Notes' Progressive Metal Starter Pack
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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For those looking to get into Progressive Metal, here are some albums and bands to start you off with. Keep in mind, I took a relatively narrow approach to what is 'Progressive Metal' with the knowledge that subgenera starter packs are coming your way :)
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The Mountain is a masterpiece, it's in my all-time top 10, Haken's first 3 albums are classics for me...
Same, Haken is my all time favorite
Opeth beats Haken any day for me
@@SuperRomanHoliday Okay...?
I just went and gave Aquarius a thorough listen after hearing of Haken but never sitting down to actually play some. Wow. That album is just gorgeous. Thrilled with the recommendation!
Haken is so good. All their albums and the EP are awesome!
Love Haken! I prefer them so much over Dream Theater for a Progressive Metal Band! Even tho I love DT too! :)
Fates Warning: Spectre Within, Awaken the Guardian, No Exit, Perfect Symmetry, Parallels, Pleasant Shade of Gray, Disconnected, Theories of flight. Watchtower: Control and Resistance Dream Theater: Images and Words, Awake Queensryche: Rage for Order Operation Mindcrime, Promised Land
Operation mindcrime is my favorite album of all time but I’d argue Promise Land is their most progressive and easily most underrated
Celestial Elixir is an amazing piece
ARK - Burn the Sun
Dali's Dilemma - Manifesto for Futurism
Nothing from Tool?! And I urge you NOT to give up on Caligula's Horse... ;)
Also, Dream Theater's Awake is also essential listening. That's my favourite DT album anyhoo.
Who is Michael Akelfart?
Oh and Anneke van Giersbergen was not on The Human Equation, she was on The Electric Castle.
Trekkie 135 r/whooooosshh
Infyra he is a member of opeth
Frontman of gay band called hopeth
Thanks so much for doing this video. I was running out of ideas of what to listen. Now I will be happy for quite few weeks. Good job!
As far as some great traditional prog-metal albums I'd recommend that I didn't see on your video that I would call recommended/extra credit listening :
Sieges Even - "The Art of Navigating by the Stars"
Tool - "Lateralus" (The only band/album I am confused as to why it didn't make your video)
Threshold - "Dead Reckoning" ("Legend of the Shires" from this year is also very very good)
Karnivool - "Themata" or "Sound Awake"
Subsignal - "Paraíso"
Caligula's Horse - "The Tide, the Thief & River's End" or "Bloom"
Earthside - "A Dream in Static" (I really recommend, their only album so far, another great debut act that came out in 2015)
Soen - "Lykala"
A band that isn’t talked a lot about and I feel should be mentioned is Shadow Gallery. I’d recommend their self-titled release, Tyranny, Legacy, and Digital Ghost. They play some atmospheric and softer metal, utilizing multiple instruments, like piano (which sometimes is the main instrument) and the flute.
Love Tool but they are on the outer fringes of prog anything. Dream Theater IS prog metal.
Thanks for this video! 🎸🍺🍺
Shadow Gallery, Spheric Universe Experience, Dali's Dilemma (every prog person should own this 1-off album), Andromeda, Darkwater, Dead Soul Tribe, Psychotic Waltz, Dreamscape, Fates Warning, Liquid Tension Experiment, Mayadome, O.S.I., Pain of Salvation, Redemption, Riverside, Sieges Even to name a few
Shadow Gallery is severely underrated.
I'd add Vanden Plas, Superior, Soul Cages, Concepiton and Royal Hunt to the list as well. Conception in particular is a great prog metal starter band. They don't get as complex with the theory, but they'll dabble on it enough to warrant the prog moniker, and their vocals/lyrics are great.
Glad you're taking the more tech/extreme/death/djent/sludge oriented progressive metal bands and giving them their own video.. That whole spectrum of prog-metal is so vast and varied that you'd miss out on too much trying to combine them with the more traditional prog metal bands.
Also where are you going to include some of the not-quite-metal, but "heavy prog" (going by progarchives standards) bands like Riverside, Uriah Heep, Porcupine Tree, Coheed and Cambria, Katatonia, The Mars Volta, Anekdoten, or (newer) Opeth?
Thanks!
So here's where I differ from Prog Archives. I find bands like Coheed and Cambria, The Dear Hunter, Decemberists, and Thank You Scientists to be more 'Alternative Modern Prog', and bands like 'Porcupine Tree, Riverside, The Mars Volta, and even Phideaux, Motorpsycho and Pain of Salvation, to be 'Contemporary Prog'.
It comes down to how their music 'fits' in the current climate, what they add, and what are their influences, and what is their expression. I might have to make a separate video describing each one :P
Awesome, thanks for the reply, and keep up the good work
That Native Construct album has some phenomenal songs on it. Come Hell or High Water might be one of the best songs ever written. Shame it will probably fade as time goes on and the limited audience it found will no longer grow and share this work of art.
A prog metal starter pack with no Fates Warning? Awaken the Guardian and No Exit at least, and the more recent Arch/Matheos album is amazing.
I would say Townsend's ocean machine is a required listen for progressive metal for sure (you have heard it, right?)
Joel Robinson ocean machine is unspeakably amazing
I was just at the ‘images and words and beyond’ tour, Dream Theatre \m/
How was it DoITrollYou? I catch the last show in the tour. We're the boys on top of their game?
I missed them when they came to Toronto (Ran out of concert funds for this year), but I hear it was really good! I hope they put out a DVD / Blu Ray of the performance.
Notes Reviews I think they are! I feel like I read somewhere about it! I wish they made a DVD for The Astonishing though.
DoITrollYou How was LaBrie? Was he good?
Same! The Austin TX show
Mercy falls from Seventh Wonder is a good album.
Underrated
For me the first album that was truly progressive and truly metal was also the first extreme progressive metal album. Voivod - Killing technology, a full year before operation mindcrime. They also released Dimesion Hateross, which doubled down on the prog,a few months after mindcrime, but the album was written and recorded before it. They have to be included in any prog metal starter pack simply for the importance they have. Cant go wrong with the canadian masters :)
very good stuff here, some I am not familiar with I will be checking out. DT-love the LIVE Scenes from a Memory-going to explore Devin more now......thx for this.
Very interesting as always !
Prog metal began with King Crimson. From their first album, but for a single track, go to Red.
Another proto-prog metal band would be Blue Oyster Cult. Not everything they did was prog or even metal, but the Harvester of Eyes / Flaming Telepaths / Astronomy merged tracks on Secret Treaties comprise an early prog metal epic, and they have some proggy tracks on other albums as well, even if no single album is wholly prog.
Here's an idea for a project: Prog tracks from non-prog bands.
Gotta check out Caligula's Horse. Their new album, Rise Radiant, is awesome, and "The Ascent" is a great way to close the album
threshold, so underrated
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on an (unfortunately) obscure couple of bands called maudlin of the Well/Kayo Dot. Basically two different eras of the same band led by Toby Driver. maudlin of the Well was a progressive metal band with a myriad of influences stitched together by young experimenting musicians, often having a mixture of doom metal and new age music (check out Bath and Leaving your Body Map specifically to hear this), after some time though the band ended up breaking up, Toby Driver went off to college to study music and reformed a new band with some of the same members, Kayo Dot. Kayo Dot is immediately vastly different (often branded as avant-garde metal) but still incredible experimental with their writing, Choirs of the Eye's sound was unlike anything I had ever heard and so it took a while to get into . Not necessarily because the music was ugly, it was actually incredible beautiful the more times I listened to it, but its just that the music is so DENSE with ideas and composed like a classical song without repetition, the song Pitcher of Summer kept me coming back to the album due to how it blended an atmospheric ballad with poetic prose. Choirs of the Eye if often regarded as their best album, but its worth noting that they rarely ever stayed in one style of music for more than one album. Probably their heaviest most chaotic album was Hubardo, and their most recent album, Plastic House on Base of Sky is a mixture of electronic 80's synthwave mixed with progressive rock.
I hope you give those guys a shot, I'd maybe start with maudlin of the Well to get used to the writing style so that Kayo Dot's music is a little more accessible when you get there. (FYI, there's a motW album called Part The Second which was released in the middle of Kayo Dot's career as sort of a reunion album of ideas that never came out, it basically bridges the tonality shift between motW and Kayo Dot)
Shoutout to Leprous yay! Have to point out, Coal is Leprous best album by far followed by Bilateral imo.
Pathosray from Italy. They had two fantastic albums.
Well now there's VOLA and Thank You Scientist
I LOVe how you call all the albums Pieces
Ayreon rules! Hakens amazing! Aquarius is better though as is Visions. Good list. Going to check out Symphony X!
I call the Ayreon album with the 1s and 0s in the title "Binary Y" (the title is the letter Y in binary digits) and the Symphony X album V "Five" (it's their fifth album, it came out within a few weeks of Spock's Beard's V and they both have a desert scene on the cover ...
There is a sound desynch around the 8 minute mark.
Also, I'd say that Leprous's best work and requiered listen is Tall Poppy Syndrome!
The Human Equation is an excellent choice, I've grown to love this album, its a bit operatic though.
what about conception?
Good vid. To me the “must listen” Symphony X album is V, and I feel its no contest, but I keep seeing videos that suggest I am in the minority. Curious choice with Systematic Chaos from DT. Not one of my personal favs
Guys check out the album “Paragon Circus” by a young French band called Altesia. It is a masterpiece and it’s only their debut album !
My faves are Karnivool, Fair to Midland, Agent Fresco and TesseracT, check em out if you haven't!
Anneke isn't on the human equation, you got the prog nerd in me triggered :P
I can also recomend Circus Maximus (e.g. the song "used"). One of the best guitar solos Ive ever heard. Furthermore, I would say you missed the band "Angra".
Tool?
Ayan XD I remember not liking tool when i first heard them. I love them now but probably not a good starter band for most people
tool is like a experimental band and a metal band were bring up togheter, when you come to prog metal is one or the other iyou dont seek for both
you will get ur anwser in 13 years
Nope. Never.
vega tss They're actually the band that got me deeper into the metal side of prog, so they can be a good starter band.
Just going to have to voice my opinion on the required listening for Leprous, everyone should absolutely start with coal, it's the blend of their two different sounds, if you like the more traditional prog metal elements then you work your way backwards through their discography, but if you like the repetetive sections, the more traditional songwriting or the stabbing syncopation then move forward towards melina. Five astounding albums, but definitely start in the middle with coal.
6:35 "Mikael Echofart" lol
I'm dead🤣💀
What about Tesseract? And maybe some songs from Angra or even their last album called OMNI which is more prog than power metal.
I would also include the first three Circus Maximus albums
Havoc took time, but it grew on me and I now let it join the first 3 albums are amazing.
@@arronwilliams2520 As do I...can't wait to hear what they do next!
Where do Karnivool or COG etc sit?
If your intro and favorite album from Symphony X is Divine Wings then I'm really surprised why you didn't also list Twilight in Olympus. They are like the exact same, both albums. All of the songs on both albums could really be on the same album altogether. Cheers!
My recommendation from Devin Townsend: Ocean Machine Biomech.
Daydream XI is a great new progmetal band
Biomech Ocean Machine is easily Townsend's best album, absolutely mandatory listening.
I wonder where Opeth and Mastodon are. I can't imagine you didn't put them because of the harsher vocals when you did put Leprous on there.
Crimson Glory - Transcendence
Interested to know where Riverside and Pain of Salvation will be featured... 🤔
They're coming up in a new starter pack later next month. It may be the biggest one yet :)
PoS, Riverside and Anathema I'd put in a category called "emotional progressive rock". All of them really know how to put their true emotions in their songs.
Looking forward to that! ;) Currently exploring more Genesis albums because of you. Next will be Marillion!
Oh man, prepare yourself for Marillion. They're pretty intense! I'd start with Script, and Marbles (gives the best idea for both sides of the band).
Yeah, I was thinking about doing that. Starting with Script and then go to the album from the 90s you suggested as a required listen (1994's "Brave") and then Marbles. But I may just skip Brave for now and see where it takes me.
Here in Portugal we have a radio station called m80, which focuses on hits from the 70s, 80s and 90s. I have found Genesis on there but it's almost always from the 80s. Songs like Invisible Touch and Mama. But the other day I caught No One Can by Marillion and it made me interested in more :D
You're recommending Train of Thought over Awake? Blasphemy!
Well Train of Thought is the most "balls to the wall", metal sounding album of the band, so it makes sense. Also, my personal favourite DT album!
@@konstantinosharden9233 it's so incredibly good man. I love every second of train of thought.
I fucking love train of thought 😂
Great video, I still wanna know your opinion on Vektor ;)
Tool, Meshuggah, even a couple of Deftones albums
i can recommend UNTIL RAIN
dude thank you i found this video. i used to listen native construct for quite sometimes.. and at this moment i forgot the name of the band/any song title.. then i want to listen it again and start searching with no exact keyword.. and then i found your video with native constract album cover in the video cover..
Akhmad Kresna great band
Shadow Gallery - Tyranny
Shadow Gallery - Room V
Hey man , love your channel. Do you like' Voivod'?
Second best Canadian band ever, enough said!
Haken is definitely a bridge between prog metal and prog rock.
If someone asked me for a prog metal starter kit, I'd just hand them a shit ton of Devin.
OM, especially the "byzantine" trilogy.
Nightwish should be in there. Fantastic band.
no Tool or Porcupine Tree? those are the two best non-brutal prog metal bands in my opinion
How is the there no Tool on here??
Can you review some Between the buried and me reviews?😀 you just have to check them out! Btw whats the deal with the supernice hoodie?
I reviewed Coma Ecliptic: ruclips.net/video/ToDJnlGXezE/видео.html
as well as did a listening party for Colors: ruclips.net/video/gz0fh6wJxGU/видео.html
And here's some thoughts of when I saw them live: ruclips.net/video/T5B0Ibt1LS0/видео.html
And It was a bit chilly in my apartment, and I love my hoodie :)
oh, but we need reviews for all of them! :) xD
Maybe not all of them, but Colors, Parallax 1 and 2 and the great misdirect :)
Thanks!!
Love these starter list. Great choices for the new listeners.
I would suggest Royal Hunt - Paradox, Shadow Gallery - Tyranny, and Kamelot - The Black Halo as well. And I also consider Metallica's And Justice for All prog metal. My favorite album of theirs.
OH MAN! How could I forget Kamelot!?! The Black Halo is just brilliant.
You did well. Conception is the essential, important band of the vocalist of Kamelot.
How can you forget Redemption , Shadow Gallery, just to name a few? I know you can't name them all ! Lol
Missed tesseract. Pretty much everything they have released is quite accessible math djent metal which is an insane achievement in my mind
Why does nobody ever mention between the buried and me?
Check the brutal metal starter pack 🙂
and justice for all?
ZeManeiro ADMIN Great album, but I think it's a little more of a technical thrash album.
Shadow Gallery?
Shadow Gallery and Savatage should have been mentioned.
Glaring problem: You are wearing a Taylor Swift hoodie.
So, for like 3 min in the video I had 1 band that keep coming in mind : Tool
Second Watchtower
* To recommend as a required listening to Leprous (nothing against them), ok
* Skiping to Pain of Salvation or Riverside on prog metal frame, it's a bit suspicious
* But forget other priority listenings on prog metal as Queensrÿche, Fates Warning, Threshold, Vanden Plas, Sieges Even, Adagio, Shadow Gallery, Ark or Circus Maximus??? ... It's NOT serious at all!!!.
Prog pop next? 👍
Genesis: Duke.
What about Tool???
*sad "Awake" noises*
Is Tool not prog metal?
It kind of is, but it is not nearly as strong as, for instance, Art Metal by Jonas Hellborg.
Don't know if Human Equation is better than Electric Castle... Space One is better realised.
Oh, I know... It IS.
;-)
good video notes !!!! other prog metal bands that people should check it out
SHADOW GALLERY
ROYAL HUNT
THRESHOLD
ANGRA
ZERO HOUR
REDEMPTION
The real godfather of prog music came in the late 60s! You don't even mentioned Pink Floyd, King Crimson etc lots of this music pioneer came from UK! All their basic song writing, musical arrangement, soundscape, symphonic texture etc influence lots of prog metal bands today! Even Beatles are a big influence to DT song writing. In the end of 90s while rhrash metal music scene getting bigger. Bands like Death, Cynic, Atheist, Fear Factory molded a new style of metal music. And from this generation of musicians the prog metal scene became more commercial and then DT came out from their garage to became the real deal of prog metal crusaders and become a successor in mainstream music industry.
Tam Brotal Pink Floyd was prog, but not metal.
So if every 30 years there's a rebirth... In the late 2020s there will be a 3rd wave?
It'll never happen but still i hope in it
Larga vida Haken lml
Everything was going great until that Next to None recommendation. Those kids are terrible lol
Daniel Michels I agree, listened to all of their singles, and some live footage. I'd say Max Portnoy is the only one in the band that plays excellent live; the guitar seems pretty sloppy live. But the major deal breaker for me is the singing, at the moment he still sings like a teenager; though he could improve in the coming years.
It's very difficult to listen to someone discussing pro metal, while wearing a Taylor Swift t-shirt.
I do like the channel though.
LOL
I just can’t like Tool pretty boring their music is made up of small sections not really well linked together imo
You would have a lot more credibility by not wearing the Taylor Swift hoodie
I call the Ayreon album with the 1s and 0s in the title "Binary Y" (the title is the letter Y in binary digits) and the Symphony X album V "Five" (it's their fifth album, it came out within a few weeks of Spock's Beard's V and they both have a desert scene on the cover ...