Oh Yeah, maybe he ( just like SG’s Political Leadership ) all conveniently forgot significance that Full Name of Singapore starts with word “ Republic “ 😂😂😂
Everyday, everytime, i have been telling people the raise of 500million from 100million hurdle is too high and almost arbitrary to obtain. Finally someone with the expertise expressed the same sentiments. His comparison with the criteria with the PM is also spot on. I feel that these obstacles in placed are political induced in the first place.
PM Lee should stand up to control the current situation before it turn worst one day, and tell all Singaporean, since there are people tends to mix up and mess up the President role and politician role, every Singaporean should honour their vote for a President who best suitable with fullest heart to our Home for the role! As he realised that is an misused of it, consider to revert it back to appointed President. At the end of the day, majority Singaporean will want a stability, peace, harmony and lawful country, a President that really represent Singapore. People are taking chance to dividle and mess up the country, PM will have to stricten and fix it, like what LKY said, [ I am not here to do a job, this is my home, I love my home with my fullest heart, no one can break it down! ]
We don’t need a President or a Senior Minister The PM is PRIME Minister Don’t waste money We also don’t need so many loud voices The PM Wong is able to stand on his own two feet Kevin Tan makes good sense It was LHL who put all the hurdles to prevent others from vying for At that time it was Halimah he had in mind Barriers were placed so high That plot riled many
The key point is to prevent any Rogue Government Or any Government turned Rogue, from raiding all the reserves and these may not be necessarily from the Opposition minority Parties, LTK said "Real risk to Singapore's reserve is a PAP Govt with an establishment President".
Over 50 years. If PAP wanted to raid the reserves, they would have done so long ago, many times over. They were appointing Presidents for ages, no one complained. The PAP government, on their own initiative, introduced elected Presidency. They didn't have to do it, but they did. Now tell me who is the real risk.
@@YLO3485 In 2021, I lost all trust in them; Sacrifice Life, Sacrifice Jobs; Elderly were relegated to make shift facilities; Home Recovery instead of proper hospital care and despite the highly infectious variants. Goes to show why these days, Trust Cannot be Simply Granted. May those lesser fortunate RIP.
@@andyt920 Does not benefit the average Singaporeans. Only serve to benefits the rich and business men. It was reported sometimes ago that MAS reported lost of some ~ $30 billions? In the other news, Singapore's manufacturing output down 0.9% year-on-year in July, less than expected. The Malaysian economy expanded by 5.6% in the first quarter of 2023 (Q1 2023), comparing favourably with regional growth such as Indonesia (5%), China (4.5%) and Vietnam (3.3%). Singapore’s GDP Grew by 0.1 Per Cent in the First Quarter of 2023 despite "CECA", ICT, rising cost of living, sky high HDB/BTO. Time for Change. China’s GDP experienced a healthy growth rate of 5.5 percent year-on-year in the first half of 2023, one percentage point faster than the first quarter. Total GDP reached RMB 59.3 trillion (approx. US$8.3 trillion). In the second quarter, GDP grew by 6.3 percent year-on-year, up from 4.5 percent year-on-year growth in the first quarter.
True. People who have 500m in equality from a single company wouldn't want to run for Presidential anyway, it is like 大才小用 you know. They would simply keep running their company and continue to build it up further.
By setting this new rule or prior to setting this new rule, I think they already carried an internal servey to see how many oppo parties' members or past members had $500m company, so as to sieve them out.
Very good advice & clear explanation of President’s role and power. Hope all voters have heard this and then think of the character, personality & capability of the 3 candidates before casting their votes.
😂😂😂😂😂. The one won only got 10% vote. All thirty of them their deposit got forfeited. Even the one who won. Cos less than 15% vote will be forfeited. Hahahaha
No need to say no then why need to say no? Die die must oppose for the sake of opposing? Seriously, oppy pest should spend less time online and spend more time to upgrade urself and get ur life tgt.
Thank you for this platform to let sg know the details n reasoning behind the expectation of a P. But why it seems the message is also to prevent what we are already seeing around us that sg should not get into that situation like others one day
The Real Danger of A President Keep " Selected " by One Party ! Like Singapore , Keep Profiting from All Sources of Governance ! Like I said , A COUNTRY IS NOT A COUNTRY , IF A LEADER DOES NOT TAKE HIS PEOPLES AS THEIR UPMOST IMPORTANCE !! IGNORING THE COMMON POOR & VULNERABLE . LOOK AT OUR HOUSE , SO OVERSTAFF & OVERPAID ! DO WHAT EXCEPT FOR A FEW WHO REALLY INTO THE GROUND WHERE MAORITY ARE SEEM FLY BY NITE MPs !
I appreciate Mr Tan for elucidating the president's role comprehensively. The chronological aspect becomes pivotal when we consider the comparison between the appointed Presidents, Mr. Yusof Ishak and Dr Benjamin Sheares. That era's economic, social, and political landscape diverges significantly from the present. Were Prime Minister Lee to emulate his predecessor's approach in appointing a candidate, it could lead to upheaval within Singapore's populace. Interestingly, even a walkover victory faces criticism today for being perceived as falling short of democratic ideals. Nevertheless, you've presented an intriguing perspective.
Not bad. I think after hearing everything you have said, it seems to be pointing that someone like you yourself falls into the most suitable candidates pool for President.
I guess that the president’s salary is $2million per year? X6 years. Not to mention all the expenditures billed to the state: chefs, chauffeurs, body guards, aides, press officers, council of presidential advisers, upkeep of the Istana, etc. The tax money can be better spent, to build new infrastructure or help the needy, rather than to spent on a position that is limited in power, and can be distributed to the other ministries. If govt policies are not good, the ground is unhappy, which president of the past has helped make the people happier, more unified? It’s just an illusion. As for the second key, we hv seen it is actually a duplicate key held by an obedient servant.
It's hightime, Singaporeans ought/should change our wardrobes and not wearing the same garments throughout our lives!! Ironically, unlike those Presidents and MPs of other countries, Singapore is on the reverse in power,whereby the PM holds the Key in Power
The Constitution was changed and passed through the PAP-dominated Parliament in 2017. Among the changes in the Constitution, private-sector candidates must helm a company with at least S$500 million in shareholders’ equity, up from S$100 million in paid-up capital.
We cannot afford to pray to the chosen one who forged his way to the top and succeeded given the situation back then -- like a god. All and any ideas from the successful chosen one are followed and made mostly correct, regardless of limitations, and that is akin to praying and hoping. The effort is in revising the criteria again and again and to review the benefits and limitations, vividly, so that the populace can see or feel the authenticity in the efforts put in, gain trust and then make their educated choices -- more good for more people, and mostly correct by most people involved in learning and making decisions collectively. Voting blindly by emotions is being lazy and not concerned as a member of a large community called a nation.
Prevent possible Rogue Ruling Government with affiliate President from raiding reserves. As of now translate to prevent possible Rogue Ruling PAP Government with affiliate President from raiding reserves? ???
So , the word " eminence " seems a high concern as it can bring about a great impact on a country's standing when the country being one of the small states faces bigger countries there . i only know that Sir Lee Kuan Yew had an unique look when he was about 30s to 40s , he was pock-faced yet he made a lot of friends from all over the world . Today we have men ministers who are about 1.65m tall or slightly taller . The kind of height is similar to the Imperial Japanese soldiers whose height had shocked the West military officials who were about 1.75m tall and above . Eminence hmm a strong word . i only know that Chinese pandas have eminence .
PAP changes constitution to “influence” the qualification of presidential candidates Mr Tay is, of course, technically correct to say that PEC does not “select” candidates but to “determine” if a candidate is qualified to run for President by “applying the criteria set out in the Constitution”. However, Mr Tay forgot to mention that it was the PAP, through its dominance in Parliament, that changed the selection criteria in the Constitution so as to filter out potential rival candidates whom it did not want to become President.
You were not wrong in that sense. Still, an appointed President will still not command any mandate as opposers will say he will be beholden to the government of the day that appointed him/her
IMO, if I am not mistaken, the founding father, LKY felt that it was necessary that the president must have the people's mandate to exercise the "custodian duties" in following crucial situation .... a) when an irresponsible/corrupted/racist political party (was elected via a freak election) to govern the country b) when no single political party has obtained the necessary majority to form the government and needs to "negotiate" for awhile with other elected parties to form a coalition government. However, at the moment, it seems that an elected president seems "superfluous" because the current ruling party has the majority to form the government and so far, it has governed the country effectively and responsibly (with its zero-tolerance to corruption policy).
The Pertinent Question is : Was he involved with the Constitution Amendments for EP or NOT? If not, may I suggest to you to listen to WalterW to tell you the Original of the Original intent and purpose of the EP. The Original Intent and Purpose of the Amendment was to have a President representing every Singaporeans and not just one Political Party and he should be Politically Neutral, I wasn't the only one, there are other people making the same point [Ref: Walter video]. If such is so, then Singaporeans should see to it that they give NKS their full blessings since he is the only truly Non-Partisan Candidate in the race.
Thanks for explaining. In more obvious way, Rouge govt means non-PAP government. That's LKY intend of setting up elected President, in case PAP lose power... Prof suggestion to go back to appointed president will not work, as a non-PAP ruling party will appoint a non-PAP president
How would one assure gumption if the person is appointed by persons who at best want ceremonial gumption? And to be clear, President Ong was the exception rather than the rule and how he was treated demonstrates the point. Unfortunately Prof Tan's idealism is more charming than practical.
Isn't it funny? Cannot be a member of a Political Party "On the date of his/her nomination". AKA independent of the mind On the date of his nomination?. Where on earth would you find such "loose" clause in the commercial world? Can we interpret that after the date of his/her nomination, he can return back to his PAP Political Party and PAP mindset? It is "absolutely Essential" for Singaporeans to Restore the Independent 2 Key System and remove all barriers and any Self-Serving Provision in 2025. Please vote wisely.
The historical context of Mr Ong’s presidency is crucial as we consider Tharman’s potential candidacy. Since Mr Ong’s tenure, PAP has amended the constitution in 1996 to necessitate presidential consultation with the Council of Presidential Advisers (CPA) on matters concerning past reserves and key public appointments. If the president’s decision diverges from the CPA’s advice, Parliament can override it with a two-thirds majority vote.
So current problem is criteria: Set too high, nobody can be Set too low, everybody wan to be Appointed, everybody disappointed Solution: Since president is powerless/useless, president should not be paid and he/she should be being president out of his/her free will for the better of Singapore. If you cannot support urself with $0 income as president then you should reconsider urself as candidate
Well, but Yusof Ishak and Benjamin Sheares did not have the responsibility in their term to act as custodian of the reserves. The government could use the reserves as it deems at that time...
Yes, it was less complicated then and they could just stay neutral and concentrate on social activities, instead of wading into political issues. Good point.
@@wongfm11 actually the President never gets into political issues. It is only SOME of the recent candidates who are making false promises of using the President’s office to do politics.
He explain the history, nature and responsiblities of the government so well.
Tell that to the current party….ensure they comprehend n follow.
Oh Yeah, maybe he ( just like SG’s Political Leadership ) all conveniently forgot significance that Full Name of Singapore starts with word “ Republic “ 😂😂😂
We are the Citizens of Singapore
But why PE need to have FIVE....
Singapore need a PE
Answer is No
Everyday, everytime, i have been telling people the raise of 500million from 100million hurdle is too high and almost arbitrary to obtain. Finally someone with the expertise expressed the same sentiments.
His comparison with the criteria with the PM is also spot on. I feel that these obstacles in placed are political induced in the first place.
100M to 500M Bullshit make voters think about "Prevent possible Rogue Ruling PAP Government with affiliate President from raiding reserves? ???"
What happened to our PARF ?
When we sold our cars we had PARF to plough back. Gone into salaries ? And CDC vouchers ?
Just remain as a puppet will do. 💙💙💙
I really liked that Dr Tan highlighted the amendment of 2017 from 100m to 500m for non-public service candidates.
Great, objective and logical assessment by Prof Kevin.
PM Lee should stand up to control the current situation before it turn worst one day, and tell all Singaporean, since there are people tends to mix up and mess up the President role and politician role, every Singaporean should honour their vote for a President who best suitable with fullest heart to our Home for the role! As he realised that is an misused of it, consider to revert it back to appointed President. At the end of the day, majority Singaporean will want a stability, peace, harmony and lawful country, a President that really represent Singapore. People are taking chance to dividle and mess up the country, PM will have to stricten and fix it, like what LKY said, [ I am not here to do a job, this is my home, I love my home with my fullest heart, no one can break it down! ]
I appreciate this. 🙏 thank you for the comprehensive and concise explanation.
Singapore does not need President ! 😂
Well said!
Best video explaining the presidency, difference between appointed and elected presidency etc.
We don’t need a President or a Senior Minister
The PM is PRIME Minister
Don’t waste money
We also don’t need so many loud voices
The PM Wong is able to stand on his own two feet
Kevin Tan makes good sense
It was LHL who put all the hurdles to prevent others from vying for
At that time it was Halimah he had in mind
Barriers were placed so high
That plot riled many
The key point is to prevent any Rogue Government Or any Government turned Rogue, from raiding all the reserves and these may not be necessarily from the Opposition minority Parties,
LTK said "Real risk to Singapore's reserve is a PAP Govt with an establishment President".
Over 50 years. If PAP wanted to raid the reserves, they would have done so long ago, many times over. They were appointing Presidents for ages, no one complained. The PAP government, on their own initiative, introduced elected Presidency. They didn't have to do it, but they did. Now tell me who is the real risk.
@@YLO3485 In one of the fund, 70% went to the Airport and establishment. Who runs the airport?
@@YLO3485 In 2021, I lost all trust in them;
Sacrifice Life, Sacrifice Jobs;
Elderly were relegated to make shift facilities;
Home Recovery instead of proper hospital care and despite the highly infectious variants.
Goes to show why these days, Trust Cannot be Simply Granted.
May those lesser fortunate RIP.
@@ttkoh123who benefit from a new airport?
@@andyt920 Does not benefit the average Singaporeans. Only serve to benefits the rich and business men. It was reported sometimes ago that MAS reported lost of some ~ $30 billions?
In the other news, Singapore's manufacturing output down 0.9% year-on-year in July, less than expected.
The Malaysian economy expanded by 5.6% in the first quarter of 2023 (Q1 2023), comparing favourably with regional growth such as Indonesia (5%), China (4.5%) and Vietnam (3.3%).
Singapore’s GDP Grew by 0.1 Per Cent in the First Quarter of 2023 despite "CECA", ICT, rising cost of living, sky high HDB/BTO.
Time for Change.
China’s GDP experienced a healthy growth rate of 5.5 percent year-on-year in the first half of 2023, one percentage point faster than the first quarter. Total GDP reached RMB 59.3 trillion (approx. US$8.3 trillion). In the second quarter, GDP grew by 6.3 percent year-on-year, up from 4.5 percent year-on-year growth in the first quarter.
True. People who have 500m in equality from a single company wouldn't want to run for Presidential anyway, it is like 大才小用 you know. They would simply keep running their company and continue to build it up further.
By setting this new rule or prior to setting this new rule, I think they already carried an internal servey to see how many oppo parties' members or past members had $500m company, so as to sieve them out.
Correct, we do not need a President !! What for? pappies has all the damn power...tsk tsk tsk 💙💙
Great interview, thank you.
Very good advice & clear explanation of President’s role and power. Hope all voters have heard this and then think of the character, personality & capability of the 3 candidates before casting their votes.
Can't imagine a too big pool of candidates. Imagine 30 people running for the President at 1 go.
😂😂😂😂😂. The one won only got 10% vote. All thirty of them their deposit got forfeited. Even the one who won. Cos less than 15% vote will be forfeited. Hahahaha
Did the past 3 President's have the gumption to say no to the legislature that were their former colleagues?
No need to say no then why need to say no? Die die must oppose for the sake of opposing?
Seriously, oppy pest should spend less time online and spend more time to upgrade urself and get ur life tgt.
Excellent. Good Job.
The separate body report to who?
Thank you for this platform to let sg know the details n reasoning behind the expectation of a P. But why it seems the message is also to prevent what we are already seeing around us that sg should not get into that situation like others one day
The Real Danger of A President Keep " Selected " by One Party ! Like Singapore , Keep Profiting from All Sources of Governance ! Like I said , A COUNTRY IS NOT A COUNTRY , IF A LEADER DOES NOT TAKE HIS PEOPLES AS THEIR UPMOST IMPORTANCE !! IGNORING THE COMMON POOR & VULNERABLE . LOOK AT OUR HOUSE , SO OVERSTAFF & OVERPAID ! DO WHAT EXCEPT FOR A FEW WHO REALLY INTO THE GROUND WHERE MAORITY ARE SEEM FLY BY NITE MPs !
I appreciate Mr Tan for elucidating the president's role comprehensively. The chronological aspect becomes pivotal when we consider the comparison between the appointed Presidents, Mr. Yusof Ishak and Dr Benjamin Sheares. That era's economic, social, and political landscape diverges significantly from the present. Were Prime Minister Lee to emulate his predecessor's approach in appointing a candidate, it could lead to upheaval within Singapore's populace. Interestingly, even a walkover victory faces criticism today for being perceived as falling short of democratic ideals. Nevertheless, you've presented an intriguing perspective.
Which is why he said to appoint a purely ceremonial president and leave the custodial function to a separate body
Not bad. I think after hearing everything you have said, it seems to be pointing that someone like you yourself falls into the most suitable candidates pool for President.
You watched the video in its entirety but probably dropped out at the 15% mark, just like how you probably dropped out of secondary school.
I guess that the president’s salary is $2million per year? X6 years. Not to mention all the expenditures billed to the state: chefs, chauffeurs, body guards, aides, press officers, council of presidential advisers, upkeep of the Istana, etc. The tax money can be better spent, to build new infrastructure or help the needy, rather than to spent on a position that is limited in power, and can be distributed to the other ministries. If govt policies are not good, the ground is unhappy, which president of the past has helped make the people happier, more unified? It’s just an illusion. As for the second key, we hv seen it is actually a duplicate key held by an obedient servant.
This guy should be the President instead.
It's hightime, Singaporeans ought/should change our wardrobes and not wearing the same garments throughout our lives!! Ironically, unlike those Presidents and MPs of other countries, Singapore is on the reverse in power,whereby the PM holds the Key in Power
TKL definitely out. NKS i am worried about his fiancee, might be a spy. I will settle with Tharman - for his personality.
Government with their friendly President can change the law to facilitate their own Kaki…
The Constitution was changed and passed through the PAP-dominated Parliament in 2017. Among the changes in the Constitution, private-sector candidates must helm a company with at least S$500 million in shareholders’ equity, up from S$100 million in paid-up capital.
U oppy sibeh free leh. U guys r everywhere. Like pest.
Spend less time online and go upgrade urself and get ur life tgt.
国家领导不分种族，不分政党，团结一致为新加坡🇸🇬做出贡献。这是人民的幸福☺️
Another hare brain idea from LKY ! LKY has a few of these hare brain ideas, one of them really screw Singapore up for good ... "Two is enough" !
We cannot afford to pray to the chosen one who forged his way to the top and succeeded given the situation back then -- like a god. All and any ideas from the successful chosen one are followed and made mostly correct, regardless of limitations, and that is akin to praying and hoping. The effort is in revising the criteria again and again and to review the benefits and limitations, vividly, so that the populace can see or feel the authenticity in the efforts put in, gain trust and then make their educated choices -- more good for more people, and mostly correct by most people involved in learning and making decisions collectively. Voting blindly by emotions is being lazy and not concerned as a member of a large community called a nation.
One Chance For Change
Kevin Tan! My BMT bunk mate. Hi from Skinny.
Upper house will be a watchdog that will not work with the current mentality
Now we know kiasu & kiasi comes from where.
All these folks with underlying message....
Prevent possible Rogue Ruling Government with affiliate President from raiding reserves. As of now translate to prevent possible Rogue Ruling PAP Government with affiliate President from raiding reserves? ???
I 2nd your opinion that the requirements for President is really to stop everyone but the establishment candidate
thanks prof, good to hear some opinions from the academia
So , the word " eminence " seems a high concern as it can bring about a great impact on a country's standing when the country being one of the small states faces bigger countries there . i only know that Sir Lee Kuan Yew had an unique look when he was about 30s to 40s , he was pock-faced yet he made a lot of friends from all over the world . Today we have men ministers who are about 1.65m tall or slightly taller . The kind of height is similar to the Imperial Japanese soldiers whose height had shocked the West military officials who were about 1.75m tall and above .
Eminence hmm a strong word . i only know that Chinese pandas have eminence .
PAP changes constitution to “influence” the qualification of presidential candidates
Mr Tay is, of course, technically correct to say that PEC does not “select” candidates but to “determine” if a candidate is qualified to run for President by “applying the criteria set out in the Constitution”.
However, Mr Tay forgot to mention that it was the PAP, through its dominance in Parliament, that changed the selection criteria in the Constitution so as to filter out potential rival candidates whom it did not want to become President.
You were not wrong in that sense. Still, an appointed President will still not command any mandate as opposers will say he will be beholden to the government of the day that appointed him/her
IMO, if I am not mistaken, the founding father, LKY felt that it was necessary that the president must have the people's mandate to exercise the "custodian duties" in following crucial situation ....
a) when an irresponsible/corrupted/racist political party (was elected via a freak election) to govern the country
b) when no single political party has obtained the necessary majority to form the government and needs to "negotiate" for awhile with other elected parties to form a coalition government.
However, at the moment, it seems that an elected president seems "superfluous" because the current ruling party has the majority to form the government and so far, it has governed the country effectively and responsibly (with its zero-tolerance to corruption policy).
The Pertinent Question is : Was he involved with the Constitution Amendments for EP or NOT? If not, may I suggest to you to listen to WalterW to tell you the Original of the Original intent and purpose of the EP.
The Original Intent and Purpose of the Amendment was to have a President representing every Singaporeans and not just one Political Party and he should be Politically Neutral, I wasn't the only one, there are other people making the same point [Ref: Walter video].
If such is so, then Singaporeans should see to it that they give NKS their full blessings since he is the only truly Non-Partisan Candidate in the race.
Thanks for explaining.
In more obvious way, Rouge govt means non-PAP government.
That's LKY intend of setting up elected President, in case PAP lose power...
Prof suggestion to go back to appointed president will not work, as a non-PAP ruling party will appoint a non-PAP president
How would one assure gumption if the person is appointed by persons who at best want ceremonial gumption? And to be clear, President Ong was the exception rather than the rule and how he was treated demonstrates the point. Unfortunately Prof Tan's idealism is more charming than practical.
Isn't it funny?
Cannot be a member of a Political Party "On the date of his/her nomination".
AKA independent of the mind On the date of his nomination?.
Where on earth would you find such "loose" clause in the commercial world?
Can we interpret that after the date of his/her nomination, he can return back to his PAP Political Party and PAP mindset?
It is "absolutely Essential" for Singaporeans to Restore the Independent 2 Key System and remove all barriers and any Self-Serving Provision in 2025. Please vote wisely.
If you are in doubts, read Art 19(2)(f).
M’ship it’s a pity You did not ask more probing questions…
The historical context of Mr Ong’s presidency is crucial as we consider Tharman’s potential candidacy.
Since Mr Ong’s tenure, PAP has amended the constitution in 1996 to necessitate presidential consultation with the Council of Presidential Advisers (CPA) on matters concerning past reserves and key public appointments. If the president’s decision diverges from the CPA’s advice, Parliament can override it with a two-thirds majority vote.
u have a excellent point.
Kevin Tan you are absolutely Politically correct !
Kevin Tan explain things very well, really set us thinking deeper
LTK said "Real risk to Singapore's reserve is a PAP Govt with an establishment President".
So current problem is criteria:
Set too high, nobody can be
Set too low, everybody wan to be
Appointed, everybody disappointed
Solution: Since president is powerless/useless, president should not be paid and he/she should be being president out of his/her free will for the better of Singapore. If you cannot support urself with $0 income as president then you should reconsider urself as candidate
Thanks Dr Tan
Well, but Yusof Ishak and Benjamin Sheares did not have the responsibility in their term to act as custodian of the reserves. The government could use the reserves as it deems at that time...
did they?
Yes, it was less complicated then and they could just stay neutral and concentrate on social activities, instead of wading into political issues. Good point.
@@wongfm11 actually the President never gets into political issues. It is only SOME of the recent candidates who are making false promises of using the President’s office to do politics.
Does it make sense to hold PE concurrently with GE?
Wastec of time.We should combine the President with the Prime Minister to save cost n man power like other countries.China is a good example kc
Too many experts nowadays 😂😂
Adjunct Professor is not true professor