Ong teng cheong is an excellent president. He nominated him although he didn't vote for him. He is impartial, and does not take things personally. I am glad he was the president. The contributions he made to the reserves are what makes it so successful today.
Agree. It is important for the person on how firm and unconstrained-minded they are when performing their constitutional duties protecting the interest of Singapore and Singaporeans.
Good to see the IMO very smart Mr Walter Woon again, clearing things up for us in a PE that has gone a bit messy, veering towards a GE. Interestingly, the candidates we have now seem to want the job. Mr Woon should consider running for the Presidency one day.
Well, everyone who stands surely have to say they want to be - otherwise it will be silly right? The differentiating factor is, for what reason... for ego, for public service, out of a sense of necessity for greater good, for prove one is rich, for whatever...I think from their speeches you can tell who's who.
There is advice that civil servants should be impartial politically. But I do not know of any law to Enforce this with a punishment to civil servants found to be helping ruling party win elections by being biased to support the ruling party. If you aware such enforcement laws, do let me know. I suggest a serious punishment be raised by opposition. I quote state media ST in 2016 : Quote : Civil servants not independent of elected Government, but they should be politically impartial: PM Lee End Quote This is public info on ST online. 2016 Further Quote: However, "civil servants should be politically impartial", he added. "They should not be campaigning for or against a political party. They must not misuse state resources or powers for partisan political purposes, but neither should they shy away from carrying out their duties without fear or favour when a matter might prove to be politically controversial."
He qualifies by virtue of him having been the Attorney-General for 3 years from 2008 to 2010 (see Constituttion of Singapore art 19(3)(a)) @@azreyevans1843
There is advice that civil servants should be impartial politically. But I do not know of any law to Enforce this with a punishment to civil servants found to be helping ruling party win elections by being biased to support the ruling party. If you aware such enforcement laws, do let me know. I suggest a serious punishment be raised by opposition. I quote state media ST in 2016 : Quote : Civil servants not independent of elected Government, but they should be politically impartial: PM Lee End Quote This is public info on ST online. 2016 Further Quote: However, "civil servants should be politically impartial", he added. "They should not be campaigning for or against a political party. They must not misuse state resources or powers for partisan political purposes, but neither should they shy away from carrying out their duties without fear or favour when a matter might prove to be politically controversial."
Similar to an independent director who relinquish his executive directorship can be independent and will be valuable to shareholder because he/she know the operation of the company. That put him /her in a better position in the board comparing to external independent director.
Dear Mr Woon, with your capability and was ever the Attorney-General of Sg, you are much qualify for the role too. Hopefully you will consider to stand to run in the next PE.
Thank you Mr. Walter Woon.. i understand now..good luck Singaporeans voting for your new Head of State.. may Allah ease the process.. may the choices you made, would leave remarkable impacts later on..
But I am curious, why don’t also have a time limitation of when they must resign to when they can contest of at least 1-1.5 years. So that the independence will not be questioned. A president candidate that runs uncontested sorta defeats the purpose of being an elected president no?
Has it crossed your mind that those from the public service could have been instructed to come forward? No one wants this job, as they're already well to do before that, except for the last one, who has a huge pay increase, more like triple.
I first qualify that I m in support of the EP, and the process. But Walter, since you were involved in the drafting of the EP, why is there still a way for the government of the day to overrule the President’s veto by gaining a 2/3 majority in parliament. With today’s scenario, where there is a supermajority, the government can easily achieve this by exercising the whip.
@@JohnLee-gt3sr We might as well be a single-party state, ruled perpetually by the incumbent, like China (or North Korea), if that's what you're worried about. You can count yourself lucky that the incumbent hasn't yet gone rampant thus far, or you'll beg for viable opposition to stand up to the tyranny. By then, it'd be too late, and would most definitely require armed struggle to unseat them from power.
After listening, i am not sure how to select these 3 candidates as i feel that they are not qualified based on what they said in the public and interviews esp TKL
You saying he spent 30 years at NTUC speaking about girls and toilets and grew the co-operative 600 times its size? I wouldn't mind if he can multi-task and yet keep the extra-ordinary productivity.
@@Sentinel-911 TKL was an egotistical, pompous a**hole wen he was heading INCOME. Behaved as if INCOME belonged to him. Talks down to his staff, prob bcos he tot he had superior intellect.
Oh wow MR Walter I would sure vote for you as a president..! Very well and clearly explained. It also clearly shows that Tharman is not suitable… as he has shown by leaving an MP post to come run for president. If what you say about our reserve is true … than the only reason why the ruling party want to have their own people is to cover up the profits they made during covid. Remember Singapore was heavily invested in the vaccine…. So if the made a windfall profit and are still increasing the GST and other tax etc it shows how deep their greed is…!!!
Tharman is young. After President, Tharman cannot take other jobs… He should run some big global project first, maybe climate change and ESG. Then come back next round and be President. No rush. Even if Kok Song win, he can run next round.
I think all the TKL supporters need to watch this video. They seem unaware of the detailed information and explanation shared by this gentleman (whom I must say, impressed me).
Fair enough 6 years for a president, then why the constitution changed for all elections campaigning to be only at best 9 days and u expect ppl to make a decision for 6 years?
In democratic system, people mandate decides the power. Elect President has people direct mandate, nobody (including PM) has this mandate. Its a joke Role of President need to be dictate by people without pple mandate
I like his remarks about nepotism..giving position to relatives, relative and friends...that's what the president is suppose to prevent. That's an excellent point. Now, look around.
You guys politicised the post of president by making it an elected presidency and you expect the post to be politically neutral. Trying to round the square peg eh? 😂
The fact is that nobody can be non-political. Everybody has views and opinions aligning with a certain political faction. The political scene in Singapore has been badly polarized so the underlying intentions of the voting population makes the concept of a non-partisan presidency a non-starter. Just look at the 3 candidates and the people supporting them. Opposition politicians aren't sophisticated enough to have differing views on the use of the reserve which does not involve a social agenda. It's their only promise to the people. To raid the reserve for political capital. To "Huat" or so to speak. Something the opposition parties have been using as their rallying call for a long time. If the President is open to using the reserves for social spending then it is on the opposition side. Otherwise it is on the PAP's side. The people are simply not interested in the other ways the President can wield his powers. If they were, I'd be far less worried. To Huat, or not to Huat, that is the question.
How can he blame Mr Ong Teng Cheong for being too independent. Obviously he is very PAP or for the current government. Now, he unconsciously or or consciously telling people don't go for those who professed to be independent. He may land up like OTC. Walter Woon is well know to be very Pro PAP.
So Walter Woon thinks that The President should be independent and not some related to the Govt. directly or indirectly. So, is he confirming that TKL is most unrelated?
This guy has no credibility, Tharman was endorsed by PAP, a political party with supporting resources. So does Tony Tan. Where was he? Keeping his mouth shut then, y comment now?
@@deschan2246 I kept hearing people say Tharman endorsed by PAP, and supported by them with resources. Where id they hear that, or do they have evidence, announcement, statements? Or these are just imagination because they really hated PAP so much?
Nope, he's clearly aware dat TKL is beholden to the Opposition. Just look at Lim Tean. He has a current court case agt him going on, n he told the judge he needs extra time to find a defence lawyer bcos he was too busy CAMPAIGNING for TKL!
Isn't it funny? Cannot be a member of a Political Party "On the date of his/her nomination". AKA independent of the mind On the date of his nomination?. Where on earth would you find such "loose" clause in the commercial world? Can we interpret that after the date of his/her nomination, he can return back to his PAP Political Party and PAP mindset? It is "absolutely Essential" for Singaporeans to Restore the Independent 2 Key System and remove all barriers and any Self-Serving Provision in 2025. Please vote wisely. If you are in doubts, read Art 19(2)(f).
it’s a Chinese expression - 破釜沉舟, there’s some story behind it you can look up Google on its origins. basically means to cut all roads back and single-mindedly forge ahead
Excuse me , how come nobody nominated candidates who are from Council of Presidential Advisors ? Today i got to know the speaker through the video . These days , whoever applies look like idiots to me no matter what background they come from . UNLESS they volunteer their experiences and services .
"As a hypothetical, the prime minister of the day is raiding the sovereign wealth fund, taking out billions financing films in America and heaven knows what else" What a subtle jibe indeed 🤣🤣🤣
Be clear, the reason a President appointed by PM has no power n hold ceremonial role because he does not hv people mandate. An elected President has people's direct mandate, which nobody in Singapore possess. His executive power should be equal n not less than Government
These are the three eligible to be elected for the next Independent President for Singapore. NSK, Is more for the high and almightly rich people. Tharman, What a waste, he should be the next PM. TKL, Is more for those poor and needy people. NKS and Tharman are smart, able to speak eloquently, but whether they are one of those empty vessels who make the most noise? As for TKL, he may look stupid or an idiot to most of us, but do we think he is stupid or an idiot? Who will be your choice of the next Independent President in 2023! The choice is yours. Vote Wisely.
You are wrong. TKL represents people who are battling mental health issues and tells us about the importance of active aging. He has left the workforce for 16yrs... That is why his mind has degraded so much that nobody can listen to him speak without feeling that it is funny then disgusted afterwards
@franciscody9622 he has left workforce for 16years. I6years of retirement changes a lot of someone's abilities. You can see from how he speaks and acts this past 10yrs. Thats why gov say to work till old. You stop working, you get dementia fast
The problem with that was the Governor General was not elected, but Gough Whitlam was. The Governor General of any Commonwealth Realm should exercise his/her power much like how a reigning monarch that is not elected should. The Governor General veered of constitutional convention at the time, it would be like if King Charles III dismisses Rishi Sunak now and called for a general election. Looking at the polls, the Labour party would most likely win in the UK much like how the opposition leader Malcolm Fraser won the subsequent Australian federal election against Gough Whitlam. But Charles would be overplaying his hand as an unelected head of state. Luckily, the president of Singapore is elected
@00-_-_-_-00 based on your analogy, not just dismissing sunak but at the same time appointing starmer as caretaker government. Actually my point is that we must not choose a president who with the intention using such custodial powers as an instant. That should be used as last resort. I felt that too much emphasis put on check and balance is a bad thing. I come to conclusion that kin lian simply not qualified to run for presidency. Whitlam dismissal is one bad example of what singapore should avoid. President should be a wise sage where advices are seek whenever difficulties happened beyond normal parliamentary process. Thaman is right about president should be a referee. To me, thaman is the man for the job while nks can be member of presidential council
Typical Pro PAP commenter n his bias comment. Political Neutral Indeed, all these while Singapore Presidents were endorsed by PAP, a political party. Why are you not commenting? Where are you? Why comment now?
You can say until the cows come home: show us where you found evidence that some of those candidates are endorsed or funded by PAP? On the other hand, two opposition leader publicly announced they are supporting TKL, who day in day out kept using "being independent" as a selling point.
TKL was one of the Tans in 2011 and Mr Woon didn't even consider him. And based on his discouragement of any political dramas between the President and PM clearly implied TKL's purpose for this run should be taken with cautionnary measures. Lol.
Be clear, Singapore did not inherit British system completely, its a partial cherries picking system Singapore inherited. In UK, they hv monarch, which is completely neutral from political system, Singapore President is appointed by ruling party, how neutral can such president be is questionable.
Ong teng cheong for one was politically neutral even though he was from PAP. He questioned the govt on the use of reserve funds and earnings and how to use it. He was the one that suggested the half half policy we now use today. He also independently called for all assets to be known.
After your explanation, i realise Tharman is not suitable for the presidency AT ALL. He has always been a "Yes Sir 3 bags full" kind of minister that has been cruising along his entire career. And also he is still a director in the shady WEF organisation as of now. If he ever becomes a president, does he pledge his allegiance to his WEF boss or to Singaporeans?
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Ong teng cheong is an excellent president. He nominated him although he didn't vote for him. He is impartial, and does not take things personally. I am glad he was the president. The contributions he made to the reserves are what makes it so successful today.
Agree. It is important for the person on how firm and unconstrained-minded they are when performing their constitutional duties protecting the interest of Singapore and Singaporeans.
Guiding principles are important and the Late President Ong has that.
What a breath of fresh air to listen to someone who knows what they are talking about. 👧👀
He knows nutz. Just a PAP troll
I concur. Unlike those who only criticize and REALLY know nutz.
Then don't waste your time listening to Walter, who not only speaks impeccably but full of knowledge...... just go play with your little nutz😅
A very succinct sharing of the importance and RELEVANCE of the Presidency in our political structure.
very clear, fair explanation, TQ Mr Woon.
Wat so fair? Just a bias comment
Thank you 🙏 Mr Woon ~ I m so glad that Singapore has people of your caliber.
His calibre? 😂 not neutral, bias
I didn't realize how important this video is....thank you
Bs from joker
This video ought to be shown and taught to all in Sg, including our children, who will grow up to be voters, and hopefully responsible ones.
You can teach your own children too!
Excellent piece Prof Walter Woon! Thank you for making things so clear and easy to understand. And thank you Mothership, for initiating this! 🙏🙏
Good to see the IMO very smart Mr Walter Woon again, clearing things up for us in a PE that has gone a bit messy, veering towards a GE. Interestingly, the candidates we have now seem to want the job. Mr Woon should consider running for the Presidency one day.
Well, everyone who stands surely have to say they want to be - otherwise it will be silly right? The differentiating factor is, for what reason... for ego, for public service, out of a sense of necessity for greater good, for prove one is rich, for whatever...I think from their speeches you can tell who's who.
He qualifies or not? Has he run a govt corporation big enough as per the ruling govt dictated by then ?
@@gohsiewhau4819 he would likely qualify under the public sector track as a former attorney general
@@gohsiewhau4819 Obviously, you don’t know enough of Mr Woon.
There is advice that civil servants should be impartial politically. But I do not know of any law to Enforce this with a punishment to civil servants found to be helping ruling party win elections by being biased to support the ruling party. If you aware such enforcement laws, do let me know.
I suggest a serious punishment be raised by opposition.
I quote state media ST in 2016 :
Quote :
Civil servants not independent of elected Government, but they should be politically impartial: PM Lee
End Quote
This is public info on ST online. 2016
Further Quote:
However, "civil servants should be politically impartial", he added.
"They should not be campaigning for or against a political party. They must not misuse state resources or powers for partisan political purposes, but neither should they shy away from carrying out their duties without fear or favour when a matter might prove to be politically controversial."
Thx Walter for sharing your insights and advice. The PAC will need your service too 😊
If Prof Woon runs for president, I will vote for him as well.
Too bad someone as learned as Prof Woon does not qualify as he's not running a 500 million company.. 'Rules of the empire'
He qualifies by virtue of him having been the Attorney-General for 3 years from 2008 to 2010 (see Constituttion of Singapore art 19(3)(a)) @@azreyevans1843
@@azreyevans1843he was Attorney General, so yes he does qualify.
@@Sethisfy he held the position for 2 years..?
Minimum tenure is 3 years.
There is advice that civil servants should be impartial politically. But I do not know of any law to Enforce this with a punishment to civil servants found to be helping ruling party win elections by being biased to support the ruling party. If you aware such enforcement laws, do let me know.
I suggest a serious punishment be raised by opposition.
I quote state media ST in 2016 :
Quote :
Civil servants not independent of elected Government, but they should be politically impartial: PM Lee
End Quote
This is public info on ST online. 2016
Further Quote:
However, "civil servants should be politically impartial", he added.
"They should not be campaigning for or against a political party. They must not misuse state resources or powers for partisan political purposes, but neither should they shy away from carrying out their duties without fear or favour when a matter might prove to be politically controversial."
Similar to an independent director who relinquish his executive directorship can be independent and will be valuable to shareholder because he/she know the operation of the company. That put him /her in a better position in the board comparing to external independent director.
Thank u for the clarfication & advice!
I really respect Walter Woon in Singapore !
Nothing worth of respect, just another PAP troll
Dear Mr Woon, with your capability and was ever the Attorney-General of Sg, you are much qualify for the role too. Hopefully you will consider to stand to run in the next PE.
Walter Woon, Tommy Koh and Kishore should run for president.
Tommy Koh is not qualified.
Neither is Kishore. The requirements make it difficult to qualify.
Very well said N logically correct he got the points to have a real independent that not in debt to any political party.
I like the video for popping up definitions of words like ‘Bulwark’ in the middle of the video. Great explainer
Great interview, thank you
Malaysia needs a person like you to be an advisor.,🙏
Brilliant! ❤
President's important job is to be a role model to all Singaporeans. He must be the kind of person that you will ask your children to look up to.
And they need to have a 500M company
@@kohcy514 yep otherwise too many people will be eligible. End up 1 race got 20 people running can you imagine?
Thank you Mr. Walter Woon.. i understand now..good luck Singaporeans voting for your new Head of State.. may Allah ease the process.. may the choices you made, would leave remarkable impacts later on..
A very good lesson .
Just bias bs
Spot On!!!!!
We don’t want Political Drama.
My business law lecturer told me he is the God of companies law.
In a sense yes! He wrote the Company Law book for biz students to study
Hahaha... I like how he cited "financing films in America". Clearly suanning someone in our region.
But I am curious, why don’t also have a time limitation of when they must resign to when they can contest of at least 1-1.5 years. So that the independence will not be questioned.
A president candidate that runs uncontested sorta defeats the purpose of being an elected president no?
Has it crossed your mind that those from the public service could have been instructed to come forward? No one wants this job, as they're already well to do before that, except for the last one, who has a huge pay increase, more like triple.
Breath of fresh air
After watching this more and more I feel drawn to NKS
A dose of clarity.
Finally someone who knows what he is talking about.
The President's job is to prevent nepotism. That's why it's highly important to have someone who's not beholden to the Prime Minister.
As well as not beholden to the Opposition.
Where were you when halimah was president?
Exactly, full of bs
Most articulate person in Singapore
❤❤❤❤❤
I first qualify that I m in support of the EP, and the process.
But Walter, since you were involved in the drafting of the EP, why is there still a way for the government of the day to overrule the President’s veto by gaining a 2/3 majority in parliament. With today’s scenario, where there is a supermajority, the government can easily achieve this by exercising the whip.
@franciscody9622 It may break down even more... like our two neighbours up north.
@@JohnLee-gt3sr We might as well be a single-party state, ruled perpetually by the incumbent, like China (or North Korea), if that's what you're worried about. You can count yourself lucky that the incumbent hasn't yet gone rampant thus far, or you'll beg for viable opposition to stand up to the tyranny. By then, it'd be too late, and would most definitely require armed struggle to unseat them from power.
After listening, i am not sure how to select these 3 candidates as i feel that they are not qualified based on what they said in the public and interviews esp TKL
Pretty sure he's talking about Tan Kin Lian
Well and good. So, can you please explain how the appointment of the Attorney-General (for three terms now and running) not nepotism?
Can you show proof why his appointment was because of nepotism? And why if there were 3 different AGs it could not be?
We should have you to have a good chat with everyone. Cause some people are still delusional about what is happening.
We know it very clearly who is most suitable for the seat!!
Kin lian should be the president. S'pore needs someone like him on the world stage to speak on bold topics like pretty girls and toilets.👍👍
Lol and if you vote for him on sep 1, you are done
You saying he spent 30 years at NTUC speaking about girls and toilets and grew the co-operative 600 times its size? I wouldn't mind if he can multi-task and yet keep the extra-ordinary productivity.
He's my man!
Every pretty girl he talks to will be wondering what's in his mind! 😬
@@Sentinel-911 TKL was an egotistical, pompous a**hole wen he was heading INCOME. Behaved as if INCOME belonged to him. Talks down to his staff, prob bcos he tot he had superior intellect.
I disagree about keeping disputes secret. If citizens are not aware, how can citizens make the right decision to vote?
Oh wow MR Walter I would sure vote for you as a president..! Very well and clearly explained. It also clearly shows that Tharman is not suitable… as he has shown by leaving an MP post to come run for president. If what you say about our reserve is true … than the only reason why the ruling party want to have their own people is to cover up the profits they made during covid. Remember Singapore was heavily invested in the vaccine…. So if the made a windfall profit and are still increasing the GST and other tax etc it shows how deep their greed is…!!!
Tharman is young. After President, Tharman cannot take other jobs… He should run some big global project first, maybe climate change and ESG. Then come back next round and be President. No rush. Even if Kok Song win, he can run next round.
I think all the TKL supporters need to watch this video. They seem unaware of the detailed information and explanation shared by this gentleman (whom I must say, impressed me).
NKS 👍
i love that shirt. where can i buy it
Fair enough 6 years for a president, then why the constitution changed for all elections campaigning to be only at best 9 days and u expect ppl to make a decision for 6 years?
Tkl doesnt seem to understand the role of president
Its u n that joker dont know the role
In democratic system, people mandate decides the power. Elect President has people direct mandate, nobody (including PM) has this mandate. Its a joke Role of President need to be dictate by people without pple mandate
Without extreme unfair advantage one kiasu never can achieve anything jn his life as proven by himself. Sg, pls wake up.
I like his remarks about nepotism..giving position to relatives, relative and friends...that's what the president is suppose to prevent. That's an excellent point. Now, look around.
Looking around...
Nope, no nepotism here!
Very easy to know who is the most independent of the 3.
This guy like jiat kentang in uk sibei long
Halimah Zero Votes, is that a Mandate?
How did the Walk-Over clause came about in the amendments if over 50% mandate was preferred?
You guys politicised the post of president by making it an elected presidency and you expect the post to be politically neutral. Trying to round the square peg eh? 😂
Not truth that they veto conflicting interest in position in Government positions.. Dr Ng and his wife. PM lee and his son.
3:44 Are u sure not in Sg? 😅
Yeah ... neutrality ... Right 🤣🤣
The fact is that nobody can be non-political. Everybody has views and opinions aligning with a certain political faction. The political scene in Singapore has been badly polarized so the underlying intentions of the voting population makes the concept of a non-partisan presidency a non-starter. Just look at the 3 candidates and the people supporting them.
Opposition politicians aren't sophisticated enough to have differing views on the use of the reserve which does not involve a social agenda. It's their only promise to the people. To raid the reserve for political capital. To "Huat" or so to speak. Something the opposition parties have been using as their rallying call for a long time.
If the President is open to using the reserves for social spending then it is on the opposition side. Otherwise it is on the PAP's side. The people are simply not interested in the other ways the President can wield his powers. If they were, I'd be far less worried.
To Huat, or not to Huat, that is the question.
We must prevent nepotism. Tharman is definitely a no no for EP.
hallo955 TKL is worse... he's beholden to the Opposition! N he's also a "chee-ko-pek" who thinks it's harmless to objectify pretty girls.
NKS! NKS!
How can he blame Mr Ong Teng Cheong for being too independent. Obviously he is very PAP or for the current government. Now, he unconsciously or or consciously telling people don't go for those who professed to be independent. He may land up like OTC. Walter Woon is well know to be very Pro PAP.
Sg still has some GOOD men.....
Someone who speaks like an auntie, definitely out, hor??😂
Did SG really spend prudently?!
No one knows. No one has the information to know other than the people spending the money.
So Walter Woon thinks that The President should be independent and not some related to the Govt. directly or indirectly. So, is he confirming that TKL is most unrelated?
he has the support from 3 politicians from different political parties. i dont see that as independent.
This guy has no credibility, Tharman was endorsed by PAP, a political party with supporting resources. So does Tony Tan. Where was he? Keeping his mouth shut then, y comment now?
@@deschan2246 I kept hearing people say Tharman endorsed by PAP, and supported by them with resources. Where id they hear that, or do they have evidence, announcement, statements? Or these are just imagination because they really hated PAP so much?
@@deschan2246 TKL is endorsed by other political parties, openly. So, he's also not credible.
Nope, he's clearly aware dat TKL is beholden to the Opposition. Just look at Lim Tean. He has a current court case agt him going on, n he told the judge he needs extra time to find a defence lawyer bcos he was too busy CAMPAIGNING for TKL!
Isn't it funny?
Cannot be a member of a Political Party "On the date of his/her nomination".
AKA independent of the mind On the date of his nomination?.
Where on earth would you find such "loose" clause in the commercial world?
Can we interpret that after the date of his/her nomination, he can return back to his PAP Political Party and PAP mindset?
It is "absolutely Essential" for Singaporeans to Restore the Independent 2 Key System and remove all barriers and any Self-Serving Provision in 2025. Please vote wisely.
If you are in doubts, read Art 19(2)(f).
Adjunct professor's view can have negative impact on the presidential election
Someone left a loose clause hanging as if making 3 years old out of Singaporeans.
Is that a good job well done? No.
What does breaks his kettle mean?
it’s a Chinese expression - 破釜沉舟, there’s some story behind it you can look up Google on its origins. basically means to cut all roads back and single-mindedly forge ahead
Crossing the Rubicon
Excuse me , how come nobody nominated candidates who are from Council of Presidential Advisors ? Today i got to know the speaker through the video .
These days , whoever applies look like idiots to me no matter what background they come from . UNLESS they volunteer their experiences and services .
LKY koyok.
Deprogramme now.
"As a hypothetical, the prime minister of the day is raiding the sovereign wealth fund, taking out billions financing films in America and heaven knows what else" What a subtle jibe indeed 🤣🤣🤣
why didn’t he run for the president?
Ah i see. So PM can remove cpib director. Noted.
You say Tony (Does not match what you say). I did not vote for TCB in the 4 Tan election. TCB is closest match to what you say. ???
Be clear, the reason a President appointed by PM has no power n hold ceremonial role because he does not hv people mandate.
An elected President has people's direct mandate, which nobody in Singapore possess.
His executive power should be equal n not less than Government
Upcmg future he shud be
These are the three eligible to be elected for the next Independent President for Singapore.
NSK, Is more for the high and almightly rich people.
Tharman, What a waste, he should be the next PM.
TKL, Is more for those poor and needy people.
NKS and Tharman are smart, able to speak eloquently, but whether they are one of those empty vessels who make the most noise?
As for TKL, he may look stupid or an idiot to most of us, but do we think he is stupid or an idiot?
Who will be your choice of the next Independent President in 2023!
The choice is yours.
Vote Wisely.
You are wrong. TKL represents people who are battling mental health issues and tells us about the importance of active aging. He has left the workforce for 16yrs... That is why his mind has degraded so much that nobody can listen to him speak without feeling that it is funny then disgusted afterwards
Thaman is the best. Tkl should migrate back to Malaysia
@franciscody9622 he has left workforce for 16years. I6years of retirement changes a lot of someone's abilities. You can see from how he speaks and acts this past 10yrs. Thats why gov say to work till old. You stop working, you get dementia fast
@franciscody9622 He WAS not...
Therefore it’s Not healthy to hv obedient puppets as our president. What for? Waste tax money.
TKL is going to change the constitution for PE so that people of his calibre can contest in the future.
Dumb dumb. Donald trump calibre type
Newsflash: The president cannot amend the constitution. He has to run for GE and command two-thirds majority of parliament if he wants to do that
He is going to rename President Elect to Eternal Monarchy 😁
@@tingguoyu4671
That was LKY
the original dirty Harry
@franciscody9622 The only way he can succeed is if Singapore can lower the standard of government set by LKY
Using whitlam dismissal 1975 as reference, woe would be the day if the president clashes with pm.
The problem with that was the Governor General was not elected, but Gough Whitlam was. The Governor General of any Commonwealth Realm should exercise his/her power much like how a reigning monarch that is not elected should. The Governor General veered of constitutional convention at the time, it would be like if King Charles III dismisses Rishi Sunak now and called for a general election. Looking at the polls, the Labour party would most likely win in the UK much like how the opposition leader Malcolm Fraser won the subsequent Australian federal election against Gough Whitlam. But Charles would be overplaying his hand as an unelected head of state. Luckily, the president of Singapore is elected
@00-_-_-_-00 based on your analogy, not just dismissing sunak but at the same time appointing starmer as caretaker government. Actually my point is that we must not choose a president who with the intention using such custodial powers as an instant. That should be used as last resort. I felt that too much emphasis put on check and balance is a bad thing. I come to conclusion that kin lian simply not qualified to run for presidency. Whitlam dismissal is one bad example of what singapore should avoid. President should be a wise sage where advices are seek whenever difficulties happened beyond normal parliamentary process. Thaman is right about president should be a referee. To me, thaman is the man for the job while nks can be member of presidential council
the election is something like makeup...
All the more it MUST then be 🍍🍍🍍🗳🖋 liddat then can HENG ONG HUAT AAAAAA!!!!!⭐🔥
🍍is not independent!
He just broke off 2 months ago from his lover of 20 years!
@@ccteo3253same as Ong Teng Cheong😂
to be honest george was the real independant one, but pap mess it up ......now no choice....go for opposition guy tkl
Nepotism... Hmm
Typical Pro PAP commenter n his bias comment. Political Neutral Indeed, all these while Singapore Presidents were endorsed by PAP, a political party. Why are you not commenting? Where are you? Why comment now?
You can say until the cows come home: show us where you found evidence that some of those candidates are endorsed or funded by PAP? On the other hand, two opposition leader publicly announced they are supporting TKL, who day in day out kept using "being independent" as a selling point.
@atticuslai move on if u dont get it !!!
Not my job to educate ignorant who has no history in Singapore
TKL was one of the Tans in 2011 and Mr Woon didn't even consider him. And based on his discouragement of any political dramas between the President and PM clearly implied TKL's purpose for this run should be taken with cautionnary measures. Lol.
Be clear, Singapore did not inherit British system completely, its a partial cherries picking system Singapore inherited. In UK, they hv monarch, which is completely neutral from political system, Singapore President is appointed by ruling party, how neutral can such president be is questionable.
Would you have preferred the Queen to be our symbolic Head of State, holding the key to our reserves?
@@atticuslaiy not? If she is truly neutral
@@deschan2246don’t be stupid. The Queen or King of England will raid our reserves to renovate Buckingham Palace. Neutral? Dumb dumb 😂
First person that comes to mind is LHL's personal lawyer, Lucien Wong who just so happens is now the Attorney General. What a stroke of luck
How to be politically neutral in the first place? And even if one resigns from a political party, that doesn't mean he is neutral?
It's like wearing different hats
i'm glad someone finally verbalised this observation
@stickymoney as if in western countries, those presidents are truly neutral
@@timloo6191 yup!
Ong teng cheong for one was politically neutral even though he was from PAP. He questioned the govt on the use of reserve funds and earnings and how to use it. He was the one that suggested the half half policy we now use today.
He also independently called for all assets to be known.
After your explanation, i realise Tharman is not suitable for the presidency AT ALL. He has always been a "Yes Sir 3 bags full" kind of minister that has been cruising along his entire career. And also he is still a director in the shady WEF organisation as of now. If he ever becomes a president, does he pledge his allegiance to his WEF boss or to Singaporeans?