You're not wrong. There's a lot of clickbait and science woo out there designed to fool people into thinking there's a new "wonder invention" coming. Always some "so good it was banned" bullshit :D
At first i thought it was a capacitor, but then you add the salty water. I heard about salt batteries but never know how they work, pretty interesting, I have to try!
@@Benoit-Pierre no the title is not a lie. You can use capacitors as batteries for your small projects, but it seems to me to be more like an electrolyt capacitors instead a regular battery. Do you get what i mean?
Actually, you’re not “charging” the battery, just a step to remove the oxide layer. Aluminum battery. Once aluminum is depleted, it is “recharged” by replacing the aluminum. The electrolyte must be a strongly alkaline solution. Usually lye (sodium hydroxide).
That definitely works, but if you want to invent a battery that has more than a few weeks of life, then you can forget about these types which rapidly dissolve their components in a race to achieve a base solution.
@@peterelmo2181 Too bad the reason why Lithium is used is because it's still pretty much the best you can do for capacity. Volatility and lifespan is fucking awful though. And there's never a "miracle battery" that'll outperform it by the thousands of % that people keep peddling. They've been doing that for years and years. Sadly. Batteries just kinda suck.
@@Unethical.FandubsGames over the last few decades, we've gone from lead-acid or maybe NiCad to lithium ion and lithium polymer and more. We've had at least a thousand percent improvement during that time in various metrics. Batteries don't necessarily advance as fast as things like microchips have, but they advance over time. If someone is claiming 1000% improvement in say the next year, I'd agree that one should be skeptical. Even if someone finds such a huge improvement in the lab, it will likely take time to hit production and not immediately live up to the lab promises in commercial use, at least for a while. That's just how progress seems to happen. But progress does happen.
Great vid, must be exhausting to answer the same questions over and over again...I can add one too: Do you have to wrap the copper wire clockwise or ccw? 🤦🏻♂️ Happy New Year to you and all!
Neither. You wrap according to the compass start on the north side then go to the south side via the east or west sides however DO NOT go threw the DARK SIDE, and as a side note if using the XYZ dont confuse the ABC and stay off the center axis. Hope that helps.
Using water means the cell shouldn't be recharged, the water will be split into H2 and O2 via electrolysis. Also, try putting the graphite on the outside of the cell to increase surface area for O2 contact.
In my world, I deal with lead acid batteries weighing over 3000 pounds providing 36 volts at high amps to power industrial equipment. Adding deionized water is a requirement due to the lost hydrogen gas in the reversible replacement reaction of Pb + H2SO4 = PbSO3 + H2O + electricity. Almost all rechargeable batteries contained lead, sulfuric acid, and water until the advent of Nickel Cadmium.
Capacitors and batteries are operationally different. Your only saving Grace is the dissimilar metals will indeed create a voltage potential due to the galvanic reaction. But it’s no we’re near the amount of energy being stored in the electric field that was created by using a battery to charge it as a capacitor
I made something similar about a year ago but without the graphite rod. Nominal voltage was about 0.55v without charging. My main issue with it was that the saline solution dried out after only a few days. DIY is great, but without proper tools, really only ends up making more e-waste
The motor you are running with that fan as a load atleast needs 3.7v with some amount of current...... If the motor is drawing even 20mA Then you need a 74mW power Now you showed the battery is giving out 2.7v in no load condition That means for 74mW of power your battery needs to supply 27mA I think the earth is giving you its energy to run that motor...... An red led requires 1.8 V with current as low as 1mA.......so i hope you can run an Led first with that cell
@@joyofelectronics9782 are you sure you cant light led with 1mA...... And the motor you are using seems to be a 6mm by 7mm motor Which needs minimum current but with that load it will draw a good amount of current
@@someorother5272 yes l am pretty sure that you cannot light a red LED with 1mA. They are working with 15mA at least. Check it out on internet 👍. By the way thanks and appreciate your attention on the video🙏
I can't believe this, how can such small battery handle a motor as a load 😳 , it would have be believable if you tested it on an LED or showed the apparatus placed on a clean table. I will test it myself
It’s real. But here is the point. As the battery is very small the current is very low. It can run such a coreless dc motor but can’t run a LED or high current required devices. If you built a larger one it can handle a LED and other little devices. Afterall this is a way of showing the working principle of the battery. I have no fake videos on my channel bro👍
@@joyofelectronics9782 people doubt everything these days as there is so much BS about and end up not even believing basic scientific principles. Good work pal 👍
@@ianthompson6288 so true mate! In this video it would have been so easy to have a real battery hidden in his hand with wires running down and that's what most videos these days do which makes these genuine videos hard to honestly believe.
an element on a galvanic couple graphite + aluminum in a salt electrolyte 1.5V to receive is a dream! More likely 0.6 V regardless of the size of the electrodes... )))
Hey finally not a fake video, like you find everywhere else claiming "free energy" when you know damn well there's a battery hidden underneath the table.
This is intriguing. I wonder as to the cycle capacity of this. If we took a roll of paper towels, alumining foil, and thin graphite felt, we could make a cell Jelly Roll Style for some incredible capacities. In all of the following areas: 1) Amp hour capacity, 2) Amperage delivery, and 3) Bonfire size, when our homemade contraption develops an internal Short Circuit. Why is #3 not dissuading me from the idea? I might need to start drinking beer again, just so I can ask someone to...
Recycle capacity depend on the thickness of aluminum foil and copper wire attached to graphite. If they are thick enough. You can charge it around 200 times or so👍
Pretty sure that's just a capacitor bro, if you wanna battery you'll have to swap you're salt water with something that will chemically react with the aluminum like lye (ie sodium hydroxide). Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the salt water isn't breaking down the aluminum which means no transference of the energy inside the aluminum happens.
THERE IS LOTS OF THIS IN DISPOSABLE POD VAPE.. MALAYSIA IS THE MASSIVE USERS FOR THIS POD.. YOU CAN DISASSEMBLE IT AND CAN SEE A SMALL BATTERY EXACTLY LIKE THIS.
@@joyofelectronics9782 So Aluminum rods would work too? And can you use the center bit of an ordinary pencil (maybe of a higher hardness, I think it contains more graphite) for that? Does it work with small pieces too?
This why on yacht made of carbon we don't use aluminium piece but titanium or stainless steel. The salt induces a phenomenon of galvanization (ion, anode, cathode) this rots the resin matrix and the stratified layers delaminate. Maybe you can have a more powerful battery with a layer of graphite and aluminum powder, maybe with a solution of peroxygène (short life time I guess) or an alcaline solution (long life time).
При такой комбинации напряжение будет не больше1,2В. А ток мизерный. Даже такой маленький моторчик такая батарейка не потянет. Здесь используется батарейка от одноразовой сигареты.
@@Partizan862кхм.. думаю ,эта "батарейка" делалась просто для показа самой работы батареи,вряд ли мастер собирался делать нормальную и качественную вещь... кончено ток будет михерным ,тем более объем. Но как пример работы электролиза в применении химического источника тока в жизни очень даже хорош 👍 , такое бы на уроках в школе показывать.
To built larger one is a better solution to caherge your phone. But if you say l will use this size big one. Maybe totally you need 30 of them. But as l said build in larger size is a better way👍
Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers. As they say in the business, there's liars, there's worse liars, and then there's battery manufacturers.
This is NOT a rechargeable battery. It only work when there is water content in the salt mixture. 👌 It keeps working as long as the salt mixture has water AND the aluminum foil has not been “eaten” away.👌 good project for a physics class, though.
Thanks for once s real story about batteries... 99.9% of videos on energy are fake. Yours Is real. Thanks.
Thank you so much my friend. The main concept of my channel is not fooling people 👍
You're not wrong. There's a lot of clickbait and science woo out there designed to fool people into thinking there's a new "wonder invention" coming. Always some "so good it was banned" bullshit :D
Except that this is not truly rechargeable, unlike stated on clickbait title.
I thought videos were real but facts wrong
@@rosslefave5877 this one is real. You can try out.
This man clearly knows how to roll a joint ... Amen brother those were some nice tuck and roll abilities
No, you just know how to roll a battery
@@jt5678 yea sure.....
@@MamasFunkyMonkey great joints on the battery
Hahaaaaa yaaaa! This is true, where'd he learn to roll like that o.o
At first i thought it was a capacitor, but then you add the salty water. I heard about salt batteries but never know how they work, pretty interesting, I have to try!
You are right my friend. It is semi pseudocapacitor semi Al-air battery
Would it be considered only as a capacitor if there were no electrolyte?
Its called Electrolyte capacitor
@@adrianschuh2040 ok, so if it's a capacitor, it's not not a battery, and the title is a lie ?
@@Benoit-Pierre no the title is not a lie. You can use capacitors as batteries for your small projects, but it seems to me to be more like an electrolyt capacitors instead a regular battery. Do you get what i mean?
Actually, you’re not “charging” the battery, just a step to remove the oxide layer. Aluminum battery. Once aluminum is depleted, it is “recharged” by replacing the aluminum. The electrolyte must be a strongly alkaline solution. Usually lye (sodium hydroxide).
That definitely works, but if you want to invent a battery that has more than a few weeks of life, then you can forget about these types which rapidly dissolve their components in a race to achieve a base solution.
What do you think of vinegar as electrolyte, Geoffrey?
Same thing as a normal battery dude.
strong sodium hydroxide dolution will eat the aluminum within a few minutes, before you even get a chance to use the battery
@@IzziedeD silver or stainless steel or copper?
If this really works is a great project to teach children in school
It's real.
It works. This is real. I guess you never paid attention in school.
I guess you didnt neither, some schools dont educate on these subjects, and why are you here ?
I would recommend running the cathode out the bottom to make it easier and prevent short circuits
Then how are you going to keep the electrolyte inside the pipe?😉
Whoah is that why the terminals are on opposite side of a battery usually?
How much mah can you store ???? And do you have to add salt water every time after use??
Two disimilar metals or a metal and graphite.. Some salt.. Better some acid.. Viola a battery.. Cool idea
Now that is cool that is the kind of stuff i love to see.
Have you tried without the salty water, should work the same
Bro this is only a capacitor and it's not a battery. But, You can also create a battery by making a bigger one on this type.
How many minutes does the electric motor run, and what is the capacity of the battery ?
спасибо, пошёл на электроскутер батарею собирать...))))))
как закончишь дай знать)))))
You need a lot of these bateries
Wow
Thanks, with aluminum, graphite n salt water 💕
Salt battery is launching next year, big change coming
Do you think of sodium-ion batteries?
@@arturtrzebinski2112 that would be far better than lithium mining
@@peterelmo2181 Too bad the reason why Lithium is used is because it's still pretty much the best you can do for capacity.
Volatility and lifespan is fucking awful though.
And there's never a "miracle battery" that'll outperform it by the thousands of % that people keep peddling. They've been doing that for years and years.
Sadly. Batteries just kinda suck.
@@Unethical.FandubsGamesthat's why I think hydrogen is going to be the next source of storing electricity.
@@Unethical.FandubsGames over the last few decades, we've gone from lead-acid or maybe NiCad to lithium ion and lithium polymer and more. We've had at least a thousand percent improvement during that time in various metrics.
Batteries don't necessarily advance as fast as things like microchips have, but they advance over time.
If someone is claiming 1000% improvement in say the next year, I'd agree that one should be skeptical. Even if someone finds such a huge improvement in the lab, it will likely take time to hit production and not immediately live up to the lab promises in commercial use, at least for a while. That's just how progress seems to happen. But progress does happen.
Great vid, must be exhausting to answer the same questions over and over again...I can add one too:
Do you have to wrap the copper wire clockwise or ccw? 🤦🏻♂️
Happy New Year to you and all!
Thanks my friend. Happy new year to you as well. When it comes to your question. It doesn’t matter. It can be either clockwise or anticlockwise👍
Oh boy, I only tried to ask the dumbest question of all here...sorry if you took it seriously. 😉
Do you wrap the wire anti-clockwise if you are on the southern hemisphere?
🤣👍
Neither. You wrap according to the compass start on the north side then go to the south side via the east or west sides however DO NOT go threw the DARK SIDE, and as a side note if using the XYZ dont confuse the ABC and stay off the center axis. Hope that helps.
@@patrickmarino1654
Hi Patrick. RUclips Spelling police gives u a warning for "threw". The correct spelling is "thru".
Have a good day hooman. :)
Very simple and great
if I would use mechanical pencil graphite could I use more than one piece or does it have to be a single shaft?
You can use multiple 👍
Thank you!
I did it, and it was works! I was able to start a little electric motor for a short time, and put into operation a watch.
Cool
Stack em together to get 12 VDC, and you have a lightweight pack bigger than 2 D cells! Excellent!
Fantastic 👏👏👏
Thanks
You not very bright :))
@so are you?
@@LearnEnglishWithMe34 bright as mud but your clapping outshines me.
Using water means the cell shouldn't be recharged, the water will be split into H2 and O2 via electrolysis. Also, try putting the graphite on the outside of the cell to increase surface area for O2 contact.
Sorry dude it's H2 and O1. Only 1 oxygen atom in the water molecule
@@richardnelson317 O1 doesn't stick around for long by itself. 2H2O -> 2H2 + O2
@@lolzdatguy4987
Nope, this is why water evaporates naturally.
Instability in the basis of water is why it is not native to Earth.
@@lolzdatguy4987
H2+O2 = H+O
They'll both be highly unstable until they reach their natural state(s).
In my world, I deal with lead acid batteries weighing over 3000 pounds providing 36 volts at high amps to power industrial equipment. Adding deionized water is a requirement due to the lost hydrogen gas in the reversible replacement reaction of Pb + H2SO4 = PbSO3 + H2O + electricity.
Almost all rechargeable batteries contained lead, sulfuric acid, and water until the advent of Nickel Cadmium.
Capacitors and batteries are operationally different. Your only saving Grace is the dissimilar metals will indeed create a voltage potential due to the galvanic reaction. But it’s no we’re near the amount of energy being stored in the electric field that was created by using a battery to charge it as a capacitor
Can't believe it will give more then 1.5v, probably less. Old graphite zinc batteries were 1.5v.
I made something similar about a year ago but without the graphite rod.
Nominal voltage was about 0.55v without charging.
My main issue with it was that the saline solution dried out after only a few days.
DIY is great, but without proper tools, really only ends up making more e-waste
The motor you are running with that fan as a load atleast needs 3.7v with some amount of current......
If the motor is drawing even 20mA
Then you need a 74mW power
Now you showed the battery is giving out 2.7v in no load condition
That means for 74mW of power your battery needs to supply 27mA
I think the earth is giving you its energy to run that motor......
An red led requires 1.8 V with current as low as 1mA.......so i hope you can run an Led first with that cell
No, you have some misconceptions. It’s tru that the motor needs very low current but you can’t light a red LED with 1mA which is nothing at all.
@@joyofelectronics9782 are you sure you cant light led with 1mA......
And the motor you are using seems to be a 6mm by 7mm motor
Which needs minimum current but with that load it will draw a good amount of current
@@someorother5272 yes l am pretty sure that you cannot light a red LED with 1mA. They are working with 15mA at least. Check it out on internet 👍. By the way thanks and appreciate your attention on the video🙏
Very interesting
it is already possible to finish on graphite
I can't believe this, how can such small battery handle a motor as a load 😳 , it would have be believable if you tested it on an LED or showed the apparatus placed on a clean table.
I will test it myself
It’s real. But here is the point. As the battery is very small the current is very low. It can run such a coreless dc motor but can’t run a LED or high current required devices. If you built a larger one it can handle a LED and other little devices. Afterall this is a way of showing the working principle of the battery. I have no fake videos on my channel bro👍
@@joyofelectronics9782 people doubt everything these days as there is so much BS about and end up not even believing basic scientific principles. Good work pal 👍
@@ianthompson6288 absolutely right my friend. Thanks a lot fella👍
@@ianthompson6288 so true mate! In this video it would have been so easy to have a real battery hidden in his hand with wires running down and that's what most videos these days do which makes these genuine videos hard to honestly believe.
@@dcf476 The way the world has got unfortunately buddy
an element on a galvanic couple graphite + aluminum in a salt electrolyte 1.5V to receive is a dream! More likely 0.6 V regardless of the size of the electrodes... )))
Sir kindly tell what thing used to insulate between the graphite and aluminium foil
You can use paper towel, newspaper or regular paper👍
Thank you
Hey finally not a fake video, like you find everywhere else claiming "free energy" when you know damn well there's a battery hidden underneath the table.
Thanks my friend. There is no fake videos on my channel 👍
I will try it. Thanks.
You are welcome
Subscribed😁😁😁
Which separator did u use?
Paper towels
This is intriguing. I wonder as to the cycle capacity of this.
If we took a roll of paper towels, alumining foil, and thin graphite felt, we could make a cell Jelly Roll Style for some incredible capacities.
In all of the following areas:
1) Amp hour capacity,
2) Amperage delivery, and
3) Bonfire size, when our homemade contraption develops an internal Short Circuit.
Why is #3 not dissuading me from the idea? I might need to start drinking beer again, just so I can ask someone to...
Recycle capacity depend on the thickness of aluminum foil and copper wire attached to graphite. If they are thick enough. You can charge it around 200 times or so👍
@@joyofelectronics9782 Thanh you.
That is wonderful, thank you!!!!
You are welcome
Are you using distilled water? And what type/strength of graphite rod? Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Potable water, distilled or dionized water are good. 2B or 4B lead pencil graphite can be used👍
I wonder if saltwater and lemon juice would work better? I'll have to try this!
No.
did you charge it with another battery ?
if yes cant you use a normal charger?
thats actually amazing i would like to try and make a big one
You can charge with any dc current which provide 3-4 volts and not more than 3Amp
What is the max. discharge current?.
Right? And can we power an electric vehicle with this technology?
Pretty sure that's just a capacitor bro, if you wanna battery you'll have to swap you're salt water with something that will chemically react with the aluminum like lye (ie sodium hydroxide). Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the salt water isn't breaking down the aluminum which means no transference of the energy inside the aluminum happens.
Salt will definitely corrode aluminum, and react galvanically.
wow, really innovative idea.
Thanks 🙏
It's a principle of batteries working, not an innovation
@@halkern well bro we are not in an English class I hope...😊😊
What does the salt water do?
It works as the electrolyte
Can I know what did you use white colour around the graphite rod
Its a tissue to prevent circuit
THERE IS LOTS OF THIS IN DISPOSABLE POD VAPE.. MALAYSIA IS THE MASSIVE USERS FOR THIS POD.. YOU CAN DISASSEMBLE IT AND CAN SEE A SMALL BATTERY EXACTLY LIKE THIS.
Not exactly, Sherlock.
The white material, was that wax paper?
Paper towels but you can either use any porous material or paper👍
Something to hold the electrolyte. Is there a better electrolyte for this than NaCl?
@@mr89firebird you can also use epsom salt
May the salt battery become game changer 👌👍
This is an electrolytic capacitor and it's a dying tech.
Very ingenious
Do you have to use graphite for it to work?
Graphite is better. Because this battery is a kind of Al-air battery
@@joyofelectronics9782 So Aluminum rods would work too? And can you use the center bit of an ordinary pencil (maybe of a higher hardness, I think it contains more graphite) for that? Does it work with small pieces too?
Это ядерный накопитель бесконечной энергии
What
depends on if the graphite is from Japan or near to Tschernobyl
Omg you wait until Elon sees this anyhow I'm glad you exposed him. You are a true hero.
Whats the mAh? Capacity on that? Also constant discharge rate in C?
This is more capacitor than battery, so it will be empty pretty quick (depending on the load)
Fun things that the "COOL" teachers show the kids at school!!
or be a cool dad to his son, teach the lil guy to be a survivor anywhere.
This just blew my mind 🤯🤯🤯
How much mah would be in this ultra light battery?🤔🤔
This why on yacht made of carbon we don't use aluminium piece but titanium or stainless steel. The salt induces a phenomenon of galvanization (ion, anode, cathode) this rots the resin matrix and the stratified layers delaminate.
Maybe you can have a more powerful battery with a layer of graphite and aluminum powder, maybe with a solution of peroxygène (short life time I guess) or an alcaline solution (long life time).
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При такой комбинации напряжение будет не больше1,2В. А ток мизерный. Даже такой маленький моторчик такая батарейка не потянет. Здесь используется батарейка от одноразовой сигареты.
@@Partizan862кхм.. думаю ,эта "батарейка" делалась просто для показа самой работы батареи,вряд ли мастер собирался делать нормальную и качественную вещь... кончено ток будет михерным ,тем более объем. Но как пример работы электролиза в применении химического источника тока в жизни очень даже хорош 👍 , такое бы на уроках в школе показывать.
capacity????
Bro what you used to fill the water
Aaaah yes...just like the Egyptians did it! Awesome little experiment.
What’s the wire used?
Awesome
Respect!
Two of these in series and we have enough voltage for all our 5.0 V USB devices!
How many pairs like that will we need in parallel to charge my phone?
To built larger one is a better solution to caherge your phone. But if you say l will use this size big one. Maybe totally you need 30 of them. But as l said build in larger size is a better way👍
Works with a Lemon, copper and zinc, too or with a potato, a copper penny and a galvanized nail (zinc).
But this is rechargeable, so yeah :)
Cool I'll have to try that one
👍
It's work😊😊
Salty water or NAOH + water ?
Both are work
OK, will test!
I love your work thanks
Thanks 🙏
@@joyofelectronics9782 man I also have more than you don't expect
2.7V is very high voltage.
Did you check how much A it gives?
Approximately 20mA
@@joyofelectronics9782 If you use water with K2SO4 you can get more mA (about 50-80).
@@elektrotomasz k2so4 is neutral, are you sure about that??
@@Canadianpyro88 Yes, it works for me.
@@Canadianpyro88 NaCl is also neutral, as both as salts.
Please tell me what are the components.
Lead pencil rod, paper towel, aluminum foil and salty water as electrolyte
Thank you soo much
Very cool, one question tho: any guess on the capacity of this battery?
2,7 volts and 20 mA
@@joyofelectronics9782 how many mAhr?
Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers. As they say in the business, there's liars, there's worse liars, and then there's battery manufacturers.
This is NOT a rechargeable battery. It only work when there is water content in the salt mixture. 👌 It keeps working as long as the salt mixture has water AND the aluminum foil has not been “eaten” away.👌 good project for a physics class, though.
Yeah, most of the batteries cannot work without electrolyte. So you should make a proper sealing for the battery 👍
It wouldn't surprise me if the battery works immediately after adding the salt water electrolyte and it cannot be recharged.
What's it capacity/weight ?
2.7 volts, 20mA for about 10 minutes.👍if you charge 15 minutes or so.
@@joyofelectronics9782 so around 10mA hr
Yo conecte mi smart de 54 pulgadas , veo nexflit sin problemas con este invento...gracias Mac Givert..!!!🤣😂🤣😂
How long will it run that little motor the one you were powering on?
Until the battery hidden in his hand dies.
astonishing. I'll try and see if it works. salt at what concentration?
At least 1 mol or higher
@@joyofelectronics9782 thats not a concentration....
1 mol per what?
1 Liter of water?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molar_concentration "A solution with a concentration of 1 mol/L is said to be 1 molar, commonly designated as 1 M."
Nice AAA
How many mah is this can you tell me plz 🙏🙏🙏
Around 20mA
Super cool!
🤨unbelievable
Approximately how long does it last?🤔
Ten minutes
Oh nice, maybe it works for TWS devices
@@joyofelectronics9782did you take a paper to roll on graphite rod ???
@@harsh_21_22 l used paper towel. It soaks the electrolyte faster.
What is the white material? is it a piece of cloth
Paper towels my friend 👍
Thanks
Bro it sound like a water is boiling
@@satyamkumarverma7702 yes bro it is normal
Then it will work ?
What kind of wire and what gauge of foil¿?
Doesn’t matter so much.
@@joyofelectronics9782 - Nice...
nice👌
What is capacity of this battery?
This is amazing bruh
Thank you so much for showing me this!
very good
What's the capacity of this battery?
Is there any posibility to make 5v battery in this way?
Build to of them and connect in series you will get 5.4 volts
Excellent. Good work.
Thanks a lot
@@joyofelectronics9782 i work at a battery company, i love batteries. I will be making one of these to show my coworkers, they will love it.
@@andrewut7ya511 cool 👍
Can you make a tesla coil without using 2N22222 transistor
I remember testing different materials as a kid, never occurred to me to try "charging" a cell. It seems obvious now, but less so then I guess.
2.7 volt uf???
Un super capacitor exelente 🐱
Thanks 👍
Congratulations, you have solved the climate change crisis 🎉
How 2 recharge it?
How does it work? please