Note: We shoot film not because we want the exact representation of what the scene looked but because of the aethetic.. otherwise if you really want true-to-life, shoot digital.. you can't go wrong with digital and real life rep..
amazing video!! I loved all these photos especially that first photo with the house and the cherry blossoms. SWOON! I yearn for the east coast. time to binge the rest of your videos 👍🏼
Dude. That fox photo.. The few times I’ve shot with Ektar, I haven’t really fallen in love it. I’ve got a few rolls that I’ll eventually use, maybe sooner than later after this video. Beautiful photos either way, man.
hahaha i had to sneak in the fox photo! my first time getting wild life on film! and i think it’s an awesome film stock, im just still hooked on those soft portra colors
I honestly fell in love with Ektar after shooting it in mid day Florida light recently for the first time. I know it's a bit finicky with exposure that could skew colors one way or another, but it's a fun film stock to throw in the camera on a bright and sunny day. To me, it's like a 10am-3pm film haha.
it def got me taking pics during a time when i normally wouldn’t and that’s an awesome feeling! i wish i had over exposed more i think that was part of my problem!
this makes sense! It is amazing, for me it just requires a bit too much work on the back end! I wanna copy and paste the same edit onto my photos and then go take more photos hahaha
Haven't had much luck with ektar in 120, but as a 35mm film I adore it. I've also found that it is much more neutral in the blue-yellow compared to most other Kodak films but it really pops the red and greens in a way which can be magical. I do prefer a few of your ektar shots, at 6:28 for example, over the portra though. Except for the sky which is more pleasing to me in all the portra shots.
I'll have to give it a try on 35mm! and I had that exact thought at one point and forgot to mention it in the video - but at times I almost wished that the portra sky could be on the ektar foreground - that would incredible!
Nice job, Robert. Waiting for my first couple of rolls to come back from my Rollei test. I'm going to try to keep going with the film thing, but there is a learning curve to come back to with a camera with no meter! (and other issues) But I agree with your Portra preference - despite the cost! Cheers.
Very cool test. Scans have a big influence on how film displays. It is really hard to get a good, neutral sense of a film, unless you go ISO/Lab testing neutrality, which is just a pain. I prefer, with your process, the Portra shots too.
These came out great. I’ve only used ektar once on 35mm and I didn’t really enjoy it. May have been the scan and edit but the results weren’t amazing. I need to re-check these and maybe have another shot at shooting it.
ektar 100 is one of the best films I've shot, is super easy to use in the darkroom with very accurate colors that are just a tad more intense than portra and invisible grain. in the darkroom i got none of that red skin tone everyone talks about. I don't know why everyone that gets it scanned has such a hard time with it (i don't usually scan my film) but the weird casts you got on your scan just look like they had incorrect color balance, it seems to me like some conversion software/scanners have a hard time with this film for some reason. But if you take care of those black and white points on the scans adjustment curves, you are gonna get beautiful results with that film, it has gorgeous colours
it's so interesting to me because I would assume that since this film was created in 2008, that Kodak would have made it the easiest film to scan (with the digital wave coming into photography) not the most difficult haha thanks for watching!
@@robertvonthaden It's a film for people who know what they're doing. Ektar is, as many put it, a slide film, but a negative. It's very particular, and you HAVE to make sure you convert it correctly and/or edit it. It's not a shoot willy nilly style of film.
Ektar is a weird one and you need to remember where and when it comes from. It was developed to have punchier colours and contrast as it was designed to be scanned on mid-2000s scanners that were competing with CCD sensors which also had punchier colours and contrast so the colour palette reflects more the technology at the time than most other films
Hi Robert, I really enjoyed this video. Ektar reminds me of my grandparents pushing the vibrancy scale up on their television to make everything "more colourful". More of a desaturated man myself but I was given three rolls of this stuff for Christmas so I'll shoot it later in the year. Can I ask what tripod you were using with your Mamiya?
Ektar for sunny days, natural landscapes and wildlife, till the golden hour (I have a landscape at sunset, in the desert, that I really like, good reds there). Porta for cityscapes, people, less "sunny" environments... that's it!
From what I've seen, labs kinda struggle with Ektar. Manual inversion has given me the best and most accurate results. In your results I can see some funky things going on with the red channel, too present in the lows and too absent in the highlights. Your whites should be white, but they are cyan since they lack red. Try rescanning it as a positive and invert it yourself or adjust the red channel. Ektar is much more neutral than people think but it's hard to scan. However I believe it's worth it some times!
I preferred the blues in the sky on the Ektar enough that I can forgive it for the reds everywhere else… and the red should be easily toned down in post.
I find that with ektar the blues can be really agressive and saturated. I prefer the portra shots over the ektar, even though i really like saturated colors the ektar color palate seems a little off.
totally agree! its just a bit off, atleast for my photos of what I shot! I think the only time I may wish I had ektar loaded in the camera would be if I took a shot of a red car!
@@grahamhackett i put my dog back in the car before approaching the gentlemen with big lenses once i saw what was going on ( i’ve never seen foxes here, it was a surprise to me). after going back to the car, i got my dog out while one of the foxes followed me across the parking lot - far from the gentleman doing wildlife photography. all done with much caution and respect to what they were doing. thanks for watching!
These film companies need to reduce the price of the films. Otherwise we will see the demise soon after this 'resurgence ' wave. Sad state of Kodak is that they give the brand name to anyone for money. In my country even kodak TVs are available😂
Ektar is a negative film that acts like a positive film. It is colder than Portra but the orange mask is denser than it so you need to edit that out. It’s the closest modern film to Kodachrome.
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Shot some rolls of Ektar 100 last week, really for the first time ever. Let me know what you guys think of the film stock!
Note: We shoot film not because we want the exact representation of what the scene looked but because of the aethetic.. otherwise if you really want true-to-life, shoot digital.. you can't go wrong with digital and real life rep..
exactly
amazing video!! I loved all these photos especially that first photo with the house and the cherry blossoms. SWOON! I yearn for the east coast. time to binge the rest of your videos 👍🏼
dude thanks so much i really appreciate it. glad these videos found you!
Ektar has a particular thing for blue spectral sensitivity, not a 'cold' film but far from 'warm' either ^^
Dude. That fox photo.. The few times I’ve shot with Ektar, I haven’t really fallen in love it. I’ve got a few rolls that I’ll eventually use, maybe sooner than later after this video. Beautiful photos either way, man.
hahaha i had to sneak in the fox photo! my first time getting wild life on film! and i think it’s an awesome film stock, im just still hooked on those soft portra colors
I honestly fell in love with Ektar after shooting it in mid day Florida light recently for the first time. I know it's a bit finicky with exposure that could skew colors one way or another, but it's a fun film stock to throw in the camera on a bright and sunny day. To me, it's like a 10am-3pm film haha.
it def got me taking pics during a time when i normally wouldn’t and that’s an awesome feeling! i wish i had over exposed more i think that was part of my problem!
Generally I love ektar… in the right setting. Probably my favourite film stock, but I’d only bring it out for super niche use cases
this makes sense! It is amazing, for me it just requires a bit too much work on the back end! I wanna copy and paste the same edit onto my photos and then go take more photos hahaha
Haven't had much luck with ektar in 120, but as a 35mm film I adore it. I've also found that it is much more neutral in the blue-yellow compared to most other Kodak films but it really pops the red and greens in a way which can be magical. I do prefer a few of your ektar shots, at 6:28 for example, over the portra though. Except for the sky which is more pleasing to me in all the portra shots.
I'll have to give it a try on 35mm! and I had that exact thought at one point and forgot to mention it in the video - but at times I almost wished that the portra sky could be on the ektar foreground - that would incredible!
Loved this video Robert! I haven’t shot Ektar in years but I was never a big fan. Loved the shot with the red door🤗❤
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How do you edit your scans? What file format do you receive from the scanner/darkroom? Perhaps another video on this topic?
absolutely i’ll make a video about this! would love to share my process!
Great stuff, I have a photo trip coming up soon, next month actually, and I've been wanting to shoot some Ektar 100 on that trip.
do it! just overexpose a bit more than i did hahahaha
Nice job, Robert. Waiting for my first couple of rolls to come back from my Rollei test. I'm going to try to keep going with the film thing, but there is a learning curve to come back to with a camera with no meter! (and other issues) But I agree with your Portra preference - despite the cost! Cheers.
thanks for watching dan! use the digital as a light meter 😂 no one will know!
Very cool test. Scans have a big influence on how film displays. It is really hard to get a good, neutral sense of a film, unless you go ISO/Lab testing neutrality, which is just a pain. I prefer, with your process, the Portra shots too.
These came out great. I’ve only used ektar once on 35mm and I didn’t really enjoy it. May have been the scan and edit but the results weren’t amazing. I need to re-check these and maybe have another shot at shooting it.
thanks man! I'm learning that most people who shoot ektar edit heavily or scan themselves because the film stock can just go the wrong way quickly!
ektar 100 is one of the best films I've shot, is super easy to use in the darkroom with very accurate colors that are just a tad more intense than portra and invisible grain. in the darkroom i got none of that red skin tone everyone talks about.
I don't know why everyone that gets it scanned has such a hard time with it (i don't usually scan my film) but the weird casts you got on your scan just look like they had incorrect color balance, it seems to me like some conversion software/scanners have a hard time with this film for some reason. But if you take care of those black and white points on the scans adjustment curves, you are gonna get beautiful results with that film, it has gorgeous colours
it's so interesting to me because I would assume that since this film was created in 2008, that Kodak would have made it the easiest film to scan (with the digital wave coming into photography) not the most difficult haha thanks for watching!
@@robertvonthaden It's a film for people who know what they're doing. Ektar is, as many put it, a slide film, but a negative. It's very particular, and you HAVE to make sure you convert it correctly and/or edit it. It's not a shoot willy nilly style of film.
Does Ektar 100 X still exist? Really liked to use that one when I shot film decades ago..
i haven’t heard of it! kodak’s line of still produced color negative film has diminished! thanks for watching!
Ektar is a weird one and you need to remember where and when it comes from. It was developed to have punchier colours and contrast as it was designed to be scanned on mid-2000s scanners that were competing with CCD sensors which also had punchier colours and contrast so the colour palette reflects more the technology at the time than most other films
Hi Robert, I really enjoyed this video. Ektar reminds me of my grandparents pushing the vibrancy scale up on their television to make everything "more colourful". More of a desaturated man myself but I was given three rolls of this stuff for Christmas so I'll shoot it later in the year. Can I ask what tripod you were using with your Mamiya?
I tried to love Ektar 100 in the bright midday desert earlier this year. Didn’t love it. Wished I did!
I feel the same! its a tricky one to work with, but too much for me.
Loved this video man!
yoo thanks so much bro!
Great video dude!
I just made a video about Ektar 100 as well. I love the colors and the slow iso for outdoor work!
thanks so much man! just subbed to your channel!
Looks too red. Is it a scan issue?
Ektar for sunny days, natural landscapes and wildlife, till the golden hour (I have a landscape at sunset, in the desert, that I really like, good reds there). Porta for cityscapes, people, less "sunny" environments... that's it!
that seems solid!
From what I've seen, labs kinda struggle with Ektar. Manual inversion has given me the best and most accurate results. In your results I can see some funky things going on with the red channel, too present in the lows and too absent in the highlights. Your whites should be white, but they are cyan since they lack red. Try rescanning it as a positive and invert it yourself or adjust the red channel. Ektar is much more neutral than people think but it's hard to scan. However I believe it's worth it some times!
hearing lots of this! thanks for the insight and for watching!
I love the ektar because technically if you wanted colors to be super realistic why not just shot digital, the characteristics stand out more
Don’t stop making videos!
yooo thank you so much man. really means a lot to get these comments when just starting out on youtube, thanks for watching!
Love your videos, thank you so much
thanks so much Rob appreciate the comment! means a lot!
I preferred the blues in the sky on the Ektar enough that I can forgive it for the reds everywhere else… and the red should be easily toned down in post.
I find that with ektar the blues can be really agressive and saturated. I prefer the portra shots over the ektar, even though i really like saturated colors the ektar color palate seems a little off.
totally agree! its just a bit off, atleast for my photos of what I shot! I think the only time I may wish I had ektar loaded in the camera would be if I took a shot of a red car!
ektar looks more fuji 400 to me with that purple/magenta cast.
I see that!
Pictures look good. I gotta say if I were out doing wildlife photography and some guy showed up with his dog I'd be pissed.
@@grahamhackett i put my dog back in the car before approaching the gentlemen with big lenses once i saw what was going on ( i’ve never seen foxes here, it was a surprise to me). after going back to the car, i got my dog out while one of the foxes followed me across the parking lot - far from the gentleman doing wildlife photography. all done with much caution and respect to what they were doing. thanks for watching!
in many ways this is painfully american
great photographs though, and i like the soft editing of the whole piece
wait til you see next weeks video…”shooting portra 800 at mcdonald’s”. appreciate the kind words man! hahaha
These film companies need to reduce the price of the films. Otherwise we will see the demise soon after this 'resurgence ' wave. Sad state of Kodak is that they give the brand name to anyone for money. In my country even kodak TVs are available😂
wow you got an unexpired film
Ektar 400 would go nuts
we needa get you a job at Kodak asap.
Ektar 800 😮
Yeah, that red is typical, that’s why we don’t use it here for portraits, people with darker skin get a very red face.
Ektar has always called for heavy editing when I've shot it. I love the way it looks once edited but it's often too much of a pain.
THIS THIS THIS is exactly how I feel, thank you!
That roll of Ektar you used was expired. Portra is optimized for skin tones. Just my 5 cents on that subject matter.
0:09 portra is better than ektar for skin tones! i just prefer portra for landscapes as well.
Ektar is a negative film that acts like a positive film. It is colder than Portra but the orange mask is denser than it so you need to edit that out. It’s the closest modern film to Kodachrome.
You don't scan film you print it !
it must be exhausting commenting things like this so often on a platform filled with content against your beliefs!