I will be getting Tormek T8 next year. I got my business license this year for knife sharpening business I have registered and licensed. I have been ordering accessories for Tormek t8 such as centring knife jig, wide centring knife jig, truing tool TT-50, currently use Worksharp MK2 elite grinding system for sharpening. I plan getting SB-250 wheel so that I can keep one wheel at 1000x and original wheel at 220x so that I don’t have to regrade wheel. Thank you for making this video as I was originally planning on getting diamond wheels.
Good Job, on this episode of "slow speed" Tomek, I appreciate all your video's, I don't know anything about making a video, it has to take time to know in advance what you're going to say and show how to do it, you have mastered it very well. Thank you for your hard work and time you put into making video's for all of us.
Im loving the channel. I just went to a tormek T8 from sharpening my knives on a TS prof K03. I use a worksharp w grinder adapter and free hand a bit well, but the im really liking the T8 overall. Im just a hobby sharpener w way to many blades that likes to experiment with different stuff. Your channel has got me thinking of sharpening as a side hustle to see where it can go.
Great video, I was one of those that let it sit in the corner till I came across your first video about CBN wheels. Thanks so much for sharing your experiences about sharpening!
I enjoy your videos and you give a lot of good information in them. Yours are the best i have seen on youtube. Thanks for all the information. Good job.
Tormek must have a love/hate relationship with you. I took a pass on purchasing Tormek when I started my side hustle but recently purchased one due solely to your recommendations. And because of your insight I ordered the ‘custom’ model (w/o wheels or tools) and added Tormek jigs and WW cbn wheels. Love it so far. Surely I’m not the only one that bought, or will buy, a Tormek on the strength of your recommendation. I picture Tormek or their distributors saying ‘I wish he’d shut up about cbn but man, look at the machines he’s moving’! You may well have them between a grinding wheel and a hard place.😁
LOL thanks they probably don’t even know I exist but I think the time may come that they may change their mind what’s interesting is one of the largest sellers of Tormek here in the USA is also one of the largest sellers of CBN so maybe they will be able to change Tormeks opinion but I don’t have anything against Tormek I love most of their things it’s more the fact that I think their core user for so long where wood workers and not sharpeners that they are a little slow to change and why would they? The have a machine that has needed little change over 50 years so as a sharpening service I wish they did somethings different and maybe in time the will change their views on CBN but if not I still love them and I own all the diamonds wheels as well and will just continue to do my own thing I sure hope they don’t hate me. I I own three T-8s so I have definitely shown my support for the great machines they make.
@@ALXSHARPENMaybe you could become a paid spokesman (secretly!) for Tormek since your willingness to take on something new obviously has no bounds! Appreciate all the info you provide, keep up the good work. Also, couldn’t help but notice that you upgraded all your 1x30’s with the lever nuts I sent you. Hope they turn out to be a good thing moving forward. Am currently working on a way to adapt sharpening rods to my Wicked Edge so as to sharpen serrated blades. Seems like an otherwise good platform to address serrations. Not having any luck at present but haven’t quite given up yet.
Hey Paul love your videos! I've learned so much as I'm starting my retirement side hustle. I've been searching for a video in your collection where you identify the hardness of the steel but haven't been able to locate one as of yet. If you haven't done a video addressing the grade/hardness of steel before sharpening, could you please do one? Thanks again for your continual informative videos.
That’s because is rarely and issue for me the only time I’m concerned with steel hardness is EDC’s that are made of one of the super steels when I get one of those I use my Tormek Diamond wheels but everything else isn’t an issue at all everything I use can handle any steel that’s on the market and thankfully no one’s making super steel kitchen knives yet and I honestly hope they never do.
Thank you very much. I always enjoy your videos. I wrote to Tormek Sweden the idea to built a t8 with 2 diamantstones and 2 waterbassins. So i van sharpen much faster than i do now. The told me that its not going to work because i you work on the one wheel the other one is probably in the way... i don't know what to think about it... so anyway i understand the problem with the speep on a rormek.thank you for your advice. Peter from Holland
If they made a machine wide enough that it could hold two stones and not even worry about the hone because so many of us do it on something else any way that would be great but they are basically catering to wood workers not knife sharpeners that's one reason I have always like CBN and grinding dry I could change the wheel out really fast anyway and just not use water. Now I just use two machines on the same tool box that way I can do a two stone wet or dry set up easy
It is normal to run 2 wheels on tormek at the same time. There is an adaptor you need for having the second wheel on tormek. And there is also adaptor to speed up the tormek from 90rpm to 125rpm. I am wondering why Paul does not use these two features. You do not need second tormek, just adaptor for second wheel.
@@daniel.rosina it’s not the norm but Vadim from Knife Grinders did it often an has videos to show how to do it. I have never tested it myself so can’t speak to how well it works I just went right to two machines. I also have never felt the need to run mine faster but I know it can be done. I like the current speed and if I need more stock removed first I use my 1x30s or 2x42 then sharpen on the Tormek
For catching dust, I use very strong magnets. I have them upon every machine (mostly on belt sanders). It takes cca 80% of dust. You can easily clean the magnets from the metal dust, when you pull a finger of latex gloves on the magnet (you pull that glove finger like a condom onto the magnet). Then, when you want to clean that magnet, you just need to pul the "condome" down (turning it inside out and hide that dust into it, throw it away...)
Hi Paul! I have learned so much from you and I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge and experience with newbies. I have become pretty good at sharpening with 1x30’s and now have my first restaurant contract 😊. I recently purchased a tormek T-8 and 3 CBN wheels (400, 800, 1200), but my results are not very good. Could you point me to any videos you have made about the tormek process so that I can improve? Thank you in advance. BTW, I liked your advice about diamond sprays, though I am finding that propylene glycol is much better than alcohol for keeping the particles in suspension and helping them bind to the leather in case you would like to try it.
If you go to categories I have many videos on Tormek sharpening that can help you. Thank you for the propylene glycol recomondation I tried for months to make my own suspension and it was really hard so I just kind of gave up I will definitely give it a try.
I just checked online everywhere and there's no 600 grid bcn stone. Where did you get yours from? your link does not provide it, only 400 and 1000 not the 600. Thank you
I'm heavily looking into getting a tormek t8 with cbn whels to sharpen knives. One of the things i was thinking on does the water help keep the build up out of the cbn? Have you ever tried any cutting fluid, CNC coolant, or anything else of that nature?
I have a video on cleaning CBN it's very easy you use this amzn.to/3BZ2uKP if you want to run wet amzn.to/3NE7M0F HoneRite Gold is a great option and last long do not throw it out I have used it for up to 3-4 weeks
I don't really need the speed to be faster on the sharpening end and even if you doubled it I can't see it keeping pace with what a 1x30 will do for you to make quick corrections and reprofiles. I am happy with its speed for sharpening it's very controlled it's just the getting to the sharpening that I need faster if that make sense.
I think you need to give a spray bottle a try again on your CBN wheels. I’ve been using a few spritzers on the wheel for each knife, there’s never enough to fill the trough even after a farmers market where I might do 50 to 100 knives
Hi Paul, at one point in the video you mentioned you got some mould on one of your stones. I have had this happen to me as well. Is it safe to put bleach on a Tormek stone to kill the mould? Now suspending my stone in a milk crate between uses but would still like to clean up.Thanks, Erik
I think I used lisol surface cleaner it’s milder than bleach if you do bleach I would Diluted it and maybe just 10 ,15 min in it yes tried storing my regular stones in buckets but you have to be sure the are totally dry now I keep them all open air on a shelf it’s just safer but I rarely use them since I own cbn and diamonds wheels
What a combination 200 and 600 grit be also good for high speed steel wood turning tools I was told by Harrison at woodturners wonders to go with a two and a four but I think I'd like a finer one so that I can do knives as well to a finer grit and then go to the leather strop
Okay, thanks. I was thinking of getting a 200 a 600 and a 1000 or maybe 1200 grit CBN wheel for doing combinations of turning tools and knives rather than using my wet stones, which are hard to change grit unless you have 3 different wheels which I do. At different coarsenesses, (is that a word), still you have to get them all soaking wet to work, which is a time consumer and a- mess
Yes I have all three Tormek diamond wheels but hate using them in the winter in my shop don't want to deal with the water when I can use CBN no water and be done fast and only down side is I need a mask but I don't care it's a shop I make dust all the time. Maybe one day Tormek will get on the CBN bus with the rest of us, but I guess the good thing is we save money because nothing with Tormeks name on it is cheap if the did make CBN wheels they would probably be $150 more than the rest of the world per wheel@@4056yates
Hey Paul I have been hand sharpening on stones for years, love the super keen edge I get but am looking to sharpen on a more professional level. Why a tormek and not just a 1x30?
I didn't know these were available. I've been wanting a 325g diamond stone for mine, but a cbn might be better. Do you know if it can sharpen carbide? I'm a woodworker and my local sharpening shop closed a few years ago. I know I can sharpen most of my router bits fairly well with the diamond wheel, but if the cbn will work, I might get that instead.
It's a Husky from Home Depot was only around $160 at the time I got them has worked great I did take the casters off mine and have mine on moving men sliders it's very stable and also at a better height for me. I am 5' 8" on the casters it was a little bit to high for me. I now run two T8's back to back on one toolbox. I would never buy the Tormek one either it's crazy expensive.
@ALXSHARPEN I figured that is what you bought. Thanks for the information. I can't decide whether to use the diamond wheels or go with the CBN wheels. I will be sharpening my knives, lawnmower blades, axes, and possibly stuff for family and friends.
I will be getting Tormek T8 next year. I got my business license this year for knife sharpening business I have registered and licensed. I have been ordering accessories for Tormek t8 such as centring knife jig, wide centring knife jig, truing tool TT-50, currently use Worksharp MK2 elite grinding system for sharpening. I plan getting SB-250 wheel so that I can keep one wheel at 1000x and original wheel at 220x so that I don’t have to regrade wheel. Thank you for making this video as I was originally planning on getting diamond wheels.
Good Job, on this episode of "slow speed" Tomek, I appreciate all your video's, I don't know anything about making a video, it has to take time to know in advance what you're going to say and show how to do it, you have mastered it very well. Thank you for your hard work and time you put into making video's for all of us.
Thank you for watching
Im loving the channel. I just went to a tormek T8 from sharpening my knives on a TS prof K03. I use a worksharp w grinder adapter and free hand a bit well, but the im really liking the T8 overall. Im just a hobby sharpener w way to many blades that likes to experiment with different stuff. Your channel has got me thinking of sharpening as a side hustle to see where it can go.
glad you like it
Great video, I was one of those that let it sit in the corner till I came across your first video about CBN wheels. Thanks so much for sharing your experiences about sharpening!
Thanks Ron
I enjoy your videos and you give a lot of good information in them. Yours are the best i have seen on youtube. Thanks for all the information. Good job.
thank you that's good to hear
This was very helpful. Thank you for putting this together.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Tormek must have a love/hate relationship with you. I took a pass on purchasing Tormek when I started my side hustle but recently purchased one due solely to your recommendations. And because of your insight I ordered the ‘custom’ model (w/o wheels or tools) and added Tormek jigs and WW cbn wheels. Love it so far.
Surely I’m not the only one that bought, or will buy, a Tormek on the strength of your recommendation.
I picture Tormek or their distributors saying ‘I wish he’d shut up about cbn but man, look at the machines he’s moving’!
You may well have them between a grinding wheel and a hard place.😁
LOL thanks they probably don’t even know I exist but I think the time may come that they may change their mind what’s interesting is one of the largest sellers of Tormek here in the USA is also one of the largest sellers of CBN so maybe they will be able to change Tormeks opinion but I don’t have anything against Tormek I love most of their things it’s more the fact that I think their core user for so long where wood workers and not sharpeners that they are a little slow to change and why would they? The have a machine that has needed little change over 50 years so as a sharpening service I wish they did somethings different and maybe in time the will change their views on CBN but if not I still love them and I own all the diamonds wheels as well and will just continue to do my own thing I sure hope they don’t hate me. I I own three T-8s so I have definitely shown my support for the great machines they make.
@@ALXSHARPENMaybe you could become a paid spokesman (secretly!) for Tormek since your willingness to take on something new obviously has no bounds!
Appreciate all the info you provide, keep up the good work.
Also, couldn’t help but notice that you upgraded all your 1x30’s with the lever nuts I sent you.
Hope they turn out to be a good thing moving forward. Am currently working on a way to adapt sharpening rods to my Wicked Edge so as to sharpen serrated blades. Seems like an otherwise good platform to address serrations. Not having any luck at present but haven’t quite given up yet.
Looking at Tormek now to add to my shop. Great tip!
I love mine I actually have 3 of them
Hey Paul love your videos! I've learned so much as I'm starting my retirement side hustle. I've been searching for a video in your collection where you identify the hardness of the steel but haven't been able to locate one as of yet. If you haven't done a video addressing the grade/hardness of steel before sharpening, could you please do one? Thanks again for your continual informative videos.
That’s because is rarely and issue for me the only time I’m concerned with steel hardness is EDC’s that are made of one of the super steels when I get one of those I use my Tormek Diamond wheels but everything else isn’t an issue at all everything I use can handle any steel that’s on the market and thankfully no one’s making super steel kitchen knives yet and I honestly hope they never do.
Thank you very much. I always enjoy your videos. I wrote to Tormek Sweden the idea to built a t8 with 2 diamantstones and 2 waterbassins. So i van sharpen much faster than i do now. The told me that its not going to work because i you work on the one wheel the other one is probably in the way... i don't know what to think about it... so anyway i understand the problem with the speep on a rormek.thank you for your advice.
Peter from Holland
If they made a machine wide enough that it could hold two stones and not even worry about the hone because so many of us do it on something else any way that would be great but they are basically catering to wood workers not knife sharpeners that's one reason I have always like CBN and grinding dry I could change the wheel out really fast anyway and just not use water. Now I just use two machines on the same tool box that way I can do a two stone wet or dry set up easy
@@ALXSHARPENthank you. And you have probably the best solution 2 tormeks.
Thank you again for your replay
It is normal to run 2 wheels on tormek at the same time. There is an adaptor you need for having the second wheel on tormek. And there is also adaptor to speed up the tormek from 90rpm to 125rpm.
I am wondering why Paul does not use these two features. You do not need second tormek, just adaptor for second wheel.
Hello Da, a did not know that. Thanks. Not even Tormek self did tell me this. Do you know where to purchase them?
@@daniel.rosina it’s not the norm but Vadim from Knife Grinders did it often an has videos to show how to do it. I have never tested it myself so can’t speak to how well it works I just went right to two machines. I also have never felt the need to run mine faster but I know it can be done. I like the current speed and if I need more stock removed first I use my 1x30s or 2x42 then sharpen on the Tormek
For catching dust, I use very strong magnets. I have them upon every machine (mostly on belt sanders). It takes cca 80% of dust. You can easily clean the magnets from the metal dust, when you pull a finger of latex gloves on the magnet (you pull that glove finger like a condom onto the magnet). Then, when you want to clean that magnet, you just need to pul the "condome" down (turning it inside out and hide that dust into it, throw it away...)
Thank you for watching I use magnets as well but also a down draft table and a shop dust collector
Hi Paul! I have learned so much from you and I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge and experience with newbies. I have become pretty good at sharpening with 1x30’s and now have my first restaurant contract 😊. I recently purchased a tormek T-8 and 3 CBN wheels (400, 800, 1200), but my results are not very good. Could you point me to any videos you have made about the tormek process so that I can improve? Thank you in advance.
BTW, I liked your advice about diamond sprays, though I am finding that propylene glycol is much better than alcohol for keeping the particles in suspension and helping them bind to the leather in case you would like to try it.
If you go to categories I have many videos on Tormek sharpening that can help you. Thank you for the propylene glycol recomondation I tried for months to make my own suspension and it was really hard so I just kind of gave up I will definitely give it a try.
I just checked online everywhere and there's no 600 grid bcn stone. Where did you get yours from? your link does not provide it, only 400 and 1000 not the 600. Thank you
The second link woodturnerswonders.com/collections/tormek-style-wheels/products/spartan-10-cbn-wheel-5-8-arbor
@@ALXSHARPENThank you so much for the link. I've just ordered 200 and 600 grid wheels. Appreciate it greatly :)
I'm heavily looking into getting a tormek t8 with cbn whels to sharpen knives. One of the things i was thinking on does the water help keep the build up out of the cbn? Have you ever tried any cutting fluid, CNC coolant, or anything else of that nature?
I have a video on cleaning CBN it's very easy you use this amzn.to/3BZ2uKP if you want to run wet amzn.to/3NE7M0F HoneRite Gold is a great option and last long do not throw it out I have used it for up to 3-4 weeks
Here is how to clean video ruclips.net/video/zhmtEIzJfxY/видео.htmlsi=YdFa_eyP6OVgQ5PU
Hi from Au - what about simply increasing the RPM with a sleeve installed on the drive wheel? Could this be an advantage in real terms?
I don't really need the speed to be faster on the sharpening end and even if you doubled it I can't see it keeping pace with what a 1x30 will do for you to make quick corrections and reprofiles. I am happy with its speed for sharpening it's very controlled it's just the getting to the sharpening that I need faster if that make sense.
I think you need to give a spray bottle a try again on your CBN wheels. I’ve been using a few spritzers on the wheel for each knife, there’s never enough to fill the trough even after a farmers market where I might do 50 to 100 knives
Thank you for watching
It looks like the tarmac has two sides can’t you put a wheel on each side?
Hi Paul, at one point in the video you mentioned you got some mould on one of your stones. I have had this happen to me as well. Is it safe to put bleach on a Tormek stone to kill the mould? Now suspending my stone in a milk crate between uses but would still like to clean up.Thanks, Erik
I think I used lisol surface cleaner it’s milder than bleach if you do bleach I would Diluted it and maybe just 10 ,15 min in it yes tried storing my regular stones in buckets but you have to be sure the are totally dry now I keep them all open air on a shelf it’s just safer but I rarely use them since I own cbn and diamonds wheels
What a combination 200 and 600 grit be also good for high speed steel wood turning tools I was told by Harrison at woodturners wonders to go with a two and a four but I think I'd like a finer one so that I can do knives as well to a finer grit and then go to the leather strop
600 if totally fine for most knives
Is there any reason you believe? A 1000 or 1200 grit CBN wheel would be useful for either turning tools. Or knife sharpening
@@4056yates I use 1000 cbn everyday for knives I start with either a 200 or 400 and finish on 1000
Okay, thanks. I was thinking of getting a 200 a 600 and a 1000 or maybe 1200 grit CBN wheel for doing combinations of turning tools and knives rather than using my wet stones, which are hard to change grit unless you have 3 different wheels which I do. At different coarsenesses, (is that a word), still you have to get them all soaking wet to work, which is a time consumer and a- mess
Yes I have all three Tormek diamond wheels but hate using them in the winter in my shop don't want to deal with the water when I can use CBN no water and be done fast and only down side is I need a mask but I don't care it's a shop I make dust all the time. Maybe one day Tormek will get on the CBN bus with the rest of us, but I guess the good thing is we save money because nothing with Tormeks name on it is cheap if the did make CBN wheels they would probably be $150 more than the rest of the world per wheel@@4056yates
Hey mate, if you had to pick only 2 cbn wheels which ones, i sharpen hand tools, kitchen and edc knifes, cheers
200 ,1000
Hey Paul I have been hand sharpening on stones for years, love the super keen edge I get but am looking to sharpen on a more professional level. Why a tormek and not just a 1x30?
I have each I like Tormek for high end knives and I get a lot of them here in Alexandria I like 1x30 for general kitchen knives
I didn't know these were available. I've been wanting a 325g diamond stone for mine, but a cbn might be better. Do you know if it can sharpen carbide? I'm a woodworker and my local sharpening shop closed a few years ago. I know I can sharpen most of my router bits fairly well with the diamond wheel, but if the cbn will work, I might get that instead.
Thank you for watching
9 months later....cbn can't sharpen carbide, diamond will
@@rowpaul4545 Thanks. I already found out and bought a diamond wheel.
What toolbox do you have the tormek on? There's no way I would pay 1K for a tormek one, haha.
It's a Husky from Home Depot was only around $160 at the time I got them has worked great I did take the casters off mine and have mine on moving men sliders it's very stable and also at a better height for me. I am 5' 8" on the casters it was a little bit to high for me. I now run two T8's back to back on one toolbox. I would never buy the Tormek one either it's crazy expensive.
@ALXSHARPEN I figured that is what you bought. Thanks for the information.
I can't decide whether to use the diamond wheels or go with the CBN wheels.
I will be sharpening my knives, lawnmower blades, axes, and possibly stuff for family and friends.
You should do RUclips shorts
I probably should I don't really know much about them
Shame that people are all about speed, one should enjoy the process...
Well if you are doing it as a business time is money so it's an important factor
When time is money, speed>enjoyment