Fight Club: The twist that no one noticed.
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Video Chapters-----------------------
0:00 Intro
1:28 What is Fight Club about?
2:09 What is Fight Club REALLLY about?
2:52 Real Name
3:40 Lies
4:05 4 Tylers
4:50 Cancer
6:39 Bob
8:24 Project Mayhem and Fight Club
10:15 Coffee
12:12 Marla Singer
13:41 Infectious Human Waste
14:35 Self Improvement is Masturbation
15:28 Paper Street
17:58 Phone
19:24 (Outro) Not Masculinity
Music:
-The Narrator - WHERE IS MY MIND COVER
-THE M0TI0N - Where Is My Mind - Retro wave Cover
-Leonell Cassio - A Magical Journey Through Space 🚀 
Развлечения
00:35 🔄 Fight Club's real twist is deeper than Tyler Durden being imaginary; Marla, Bob, Fight Club, Project Mayhem, and even the house on Paper Street only exist in Jack's mind.
01:31 🤔 The movie explores a man's struggle with identity and masculinity, stemming from a testicular cancer diagnosis, leading to the creation of personas like Tyler and Marla.
03:37 🔍 Visual cues, like slow zooms and inconsistencies, reveal instances when Jack is imagining events, providing evidence that much of the narrative occurs inside his fractured mind.
05:46 🔄 Jack likely suffers from dissociative identity disorder (DID), triggered by the fear of cancer, leading to the creation of Tyler and Marla as coping mechanisms.
07:14 🤯 Bob's death, Project Mayhem, and Fight Club are all products of Jack's imagination, with inconsistencies and symbolic elements pointing to their non-existence.
09:21 🌐 The elaborate network of Fight Clubs, Project Mayhem, and even the involvement of detectives is a construct of Jack's subconscious, serving as a validation for Tyler's perspective.
10:34 ☕ Marla's coffee consumption becomes a clue indicating Jack's dual life; her presence exacerbates his insomnia, reinforcing the idea that she, too, is a creation of his mind.
14:50 🔄 The peculiar visual style of sex scenes involving Tyler and Marla hints at Jack's internal struggle, where self-improvement is metaphorically portrayed as masturbation.
15:49 🏠 The house on Paper Street doesn't physically exist; it's Jack's mental safe space, and he actually resides in the hotel, representing a symbolic struggle for control between Tyler and Marla.
17:00 ⚖ The tension between Marla and Tyler reflects the battle for dominance in Jack's mind, requiring separate spaces to maintain the illusion of their individual existence.
17:29 🚻 Jack interacts with Tyler and Marla separately, only realizing their imaginary nature when ready; their interaction aligns with Jack's unconscious awareness.
18:15 🔄 Accepting one theory, like Bob not being real, leads to accepting all interconnected theories, such as Project Mayhem, Marla, and the house on Paper Street also being imaginary constructs.
18:28 📞 Inconsistencies with phone details, like Tyler's call on a pay phone that doesn't accept incoming calls and Marla's number on a small paper piece, reveal the fabricated nature of these elements.
19:11 🏠 The paper Street house phone and Marla's phone number are fictional, highlighting the movie's intricate web of constructed details within Jack's mind.
19:43 🩳 Fight Club is not about men regaining masculinity but explores the rejection of it. Jack losing his pants signifies the rejection of traditional masculinity, contrasting earlier scenes with Marla taking control.
20:09 🧠 Tyler represents a man-child manifestation, lacking emotional maturity, engaging in unproductive and immature behavior that doesn't contribute to personal growth or purpose.
20:37 🤔 The movie critiques the lost and unproductive behavior of men, showcasing the rejection of traditional roles without offering a constructive alternative.
Jack does not have camcer
Here’s the story. The entire story occurs while he is on an operating table. He is under anesthesia. The Xanax comes from a memory of taking it before going under, as that is commonly used just before surgery to calm people. Everything is an unconscious dream at the very moment he is having his Testicles removed.
The end is when the surgeon plunges the scalpel into the testicles and releases him from his manhood. The buildings coming down is the moment when he has lost his manhood. All structure is gone & he is left with nothing but a woman's hand keeping him from touching himself ever again.
He has no mental illnesses. He is sedated & his mind is trying to calculate how he will wake up. When the buildings fall and his manly structure is no more, he grasps reality (her hand) to understand he has another day to live but he his days as a man are over and her days are just beginning. #LlamaLogic.
There’s more to it but I'm right and you'll rabbit hole it until you realize I am
@@Daily_Llama cute.
@@dameanvil That's what I thought when saw it in theatres & that's still what I think. It seems obvious to me as everything fits. Even this video's interpretation fits within my theory. He is lying there thinking about how he got there, if he made right choice to opt for surgery & wondering who he is going to be when he wakes up. The figh ting is all about figh ting off the thoughts of who he could become after he wakes up. What's your take on it?
@@Daily_Llama that he is a nut imagining his friend while being a bit strange to the other people who don't question his strange behavior. but, indeed, fincher's version is quite a departure from the book. and when things are taken more in detail, marla is also imagined.
Bigger twist: not even the main protagonist exists. It was a movie the whole time.
Woah man you are blow my mind with this theory!
The creator of the book was on Joe Rogan podcast,so good episode, and all this was in the head of the protagonist that doesn't exist.Protagonist is you., watching the movie.Legendary stuff only.
😂😂😂😂
"Reality" itself isn't real. That's the real kicker.
Get the f... no way.... but... I mean... damn man..... mind BLOWN
Whether it's factual or not, the fact that you can piece together such a theory based on so many things in the film is what makes it such a masterpiece.
Agreed! I think the director took certain liberties to adhere and stray from the book in order to create his own narrative where ultimately the film is whatever you as the individual viewer believes it is. But so many great points made here in such a coherent and connected manner give it gravitas as a theory…
But why even get into an argument about subjective art from 1999? Where were you back then when people thought it promoted actual fight clubs @weiners
Fight club is a staple from my youth…loved the movie…rad soundtrack…loved the book more… nostalgia
Dropped in to say exactly this. Wonderful interpretation. It makes sense in a societal context. The introspective nature of humanity appears to be waning. The new generations are now so distracted they forget to find themselves. I know many who are afraid to even consider their existence. The concept scares them. To truly understand your place in the world, you first must face yourself. You must face your own mortality. Modern society has distracted us away from this. Without it, conditions like this (DPD) would seem to become more common. As humanity loses touch with itself the mind may splinter. Think of the "right of passage to manhood" in so many cultures. They had to face themselves and their own mortality. Modern men are lost and needing that passage.
Keep thinking hard.
"It's not that I am smarter, it is that I stay with problems longer." ~Einstein (paraphrased)
Absolutely this is writing at its finest. That's why it will forever be a cult classic.
You said there was nothing too traumatic in his life, yet his job is to look at brutally killed in car crashes corpses...
Actuaries are a MF
True. But regardless, this is a sound theory and actually makes the most sense
There weren’t actually bodies in the wrecked cars. He was never at a crime scene/at an accident site and likely checked out the cars weeks after initial crash when the bodies would have went to a hospital or a morgue. They don’t keep victims in wrecked cars indefinitely.
Edit: the other ppl he works with just talk about what happened, noting the details. There are remnants of fat but that’s not the same as a corpse.
DID tends to develop when you’re a kid, when they get traumatized, they don’t really have a way to cope with it, so their brain tries to by raising dissociative barriers like amnesia and switches altars so they can handle whatever trauma is being thrown at them!
"If I had a tumor, I'd call it Marla."
Counterpoint. There is some Jungian themes going on and Marla is Jack's anima. And he doesn't have testicular cancer, but organic brain dementia. Which is the one support group he reacts aggressively to when he and Marla divide them up.
He is going through a crisis as all these subconscious elements come out but he hallucinates it because of his brain disorder.
Yes! And the first rule of men's mental health is that you don't talk about men's mental health. Certainly moreso than testicular cancer.
The more I think about that the more it makes sense. That Fight Club is as much about men's mental health within societal roles as it is a critique on that society, fits the narrative techniques and stories far, far, far better.
He also says to Marla in the support division scene "You cant have the whole brain," perhaps (in the vids interpretation) telling us, again, that Marla and Tyler are battling each other for his sanity.
Yes! My point exactly.
You stole my comment....😂😂😂
What about Marla and not being fucked like that since 4th grade....
Also, don't all males have this collective unconscious myth about what masculinity should be like, when in reality we all the relatively amasculated like the narrator...
I like this theory because it gives the "we gotta get his balls" scene in the police station SO much more context. That's the main thing he's afraid of. Even when he tries to escape his fantasy of Project Mayhem by turning himself in, he still can't run away from the very real threat of losing his testicles. So that threat manifests as his own people trying to cut them off.
He isnt trying to escape the fantasy by turning himself in. Turning himself in and then losing control of project mayhem is him coping with the fact he is losing control of his mind. And at the end he finally accepts it and shoots himself in the head, with the last bit of control he has left. Alternatively, he isnt actually killing himself and even the gun is imaginary, and that scene is a metaphor for the narrator personality "dying" in the mind of a madman, along with Tyler, and him becoming, well, something else.
@@TheSuperappelflap Well said, it seems like it's a symbolic portrayal of the integration of his shadow, or at least a part of it.
@@TheSuperappelflap One way the movie improves on the book is the book makes that ending completely clear, or at least that the shot may not have killed him. Minor spoilers if you have any intention of reading the book.
Jack ends up in an assumed mental hospital getting treatment, but there are employees in the hospital who can't wait to have him back. The book also makes it clear the planned explosives were real, but never happened because he wasn't good at making them. It would be interesting to reread the book to see if there's any evidence that Marla is not real.
Holy sh#$ good point
I'm worried I was number 666 liking this comment 😮
I think that after walking down this rabbit hole for 24 years then suddenly realizing you haven’t even taken your first step is what makes this movie a masterclass piece of filmmaking.
It's quite an epiphany, isn't it? I saw the film in theaters twice when it was released, and a number of times since.
I didn't put it together like this. Sounds like it's time for another viewing.
Couldn’t agree more
It’s the Most impactful film on The Real world,it was a Movie,then Walked into Our Real world,it touched on something in society That Was Not Quite Right,and Oh yes How People cheered when Norton/Tyler Darden kinda changed the universe in his confrontation with his Boss...
The Lil Boosie drop made me subscribe. 🌚
@Guitarzen spoken like a true nihilist
Up to this day, this is Fincher's arguably best work by far. When I watched this movie for the first time, I was blown away. Then a couple of months later, I rewatched it and discovered details that made the story even more compelling. I love The Fight Club. Period.
You should read the book too
I remember when it came out, I was slacking at the university with no direction in my life. I went three times in the first week. I was blown away.
Yes. This and Se7en are Fincher's best!
All the different commentary tracks are worth listening to if you're into that. I also slacked at university.
Se🖕en is the movie equivalent of a lackluster director finishing on your face! Have some self-respect! That rejected ending doesn’t work retroactively with the (lackluster and contrived) scrimp, but no one notices bc brad Pitt yells a little bit. That movie is trash and it’s only been enshrined in creepy movie history bc the bad guy (Kevin someone) is so convincing as a crazy deviant and serial sexual predator
There is a point in the beginning where jack tries to confront marla in his mind and later when he actually confronts her, she says i saw u getting ready to confront me. This actually cements the fact that she was just in his mind
He could have been wearing his emotions on his sleeve when he was daydreaming about it. It never showed us what he was doing while he was imagining.
Finally an explanation for the scenes that always bugged me about this movie. He wasn't an underdog becoming super-alpha becoming humbled and free of his inner fight. He was a broken person from the begining to the end.
yeah anyone that acts like Tyler is his inner Sigma trying to wake him up needs to sit down
@@jamesmack3645 Tyler is him uninhibited. Not afraid of pain, of death, of losing people. Of being the kind of man that society rejects. Tyler doesnt need a society. That doesnt make him alpha or sigma or beta. The entire point of Tyler is he doesnt give a shit about that. The "is that what a real man's supposed to look like" line while looking at the boxershort advertising on the metro made that very clear.
Now of course you have numbskulls thatll say "thats exactly what a sigma male is" dont get the point. Tyler doesnt need a label. Tyler is just Tyler. He would punch you in the face if you called him a sigma male. Because that would imply he is conforming to some role, some stereotype of a man.
@@TheSuperappelflap This is some real ass shit
@@spintillimdizzy2340 where it gets really interesting is, that the conclusion is, that you do need some idea, some stereotype of what a real man is supposed to be. you dont want men to reject society and responsibility. so what is the stereotype that we should be trying to emulate? it certainly isnt one of the alpha/beta/sigma stereotypes that a lot of men are now classifying themselves and each other by. it also isnt the "metrosexual" stereotype from the 90s when this movie was made. its an open question, i dont really have an answer either, except that a man should strive to improve himself physically, spiritually, intellectually, and that you should seek to bear responsibility for others insofar as you are capable. on the other hand, other people should also make it worth your while to seek responsibility. its difficult to do the right thing in a society that actively tries to punish you for it. so just telling men to be better men isnt the solution either.
what Tyler represents is the complete rejection of this question.
@@TheSuperappelflapMy 20's have taught me the real meaning of being a man. Firstly, to get your head out of a stereotype. Be the person, rather than man you want to be. Be strong, apply your intellect, be wise, be kind, be healthy, be generous. Be opposite of what other men believe in. Greed, possessiveness, domineering, unemotional, judgemental.
The idea that Marla was a figment of his imagination was a red herring put in the book (and movie) to keep you from realizing Tyler was the alter ego.
Marla is THE most important character - she really is living Tyler's philosophy .. . .. ..
He calls his left hand, "Marla".
She's a, "stranger".
In the hotel scene, when both of them are going down the hall, you only see the narrator in the mirror, not Marla.
@@ericcouch hotel scene?
@@Freakazoid12345 when she calls him after overdosing and the police are showing up. There is a mirror in the hallway, as the two of them pass, she's not visible.
I was not expecting to have my mind completely blown
You expected your tiny mind would only get a handy with your twenty bucks, right?
@@JuanPablo-vz7xd what?
You thought having no mind would protect you, I'm assuming.
oh my god I actually love this theory and marla being jack's third personality would just make soo much sense
The doctor didn't give the sleeping pills because he believed that tyler would want to go the "easy way" out after his terminal testical cancer diagnosis
Exactly. Strong sedatives and etc. only after checking with psychiatrist. You right
Wouldn't it be a better end tho
@@savy1917you have to be pretty careful though with that kind of thing. Sometimes people beat cancer, their mental health improves. Some may find that preferable but there needs to be consideration not just for a vulnerable state of mind but who you allow to have that kind of power. Do you trust every doctor you meet? I sure as hell don't.
maybe, sometimes, but in many countries particularly the usa where this movie takes place thats not an option that you are allowed to take even if you wanted it. @@savy1917
@@aesop2733I trust very very few medical personnel at any level. They aren’t allowed to think beyond the limitations of the fda, hospital manager, insurance masters, etc and unfortunately for all Americans the limitation on the top and bottom, left and right, begin and end with big Pharma…
This movie was pre 9/11 and you could absolutely get your boarding pass without an ID. I used to do it often.
Glad my childhood was in the 90s pre 911.
Back when air travel didn't suck
@@c.f.pedraza4057Kids will be saying the same thing about being a kid pre 2020/COVID.
Hunter Thompson flew home with his .357 magnum inside his satchel in the "Fear and Loathing" book. But not in the movie.
@@MrStimpson38it’s true holidays have really not been the same, halloween especially, and not just holidays really everything seems off it’s weird as fuck
Triple plot twist: everyone is real and they are playing an elaborate prank on him
Nah, that's The Truman Show
You put an impressive amount of work and research into this. Great job!
In 1999 you didn't have to show ID to fly, or buy a ticket, for domestic flights. Hell, you could walk right up to the boarding gate and if they still had open seats, hand them cash and get on the plane. Also, his boss gave him coupons, not tickets, and when you redeem the coupon you can put any name on it you wanted to. The rest of his ideas show a similar level of "impressive" research and thought.
LMAO he literally made it all up
I watched another RUclipsr who discussed this exact same twist, but this video goes deep and shows the extent of how fractured the protagonist's mind is.
Great minds think alike 🤓
can you link that video as well ?
Please link the other video 🙏
Vid
Which youtuber you talking bout? Can you please send the Link or say the title of the video? I would love to watch that video :)
Him saying it all comes back to Marla is a reference to how she invaded all his support groups, pushing him further and further down the rabbit hole to get relief
@@georgec5212 if your church wont help you maybe it's you
Marla and tyler were the only white people at the sickle cell meeting. I think the theory is bunk for ball cancer.
this video is stupid and bad and relies on logical leaps that would be a difficult task for superman
@@georgec5212 okay we're in Las Vegas and you're in the Indian sea
They weren't his support groups. He was faking it. And wanted to deprive someone else from getting catharsis tge same way he did
Beautifully put. I've been trying to tell people about some of these things for years because I watch this movie like once every two weeks. When I was like 15-17 I was kind of stuck in a house in the middle of nowhere with no internet access or a phone and just a small box of movies, so I would throw this one on a lot as background noise while I tinkered on things. It's become kind of a comfort thing, as odd as that sounds.
You have Stockholm Syndrome and your abuser is a mediocre movie about how consumerism neuters men until they are transgender. Question everything you feel to be true but seek trust and help from a treasured loved one, like your mom or a therapist who specializes in deprogramming Stockholm syndrome victims
We are a quantum entanglement.
Marla's number ends in 0134. Tyler's business card shows his number as 0135.
Close, but unfortunately not the case. Tyler’s ends in 0153, and Marla’s ends in 0134.
ever look up the numbers dialed in movies ...
I did find it interesting about how Cancer is mentioned a lot in the movie: “If I had a tumor, I’d name it Marla.”
I also find it interesting how the narrator “Jack” uses every single aspect of every support group he’s attended to build up Fight Club. From the language. “I look around and I see men. We help each other” / “I look around and see a lot of new faces.” To how each of them interact with each other. I think Chuck Palahnuik modeled a lot of his characters after Travis Bickel in Taxi Driver. A lot of the characters seem like they’re a mirror image of him.
Interesting perspective, I can see it too.. I felt there’s a little inspiration from Jeff Spicoli too..
Wasn't all the support group names that, the narrator (Edward Norton used,
"all" Martin Scorcese characters/influenced?
Ex. Travis (Travis Bickel)
Rupert (Rupert Pubkin)
Cornelius (Martin Cornelius Aemilianus Scorsese) etc.
Another thing I noticed is how the female narrative is used.
In the first part you see “Jack” going to the support group for testicular cancer. Most of the men (aside from the narrator Jack) have lost their testicles to cancer thus emasculating them. One man talks about his former fiancée in which she has moved on with her life and had a child leaving the man to reflect on his loss.
In the second half we are introduced to Marla, the poster child of toxic feminism (if only in the narrator’s mind).
Then we are introduced to Tyler who is the opposite of all of that who asks the question: “I wonder if a woman is what we really need?”
All of this paints a picture of why Fight Club exists.
@@sstaners1234 he was unable to connect with people that's why he went to the support groups, he was in love with Marla but couldn't come to terms with it because Tyler was in love with Marla, in the end he realizes the fake connections to people were real even though he was a pretender
@ uutuu - I was thinking Travis as in Travis Bickel
Rupert (Murdock)
And Cornelius from the planet of the apes.
Palahniuk wrote this book based on some events in his life. It started as a story about people being uncomfortable with traditional masculinity, but he has said that it ended up more like a song. Where, the listener (observer) is free to interpret it in their own way. It's like a poem, where your interpretation is a mirror into your own mind. That being said, I really dig your interpretation. There's a very deep, thoughtful, and empathetic angle to your assessment. That is exactly what Palahniuk was going for. Well done, sir.
Dude stole this video from one done about 10 months before it:
ruclips.net/video/py2mxl6xTus/видео.html
the word might be allegory
Thank you!
FINALLY....at long last...another person who read the book!! You made my day!!!
(and now I'm sad again, cuz this is the high point of my day) 😔
Just kidding, lol, maybe my date won't stand me up 2 nights in a row? 🤷🏻♂️
Any-who.....
I have almost all Chuck Palahniuks books and have read most of them,
(on my way to reading them all,)
and he's SOOO fuckin talented.
All of his books mention castration in some form or another too.
(Hmm. Weird.)
But, yeah.....
he's exactly what male readers have needed for so long: a male author,
i.e. a male author who behaves male,
who writes FOR other males,
who is a bad-ass male role model,
who is unapologetically masculine.
Every other book you read feels like it could've been written by a woman.
Or like it was written FOR a woman.
NOT CHUCK!
You read FIGHT CLUB and you just know
this was written by a dude:
A dude who jerks off.
A dude who fights.
A dude with testosterone.
A dude who's in touch with his inner-dude
and as such, he is displeased with all of the feminine estrogen-pumped pussy-ass men in 1990's society,
(and have grown in numbers since then,)
but at the same timeㅡChuck Pㅡthis primal man is also educated, witty, and enlightened to a certain degree.
Anyway, done rambling, just pleased to find a fellow reader of FIGHT CLUB cuz he's my favorite author.
@@Pete-Prolly RIGHT up until watching this, I've always considered the film to be style over substance considering the source material. Love certain aspects of the film but it missed the mark as far as the book as its screenplay.
This is genius and shows Finch to be a genius too!
It's not even his best book.
Really cool instrumental cover of Where is My Mind going on in the background here.
YEAAAAAH!!! You noticed it too!!!! 😃😃😃😃
I'm so stoked I stumbled on this video! This is one of the coolest interpretations of this movie I've ever seen. Hats off dude this is top notch content👏🏻!
It's definitely not the conclusion of the book, but fits in with the movie bits. I was never really sold on Marla being real (mainly because of being a traffic-ghost), but you did make it plausible that Bob wasn't real too. And whether it deals with testicular cancer or not, I'm surprised you didn't include the iconic: "If I did have a tumor, I'd name it Marla" when mentioning those bits.
may i ask what is the conclusion of the book?
Why not read it for yourself to enjoy the satisfaction of the knowledge you're asking a stranger for? @@AmramGames
There’s a lot of differences in tone of the movie and book. The movie was unironic in its “men need this” assertion. The movie was ironic. Subtlety, but ironic. A commentary. I wouldn’t put it past one of the team making this.
@Peter Caldwell he didn't think he was in heaven he thought he was the leader of a rebellious freedom faction and the orderlies were a part of project mayhem who were in the asylum with him.
@@AmramGames Another difference to the book in general is scale, the movie dials everything up to 11. Never felt quite right from a realism perspective, which this theory helps out. Ending specifically is one of the bigger examples.
In the film, they blow up 7 credit card headquarters, they manage to clear all the buildings, it goes off perfectly. One of my favorite ending scenes, but the context of this theory makes it work better.
In the book, his hairbrained scheme is blowing up just the one skyscraper, with himself in it, thinking that he'll get it to fall just right and destroy the museum just down the road. Bomb fails, he gets locked up with the outcome Peter Caldwell laid out
This is mind blowing. I always thought it was weird that the two guys saw someone beating themselves up and decided to join in.
Yes, or a woman entering a cancer pacient supporting group with a lit cigarette on her mouth blowing smoke, and nobody shouting her to leave.
@@fernandomaron87i thought about it too but found a reason, she could say her husband Has cancer and she wants to understand him from other perspective
It's s very compelling video. I may have to watch Fight Club again with this new lens.
Thanks for making me think about a movie I thought I already knew so well.
This video raised more questions than answered.
The woman behind the counter at the used clothes store does interact with Marla. She looks at her dead in the face and hands her money. Then the woman looks in a different direction, towards Jack, when he says he wants bowel cancer. Was that whole scene part of his imagination too or there were two people actually there?
Also when Jack tries to talk to Marla for the first time, they are not outside the hotel as mentioned in the video, they had just walked out of the support group meeting.
Who gave laxatives to the pigeons?
Why do the driver and passenger airbags deploy when they are hitting the cars?
The fight club cops aren't real? What about the detective and the apartment explosion investigation?
The IDs and security in the rigged buildings not real?
Is Jack the only one picking up random fights for the "fight and lose" assignment?
Lou and his bodyguard walked into the basement and said "who told you mothafuckas could use my basement", was Jack alone? Was that all imagination?
Did jack blow up the art installation, trashed the coffee shop and painted the giant smiley face all by himself?
The waiter at the restaurant looks at Jack and Marla separately and takes the food order from Marla. Was that imagination too?
I literally watched the movie dozens of times and I am still finding new things and enjoying it.
I remember one of my coworkers telling me that he thought Marla wasn't real like Tyler. Then I told him that if that was the case, we really don't know if the majority of things that happened in the movie even happened.
Yup.
That's usually the problem with unreliable narrator movies or rather, their interpretations and critiques.
Basically, it often boils down to "...wHaT iF nOtHiNg'S tRuE?"
Of course it's not true it's a movie.
“It was all a dream.”
@@phishinround420 Used to read Word-Up magazine
@@nich0la5 I feel like the people speculating what's real and not in a fictional universe might be losers
Chronic insomnia can cause a psychotic break too. If you've ever experienced it the way this movie portrays disassociation and hallucinations rings hella true.
Like Tyler is just way off the deep end with it. A movie, cartoon character version of a real insomniac.
That’s true, when I was 17 I took speed for a week straight, was being chased through my village in my head. A friends mum called an ambulance and I spent a few days in hospital. Never gone through again 25 years later.
Multiple personality is not a real mental disorder.
People pretend to be other people all the time, sure.
But yeah, obviously this was all brought on by sleep deprivation.
@@Freakazoid12345 People pretend to be other people all the time, sure, but DID is definitely a real thing LMAO.
I'm not sure about a psychotic break, but I do know 4 weeks doing a 2200-0430 sleep schedule with little to no time to eat and being in mostly constant motion did have me seeing things when I finally had the time to sit down. Black streaks looking like legs standing up that tilted whenever I did. It was disconcerting to say the least.
@@beneathawell "DID is definitely a real thing LMAO" ?
What is that based on?
Being gullible and watching people on youtube act out things that only exist in movies and scam children with anime profile pictures?
DID may exist in textbooks and to a small degree in behavior, but there is nothing like the way Fight Club or movies portray it.
You're wrong if you think that is the case.
edit: lol, why am I wasting time on comments on a channel full of idiots?
I stumbled upon this, it brought back all the discussion and thought my friends and I put into this movie. For the record, it's very nice to hear someone else saying the things I was saying at the time. Clever analysis, keep it up... keep it right up....
Please remember that "Fight Club" came out pre-2001. This airline procedures for boarding we not as strick as it is today.
To piggyback off of the points discussed in this thesis, note I haven't watched the film, what counter example Disproves that Tyler is actually the Host personality. In otherwords, what if the Narrator personality was made to take in the information about cancer, but the original personality is really Tyler D's?
I'm typically not a fan of "all in this character's head" theories, because how easily they could be applied to literally any work of fiction renders them meaningless, but this was well thought out and went much deeper than simply stating it was a dream. Very convincing case.
The only thing that makes "it's all in his head" justifiable is that Jack is directly shown to be imagining Tyler. It's like when you introduce magic into a world, if you know magic is real, then magic could be the answer to some questions while in other world that would be unheard of
I think even David Fincher watching this would be like "How the f did I do this??"
All works of fiction do start out as just in someone's head. However, not all of them get written down or turned into a movie.
I think it works in this case, because it doesn't ruin the story, it doesn't make you go "then what's the point", instead it transforms the story about a dude becoming a terrorist to a story about how a mental breakdown looks like. The inner workings of a mind, like looking into the brain with a microscope and watching the engine break down. A train wreck given human form.
Love how you evoked literally to help validate your flimsy claim, you can apply whatever you feel, that doesn't make the concept universally applicable
It’s easy to overlook how Fight Club begins amidst the chaotic firing of the Narrator’s very synapses. In fact the entire title sequence is a virtual fly through, zooming out from the inside of his head. I think this almost blatantly illustrates the location from which his story truly unfolds. You give a fine analysis of a brilliant film. 🥴👍
and the song, the pixies “where is my mind“
I agree, and I like your comment, but why'd you have to use that God forsaken emoji lmao
Woow
I've pointed this out to friends for years!
It starts in the fear center of the brain
actually, bc this was before 9/11 you didnt need to have an ID to purchase a plane ticket and could tell them whatever name you wanted. plus those plane tickets that we see were after he left his job. fun video though
"Don't deal with it the way those dead people do this is your pain here & now,this is the greatest moment of your life and your off somewhere missing it!" This theory just what "they" want people to think fact is Fincher really screwed up with this movie Tyler Durden was supposed to be the villain instead he kind of turned into anti-hero cult figure.Movie came very close to exposing the FED Reserve,when it talks about erasing the debt record AIPAC alert.this movie 1st Time I ever heard word ground zero applied to toppling buildings 2 years before 9-11.
Once a friend of a friend was supposed to go on a trip involving a short flight -- LAX to SFO to be specific -- but he got sick. The tickets were non-refundable at that point so he just handed them to me and nobody ever challenged it. Of course that was a good decade before 9/11.
I've seen Fight Club upwards of 70 times and this is one of the most brilliant interpretations of the film I've ever seen
Do you have insomnia as well?
I agree 100%
70 times bro? Tf?
@@asues420 Yeah, freshman year of high school I got sick and missed like 40 days of school and somewhere in those 2 months I watched Fight Club every day for 30 days and watched it plenty of times since then (I'm now in my 30s) so I'd guess my view count is somewhere above 70. I actually haven't seen FC in a few years and this video makes me want to take another dive.
@@bobjohnson1096 Nope. Sleep like a baby
Fight Club wasn't about masculinity, that was simply a part of the ingredients. It was about how men are treated in modern society and their path, how the end up, dead end job, Ikea, fast food, no friends. The novelist wrote this as an illustration into the male disease all men fall for; the disillusionment of expectations.
Damb
Yes we have been living in a gynocentric society for like 40 years now. Men are even more unhappy than back in the 90s
It’s ABSOLUTELY about masculinity. The whole thing.
Again. Written by a gay man, wrestling with his identity in the modern world yes. And at the focus of that. Masculinity.
@@bostonteapartycrasher Actually, men now report being more happy than in the 90s. Coincidentally more men are not married. Women on the other hand, have never reported being less happy on average. So we have finally gotten to the point where the whole thing is coming full circle. Not that thats going to change anything because women dont care about logic and statistics. But it is funny. By trying to completely emasculate and put down men, they have in the end mostly hurt themselves.
I never knew he was gay! It makes a lot more sense now.
Now I must watch this movie again with these concepts in mind - brilliant video!! (I'm actually watching it now with your observations and concepts in mind, and the film I thought I knew so well is new and exciting again)! My whole disposition tonight has improved after seeing your video - TY.
Dude, mind blowing masterpiece. I think you nailed it. Adds yet another depth to the story. Great work
I expected some generic take we’ve heard a million times, but it’s very refreshing to be caught off guard w/ a unique perspective that works on every level.. I’m gonna watch the movie again, because this gives it a new life.
Another stupid "It was all a dream" theory. How the heck is it fresh? Every story ever has a "it was all a dream" and "they are in purgatory" theories. They don't need any proof, just show something that's not consistent and boom, it was all a dream. This is the most overdone theory ever.
@@mapu1 except it actually makes sense in this case.
@@mapu1 “it was all a dream”
I kind of feel like you didn’t watch the video, or zoned in & out while viewing it- because, the theory(a couple, out of numerous examples of this theory being worthwhile) about Cancer, the name Tyler Durden being… I’m just saying, you’re not being charitable at all, not in the slightest.
now I understand why people came over when he and Tyler were fighting in the street. Since Tyler isn't real, I would avoid someone beating the shit out of himself on the street.
@@DarkSideOfTheBrightSide The problem is that the theory creates a bunch of other plot holes. Like if The Narrator is Tyler Durden and everything is written out to Tyler Durden, why is Marla's medication written out to "Singer" instead of Durden if they are the same person? Or the "no one interacts with these people. Except for here, here and here" argument. It's like "Here's my theory, but the movie contradicts it, but you can't trust the movie so my theory is still valid". Or when Bob dies. "how were they able to bring him back? Because he's not real". But then nothing was real, so nothing mattered. He's just tying straws together, claiming that the movie's plot holes or whatever strengthens his theory, completely disregarding his own plot holes. His theory also makes the movie so much less interesting to watch.
Wrong. You did not need ID for flights until 9-11. Movie was made in 1999.
spot on--I am Jack's 1990's nostalgia
It was great to party like it's 1999
No way chael sonnen is still watching fight club theory vids😂. Did you imagine the chael persona too
@TornadoOfSouls777 I been saying the same since 1999
"Were gonna (Fill in blank) like it's 1999!"
Jack never lost a round
Fascinating vid! You've earned my sub. I'm not sure if I buy your theory just yet, but you've given me a lot to think about! Nice one!
Great video ! All of your points make sense and I have watched a few fight club analysis videos and I enjoyed yours the most !!!
Another theory could be the whole movie is the narrator experiencing death. Durden keeps trying to get him to “let go” when bob sees the narrator after he stops going to the classes he says we all thought you were dead. The biggest hint towards this is the ending where he shoots himself in the head and “survives” the world then collapses around him
This actually gives alot of credit to how much detail and cues were put into this masterpiece of a movie.
TRUE‼️‼️ SO TRUE‼️‼️
Not to take away from the details but at 5:27 that prescription is so out of wack.
300mg of Xanax? In one pill? One swig of bourbon and you're breathing stops.
Unless it's XR 3mg and there is 100 tablets, simply not possible. The only logical explanation is 100 3mg XR tablet's..
It Was! A book bro
And the protagonist does not ask for Xanax (Alprazolan) which is a benzodiazepin derivative used for anxiety. He asks for Tylenol (paracetamol) which is used to treat pain ("I'm in pain") or Seconal (Secobabital) which is used for treating insomnia ("I can't sleep"). So no, he is not asking for a treatment for anxiety.
The book was amazing.
Wow. Quite incitful. I've heard a couple of these theories, but you wrapped it up. Kudos
Great video and this theory is awesome .. its nice to see there can be even more to a story/movie that i could have missed and can now see it in another light
I've always considered this possibility of Marla and everyone in Project Mayhen to not be real... but never took it this far down the rabbit hole... great work my friend!
This. Exactly the same here. Always 'knew' it, but never spelled it out.
tyler thought marla and tyler might have been the same person.
The twist was Tyler was 2 inches shorter so Marla couldn’t handle the truth
@@brainfloss9710 cause it’s a cop out. Obviously any movie could be “oh they just imagined it the whole time” but it’s lazy if done poorly. Joker did it decently but it was obvious. The movie Filth does a better job at hiding the twist than fight club if you haven’t seen that jakes Macavoy really captures darkness and despair with the crazies thrown in.
like 10 years ago it was considered one of the main twist too, i remember reading about it everywhere
Very well done! Never saw this but Marla and Bob always stood out to me based on the subtle lighting differences and could never figure out why. You've sold me!
Fight club is my all time favorite! This video added so many angles to an already twisted web of imagination! So many pieces that I completely missed and I look at this movie with even more appreciation than before! It’s hard to argue any of these points..everything fits perfectly..amazing job piecing this together!
You know someone's full of shit when they start defending their point before they make it...
Another detail, the narrator gave his house number to Marla because he hadn't gone to the paper street yet. However, Marla called the paper street house even though she didn't know the number there, because it was never given to her.
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Didn't he give here the business card?
Good catch!
Another thing with the phone at Paper Street, which has *always* bugged me, is how did the detective get the number for it? I always put it down to an off-screen interaction, but this theory would play into him never having done it, on or off screen.
You left that forwarding number, remember?
I've watched fight club at least a hundred times, without exaggeration at least a hundred times. Ive read dozens upon dozens of essays on it, watched a tonne of reviews, explainers, etc etc.
This is, by far, the most succinct, well put together analysis of the film from this or any other angle.
You spoke well, at a good pace, chose great clips, edited it fantastically and used great bg music.
Well done. 10/10.
Absolutely! I'm in a similar position and have nothing to add to that. 👌
I was just about to add a 'finally, someone gets it!' then I read yer comment. I couldn't agree more
No you haven't
@@scrappyanimations4096 how can you tell? That's just 5 times per year over a period of 20 years and when you love this movie and watch it 2-3 times a year (maybe only as 2nd screen or while doing chores or work at your PC) and in addition to this you show it to 2 other people (on an average) you meet per year who still haven't watched it before - easy af. No problem.
Do you also think that Tyler split because he actually had ball cancer? Cuz that's dumb
Wow🎉🎉
Out of all the explanations, I've heard and read. this one is the best
I watch a lot of these critiques/analyses, and I've got to admit, this is one of the best I have ever seen. Well done.
I get why you probably didn't want to add this in, but Bob's casting and physical attributes seem to directly personify his fear of emasculation on an entirely visual level. The preconceived answer to the syllogism he is wrestling with the entire story.
I've been teaching this since the DVD came out. There are a lot more hints in the book as well. MARLA Singer is an anagram for ALARM Singer, and you'll notice the alarms, sirens, phone rings, and bells (to tell you to buckle your seatbelt on the plane) are always going off with Tyler/Marla. :)
Alarm Ringers
@@FlexyourmemesAlarm Siren G 😂
Alarm Signer?
I wish we could be learning about this dvd in my school! 😭
correlation does not equal causation. you are teaching bullshit.
You forgot to mention that Marla had even invaded his original safe space in the ice cave when she showed up instead of the penguin. Also, the lye incident when Jack attempts to go to a safe space but Tyler refuses to let him, because Tyler knows Marla already has control over those.
"I need a woman, they're ruining everything." is what I heard a lot in that movie and from analysis.
@@PumpkinSpicePretzels if that's all you heard you obviously weren't listening.
@@PumpkinSpicePretzels more like government and corporations.. But both of them would love to put the average man against the average woman and hope they are both too busy fighting to realize who the real enemy is.. If you're safe from threats from the other side of the world and the other side of town... They need to give you a new threat from inside the dating pool or your own marriage
@Random Offensive guy yep
@@PumpkinSpicePretzels As that was never implied at all in this analysis.. I suspect you heard it cause that is what you want to hear.
This is a brilliant analysis. One of my favorite films just got even better! I watched this video some months ago, but on my second viewing, tonight, it just makes me realize how amazing Fight Club actually is.
I’ve still only seen Fight Club one time, way back when it came out in theaters. This explanation is very thorough, articulate, and well-presented. Will definitely give me a clearer perspective on my second viewing. Kudos.
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I had the same suspicion that Marla wasn't real when she effortlessly walked through traffic. In regards to your theory, I dig it. I guess if it _IS_ about testicular cancer or "how I learned to stop worrying and embrace demasculation", does this mean the buildings collapsing represent his phallus being taken down (and the last image in remembrance of his lost member/masculinity)?
It was 2 buildings, right? So his balls.
@@adambandurak8913 the corporate art destroying a Starbucks…a round object being removed from its normal place = losing a testicle
Marla represents chaos so I believe she is real.
@@sasquatchhunter86 only thing about this theory that disturbs me is the similarities with Freud's theories of sexuality, it feels basic, unsophisticated, psych 101 on shrooms typesht
@@youknowwhoyouare2269 that is still okay. At least the peanut gallery will get it... eventually. Anything that can get people to think about things bigger than themselves is a "plus".
This weird new wave synth non vocal version of The Pixies “Where Is My Mind” is quite fitting. Well done!
Probably this one? ruclips.net/video/v01q01LbWzI/видео.html
A good teacher in college when i was studying anthropology taught me a very important lesson. When you confront a text (in this case a movie), you have to separate what the text tells you and then your interpretation. You need to have the two. But you can't pass your interpretation as the text. Perhaps this is a lesson you need to take for yourself.
God damn it. That was a lot to think about.
Good job. I've subscribed.
Not sure if any of this was intended by the movie or the book, but it sure is a fun and well thought out and explained theory. Good job
It wasnt. This is pure fanfic
I am not saying that you, but certain people, seem to forget that the director of a film can change whatever they want about the story they turn into a movie... There are plenty of examples where a director takes an amazing story and creates something almost completely different and equally appreciable to watch. Brilliant job by Fincher and by the guy posting this video.
@technologicalsociety you can download the screen play and read it for yourself. We're not dealing in hypothetical, speculation or conjecture. This "theory" is not in any version of this IP.
Reminds me of how all of Kubrick's movies were interpreted flawlessly through looking at his scripts. Now I understand.
I actually Love this video maker's idea here. It's grounded, it can be evidenced. And the Chuck doesn't have a monopoly on interpretation.
Just like a song maker doesn't have a monopoly on a song's meaning. During the time any individual accesses any media or context, they themselves can ascribe meaning to what they just registered.
I have been a raging fan of this flick since 1999. I've got the actual promotional bar of glycerin soap right here by my desk in a case and a 1st printing hardcover of the book has been on my bookshelf for about 20 years now. And there was a lot in this video that I hadn't given consideration to before. Such a strong case made here for many of these points and a great way to go back and re-examine the material. Great, great work on this video.
What stops someone from making a copy of it and passing it off as the original???
@@moonandstars1677 I'm going to have to assume now that you mean the soap and not the book after wracking my head as to why anyone would actually consider the effort for that 🤣. I suppose if someone really wanted to copy the mold and then ACTUALLY sit around and make Glycerine Soap with the FC logo, they could. But A) it would be a ridiculous thing to put any effort into and B) they'd have to basically also figure out and copy it's original packaging, wrap style and printed matter that was included. Not impossible, but again - a ridiculous thing to target to a limited audience for a bill or two. I suppose there is SOME prop-replica basement dweller out there who would try. I mean hell - paper street soap company business cards have been available for download online for 20 year or more now, sooo.... 😂
@@imj3688 Good luck at trying to get the supplies to make soap also 😛
@imj3688 Im just curious, how much does that soap go for on ebay these days? Did you ever read the fight club 2 comic books?
@@louispconstant6624 Exactly. And that was my point - someone is going to try to make glycerin soap with the right mold and the right pink dye lot, etc JUST to counterfeit a movie promo?!?!? Better to just buy one in this market if limited FC collector's, lol
MINDBLOWING!
Great point of view, it tottally make sens, I love it!
Thanks bro!
Awesome video and totally on point. I definitely missed this true twist, thank you!
You can also support this idea with the scene Jack talks with his boss and thinks himself those were Tyler's words coming out of his mouth. And right after that, Marla calls him to attract him to the feminine side again. Whenever Jack is going one side, the other side is trying to reach him by either a phone call or an action.
I want it to be real otherwise it seems like he is an incel
Great idea and I love your thought. Enough to write it down and re watch the film!!! hehehehe
Yes, I also noticed when he speaks to bob , the graffiti on the wall says “myself” all down the wall in back of him ….wow !
What is truly fascinating about the film is how it is written filmed and edited. The slow burn and subconscious elements that are subtle yet directly placed in front of you as the viewer, both audibly and visually. The actors portray their characters like they believe they are individuals and the director blends Jack's experiences in a way that leaves the viewer trying to comprehend each of the scenes and the dynamics and complexity of them all while moving on into the next part of the story so quickly the viewer has little time to process what is real. Brilliant film in every way! Great analysis and theory!
I also feel like the subliminal messages hint towards mass consumerism. The ikea, the starbucks, tyler durden flashing in and out like some commercials and movies actually have done (albeit less consciously noticeable) specifically for sublimal marketing purposes..
@@jellabean yes. If I remember correctly, there are also 2 or 3 frames where a word appears. That's a clear link to subliminal messages. It ties into the idea that society has used media to subconsciously destroy the idea of a man and turning it into something to be despised and bad by definition, giving only short term material gratification for it in return.
@@lukearts2954 i forgot about the words that pop up! It's been years since i watched that movie but I've seen it sooo many times and analyzed it a lot lol i need to watch it again. But yeah, i agree with you 100%
One of my favorite movies of all time I have to admit I never seen all those things you brought up, but they do all connect. Very very good.
Fight club isn’t just Nietzschian, it’s also Jungian. Marla is Jacks anima, his repressed feminine shadow self. The end of the film is him integrating this part of his personality and also accepting and becoming the Ubermensch, aka Tyler. It’s about him integrating the powerful and repressed parts of himself into a cohesive whole.
Interesting take
But one of the points of this theory is that Tyler is a child throwing a tantrum, which is the opposite of an Ubermensch
@@ionutgrigore7110"Tyler" is the Baby, yeah.
But I guess the comment refered to the Narator as he exepts himself to be the actual Tyler.
Aka "Jack", "Marla" and "Tyler" all integrated to form the Übermensch-Tyler
@@MegaMido29 oh i got it now, jungian indeed, very good take 🤔
this this this! so glad you said this. i love jung.
The things you own end up owning you. I’ll watch this movie 100 more times just to hear that line.
Real talk
It's an extremely valuable insight. Thank you for reminding me of it.
look into buddhism
I also love that line another way I've heard it said is from a song by phoenix..it says " We let our possessions posses us too"
The movie owns you.
BRAVO, that totally went over my head all this time until now!!!
Already took it there in my mind....you ,Sir, took it ALL THE WAY THERE!!!!❤
His doctor doesn’t tell him to go to support groups for people with terminal illnesses. First he tells him that he “needs to lighten up”. After being denied medication for his insomnia and narcolepsy, Jack tells him that he’s in pain. His doctor then responds by saying “you wanna see pain? Swing by First Methodist on Tuesday nights and see the guys with testicular cancer. That’s pain…”
So if his doctor is being dismissive about Jack’s situation and tells him to go see people who are actually dealing with real problems so that Jack can get some perspective on things; then Jack clearly does NOT have testicular cancer.
But your theory is otherwise very interesting. I like it. The mind exercises that are made possible by this movie are what makes it so good.
If we accept the narrative that Jack wasn't able to accept his testicular cancer diagnosis when he was first told, he could have created the plausible scenario for why he might be visiting that group instead. Especially if we view Bob as the manifestation of his grief with his diagnosis.
@@ConfuciousDragonif you accept that bs, NOWHERE in the movie does it say that he has cancer of any kind, this guy just made that up to create a false narrative that his opinion is truth when it’s clearly wrong
WOULD a Dr - a REAL Dr. - do that, though? Tell a rando patient to go play voyeur in a sufferers' support group just to gain perspective? That sounds pretty EW to me!
That slow zoom on Tyler's face happens before this convo takes place. Given what we've seen, this means that the convo with doc wasn't told by a reliable narrator.
@@tsp988 The convenient plot device of an unreliable narrator unfortunately makes everything presented in a book or movie up for grabs. He could have cancer and just be in denial. The whole movie could be in a snowglobe in some kid's head. They don't mention it but that doesn't mean it isn't a possibility. That is also the unreliable narrator's biggest liability- you can't trust anything being shown or told once that hand is played.
20+ years after watching this movie and enjoying the hell out of it and realizing so many layers existed...still more to see and watch for....thank you for this.
One of the best analyses I've ever seen - every bit of it rings true. It's frankly the only scenario that makes sense in all the details. Nicely executed.
EXCELLENT video.
Deserves faaar more views, sir.😁❤
I think the secret to Fight Club is that most of these interpretations are valid and thus no single answer can be true. Fight Club, I have learned, means so many things to so many people and the truth is the answer that works for you. There will be some people whose truth is men being stripped of masculinity and so they see a call to arms. For others, it's about Tyler being the easy path and the one we need to fight against. Personally, I feel your version is my new truth now that I see it. That doesn't stop anyone else from having their own truths, just that you gave me a new one...
I've read a number of books by Palahniuk and this interpretation is probably closer to the author's intention than anything else I've heard. A brilliantly devious mind.
@@Napalm6b So that's why Chuck Palahniuk , himself, describes Fight Club as a "love story"? The book is a simpler work of fiction from the very trendy and popular at the time transgressive literary genre. I tend to take what Palahniuk says regarding this piece at face value. Sure, there's pithy social commentary along the way, but at the end of the day it's about two damaged, mentally broken, world weary people finding each other. Now, as far as the movie is concerned, all bets are off until I rewatch to validate this theory. The movie and the book are ultimately separate pieces of work to be evaluated on their own merits.
The Secret To Fight Club is that it isn’t a very good movie. It really just sucks. I was in a fight club king before this movie and when it came out my other friends started calling the cops on us. Also, my college roommate raised his own personal army by creating a communist club based on this movie’s rhetoric, 200 deep. Also my exGF started a soap-making operation with her bff…? and everyone missed the gender-identity politics all together somehow? For real. And how did none of you know Marla isn’t real?! Article A Dildo is on her dresser!
I didn’t say king, that’s some sort of autocorrect. The only Kings I will ever recognize on this earth are tekken characters! Armor King, Wang Jinrei (Wang mean King yo)
@@percyblok6014 I think Palahniuk said that as a satisfying concise answer to an interviewer and an audience. In a sense it's totally reasonable and correct but it is incredibly reductive. All those other layers of commentary are what make the story interesting. I get the same feeling reading the great Philip K Dick books. Yes the core of the story can be very simple but it's the complexity of the larger world characters inhabit that make the story compelling.
Rewatched Fight Club after this video and it dawned on me that when Jack and Marla exchange numbers it was before his condo blew up. So he would have given her his condo number. So how then weeks later would she call him out of the blue at the paper st house? She would not have had that number. This seemed to lend a little more credence in my mind that she was a fiction of his imagination. Well thought out video, really had me searching for clues on a rewatch.
He would’ve called her in his alter ego mode first. The exchanged numbers remember. He had hers.
Assuming the paper house is real, he could have just asked the phone company to transfer his line to the new location.
She says he left a forwarding number
There's still one scene that really seems to contradict most of this theory. The scene where Lou comes down to the basement of the bar. He acknowledges "everyone" down there and mentions them a few times. So either Lou is also a figment of "Jack's" imagination as well, or at least some of the other members of fight club, and hence project mayhem must also be real. It's possible that the idea of fight club may have attracted at least a few actual members besides Jack/Tyler? Or as I said, Lou himself is also not real. But that doesn't really add anything to the narrative if that is the case though? I guess this scene may just remain one without answers that will continually bug me every time I watch this movie. Still a great watch either way though! Cheers!
He left a forwarding number. She literally says that in the movie.
It all makes sense now. Glad this video popped up in my feed.
That’s a great fucking analysis my man. Thanks for taking the time to explain to the rest of us❤
Great analysis. Surprisingly you didn't mention the culmination of project mayhem. The destruction of the bank buildings resetting the debt clock.
The financial reset and the ending of the movie is about returning the male/female norms of society, which is symbolized by Jack (Now one with Tyler Durden) holding hands with Marla Singer as they can reset their lives.
The destruction of Jack's apartment started his relationship with Tyler Durden just like the destruction of the bank buildings will start his relationship with Marla Singer.
For some reason I never looked any deeper once it was revealed that Tyler was imaginary. That's odd. I must have been satisfied with the twist and left it at that. But after your hypothesis, my mind just got blown again like it did back in the day when the film came out! Thank you sincerely for that!
You stop looking because you were supposed to. The video is fan fiction. Read the book.
@@ChicCanyon Can't make me.
@lookupverazhou8599 you are correct. I cannot make you less gullible.
@@ChicCanyon Nice straw man.
Yup, mind blown twice now. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
This is really good. Thank you, I enjoyed it very much!
I bet, even the writer says: “Huh… I see you digging deeper into my subconscious! Well done!” 👍
This has to be the best analysis video about Fight Club I've ever seen. I try to find something new every time I watch it but you had so much detail with things like the human waste that I've never seen on an easter egg list. Bravo, instant subscribe from only seeing one of your videos.
Plus, the vaporwave version of "Where Is My Mind?" Playing throughout the video was the cherry on top.
I was wondering why I watched this movie so many times and it never really made sense. I think I caught it in parts (the in the house, the guy seeing them fight, all his jobs, the guy behind the bar) but was never able to put it together like that. Mind blown
Same. Something about this movie has always bothered me. I couldn't find the issue. I wasn't seeing a message how others would tell me they found. It turns out the only issue was Tyler himself.
I have watched this movie so many times. I thought that I had it all sorted. This has completely reinvigorated my thoughts on this movie. I never considered the testicular cancer angle. And I never considered that Marla wasn't real. It's now clear to me that Bob's breasts are also a sign of Jack's lost masculinity.
Ah yep
I think I remember reading that Bob's shirt is the same as the one melted in the car seat at the accident investigation which is how he came up with him. Also the 'toy' he finds at Marlas apartment is the same as the one security found in his bag.
This was really well done and thought out. This is an interesting way of looking at it.
I stumbled across your video after rewatching FC today after many-many years since the last time (back in college, around 2012) and having a similar thought about Marla character. Not sure about the testicular cancer thing but I’m also convinced that she is defo a part of the narrator’s mind, as seen from many examples you have provided and other hints/story in the film.
Wow! Before this analysis, I had always seen FC as a love story, where 'Jack' had to get rid of Tyler, to be able to have a healthy relationship with Marla. And in a way, looking at it from this new perspective, that still is a valid point of view. The only difference now being that a healthy relationship with Marla now means coming to terms with his diagnosis.
The followup graphic novel, Fight Club 2, seems to support your love story theory as it begins with Tyler and Marla married with a child. Tyler (Jack/Narrator/Whatever) goes off his meds and Tyler capital T comes back. It gets super weird and bizarrely meta after that, but thats how it starts.
@@ohheyemmiThat's the reason Marla emerges victorious in the end. Feminism challenges male dominance in this story, with the narrator Jack portrayed as a vulnerable character who faces health challenges. This movie, ahead of its time, foreshadows contemporary woke themes. Initially, I enjoyed this film, but as I grasped its deeper meaning, I decided to halt it. It made me question everything, much like the movie itself - a Fight Club of imagination.
There are a couple of Jungian terms that might add some insight: anima/animus. Marla is the narrator's anima (or inner female) and Tyler is his animus, or inner male. That's why at the end the narrator got rid of Tyler and was making peace with Marla. His original male self didn't need a second animus. He only needed to work it out with his anima.
@@khaolamnoi2023A movie you enjoyed but stopped enjoying because of a made up ideology you sprinkled into the meaning of the film, both pitful and funny. There is no war between femininity and masculinity, you only join it once you think it is real.
God this movie's been blowing my mind since I saw it decades ago, and you still blown my mind. Congrats.
Really? Really? Your mind is really that blown by this crap? Well then, my super-smart friend, have I got a book for you 😀Catcher in the Rye is what it’s all above it, yo! You know how all the pretentious asdholes in your life are all a bunch of, like, phonies? This book is just for you! You really GET IT!
@@JuanPablo-vz7xd nah, "The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs" is what he really needs.
He blew your mind with a poorly constructed argument?
@@thomgizziz Well you are not blowing my mind with YOUR argument... Since I get my mind so easily blown (apparently), what does that entail about your argument?
Not gonna lie. At the beginning i was rolling my eyes but you made a lot of good points. Really good points. This is probably the deepest analysis I've ever seen of this movie. I'm glad i watched it. Fantastic job.
This is Brilliant! I am totally convinced this analysis is correct. Bravo!
The twist in "The Others" was legit. I love that perspective and how it throws you for a major loop.
For me the twist didn’t shock me, it was pretty much what I guessed abeid it was a pretty cool idea if hadn’t been for the 6th sense. I remember after the sixth sense there was a whole bunch of movie all trying to mimic that twist and naturally when I watch The Others I went in with the suspicion that Nicole Kidman was the ghost.
@@fangkc Yeah, I totally guessed that was the case without knowing there was a twist... I think it was the way she spoke or intereacted. It fel off (I have not seen it for a long time). It wasnt a surprise. Worst thing is if you expect a twist, you can usually guess what it is I remember seeing a trailer for The Village and guessed the twist in about 5 seconds. Fight Club I never saw coming. Also Dusk til Dawn completely threw me. Then you have stuff like Seven and The Mist (Although I am not sure if the ending count as twists).
The "Other" I found to be supe4 predictable. About 12 minutes in I knew the twist.
@@charly03090309 for some reason, I just never assumed they were in like the 1800’s or whatever period it was suppose to be. I just kinda thought they were some modern folk that preferred to live with the old ways, so the surprise for me was that it was suppose to be a surprise. Fight Club was mind blowing for me, but then after Fight Club these multiple personality twists also no longer able to surprise me, not that it has to surprise me to be enjoyable, in a way these really incredible film has trained us to be looking for subtle and nuance in films, so a poor attempt really pulls it off.
@@fangkc i hadnt seen the 6th sense or knew the twist of said movie, but still predicted the twist in the others pretty early on
Anyone else also notice the neon light turns off as soon as Tyler grabs the beer from Jack? As if his lights are on, then they turn off as soon as his alter ego takes control. @ 12:31
Excellent video and well laid out argument for your theory!
I'm convinced. Excellent argument and great video. Thanks for posting.
"Masculinity is about using frustration and energy to be productive." That speaks to me.
Actually masculinity is a spook and isnt real its an imagined concept that holds power over individuals, real max stirner free yourself of spooks
I was immediately reminded of the lyric in Pantera's 'Mouth for War'...
"Been constantly so frustrated
I've moved mountains with less
When I channel my hate to productive
I don't find it hard to impress"
Good point. Wise concept.
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Wow. Excellent cross referencing drawn from a stored memory.
It makes sense that this video, and this creator doing work on this level on an alternate channel, would attract unusually intelligent commentary