Game of Thrones | Season 8 Episode 5 'The Bells' Review
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Game of Thrones | Season 8 Episode 5 'The Bells' Review
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Arya stark is so smart, becoming a faceless brick, cercei never seen her coming !
Admiral Lucius best comment
that brick was actually the Valoquar
😂😂😂😂😂
That brick patiently waited 8 seasons to make its move.
Never use cheap work for bricks construction lesson learned
I feel like the character arc wasn't earned, but Emilia Clark had a really good performance, which is a plus
Emilia clarke is of course amazing, I hope she does well in future projects
K den agreed. Clarke is not a bad actor, but in general I don’t think she’s as consistently good as some others on the show. In this episode, she was completely dialed in. I loved her performance.
@@danielc3321 I agree completely and I think it shows her at her best
Shes been carrying this season imo. Even though they assassinated her character smh -_-
@@quantumwitcher9376 I'm not really mad at the writers I'm just dissapointed
Cersei walking past Clegane brothers like"excuse me... Don't mind me" Had me laughing out loud lmao
Arya should have killed Cersei. I don't understand why Dany didn't stop at the Bells ringing! Martin will do a much better job in the last 2 books.
Would have been WAY cooler if he'd just snapped her neck casually....better than that lame scene with Jamie for sure.
Sandor wasn't interested in punishing or killing Cersei. He was entirely focused on finally paying back his brother for his disfigured face, ruined childhood and later life and a couple of lifelong traumas, the worst of which was his fear of fire. It's a shame though, because in seasons 6 and 7, his character had developed quite favourably, away from just being that ruthless killer that was the Hound. He hadn't become a saint, but even when he confronted his brother during that meeting in King's Landing, he didn't really seem to care much about his vengence. I actually felt that some characters had undergone a reverse development due to stupid and illogic script writing, and the Hound was one of the characters that suffered quite badly from that. The plot holes in season 8 are generally so large that the Night King with all his White Walkers and the entire Army of the Dead could march right through them completely unnoticed.
ME TOO, ACTUALLY. LOL
@@christophertracy7272 IMO, DAENEY AND GREYWORM HAD THEIR OWN PLAN. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.THEY WERE GOING IN FOR REVENGE.
Euron: I'm the man who killed Jaime Lannister
Redkeep: Brickarys
😅😅🤣
This is getting cringy
You need way more likes
Dragonfire 400000 kills
Bricks 350000 kills
Greyworm 10000 kills
Jaime Lannister 1 kill
UGH. CAN'T STAND THAT GUY.
The writers piss me off but i won’t be pissed at the actors. They do a damn good job.
The acting and directing and cinematography was amazing. The set alone was a masterpiece. The weak point was the writing by far.
I mean, Peter Dinklage already wasn't exactly subtle when he pointed out how dumb it was for ep3 to have the most vulnerable people in the crypts, given your enemy can raise the dead. And the beauty of it is it's in officially released BTS show material that he says it lol
INDEED
specially Dany, Love the calm and then her wrath moment ♥
The music really is what saves the show
The slow turn of Nerd Soup against this show has more character development than the show did.
Unlike most people I’ve seen, Nerd Soup is actually trying to be fair and isn’t just joining the hate mob because it’s trendy
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Ultimate Hope sorry friend, but it’s not a “hate mob.” People have a reason to be annoyed, season 8 is an insult to those that possess a brain.
@@danflak6363 It's not annoyed mate, they are losing their god damn minds. It's a fucking TV but peeps acting like they are personally broken. Jesus it's tv, go and google refugee camps in Africa, you can cry for real people.
Duolingo Owl There are legitimate criticisms I understand and some that I even agree with, but a lot of the people I’ve seen hating on the show are doing so because of nitpicks and are completely ignoring the positive aspects. I have seen so many people and comments say the term “bad writing” in the past two weeks with so few of them being justified. Like Aaron said in the Episode 4 Discussion, it feels like people want to hate the show and are looking for every possible reason they can find to not enjoy it. As a lover of the show, it’s just sad to see everyone turn this suddenly. Ever since Episode 3, it has been constant negativity no matter where I look. There are some good reasons for it, but after a certain point, it just became ridiculous how negative people were and still are being.
I'm honestly still upset that Jaime said that he never cared for innocent lives when he literally became the Kingslayer to save innocent lives.
Tall Geek exactly
They absolutely butchered his arc.
@@Anna133199 and apparently Grew back his right hand in scene with him hugging Cersi at the end...the show runners defintely gave lil F*CKS this season.
IKR. It sounded like some smart alecky thing he USED to say. I don't get it
@ROOTSCONTRA This. Jaime didn't think he was redeemable. His comment was dripping with self-loathing. Ironically, the reason he died was that he did care about innocents, and what he'd done to them. His arc was the only one that wasn't ruined by bad execution and was probably closest to GRRMs plans for him. Could have done without the Brienne sex , it would have worked as friendship based on platonic love. Also no Euron fight, leave him for Yara or Drogon.
Jon: Hey pls dont burn the cty
Jon: ??
Dany: Hey sry didnt c ur txt. Was burning the city lol?
😅😅😅😂😂😂😭
😆😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏽
Jon: hey pls do not burn the city to the ground
Dany: yupyup
...
Jon: wtf?
Jon: hello?
Jon: dafuq?
...
Dany: oh shit
Dany: didn't see the "not" in there
Dany: hard to read while flying!
@@sorsocksfake Bahahahaha
When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong
HAHAH
Remember when Daenerys put her dragons in chains when she just heard they killed one child.
Westerosi Lives Matter
Remember when Daenerys would burn people alive, feed them to her dragons alive, lock people in a safe never to be let out and slowly die, how she crucified people and let them slowly die (because sinking to their level is totally a good tactic) and said "I will take what is mine, with fire and blood." ? Yeah.
@@blacksesamecandies she never did that to people who were innocent
@@blacksesamecandies Yeah i remember all those people were her enemies that threatened her life and also adults...
Remember when she burned every khal in vias dothrak? Or when she told the council of quarth that she would return and burn the city to the ground?
Turns out, the Night King was trying to save Westeros from Dany
Ice and Fire are both evil, so not exactly.
Yup. The NK in some convoluted way was trying to get Jon on the Throne.
Okay that WAS funny.
Mike Zarka 😂😂😂
Would've been a great twist if the night king actually had to attack because Bran was actually the real villain. Or something where you realize this whole time the night walkers were the real good guys
Rickon Stark with more screen time than the Golden company.
Tbf, if they didn't call them the Golden Company, and just said "we have hired 20 000 sellswords" you would be one of the people that wined the GC would not have been included. So just shut up if you have anything meaningful to say.
@@Lancor84 He's not wrong though. They changed so little it is laughable
GC got snoked
actor playing the lead of the Golden Company: "Damn, I think my screen time might be about the same as Cersei's was for the final season, I got paid about 4 days worth of scale, she got like 7 million. Where's that number for my agent again..."
@@jackgreenway4646 Although honestly it did bother me a little, just one more bad logic detail of mostly everything related to the giant crossbow things -- it was bad enough that over in the bay they had like 87 of those things yet seemed to only fire about one at a time (it may not have been that extreme but played like it at the time), but then when the show the GC soldiers gradually start to hear something behind them, as in coming from the inner part of the city, Drogon was right in direct sight line (& lower than it seemed he was over the water) with many of the spear things mounted on the outer KL wall, why were none of them firing at him? I can accept that they may have eventually gotten burned, but that seems like it would've been a high probability shot.
Cersei has done nothing all season other than staring out of window, and I hate how they made one of the most interesting and greatest character arcs boring and unfulfilling
Mia Rasmussen So disappointed circumstances got off easy😡😡😡😡
Circi bitch got off easy
And got fucked for a Viking don't forget!
Damn that sucks you didn’t enjoy it
Emelia Clark did a great job with what she was given.
Very true
yep, she's a great actor, though her character was an unlikable, arrogant piece of cunt since season 3 or so imo
898888
Overrated actress
Her acting is dogshit mate. Sorry it's dog shit
Never forget Samwell Tarly killed more people than the Golden Company combined in this episode.
Lyana Mormount got more kills than the golden company lol
Ahahahahaha!
@Donald Smith I think Arya must be pretty close since she avenged the red wedding and killed all them Freys, lol, if you count the night kings army she far surpasses even Ser Bronns kill count
does killing edd count?
Well he is Sam the slayer!
Everything changed when the fire nation attacked..
Rosa Cento only the avatar, master of ice and fire could stop her, but when the city needed him most, he panicked.
1 day has passed, westoeros lords got ravens and discovered the new heir a north man named jon
😂
Rosa Cento Everything changed when the bad writers attacked
Jon would be a terrible ruler
Shit writing. Loads of ppl saying the same thing, it's not THAT she went full Mad Queen, it's that it was handled so poorly.
Mach Mach it was perfectly done, everyone that’s pissed its because they wanted a different ending to their character. It has nothing to do with writing.
@@Kenny-qo5tz Not true. I wanted her to go full Mad Queen after all that has happened. What better final villain than one we're invested in (Knight King didn't have the screen time to have the weight compared to Danny being the final boss) plus there's facing off against her dragon. I just wish she was on the brink of failure then turned Mad Queen as a final culmination of her desperation is all. Nothing to do with the writing huh, well... have you been reading fans responses to season 8? You've gotta admit it's a bit rushed to say the least. HBO even offered more time/financing but D&D wanted to wrap it up to get that Star Wars contract.
@@machmach5006 they could've done a better job showing her change and I don't agree with her switch being so abrupt, but I have heard a single point that defends her decision: she wanted to establish her claim over Jon, not by right but through fear and force. I still don't see it as necessary, but it does make it easier to accept
@@rockkickass3509 That is a great point, glad you shared it, helps a bit LUL. Would have been great if she stared his ass down for a minute before she established her dominance.
@@machmach5006 it doesn't help much. I like the mad queen idea too, I just need more than she burns her enemies to she slaughters civilians she believes she rightfully rules without an equal reason to her actions. Maybe she just hates bells
Varys spent his entire life learning how to plan and scheme and survive among the aristocracy, then goes "HI JON SO WHAT IF WE JUST KINDA UUUUHH TREASON?!"
I think he got a little cocky and desperate. He played the game well, but maybe a little too well here
Nordfjord what else could he have done honestly what else could he do against someone who has completely lost their mind she barely needed convincing to kill him anyways he knew he was dead either way he made his choice knowing it would be the death of him one way or another
@@sergiomendoza4040 She hadn't lost her mind yet! And he sat on the small council for fucking JOFFREY and went about his business slow and steady
Sergio Mendoza maybe wait for her to actually lose her mind?
Betraying her became like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Call her mad and betray her enough and that’s what will happen
Littlefinger 2.0
Lena Heady got 1 million an episode for sipping wine staring at a window for a whole season . Give me that job
I think the five main characters all got $2.5 mil an episode, so I read somewhere...
Love your thinking
and all other episodes you have to do exactly what she did. Still considering?
Nobody can look out of a window and drink wine like Lena Heady
She earned it all in that moment she realizes she lost. That was a powerful scene
Literally so many theories on who would kill Cersie, but no one expected a pile of bricks.
Expectations subverted.
EXACTLY! YOU ARE SOOOOOOO RIGHT. TERRIBLE!
@DRACARYS FIRE bahahahaha
i liked it, see it as her kingdom falling down on her.
DRACARYS FIRE I kinda like parts of it, like we saw another human side of cerise, her fear and dread at her imminent death, it wasn’t bad. I definitely didn’t hate it as much as Arya killing the night king
Jaime and Cersei were born in the same womb and were buried in the same tomb
A day will come when we think we are safe and happy, and our joy will turn to ashes in our mouths. And D&D will know the debt is paid.
Quite possibly my favorite review for the whole of season 8. Succinct, poetic, and to the point, friend. Cheers.
D&D should be pubished
It would have been fine if Dany went mad queen lvl. 30 and killed some civilians that cersai were using as a human shield. Even that is a bit of a stretch but I can stomach it. What is not fine is Dany going lvl. 5000 mad queen and taking a half hour to burn down the majority of Kings Landing after it had already surrendered which only served to give Cersai a chance to get away.
This is why you don't name your children after characters in unfinished stories people.
Donald Smith that some other hypothetical story exists out in the ether that justifies mad queen lvl. 5000 doesn't make this story we actually got any better.
Hahahaha could you imagine naming your kid Dany? Omfg.
You’re exactly right, it’s not the fact that she went Mad Queen, it’s that she did in a way that had absolutely no logic to it
@Donald Smith You're exactly right. It makes sense and it's been foreshadowed since the beginning, it just felt rushed as a result of fewer episodes. Nevertheless, still makes sense.
@Donald Smith Yes
Turns out "Valonqar" is High Valyrian for "Pile of bricks." It's also very clever that Valryian words are gender neutral, just like bricks.
Valonqar was never a show thing.
Well Daenerys is the younger sibling and she did cause her death so
LOL
Jago Sevetar prophecies are usually vague and wrong
Nice
The bells for Daenerys were more like: “Execute order 66”
Dahrk "DO IT"
Drogon and the Unsullied: "It will be done my lord"
Gooooooood. Your hate has made you powerful.
I'm sorry to ask, sorry - would you please explain execute order 66'
I’ve also seen that Jeremy Jahns video
I think Cersei should get her money back with the Golden Company.
It only showed a couple hundred dying, there are thousands in the golden company, so they are probably marching for Winterfell.
@@AssWhole-u6d Marching for Winterfell... right... not totally decimated and running for dear life in every direction.
Those poor dudes were completely mismanaged. What were they doing outside the city walls anyway? And then it's not like the air defenses held up at all. Those guys were completely wasted.
@@christiangallien3730 They were sent to Winterfell before the battle, almost all 20 thousand of them. They won't even know the war is over by the time they are done taking over Winterfell. Thats the only way to explain why we only saw a thousand of them at most at King's Landing.
@@AssWhole-u6d Haha, you know, after seeing all these dothraki and unsullied that survived the NK, there's no reason to think the Golden Company is all dead, cersei might even be alive still, haha
i liked arya running through the chaos but i hated the 374th fakeout death scene
Seriously, just like they did in the Long NIght episode with the all the fakeout death scenes, they're crying "Wolf" too often!
@@kaizen5023 lol yeah they had like 17 near deaths for almost every character
There is no tension because her life or death is based on what the writers wanted, not on what actually happened to her.
If they just didn't cut away after each one. Having the explosion of debris and knock her to the ground but keep the scene on her as she stumbles to feet again to keep running. Build close calls but keep her moving like all the civilians around her. But instead it felt like after each one it was a cut to different character.
To be fair, there are plenty of fake-out death scenes in the books
That shot of Cersei walking on the map while the keep crumbled around her was perfect. Her world literally falling apart.
I totally thought Arya was still gonna be there by the time Cersei came down and kill her.
Meanwhile, she got a quick death. Not so perfect.
Yeah... Im sure that's the reason D&D put that set piece in there all those years ago! Just for that shot. Genius! /sarc
THE CRAZY GUY No u
The Red Keep is the hero who killed Cersei, for that it should be given Harrenhal as a reward.
And to whomever chops off the mad queens noggins no reward is too great.
The Red Keep basicly IS Harrenhal now.
HaHa
I Agree.
If you think about it Cersei always wanted to be a man and the Lord of Casterly Rock. Then gets killed by a Rock, symbolising how her ambition was too great and eventually overcame her.
Lol jk, just bad writers.
I think that we all need to come to grips with an uncomfortable truth:
DAVOS SEAWORTH IS THE GREATEST WARRIOR THAT WESTEROS HAS EVER SEEN.
The man has survived:
Battle of Blackwater Bay
Battle at the Wall (wildlings)
Battle of the Bastards
Battle of Winterfell
Battle(?) of Kings Landing
Not only has he survived, but he's always been in the middle of the fighting, and he's NEVER EVEN BEEN INJURED.
We just need to admit it. Offscreen, Davos is a complete badass.
maybe every person he fought was a shitty swordfighter so he just got lucky
his knuckle bones bring him luck
@@Madtv50 Maybe, but not really buying it... He survived full-on charges against trained Lannisters, Bolton, AND the indefatigable DEAD. Even Barristan Selmy didn't do that on the show.
That brother is just WRECKING SHOP offscreen... 😉
Praise the Lord of Light
Not once have we seen him kill anyone during any of those battles so "greatest warrior" is a bit of a stretch. Luckiest man - that I'd agree with.
Through out the whole episode. Tyrion was sub-consciously screaming "Fuuuuuuucccccccckkkkkk"
like welp V was right
Lol
Charles Holmes 😂😂
I felt like jon was saying "What is she doing??????"
@@4knewt505 i feel like jonno was fucking pissed. like "I LEFT THE NORTH FOR THIS?! I SUPPORTED YOUR CAUSE FOR THIS?!" damn.
The best part of every episode is the nerd soup review
Yep.
The best part of waking up is nerd soup in your cup 🎶
OllIe Swanson especially this one
OllIe Swanson the shilling is insane in this nerd soup episode
@@omensoffate just this episode?? Lol
It's so weird watching Dany burn children alive. In Mereen, she locked up her dragons after Drogon burned one kid.
If we consider dany to be manipuating psychopath then locking up the dragons could just be interpreted as a show to calm people down. Every time dany couldnt get what she wanted she had relied on violance
@@The3p3hr Also people whinge that Viserion and Rhaegal shouldn't have been so easy to kill, because full grown dragons could barely be taken down. The thing is, they weren't fully grown. Their growth was stunted by being locked up. So, their deaths was Dany's fault too if you think about it.
@@TubsyWubsy And neither Viserion nor Rhaegal were being ridden (controlled).
Amanda A yes,in Mereen. People loved her there. Here - not so much. She lost everything trying to gain their trust and love and they still hate her and they’re still afraid of her. So she went off.
A lot of people saying they destroyed denaerys arc because she acted irrational. Give a woman a dragon and tell her to calm down let see how long you last.
“She’s not eating...”
“We’ll try again for supper.”
Lord Varys was attempting to poison Daenerys.
Yeah, I didn't pick up on that the first time I watched it. It was quite understated.
It would have been awesome if Dany made the little girl eat her food.
Yeah, I didn’t get that part... so did Dani just not eat from then until Kong’s landing- at all?
@@jessicachanning2447
Yeah, she should of had a snickers
There's a theory that he succeeded.
That he poisoned her but not lethally. Just to send her raving mad... If that's true, maybe he poisoned her father.
Jon never showed he lost part of his mind after he cameback from death, others did. But, this season I started to see that, because everytime he opened his mouth, he said "You are my queen". Hodor 2.0 confirmed
Ring the bell! Ring bell! Rinbel!
Sometimes you have to tell women shit they want to hear so they'll calm the fuck down lol...she did nothing but whine for 2 episodes about how nobody likes her, and how everyone likes Jon...shes got the emotional stability of a pre teen girl. At one point when she was whinning, Jon even says "you are my queen, I don't know what else to tell you" ...c'mon dude...how many times have we had to say things like that to the women in our lives? Lol
Do you know de way?
Joshua Johnson 🤣😂🤣
He should not have put his finger in that spaghetti
I've been refreshing RUclips constantly since the episode aired waiting for this review
I started after lunch. Lol
nerd soup is the GOAT
Same here
Seriously me too
Haha me too.. so.. you wanna go out later?
What i thought would have been better is that Rhaegal didn't die in episode 4 but died in episode 5 while attacking Kings Landing, feel like in that heated moment of dany seeing her dragon die woulda made a bit more sense for her to snap and do what she did. Thats my only complaint
Now that you say, that would have made more sense.
Agreed.
Limas is this “your” idea
@@RawRugby swear on my cats life.
but then they cant subvert your expectations.
if nerd soup is hating on the episode that means it must be trash af........
@@guccifer764 he is in denial, he knows it's bad.
Season 3 Ep5, Jaime to Brienne:
"Burn them all, he said. Burn them in their homes, burn them in their beds. Tell me, if your precious Renly commanded you to kill your own father and stand by while thousands of men, women and children burned alive, would you have done it? Would you have kept your oath then?"
Season 8 Ep5
Jaime: "When have I been able to convince Cersei of anything?"
Tyrion: "Try. If not for yourself, if not for her, then for every one of the million people in that city, innocent or otherwise."
Jaime: "To be honest, I never really cared much for them."
This line right here convinced me that it wasn't just Jaime reverting to his former self, it was totally out of character.
I thought almost exactly that. As soon as he said he didn't care about the people in King's Landing I knew that D&D had lost his character forever. I was so angry with that I couldn't even get invested in the moment between him and Tyrion.
Damn. Cold hard evidence right there
To be fair, that is D&D speaking through Jaime about the fans
@@bobstevenson8852 lol that's funny. Just went back to watch Jamie's amazing scene in the bath with Bri and it is still so good.
Excellent comment on the “progression” of the show
I watched Jon question his life choices for 70 mins
😂😂😂😂😂
Adras Adraki This comment needs more likes 😂
The most expensive extra on tv this season
No one:
Euron: lol 1v1 me n00b
euron was great laughed too hard at this
We should've seen a 1 on 1 sword fight between Jon and the Night King! So what did Varys hear in the flames?
@@christophertracy7272 he heard bran in the flames. bran said "yo I worged into yo mom and made her smoke crack and then I worged into yo dad and banged that crackho lol get rekt" and varys was like "omg no pls goerge martin pls nerf this hacker noob overpowered".
happy end
This whole episode was comedy gold.
Debate me in the ring bro.
If Rhaegal didn't die to Euron but instead he died due to a betrayal... for example if the bells rang and as Dany flew to the red keep with her dragons Cersei ordered a well hidden Scorpion to kill Rhaegal.
Something like this would have made more sense especially if the Lanister soldiers were cowardly and hiding amongst the civilians. Just a small change that could make a difference.
yaaaaas great example of a trigger of her madness - and the audience would be triggered because it was a dragon so we would be waaaay more invested.
@@claudiabiddle4259 Glad you agree, it wouldn't be a huge change but it'd make a difference right?!
Better than seeing Rhaegal get shot with 3 pin-point bolts way up in the sky from Euron and his crew. Nice video on your channel by the way, haha.
if they make this small change she won't be able to burn the city
@@airrloww Why not? If she sees the Lannister army used the bell to lure Dany, her dragons and her army into thinking they've surrendered and suddenly the army attack while using civilians as fodder and her dragon dies.
It would be more reasonable than just burning them for the sake of fear and only fear going street to street mowing down innocent men, women and children in dragon flame.
Also makes Cersei look like she had more of a plan than just a lucky shot at a Dragon.
@@Davemate well, cersei didn't have other plans everything in this battle was about the dragon as we did see drogon did everything alone. if he was dead they will be equal and burning the city will not be an option.
Dany isn't like her father, she actually managed to burn them all, unlike her dad.
lol...
True.
Dad wanted to burn it all down after he was losing - she just did it for the f of it after winning the battle - and she didn't even aim it at the red keep - at cersei.
@@claudiabiddle4259 because when you want to destroy everything, you actually destroy everything. Literally. And everyone was happy about Missandei Dracarys, now everyone is questioning the Dracarys. Dracarys and Burn them all means exactly this: burn-them-all. All, like A to Z all.
Predictions for last episode-
Arya kills Dany
Greyworm kills Arya
Jon kills Greyworm
Drogon joins a support group
Gendry could sit on the throne and Sansa might marry him to become queen. Arya wouldn't care she will probably end up leaving Westeros anyway.
bran worgs into drogon and plummits him to his death
Lmfao Grey Worm is no match for Arya.
Itll only get worse if you read tbe leaks. Its going that route
@@jbar85jb22 almost all the leaks have been bonkers lol
The fact that Jon's men follow grey worm and not Jon WHO HADN'T GIVEN THE ORDER TO ATTACK.....oof.
thats what war does turns good men into beasts our history is full of it
I can understand why they did, the worst atrocities of antiquity happened during sacks after a siege. Your blood's up, you see the enemy in front of you while remembering your dead friends and you just lose it. You can't keep control of soldiers during a sack, only punish the ones who stuck out afterwards.
Well not much they could have done. Grey worm already started the fight back up
The North remembers.
@@sam101497 Jon should've fucking said something. Oof
Grandmaester Pycelle: “I bear this girl no ill will, but should the Dothraki invade, how many innocents will die? How many towns will burn? Is it not wiser, kinder even, that she should die now so that tens of thousands might live?”
Donald Smith *If Tywin was alive
Zanzibar Breeze The old geezer got it right.
Donald Smith that’s not true. Dany would have come to KL either way. You can’t know what Dany would have if somebody else was on the throne. Imagine if it was Stannis or Geoffrey 🤣
Zanzibar Breeze exactly and all it does is show how wrong Ned Stark was, and how Ned’s decision to leave Dany has ended up with thousands dead. Which I fucking hate
@@StokeseyHD You can't just judge a decision by its consequences,
Ned WAS right, killing someone for things they MIGHT do is morally wrong.
Varys was trying to food poison Daenerys, that was his real move. Telling Jon was his plan B.
LOL i was actually thinking yhay whilst watching that scene, was my guy trying to poison her?
Oooooh, I didn't think of that! Good point! She wasn't eating because of grief, but now I think it's also that she knew he would be trying to kill her. "Beware the perfumed seneschal".
Bullshit. Not eating is supposed to show how's she's not doing well mentally. Stop trying to shoe horn "cleverness" isn't this shit episode.
Technocratic awwwww is the poor witto baby a witto grumpy pants because a television show wasn’t exactly what he wanted?
lmao get a life dude
@@FinnishFuturist i mean if you didnt like the episode thats fine but watch that scene again. The little bird says they're watching her, Varys tells her the greater risk yhe greater the reward, the way Varys says "we'll try again at supper." Subtle but not far fetched
I guess the 7 people who laid a bet down in the offseason that Greyworm of all people would still be alive for the series finale are pretty much financially set for life now.
More to the point, Greyworm *and not Varys*
@@TheSchaef47 He certainly had shorter odds than the likes of Greyworm, but honestly before the run even started I wasn't really expecting Varys to make it to 8x06. maaaaybe if he was the subject of like a really big surprise twist (which just for a moment I did wonder if that would happen, partly because Drogon seemed to take quite a bit longer to vomit flames than he usually has once Dany gives the order, just for a hot second I thought maybe he wouldn't at all)
There's still one more episode and Greyworm is on the wrong side.
I would have bet that and so would millions of others, why would u bet on him dying? He's a badass on the better side...
@@Fabo100 He is a badass, and one of the most believable characters, but he just commited genocide along with his Queen. Unsullied aren't supposed to feel or make connections so that they remain docile and obedient, but it also stops them from being monsters.
Jorah made the point that the Unsullied would sack no city, burn no village, rape no innocent unless she told them to. As they became free and became free to love and form attachments, they also became vulnerable to loss - and we've seen just how that loss has turned him from a defender of innocents into a vengeful warrior. A victim that has become the perpetrator.
It was the look that Grey Worm gave to Jon when he began calling for his men to stop attacking the surrendered Lannisters that makes me feel like they're at odds with one-another and might end up dueling if Jon and Daenerys end up on opposite sides.
King Joffrey: Don’t you think we should do something about this Daenerys girl and her dragons?
Kings Landing: 🔥🔥🔥
King Joffrey: 🤷🏻♂️💀
Joffery was a saint compared to Dany now.
Brian Achim hell no, imagine if Joffrey was able to use a dragon
Oh wow. Forget that one. TRUE
I so hate that Dany proved Robert Baratheon and EFFING JOFFREY of all people right!
@@brianachim2670 haha good joke
They should have ended the NK arc in season 7 and focused on dany becoming the mad queen this season
Ye, it would only work if both seasons (7&8) had 10 episodes, there was simply not enough time to develop both characters, so their did not develop neither of them
True. Then this wouldnt seem so rushed
i agree, if there was one season for the NK and one for dany development w 10 full episodes and mayb even another season, it would have been much befter
How would you do a whole season on the NK? I just can’t think of a way you could do it. That’s why I liked the episode because it was either defeat the night king or die.
zach lapinski like season 7 was good development for it, if season 7 was all dedicated to white walker stuff and mayb 2 eps dealing w the NK directly. i think it’ll be better
I feel like one extra season would have done the show so much justice. Have season 8 strictly be about the knight king/ battle for the living, then have a whole season depicting Dany’s downfall... this season feels like 2 separate, three episode seasons which is not good.
@Cleveland White I also wonder if HBO had a hand in ending the show or moving it along in trying to end if before the actors wanted to move on to other projects
Birb Man nah hbo green lit more episodes the show writers declined so they can do the Star Wars trilogy
They should have stuck with 10 episode seasons and none of this would be an issue >_> they destroyed such a good show for the sake of finishing it
I agree more episodes definitely would've helped but I also think more could've been done with the episodes they got and really it comes down to the bad quality writing. The season rushes important things but takes a lot of time for filler (i.e. Arya's sideboob, multiple dick jokes, an entire episode of goodbyes only for most of them to survive, etc)
I was literally saying this after episode 3, but hey money rules the world i guess.
Varys was trying to poison Dany in the beginning of the episode. He said "we'll try again during supper" and sent her back to kitchen. I caught it during my second watch of the episode. Idk how I missed it the first time!
Amber Rigsby LMAO! WTF VARYS IS A SICK FUCK
God damn
Mr Ngu-Tang Clan or at this point in the show the most sane, brave and noble man. Which makes no sense for the spider. Again another character who we will never fully get to understand. Through out the whole show he served “the realm” but we as the audience always saw the true game player behind the facade. Now this season he just becomes this altruistic martyr.
With how easy Dany won that battle with 1 Dragon and half of her Unsullied and Half her Dothraki Army in just a couple of hours, really makes you wonder why she didn't just take Kings Landing on a the weekend before going North to fight the dead. They could have easily gotten it out of the way, on their way and still defeated the dead and still won the Game of Ashes, I mean Thrones.
Hindsight is easy
Because they needed a season 7 lol
Agreed. The logical thing to do would be 1:Land on Dragonstone, 2:Let her army rest from the long journey of crossing the narrow sea,3: as soon as everyone is good to go head over to King's Landing and take it.
Because she had to kill everyone.
@@trueandika she didn't tho. The battle was won with, at least what appeared to be, almost exclusively soldier deaths. It wasn't until after they had already won that she went full mortal combat on the city
I'll admit it - I cried when Tyrion said buh-bye to his bro. Jamie was his champion. For the most part. His only one.
All Tyrion ever wanted was a sense of belonging to a FAMILY. He was turned away by his father and his sister with contempt. Jamie had a soft spot for Tyrion and saw him as family. That's why the scene where Tyrion finds Jamie and Cersei is heart tugging. He now has no family.
It was an ok scene until Jamie said he didn't care about the people.Right then it just pissed me of.
Hats off to the people still making theories. Y'all have faith stronger than I can fathom
Oh dear. It's a television show. You should place your faith elsewhere.
@@Thechezbailey ....k
@fantasticmoose same here. I just stick with my OG favorites and ignore most of the rest.
@@_k_n_ yeah I stay FAR FAR away from any recommendations RUclips makes
@fantasticmoose lol you are pathetic looser
It should be cersei that get mad when she hears a bell.... Not danny
Ding ding shame
Ding ding shame
likelyladsss ok this made me lol
And then what? She becomes the one to ride the dragon and kill all the people?
@@ukaszkapusniak9671 No, she sets off the wild fire that's hidden beneath all of kings landing.
That's exactly what I said when I heard about the leaks. We all laughed at how ridiculous the leaks are.
They ended up being true.
Lol i literslly thought as Cleganebowl started: "It's over, he has the high ground"
"It's over anikan I have the high ground"
I’ll never forget the image of a friend of mine burying his head in his hands after Obi Wan delivers that line.
@@Arbatov That line wasn't really that unforgivable to me, that was ok, bad - but not complaining.
But "I HATE SAND. It's COARSE, AND IT GETS EVERYWHERE!" from Anakin in the most cringeworthy romance in all of blockbuster history was the line that always was 100x worse than all the other ones.
@@Arbatov only the sith deal in absolutes
That was a mindfuck in a bad way.
That scene was ripped right out of Highlander! Sean connerys fight with Clancy Brown!
The look that Dany had on her face when she decides to burn Kings Landing is the look I've had while watching this whole season.
Harry Strickland, such a memorable character
I completely missed that Varys was probably trying to poison Dany when watching the episode.
I thought it was very obvious.
That’s why he focused on her eating habits
me either and now im not sure if it was good or bad writing given everything surrounding it in the show.
Which is the stupidest fucking idea conceived by possibly the smartest man in Westeros.
Wait? What? I missed that! Where can I find that being pointed out?
The GOT Writing this season has even broken Nerd Soup.
And Alt Shift X in some ways
I'm almost halfway through the video and they've mostly said good things
@@Maxisamo1 Keep watching.
@@Maxisamo1 really? I watched the whole thing and other than clegane bowl(which I thought was dumb) it felt like the majority of the episode they were against. Sure they liked the visual effect, directing, and cinematography but the most important thing is story and character and that ship sunk.
Which is suprising because they were even optimistic last episode :(
Just thought I'd remind people that Edmure Tully is still alive. And has yet to be released from prison.
Fuck that no nuts panzee.
@@jakewright1932 what the fuck are you on about
@Liz Lee isn't he the dude who sold out the blackfish?
Edmure tully is chilling his ass of in Riverrun with wife and son.. when all this shitfest ends he will be luckiest man alive, able to live his life in peace and harmony . go rewatch season 6.
@Liz Lee think about it though. If Edmure had followed the plan they could have captured and killed the Mountain, which would have changed SO many things. Tyrion's trial, Cercei and the sparrows, a lot would have changed if The mountain had died in the Riverlands.
Every time I open one of these reviews the gods flip a coin
Just wait till one of these reviews mounts a dragon.
Not with Nerd Soup ... they always have their pink goggles on.
Arya: im going to kill cercei
dany: im going to kill cercei
brick: hold my beer
Dany: I'm going to kill brick
Dany actually did it. Or why were these bricks falling?
@@_Shadoh_ true
isnt this a joke though? why so serious
Hahahaha
The worst thing is that HBO offered them ten episodes, but refused and said no, we only need six
wow
I heard it was 2 seasons with 10 episodes each and they took 1 season with only 6 episodes
I still don't understand why someone would choose less time to tell a story. To choose 6 episodes (shortest of every season) is crazy, especially when the network offers you MORE time.
Sunil Permaul they got the Star Wars job. They didn’t care and just wanted to leave. It’s a shame
@@uzzieb9984 They should have passed on the show to other producers. I'm sure there would have been a long line of suitors.
Daenerys, as from the very start of the show, has always taken the cities she took without war..
She burnt the leaders, the masters, the kings, sometimes without even a warning.. she just killed the people in charge and took charge herself.
Why is it so reasonable , for this specific character, to not have done the same thing with Cersei when she arrived to Westeros?
Why did she not fly to KL and burn the palace down, even from the beginning of season seven? I haven’t yet understood why three dragons weren’t enough to take Cersei out of the picture without war, either by killing her or forcing her to surrender. Obviously, from this episode, one dragon was enough to kill everybody she need to kill and the palace was destroyed and fell on their heads.. What if she had gone to KL with three of them? Her enemies wouldn’t even have the time to go down the stairs of the palace if they refused to surrender... nobody would have to go and bring a zombie to convince Cersei to join them in their quest. Nobody important to her would have to be put in danger.. there are so many things that don’t make sense to me
Because her advisors gave her incompetent advice. She proposed to do just that, but was told not to.
If she has attacked the city by force with all her forces, she would have seen not like a savior but a bloody tyrant from the people...and in the end in fact, she ends killed like a tyrant and like her father and brother... It's very frustrating that after many years, you are so stupid to don't understand her story.
I'm two years late, but I have to agree. I think the advice to not storm KL with all three dragons was poor advice. Maybe it would have been if she were not up against a deceitful, murderous tyrant. Cersei was having the Red Keep loaded with citizens to use as human shields. Cersei proved herself unworthy of mercy by executing Missandei. I do not feel you are incorrect in your assessment of Dany's character arc. I personally do not feel it was true madness that caused her to burn the city. It was grief. Grief over Jorah, grief over Missandei and grief over the loss of Jon and her life long quest for the throne. Do those things justify her war crime? Absolutely not, but if there had been time to investigate her break down, I think she would have been made into a sympathetic character .
@@edoardofichera5278 I may be stupid, but I dont see how she would ever be seen as a savior to people in KL, the kingdom has been at war for years at that point, the people have seen kings and queens and would be kings more than they can count at that point. Yet they arent slaves to be liberated. At best she would be seen as a savior for bringing them food from the reach again. at worst she wouldve been seen as an another high born that wants the throne. If were going from a wider perspective, Dany would bring peace if she did that. She had support from the Reach, Dorne and pesumably Pyke, Cersei was at war with literally everyone. At that point anyone except the illegitimate queen Cersei wouldve been better for them. And storming the red keep and the palace with her dragons wouldnt leave Cersei months to prepare her defenses.
Qyburns death was very good . Very frankenstein. The monster kills his creator
What didn't make much sense was for Gregor to just snap out of it and stop obeying Qyburn and Cersei at such a convenient time. It's not like he hasn't seen his brother (Sandor) after he became a zombie. They did meet last season and Gregor didn't show any signs of evening knowing who Sandor was. But here while everything is falling apart around them he recognises him instantly and he just snaps right out of Qyburn's and Cersei's control?
It's hardly important to the overall plot or anything and this season and season 7 for sure have so much bigger issues in terms of integrity and writing than this moment. But still it still felt out of place and they sure made Gregor a tad bit too invincible.
@@RamGuy459 I think the point was The Mountain was never under anybody's control he was just loyal to Cersei and obviously enjoyed all the killing he got to do. His hatred and blood lust overrides his loyalty when he see's his brother.
Nope it was utterly idiotic.
@@Kabodanki that's the whole show at this point
@@RamGuy459 Do you remember in the Dragonpit Gregor walked from Cersei's side to stand face to face with Sandor? He obviously still recognised him.
Jon watching the chaos ensue really echoes how I imagine Ned felt during the sack of Kings Landing by Tywin Lannister
Yeesss. Madness all around.
Agreed
And both men likely felt a measure of guilt at their role in bringing it about.
I thought the same thing in that scene.
Oh yes.. Horrible and surreal for him. War is ugly.
This whole season seemed like D&D just wanted to hurry up and wrap it all up - logic be damned.
Cinematography was a nice job . The writing is utterly abysmal.
Episode 6:
Half of golden company survives and pledges to John
If Jon can pay them.
Anonymous Xaela The golden company was founded by a bastard Targaryen. Aegor Rivers, his dad was Aegon IV.
Jon kills dany and returns to the wall
Bran becomes king
The end
They’re already paid in full to the iron bank. Cersei used the gold from high garden to pay them off
@@ashnar1690 Genius!
Davos put the small boat on the hidden beach for Jamie and cersie to escape..
Don't worry. I'm sure half of the people in King's Landing are still alive.
I wonder how many of those dead were important lords.
Oh she'll be executing survivors next ep
I know you are beeing funny. But yes, at least half of all people will be alive. People overestimate the casualties in these battles.
waah waah waah Babies on youtube crying about got. Yet they will watch it 50 times!! hahahaha
Perfectly balanced...
Arya: I've been planning on killing Cersi for a billion years.
The Hound: Don't do it.
Arya: You're right. Peace out!
Yeee. And she would've had a perfect window too.
I don't know, that window looked pretty high up in the tower
Sandor held Arya just like Ned did in the first season, that fatherly touch could mean a lot for an orphan.
@@TheSchaef47 cersei literally came down to the floor map area.. only if arya had waited for her there... guess she has to kill some other green eyes now.
Lol Arya killed all of house Frey and baked sons into pies to feed to their father I think she's already pretty far gone on the revenge train.
One thing I loved was Cersei's smugness evaporating so fast when Dany burned the Iron Fleet, scorpions, and the Golden Company.
Yea the plot armor and everything
It’s the same face I had wanted her to make upon seeing the army of the dead, specifically a white walker General, so I was satisfied
@@Gaminating Agreed.
She was still like the army's got this...the red keep has never fallen. When. It was time she shed a tear. A TEAR.just one. She didn't break until it was the end and she knew it. I thought it was a great way to go out.
@@MaynardOwns I loved that aspect. Phenomenal acting from Lena Headey. She was the perfect casting choice for Cersei.
I'm ok with the story turning out this way but these last few episodes have been expedited, this season needed more time to flush out the story.
Yeah those extra episodes could have really solved everything in seasons 7 and 8 both
Two 10 episodes seasons and we would have had a probably more satisfying ending
Dany S4: I feel so bad one little girl got roasted by my dragon.
Dany S8: Let's BBQ every man, woman, child and baby in the city.
its not a problem that both happened, just wasn't transitioned well...
@@craigbishop7918 I agree.
@@craigbishop7918 in the end still shit
Just absolutely sickening. Dany went from my favorite character, a magical STRONG heroic woman to a war criminal.
WHAMEN
Plot aside, Drogon is the best Depiction of a dragon we've seen in Tv/Movie history.
He was awesome
Definitely
Hes not a dragon in our depiction of dragons he is a wyern dragons have 4 legs and wings
@@adnanbrkic7845 off you fuck
Maybe. I just thought it was weird that instead of melting walls with his fire, it punched through them just by breathing on them. Apparently his fire has an explosive element to it, never seen before.
Dany burned down the only shop in Kings Landing that does braids. Great move genius
Bro wtf lol
Hahahahahaha
Stoopid Targaryen
I was convinced that Cersei was gonna pull the wildfire card.
There was def wildfire randomly going off as Dany was torching everyone. Were they hidden and long forgot about from Dany's father or were they strategically placed ordered by Cersei?
She did use wildfire, watch the EP again and U can see green fire exploding in small bursts! Dany was the pissed off Queen, I don't think she's crazy.
@@christophertracy7272 yeah being pissed off is def a good reason to massacre hundreds of thousands of innocents. Fuck off lol, shes crazy. even if the writing sucks, shes crazy
I meant it as in that the wildfire would be a real strategic threat. It was holding my suspense up, because I believed that Dany was putting herself at risk, sitting at the tower and then flying so low. I did see the green flames, it would‘ve been hard to miss.
Angel Pabon Jr that wildfire wasn't being used, it was just simply there and igniting because of the dragon fire. Cersei didn't use anything
So She loses two close friends and now she’s the Mad Queen?!?...burning children alive after wanting to look upon every dead child’s face earlier in the series?!?...wtf!...
and her dragon which is like her child but thats no excuse
2 close friends. Varys tries to poison her and put Jon on the throne when imo he didn't work to be where she is (he's a man so he takes throne kinda crap). Then, they kill her dragon.
The season was rushed, but if they spent 3 or 4 episodes killing the same people, and having Varys betray her the same way, it would have been epic.
Recently she has lost two of her 'children', her two closest friends, her lover rejects her, she sees the people who's family killed her father and took her home, she has recently come out of a horific war with the dead which resulted in many more human deaths, she knows one of her close advisors tried to poison her thus betraying her, she is going through intense grief.... I think you have to go through intense grief alone to understand how she could have reached that point. I think its a bit more than 'flipping a coin'.
*Season 8*
*Acting:10/10*
*Action:10/10*
*_Writing:2/10_*
1/10*
JJJS 0801 It had some good writing but not much.
Writing 8/10
@@darkambrosia1 *Everybody disliked that.*
@@darkambrosia1 yes. Im going with the 8 for writing and 9 for DROGON DAENEY AND ARYA
I could be wrong but I think Dany goes mad queen because she realizes she will never be loved in the way Jon would be. She realizes that she will always be feared and hated when she hears the common people screaming for surrender. So she kills them all as a manifestation of her rage. A rage at being promised a loving kingdom and realizing it will never happen. She might think of herself as a savior, but the people would always view her as a conqueror and a tyrant.
She can easily make them not think she's going to kill them by not killing them. Or even yet landing near them and ordering her soldiers to evacuate them to the outskirts so she can melt the red keep and burn Cersei to a crisp. You can easily show mercy and cruelty but it needs to be dealt where it's due.
I know you're just trying to speculate on what could possibly be going on in her head. I just needa share all these thoughts cuz i'm so frustrated with the writers
Alex Arias yeah I mean I agree with that for sure. There’s no possible way to justify what she did. I think though that she’s always had this madness lying dormant in her. She’s been able to use her rage in productive ways so far, but I think the writers were trying to show that she reached a breaking point. I do think it’s rushed. But I don’t think they destroyed her character or anything.
Genevieve LaMee She wouldn’t be loved in Westeros, but she was loved in Essos. Come to think of it, Aegon the Conqueror wasn’t loved in his time either. I wish she could have remembered that.
Genevieve LaMee she goes mad because the writers couldnt think of anything else to do with her because they cant write good characters
Everything she worked and suffered for, cost her everything. She lost her best friend, her father figure, all her followers trying to get that throne. And the one man she loved, and lost the most for, is the reason she'll never get it. She lost Jorah, Rhaegal, and thousands of warriors fighting for Jon, and he now rejects her after finding out he is the one true heir (and her nephew). She sacrificed everything for this goal, and now the man she sacrificed the most for has taken everything she worked for.
If she cant have it, nobody will.
They had a budget for 10 episodes. HBO WANTED them to have 10 episodes.
Why.
The show creators and lead actors wanted to get it over asap judging by the writing and acting this season.
@@BringbackgAmberleafns yeah the hell they were CAUSE THEY WANNA DO STAR WARS.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
They have that sweet, sweet star wars money coming soon.
@@natesmith2408 dammit lol
They couldn't write the content, clearly as we saw the first few episodes being filler bullshit, they had zero content. Absolute trash
Darkest episode? We all know that was S8ep3....
I don't see what you did there
Can someone just tell me how danys army keeps doubling in size after losing 3/4 in the fight?
Zach Martinez ---Especially the Dothraki. I could see Dario had more unsullied still in Meereen, but they never say anything about them coming. Same with Yara & more ships. Looks like we’ll never hear what Varys heard in the fire, or what happened to that boxed up dude either. Is Lord Glover part of the dead now? Lord Manderly? Why must there always be a Stark at Winterfell? So many things just left hanging.....like the little orphans.
it’s fantasy calm down
@@nastyham5302, that's not an answer. 😂 Return of the King had the huge battle of the Pelenor Fields and followed it by the battle of the Black Gate. You could visibly see the reduced numbers of soldiers left, especially Rohhirim.
This. We see the remaining Unsullied when Missandei was killed. Did Daenerys have more shipped over from Essos?
She gets one bonus Dothraki for every 30 innocent people she kills.
Solid recap. Ten episodes would have made this season not feel so rushed, half-baked: The loose threads, stop-start-forget narratives and abrupt shifts in tone/feel in the story, characters. The acting, directing, everything EXCEPT the writing, has been stellar. But, damn, this writing is glaringly not good.
Even with 10 episodes it'd suck. The quality has gone down since season 5.
It needed another season tbh as well as 10 episodes this season for it to feel right
Tomos Snow season 6 still had great parts because George rr Martin was still with the show as a co-executive producer and consultant. It is painfully obvious that without a source material or George there for them to consult, D & D struggle to write a coherent story.
We’ve had 7 seasons of deep writing. This season is GO time
Next episode be like
Jon: "Just look at the flowers, Dany..." *BANG*
Nah Jon doesn't want to bang Danny now
@@pixelsheep8939 10/10
Her last line as he stabs her in the back: "Remember that waterfall, we should have stayed at that waterfall."
After what she pulled. I would be surprised if she didn't fuck him, even if he didn't want to. You have to be high on your own supply after destroying Cersei with one dragon against 20ish scorpions.
More like look at the throne Dany.
Daenery's: We'll rip Cersi out root and stem.
Bricks: Hold my beer
Ghost had more screen time than Cersei in this season...
KOOL
That's a good thing
Yet they both had crap endings
Just like Cersei and Jaime, Ghost was humping his sister Nymeria
Ghost most definitely did not have more screentime than Ghost lmao Ghost was ghost and was treated like something they could not afford to keep on screen.
Mad king: did you do it?
Dany: Yes
Mad king: what did it cost?
Dany: everything
Mad king: that's my gurl
XD
Alex Griefer hahaha thx Dad 🐉
Alex Griefer
That’s brilliant,
Ha that's funny. I've seen Avengers too so i got the joke like immediately.
I think Peter Dinklage is about to give us his best speech/performance since his trial in S4.
I'm hoping for a big payoff for Tyrion fans! He has been ridiculously sidelined and needs much more of a conclusion than being executed for treason! I know the secret Targaryan arc has it's problems but it had been hinted at, lots of foreshadowing in the books, much less in the show! We've had the red priestess staring at him in Volantis and meeting the dragon's which were ifcourse minor details! However, bit leftfield, but cud his conversation last episode with Bran when he references the saddle he made him, and Bran responds by saying how much he liked the wheelchair as it reminded him of the one that an old Targyryen King made, be prophetic? Either way it wud be horrendous if he has no significance in the final chapter and just fades out!!
He'd better!
Next episode: Tyrone will likely give a speech about cocks and the importance of cocks.
It Will b EPIC
@@nicolarobinson3140 YES. PLS We need to find out what Bran told Tyrion. Heaven knows IM curious.
2 things...
Davos S2E9: "I've never known bells to mean surrender"
Tyrion S8E5: "If the bells ring, that means they surrender."
Aaron: "Is there anything she could say to Tyrion or Jon to... justify her actions in your mind?"
Beau: "Oops?"
(That killed me)
Tyrion tells both Jaime and his own side that ringing the bells will be used as a symbol of surrender in this battle. The fact he has to tell them that indicates that he’s aware it’s not the normal custom, but that he created it as a surrender symbol for this particular battle. I know DnD and this season suck, but that particular point really isn’t a plot hole or contradiction
“God damn it we should have brought the elephants”
-Harry Strickland when he was running away from the Dothraki
xD
It would have been amazing to see burning elephants. Or Jon petting Ghost. CGI is too expensive I guess :-)
@@karltanner3953 can you stop with these generic "oh ghost got no screentime? I guess they had no budget for it" everybody is throwing against this season? Its obvious that its not a budget problem so just watch the god damn season before you throw shit at it. Jesus on every video there are the same braindead comments, just use your brain and stop moving with the crowd
@@mrnjns799 You are so fucking dumb. David Benioff literally said that they underutilized Ghost because it would have taken too much CGI effort. They burned their budget on ridiculous wages for the main actors. Great CGI is very expensive and it's obvious they have made several writing decisions because of budget cuts. Killing Rhaegal, making Ghost disappear every now and again, not having elephants or ice spiders, big as hounds. But hey, at least we got a zombie polar bear that no one really cared about. Maybe use your brain every once in a while and stop acting so edgy.
They should've made it so that Rheagal was wounded last episode.
Then they could've killed him with Scorpions this episode.
That would've fixed some issues. Scorpions wouldn't have been overpowered last episode, there'd be more tensions and concern for the dragons lives this episode. The battle would've been less one sided, and most importantly Dany's turn would've been earned.
Even in that situation it still would've been more sensible to merely go for the red keep. Maybe they could've made it so that blowing up the red keep would've ignited a ton of wildfire that destroyed half the city.
Nico Bruin but you see dude this makes too much sense
You all are so superficial and have only short term vengeance in mind.
Once she won, realizes she won, what she won, what her family died for, she lost, her brother died for, she suffered for with the dothrakis, lost her child, lost dragons, had so juch cruelty, lost her close friends--> she realizes how she hates it. Its the symbol all the pain and evil and suffereing was for, it must go for her.
Nico Bruin dude... love this take.
I feel like it was earned because she doesn't see Westerosi as people the same way as she does for HER PEOPLE. The Essos slaves
One bright side is Daenerys’s amazing Targaryen outfit.
Also Daenerys just killed more people than every character combined!
meh may be Night King can be equale ;)
ck kielce no the Night King had a couple hundred thousand kills under his belt at most during the modern era. His entire kill count could be roughly in the half million range if you add the first long night. Dany just burned down a city of roughly a million souls give or take a couple hundred that were escorted out and saved by Davos and Jon.
By Bronn's logic she should be Empress of the world.
Slays in every sense of the word
Other bright side. This stupid fictional show is almost over.
Does anyone think if Jon had slept with her, instead of pushing her away... the burning innocents alive may not have happened?
Like if Dany got just a little half dragon D might have saved King's Landing? Thanks Jon.
That's where Jon's naivete and sense of moral quality met at a crossroads and in making that decision he helped fulfill the prophecy. In fact, almost all of the actions of people around her that were committed out of paranoia for what she might do, when in reality they forced that reality to happen because it wasn't until she felt entirely alone by the end that she decided that it was just fuck everybody basically. Self fulfilling prophecies are a bitch
2:04 darkest episode? i thought s08e03 is darkest...
hahah
I get it😏😏
I hate your avy
Varys writing that letter rung of ned writing to stannis.
@callmecatalyst yes! Someone got it!
Jon put danearys in the friend zone. Karma for jorah lmao
FourKnightsBoxing I believe Jon put her in the «aunt zone»
@@speaky6113 Probably going to take him some time to get use of it.
Yes, anyone who won’t fuck you and still cares for you platonically deserves to be put to DEATH.
@@MorganCPaige I was just pointing it out as a joke, no need to get upset.
FourKnightsBoxing I’m not upset, being facetious 👍🏾😺
I still don't get everyone's issues with this season. I thought it was perfect.
I've been listening, and really trying to understand, but nobody has been able to articulate why they're SO disappointed, other than the general answer that the events didn't meet or exceed their expectations.
I'm thinking OF COURSE Daenerys used her dragon to burn down the entire city, men women and children alike, despite the bells having been rung signifying her enemy's surrender.
People are so PISSED about this, but of COURSE she did lol she just wasted an entire season, after FINALLY gathering enough strength to set sail for Westeros with a large enough force to actually take the Iron Throne, because she was continuously advised to play by certain "rules"
Rules that her opponents were totally exempt.
So, by the time she's ready to strike, she's lost over half her allies, Unsullied and Dothraki, and two out of three of her dragons, and had to watch Cersei chop her best friend and closest advisor's head off.
And people still expected restraint?! 🤣
And THEN she finds out that the man she has fallen in love with is suddenly her nephew lol and the ACTUAL heir to the crown, and he stops reciprocating her affections while her last remaining advisers begin turning on her in favor of him, just like she predicted they would, all because he couldn't avoid doing the "honorable" thing; defying her pleas to keep his true heritage a secret.
And people are actually questioning why she would "snap" and burn down the city!?!
SERIOUSLY?!?
"But, she WON! The bells were ringing! It doesn't make sense!" lol Yeah! That's the whole POINT. 🤣
And, everyone expected Jaime to kill his sister, who he has also been in love with his entire life, who happens to be pregnant with another of his children, because doing anything else "goes against his character arc"?!?
What "character arc" have these people been witnessing? lol he's been the SAME dude from when he pushed Bran out the window until the Red Keep collapsed on his head!
Cersei didn't deserve a "cooler" death after all the horrible things she's done to so many good people. And, Jaime only deserved the right to die in her arms.
People are disappointed because they had WAY too much time between seasons to come up with their own narratives about who these characters are in their heads, and when it didn't happen that way they blame everyone else lol instead of their own lofty unrealistic expectations!
But, despite ALL that, what happened HAPPENED.
THIS is the story, from beginning to end, whether people agree with the decisions that were made or not, there is no "wishing" it away.
You can either accept it for what it is, or allow it to ruin your enjoyment. But, no amount of whining or complaining is going to change it.
It was good enough to keep people invested back when the main protagonist was beheaded at the end of season one, and through the mass slaughter of his entire family only a couple of seasons later.
And I, for one, still believe it's good enough to stay invested after seeing the new "protagonist" pushed into doing something so egregious that the other main protagonist has to face the consequences of being sent back to the Night's Watch for stabbing her in the heart.
George R.R. Martin said the ending would be "bittersweet" and that is EXACTLY what it was.
But, I gotta say, I'd be much more disappointed myself if NOBODY was talking about it at ALL, though. If there was no debate, that would be a FAR worse endorsement of the overall product than this smattering of disillusioned fans. 👍😊
I would direct you a dude called Mauler. Look him up, watch his video ctritiques. It may help you understand our ire at this show and its poor writing.