I'm not sure i agree completely. I prefer my Twin power FD 4000 compared to my Certate LT 4000DC (inshore saltwater). Reeling in larger lures and fish is noticeably easier with the twin power and it feels like it has more cranking power. Also, when i squeeze the rotor on the Certate, it bends really easy. The twin power rotor is rock solid. Certate does feel a tiny bit easier to turn the handle when free spinning (my guess due to the lighter but flimsier rotor), but on the water i find the opposite. In addition the twin power drag sound is a whole lot nicer and line lay is more even, although i haven't noticed any distance differences when casting. Love both reels, so will keep them both.
@@CookingandFishing hm... The 4k I got the tail end of last season so only a half dozen outings with it, but I've put it through 2 months of chunky snook in Florida and it's been great but even my bgs are smooth that soon in. Will let you know end of this season how they hold up.
@@robertabrams91 not by a crazy amount but when you are getting into that price point you want your setups to be weighted perfectly. I have the 4k on a century 7' weapon jr and the 5k on a 7'6" weapon. Both are paired perfectly and beyond overkill price wise but....hey you only live once and even if I get skunked I have a grin on my face from whipping around setups this nice.
Tackle junkie here.. I have the 19 Daiwa Certate LT 2500CXH, 3000CHX, and 18 Exist LT 3000CXH, 4000C-D all still brand new unfished no lines. They all are extremely buttery smooth and extremely low inertia cranking. But one thing is that the 2500 size feels a tab bit clunky (still very minimal compare to other brands)when holding the rotor and tapping on the handle. I guess not all reel will be Exist Lt perfect. But Certate Lt 3000 feels tight and smooth just like the my Exist Lt's. I have brand new unused Shimano Stradic 3000's FL, Vanford, Daiwa Ballistic Lt, Ballistic Lt MQ, Pflueger Patriarch XT, and so much more reels. I still use my lower end reels to fish 2500HGCi4+ and Tatula Lt. Some people said , if you ever fish super high-end reels/rods, you'll never go back. Not true.
A few important points, the Twinpower may "feel" rigid due to the metal rotor, but its body and internal design is actually not very rigid at all, the FD only has a metal reel foot, the side plate is actually plastic, and its the plastic half that supports the internals almost like a capsule, which was a massive downgrade from the previous twinpower of which has a fully metal body still with most internals supported in the stronger reel foot. The rigidity downgrades don't stop there, they also took one of the 2 shaft supports out, the 15 and 17 XD had duel metal rods supporting the main shaft completely eliminating any internal movement, the FD however has only 1 and if you put your hand on the spool and move It from side to side you will actually feel the main shaft along with the rotor moving.... The aim I think was to make the FD the lightest and 'nicest' of the smaller twin powers yet through new design elements, and in doing so they took the opportunity to save money, the reel feels nicer and more "rigid" than what it replaced (due to the metal rotor) but in reality it is no where near as strong as the 15 TP, just something I thought you may find interesting... The Certate LT is absolutely leaps and bounds stronger and more rigid than the TP FD, put a metal rotor on the Certate LT and the thing would feel like a Swiss watch haha (though I prefer the Zaion rotor it has as it give that beautiful light rotational feel (inertia))... Just 1 more thing, I think you meant Stella FJ, not sw haha, the SW is the big fish version😉
Wow you saved me the time, money and hassle with this comment. I was tempted to sell my Vanford and get the Twin Power but alas looks like its all marketting gimick as always with Shimano
@@shore-moneyfishing1939 Yea plastic side plate in the FD and the first twinpower in decades that isn't based off the Stella, instead shimano developed a "mid tier" platform which reels from Stradic FL to 19 Vanquish are all based on, including the TP FD, where as previously the twinpowers vanquishes ect were all based directly on the Stella and the Stradic was a much cheaper build, now though the Stradic and TP are the same general platform and share many parts. Don't get me wrong, the TP FD is a great reel I have 2 and use them extensively and enjoy them, but the reality is it is just the Stradic FL with a metal rotor better tolerances and more fancy body sculpting, if you wanted to get more specific of course you could point out that it has a few more bearings a nicer sounding drag and is "assembled" in Japan (doesnt actually have much made in Japan just assembled there for a higher standard of quality control)... All in all, a great reel, but is it worth double the price of the reel its based on(Stradic FL)? Not a chance...
@@bestthingsinceslicedrice For heavier styles of fishing the TP FD is definitely better than the Vanford, its essentially like taking a Stradic FL and giving it a metal rotor better quality control slightly higher level of refinement and much better tolerances and comparing it with the Vanford for an idea, for finesse fishing though the Vanford is still the better option.
I own the daiwa certate 3000 and was wondering if the 4000 size spool is interchangeable. If it is, I'm thinking about buying a spare 4000 spool for my certate 3000.
Very good point with the increased smoothness. I've got the 5000xh certate lt and it is awesome. People get carried away with how smooth shimanos reels feel when Daiwa is stronger and better made.
I've planned to get the 14000XH SW 2021 Certe. I hope it is worth the investment especially with the abuse and saltwater. Used to be a Shimano fan but I constantly keep having issue with the line roller bearing. Tried the Daiwa Saltist one and never look back into Shimano again.
Yeah that new SW Certate is definitely interesting, I wonder how much overlap it will have with the Saltigas...I mean a full aluminum monocoque body in those sizes should stand up to some serious abuse. Just remember don't oil magsealed line rollers, but do rinse them in freshwater after a salty session!
You will love the 14 000 mate..I have used it for 1yr now without servicing in harsh salt water conditions in Australia catching everything from 30lb GT'S to all sorts of reef fish that weigh anything from 1lb to 40lb. If you rig right and know how to play a fish this reel has you covered in spades for most fights. No I don't work for Shimano....I actually have 2 big spinning Shimano reels the 18000 and 14000 but I keep picking up my Daiwa certate 14 000 reel and my GT 5 PE Rod most times.
Hi, I believe that Daiwa Caldia is probably exactly the same as the Daiwa Ballistic EX aside from the color schemes and spool design. I've been trying to find out if anyone knows if the 2500 and 3000 size share the same body besides the spool and handle? I know that the newer Ballistic does, but I am unsure for this older models. Yes, my Ballistic 3000EX is feeling geary too. This older digigear doesn't last long like the newer tough digigears. Thanks for the great review!
Little late to the party but you said your Daiwa Certate "died" shortly after this review. Can you elaborate on what happened because I was looking very hard at the Certates for my next higher tier reel.
From owning a Daiwa Bg to the Stradic FL then going to the Vanford and now Daiwa Certate LT. In my opinion, save yourself the hassle and spend extra money to buy the Daiwa Certate LT. This reel is on a whole different level, plus dont fall for Shimano's marketting gimick like the X-Protect and the Long stroke spool. Dont get me wrong. I am no fanboy of any brand but based on my experience, I accidentally dunked my Stradic FL and saltwater came inside even tho it was only for a few seconds, so the x-protect feature to me felt like it was worthles. Then as for the Long Stroke Spool that Shimano claims that allows you to have longer casting distance. Well when I casted the Certate LT side by side against my Vanford. The Certate casted further compared to my Vanford and best of all, the Certate is way smoother and had no reeling sound compared to the Vanford. So by the end of the day. To me the Daiwa Certate maybe more expensive but its a one time buy.
I have the new Twin Power Xd and compared to the Certate LT. The Daiwa Certate LT was smoother, has lower start up inertia and i find it more refined when I fished it side by side against the new Twin Power Xd. The only redeeming feature I see that the Twin Power has against the Certate LT is that its simple to maintain.
I was debating about getting these same 3 Shimano reels myself too (Stradic FL, Vanford, Twin Power FD) and will stick with Daiwa based on your comments here as, I too believe any of the newer Daiwa Monocoque Reels are better, stronger, and smoother as I will pick up a Certate 4000D-C soon but for the molment I just picked up a Daiwa BG MQ 3000 for light Inshore/Surf and this (Large Zinc Geared) Reel is pretty ridiculously smooth out of the box and feels Rock Solid although it is heavier than a Certate LT4000D-C I will give it a shot for Light Inshore/Surf
@@joed2497 the Stradic FL is good value for the money so if I can do it all over again, i would have never sold my Stradic to get the new Twin Power Xd. The Daiwa BG Mq is also a good reel since it is sealed plus you dont have to worry about getting the original Magseal oil if you want to service your reel. The only downside to the BG Mq is that you need to order the side plate tool so you can open the reel. But that tool can also be used on the Certate LT & the Luvias
@@bestthingsinceslicedrice Yeah I will try it out soon and I also have a JDM Luvias (LT3000-C) (Low Gear) Model I am planning to use too... I was looking at one of your older fluke Fishing videos from 2020 (SR Inlet Fishing, NJ) and I see that you were using a, Ballistic 4000D-C setup that day and those reels have always been good Light Inshore Reels too...Good Stuff that you guys put out here as I have subscribe to your Channel here!....Tight Lines Buddy!
i was thinking of doing some c&r spring togging. i know it can be tricky from shore depending on the weather from the previous months. what water temps should i look for?
Actually you're better off getting a Shimano if you're fishing saltwater, esp from beaches...this reel died shortly after this "review" lol...I'll have a video addressing Daiwa vs Shimano soon.
@@FishingWithJimbo Nah just get the new Stella - rinse it after a trip, if anything feels wrong send it in with platinum service. You'll be MUCH happier with any Shimano even a Stradic/Vanford than a clunky VR50.
I’m thinking of getting the certate 19. Now i’m using twinpower XD 2021. Can you give a review between these 2 reels? I don’t care about the maintenance. If its hard to get the mag oil and tools to open the body just send it for service. I’m only looking for smoothness and long term used.
Very good video. You explain everything in detail and show close ups. You're a good speaker. Thumbs up. What country do you live? These are all foreign to u.s. market
USA but I no longer recommend the Certate for saltwater use. Still best in class/value for freshwater but...magsealed Daiwas just don't hold up in the salt. Shimano does a better job with their labyrinth "seal" imo.
Hey that caldia 2500, what is the exact model and year is that one. I'm liking that one. It won't be used for saltwater, I'd like to find that exact one I need to know max drag and line capacity. Thanx
Depends what you mean by "UL" fishing - 4-6lb fluoro I would probably go with Vanquish, that is Shimano's high end "ultralight" reel...but, I would expect a revamp on the Vanquish this year or next, so maybe you want to wait for the new models. But if physical weight of the reel isn't an issue, the Certate has the smoothest drag I've ever experienced, and that is important for UL fishing and light lines. The Luvias Airity is probably the direct competitor to the Vanquish, and a better value before the new Vanquish comes out anyway. I don't think you can go wrong with Certate, Vanquish, Luvias Airity for any freshwater fishing.
@@CookingandFishing Thank you so much. I hate the looks of vanquish. I really love Certate one though. I might choose that one. Also I use braid for UL fishing. Thin one ofc
I don't have one in front of me but they should be similar size - Daiwa revamped their sizing to more "industry standard" (read - similar to shimano lol) with the LT lineup.
@@CookingandFishing 4000 daiwa will be around the range of a C5000 Shimano, the c5000 sustain had actually less line capacity than the 4000 ballistic mq i just purchased.
daiwa's reels all run about 1 size larger than anyone elses, 3000 has a capacity of a 4000 penn or shimano, 2500 is more like a 3000. they made the reels a bit smaller, but the spool capacity is typically a half size to a size larger.
@@marcussturgeon7151 There's more nuance to it since the C shimanos are usually 1 spool size up on the same body, and then you have the non-compact MHG models which is a size down in spool ie 3000mhg is a 4k body with a 3k spool, not to mention all the shallow spool models you find in the JDM sphere. Also consider gear size - Daiwa monocoque bodies will squeeze in a significantly larger gear set than its Shimano counterpart. With braid and inshore/freshwater fishing I don't care much about line capacity on these small spinning reels. Weight and spool dia as it corresponds to your guide train and rod balance matters a lot more to me than line cap.
How many of you Daiwa fans have actually inspected the mag fluid after a season or 2 of fishing? I did and it was gone, just a black smudge was left. Fun fact you can’t buy this unobtainium mag oil from Daiwa to replace it.
That's a good point - my Exist obviously has the lifetime service plan and every other year it's getting sent in...will probably do the same with the Certate and Luvias Airity but it does preclude self servicing for the vast majority of people. Nick (tackleadvisors) purchased the correct ferrofluid but very few people are going to mess with replacing magseals on their own. I'm fishing mostly freshwater these days but if I were still 3-4x a week in salt magseal would be more of an issue for sure. Btw which reel do you have and how does it perform when the ferrofluid runs dry?
I had certates and caldias, they feel no different when oil is gone. Annoying when you pay for the technology to seal the reel but it does nothing after a certain time. Daiwa and Shimano are great products but they are both guilty of promoting gimmicks in my opinion.
Lol too bad there really isn't a 3rd option unless you go full blown surf reel...and for this kind of fishing completely unnecessary. I do like Shimano's labyrinth method for keeping water out, at least there's nothing to dry/wear out there. I'll send my exist/certate/airities out end of this season we'll see what the damage is!
I guy here in Guam can service the MQ's and magsealed Daiwa's. He finally got the proper tools to open up the MQ's and has a source for the magsealed oil.
I have the Stradic FL 3k and 5k. Fine spinning reels. But totally agree with you on the Certate. That will be my next upgrade. The design overall looks really good. Can’t wait till fluke season opens.
Hey buddy there is only one screw on the body of the certate lt and it is positioned on the top of the body, the problem is that if salt water gets in the hole there is no where for it to drip out, if the screw get corroded it will be hard to open for service. Daiwa should have put that screw under the reel so water can drip out or put a cap to block that hole
@@liveyakfish5730 Traditionally people say to get high ratio for jigging/bottom contact since you're using the rod to impart action and reel to pick up slack (and quickly for a faster hookset), but the downside is quicker gear wear. Slower ratios will stay smoother longer, and we find 5:1 spinning reels more than fast enough to pick up slack. The other reason is slower ratios are much more versatile if you ever use it for moving presentations like counting down a swimbait or bucktail and swimming it horizontally - much easier to keep a slow steady wind with a lower gear ratio reel.
Magseal thing is more gimmik than any badly needed future , long lived reels water protection without this magseal thing deep service is a night mare for individuals,, locomotive osc, less casting n no overall torque support with that bigger main gear , shimano tends to be more durable in the long run, when whipping the sea 8 to 10 hrs surf casting , that’s alone too much for any reel to stand ,i have shimano from stella downward , never let me down n i’m real tough on my gears, yet i’ll take the risk for this certate lt, i used to have bg rr not long ago used for three trips and gave it to a friend , good reel but not in bar with stradic fl nor less, wind knots nightmare , less castibility ( locomotive just can’t beat worm gear) , i feel i’m doing wrong with this purchase but the design caught me badly ,
I wonder what is your opinion after using Certate (If you got it ) ? I'm also more of the Shimano fan, but this 3000 Certate seems to be as powerful as shimano twin 4000 yet a bit lighter
Waiting for my certate 2600xh to arrive...expectations are high given my shimano FL has gone thru service with all bearings changed and holly molly it is so much smoother than I remembered and yes I really hope the certate hype is real.
I like the worm gear oscillation with better line lay and I like the feel of it as you wind it. Its not as smooth but just feel more direct connection with lures. I like daiwas line roller better. the shimanos line rollor some time the line rolls up higher then it should be in that small groove. Daiwas got more of an edge were the line runs and its better.I line shimanos bail wire better to.Daiwas drag kick ass amazing smooth.
My Penn Fierce 3 and slammer has better line lay then my certate lt.The certate hasn't caught any massive fish and I've used it for 50 hours of casting catching small trout and its not as nice to wined now as it was new.
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I'm not sure i agree completely. I prefer my Twin power FD 4000 compared to my Certate LT 4000DC (inshore saltwater). Reeling in larger lures and fish is noticeably easier with the twin power and it feels like it has more cranking power. Also, when i squeeze the rotor on the Certate, it bends really easy. The twin power rotor is rock solid. Certate does feel a tiny bit easier to turn the handle when free spinning (my guess due to the lighter but flimsier rotor), but on the water i find the opposite. In addition the twin power drag sound is a whole lot nicer and line lay is more even, although i haven't noticed any distance differences when casting. Love both reels, so will keep them both.
Looking forward to using my certate!
Yea buddy
I have a 4 and 5 and absolutely love both.
How long have you had yours? Are they still as smooth as NIB?
@@CookingandFishing hm... The 4k I got the tail end of last season so only a half dozen outings with it, but I've put it through 2 months of chunky snook in Florida and it's been great but even my bgs are smooth that soon in. Will let you know end of this season how they hold up.
@@fishnewhere387 Excellent - that's the kind of hard use testing we need to hear about!
Is the 4 much smaller then the 5?
@@robertabrams91 not by a crazy amount but when you are getting into that price point you want your setups to be weighted perfectly. I have the 4k on a century 7' weapon jr and the 5k on a 7'6" weapon. Both are paired perfectly and beyond overkill price wise but....hey you only live once and even if I get skunked I have a grin on my face from whipping around setups this nice.
Tackle junkie here.. I have the 19 Daiwa Certate LT 2500CXH, 3000CHX, and 18 Exist LT 3000CXH, 4000C-D all still brand new unfished no lines. They all are extremely buttery smooth and extremely low inertia cranking. But one thing is that the 2500 size feels a tab bit clunky (still very minimal compare to other brands)when holding the rotor and tapping on the handle. I guess not all reel will be Exist Lt perfect. But Certate Lt 3000 feels tight and smooth just like the my Exist Lt's. I have brand new unused Shimano Stradic 3000's FL, Vanford, Daiwa Ballistic Lt, Ballistic Lt MQ, Pflueger Patriarch XT, and so much more reels. I still use my lower end reels to fish 2500HGCi4+ and Tatula Lt. Some people said , if you ever fish super high-end reels/rods, you'll never go back. Not true.
A few important points, the Twinpower may "feel" rigid due to the metal rotor, but its body and internal design is actually not very rigid at all, the FD only has a metal reel foot, the side plate is actually plastic, and its the plastic half that supports the internals almost like a capsule, which was a massive downgrade from the previous twinpower of which has a fully metal body still with most internals supported in the stronger reel foot. The rigidity downgrades don't stop there, they also took one of the 2 shaft supports out, the 15 and 17 XD had duel metal rods supporting the main shaft completely eliminating any internal movement, the FD however has only 1 and if you put your hand on the spool and move It from side to side you will actually feel the main shaft along with the rotor moving.... The aim I think was to make the FD the lightest and 'nicest' of the smaller twin powers yet through new design elements, and in doing so they took the opportunity to save money, the reel feels nicer and more "rigid" than what it replaced (due to the metal rotor) but in reality it is no where near as strong as the 15 TP, just something I thought you may find interesting... The Certate LT is absolutely leaps and bounds stronger and more rigid than the TP FD, put a metal rotor on the Certate LT and the thing would feel like a Swiss watch haha (though I prefer the Zaion rotor it has as it give that beautiful light rotational feel (inertia))... Just 1 more thing, I think you meant Stella FJ, not sw haha, the SW is the big fish version😉
Plastic on the TP? Sheesh. Might as well return it now.
Good info, my prediction is after a season or two the TP will not feel nearly NIB while the Certate will keep ticking along
Wow you saved me the time, money and hassle with this comment.
I was tempted to sell my Vanford and get the Twin Power but alas looks like its all marketting gimick as always with Shimano
@@shore-moneyfishing1939 Yea plastic side plate in the FD and the first twinpower in decades that isn't based off the Stella, instead shimano developed a "mid tier" platform which reels from Stradic FL to 19 Vanquish are all based on, including the TP FD, where as previously the twinpowers vanquishes ect were all based directly on the Stella and the Stradic was a much cheaper build, now though the Stradic and TP are the same general platform and share many parts. Don't get me wrong, the TP FD is a great reel I have 2 and use them extensively and enjoy them, but the reality is it is just the Stradic FL with a metal rotor better tolerances and more fancy body sculpting, if you wanted to get more specific of course you could point out that it has a few more bearings a nicer sounding drag and is "assembled" in Japan (doesnt actually have much made in Japan just assembled there for a higher standard of quality control)... All in all, a great reel, but is it worth double the price of the reel its based on(Stradic FL)? Not a chance...
@@bestthingsinceslicedrice For heavier styles of fishing the TP FD is definitely better than the Vanford, its essentially like taking a Stradic FL and giving it a metal rotor better quality control slightly higher level of refinement and much better tolerances and comparing it with the Vanford for an idea, for finesse fishing though the Vanford is still the better option.
I own the daiwa certate 3000 and was wondering if the 4000 size spool is interchangeable. If it is, I'm thinking about buying a spare 4000 spool for my certate 3000.
Very good point with the increased smoothness. I've got the 5000xh certate lt and it is awesome. People get carried away with how smooth shimanos reels feel when Daiwa is stronger and better made.
No doubt. Out of the box smoothness (Shimano) vs Longterm refinement of the Certate.
I've planned to get the 14000XH SW 2021 Certe. I hope it is worth the investment especially with the abuse and saltwater. Used to be a Shimano fan but I constantly keep having issue with the line roller bearing. Tried the Daiwa Saltist one and never look back into Shimano again.
Yeah that new SW Certate is definitely interesting, I wonder how much overlap it will have with the Saltigas...I mean a full aluminum monocoque body in those sizes should stand up to some serious abuse. Just remember don't oil magsealed line rollers, but do rinse them in freshwater after a salty session!
Similar experience with the brands. Shimano makes a decent product but for the price I like my Daiwa's better
I just got the 8k certate sw today it's very similar to a saltiga.
You will love the 14 000 mate..I have used it for 1yr now without servicing in harsh salt water conditions in Australia catching everything from 30lb GT'S to all sorts of reef fish that weigh anything from 1lb to 40lb.
If you rig right and know how to play a fish this reel has you covered in spades for most fights.
No I don't work for Shimano....I actually have 2 big spinning Shimano reels the 18000 and 14000 but I keep picking up my Daiwa certate 14 000 reel and my GT 5 PE Rod most times.
@@easyaussietarget3355 how have you had one for a year when they've only been out for 6 weeks or so?
Hi, I believe that Daiwa Caldia is probably exactly the same as the Daiwa Ballistic EX aside from the color schemes and spool design. I've been trying to find out if anyone knows if the 2500 and 3000 size share the same body besides the spool and handle? I know that the newer Ballistic does, but I am unsure for this older models. Yes, my Ballistic 3000EX is feeling geary too. This older digigear doesn't last long like the newer tough digigears. Thanks for the great review!
Little late to the party but you said your Daiwa Certate "died" shortly after this review. Can you elaborate on what happened because I was looking very hard at the Certates for my next higher tier reel.
Season 1 - fine. Season 2 - coffee grinder. Check out the Vanquish/Stella review on my channel - I go into more detail there.
nice review
From owning a Daiwa Bg to the Stradic FL then going to the Vanford and now Daiwa Certate LT.
In my opinion, save yourself the hassle and spend extra money to buy the Daiwa Certate LT.
This reel is on a whole different level, plus dont fall for Shimano's marketting gimick like the X-Protect and the Long stroke spool.
Dont get me wrong. I am no fanboy of any brand but based on my experience, I accidentally dunked my Stradic FL and saltwater came inside even tho it was only for a few seconds, so the x-protect feature to me felt like it was worthles. Then as for the Long Stroke Spool that Shimano claims that allows you to have longer casting distance. Well when I casted the Certate LT side by side against my Vanford.
The Certate casted further compared to my Vanford and best of all, the Certate is way smoother and had no reeling sound compared to the Vanford.
So by the end of the day. To me the Daiwa Certate maybe more expensive but its a one time buy.
Defly. No point buying two Stradics when you can get the Certate.
I have the new Twin Power Xd and compared to the Certate LT.
The Daiwa Certate LT was smoother, has lower start up inertia and i find it more refined when I fished it side by side against the new Twin Power Xd.
The only redeeming feature I see that the Twin Power has against the Certate LT is that its simple to maintain.
I was debating about getting these same 3 Shimano reels myself too (Stradic FL, Vanford, Twin Power FD) and will stick with Daiwa based on your comments here as, I too believe any of the newer Daiwa Monocoque Reels are better, stronger, and smoother as I will pick up a Certate 4000D-C soon but for the molment I just picked up a Daiwa BG MQ 3000 for light Inshore/Surf and this (Large Zinc Geared) Reel is pretty ridiculously smooth out of the box and feels Rock Solid although it is heavier than a Certate LT4000D-C I will give it a shot for Light Inshore/Surf
@@joed2497 the Stradic FL is good value for the money so if I can do it all over again, i would have never sold my Stradic to get the new Twin Power Xd.
The Daiwa BG Mq is also a good reel since it is sealed plus you dont have to worry about getting the original Magseal oil if you want to service your reel.
The only downside to the BG Mq is that you need to order the side plate tool so you can open the reel. But that tool can also be used on the Certate LT & the Luvias
@@bestthingsinceslicedrice Yeah I will try it out soon and I also have a JDM Luvias (LT3000-C) (Low Gear) Model I am planning to use too... I was looking at one of your older fluke Fishing videos from 2020 (SR Inlet Fishing, NJ) and I see that you were using a, Ballistic 4000D-C setup that day and those reels have always been good Light Inshore Reels too...Good Stuff that you guys put out here as I have subscribe to your Channel here!....Tight Lines Buddy!
i was thinking of doing some c&r spring togging. i know it can be tricky from shore depending on the weather from the previous months. what water temps should i look for?
Never targeted them in Spring (spawning season), no idea where/when/how. Certate is probably best in class tog spinner tho :)
You use Certe on tog? I heard Tog can damage a lot of gear inside the reel.
Great review!
Gonna get this model 🤙
What braid you have spoiled on it? Love the purple
Actually you're better off getting a Shimano if you're fishing saltwater, esp from beaches...this reel died shortly after this "review" lol...I'll have a video addressing Daiwa vs Shimano soon.
@@CookingandFishing good to know! Thanks for letting me know 😂 thinking of getting a vr50 just to be safe HAHAHHA
@@FishingWithJimbo Nah just get the new Stella - rinse it after a trip, if anything feels wrong send it in with platinum service. You'll be MUCH happier with any Shimano even a Stradic/Vanford than a clunky VR50.
and btw the braid is YGK Upgrade X8 in PE1 (22lb). Best braid on the market imo.
@@CookingandFishing I have a Stradic and a Vanford but I may just get another Stradic 😂 thanks bro!
I’m thinking of getting the certate 19. Now i’m using twinpower XD 2021. Can you give a review between these 2 reels? I don’t care about the maintenance. If its hard to get the mag oil and tools to open the body just send it for service. I’m only looking for smoothness and long term used.
Get the Certate lol
Very good video. You explain everything in detail and show close ups. You're a good speaker. Thumbs up. What country do you live? These are all foreign to u.s. market
USA but I no longer recommend the Certate for saltwater use. Still best in class/value for freshwater but...magsealed Daiwas just don't hold up in the salt. Shimano does a better job with their labyrinth "seal" imo.
I'm debating on a sargosa 8000 or a twin power 8000 or a daiwa maverick, for bigvriver stripers. Fresh water only
@@stripervince1 A bit out of my wheelhouse but I know the Gosa is considered excellent value among the surf striper guys up here.
Hey that caldia 2500, what is the exact model and year is that one. I'm liking that one. It won't be used for saltwater, I'd like to find that exact one I need to know max drag and line capacity. Thanx
What lure/sinker weights are you using with these 3000 and 400 Certates?
1/4 - 1/2oz.
What about the Daiwa TD sol 2500 D
I had the original Sol it was an amazing reel, no clue re the new one looks like an orange Tatula lol
Which one is better for UL fishing. Shimano Vanquish or Certate? I am really not sure which one to get
Depends what you mean by "UL" fishing - 4-6lb fluoro I would probably go with Vanquish, that is Shimano's high end "ultralight" reel...but, I would expect a revamp on the Vanquish this year or next, so maybe you want to wait for the new models. But if physical weight of the reel isn't an issue, the Certate has the smoothest drag I've ever experienced, and that is important for UL fishing and light lines. The Luvias Airity is probably the direct competitor to the Vanquish, and a better value before the new Vanquish comes out anyway. I don't think you can go wrong with Certate, Vanquish, Luvias Airity for any freshwater fishing.
@@CookingandFishing Thank you so much. I hate the looks of vanquish. I really love Certate one though. I might choose that one. Also I use braid for UL fishing. Thin one ofc
Is the 4000 size bigger then the Stradic FL 4000?
I don't have one in front of me but they should be similar size - Daiwa revamped their sizing to more "industry standard" (read - similar to shimano lol) with the LT lineup.
@@CookingandFishing 4000 daiwa will be around the range of a C5000 Shimano, the c5000 sustain had actually less line capacity than the 4000 ballistic mq i just purchased.
daiwa's reels all run about 1 size larger than anyone elses, 3000 has a capacity of a 4000 penn or shimano, 2500 is more like a 3000. they made the reels a bit smaller, but the spool capacity is typically a half size to a size larger.
@@marcussturgeon7151 There's more nuance to it since the C shimanos are usually 1 spool size up on the same body, and then you have the non-compact MHG models which is a size down in spool ie 3000mhg is a 4k body with a 3k spool, not to mention all the shallow spool models you find in the JDM sphere. Also consider gear size - Daiwa monocoque bodies will squeeze in a significantly larger gear set than its Shimano counterpart. With braid and inshore/freshwater fishing I don't care much about line capacity on these small spinning reels. Weight and spool dia as it corresponds to your guide train and rod balance matters a lot more to me than line cap.
That's really informative mate. I almost bought a Twin Power today then just hold it for a certate. :)
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How many of you Daiwa fans have actually inspected the mag fluid after a season or 2 of fishing?
I did and it was gone, just a black smudge was left. Fun fact you can’t buy this unobtainium mag oil from Daiwa to replace it.
That's a good point - my Exist obviously has the lifetime service plan and every other year it's getting sent in...will probably do the same with the Certate and Luvias Airity but it does preclude self servicing for the vast majority of people. Nick (tackleadvisors) purchased the correct ferrofluid but very few people are going to mess with replacing magseals on their own. I'm fishing mostly freshwater these days but if I were still 3-4x a week in salt magseal would be more of an issue for sure.
Btw which reel do you have and how does it perform when the ferrofluid runs dry?
I had certates and caldias, they feel no different when oil is gone. Annoying when you pay for the technology to seal the reel but it does nothing after a certain time. Daiwa and Shimano are great products but they are both guilty of promoting gimmicks in my opinion.
Lol too bad there really isn't a 3rd option unless you go full blown surf reel...and for this kind of fishing completely unnecessary. I do like Shimano's labyrinth method for keeping water out, at least there's nothing to dry/wear out there. I'll send my exist/certate/airities out end of this season we'll see what the damage is!
I guy here in Guam can service the MQ's and magsealed Daiwa's. He finally got the proper tools to open up the MQ's and has a source for the magsealed oil.
Great reel. Get a Van staal if you want to spend big bucks for serious surf fishing
I have the Stradic FL 3k and 5k. Fine spinning reels. But totally agree with you on the Certate. That will be my next upgrade. The design overall looks really good. Can’t wait till fluke season opens.
For sure. Certate is on another level and after a season of heavy use, it's even SMOOTHER.
Hey buddy there is only one screw on the body of the certate lt and it is positioned on the top of the body, the problem is that if salt water gets in the hole there is no where for it to drip out, if the screw get corroded it will be hard to open for service. Daiwa should have put that screw under the reel so water can drip out or put a cap to block that hole
i believe the inside of certate is aluminium which is better than materials of stella in terms of salt water corrosion resistance
Certate's are sold in the US.
Not in the gear ratios we prefer, unfortunately.
@@CookingandFishing what gear ratio do you recommend for jigging plastics?
@@liveyakfish5730 Traditionally people say to get high ratio for jigging/bottom contact since you're using the rod to impart action and reel to pick up slack (and quickly for a faster hookset), but the downside is quicker gear wear. Slower ratios will stay smoother longer, and we find 5:1 spinning reels more than fast enough to pick up slack. The other reason is slower ratios are much more versatile if you ever use it for moving presentations like counting down a swimbait or bucktail and swimming it horizontally - much easier to keep a slow steady wind with a lower gear ratio reel.
Ive owned Stella's exist and certates
Best ever was a 3000 certate. Cant wait for the new luvius though
Magseal thing is more gimmik than any badly needed future , long lived reels water protection without this magseal thing deep service is a night mare for individuals,, locomotive osc, less casting n no overall torque support with that bigger main gear , shimano tends to be more durable in the long run, when whipping the sea 8 to 10 hrs surf casting , that’s alone too much for any reel to stand ,i have shimano from stella downward , never let me down n i’m real tough on my gears, yet i’ll take the risk for this certate lt, i used to have bg rr not long ago used for three trips and gave it to a friend , good reel but not in bar with stradic fl nor less, wind knots nightmare , less castibility ( locomotive just can’t beat worm gear) , i feel i’m doing wrong with this purchase but the design caught me badly ,
I wonder what is your opinion after using Certate (If you got it ) ? I'm also more of the Shimano fan, but this 3000 Certate seems to be as powerful as shimano twin 4000 yet a bit lighter
I like the aluminium body better then zaion or ci4+ dont like mag seal, the line rollers easy to keep clean
I don't like the magseal line roller either, it doesn't rotate as freely when I'm using very light presentations.
Very good reel..but be carefull...easily water come in to reel..
Waiting for my certate 2600xh to arrive...expectations are high given my shimano FL has gone thru service with all bearings changed and holly molly it is so much smoother than I remembered and yes I really hope the certate hype is real.
If it's less refined than your stradic return it lol
I like my stradic FL better then my certate lt.
That doesn't give us much - in what way?
I like the worm gear oscillation with better line lay and I like the feel of it as you wind it. Its not as smooth but just feel more direct connection with lures. I like daiwas line roller better. the shimanos line rollor some time the line rolls up higher then it should be in that small groove. Daiwas got more of an edge were the line runs and its better.I line shimanos bail wire better to.Daiwas drag kick ass amazing smooth.
Line lay is the only thing Shimano has over Daiwa now, and it's much closer than before.
@@hownowbrowntrouttasmania7389 for sea fishing 10 kg fish there is no comparison. Certate is wildly superior
My Penn Fierce 3 and slammer has better line lay then my certate lt.The certate hasn't caught any massive fish and I've used it for 50 hours of casting catching small trout and its not as nice to wined now as it was new.
Can't tell the difference when a fish is on no rell is worth that much don't buy them and they will get cheaper ha
Sure you can - the drag, the torque, everything feels better on a better reel.
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Overpriced