Imagine WAVING wrong! What a newb! *sarcasm* As a motorcyclist, I really hate North American motorcycling culture sometimes. Such pretentious shit. Nobody acts like this on a motorcycle in other parts of the world. You're not special because you're riding a two-wheeled vehicle, my dudes.
I once waved like a normal pedestrian, hand way up high, to an old Harley Davidson guy. And he smiled and did the same thing. We both knew it wasn't the normal way. But that smile between 2 fellow squids was well worth it.
@@NavyMitchell I always do the full range/elbow/wrist wave, followed up with a limp wrist at the end. Mid corner, intersection, on ramp, off ramp, car, motorcycle, trike... Just never a slingshot. On a Harley.
Me too. I'm a 50 year old man on a 250cc supermoto (with tacky decals), and I do full-on Forrest Gump waves. It's so much fun being old enough and wise enough to give zero fucks about that stuff, and watching others stress themselves out trying to be cool.
Me too. Its the only time I can get any peace and quiet, and that includes my own mind. My attitude towards everything changes for those miles and I even find myself singing in my helmet. Its nice.
@@rm25088 That feeling is exactly what I'm looking for. I just got my first bike and I haven't done my first ride already but i'm looking forward to it so bad.
I love when other riders give me a normal wave lol i threw the biker wave at another dude on a bike and he snaps his head to me and starts normal waving at me and seemed so happy. It made my day.
I think the reason for it is to not confuse it with hand signals. Like holding your hand up means turning left and holding it straight to the left means left. So they do to the left and down to avoid confusion. (You may have to use these if your lights stop working but you need to keep driving anyway)
Lol or avoid the boomer legends entirely and just wave however is most practical for your current situation. Can't say I've ever cared how anyone waved at me, waves are waves! Also: us winter riders (suck it, seasonal casual riders!) often salute each other with a raised fist. Either as a recognition of our triumph over the weather, or because our elbows are frozen and we can't open our fingers.
@@16Haverson practice putting less and less weight on the handlebars, this will give you a comfier ride and improve your confidence, you should be able to ride with your fingertips only without any issue. By the end you can ride with no hands at all. As long as you’re going over 25mph (lower when you’re practiced) the natural position and forces of the bike means you won’t tip over :) stay safe
@@cyberfux strong recommendation for cold and wet riding: OBR Adv 3/4 grip mitts. They don't block sight and access to handlebar controls but keep wind and water off your hands. 30 seconds to install/remove, so you can just shove em in a bag and install when needed (velcro straps+snaps, no tools)
There is a coolness factor though. Less excited, more chill acknowledgement. If a car creates a gap down the centre of the lane for you, you sling out your hand and grab back at the bar, you don't wave your hand around like a six year old saying goodbye to grandpa' as he backs out of the driveway.
1. 00:28 Waving above handlebars 2. 02:28 Poorly maintained motorcycle 3. 03:54 Knowing what is and what is not a tasteful modification 4, 06:30 Wear the proper gear 5. 07:51 Ride with bad influences 6. 09:10 Commit as a one type of rider 7. 10:23 Being a bad rider
When I started riding in 1969, no one did the two fingers down wave. Riders just held a hand up or nodded. This changed in the 90's to the arm down. That's how I tell who's a new(ish) rider.
I HAVE to ask where you're from, because i learned that you greet with two fingers down in *does complicated math* 1987 (?) or so from my dad who did it all the way back to his army days in the early 60s where he was a motorbike scout (or whatever a Kradmelder is called in english)... Oh yeah, Germany here...
@@cyberfux Complicated math? Don't know what your talking about. I'm in Tennessee. Motorcycles were rarely everyday transportation, mostly recreational and mostly young men, or boys. As the 80's and 90's rolled around more and more people were riding but an established 'wave' was not known, around here anyway.
Started in 1989 Stlouis Missouri, rode sport bikes for 20 years and Harley guys would never wave. Been on Harleys for the past 12 AND NOW WAVES ARE HIT AND MISS. Too many people riding......the hell with wave and too hell with harley, going back to a sport bike. SPEED
Depends on where you live. In Australia people don’t wave at all( Harley riders may be an exception) everybody gives the nod. Except for Harley riders who rarely acknowledge any other rider than a fellow Harley rider. Now I live in Japan and waving is normal and it doesn’t matter what you ride. I can be on my plastic crotch rocket and the dude coming the other way is on a Harley road glide but he’ll still wave at me like a 6 year old out the back window of a school bus. Took a bit to get used to but it’s awesome. Nobody cares what you ride, as long as you’re riding 🖐️
I ride a Honda PCX150 in Melbourne Australia and have never seen anyone do the wave but everyone does the nod except the occasional rider who thinks they are too good to acknowlege a scooter rider.
Tip, if you're getting on a bike you haven't used before, especially if it's a different style, find a parking lot or something and do some eights and emergency stops. Oh, and also do this after a winter stop on your own bike.
I am a boomer(63) and a newbie. Have not rode in over 4o years.(dirt bikes) Decided to get my license. Took the 2 day class in Englishtown, NJ. They also gave the road test. Bought a cheapy Chinese bike online. X-pect 200.I call it my dangerous toy. Great ride, sturdy.
A biker gave me the wave and instinctually I waved back while in a turn and opening throttle. Fortunately I caught myself! I’ve learned to just nod now to reciprocate a lot of waves.
You should practice more. I was on " the snake" in Tennessee, and this guy was flying into the turn and had enough talent to give a nice " above the handle bar" wave. I was shocked. So now when I ride, I practice!
@Lover Of you I went to Moto America at the Ridge and a super stock rider was waving with his topside foot, mid lean through the final hairpin during the cooldown lap.
rule of thumb for waves : Nod in a turn or any angled position of the front wheel or when speed is very low. Wave when it is as safe as if you could go one hand on the handlebar
After riding sport nakeds for the last 12 years, I've decided to switch back to a cruiser. Mostly due to age and injuries plus I miss being able to ride for a good portion of the day rather than just to the coffee shop and back. lol
The pidgeonholing thing is good advice. I'm about to take my first lesson and I've already been pidgeonholing myself into retro bikes and retro-looking bikes. Pretty much decided I'm a Royal Enfield guy that hates sports bikes even though I haven't even started riding yet. You've convinced me to keep an open mind and try some different stuff first.
I got a 2012 Kawasaki ninja 250r for my first bike the other day because I test rode a few bikes in my price range and it was the most comfortable for me... I knew I didn't know shit about bikes but I knew I wasn't going to be stuck with this one forever, it's just to learn on and get to work for me so I just decided to ask a friend to teach me the basics on his bike, took a few different bikes for a little test ride and decided what I felt happy on... The way this ones seat position felt and how when I tucked my knees to the tank just felt right for my height etc... I felt like I couldn't lock myself in as well on the other bikes I tested.
Right?!?! I always liked H.D. and Indian, still like old Indian but now that I own a couple bikes, H.D. doesn't impress me! Still need to ride a sport bike yet. Always gonna love old iron no matter who built it
1:04 Low angle left hand biker-wave doesn’t work in England, Australia, Japan and other left traffic countries. We can’t wave our right hands because we need to hold the throttles. We have to raise our left hands high, so the opposite direction biker can see our hands.
I started off wanting a cruiser bike and then the salesmen at the dealer mentioned a sport bike and after test driving both I actually went with the sport bike even though I never considered it in the first place.
I do two fingers down normally, but I find the traditional wave to be the best if you see someone on an intersection to your left or right, and aren’t actually passing them. Not waving is not an option.
In my country it is absolutely normal to wave by just lifting your hand. More than that, it is really uncommon to wave like they said in the video. I think it is purely US thing.
It absolutely is a US thing. Most don't consider that your on the opposite side of the road and you would have to use the throttle hand to do it like this which is not safe but just wanted to show not all Americans are uncultured lol 😂
yeah. gatekeeping waving on motorcycles is crazy LOL. this video is just pretentious shit that makes beginners feel knowledgeable on something they know nothing about. its like kids hating on civics.
You are entertaining. I have been riding for 22 years or so. I still don't know bikes except for the ones I ride. I am also 100 percent motorcyclist. Don't own a car. Just ride what I ride. Buy new and work it till it dies.
I’ve wanted a bike for 35 years. On my ride home from picking it up I got “the wave” from another rider and I nearly laid the bike down out of excitement and confusion on how to reciprocate. In the end, a subtle nod was all I was able to muster. Hopefully he saw my temp tag. Dang squid🤦♂️
With your left hand is essential as you need your right hand on the throttle! But a wave below the handlebars is INVISIBLE ...if you are driving on the left as in the UK!
I got my first bike in 1967 and have been riding since (no HDs). I think this motorcycle wave is a relatively new thing. I don't really remember seeing it until the early 1990s. Then, at first, it was only between HD riders. Eventually it spread to all riders. I don't like to take my hands off of the handlebars so the most that I might do is lift a single finger from my left hand.
That is what I remember too, having first seen the two finger, pointing downward wave from riders with really high ape-hanger style handlebars. (Earlier than the 90's though.) If your hand was up on high bars you couldn't raise it to wave, you would bring it down. On "normal" bars you just lifted your arm and waved.
Just got my license and I find these so much cooler to watch then literally last week when I didn't, religiously re watching all your beginner videos , much luv ! Thank you for your dedication
I remember one time when I was riding my 1996 Honda rvf400 I past a Harley and did the two fingers pointing down ( meaning keeping two wheels on the ground) essentially ride safe. I fairly certain it’s a common Harley thing atleast here in Australia. But he full on waved me back. I think he likes it hahaha
I wear Icon compression shirt and pants under my regular clothes. The high impact areas have Kevlar-covered D3O for abrasion and impact protection. Breathable and comfortable too.
I give a normal wave if there's lots of traffic around. Some people get pissy if they don't see you throw the 2 fingers out cuz a car is blocking them.
When I was a little kid my grandpa would take me for motorcycle rides on his Honda Gold Wing. He would always do that hand gesture with two fingers way low below the bars to other riders and they always did it back. I thought it was the coolest thing I’d ever seen. I actually loved it so much it became one of the reasons I wanted a motor cycle lol.
The biker wave is a "V" for victory. A lot of US soldiers learned to ride in WWII. When they returned home after the war, they found that the Harleys they learned to ride on were being sold at bargain prices, so they bought one. When they passed other riders of the road, they raised the V for victory, and they probably did raise it above the handlebar. The meaning has been lost over time and has moved out to the side.
I started on two-stroke race replicas. I was a hard-core Moto GP fan. For myself, one of the best decisions I made was getting a dual sport and riding off-road. That improved my riding and gave me a great way to enjoy different paces. Every style of riding has a great side to it. Now, I like cruising on single piston retro bikes. Love that pop and thump. Ride safe!
I live in Australia. No one does the "two fingers down" wave. We drive on the left, so the other bike wouldn't see it. When you see another bike, you just give a nod.
I have to disagree with the waving one. One of my favourite memories riding was pulling up to a large intersection and having a random rider on the other side give a massive overhead wave. I still think about it years later. It was nice. Nice is good. Riding needs good.
Not all countries have the same take on the motorcycle wave. Agree you don't wave as if your waving goodbye to your grandma but here in Australia you give a single hand gustier raised up from the handle bar and then back down or a head nod. Then you hope you may get something back but know you wont if its a Harley rider because they dont wave to anybody.
Everyone talks like Harley riders think they're too cool (or bad ash) to wave. I think they are just afraid to let go of those ape hanger bars and lose control of an awkward, heavy bike with the headset rattling loose and feet in stirrups like they are about to get an exam from their obgyn. At least that was my experience on a Hog. I've never been cooler than I was that day.
Hi, in Australia we do not wave or use fingers, too dangerous. We use a head nod instead, remember that when you visit our country and ride a bike. And yes, a rev is always a fun thing for kids or adults riding a bicycle lol.
What the hell happened to the couple at 6:22? Was there a squirrel? Did they just grab all the brake for no good reason? Or was is some unseen mechanical issue?
If I’m cornering, clutching, or both, when I see another rider, I’ll wave or simply nod at the other rider any darned way I want to. This is the USA 🇺🇸; you aren’t the Wave Boss. The rest is like ‘Yeah, whatever’.
NYET on your waving policy. If you are at a light, holding clutch in, you use your right hand to recognize a fellow squid. You may have to be creative. It's perfectly fine. When I first started riding again, my "waves" were wobbly and uncoordinated. Every experienced rider was there once. It doesn't matter. They think, "Oh, there's a newbe. Just like I do now when I see a rider though a bit wobbly wave. it's cool. He's practicing, it's the least important thing a rider has to learn. They will. Much easier than tight U-turns. It's our "knees in the breeze" that connects us, not how we wave.
I am riding my 34th bike, and i wave above the handlebar. During the last two decades i have noticed this bit weird style getting famous, where you wave downward. In the eighties everybody waved above the handlebar, at least around here. My bike has some stickers too:)
Very true what you mentioned about new riders and mistakes. I want out of my comfort zone ad a newbie and dumped my bike in a ditch. Happily just some minor damage to the bike and I was relatively okay. Bottom line, I went outside the comfort zone on a new bike I was learning the quirks on. Stay safe out there.
In the UK we do a head tilt rather than a wave because waving would mean taking you hand off the throttle (due to us riding on the correct side of the road)
Can't tell you how real that advice is- to keep to your own pace and don't be pressured to keep up with experienced groups. I went through this in the beginning. I'm sitting at the first traffic light of a ~100km ride and immediately get left behind. I'm in my first month of riding and sure, my 400 could actually keep up, but can I? I thought to myself, either I go at my own pace, ignoring them completely, and probably end up looking like a p*ssy. OR, I say fuck it, give it my all and ride fast in a constant state of panic and thrill, to show that I "belong". Well against the advice that I had been given and my gut instincts, I tried to keep up with them. Immediately, my good mate who had invited me to the ride, pulled up in front of me, looked at me and waved adamantly "NO, SLOW DOWN". And so that took all the pressure off me. Him and myself rode behind for the entire journey, and to my surprise - every stop we got off at, the rest of the crew came to check on me, congratulate me and cheer me on for my progress through my first long ride. None of them thought I was a p*ssy or anything of the sort. That's something important that you should realise about the biking community as a beginner, the only ones who will put you down for riding like a "p*ssy" are the ones you need to stay very very far away from, before you find yourself sliding down a tarmac to an uncertain fate. Ride to your own ability, enhance that ability at your own pace, and remember that no moment of thrill on a bike is worth a disproportionate risk of peril. A motorcycle is very intimidating. No matter who you are or what bike you get onto, nobody in this community with more than 5 brain cells will think you're a p*ssy, no matter how slow you ride.
good video. am i the only one who thinks stalling your bike ( like once every 3 months) isnt a beginner mistake? it can always happen, escpecially when your trying to not kill your clutch. happens to car drivers aswell all the time. i dont think thats just a beginner mistake. i bet every motogp rider does it from time to time on their street bikes.
Every couple months or so usually when im backing out i forget im still in reverse and take my foot off the clutch and stall. Makes me feel like a rookie every time haha
we should prioritize having our own fun for such small things instead of centering around what's the "coolest" or "most biker-ish" if you do a goofy wave and get a laugh out of it you're doing the right thing
Just be careful with the two finger wave, below the bars and palm forward is ok but wrong height and palm backwards can get you into a lot of trouble in some countries.
Also be careful what tail tidys yu install and what bikes you install them on. Theres a reason bikes have rear fenders. If you take off you'll soak your back when you hit a puddle. Which is decidedly less cool than the chunky fender imo.
In the UK people rarely wave at all, we are riding on the other side of the road so your left hand is on the outside. We nod, and I love every single nod I get however big or small!!
Same in Aus Emma,we nod ,or we used to more than today. Too many would be Uber wannabee idiots out there. Personally i will always nod to anyone who does.
Two fingers, one finger, four fingers…I’ve never paid attention to what’s being thrown out there, especially if it’s gloved. I just return the salute or nod if I’m able.
I've been riding since the mid 70's on Super bikes, a Kawasaki man, mostly 900's and 1000's. I got quit a bit of experience on dirt in the woods, hills & desert. I've ridden Japanese, British, German, Italian & American Iron. I believe part of the reason we Ride is to be an individual! How is waving to another Rider so embarrassing? Never mind, it's obvious you have a lot of growing up ahead of you. Shiny side up little bro!
I stopped looking at this video after the first 'Mistake!!' I don't need someone to tell me how I should be waving at fellow bikers and if I do the wrong wave then this indicates that I must be a 'beginner'. Surely, this only happens in America, where people all feel that they have to belong to something, a club, or whatever, and obey certain rules, otherwise they fear that they will be ostracised. I like to think that here in England we are more individualistic. I ride alone, go where I want, do what I want and I'll wave whatever way I feel like waving. With both hands, if I feel like it?
yes, I couldn't watch/listen to be told "how" to wave or acknowledge another rider - there are "no rules" we do it as we see fit using our own thoughts and judgement - its not a club or the army where you must salute, come on guys don't make stupid rules unnecessarily, no one needs them!
I appreciate how genuinely entertaining Yammie Noob content is no matter the skill level subject involved there is always entertainment. Well played Mr. Noob.
As a sadist i simply cannot wait to make everyone feel super awkward by normie waving thank you for letting me know i can cause suffering in others merely by waving my hand like a giddy cheerleader
i feel like a dummy because i got exhaust wrap just to cover the part of the pipe you see because it looks like trash (20 years old) so it doesn't actually do anything but looks so much better
in my 23 years of Riding i have never heard so much concentrated horse shit in 12:14 The only thing that matters ist to ride with gear and do not mistake the road with a racetrack
10:23 Thats exactly the reason why i like the european way to obtain a license a lot more. I took around 14 to 16 lessons (not quite sure, was five years ago) and my first few lessons were just basic riding maneuvers before i was allowed to go on the road. I had to learn how to evade with and without breaking, an emergency stop, driving a slalom in two ways, at normal cruising speed of 30 Kph and at 5 Kph to learn how to slowly maneuver the bike. After that i went on the road and learned the proper way to go around a corner, how to behave myself as a motorcyclist and what to look out for. All those hours i spend practicing to just get my license made me feel really comfortable on the road and i was able to explore the feeling of riding a bike and somewhat test my limits as a rider (i mean learning the proper technique without recklessly endangering myself) under the guidance of a good teacher.
Same here. Took about 3-4 months and abt 3k Euros but was definitely worth it. I failed first off road test because I put a foot on the ground during slow maneuver. Also you had to do the test with a passenger (your instructor) once you pass it without passenger. Good times
In South Africa if you're over 18 you go write a theoretical test and then you can buy any bike your heart desires on a learners permit. if your under under 18 you can only ride a 125cc
You're right lol. I totally hit a couple of these personally. I'm choosing to treat myself as a brand new rider because I haven't been on 2 wheels in nearly 10 years. I just got myself a KLR and it's proving to be an adjustment. It's the biggest bike I've ever owned, it's very versatile to allow me to try some different things and so far it is able to do more than I am capable/willing to do as a rider. Some things I forgot, some things I'm truly learning new from scratch. I really only drove off road when I was young, so I'm good with clutching. Throttle control? Lol, I'm having relearn all that, it's almost like I've never ridden before. I'm so choppy it's not even funny. Street riding, that's just straight up new to me, the rules on pavement are very different.
Re: the wave. I've been riding for 35 years. Didn't realize I was waving wrong. Then again, having had a dislocated left shoulder, sticking my hand/arm out into the slipstream down low is not a comfortable experience. Riders are just getting a quick lift from the handlebars from me.
The people that wear flip flops on a motorcycle must be living in 2077 and have titanium feet. Just using my shifter to move my bike around the garage while wearing vans hurts my feet.
Consider that the contact patches of both your front AND rear tyres are about the same total area as the entire sole of ONE shoe. Decent tyres from a reputable manufacturer (Michelin, Pirelli, Metzeler etc) really are worth every cent, especially if you ride in less than perfect conditions.
In the UK we put up 1 finger while the rest is on the left clutch handle bar. Because we drive on the left so we cant take our right hand off the throttle to wave.
You know what are things to avoid? People on RUclips that have the correct f#$%^ng way to do EVERYTHING! Good on the guy for waving ever the heck how he wants to! And he probably doesn't care what anybody thinks either! And I like that!
10:49 I made ever one of these mistakes and I felt conmutting to my workplace hahaha I got my knee awful hit...but now I'm trying to improve my shifting and speed management with every travel :)
Just bought an H2 as my first bike. I've never rode before but the salesman said it be perfect to learn on. I pick it up tmrw. I have to drive it home but how hard can it be. Cant wait.
@@BizGuzlur No. Upon pulling out from the dealership I whiskey throttled and plowed into a gas pump across the street at 160mph and died in a fiery explosion
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The exception to wave being optional is any little kid on the sidewalk who stares at the bike and waves. You absolutely must wave back.
Two handed wave for this situation.
And if they ask you have to rev! Its the law
I was at a red light, kid came cruising down on his ebike and waved at me! needless to say, it made my day.
Must wave absolutely. Also optional but recommended to honk your horn and give a rev or two
I usually flip them off. Better they learn sooner rather than later that it’s a struggle out here.
I’m waving this way from now on just because you told me not to.
Definitely
I think it's cause your gay, not cause he said not to. Lol
@@effyoo6081 I actually prefer the Al Borland salute over the wave.
Imagine WAVING wrong! What a newb! *sarcasm*
As a motorcyclist, I really hate North American motorcycling culture sometimes. Such pretentious shit.
Nobody acts like this on a motorcycle in other parts of the world. You're not special because you're riding a two-wheeled vehicle, my dudes.
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I once waved like a normal pedestrian, hand way up high, to an old Harley Davidson guy. And he smiled and did the same thing. We both knew it wasn't the normal way. But that smile between 2 fellow squids was well worth it.
Harley man probs would wave
I do the Queen wave from time to time
When I pass bikers I'ma do the little suggestive finger wiggle wave hehe
I wave like a little kid. I stand by it. I giggle every time
Same even mid corner
@@TheLiamis I always do in the turn, I have to asset my dominance to the Harley boys
@@NavyMitchell I always do the full range/elbow/wrist wave, followed up with a limp wrist at the end. Mid corner, intersection, on ramp, off ramp, car, motorcycle, trike... Just never a slingshot.
On a Harley.
Me too. I'm a 50 year old man on a 250cc supermoto (with tacky decals), and I do full-on Forrest Gump waves. It's so much fun being old enough and wise enough to give zero fucks about that stuff, and watching others stress themselves out trying to be cool.
@@TheLiamis Yeah, well I used my throttle hand the first time I waved. I was soooo excited.
as an uncertified sociopath, I never do group rides
I got into riding for the sake of riding, not to deal with people
Me too. Its the only time I can get any peace and quiet, and that includes my own mind. My attitude towards everything changes for those miles and I even find myself singing in my helmet. Its nice.
@@rm25088 That feeling is exactly what I'm looking for. I just got my first bike and I haven't done my first ride already but i'm looking forward to it so bad.
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Literally same xD
Old comment but the more I ride with more people the more I realise riding alone is more peaceful
I love when other riders give me a normal wave lol i threw the biker wave at another dude on a bike and he snaps his head to me and starts normal waving at me and seemed so happy. It made my day.
The only exception to the wave rule for me is at intersections when the hands are a bit busy. Then it’s anything goes. Lol
I think the reason for it is to not confuse it with hand signals. Like holding your hand up means turning left and holding it straight to the left means left. So they do to the left and down to avoid confusion. (You may have to use these if your lights stop working but you need to keep driving anyway)
Lol or avoid the boomer legends entirely and just wave however is most practical for your current situation. Can't say I've ever cared how anyone waved at me, waves are waves!
Also: us winter riders (suck it, seasonal casual riders!) often salute each other with a raised fist. Either as a recognition of our triumph over the weather, or because our elbows are frozen and we can't open our fingers.
Unless im one handing the bars going straight, ill just lift two fingers over the clutch lever as a wave. No need to get fancy really
@@ThrottleJerk as a newbie this is what I do. I just don't have the confidence to take my hands off the bars yet.
@@16Haverson practice putting less and less weight on the handlebars, this will give you a comfier ride and improve your confidence, you should be able to ride with your fingertips only without any issue. By the end you can ride with no hands at all. As long as you’re going over 25mph (lower when you’re practiced) the natural position and forces of the bike means you won’t tip over :) stay safe
Tell me about it, a few days back my effing gloves froze to the grips! Below Zero and rain...
@@cyberfux strong recommendation for cold and wet riding: OBR Adv 3/4 grip mitts. They don't block sight and access to handlebar controls but keep wind and water off your hands. 30 seconds to install/remove, so you can just shove em in a bag and install when needed (velcro straps+snaps, no tools)
I'll wave how I want to wave. If someone doesn't like the way I wave, that's none of my business.
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There is a coolness factor though. Less excited, more chill acknowledgement. If a car creates a gap down the centre of the lane for you, you sling out your hand and grab back at the bar, you don't wave your hand around like a six year old saying goodbye to grandpa' as he backs out of the driveway.
I do the “Jazz hands” wave.
Below handlebar wave does not work in countries where you drive on the left.
Aren't you fun haha
I love to wave like a kid, and i have gotten lots of waves like this back. Life is serious enough and just that gives some people like me a little joy
1. 00:28 Waving above handlebars
2. 02:28 Poorly maintained motorcycle
3. 03:54 Knowing what is and what is not a tasteful modification
4, 06:30 Wear the proper gear
5. 07:51 Ride with bad influences
6. 09:10 Commit as a one type of rider
7. 10:23 Being a bad rider
Thank you!
When I started riding in 1969, no one did the two fingers down wave. Riders just held a hand up or nodded. This changed in the 90's to the arm down. That's how I tell who's a new(ish) rider.
I HAVE to ask where you're from, because i learned that you greet with two fingers down in *does complicated math* 1987 (?) or so from my dad who did it all the way back to his army days in the early 60s where he was a motorbike scout (or whatever a Kradmelder is called in english)...
Oh yeah, Germany here...
@@cyberfux Complicated math? Don't know what your talking about. I'm in Tennessee. Motorcycles were rarely everyday transportation, mostly recreational and mostly young men, or boys. As the 80's and 90's rolled around more and more people were riding but an established 'wave' was not known, around here anyway.
@@markfloyd7206 I had to do the math of "When was i 12, wasn't that 10 years ago?" - the German tried to be funny, and failed as usual!
All I've seen in Australia is a normal hand up gesture or nod.
Started in 1989 Stlouis Missouri, rode sport bikes for 20 years and Harley guys would never wave. Been on Harleys for the past 12 AND NOW WAVES ARE HIT AND MISS. Too many people riding......the hell with wave and too hell with harley, going back to a sport bike. SPEED
Depends on where you live. In Australia people don’t wave at all( Harley riders may be an exception) everybody gives the nod. Except for Harley riders who rarely acknowledge any other rider than a fellow Harley rider. Now I live in Japan and waving is normal and it doesn’t matter what you ride. I can be on my plastic crotch rocket and the dude coming the other way is on a Harley road glide but he’ll still wave at me like a 6 year old out the back window of a school bus. Took a bit to get used to but it’s awesome. Nobody cares what you ride, as long as you’re riding 🖐️
Nod yep though certainly vanishing….Have to be past Port Augusta now to get a nod I reckon!
I guess depends where you live In Japan because I still do the head nod but I live in saga
I ride a Honda PCX150 in Melbourne Australia and have never seen anyone do the wave but everyone does the nod except the occasional rider who thinks they are too good to acknowlege a scooter rider.
I think the harley riders are often from criminal gang biker communities. Im never sure if I should wave or nod at them.
In Tasmania we do. We have 3 arms. It's easier.
Tip, if you're getting on a bike you haven't used before, especially if it's a different style, find a parking lot or something and do some eights and emergency stops.
Oh, and also do this after a winter stop on your own bike.
I am a boomer(63) and a newbie. Have not rode in over 4o years.(dirt bikes) Decided to get my license. Took the 2 day class in Englishtown, NJ. They also gave the road test. Bought a cheapy Chinese bike online. X-pect 200.I call it my dangerous toy. Great ride, sturdy.
A biker gave me the wave and instinctually I waved back while in a turn and opening throttle. Fortunately I caught myself! I’ve learned to just nod now to reciprocate a lot of waves.
Definitely done that 😂
You should practice more. I was on " the snake" in Tennessee, and this guy was flying into the turn and had enough talent to give a nice " above the handle bar" wave. I was shocked. So now when I ride, I practice!
@Lover Of you I went to Moto America at the Ridge and a super stock rider was waving with his topside foot, mid lean through the final hairpin during the cooldown lap.
How I ride in general.
rule of thumb for waves : Nod in a turn or any angled position of the front wheel or when speed is very low. Wave when it is as safe as if you could go one hand on the handlebar
After riding sport nakeds for the last 12 years, I've decided to switch back to a cruiser. Mostly due to age and injuries plus I miss being able to ride for a good portion of the day rather than just to the coffee shop and back. lol
Ride the ride you want to my dude, I think anybody would agree with that
The pidgeonholing thing is good advice. I'm about to take my first lesson and I've already been pidgeonholing myself into retro bikes and retro-looking bikes. Pretty much decided I'm a Royal Enfield guy that hates sports bikes even though I haven't even started riding yet. You've convinced me to keep an open mind and try some different stuff first.
Tbf...retro bikes are fuckin sick and are the best way to get a blend of performance and comfort imo along with the very classy styling
I got a 2012 Kawasaki ninja 250r for my first bike the other day because I test rode a few bikes in my price range and it was the most comfortable for me... I knew I didn't know shit about bikes but I knew I wasn't going to be stuck with this one forever, it's just to learn on and get to work for me so I just decided to ask a friend to teach me the basics on his bike, took a few different bikes for a little test ride and decided what I felt happy on... The way this ones seat position felt and how when I tucked my knees to the tank just felt right for my height etc... I felt like I couldn't lock myself in as well on the other bikes I tested.
Right?!?! I always liked H.D. and Indian, still like old Indian but now that I own a couple bikes, H.D. doesn't impress me! Still need to ride a sport bike yet. Always gonna love old iron no matter who built it
I tend to wave super obnoxiously just for fun, in a ironic way, makes some people smile :)
I don’t usually wave but when I do I also yell out hello and wave like Forrest Gump 👋🏻
Dude was projecting hard with the wave back story. I've never seen a channel that seems so exclusive and gatekeeping.
I mean you do wave low
@@Deezy09 That's true. I just like riding Idgaf how people wave. Just have fun
Ya he is cringe and obsessed with Harley’s and gatekeeping. How many times in the piece did he reference boomer or HD? Rent free for sure.
Jokes folks
1:04 Low angle left hand biker-wave doesn’t work in England, Australia, Japan and other left traffic countries. We can’t wave our right hands because we need to hold the throttles. We have to raise our left hands high, so the opposite direction biker can see our hands.
I started off wanting a cruiser bike and then the salesmen at the dealer mentioned a sport bike and after test driving both I actually went with the sport bike even though I never considered it in the first place.
One of each is good too 😅
@@grimeyhonkyracing3938I feel the same way.... I've got a 2005 zx636 and a 2007 1600 CC Vulcan
I do two fingers down normally, but I find the traditional wave to be the best if you see someone on an intersection to your left or right, and aren’t actually passing them. Not waving is not an option.
4:59 me who just put a little rubber duck on the handle bar 😞
Same, I put one on my turn signal though 😂🤣
Try waving "the only correct way" in Australia, UK, Ireland and see how it goes ;)
How is it different?
@@GreenmanWood left up will wave to bushes as your oncoming traffic is on your right 😉
I gave the rider wave on a bicycle once. The guy had a good laugh. Mission accomplished.
In South Africa we nod at each other. The side headed nod is our way of saying what's up and drive safe
In my country it is absolutely normal to wave by just lifting your hand. More than that, it is really uncommon to wave like they said in the video. I think it is purely US thing.
It absolutely is a US thing. Most don't consider that your on the opposite side of the road and you would have to use the throttle hand to do it like this which is not safe but just wanted to show not all Americans are uncultured lol 😂
idk here in germany I see it a lot too
yeah. gatekeeping waving on motorcycles is crazy LOL. this video is just pretentious shit that makes beginners feel knowledgeable on something they know nothing about. its like kids hating on civics.
You are entertaining. I have been riding for 22 years or so. I still don't know bikes except for the ones I ride. I am also 100 percent motorcyclist. Don't own a car. Just ride what I ride. Buy new and work it till it dies.
I’ve wanted a bike for 35 years. On my ride home from picking it up I got “the wave” from another rider and I nearly laid the bike down out of excitement and confusion on how to reciprocate. In the end, a subtle nod was all I was able to muster. Hopefully he saw my temp tag. Dang squid🤦♂️
With your left hand is essential as you need your right hand on the throttle! But a wave below the handlebars is INVISIBLE ...if you are driving on the left as in the UK!
I got my first bike in 1967 and have been riding since (no HDs). I think this motorcycle wave is a relatively new thing. I don't really remember seeing it until the early 1990s. Then, at first, it was only between HD riders. Eventually it spread to all riders. I don't like to take my hands off of the handlebars so the most that I might do is lift a single finger from my left hand.
That is what I remember too, having first seen the two finger, pointing downward wave from riders with really high ape-hanger style handlebars. (Earlier than the 90's though.) If your hand was up on high bars you couldn't raise it to wave, you would bring it down. On "normal" bars you just lifted your arm and waved.
Just got my license and I find these so much cooler to watch then literally last week when I didn't, religiously re watching all your beginner videos , much luv ! Thank you for your dedication
I remember one time when I was riding my 1996 Honda rvf400 I past a Harley and did the two fingers pointing down ( meaning keeping two wheels on the ground) essentially ride safe. I fairly certain it’s a common Harley thing atleast here in Australia. But he full on waved me back. I think he likes it hahaha
Yeah, I break rule 1 all the time. Just depends on how excited I am 😉
I wear Icon compression shirt and pants under my regular clothes. The high impact areas have Kevlar-covered D3O for abrasion and impact protection. Breathable and comfortable too.
I give a normal wave if there's lots of traffic around. Some people get pissy if they don't see you throw the 2 fingers out cuz a car is blocking them.
I wasn't waving, I was trying to catch butterflies
When I was a little kid my grandpa would take me for motorcycle rides on his Honda Gold Wing. He would always do that hand gesture with two fingers way low below the bars to other riders and they always did it back. I thought it was the coolest thing I’d ever seen. I actually loved it so much it became one of the reasons I wanted a motor cycle lol.
The biker wave is a "V" for victory. A lot of US soldiers learned to ride in WWII. When they returned home after the war, they found that the Harleys they learned to ride on were being sold at bargain prices, so they bought one. When they passed other riders of the road, they raised the V for victory, and they probably did raise it above the handlebar. The meaning has been lost over time and has moved out to the side.
Can thank Winston Churchill for popularizing the V for Victory
I started on two-stroke race replicas. I was a hard-core Moto GP fan. For myself, one of the best decisions I made was getting a dual sport and riding off-road. That improved my riding and gave me a great way to enjoy different paces. Every style of riding has a great side to it. Now, I like cruising on single piston retro bikes. Love that pop and thump. Ride safe!
I live in Australia. No one does the "two fingers down" wave. We drive on the left, so the other bike wouldn't see it.
When you see another bike, you just give a nod.
I have to disagree with the waving one.
One of my favourite memories riding was pulling up to a large intersection and having a random rider on the other side give a massive overhead wave. I still think about it years later. It was nice. Nice is good. Riding needs good.
Not all countries have the same take on the motorcycle wave. Agree you don't wave as if your waving goodbye to your grandma but here in Australia you give a single hand gustier raised up from the handle bar and then back down or a head nod. Then you hope you may get something back but know you wont if its a Harley rider because they dont wave to anybody.
Everyone talks like Harley riders think they're too cool (or bad ash) to wave. I think they are just afraid to let go of those ape hanger bars and lose control of an awkward, heavy bike with the headset rattling loose and feet in stirrups like they are about to get an exam from their obgyn. At least that was my experience on a Hog. I've never been cooler than I was that day.
I appreciate this video, dude! I grew up on 2 wheels, but I truly understand the difference when riding on roads with other drivers. Thanks, dude!
Hi, in Australia we do not wave or use fingers, too dangerous. We use a head nod instead, remember that when you visit our country and ride a bike. And yes, a rev is always a fun thing for kids or adults riding a bicycle lol.
What the hell happened to the couple at 6:22? Was there a squirrel? Did they just grab all the brake for no good reason? Or was is some unseen mechanical issue?
Don’t give the ‘biker wave’ in the UK. We ride on the left so someone passing will be in our right. You’ll slow down. 😂😂
Yep, same in Australia.
And the same in Ireland
“Behind the gentleman’s club where your mom works the day shift” LOL. You’re a f’ing poet Yammie. Brilliant.
Kind of paints a picture of how low life some motor bike riders are, as well as their parents.
If I’m cornering, clutching, or both, when I see another rider, I’ll wave or simply nod at the other rider any darned way I want to. This is the USA 🇺🇸; you aren’t the Wave Boss. The rest is like ‘Yeah, whatever’.
NYET on your waving policy. If you are at a light, holding clutch in, you use your right hand to recognize a fellow squid. You may have to be creative. It's perfectly fine.
When I first started riding again, my "waves" were wobbly and uncoordinated. Every experienced rider was there once. It doesn't matter. They think, "Oh, there's a newbe. Just like I do now when I see a rider though a bit wobbly wave. it's cool. He's practicing, it's the least important thing a rider has to learn. They will. Much easier than tight U-turns. It's our "knees in the breeze" that connects us, not how we wave.
I am riding my 34th bike, and i wave above the handlebar. During the last two decades i have noticed this bit weird style getting famous, where you wave downward. In the eighties everybody waved above the handlebar, at least around here. My bike has some stickers too:)
Very true what you mentioned about new riders and mistakes. I want out of my comfort zone ad a newbie and dumped my bike in a ditch. Happily just some minor damage to the bike and I was relatively okay. Bottom line, I went outside the comfort zone on a new bike I was learning the quirks on. Stay safe out there.
In the UK we do a head tilt rather than a wave because waving would mean taking you hand off the throttle (due to us riding on the correct side of the road)
This is the norm in Japan as well
And Australia. A nod and/or a lift a couple of fingers for a greet. A low patting signal for slow down due to copper or other hazard ahead.
Can't tell you how real that advice is- to keep to your own pace and don't be pressured to keep up with experienced groups. I went through this in the beginning.
I'm sitting at the first traffic light of a ~100km ride and immediately get left behind. I'm in my first month of riding and sure, my 400 could actually keep up, but can I?
I thought to myself, either I go at my own pace, ignoring them completely, and probably end up looking like a p*ssy. OR, I say fuck it, give it my all and ride fast in a constant state of panic and thrill, to show that I "belong".
Well against the advice that I had been given and my gut instincts, I tried to keep up with them. Immediately, my good mate who had invited me to the ride, pulled up in front of me, looked at me and waved adamantly "NO, SLOW DOWN". And so that took all the pressure off me.
Him and myself rode behind for the entire journey, and to my surprise - every stop we got off at, the rest of the crew came to check on me, congratulate me and cheer me on for my progress through my first long ride.
None of them thought I was a p*ssy or anything of the sort. That's something important that you should realise about the biking community as a beginner, the only ones who will put you down for riding like a "p*ssy" are the ones you need to stay very very far away from, before you find yourself sliding down a tarmac to an uncertain fate.
Ride to your own ability, enhance that ability at your own pace, and remember that no moment of thrill on a bike is worth a disproportionate risk of peril.
A motorcycle is very intimidating. No matter who you are or what bike you get onto, nobody in this community with more than 5 brain cells will think you're a p*ssy, no matter how slow you ride.
good video.
am i the only one who thinks stalling your bike ( like once every 3 months) isnt a beginner mistake? it can always happen, escpecially when your trying to not kill your clutch.
happens to car drivers aswell all the time.
i dont think thats just a beginner mistake. i bet every motogp rider does it from time to time on their street bikes.
Every couple months or so usually when im backing out i forget im still in reverse and take my foot off the clutch and stall. Makes me feel like a rookie every time haha
I think the first accessories anyone should buy are frame sliders, swing arm spools, whatever bike protection you can find.
It makes bike look ugly
Especially like royal Enfield 650
@@flesz_ on some but not all. If it protects even just a little, I don't care.
I always give the spastic goofy wave , I get a laugh out of it and I hope that the wavee enjoys it too.
we should prioritize having our own fun for such small things instead of centering around what's the "coolest" or "most biker-ish"
if you do a goofy wave and get a laugh out of it you're doing the right thing
I always obnoxiously and frantically wave at all Harley/cruiser rides just to solidify they never do the bike wave to anyone but themselves
4:43 Woah! Didn't expect a Radiohead reference on a video about driving motorcycle.
Just be careful with the two finger wave, below the bars and palm forward is ok but wrong height and palm backwards can get you into a lot of trouble in some countries.
I have been waiting for this since yesterday
Also be careful what tail tidys yu install and what bikes you install them on. Theres a reason bikes have rear fenders. If you take off you'll soak your back when you hit a puddle. Which is decidedly less cool than the chunky fender imo.
In the UK people rarely wave at all, we are riding on the other side of the road so your left hand is on the outside. We nod, and I love every single nod I get however big or small!!
Same in Aus Emma,we nod ,or we used to more than today.
Too many would be Uber wannabee idiots out there.
Personally i will always nod to anyone who does.
The runescape reference had me dying laughing😂😂 absolutely love it
too accurate lol
We stay catching stray bullets
Two fingers, one finger, four fingers…I’ve never paid attention to what’s being thrown out there, especially if it’s gloved. I just return the salute or nod if I’m able.
I've been riding since the mid 70's on Super bikes, a Kawasaki man, mostly 900's and 1000's. I got quit a bit of experience on dirt in the woods, hills & desert. I've ridden Japanese, British, German, Italian & American Iron. I believe part of the reason we Ride is to be an individual! How is waving to another Rider so embarrassing? Never mind, it's obvious you have a lot of growing up ahead of you. Shiny side up little bro!
Lovin the Chopin Nocturne in the background. Weird choice, but it works.
I stopped looking at this video after the first 'Mistake!!' I don't need someone to tell me how I should be waving at fellow bikers and if I do the wrong wave then this indicates that I must be a 'beginner'. Surely, this only happens in America, where people all feel that they have to belong to something, a club, or whatever, and obey certain rules, otherwise they fear that they will be ostracised. I like to think that here in England we are more individualistic. I ride alone, go where I want, do what I want and I'll wave whatever way I feel like waving. With both hands, if I feel like it?
yes, I couldn't watch/listen to be told "how" to wave or acknowledge another rider - there are "no rules" we do it as we see fit using our own thoughts and judgement - its not a club or the army where you must salute, come on guys don't make stupid rules unnecessarily, no one needs them!
I wish I never started that wave back in the 70s. Now look what it’s turned into.
I’m currently working on the hyper-casual two fingered throw.
Would you ever consider talking about bike theft? A friend of mine had 20 grand in 3 bikes and tools stolen on New Years weekend.
I think you need to have good insurance in place and make sure your garage is secure enough so they will pay you if that happens.
Hang on a minute in the UK we don't wave at all - we give 'the nod'
I appreciate how genuinely entertaining Yammie Noob content is no matter the skill level subject involved there is always entertainment. Well played Mr. Noob.
These videos are so clever and funny, keep it up!
You eat this up huh?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Practicing knee drags at my moms day job!!
Your hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was actually thinking of wearing my hockey helmet for the MSF course… thank you…
As a sadist i simply cannot wait to make everyone feel super awkward by normie waving thank you for letting me know i can cause suffering in others merely by waving my hand like a giddy cheerleader
i feel like a dummy because i got exhaust wrap just to cover the part of the pipe you see because it looks like trash (20 years old) so it doesn't actually do anything but looks so much better
Guess we’re all noobs here in Australia then cause we can’t wave below the handle bars!
in my 23 years of Riding i have never heard so much concentrated horse shit in 12:14
The only thing that matters ist to ride with gear and do not mistake the road with a racetrack
The two fingers down mean, "Keep your eyes on the road and stop looking at me... you moron".
I was birthed as a street squid by papa Yam way back in 2017 watching these same type videos. Motorcycles are cool.
10:23 Thats exactly the reason why i like the european way to obtain a license a lot more.
I took around 14 to 16 lessons (not quite sure, was five years ago) and my first few lessons were just basic riding maneuvers before i was allowed to go on the road.
I had to learn how to evade with and without breaking, an emergency stop, driving a slalom in two ways, at normal cruising speed of 30 Kph and at 5 Kph to learn how to slowly maneuver the bike.
After that i went on the road and learned the proper way to go around a corner, how to behave myself as a motorcyclist and what to look out for.
All those hours i spend practicing to just get my license made me feel really comfortable on the road and i was able to explore the feeling of riding a bike and somewhat test my limits as a rider
(i mean learning the proper technique without recklessly endangering myself) under the guidance of a good teacher.
Same here. Took about 3-4 months and abt 3k Euros but was definitely worth it. I failed first off road test because I put a foot on the ground during slow maneuver. Also you had to do the test with a passenger (your instructor) once you pass it without passenger. Good times
In South Africa if you're over 18 you go write a theoretical test and then you can buy any bike your heart desires on a learners permit. if your under under 18 you can only ride a 125cc
costs around €10 for the entire process lol
Braking*
That RuneScape comment hit deep I gotta say
You're right lol.
I totally hit a couple of these personally.
I'm choosing to treat myself as a brand new rider because I haven't been on 2 wheels in nearly 10 years.
I just got myself a KLR and it's proving to be an adjustment.
It's the biggest bike I've ever owned, it's very versatile to allow me to try some different things and so far it is able to do more than I am capable/willing to do as a rider.
Some things I forgot, some things I'm truly learning new from scratch.
I really only drove off road when I was young, so I'm good with clutching.
Throttle control? Lol, I'm having relearn all that, it's almost like I've never ridden before. I'm so choppy it's not even funny.
Street riding, that's just straight up new to me, the rules on pavement are very different.
Dude I do all types of waves, my favorite it to salute.
Re: the wave. I've been riding for 35 years. Didn't realize I was waving wrong. Then again, having had a dislocated left shoulder, sticking my hand/arm out into the slipstream down low is not a comfortable experience. Riders are just getting a quick lift from the handlebars from me.
The people that wear flip flops on a motorcycle must be living in 2077 and have titanium feet. Just using my shifter to move my bike around the garage while wearing vans hurts my feet.
Consider that the contact patches of both your front AND rear tyres are about the same total area as the entire sole of ONE shoe. Decent tyres from a reputable manufacturer (Michelin, Pirelli, Metzeler etc) really are worth every cent, especially if you ride in less than perfect conditions.
I always give people the pedestrian wave. Fun to be contrarian.
In the uk most people just give a little head nod to other riders
Had some guy on a sportbike give me a very excited pedestrian wave while i was out on my vintage suzuki, it definitely made me uncomfortable.
So sensitive.
In the UK we put up 1 finger while the rest is on the left clutch handle bar. Because we drive on the left so we cant take our right hand off the throttle to wave.
You know what are things to avoid? People on RUclips that have the correct f#$%^ng way to do EVERYTHING! Good on the guy for waving ever the heck how he wants to! And he probably doesn't care what anybody thinks either! And I like that!
10:49 I made ever one of these mistakes and I felt conmutting to my workplace hahaha I got my knee awful hit...but now I'm trying to improve my shifting and speed management with every travel :)
Avoid group rides over 3 riders. More than 3 is a recipe for disaster.
Just bought an H2 as my first bike. I've never rode before but the salesman said it be perfect to learn on. I pick it up tmrw. I have to drive it home but how hard can it be. Cant wait.
Did you survive?
@@BizGuzlur No. Upon pulling out from the dealership I whiskey throttled and plowed into a gas pump across the street at 160mph and died in a fiery explosion
We're just going to ignore that Yammie showed a Maxi Scooter calling it an ADV at 10:03
Bro that made me pause the video and spit my drink 🤣
NOt a maxi scooter. It's a Honda ADV 750.
@@aeroplod that's an adv 150. You can tell by the showa rear suspension.
In the UK, its all about the side nod.