This series and the channel in general has been a blessing for me in the last few months, thank you for your wonderful work! Your videos are always very entertaining and very helpful and informative for me since I want to get into composing myself, also I always discover wonderful pieces by Haydn because of you! Greetings from Austria
Brahms’ symphonies have been favorites of mine for several years, but these videos always help me hear the movements in a new way. Thanks for your work!
God, I allready loved this music very much, but these videos that make me understand the music better make my love for this music even bigger. This was just what I needed after getting my wisdom-teeth removed. Looking very much forward to your video on the finale, which contains one of my favourite moments in classical music in general: the alphorn motif.
I really appreciate your analyses. Not only do I learn specifics about the compositions. But I walk away with a deeper, richer experience of the music.
1) Final phrase is another example of what I mentioned last time: the descending melodic tonic triad "resolves" the movement back to tonic while dominant V still sounding in orchestra. 2) Thanks for highlighting the "train whistle" dissonant chords. My ear didnt quite make them out so I look forward to studying them. 3) Secret Haydn agenda, huh? 🤤 4) More detail on the rich string writing would be great!
Part of the reason classical (especially Romantic) music resonates with me so much is how it can express such a wide variety of emotions, and with so much detail; even less profound, flippant feelings like this can be laid out in music so that they are undeniable. Thanks for a great presentation.
I absolutely love your work!! I understand music well enough to enjoy at least a bit more than "just" the beauty of the music itself but you help me to enjoy the mastery of craftsmenship that went into the music as well!! Keep on the great work!
If I might add something I noticed, that orange motif in the Trio section might be a callback to the bass voice of the opening bar of the second movement. Granted, both of the cells are just falling triads (which are themselves super generic), but the way he uses it as a transition and then as a bass figure in diminution during that Trio section tells me Brahms might have made that connection deliberately.
The Trio sounds so much like Dvorak to me with the frequent modulations, high soaring melodies (although it is also a signature Brahms trait), and short repeating melodic motifs. Plus it’s got that Slavonic sound.
i come from Mozarteum to say that you are in the best hands here guys. If you are young composer focus on this kind of video , scores and maybe on wikipedia - i mean: systematize the concepts and dont let youtube mess with your fresh head. Learn an instrument, read one book of Hindemith or Schoenberg, and master basso continuo. Forget sensationalist youtubers, forget academical status, don´t pursue music university as the ultimate goal, but aesthetical excellence and artistical congruence: you are a MAKER of music. Learn to compose for media but don´t get disctracted by all the nerd stuff before you can´t do at least some pieces in the traditional way. I consider doing a portuguese version of the videos of anaylsis i want to do, my problem was always the dilema english/german/portuguese, and my kind of anaylsis need some poetry in vocabulary btw. I also learned in the music theory degree a more "spoken" aproach about music, highlighting just some key features and philosophizing over them, cause this is the way composers teach works to their students actually ( they do not break down the piece in chords or things like this!) Meanwhile there is already a lot to do to keep the bread on the table ;). All this also means that there is a lot of space for more good analysis on youtube. Most of the videos are either "sensationalist entertainment" or identification of chords on the paper, what is not analysis, but the condition of this.... The Orchestration Online channel is also a must. And again i say: actually we need more competition at THIS level. The guy there has a limitation and his taste, as every teacher; and i wish he talked more about the music as a whole, since he reads the score very good. i invite to visit my channel
I just started listening to romantic music about a year ago. It took me like 3 or 4 listens to "get" this symphony. Because of the long drawn out melodies It took several listens to hear it all. The first movement will always be my favorite. But my point was, its strange to hear tha you liked this as a child. I can't imagine having any desire to listen to this as a child. You must be a pianist...
@@darionbuck8864 Close, I am a violinist. Brahms is a very underrated composer, and this symphony is what sold me on him. 1st mvt is incredible, the opening line is such a long phrase, I love it.
@@rnhtube same the opening line leaves me speechless. You can feel the longing for...whatever. what sold me on him was actually the ending of the first expedition. The first 3 notes of the viola, then all the other instruments come crashing in. Amazing. It was the only memorable part of the symphony the first few listens. I somehow didn't even hear the opening lines as a melody.
No better time for me to listen to a beautiful piece by Brahms than now. I have been emotionally stressed out for a week as my uncle has cancer. And I think that stress caused me to make more progress with a very emotional piece of mine, a Funeral March in F Minor for solo piano. It’s good that I’ve made progress with my composition, but it’s tragic that my uncle has cancer.
Richard Atkinson Yeah. My mom is in Missouri until my uncle recovers from his cancer treatment. I’m missing her already, but at least I know that she’s there for a good cause.
Thanks for this great video...every time I listen to this movement, it reminds me of my bygone youth, when I was working on amateur orchestras. I laughed at the fact that you compared the tone clusters to old steam whistles. The return from the middle section to the recapitulation section has a somewhat tragic sound.
Would you say the light blue motif from the B section is a sort of allusion to the "fate" motif, in which we already saw an allusion to in the first movement? It seems to me that way.
As I continue to watch your terrific videos, I will not fight your Haydn conversion attempts, but.............it's going to require a mighty effort on your part :)
"Chromatic purple" sounds like some kinda super advanced harmonic concept.
excellent very clear and we want more ...... don't stop ...... thank you!
13 more to go in this series!
Thanks bud how are things
@@Richard.Atkinson how are you buddy
Thanks for quoting and promoting papa Haydn !
This series and the channel in general has been a blessing for me in the last few months, thank you for your wonderful work! Your videos are always very entertaining and very helpful and informative for me since I want to get into composing myself, also I always discover wonderful pieces by Haydn because of you!
Greetings from Austria
3 Atkinson videos in a month!!!
What’s next, a new Mahler symphony is discovered?
Awesome work as always.
About Haydn, he's by far my favourite composer, so I can only thank you for your work of "exposure" to a broader audience.
Brahms’ symphonies have been favorites of mine for several years, but these videos always help me hear the movements in a new way. Thanks for your work!
God, I allready loved this music very much, but these videos that make me understand the music better make my love for this music even bigger. This was just what I needed after getting my wisdom-teeth removed. Looking very much forward to your video on the finale, which contains one of my favourite moments in classical music in general: the alphorn motif.
Thanks for your frequent examples from Haydn. I have long been a Haydn fan but there is so much of his music that I haven't heard yet.
I really appreciate your analyses. Not only do I learn specifics about the compositions. But I walk away with a deeper, richer experience of the music.
I listened obsessively to this movement in my late-childhood 😄
Me too!
I still obsessively listen to it now lol
1) Final phrase is another example of what I mentioned last time: the descending melodic tonic triad "resolves" the movement back to tonic while dominant V still sounding in orchestra.
2) Thanks for highlighting the "train whistle" dissonant chords. My ear didnt quite make them out so I look forward to studying them.
3) Secret Haydn agenda, huh? 🤤
4) More detail on the rich string writing would be great!
Part of the reason classical (especially Romantic) music resonates with me so much is how it can express such a wide variety of emotions, and with so much detail; even less profound, flippant feelings like this can be laid out in music so that they are undeniable. Thanks for a great presentation.
what a wonderful way to start my day!
I absolutely love your work!!
I understand music well enough to enjoy at least a bit more than "just" the beauty of the music itself but you help me to enjoy the mastery of craftsmenship that went into the music as well!! Keep on the great work!
If I might add something I noticed, that orange motif in the Trio section might be a callback to the bass voice of the opening bar of the second movement. Granted, both of the cells are just falling triads (which are themselves super generic), but the way he uses it as a transition and then as a bass figure in diminution during that Trio section tells me Brahms might have made that connection deliberately.
Thanks for turning me on to Haydn's music! Before you said that, my eyes lit up from the examples. Well done.
Just great work, keep it up. Its so important to look at al the detail. Without them the hearing experiance is just not the same.
When movie discussing a movement is longer than movement itself 😍
The Trio sounds so much like Dvorak to me with the frequent modulations, high soaring melodies (although it is also a signature Brahms trait), and short repeating melodic motifs. Plus it’s got that Slavonic sound.
i come from Mozarteum to say that you are in the best hands here guys. If you are young composer focus on this kind of video , scores and maybe on wikipedia - i mean: systematize the concepts and dont let youtube mess with your fresh head. Learn an instrument, read one book of Hindemith or Schoenberg, and master basso continuo. Forget sensationalist youtubers, forget academical status, don´t pursue music university as the ultimate goal, but aesthetical excellence and artistical congruence: you are a MAKER of music. Learn to compose for media but don´t get disctracted by all the nerd stuff before you can´t do at least some pieces in the traditional way. I consider doing a portuguese version of the videos of anaylsis i want to do, my problem was always the dilema english/german/portuguese, and my kind of anaylsis need some poetry in vocabulary btw. I also learned in the music theory degree a more "spoken" aproach about music, highlighting just some key features and philosophizing over them, cause this is the way composers teach works to their students actually ( they do not break down the piece in chords or things like this!) Meanwhile there is already a lot to do to keep the bread on the table ;). All this also means that there is a lot of space for more good analysis on youtube. Most of the videos are either "sensationalist entertainment" or identification of chords on the paper, what is not analysis, but the condition of this.... The Orchestration Online channel is also a must. And again i say: actually we need more competition at THIS level. The guy there has a limitation and his taste, as every teacher; and i wish he talked more about the music as a whole, since he reads the score very good.
i invite to visit my channel
Love your channel man!
This has been my favorite symphony since I was a child. Thank you for highlighting why it is so wonderful.
I just started listening to romantic music about a year ago. It took me like 3 or 4 listens to "get" this symphony. Because of the long drawn out melodies It took several listens to hear it all. The first movement will always be my favorite. But my point was, its strange to hear tha you liked this as a child. I can't imagine having any desire to listen to this as a child. You must be a pianist...
@@darionbuck8864 Close, I am a violinist. Brahms is a very underrated composer, and this symphony is what sold me on him. 1st mvt is incredible, the opening line is such a long phrase, I love it.
@@rnhtube same the opening line leaves me speechless. You can feel the longing for...whatever. what sold me on him was actually the ending of the first expedition. The first 3 notes of the viola, then all the other instruments come crashing in. Amazing. It was the only memorable part of the symphony the first few listens. I somehow didn't even hear the opening lines as a melody.
No better time for me to listen to a beautiful piece by Brahms than now. I have been emotionally stressed out for a week as my uncle has cancer. And I think that stress caused me to make more progress with a very emotional piece of mine, a Funeral March in F Minor for solo piano. It’s good that I’ve made progress with my composition, but it’s tragic that my uncle has cancer.
Sorry to hear that!
Richard Atkinson Yeah. My mom is in Missouri until my uncle recovers from his cancer treatment. I’m missing her already, but at least I know that she’s there for a good cause.
Beauty is inspiring and overwhelming, yet we, as a society, are mired dismal pursuits.
Thank you Mr Atkinson for your insights.
Brahms sure did love them 5-bar phrases
This movement is so good
Thanks for this great video...every time I listen to this movement, it reminds me of my bygone youth, when I was working on amateur orchestras.
I laughed at the fact that you compared the tone clusters to old steam whistles.
The return from the middle section to the recapitulation section has a somewhat tragic sound.
Thank you!
Brilliant as always! Do you think 10:53 could be a callback to the opening, where the theme was also lengthened to accommodate the chromatic motif?
Would you say the light blue motif from the B section is a sort of allusion to the "fate" motif, in which we already saw an allusion to in the first movement? It seems to me that way.
15:04 Isn't that Bach's theme too?
It sure is! (transposed, of course)
@@Richard.Atkinson Yes, maybe he did it with that in mind, who knows.
Love it! Do you think the flute & oboe motive at 3:15 also comes from the first movement?
It does remind me of the "mustard" colored motive from my video on the first movement (the downward leaping one).
Bravo!!!👏👏👏👏
i see your channel, i liked. You think to make more atonal music or atonal Analysis?
Magnificent, but have you ever concidered making a video about Verdi's contrapunctal skills in his last opera Falstaff?
I really like your videos 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
the theme that appears around 12:30 is, at least for me, similar to Beethoven's ode to joy theme.
I am sure he is going to talk about it in the next video.
@@eliasmerki3845 Definitely! Stay tuned!
"Ev'ry ass can see it."
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As I continue to watch your terrific videos, I will not fight your Haydn conversion attempts, but.............it's going to require a mighty effort on your part :)
Third!!
FIRST!