Jordan Peterson turned me from a hedonistic, nihilistic atheist who was single, unemployed, and living with my parents to a responsible, disciplined, optimistic Christian who is now happily married, employed, with a child on the way. He completely shifted my worldview. Making meaning my goal as opposed to happiness changed everything. Developing the humility to accept incremental change changed everything. Becoming open to religious ideas changed everything. God bless this man. I shudder to think where I would be without his influence on my life.
faith and trust in God is still the most important thing as a christian :) everything peterson speaks is really important and true but i think he left that point out :D i feel like christians today are too self reliant so the main message of the bible kinda gets left out
Before I knew Jordan Peterson, I was a 4 time college dropout. Since I started listening to Jordan Peterson in 2017, I earned a STEM degree from a top 5 University in the field, raised my salary by 600%, advanced through 4 jobs, switched my career, and fixed my marriage. I took the heaviest rock I could lift and lifted it. Thanks Dr. Peterson. To all the cynics in the comments, your snark only prevents you from fixing your own lives. I’m here to share good news and inspiration. If you choose to deny your own potential, that’s up to you.
@@justin-claudedumont4091 Peterson most likely sourced this from Dostoyevsky. “Every man is not only responsible for what he does but what everyone else does”. They both likely sourced this from heroic characters in mythology and religion which all have stories where someone bears the weight of the world on their shoulders or something similar.
What a shame to have 2 people who do not know God personally talking about Him and His Word out of ignorance because they are spiritually blind. JESUS told Nicodemus "you must be born again". Nicodemus was a scholarly leader. 😮
Years ago i saw this mans lectures and shed some tears. Now im 7 years clean, married, with kids and my degrees. All started with this guys words. Whatever he sells im buying.
@@oscarriley9265For one, he went against everything he ever taught when he supported the apartheid state of Isr-el’s tyrannical and evil treatment of the Palestinians. That’s a big stain that’s hard to overlook.
TIME STAMPS 0:12 - 1:03 Daily attire and suits. 1:03 - 2:18: Guest's reasons for wearing suits, including respect for students and setting professional boundaries. 2:18 - 3:50: Discussion on guest's public speaking tour, suit designer Dimitri, and audience reactions. 3:50 - 5:01: Exploring the concept of "wrestling with God" and the significance of words in shaping reality. 5:01 - 7:31: The role of language and words in creating reality, the significance of the word "Israel," and the importance of moral decision-making. 7:31 - 8:22: The Sermon on the Mount and the importance of aiming for the highest good. 8:22 - 9:55: Balancing between order and chaos, and how meaningful experiences arise from this balance. 9:55 - 10:48: Discussion on Elon Musk's existential crisis and his pursuit of knowledge. 10:48 - 12:12: Addressing the cultural conflict between nihilists, atheists, and true believers. 12:12 - 13:53: The value of psychedelic experiences and reflections on the reductionist perspective of religion. 13:53 - 15:59: Exploring the depth and meaning behind religious stories and symbols, including the concept of memes. 15:59 - 18:39: The story of Moses and the burning bush as a metaphor for personal transformation and responding to a calling. 18:39 - 19:10: Introduction to the hypothesis of the burning bush being a DMT experience. 19:10 - 22:02: Discussion on psychedelic experiences, their cultural significance, and how they amplify intrinsic interest and perception. 22:02 - 25:07: Discussion on John Marco Allegro's work on psychedelics and ancient texts, including his controversial theories. 25:07 - 27:10: The relationship between psychedelic experiences and religious practices, and the secrecy surrounding these practices. 27:10 - 30:24: Exploring the role of the pineal gland and its symbolism in various cultures, including Catholicism. 30:24 - 32:02: Discussion on the significance of psychedelic experiences and their potential role in human evolution and civilization. 32:02 - 34:34: Discussion on Terence McKenna's "Stoned Ape Theory," the evolution of human consciousness, and the role of psychedelics in early human history. 34:34 - 36:00: Discussion on the impact of the 1970 Controlled Substances Act, targeting civil rights and anti-war activists, and the cultural shift from the 60s to the 80s. 36:00 - 37:10: Exploration of 1960s automobile designs and their cultural significance, contrasted with 1990s cars. 37:10 - 38:47: Connection between creativity in the 1960s (e.g., music, car design) and drug use, particularly psychedelics, and the stifling effect of the 1970s crackdown. 38:47 - 41:01: The potential benefits of psychedelics, especially for trauma treatment, and the issue of outdated laws prohibiting their use. 41:01 - 43:00: Discussion on the importance of responsible use of psychedelics and the balance between freedom and order in society. 43:00 - 45:00: Reflection on Timothy Leary's message and the consequences of uncontrolled psychedelic use in the 1960s. 45:00 - 46:01: Comparison between the need for social structure and the dangers of unchecked freedom. 46:01 - 47:00: The role of enlightened responsibility in society and the concept of "enlightened responsibility." 47:00 - 48:47: Biblical references to Abraham and the call to adventure as an analogy for personal growth and societal stability. 48:47 - 51:23: Discussion on the balance between individual freedom and social cohesion, using the biblical story of Abraham as an analogy. 51:23 - 53:00: The importance of having a goal and how positive emotion is tied to progress toward a goal. 53:00 - 55:01: Discussion on Abraham's story and the idea of sacrificial transformation for personal and societal growth. 55:01 - 56:02: The concept of sacrifice in religious and personal contexts, and the role of sacrifice in establishing community. 56:02 - 57:00: Exploring the deeper meanings behind religious stories and the role of sacrifice in personal development. 57:00 - 58:00: Reflection on the necessity of accepting life's challenges and the concept of sacrificial love. 58:00 - 1:00:17: Discussion on martial arts and personal growth, emphasizing the role of discipline and obsession in achieving goals. 1:00:17 - 1:02:03: The importance of having a goal and how it drives positive emotion and progress. 1:02:03 - 1:04:03: Discussion on the transformative power of pursuing a goal and the sacrifices required for personal growth. 1:04:03 - 1:07:01: The story of Abraham's transformation and the idea of ultimate sacrifice in personal development. 1:07:01 - 1:08:35: The concept of the good parent and the role of sacrifice in parenting and personal growth. 1:08:35 - 1:12:00: Exploration of the concept of eternal life through the works of great individuals and the idea of transcending time. 1:12:00 - 1:16:00: Discussion on the deeper meanings of religious symbols and stories, particularly the concept of sacrifice in the story of Abraham. 1:16:00 - 1:17:57: Reflection on the importance of embracing life's challenges and the concept of voluntary acceptance of suffering. 1:17:57 - Discussion on the concept of religious experience and the importance of confronting life's challenges to reach one's full potential. 1:17:34 - 1:18:56: Discussing the concept of courage and confronting life's horrors voluntarily, leading to personal growth and strength. 1:18:56 - 1:19:59: Pause for a restroom break and transition into discussing Peterson Academy. 1:19:59 - 1:21:17: Introduction of Peterson Academy, an online educational platform aimed at providing high-quality university-level education at a fraction of traditional costs.
1:21:17 - 1:22:55: Addressing the crises in higher education, including ideological biases and the spiraling costs of student loans. 1:22:55 - 1:24:03: Discussing the potential of RUclips and Spotify as platforms for independent commentators and educators, and how universities missed an opportunity to leverage new technology. 1:24:03 - 1:25:04: The experience of professors from prestigious institutions who feel mistreated by their own universities and the promise of Peterson Academy to offer them better opportunities. 1:25:15 - 1:26:12: Introducing the subscription model for Peterson Academy, which includes a $450 yearly fee to maintain a high-quality and responsible social media network. 1:26:12 - 1:27:00: Detailing the high production quality of the courses, using advanced AI for illustrations and backgrounds, and showcasing a trailer of the courses. 1:27:00 - 1:28:03: Highlighting the enthusiasm of professors involved and the unique presentation style for each course. 1:28:03 - 1:29:10: Discussing the potential for certification and formal accreditation for the courses, while maintaining high standards and avoiding ideological biases. 1:29:10 - 1:30:55: Explaining the challenges of accreditation and the focus on providing reliable certification directly to employers, ensuring students' work ethic and intelligence. 1:30:55 - 1:32:53: Exploring the potential global reach of Peterson Academy, including the use of AI to translate courses into multiple languages. 1:32:53 - 1:34:35: Discussing the possibilities for lifelong learning and community building through the platform, and the potential for in-person conventions. 1:34:35 - 1:36:15: Emphasizing the innovative use of technology in education and the challenges of traditional universities to adapt. 1:36:15 - 1:37:07: Analyzing the social and financial benefits of Ivy League education, including networking and social experiences, and the potential to replicate these benefits online. 1:37:07 - 1:39:16: Addressing the decline of traditional universities and the ideological capture by certain forces, using the Mesopotamian myth as a metaphor. 1:39:16 - 1:40:50: Discussing the fundamental human conflict represented in myths like the story of Cain and Abel and its manifestation in modern ideologies. 1:40:50 - 1:41:56: Reflecting on the challenges of overcoming bitterness and resentment, and the importance of maintaining faith and courage. 1:41:56 - 1:43:30: Describing the capture of universities by ideologies and the resulting impact on education and society. 1:43:30 - 1:45:11: Discussing the challenges of addressing systemic issues in universities, including the difficulty of implementing reforms. 1:45:11 - 1:47:19: Exploring the deep ideological roots of current issues in academia and the impact of historical and philosophical ideas. 1:47:19 - 1:50:55: Analyzing the psychological and social dynamics at play in modern society, including the influence of ideological forces and the role of sacrifice in community building. 1:50:55 - 1:54:30: Considering the implications of AI on society, particularly in education and employment, and the ethical concerns surrounding its development and use. 1:54:30 - 2:00:02: Discussing the alignment problem in AI, the role of religious and humanistic education in shaping values, and the potential consequences of AI systems influenced by modern ideologies. 1:59:34 - 2:01:13: Peterson emphasizes the importance of setting high goals and aligning actions with noble intentions, which he links to religious practices that guide moral development. 2:01:13 - 2:03:04: He contrasts maturation with immaturity, arguing that true mental health comes from harmony with one's future and society, criticizing moral relativism for ignoring this. 2:03:04 - 2:05:00: Peterson advocates for traditional humanities and religious education, stating that biblical stories help structure our understanding and provide a unified cultural framework. 2:05:00 - 2:08:01: The discussion critiques postmodernist and Marxist views on power dynamics and victimhood, describing them as overly simplistic and harmful narratives. 2:08:01 - 2:10:30: They explore the dangers of the victimhood narrative, particularly in gender identity issues, warning that some may exploit victim status for malicious purposes. 2:10:30 - 2:14:14: The conversation covers the influence of upbringing on behavior, noting the importance of positive role models and the challenges posed by negative environments, especially without a father figure. 2:14:14 - 2:15:00: Peterson stresses the role of fathers in promoting responsible behavior and social development, highlighting the need for supportive social structures, particularly for young men. 2:15:00 - 2:20:00: Jordan Peterson discusses the impact of his book "12 Rules for Life" on young men, emphasizing the importance of responsibility and how it transforms life into an adventure. He uses the story of Bilbo from "The Hobbit" to illustrate the concept of taking on responsibility as a heroic journey. 2:20:00 - 2:23:30: Peterson talks about the media's role in damaging reputations, using examples like the Kathy Newman interview. He describes encounters with journalists whose intentions were to entrap and destroy reputations for personal gain, highlighting a broader issue within journalism. 2:23:30 - 2:27:00: Discussing the personal and professional consequences Peterson faced due to his views, including the threat of losing his license and being mandated to undergo re-education in Canada. He explains the costs and legal battles he has faced and his determination to fight against what he perceives as ideological imposition. 2:27:00 - 2:30:00: Peterson criticizes the current practices surrounding gender dysphoria treatment, particularly for children, describing it as dangerous and unethical. He shares anecdotes and expresses concern about the long-term impacts of these treatments. 2:30:00 - 2:33:00: The conversation shifts to the broader social implications of these practices, including the underground market for puberty blockers and the denial or minimization of the issues by some people. 2:33:00 - 2:34:30: The discussion concludes with an overview of the courses available on Peterson Academy, including topics like symbolism in Christianity and the boy crisis, highlighting the unique and high-quality offerings. 2:34:30 - 2:35:00: A brief preview of Peterson's course on Nietzsche's "Beyond Good and Evil," which delves into the influential philosopher's impact and ideas.
I met Jordan in Nashville and the first thing he did was complement my suit. I told him this was my first suit as an adult and it was because of him. He smiled and we took our photo
I'm a 73 year old woman. Been a huge fan of JR for over 12 years. This may be one of the best and most meaningful episodes ever for me. Joe's rant about psychadelics is fabulous. Heard it all before but he put it altogether so succinctly today. I've already bought Jordans book! Looks fascinating! Massive gratitude for both these wonderful men. And for living in a world where so much free knowledge and wisdom is available to us all. 🙏💖
@@zazeel1 joes a liar. He’s never even done psychedelics. He’s admitted to never taking a full tab of acid. Also admitted to never taking a full dose of mushrooms. I’m sure whatever dmt he’s had was just some sort of inhaler or something. If this man experienced true ego death it would crush him.
being so curious at your age is a blessing, and shows how full of life you are. much respect, madam. We are, indeed, living incredible times. may God allow you to continue your quest for knowledge for many years to come.
Thank you Rogan for having brought Peterson on the podcast. You opened my mind to the possibilities of life and how mysteriously beautiful it is. And Peterson brought me to God. Specifically to Jesus. Thank you to the both of you. 🙏🏾
There was a moment in my life that nothing made sense, a Sunday morning , I was into another episode of depression, I started looking online, for some help, while navigating the web, I saw a video of a guy talking about some rules for life, everything he said resonated with me, I literally started cleaning my room, of course it was not dirty, but I opened the drawers and start putting away things,I did the same with my papers, pictures, my drawings, letters and birthday cards that I had in my closet for years…tearfully I understood what he meant, since that day my life is different I took control of my actions, and saw everything good that I had around me, but mainly what can I do to make my life better, I will be forever grateful to Dr. Peterson.
Jordan's explanation of Abraham is one of the most profound explanations of this story I've ever heard. I pray that future generations know about Jordan -- he is a gift from God.
Jordan’s off the cuff meaning of life was incredible. -What’s the meaning of life? It’s the meaning that reveals itself when you take the pathway of maximum responsibility. Thank you Mr. Peterson
If you seek God with all your heart you will find him. You don't need any drugs or mushrooms at all.... just patience and hunger. Your desire to know him alone is the desire God put in you.
Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.
Ive said this over the years ina few comments but jordans first book coupled with scripture helped me through the depths of addiction and nihilism , self hatred and the verge of death. I am forever in debt to Jordan, god bless him. Many , many years mr. Peterson ! ☦️ Edit/Reply : Thanks for all the love guys, and to answer some questions I ment his first big book 12 rules for life. It helped me beyond measure , but I had to implement what Jordan says word for word, no procrastinating. I cleaned my room, then my house, then my mind, then my body, and relationships , then my life. Now I'm over a year sober and my wife and I are trusting and loving better than ever, also our first child , a boy , will be born in 4 weeks! God is good!!!
"Assume the person you're conversing/debating with MAY know something you don't" This one sentence Jordan Peterson said...of everything I've watched from lectures to podcasts changed me profoundly. I would always try to win when debating or just waiting for my turn to talk when conversing with someone. Now I actually listen to people...I really listen to them...the result I feel is that I've grown so much as a human being since then. A deeply sincere thank you to Jordan Peterson.
Subconsciously I’ve been doing this for years when talking about things I actually know a lot about. It doesn’t go as well as you imagine. Still the loudest asshole gets his part said.
Or assume they don't know something that you do. I've learned to ask "have you heard of this?" when discussing an obscure topic, or " have you seen this movie, heard this song, etc?" when making references.
I love that their relationship allows them to skip the formalities and go directly into the heart of the matter. Within 3 and a half minutes, Joe asks the question, "Do you wrestle with God?" That shows Joe's comfort and willingness to invite Jordan's response, that he knows will be a daunting journey of self exploration.
really?! i think it has more to do with a fact that you just watched a 3 hour commercial for Jordan Peterson. "Their relationship" cmon, that wasn't even an actual show.
Bring Jordan back for more episodes. Love this man. Love his mind. Love how he speaks. He is an example of how we should all try to live our best lives, always search for the truth, always try to raise ourselves up and those around us .
What's that, tell you not you use protection. Jp taught you to do what animals and the rest of humsnity have done, even without fathers. Wow, you are easily MK's ultra+
OMG. This is mind blowing. I was already a Jordan Peterson devotee, but I had no idea Rogan was this thoughtful. I only wish I could know everyone commenting here. You are my people.
@@calebwalsh8382 looks like a sweaty mess. He literally is having trouble putting his thoughts together. Sits there with his eyes closed and hands in constant motion while he stumbles ..
At 1:53, really says it all. I am now 70, I wish I could have had these guys to listen to when I was 20. To all the young out there, I urge you listen to this stuff. You dont have to agree to it all, but it may open your minds and might prevent you from getting stuck in ideological dogma. Thanks, Joe and Dr. Peterson.
dude, if you're 70 and taking wisdom from a Joe Rogan podcast, not sure... better late than never maybe... but I think even a 20-year-old takes most of what he says with a pinch of salt
@@jbri1 i’ve seen a couple comments from you, just seems like you’re a negative guy who loves to tear down people who aren’t aligned with your belief system… nobody is asking you to hang onto every word a said person says, we just take perspective that differs from the narrative and sometimes people who are lost in the propaganda machine really need it and really make use of it since misinformation engulfs the mainstream media now… it can be empowering to break away from cattle and get a better understanding of reality
@@jbri1 i’ve seen a couple comments from you, just seems like you’re a negative guy who loves to tear down people who aren’t aligned with your belief system… nobody is asking you to hang onto every word a said person says, we just take alternative perspective and sometimes people who are lost in the pr0p4g4nd4 machine really make use of it since misinformation engulfs the m41nstr34m m3dia now
I got off drugs and alcohol and gambling because of Jordan Peterson, now I started my own channel in addiction and sobriety and have met other people doing the same thing. Jordan literally saved my life
He definitely was an influence on me over the years. Constantly triggering a deeper intellectual think into Christianity. It finally clicked not long ago.
@@Ripzalot me too, probably would have just written it off if I didn’t hear someone I really respect talk about it in a new way. I would have just judged it before without looking too much into it. Now I see so much benefit from a God of my own understanding
@Wanos321 yeah it's always the same. Sure you can interpret the bible all you want but he's adding a whole lot of meaning that he has prescribed himself. Inferencing is a great tool but at this point that's all he's doing. He has zero actual ability to know that was the intent of the author. Taking off his shoes is a sign of his willingness to transform? OK, sure maybe but you don't know that beyond your idea that's what it might be. It's somewhat interesting to listen to once but then it's just the same thing recycled. I donhave respect for JP but the fact he says it like its established Canon is what gets me. Present it as an idea because that's all it is. Just comes across as an argument from authority otherwise.
Jordan "Exodus is just the tip of the spear" Joe "Have you seen an orangutan fishing with a spear?" Jordan "What? No. I just meant......" Joe "Jamie, pull up the spearfishing orangutan for Jordan please."
Man, those last 40 minutes were absolutely mesmerizing. Jordan exploring religious and psychological concepts is great, him detailing out what he is doing on the online university front is fascinating, but when he gets into what has happened to his initial chosen profession and the consequences for those most in need of help and guidance, that is truly something to behold.
@@chjk122_ The statement is nonsense, from the king of nonsense. There is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable... Jordan Peterson. Huh?
@@johnreed2272 I pointed out that the statement is nonsense, as a pattern of nonsense by JP. I am attacking his statements; is that a character attack? JP doesn't like his statements critiqued? BTW did you find any profound ideas by JP somewhere on YT or this video? 'The West is an oppressive patriarchy' -- Jordan Peterson.
The only reason for someone to say Jordan speaks "word salads" is if you simply don't care to take the time to understand what he's saying. This is genuinely profound stuff that I'm grateful we have access to in this day and age. Thank you Joe and Jordan.
He does a lot of word salad. Pay attention to the question Joe asks him and halfway through Jordan's ramble you will realize he's talking about shit that has nothing to do with the original Q. Also if he was genuine and a good communicator, he would try to explain things in the simplest and most efficient way, but instead he chooses the longest and most complicated words on purpose to try to seem intelligent when he in fact doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about
@@dubrovnikvagabundo3211 lol, no.. I do, but you probably don’t 😂. His whole audience caters to people with no vocabulary, who hear him string together a bunch of big words and then they think “oh wow he must be a genius” when really he isn’t saying anything of any value. The only valuable or practical things he’s ever said is stand up straight and clean your room, it’s sad.
Contrary to what Peterson said the concept of hierarchies inherently creates power imbalances and inequalities that tend to produce victims: 1. Hierarchies of suffering and victimhood exist, where some victims are seen as more deserving of sympathy and support than others. This creates a status hierarchy among victims themselves[3]. 2. Media representations reinforce hierarchies by portraying certain groups of women as "worthy" or "unworthy" victims, often along racial and class lines. This perpetuates systemic inequalities[4]. 3. Even attempts to eliminate victims from some hierarchies, like the "Zero Inclusion Victim" cache design, still acknowledge the existence of victims in the original hierarchy that needed to be addressed[1]. 4. Hierarchies in evolution and nested classifications can produce "victims" in the form of organisms that lose traits or are outcompeted[2]. 5. The very concept of victimhood is tied to status and power dynamics in international relations and society[3]. While it may be theoretically possible to envision a perfectly egalitarian system, in practice hierarchies tend to produce winners and losers, dominant and subordinate groups, and by extension, victims
Jbp and his philosophies brought me out of an extremely dark place after being permanently paralyzed from the waist down. Made me realize i needed to treat myself better and let go of my self hate and stop punishing my self for my accident. I was gonna end it. Now I'm married with a daughter and I'm back to work full time.
I love how Jordan actually has an open dialogue with Joe and allows him to riff and share knowledge without being condescending. Unlike Neil Tyson who dismisses Joe and acts like he knows everything.
@@finchatforharambe905 Like numerous other people we find real meaning in Peterson's lessons. He doesn't have the answer to everything but his education and careful study of psychology and history is his superpower (of sorts). His lessons genuinely have helped me in day to day life! I hope you find a mentor like he is to me and others 😁 taka care, brother. Greetings from Iceland!
@@robflo8823To live the life for and with god. That's for what god has created you. If you want to find out try to read the bible maybe start with new testament/ the second shorter part of the bible. There you can find how to find peace and forgiveness with god and yourself.
@@PolitiCanadawe can see Jordan's flaws while also understanding that we were lost until his words guided us in the right direction. Learn to distinguish. No one is without fault. That doesn't mean no one can guide, or teach, appropriately.
Regardless if one believes in the Bible in a literal sense, the concepts that have come from it have shaped societies for millenia. Many people discard the Bible because they tie it to the religion only but if they look at it differently as a historic record of observations and wisdom then they open themselves to what the Bible is really saying.
He's full of shit. I too thought he was righteous and even went to his life show but eventually I realised it's really his hunger to get praise from people and arrogance behind his false empathy. If he really had true empathy he wouldn't have damned the children in Gaza. Fk JP.
I love listening to Dr Peterson. Even though I thought I was doing okay after my life partner passed away. I was stuck, not going forward or backward. Simply existing… Just listening to him helped me form a path forward. There are few in this world who are a treasures. Dr Peterson is one of those treasures. We are so lucky to have him.
I have never seen Dr Peterson sit and listen so intently to an interviewer ever like this I think Joe should feel very respected. And certainly it makes me consider his very valid points more than if he was constantly being interrupted
Nobody describes Christian Biblical stories like Jordan. ❤ Truly finds the most beautiful and meaningful way. I was agnostic till I listened to his Bible lectures.
Jordan has serious passion for the betterment of people and the world , he has the benefit of being surrounded by mostly good people , his enthusiasm gives me a massive hope for future generations.
Except he still dismisses every scientist and scientific institution across the world saying climate change isn’t real. He’s only for the betterment of himself at the cost of the world. Good job
I’m not through this podcast, just over an hour into it and I’m completely floored.. I don’t consider myself religious but I love to read, and my interests in knowledge has taken me to the Old Testament. I literally just finished the Abraham story before I turned this podcast on… I have been analyzing the story as I went through it, and Jordan adding his spin on it is just incredible to listen too. The timing is incredible. Thanks guys
The things about those scriptural stories is that they can relate to almost anything in life depending on how you look at it, the principles are completely versatile and connected.
Brother! Coincidence is not a thing when you are on the path to righteousness!! Once you SEE it’s a gift, everything changes. The real questions to ask one’s self is HOW did Enoch ascend to Heaven, Alive? He figured it all out and lived it! It’s why he was removed from the Bible. Imo. Stay the course! Learn more and more and more. Eventually yoj will become a beacon for those who are lost and searching for the next coincidence to change their lives! 😊
When JP gets in a flow there’s no one more remarkable and engaging to listen to. He touches your soul in a way I’ve never experienced before listening to him unless I was listening to music.
@@hammerdon1962 Without which science wouldn't be. And without which science wouldn't know what to do with it's discoveries. Serious self-limitations you're putting up here, which lets me believe you haven't yet figured out the distinction between morality and physicality and how they interact in a very cohesive and intertwining universe. You're one of those who actually got mentally narrowed by science. It's a bit sad, especially since you seemingly afford to be judgemental on something you know nothing about. Which is kind of what i'm doing here too. And I bet you don't like it. Welcome to the club.
@@hammerdon1962 Try not to paralyze your mind too much with the opinions of others. Historically, science wasn't advanced by those who all thought the same. One must risk striking a new path, and subjecting that new path to acceptance by peer review only sullies the production of truth.
I just want to let you know that my life is changing by the minute here and it wasn't until now that I feel called truly to seek truth and aim upward. God bless, Jordan Peterson!
I’ve been following Jordan Peterson since his first appearance on JRE almost (if not) 10years ago. It’s great to see society finally sobering around the themes he had been warning us about. Better later than never!
Jordan has become the father figure I needed in my life. He is my generations father and he cares and wants whats best for all. Jordan helped me through so much hurt and pain in my life and I'm grateful to him. My daughter is now taking an interest in reading Jordan's books and listening to his lectures and I am so happy for her to be guided by him. Thank you, Jordan.
Jordan just made one of the greatest quotes and don't even know it "The positive emotion that motivates people is always experienced in relation to a goal"
@@peymanj3456 Please elaborate on why you dont like dr peterson I credit him with saving my life with his first book 12 rules for life and relevant podcasts
Been waiting to get off work so I could listen to this. Joe Rogan is who introduced me to Jordan Peterson. Thank God for both of these men. They have taught me and helped me so much in life.
Jordan and Joe both changed my life, and then Jordan sold his soul. Its painful to see the man I looked up to become an actual traitor, a coward. I wonder what happened, why did he do it? Was he always fake?
@@smokagaming I’ve listened to JBP for years, gone through his Maps of Meaning lectures and Psychology lectures 4 or 5 times each, I’ve seen him twice in person (last time was in May of this year), read his books (and can’t wait for his new one), and I frequently listen to his podcast. It wasn’t until Candace Owen’s recent podcast that I started to become aware of the increasing hate on him. I think several things are happening. 1) It 100% could be deep state operatives planting trolls to comment on videos he is in to get people to change their opinion on him, because his opinions are dangerous to the communist agenda and he has a very wide reach. And that is more powerful than people think. I’m sure there are tons of people who have switched their opinion of him 180 all because of a few disparaging comments they’ve read. The SOCIAL PRESSURE realllllly gets to people. 2) On a spiritual/religious basis, people who speak truth are often and always hated in spiritually dark societies, like ours, so the further our society drifts from Truth, the more they will start to NATURALLY hate people like Jordan. And 3) People don’t like when he gets “heated” on X. But I think people don’t realize how truly evil and pathological the left has become. Getting angry at the poisonous rhetoric they spew is warranted and justifiable in many cases. And I want to state that even someone like myself, who has loved and revered Jordan since 2020, (and still do!!) questioned my opinion of him when I saw some very rude comments about him on his recent podcast he did with Elon Musk. I questioned myself for about….. 60 seconds 😅 and realized that “no, I do not agree with these people. I’ve followed JBP very closely for over 4 years now and he hasn’t done anything to make me think that he has “sold his soul”, or “he’s a coward”, or a “hypocrite and liar” etc.” We live in Orwellian times and just as Orwell wrote about, the Truth becomes HATED in pathological times. (ISAIAH 5:20). Jordan is the same Jordan I’ve known since I was introduced to him (besides the natural changes that come with living life but at his core he is the same is what I mean). I’m not sure where all this hate has come from, and I tend to think that the most logical explanation for it IS the religious one. He’s teaching Truth; therefore the dark forces running the world will try to snuff him out. It’s sad to see so many people switch up all of the sudden when he hasn’t done anything to warrant such behavior. I wonder what peoples answers would be if you asked them “give me examples of things he’s done to make you think he’s a fake, evil, lying charlatan now.” Most likely they wouldn’t be able to come up with any real, rational argument. As is always the case with people who do not think critically for themselves. PS, that is probably the single greatest thing Jordan has done for me: he has taught me how to THINK CRITICALLY and INDEPENDENTLY. Just some thoughts of mine that are hard to flesh out and articulate in a YT comment, but I hope my point gets across.
Yes he is a fine man I love to lay in the pool with headset and listen & learn something that I can use in my life .. I get some vitamin D and brain stimulation 🙏🏼🙂🌞
"Either your own instinct, or the divine voice, I don't think that they're distinguishable." What a powerful line, one that holds incredible depth and truth, and could be broken down and examined for days. Thrown out there as if it was an off hand addition to his comment. Amazing.
Listening to Jordan Peterson unravel his stream of consciousness regarding the 'biblical corpus' makes my whole psychology implode. I’ve made many attempts to read and understand the Bible, often finding myself in a state of uncertainty, just internally enunciating the syllables before me. However, there have been times when I set an intent beforehand with a short prayer, asking for the words I’m reading to resonate and convey meaning, and I’d learn a profound lesson that was both personal and impactful. When someone as brilliant as Jordan Peterson deciphers the stories encoded in the Bible, it becomes clear how significant, deep, and multi-layered they truly are. It’s incredibly compelling to hear him unravel it all.
Exactly the same as the imagination by humans, what they still are, no matter what deep connections we find in them. Who acknowledges that may really profit very proficiently from that wave of thought. Goosebumps indeed.
@@jordanmarcus You should read the Quran just so you know what we're up against. 9:5 for instance goes on to direct their followers to kill all non-Muslims unless they pay a religious tax, and to do that four times a year ( after each holy celebration ). There are so many direct quotes from the Quran that will get you censored on RUclips, it's pretty wild tbh.
@@sayerslayer1854 i'm not a doctor but i don't think what you describe is known to induce headaches medically. Seems more like a psychological or skill issue.
@@sirtra i have nothing against him, he's just never been a favorite speaker of mine. I've listened to many philosophers and speakers over the years, Jordan isn't particularly unique and he does have a rambling sort of speaking style. Its nothing personal, I don't hate him just don't idolize him either
What Jordan says about the sacrifices that Abraham had to make as he is changing for the better was just beautiful and so well laid out. Thanks Joe for having him on, amazing!
I’m a 36 year old man who is in the midst of a terrifying time of trying to figure out my life after multiple ups and downs in the past. I’m here taking notes on this discussion. Once again blown away by the Dr Peterson and Rogan team.
Outgrow them, fast... for your own sake. People say Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich guy, which makes Peterson an illiterate man's idea of a philosopher, he's nothing more than an ankle-deep pseudointellectual. The faster you realise that, the better for you.
Was 32 when I graduated college, 38 when I had a child, 41 when I started over professionally. 43 now and still a bit uncertain, but I have aimed high and am finally doing it. Went through my 30s feeling so far behind and lost.
I love Jordan. Saw him live in his "We Who Wrestle With God" tour when it came to Phoenix; Phenomenal lecture! Such a brilliant mind and unique perspectives on the biblical stories.
I was there too, it was definitely a phenomenal lecture - it still sticks with me. I remember vividly when he walk talking about the story of Jonah (about not running from purpose), and Abraham bargaining with God over the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah (about not lying, and that if any given society were to have a mere handful of good people that it will survive even the hardest times).
That stood out to me too. Was cool how intently he was listening tho. The man’s a good listener if you’ve watched a lot of his conversations, never seen him miss a word anyone’s ever said to him lol
He’s talking about natural organic hallucinogens that are properly graded and has the proper advertised active ingredient for purposes of control and safety in a properly supervised professional environment
You've been hanging out with the wrong people then lol. I feel you, me and my group of stoners just go in depth with the usual pothead BS, I'm sure it's a humongous difference than people using hallucinogenics. Both are very interesting though.
I bought "Maps of Meaning" 3 years ago. It took almost 20 years for Jordan to write it, as far as I understand. After 3 attempts of trying to read the book, I am on page 274 at the moment. Well worth reading slowly.
Agreed. What's nice is they LISTEN to each other as opposed to pretending to listen while thinking of what they will say when turn comes. It's a REAL conversation with OPEN minds. Jordan has been quoted as saying he purposely doesn't prepare extensively for events like this so that he can organically LEARN AND GROW instead of the verbal masturbating matches we see in most conversations.
Hahaha 😁 Spot on!👏 I was just about to quit watching the endless Roe mushrooms crede-rant when the giant Peterson gently took over, helping this lost Joe sheep 🐑 back to the fold!😂
I love Dr. JORDAN PETERSON! 3rd time watching this episode. To be sure I didn't miss anything, and also enjoyed it; that much! Big thank you for all of your awesome and great work, Sir! ❤❤❤ Dr. PETERSON, keep on keeping on the good fight! I stand with you SIR!!! 💯💯💯🙌🏼💞🙌🏼💞
Jordan helped me get sober, I ODed and that made me want to quit and Jordan motivated me and gave me the tools to do it I was on fentanyl and benzo’s. When I first heard of him and I saw him do a few interviews he did and thought I was a pretty smart guy and then I listened to a lecture he did I wish I could remember witch one but after that I start getting a few thing in order and checked myself into a rehab that same week.
12 steps helped me changed my life . July 18th I was 18yrs sober. God can use anyone for his message mine was an active heroin user. Of course God can use Peterson
I love how Jordan Peterson said it: in order to be the ones we are ment to be we must confront and embrace our fears and the whole shit going on in our lives.
I know he thinks he is so intellectually stimulating that everyone else is mezmerized but we're actually just scrolling to something else He's a snake oil salesman
That's just something you do when you truly want to get a full understanding this is a conversation of the unknown in search of the known. The best way to do that is to compare ideals
Did he impregnate your wife? Did he make the decision to not be a womanizing douche? Totally respect JP but take some credit for your own initiative and responsibility.
I am forever grateful to Jordan Peterson because he helped me to get better at life. I was a 25 year old loser in 2020. I had no job. I lived with my parents and i had zero money. I started listening to Petersons lectures and it motivated me so much. 4.5 years later i'm a electric engineer working in the developement of synchronous motors. I'm currently building a house in germany and got married in september 2023. Also i gained like 12kg of muscle-mass in the last years from working out regulary.
Jordan Peterson turned me from a hedonistic, nihilistic atheist who was single, unemployed, and living with my parents to a responsible, disciplined, optimistic Christian who is now happily married, employed, with a child on the way. He completely shifted my worldview. Making meaning my goal as opposed to happiness changed everything. Developing the humility to accept incremental change changed everything. Becoming open to religious ideas changed everything. God bless this man. I shudder to think where I would be without his influence on my life.
faith and trust in God is still the most important thing as a christian :) everything peterson speaks is really important and true but i think he left that point out :D i feel like christians today are too self reliant so the main message of the bible kinda gets left out
Dr. Peterson didn’t do that he only gave you the right perspective for to you achieve that level of success through your hard work
Could I ask which Christian tradition you picked?
Two good men in a sick society. ❤
You'd be surprised how much meaning is happiness, more than the pursuit of happiness on its own.
Jordan is a big reason I got sober. 12.2.19. Thank you sir.
Stay sober and hope you have piece of mind! Well done!
He has had some bad takes in the past, but I'm glad to see he has cause some good too.
Dang bro. You got sober right before being an alcoholic might have killed you.
me too i had a nitrate cider and i was done for seven years never drank once.
Loser
Before I knew Jordan Peterson, I was a 4 time college dropout. Since I started listening to Jordan Peterson in 2017, I earned a STEM degree from a top 5 University in the field, raised my salary by 600%, advanced through 4 jobs, switched my career, and fixed my marriage.
I took the heaviest rock I could lift and lifted it. Thanks Dr. Peterson.
To all the cynics in the comments, your snark only prevents you from fixing your own lives. I’m here to share good news and inspiration. If you choose to deny your own potential, that’s up to you.
Good on you mate. That's awesome what you have accomplished. Awesome.
Bravo mi amigo 💯🪖💪
Thank God.
Damn 😳 bravooo!!😳👏👏
I’m in the beginning of my journey! Encouraged! Thanks for sharing
“Meaning in life comes from the voluntary assumption of responsibility,” is a phrase that completely changed my life.
I love this quote man; where is it from? Is it from the JRE episode itself? If not, what is the source?
@@justin-claudedumont4091
Peterson most likely sourced this from Dostoyevsky. “Every man is not only responsible for what he does but what everyone else does”. They both likely sourced this from heroic characters in mythology and religion which all have stories where someone bears the weight of the world on their shoulders or something similar.
Who misses the panoramic view?
I like to see both of them at once. Listener’s reaction is a huge part of communication.
Yes, this should be upvoted... but Joe will never see it cause he doesn't read comments :(
360 cam on the table would be dope or VR 😂
@@tech1238 love that idea bro
What a shame to have 2 people who do not know God personally talking about Him and His Word out of ignorance because they are spiritually blind. JESUS told Nicodemus "you must be born again". Nicodemus was a scholarly leader. 😮
@@ocbeachgir1294 introspect
To anyone who sees this, please pray for my health and send positive energy my way.
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You're loved, friend. Mine isn't great either, but we're going to make it. I believe in you!
I will🤝🏼
Amen
Years ago i saw this mans lectures and shed some tears. Now im 7 years clean, married, with kids and my degrees. All started with this guys words. Whatever he sells im buying.
Wisdom is a tree of life.
I hope you read Proverbs ❤
Me too 2:04:28
Previously you are correct, but JBP has fallen hard, we have to admit that.
@@ReekRendTest1 how so? If tou dont mind me asking
@@oscarriley9265For one, he went against everything he ever taught when he supported the apartheid state of Isr-el’s tyrannical and evil treatment of the Palestinians. That’s a big stain that’s hard to overlook.
Jordan Peterson is the best guest anyone can invite to their podcast or RUclips channel.
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Daily attire and suits.
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Guest's reasons for wearing suits, including respect for students and setting professional boundaries.
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Discussion on guest's public speaking tour, suit designer Dimitri, and audience reactions.
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Exploring the concept of "wrestling with God" and the significance of words in shaping reality.
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The role of language and words in creating reality, the significance of the word "Israel," and the importance of moral decision-making.
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The Sermon on the Mount and the importance of aiming for the highest good.
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Balancing between order and chaos, and how meaningful experiences arise from this balance.
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Discussion on Elon Musk's existential crisis and his pursuit of knowledge.
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Addressing the cultural conflict between nihilists, atheists, and true believers.
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The value of psychedelic experiences and reflections on the reductionist perspective of religion.
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Exploring the depth and meaning behind religious stories and symbols, including the concept of memes.
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The story of Moses and the burning bush as a metaphor for personal transformation and responding to a calling.
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Introduction to the hypothesis of the burning bush being a DMT experience.
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Discussion on psychedelic experiences, their cultural significance, and how they amplify intrinsic interest and perception.
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Discussion on John Marco Allegro's work on psychedelics and ancient texts, including his controversial theories.
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The relationship between psychedelic experiences and religious practices, and the secrecy surrounding these practices.
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Exploring the role of the pineal gland and its symbolism in various cultures, including Catholicism.
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Discussion on the significance of psychedelic experiences and their potential role in human evolution and civilization.
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Discussion on Terence McKenna's "Stoned Ape Theory," the evolution of human consciousness, and the role of psychedelics in early human history.
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Discussion on the impact of the 1970 Controlled Substances Act, targeting civil rights and anti-war activists, and the cultural shift from the 60s to the 80s.
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Exploration of 1960s automobile designs and their cultural significance, contrasted with 1990s cars.
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Connection between creativity in the 1960s (e.g., music, car design) and drug use, particularly psychedelics, and the stifling effect of the 1970s crackdown.
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The potential benefits of psychedelics, especially for trauma treatment, and the issue of outdated laws prohibiting their use.
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Discussion on the importance of responsible use of psychedelics and the balance between freedom and order in society.
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Reflection on Timothy Leary's message and the consequences of uncontrolled psychedelic use in the 1960s.
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Comparison between the need for social structure and the dangers of unchecked freedom.
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The role of enlightened responsibility in society and the concept of "enlightened responsibility."
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Biblical references to Abraham and the call to adventure as an analogy for personal growth and societal stability.
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Discussion on the balance between individual freedom and social cohesion, using the biblical story of Abraham as an analogy.
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The importance of having a goal and how positive emotion is tied to progress toward a goal.
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Discussion on Abraham's story and the idea of sacrificial transformation for personal and societal growth.
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The concept of sacrifice in religious and personal contexts, and the role of sacrifice in establishing community.
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Exploring the deeper meanings behind religious stories and the role of sacrifice in personal development.
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Reflection on the necessity of accepting life's challenges and the concept of sacrificial love.
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Discussion on martial arts and personal growth, emphasizing the role of discipline and obsession in achieving goals.
1:00:17 - 1:02:03:
The importance of having a goal and how it drives positive emotion and progress.
1:02:03 - 1:04:03:
Discussion on the transformative power of pursuing a goal and the sacrifices required for personal growth.
1:04:03 - 1:07:01:
The story of Abraham's transformation and the idea of ultimate sacrifice in personal development.
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The concept of the good parent and the role of sacrifice in parenting and personal growth.
1:08:35 - 1:12:00:
Exploration of the concept of eternal life through the works of great individuals and the idea of transcending time.
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Discussion on the deeper meanings of religious symbols and stories, particularly the concept of sacrifice in the story of Abraham.
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Reflection on the importance of embracing life's challenges and the concept of voluntary acceptance of suffering.
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Discussion on the concept of religious experience and the importance of confronting life's challenges to reach one's full potential.
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Discussing the concept of courage and confronting life's horrors voluntarily, leading to personal growth and strength.
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Pause for a restroom break and transition into discussing Peterson Academy.
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Introduction of Peterson Academy, an online educational platform aimed at providing high-quality university-level education at a fraction of traditional costs.
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Addressing the crises in higher education, including ideological biases and the spiraling costs of student loans.
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Discussing the potential of RUclips and Spotify as platforms for independent commentators and educators, and how universities missed an opportunity to leverage new technology.
1:24:03 - 1:25:04:
The experience of professors from prestigious institutions who feel mistreated by their own universities and the promise of Peterson Academy to offer them better opportunities.
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Introducing the subscription model for Peterson Academy, which includes a $450 yearly fee to maintain a high-quality and responsible social media network.
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Detailing the high production quality of the courses, using advanced AI for illustrations and backgrounds, and showcasing a trailer of the courses.
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Highlighting the enthusiasm of professors involved and the unique presentation style for each course.
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Discussing the potential for certification and formal accreditation for the courses, while maintaining high standards and avoiding ideological biases.
1:29:10 - 1:30:55:
Explaining the challenges of accreditation and the focus on providing reliable certification directly to employers, ensuring students' work ethic and intelligence.
1:30:55 - 1:32:53:
Exploring the potential global reach of Peterson Academy, including the use of AI to translate courses into multiple languages.
1:32:53 - 1:34:35:
Discussing the possibilities for lifelong learning and community building through the platform, and the potential for in-person conventions.
1:34:35 - 1:36:15:
Emphasizing the innovative use of technology in education and the challenges of traditional universities to adapt.
1:36:15 - 1:37:07:
Analyzing the social and financial benefits of Ivy League education, including networking and social experiences, and the potential to replicate these benefits online.
1:37:07 - 1:39:16:
Addressing the decline of traditional universities and the ideological capture by certain forces, using the Mesopotamian myth as a metaphor.
1:39:16 - 1:40:50:
Discussing the fundamental human conflict represented in myths like the story of Cain and Abel and its manifestation in modern ideologies.
1:40:50 - 1:41:56:
Reflecting on the challenges of overcoming bitterness and resentment, and the importance of maintaining faith and courage.
1:41:56 - 1:43:30:
Describing the capture of universities by ideologies and the resulting impact on education and society.
1:43:30 - 1:45:11:
Discussing the challenges of addressing systemic issues in universities, including the difficulty of implementing reforms.
1:45:11 - 1:47:19:
Exploring the deep ideological roots of current issues in academia and the impact of historical and philosophical ideas.
1:47:19 - 1:50:55:
Analyzing the psychological and social dynamics at play in modern society, including the influence of ideological forces and the role of sacrifice in community building.
1:50:55 - 1:54:30:
Considering the implications of AI on society, particularly in education and employment, and the ethical concerns surrounding its development and use.
1:54:30 - 2:00:02:
Discussing the alignment problem in AI, the role of religious and humanistic education in shaping values, and the potential consequences of AI systems influenced by modern ideologies.
1:59:34 - 2:01:13:
Peterson emphasizes the importance of setting high goals and aligning actions with noble intentions, which he links to religious practices that guide moral development.
2:01:13 - 2:03:04:
He contrasts maturation with immaturity, arguing that true mental health comes from harmony with one's future and society, criticizing moral relativism for ignoring this.
2:03:04 - 2:05:00:
Peterson advocates for traditional humanities and religious education, stating that biblical stories help structure our understanding and provide a unified cultural framework.
2:05:00 - 2:08:01:
The discussion critiques postmodernist and Marxist views on power dynamics and victimhood, describing them as overly simplistic and harmful narratives.
2:08:01 - 2:10:30:
They explore the dangers of the victimhood narrative, particularly in gender identity issues, warning that some may exploit victim status for malicious purposes.
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The conversation covers the influence of upbringing on behavior, noting the importance of positive role models and the challenges posed by negative environments, especially without a father figure.
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Peterson stresses the role of fathers in promoting responsible behavior and social development, highlighting the need for supportive social structures, particularly for young men.
2:15:00 - 2:20:00:
Jordan Peterson discusses the impact of his book "12 Rules for Life" on young men, emphasizing the importance of responsibility and how it transforms life into an adventure. He uses the story of Bilbo from "The Hobbit" to illustrate the concept of taking on responsibility as a heroic journey.
2:20:00 - 2:23:30:
Peterson talks about the media's role in damaging reputations, using examples like the Kathy Newman interview. He describes encounters with journalists whose intentions were to entrap and destroy reputations for personal gain, highlighting a broader issue within journalism.
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Discussing the personal and professional consequences Peterson faced due to his views, including the threat of losing his license and being mandated to undergo re-education in Canada. He explains the costs and legal battles he has faced and his determination to fight against what he perceives as ideological imposition.
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Peterson criticizes the current practices surrounding gender dysphoria treatment, particularly for children, describing it as dangerous and unethical. He shares anecdotes and expresses concern about the long-term impacts of these treatments.
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The conversation shifts to the broader social implications of these practices, including the underground market for puberty blockers and the denial or minimization of the issues by some people.
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The discussion concludes with an overview of the courses available on Peterson Academy, including topics like symbolism in Christianity and the boy crisis, highlighting the unique and high-quality offerings.
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A brief preview of Peterson's course on Nietzsche's "Beyond Good and Evil," which delves into the influential philosopher's impact and ideas.
Bro ty
Thnks bro🎉
You're a gem my dude 🤝
Skip to 1:20:00 to not have to listen to Joe Rogan ramble on about psychedelics for an hour and twenty minutes
I met Jordan in Nashville and the first thing he did was complement my suit. I told him this was my first suit as an adult and it was because of him. He smiled and we took our photo
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@@kenholmes8378Thanks man
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Nice!
Only one i have is cus of court :3
did you then go down on him in a bathroom?
I'm a 73 year old woman. Been a huge fan of JR for over 12 years.
This may be one of the best and most meaningful episodes ever for me.
Joe's rant about psychadelics is fabulous.
Heard it all before but he put it altogether so succinctly today.
I've already bought Jordans book!
Looks fascinating!
Massive gratitude for both these wonderful men.
And for living in a world where so much free knowledge and wisdom is available to us all. 🙏💖
@@zazeel1 joes a liar. He’s never even done psychedelics. He’s admitted to never taking a full tab of acid. Also admitted to never taking a full dose of mushrooms. I’m sure whatever dmt he’s had was just some sort of inhaler or something. If this man experienced true ego death it would crush him.
It's so good it's it!! 2 of my favs! Wish Elon was in this one too!
totally with you
being so curious at your age is a blessing, and shows how full of life you are. much respect, madam. We are, indeed, living incredible times. may God allow you to continue your quest for knowledge for many years to come.
Thank you Rogan for having brought Peterson on the podcast. You opened my mind to the possibilities of life and how mysteriously beautiful it is. And Peterson brought me to God. Specifically to Jesus. Thank you to the both of you. 🙏🏾
There was a moment in my life that nothing made sense, a Sunday morning , I was into another episode of depression, I started looking online, for some help, while navigating the web, I saw a video of a guy talking about some rules for life, everything he said resonated with me, I literally started cleaning my room, of course it was not dirty, but I opened the drawers and start putting away things,I did the same with my papers, pictures, my drawings, letters and birthday cards that I had in my closet for years…tearfully I understood what he meant, since that day my life is different I took control of my actions, and saw everything good that I had around me, but mainly what can I do to make my life better, I will be forever grateful to Dr. Peterson.
Next step, structured sentences.
@@daveb3987I tried my best, English it’s not my first language, thank you for noticing, I’ll try better. 😊
@daveb3987 I tried my best, English it’s not my first language , thank you for noticing, I’ll try to do better next time.😊
@@lcoya1 swap the comma’s (,) for full stops (.)
Now it will all make sense.
@@lcoya1 You did very well particularly considering English is not your first language.
Jordan's explanation of Abraham is one of the most profound explanations of this story I've ever heard. I pray that future generations know about Jordan -- he is a gift from God.
Kierkegaard, maybe you have read his thoughts on Abraham. Nothings trumps that IMO
It's so good!!
Sounds like what they did to Galileo when he said the truth and was put on indefinite house arrest.
Jordan’s off the cuff meaning of life was incredible.
-What’s the meaning of life? It’s the meaning that reveals itself when you take the pathway of maximum responsibility.
Thank you Mr. Peterson
"Dr." Peterson
It might be the beginning of the end. Idk
I'm really good with that 😊 👍
So essentially we each find our own meaning by in which the responsibility we take upon ourselves in life in which provides the Purpose.
That was a highlight for me too. It explains to me why having children takes on that meaning.
If you seek God with all your heart you will find him. You don't need any drugs or mushrooms at all.... just patience and hunger. Your desire to know him alone is the desire God put in you.
I prefer what Isaiah 40 verse 31 says
It's just another tool in a toolbox. It's ignorant to dismiss them because your conception of those substances is based on cold war era propaganda.
Beautiful 🎉
God created Mushrooms
Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.
Ive said this over the years ina few comments but jordans first book coupled with scripture helped me through the depths of addiction and nihilism , self hatred and the verge of death. I am forever in debt to Jordan, god bless him. Many , many years mr. Peterson ! ☦️
Edit/Reply : Thanks for all the love guys, and to answer some questions I ment his first big book 12 rules for life. It helped me beyond measure , but I had to implement what Jordan says word for word, no procrastinating. I cleaned my room, then my house, then my mind, then my body, and relationships , then my life. Now I'm over a year sober and my wife and I are trusting and loving better than ever, also our first child , a boy , will be born in 4 weeks! God is good!!!
May I ask the name of his first book? I struggle with the same debilitating burdens. I read scripture as well. Best of luck to you and yours.
12 rules for life
Maps of meaning was before 12 rules, though everybody probably means 12 rules anyway
@@CoreyWright-r8e Maps of meaning is more of text book, still a good read. Although 12 rules for life is probably what he is referring to.
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"Assume the person you're conversing/debating with MAY know something you don't" This one sentence Jordan Peterson said...of everything I've watched from lectures to podcasts changed me profoundly. I would always try to win when debating or just waiting for my turn to talk when conversing with someone. Now I actually listen to people...I really listen to them...the result I feel is that I've grown so much as a human being since then. A deeply sincere thank you to Jordan Peterson.
Subconsciously I’ve been doing this for years when talking about things I actually know a lot about. It doesn’t go as well as you imagine. Still the loudest asshole gets his part said.
Except when they hold different opinions than yours...in that case they are Postmodern Neo-Marxists who want to enslave us in a gulag! *Crying*
Or assume they don't know something that you do. I've learned to ask "have you heard of this?" when discussing an obscure topic, or " have you seen this movie, heard this song, etc?" when making references.
I am completely deaf
Like good poker players, they explore all possibilities.
I love that their relationship allows them to skip the formalities and go directly into the heart of the matter.
Within 3 and a half minutes, Joe asks the question, "Do you wrestle with God?"
That shows Joe's comfort and willingness to invite Jordan's response, that he knows will be a daunting journey of self exploration.
I love this
And Jordan’s reply “with every Word”… it’s just perfect.
really?! i think it has more to do with a fact that you just watched a 3 hour commercial for Jordan Peterson. "Their relationship" cmon, that wasn't even an actual show.
You think they just went on air without saying anything....?
Or he’s just a stoned ape
Bring Jordan back for more episodes. Love this man. Love his mind. Love how he speaks. He is an example of how we should all try to live our best lives, always search for the truth, always try to raise ourselves up and those around us .
This podcast actually gives you a +50% buff to all room cleaning related activities. I'm cleaning mine right now
Haha !
Thats what I like to call the 'Jordan shame'.
Just started but I'm sure I'll get it soon...gonna clean my room ahead of time
I literally started cleaning my house listening to this
Haha, I was cleaning it while listening, then realized that, this shit is deep rooted in our conscious
Almost 2 million views in 24 hours, I don’t sit through many of these podcasts but this one is definitely worth it! JP is the man 💯
Jordan Peterson is the reason I am a father of 4 and a good husband. He did what my own father should've done and never did.
Oic
That's a particularly heavy one to overcome (the bs father figure). Still on my own path regarding that one, but I'm glad you made it through dude 🙏
What's that, tell you not you use protection. Jp taught you to do what animals and the rest of humsnity have done, even without fathers. Wow, you are easily MK's ultra+
That’s sad
Whether you're a good husband or father isn't for you to judge. Seems odd you call yourself a good husband so boldly.
OMG. This is mind blowing. I was already a Jordan Peterson devotee, but I had no idea Rogan was this thoughtful. I only wish I could know everyone commenting here. You are my people.
Did JP say something profound and useful in this video?
It's awesome to see Jordan looking healthy and happy again. He went through a rough period and I'm really glad to see him doing exceptionally well.
That's because he's an addict.
He looks horrific
@@Eliminator5555..and he still deserves to be happy and healthy, which we wish on him…
He's so full of sh** his eyes are brown.
@@calebwalsh8382 looks like a sweaty mess. He literally is having trouble putting his thoughts together. Sits there with his eyes closed and hands in constant motion while he stumbles ..
At 1:53, really says it all. I am now 70, I wish I could have had these guys to listen to when I was 20. To all the young out there, I urge you listen to this stuff. You dont have to agree to it all, but it may open your minds and might prevent you from getting stuck in ideological dogma. Thanks, Joe and Dr. Peterson.
I don't believe a 70yr old on RUclips writing comments man
@user-eb6gr1ux6w are you saying you don't believe I'm 70 or you think it's strange a 70 year old guy is writing comments on RUclips. ;))
dude, if you're 70 and taking wisdom from a Joe Rogan podcast, not sure... better late than never maybe... but I think even a 20-year-old takes most of what he says with a pinch of salt
@@jbri1 i’ve seen a couple comments from you, just seems like you’re a negative guy who loves to tear down people who aren’t aligned with your belief system… nobody is asking you to hang onto every word a said person says, we just take perspective that differs from the narrative and sometimes people who are lost in the propaganda machine really need it and really make use of it since misinformation engulfs the mainstream media now… it can be empowering to break away from cattle and get a better understanding of reality
@@jbri1 i’ve seen a couple comments from you, just seems like you’re a negative guy who loves to tear down people who aren’t aligned with your belief system… nobody is asking you to hang onto every word a said person says, we just take alternative perspective and sometimes people who are lost in the pr0p4g4nd4 machine really make use of it since misinformation engulfs the m41nstr34m m3dia now
Good to see Jordan on his A-game again. He is so much fun to listen to.
Gender reassignment is worse than what the Nazis did in the camps
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@tedmarley4341 damn bro you're obsessed with hating on rogan get a life 🤣
@@michaelkendall1263He's right. What does Joe do aside from push drugs on everyone?
Dr. Peterson is the reason why I started asking not for easier life, but to be stronger man
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I got off drugs and alcohol and gambling because of Jordan Peterson, now I started my own channel in addiction and sobriety and have met other people doing the same thing. Jordan literally saved my life
cheers ! Good for you. He's helped me in a similar way. Plus other caregivers.
He definitely was an influence on me over the years. Constantly triggering a deeper intellectual think into Christianity. It finally clicked not long ago.
@@thomasm934 he’s the man. We got this 🙌👊💪
@@Ripzalot me too, probably would have just written it off if I didn’t hear someone I really respect talk about it in a new way. I would have just judged it before without looking too much into it. Now I see so much benefit from a God of my own understanding
I still struggle with drinking, about to check your channel out
I love how all Joe Rogan wants to talk about is psychedelics, and all Jordan Peterson wants to talk about is the Bible. 😂
They have nothing new to talk about after like 5th one
Oh I hope not I like JP but can't stand his religious babble.. so boring
@Wanos321 yeah it's always the same. Sure you can interpret the bible all you want but he's adding a whole lot of meaning that he has prescribed himself. Inferencing is a great tool but at this point that's all he's doing. He has zero actual ability to know that was the intent of the author. Taking off his shoes is a sign of his willingness to transform? OK, sure maybe but you don't know that beyond your idea that's what it might be. It's somewhat interesting to listen to once but then it's just the same thing recycled. I donhave respect for JP but the fact he says it like its established Canon is what gets me. Present it as an idea because that's all it is. Just comes across as an argument from authority otherwise.
@@Notthetimeforit it just boring
@@WANOS123a little reductive and disingenuous to refer to his speaking as "religious babble"
Jordan "Exodus is just the tip of the spear"
Joe "Have you seen an orangutan fishing with a spear?"
Jordan "What? No. I just meant......"
Joe "Jamie, pull up the spearfishing orangutan for Jordan please."
please tell me this happened and where xd
😂😂😂
Bahahahahahaha this is so good
im ded
Ahahahahahahamuhahaha
Man, those last 40 minutes were absolutely mesmerizing. Jordan exploring religious and psychological concepts is great, him detailing out what he is doing on the online university front is fascinating, but when he gets into what has happened to his initial chosen profession and the consequences for those most in need of help and guidance, that is truly something to behold.
I havnt seen Joe go off on a DMT rant in a while. Peterson brings up the burning bush and hasn't got a word in for a good 15-20 mins🤣
It's a defense mechanism that atheists or agnostics will use when u bring up christianity. See it all the time in real life
Give Peterson some of his own medicine :-)
but how long has Jordan talked before this? annoying comment
@@BACKiNBLANCO 😂 No you gay
@LiteConversion for real. People are listening to things they don't like, fucking psychos...
When he said, “there’s no difference between responsibility and adventure.” It moved me to tears.
why
lmaoo
@@chjk122_ The statement is nonsense, from the king of nonsense. There is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable... Jordan Peterson. Huh?
@@psychcowboy1You went straight to character attacks, how do you feel about that?
@@johnreed2272 I pointed out that the statement is nonsense, as a pattern of nonsense by JP. I am attacking his statements; is that a character attack? JP doesn't like his statements critiqued? BTW did you find any profound ideas by JP somewhere on YT or this video? 'The West is an oppressive patriarchy' -- Jordan Peterson.
Jordan: "what are psychedelics for you Joe?"
Joe: *rants for literally 20 minutes*
Repaying the favour
He’s a sycophant about that shit lol
And Jordan sits through it with his arms crossed. 😂
Interviewing the interviewer lol
Its bill nye the science guy
The only reason for someone to say Jordan speaks "word salads" is if you simply don't care to take the time to understand what he's saying. This is genuinely profound stuff that I'm grateful we have access to in this day and age. Thank you Joe and Jordan.
My thoughts exactly. I would say it's probably people who are ideologically opposed to him, and they're just looking for some reason to criticise him.
He does a lot of word salad. Pay attention to the question Joe asks him and halfway through Jordan's ramble you will realize he's talking about shit that has nothing to do with the original Q.
Also if he was genuine and a good communicator, he would try to explain things in the simplest and most efficient way, but instead he chooses the longest and most complicated words on purpose to try to seem intelligent when he in fact doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about
But it’s not? I pay attention.. and… it’s word salad 😂
@theblackspark2644 Or don't have capacity to understand what he's talking about
@@dubrovnikvagabundo3211 lol, no.. I do, but you probably don’t 😂. His whole audience caters to people with no vocabulary, who hear him string together a bunch of big words and then they think “oh wow he must be a genius” when really he isn’t saying anything of any value. The only valuable or practical things he’s ever said is stand up straight and clean your room, it’s sad.
Joe Rogan talks about psychedelics with the same passion and earnestness that Jordan Peterson talks about hierarchies.
Lol, yup perfect 😂😂
And I fucking love it
I'm not a fan of lobster, actually all seafood is pretty groce. Steak on the other hand
Contrary to what Peterson said the concept of hierarchies inherently creates power imbalances and inequalities that tend to produce victims:
1. Hierarchies of suffering and victimhood exist, where some victims are seen as more deserving of sympathy and support than others. This creates a status hierarchy among victims themselves[3].
2. Media representations reinforce hierarchies by portraying certain groups of women as "worthy" or "unworthy" victims, often along racial and class lines. This perpetuates systemic inequalities[4].
3. Even attempts to eliminate victims from some hierarchies, like the "Zero Inclusion Victim" cache design, still acknowledge the existence of victims in the original hierarchy that needed to be addressed[1].
4. Hierarchies in evolution and nested classifications can produce "victims" in the form of organisms that lose traits or are outcompeted[2].
5. The very concept of victimhood is tied to status and power dynamics in international relations and society[3].
While it may be theoretically possible to envision a perfectly egalitarian system, in practice hierarchies tend to produce winners and losers, dominant and subordinate groups, and by extension, victims
Damn this was funny
Jbp and his philosophies brought me out of an extremely dark place after being permanently paralyzed from the waist down. Made me realize i needed to treat myself better and let go of my self hate and stop punishing my self for my accident. I was gonna end it. Now I'm married with a daughter and I'm back to work full time.
Thank you jordan peterson. You helped me save myself
You’re an amazing person to be able to make a worthwhile life for yourself and your family.
@margaritavsk my wife helped me more than I can ever articulate I am truly a blessed man
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I'm watching Peterson for 8 years now and it doesnt grow old. This guy is phenomenal!
eat only steak, avoid cider
@@r_v_t_ Eat a piece of cheese. Avoid tree-cat-snake-birds.
Absolutely brilliant
The guy saved my life
The guy is a nutcase. Good luck watching him for 8 years :)
Sober since 2019 because of God and Jordan Peterson. Thank you Dr. Peterson
I love how Jordan actually has an open dialogue with Joe and allows him to riff and share knowledge without being condescending. Unlike Neil Tyson who dismisses Joe and acts like he knows everything.
Tyson really does believe he knows everything-true
I used to think tyson was a genius as a kid, now I think he is just insanely pretentious.
Tyson is an egomaniac and just insufferable to me I’d rather hear Brian Cox talk about the universe than know it all Tyson
hold up, you dont think peterson is condescending?he is the most arrogant boomer of today dude.
JBP knows how to put his own rules into action in the moment, pretty cool.
Jordan Peterson is the Dad some of us never had growing up.
Those would be some pretty big shoes to fill.
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@@AlaskaMan2 was your dad bigfoot?
@@FattyPok Yes! How did you know?
Thats a fact
Jordan is the reason why I understood the meaning of life. He is the reason why I overcame negativity and understood how to go after your goals.
What is the meaning of life?
No he is not bruh
@@finchatforharambe905 Like numerous other people we find real meaning in Peterson's lessons. He doesn't have the answer to everything but his education and careful study of psychology and history is his superpower (of sorts). His lessons genuinely have helped me in day to day life!
I hope you find a mentor like he is to me and others 😁 taka care, brother. Greetings from Iceland!
What meaning of life?
Even if there is a meaning to life, I absolutely 100% did not consent to ANY of this. Period, end of.
@@robflo8823To live the life for and with god. That's for what god has created you. If you want to find out try to read the bible maybe start with new testament/ the second shorter part of the bible. There you can find how to find peace and forgiveness with god and yourself.
God bless you all!
Jordan Peterson is singlehandedly responsible for me coming back to Christianity and fully bathing myself in the light of the Lord. Thank you Jordan!!
Pay attention to how he handles/handles Judaism....... if you don't see a red flag. Then you are being fooled.
@@PolitiCanadawe can see Jordan's flaws while also understanding that we were lost until his words guided us in the right direction. Learn to distinguish. No one is without fault. That doesn't mean no one can guide, or teach, appropriately.
Peterson coupled with other men in my life have sparked my revisiting of faith
@@PolitiCanada I am not concerned with Judaism, as I am not a Jew, nor am I opposed to Jews.
Gid bless, remember, Gender reassignment is worse than what the Nazis did in the camps
Jordan Peterson has opened my eyes to biblical stories and has brought new meaning to my life
We have learnt that only God that Peterson is worshiping is Zionist money
Try cliffe knetchle
@@deanzo1234 it's one way to read them lol.
Regardless if one believes in the Bible in a literal sense, the concepts that have come from it have shaped societies for millenia. Many people discard the Bible because they tie it to the religion only but if they look at it differently as a historic record of observations and wisdom then they open themselves to what the Bible is really saying.
He's full of shit. I too thought he was righteous and even went to his life show but eventually I realised it's really his hunger to get praise from people and arrogance behind his false empathy. If he really had true empathy he wouldn't have damned the children in Gaza. Fk JP.
I love listening to Dr Peterson.
Even though I thought I was doing okay after my life partner passed away. I was stuck, not going forward or backward. Simply existing…
Just listening to him helped me form a path forward.
There are few in this world who are a treasures. Dr Peterson is one of those treasures. We are so lucky to have him.
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Me too
I have never seen Dr Peterson sit and listen so intently to an interviewer ever like this
I think Joe should feel very respected.
And certainly it makes me consider his very valid points more than if he was constantly being interrupted
Nobody describes Christian Biblical stories like Jordan. ❤ Truly finds the most beautiful and meaningful way. I was agnostic till I listened to his Bible lectures.
You are not alone
It's beautiful
He learn little bit from the Holy fathers in Orthodox Church ! If you read John Chrysostom for example you will see what I try to tell you!
Bill Donohue can... and does... with far more accuracy than JP can, as a clinical psychologist obsessed with Freud.
Jordan has serious passion for the betterment of people and the world , he has the benefit of being surrounded by mostly good people , his enthusiasm gives me a massive hope for future generations.
Except he still dismisses every scientist and scientific institution across the world saying climate change isn’t real. He’s only for the betterment of himself at the cost of the world. Good job
I’m not through this podcast, just over an hour into it and I’m completely floored.. I don’t consider myself religious but I love to read, and my interests in knowledge has taken me to the Old Testament. I literally just finished the Abraham story before I turned this podcast on… I have been analyzing the story as I went through it, and Jordan adding his spin on it is just incredible to listen too. The timing is incredible. Thanks guys
The things about those scriptural stories is that they can relate to almost anything in life depending on how you look at it, the principles are completely versatile and connected.
I love the metaphors he uses to make these sometimes confusing stories more relatable. Of course, it's his perspective but I relate to it a lot.
God works in mysterious ways :-)
Do you have any connection to Orthodox religion, IF its not too personal question ???@@brobidart
Brother! Coincidence is not a thing when you are on the path to righteousness!! Once you SEE it’s a gift, everything changes. The real questions to ask one’s self is HOW did Enoch ascend to Heaven, Alive? He figured it all out and lived it! It’s why he was removed from the Bible. Imo. Stay the course! Learn more and more and more. Eventually yoj will become a beacon for those who are lost and searching for the next coincidence to change their lives! 😊
41:14 this is the longest biggest rant on psychedelics from Joe Rogan I’ve ever heard. Jordan is extremely patient
rant is right. i was sorta disgusted over his massive addiction. that stuff will TOTALLY FRY YOUR BRAIN
I've been looking forward to this one for a good long while.
hello there sir 🙂.
I felt similarly when I saw JP and Musk
same. JP and Joe are always some of the best interviews.
Legend
When JP gets in a flow there’s no one more remarkable and engaging to listen to. He touches your soul in a way I’ve never experienced before listening to him unless I was listening to music.
Have you heard Jordan’s song
WELL SAID!
yeah man when he gets rolling it's like a TOOL album!!!
Sure, if you’re easily entertained and think you’re smarter than you actually are, bucko.
Beautifully said 💫
“So how do you wrestle with God?”
Oh man here we go 😂
@@skylar.benson hilarious!
By Serious mental gymnastics.
I believe in science and peer-reviewed evidence.
But I throw all that s*** out the window for a 2000 yr old fairy tale.
@@hammerdon1962 Without which science wouldn't be. And without which science wouldn't know what to do with it's discoveries. Serious self-limitations you're putting up here, which lets me believe you haven't yet figured out the distinction between morality and physicality and how they interact in a very cohesive and intertwining universe.
You're one of those who actually got mentally narrowed by science. It's a bit sad, especially since you seemingly afford to be judgemental on something you know nothing about.
Which is kind of what i'm doing here too. And I bet you don't like it. Welcome to the club.
@@hammerdon1962 Try not to paralyze your mind too much with the opinions of others. Historically, science wasn't advanced by those who all thought the same. One must risk striking a new path, and subjecting that new path to acceptance by peer review only sullies the production of truth.
@@tylermoser2830 you're right. I forgot. You have to throw logic out the window too.
It is a harmony, a vibration that is or is not in tune.
I just want to let you know that my life is changing by the minute here and it wasn't until now that I feel called truly to seek truth and aim upward. God bless, Jordan Peterson!
Same.
These two mastered their ability of talking with someone. Its such an organic and unforced talk
Hahahaha this episode was the most bible thumping FORCED thing I’ve ever heard 🤣
Easy to just talk if you're not saying anything.
@@DesertMotorsor it all went over your head either or
I really loved it myself. I really love the metaphors that Jordan uses to make the concepts better understood!
This could easily pass as an AI conversation. That's all I'll say XD
Incredible podcast. I was glued to the screen the entire time. Intelligent conversations like this are priceless and necessary.
Yes. I loved it.
Especially the part about how Gender reassignment is worse than what the Nazis did in the camps
I absolutely love listening to this man. When someone speaks the truth it rings out like music.
This may be the best interview/conversation I’ve ever heard. Dr. Peterson’s righteous anger and expertise mixed with Joe’s openness and curiosity. 🔥
I’ve been following Jordan Peterson since his first appearance on JRE almost (if not) 10years ago. It’s great to see society finally sobering around the themes he had been warning us about. Better later than never!
Jordan has become the father figure I needed in my life. He is my generations father and he cares and wants whats best for all. Jordan helped me through so much hurt and pain in my life and I'm grateful to him.
My daughter is now taking an interest in reading Jordan's books and listening to his lectures and I am so happy for her to be guided by him.
Thank you, Jordan.
The spirit of the father ❤️
Jordan just made one of the greatest quotes and don't even know it "The positive emotion that motivates people is always experienced in relation to a goal"
‘Turn on, tune in and grow up’ may be the most JP quote ever
Needs to be a t-shirt
"As long as you don't criticize Israel and your room is clean, bucko."
It’s a play on Timothy Leary’s turn on, tune in, drop out.
Well because he has no good quotes period
@@peymanj3456 Please elaborate on why you dont like dr peterson I credit him with saving my life with his first book 12 rules for life and relevant podcasts
Been waiting to get off work so I could listen to this. Joe Rogan is who introduced me to Jordan Peterson. Thank God for both of these men. They have taught me and helped me so much in life.
Jordan and Joe both changed my life, and then Jordan sold his soul. Its painful to see the man I looked up to become an actual traitor, a coward.
I wonder what happened, why did he do it? Was he always fake?
@@slothymango of course he's always been fake LOL. Dude is a grifter
Agreed
@@smokagamingyeah I was a bit shocked, like really calling JP a grifter?? Must be bots.
@@smokagaming I’ve listened to JBP for years, gone through his Maps of Meaning lectures and Psychology lectures 4 or 5 times each, I’ve seen him twice in person (last time was in May of this year), read his books (and can’t wait for his new one), and I frequently listen to his podcast. It wasn’t until Candace Owen’s recent podcast that I started to become aware of the increasing hate on him. I think several things are happening. 1) It 100% could be deep state operatives planting trolls to comment on videos he is in to get people to change their opinion on him, because his opinions are dangerous to the communist agenda and he has a very wide reach. And that is more powerful than people think. I’m sure there are tons of people who have switched their opinion of him 180 all because of a few disparaging comments they’ve read. The SOCIAL PRESSURE realllllly gets to people. 2) On a spiritual/religious basis, people who speak truth are often and always hated in spiritually dark societies, like ours, so the further our society drifts from Truth, the more they will start to NATURALLY hate people like Jordan. And 3) People don’t like when he gets “heated” on X. But I think people don’t realize how truly evil and pathological the left has become. Getting angry at the poisonous rhetoric they spew is warranted and justifiable in many cases.
And I want to state that even someone like myself, who has loved and revered Jordan since 2020, (and still do!!) questioned my opinion of him when I saw some very rude comments about him on his recent podcast he did with Elon Musk. I questioned myself for about….. 60 seconds 😅 and realized that “no, I do not agree with these people. I’ve followed JBP very closely for over 4 years now and he hasn’t done anything to make me think that he has “sold his soul”, or “he’s a coward”, or a “hypocrite and liar” etc.” We live in Orwellian times and just as Orwell wrote about, the Truth becomes HATED in pathological times. (ISAIAH 5:20). Jordan is the same Jordan I’ve known since I was introduced to him (besides the natural changes that come with living life but at his core he is the same is what I mean). I’m not sure where all this hate has come from, and I tend to think that the most logical explanation for it IS the religious one. He’s teaching Truth; therefore the dark forces running the world will try to snuff him out. It’s sad to see so many people switch up all of the sudden when he hasn’t done anything to warrant such behavior. I wonder what peoples answers would be if you asked them “give me examples of things he’s done to make you think he’s a fake, evil, lying charlatan now.” Most likely they wouldn’t be able to come up with any real, rational argument. As is always the case with people who do not think critically for themselves.
PS, that is probably the single greatest thing Jordan has done for me: he has taught me how to THINK CRITICALLY and INDEPENDENTLY.
Just some thoughts of mine that are hard to flesh out and articulate in a YT comment, but I hope my point gets across.
It is amazing how many people on here attribute Peterson with saving their life, making them a better person. Good for him, good for them.
Yes he is a fine man I love to lay in the pool with headset and listen & learn something that I can use in my life .. I get some vitamin D and brain stimulation 🙏🏼🙂🌞
"Either your own instinct, or the divine voice, I don't think that they're distinguishable." What a powerful line, one that holds incredible depth and truth, and could be broken down and examined for days. Thrown out there as if it was an off hand addition to his comment. Amazing.
Jordan: *explaining the deep religious symbolism of Michelangelo's statue*
Joe: "Look at that foot."
That is I think why so many people love Joe: he's real.
I was thinking the exact same thing!!! It was so bizarre.
Fucked up thing to me I was looking at the foot and how the big toe was bent , in amazment before joe mentioned it 😂🤣😅🤣😂
Seriously, youd think someone raised by a single mother like joe would appreciate the doubled layers explained by Jordan
> talking about his book we who wrestle with good
> pick one of the trailers from my online university
> course trailer plays
At one point, Joe Rogan talked for almost 9 mins without being interrupted by the great Mr. PETERSON. Shows a lot
"great"
He is a servant of jews
Listening to Jordan Peterson unravel his stream of consciousness regarding the 'biblical corpus' makes my whole psychology implode. I’ve made many attempts to read and understand the Bible, often finding myself in a state of uncertainty, just internally enunciating the syllables before me. However, there have been times when I set an intent beforehand with a short prayer, asking for the words I’m reading to resonate and convey meaning, and I’d learn a profound lesson that was both personal and impactful. When someone as brilliant as Jordan Peterson deciphers the stories encoded in the Bible, it becomes clear how significant, deep, and multi-layered they truly are. It’s incredibly compelling to hear him unravel it all.
Exactly the same as the imagination by humans, what they still are, no matter what deep connections we find in them. Who acknowledges that may really profit very proficiently from that wave of thought. Goosebumps indeed.
@@jordanmarcus try reading other religious texts...
@@crushinnihilism Did you have a recommendation?
@@jordanmarcus You should read the Quran just so you know what we're up against. 9:5 for instance goes on to direct their followers to kill all non-Muslims unless they pay a religious tax, and to do that four times a year ( after each holy celebration ).
There are so many direct quotes from the Quran that will get you censored on RUclips, it's pretty wild tbh.
@@jordanmarcus the quran
Jordan Peterson 💥💫 ty Joe for the conversation
I can see no one who stayed to the end commented. Joe Rogan mentioned Jordan Peterson's appearance on Kill Tony. That's going to be exciting to watch.
Holy crap. No one is better at applying ancient biblical lessons to modern thought and attitudes than Jordan.
Yes because hes delusional
Most of what he says sounds like bs, plus he speaks so much word saland, the simpler he could speak the better his ideas could be understood.
@@EliteRvZimagine calling that delusional
@@User4567u8 weird how millions of people understand him perfectly. Must feel bad to be the odd man out, but man, the cope is real.
@@Tohlemiach to bad millions of other people cant even tell if his actually Christian
I actually enjoyed watching two famous ramblers, being incredibly respectful of each other’s rambling’s.
Like, the entire time.
Props. 👊🤯
Peterson was rambling wayyyy too hard this time for me. It was not a clear/smooth conversation. Headache inducing
@@miguelstein8431skill issue 😛
@@sirtranah, jp is a hyperintellectual, imbalanced
@@sayerslayer1854 i'm not a doctor but i don't think what you describe is known to induce headaches medically.
Seems more like a psychological or skill issue.
@@sirtra i have nothing against him, he's just never been a favorite speaker of mine. I've listened to many philosophers and speakers over the years, Jordan isn't particularly unique and he does have a rambling sort of speaking style. Its nothing personal, I don't hate him just don't idolize him either
I love Joe's thirty minute plus rant at the beginning of this😂😂
Thanks to Jordan's 12 rules for life and other lectures, I got promoted twice in two years. This year I'm aiming to be the best among my peers.
remember, Gender reassignment is worse than what the Nazis did in the camps
Congrats on making junior assistant manager.
That upward trajectory is a special feeling. I’m gonna have to give this book a read. Just picked up my copy on Amazon
That's right my boy get it gotta keep the influence high for these water down kids
That's fantastic! Congratulations to you.
What Jordan says about the sacrifices that Abraham had to make as he is changing for the better was just beautiful and so well laid out. Thanks Joe for having him on, amazing!
Also the part about how Gender reassignment is worse than what the Nazis did in the camps
he was ninety-nine years old when he sacrificed the flesh of his foreskin
I’m a 36 year old man who is in the midst of a terrifying time of trying to figure out my life after multiple ups and downs in the past. I’m here taking notes on this discussion. Once again blown away by the Dr Peterson and Rogan team.
Outgrow them, fast... for your own sake. People say Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich guy, which makes Peterson an illiterate man's idea of a philosopher, he's nothing more than an ankle-deep pseudointellectual. The faster you realise that, the better for you.
@@Mister.Unknownwhat is a real philosopher to you?
@@Matthew-rj2rkVaush, probably
Was 32 when I graduated college, 38 when I had a child, 41 when I started over professionally. 43 now and still a bit uncertain, but I have aimed high and am finally doing it. Went through my 30s feeling so far behind and lost.
@JohnSmith-yp3yk what did you do for a living and what have you chosen to pursue now
Jordan Peterson kept me alive after my first attempt in 2020
Proud of you keep it up
I love Jordan. Saw him live in his "We Who Wrestle With God" tour when it came to Phoenix; Phenomenal lecture! Such a brilliant mind and unique perspectives on the biblical stories.
I was there too, it was definitely a phenomenal lecture - it still sticks with me. I remember vividly when he walk talking about the story of Jonah (about not running from purpose), and Abraham bargaining with God over the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah (about not lying, and that if any given society were to have a mere handful of good people that it will survive even the hardest times).
OMG, I can’t remember Jordan staying silent for so long in any interview.😂
There was a moment where he tried to speak, but he can't help himself
He was making up for talking too much during that Elon interview maybe?
That stood out to me too. Was cool how intently he was listening tho. The man’s a good listener if you’ve watched a lot of his conversations, never seen him miss a word anyone’s ever said to him lol
He is a psychologist.
@ChefBoR.D. agreed. I've listened to alot of his episodes on his own podcast. He's a great host.
Jordan Peterson blows my mind every time I hear him
I like him but he intellectualises too much. Becomes a bit mind numbing
Yeah especially when he told Netanyahu to give the Palestinians 'Hell'.
@@Ukena53 for me, not anymore. There were so many errors in the first hour that it was quite egregious.
always love to hear something he said, got me thinking all the time
Why?
Mr. Peterson, you are a gift!..May God almighty continue to bless you and renew your strength.
Jordan Peterson is undoubtedly one of the greatest mind of the 21st century.
he exposed that Gender reassignment is worse than what the Nazis did in the camps
Lmfao no
@@MortaresD2 i would recommend to you David Deutsch and Christopher Hitchens.
Good joke bro
Yeah i agree
I've never in my entire life met or heard anyone speak about drugs with the same passion and depth of knowledge like Joe Rogan.
Ditto
He’s talking about natural organic hallucinogens that are properly graded and has the proper advertised active ingredient for purposes of control and safety in a properly supervised professional environment
@@valdia1248and he’s doing it with passion and depth of knowledge
You've been hanging out with the wrong people then lol. I feel you, me and my group of stoners just go in depth with the usual pothead BS, I'm sure it's a humongous difference than people using hallucinogenics. Both are very interesting though.
He's possessed by the demon of psychedelics.
"The stability of the community is based on the Will of the individual to sacrifice." So many great quotes from this discussion; that's just one!
I bought "Maps of Meaning" 3 years ago. It took almost 20 years for Jordan to write it, as far as I understand. After 3 attempts of trying to read the book, I am on page 274 at the moment. Well worth reading slowly.
The world is a better place with voices like Jordan's in it.
I swear I could watch Joe and Jordan talk for a full 8 hours. I hope he keeps coming back every few months.
Me too 😂😂😂
Agreed. What's nice is they LISTEN to each other as opposed to pretending to listen while thinking of what they will say when turn comes. It's a REAL conversation with OPEN minds. Jordan has been quoted as saying he purposely doesn't prepare extensively for events like this so that he can organically LEARN AND GROW instead of the verbal masturbating matches we see in most conversations.
It is amazing how Jordan patiently listens to Joe go off topic, then brings it right back on track, and acts as if he's answering Joe's wild ideas.
thats those years of working as a psychologist lol
Hahaha 😁 Spot on!👏 I was just about to quit watching the endless Roe mushrooms crede-rant when the giant Peterson gently took over, helping this lost Joe sheep 🐑 back to the fold!😂
Dude loves the sound of his own voice. Nothing more.
That is what you have to do for friends who give you a huge platform to ramble unchecked for hours.
@@nemesisnick66 not to mention decades as a teacher!
I love Dr. JORDAN PETERSON! 3rd time watching this episode. To be sure I didn't miss anything, and also enjoyed it; that much! Big thank you for all of your awesome and great work, Sir! ❤❤❤ Dr. PETERSON, keep on keeping on the good fight! I stand with you SIR!!! 💯💯💯🙌🏼💞🙌🏼💞
Jordan helped me get sober, I ODed and that made me want to quit and Jordan motivated me and gave me the tools to do it I was on fentanyl and benzo’s. When I first heard of him and I saw him do a few interviews he did and thought I was a pretty smart guy and then I listened to a lecture he did I wish I could remember witch one but after that I start getting a few thing in order and checked myself into a rehab that same week.
So many lives ruined because of fentanyl and benzos
Sad for you
sounds like you did all that yourself, peterson got security issues my friend
12 steps helped me changed my life . July 18th I was 18yrs sober. God can use anyone for his message mine was an active heroin user. Of course God can use Peterson
YOU DID IT BY YOURSELF not fuckuing jordan peterson
Yes yes perfect, Exactly what I want/need. I could watch 2180 Jordan Peterson podcasts
I could listen to him for hours talking about how Gender reassignment is worse than what the Nazis did in the camps
I love how Jordan Peterson said it: in order to be the ones we are ment to be we must confront and embrace our fears and the whole shit going on in our lives.
This is so deep that I need to transcribe it and read it again with making notes and thinking over. Thank you.
Jordan's patience to let Joe speak is remarkable 😂
🔄
Perhaps he read the comments on the Elon interview 😂
I know he thinks he is so intellectually stimulating that everyone else is mezmerized but we're actually just scrolling to something else
He's a snake oil salesman
Gender reassignment is worse than what the Nazis did in the camps
That's just something you do when you truly want to get a full understanding this is a conversation of the unknown in search of the known. The best way to do that is to compare ideals
Jordan Peterson is the reason why now i'm a proud father of two beautyful kids and defender of the traditional family. ❤
❤❤❤👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Did he impregnate your wife?
Did he make the decision to not be a womanizing douche?
Totally respect JP but take some credit for your own initiative and responsibility.
I am forever grateful to Jordan Peterson because he helped me to get better at life.
I was a 25 year old loser in 2020. I had no job. I lived with my parents and i had zero money. I started listening to Petersons lectures and it motivated me so much.
4.5 years later i'm a electric engineer working in the developement of synchronous motors.
I'm currently building a house in germany and got married in september 2023.
Also i gained like 12kg of muscle-mass in the last years from working out regulary.
That’s badass bro keep going!
Awesome brother! I'm sure we'd love to hear more about this!
Bros on tren
absolute legend
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Jordan peterson is our internet dad 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️