My 5 Year Jaguar F Type R Service Was Eye Watering
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- My 5 Year Jaguar F Type R Service Was Eye Watering now that my F Type is 5 years old, it was due for a service. There were also some repairs and I discuss some tragic findings as well as share my costs of servicing this go around.
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Well Mark after a year of watching your videos i broke down and bought an R. Im in love!! Good videos
As always I like your commentary. Just a couple of things . A I love that car...I'm aiming for a 2020 metallic green with tan interior. Our family car is an 2010 xf. It's been virtually problem free. I do most of my own maintenance oil, coolant flush /fill, brakes , suspension , seals , gaskets etcetera. I think the only thing I could imput is the rust on your underside. I own a dustless blasting company and deal with rust all the time. If it was me I'd get that car off the ground and pressure wash that underside with a sulfite remover and spray a rust converter / sealer/ primer and coat with spray an effective epoxy . I was going to say coat with a bedliner but if your just treating rust it might potentially come back and I wouldn't want it trapped. That's it. Keep those vids coming
Thanks Douglas, that’s a great tip and I agree it would be great to give it a good cleansing. The fortunate part is that most of the rest of the car is aluminum and plastic so little will corrode other than exhaust and cross frame. Either way, I like clean parts as well.
Hi Mark, great video as always! I have my drivetrain fluid exchange service soon and they said it would cost me $750 (US). I thought I would share that with you. I love my F-type R and your car is awesome too! Keep up the good videos!
Thanks for sharing and yes they do charge a lot for what we are actually getting but I also like having solid records which helps if a person ever sells and records are all available.
I'm looking at getting one of these. I watched my neighbor do an oil change on his. He used an oil extractor, changed the filter and poured in the oil. He said the parts were $100.
Luv you Brotha & I really appreciate this vid
Thanks so much for the support and hope you are having a great weekend.
Hi Mark. I live in the UK and have just had an oil service carried out on my Jaguar XE which was £200 which equates to about 340 Canadian Dollars. I love my XE but would dearly love to upgrade to an F-type in the next year or two.
Hi David, that sounds like a great plan. I personally really like the XE and XF models, the F Type does feels particularly special. As long as the practical question is answered, then it’s a full steam ahead. Have a wonderful weekend.
$500 is a heavy hit. But when you consider your car MSRP'ed for $140,000 it seems pretty fair.
Yes it’s not terrible for sure but less is always more really
How is $500 fair for an oil change? I don't care how much your cars MSRP was.. An oil change shouldn't cost much more than $90.00 unless you do it yourself. Even my F350, which takes 4 gallons (Yes, gallons, not quarts) of Synthetic Diesel motor oil costs (just barely) under $100 to do myself.
@@CafeRacer1975 The oil for an F type costs more than $90 lol, can't compare an agricultural vehicle with a sports car. A bugatti oil change costs $25,000
@@scoops0406 tell me you don't work on cars without telling me you don't work on cars. You're proving your ignorance with that comment. Oil is oil my guy. Full synthetic oil for an F-type is $90, or are you ignorant enough to believe they (Jaguar) make special oil for themselves?
@CafeRacer1975 So all oil is the same grade and price, right well if you work on car God help you, you should have learnt something by now, I wouldn't let you near mine. Especially if you've been doing it a while and still know nothing.
This is pretty reasonable. I have had a similar experience with my V6 F Type here in the UK: circa £300 for a service (C$500). BMW want £400 to service my uncle's 118D! I was charged £775 for a Porsche service (C$1300) so the F Types are pretty cheap for servicing relative to the German competition.
Yes I agree, while it’s not cheap I also do not feel that I am getting greased
“Federal thieves”, I like that. 😏 The equivalent here in GB is HMRC (His Majesty's Revenue and Customs, another type of pestilence. Enjoy your ride bud, absolutely the correct attitude. Thinking of pulling the proverbial trigger on one of these myself.
Haha indeed, always someone with their hands in our pockets but yes these cars are great. Still loving the F Type.
Eyeing used 3.0 F Types. Can buy a gently used one for sub $30k here in US. Lots of room for maintenance & repair costs for an awesome car 👍
Right on. Lovely cars indeed
Bit of a bad luck story (granted not as bad as others). My 2015 V6S has gone through pretty big repairs.. it does have a little over 90k miles so it is more expected. Ive had the "new" upgraded Y pipe crack on me and that was replaced with the aluminum ones I found thru the forum (also replaced that coupler on the SC you were mentioning for an EATON one) . AC compressor replaced, an air leak from the symposer replaced, coolant tank replaced, a sagging leather headliner I DIY'ed fixed, and now am needing a new LSD differential (I truly hope you never experience the howling and grinding noise)... Never gone to the dealer for these repairs tho, always been independent shop or myself and a buddy.
Thanks for sharing and yes a DIY helps save tons of cash
So easy to do oil changes from the top on these. No need to get “rooked” at the dealer, at least for the oil change end of things.
You are totally right and I went out to buy a pump so next time I may take a run at it myself
Oil service at the dealer usually means changing oil, oil and air filters and also fuel and cabin filters every second service.
So you've worn the brakes and tyres out and broken the windscreen, and you're seriously comparing the servicing a a high performance car to that of a Toyota or Honda. The Y pipe was modified post 2017 models, don't know about the subframes but here is the UK it's wise to have the car lanoguarded anyway every year.
Still gotta love these cars either way.
Great video
Thanks for the visit
Hi Mark. Great overview. After the first complimentary oil change, I have changed oil myself. I have done both methods, of draining out the bottom or sucking out the top. If I remember cost would be a little less than half of yours. That is buying their oil and filter. Good info on windshield! What was cost of glass insurance?
Hi Randal, that’s great to hear and I will be doing my own soon too. You say you are buying the consumables at the dealer? As far as the cost of glass coverage goes I tried to check my documents and could not find the premium applies other than it’s comprehensive and has a 250 dollar deductable. Either way it’s money well spent around here with these roads. Hope you are having a wonderful weekend. Now it’s time for me to sit and catch the oil on TV
I just bought a 2018 400 sport with 4,500 miles. Its like new and im trying to mentally prepare for this. 😅
Sounds great Jason and congrats on the new ride. What color and body style?
Use - Mannol Fully Synthetic 0W-20 Engine Oil Legend Ultra Longlife GM DEXOS 1 @ £50 for 10 liters rather than £38/liter from Jaguar and change the oil at least every 5,000 miles
Thank
I do my own oil in my garage....ravenol top tier oil and a filter abotu 85 dollars.....pennzoil ultra woudl be 50 or less for the oil. I had the dealer do the rust stuff and subframes. It was 4k total (a lot of labor). Glass...the electrical wires for heating make JLR glass pricey if you have it......just fact of life.
Did metal coolant pipes, s/c piece, s/c has oil that needs to be renewed/changed, thermostat, water pump, belts, plugs, etc. That was 2000. Also did front/middle and rear diff fluids.
Great point!
i have to say driving my FType in Edmonton scares me...fast corrosion - windshield chips gravel....
Absolutely same here Doug. The roads are crap too so dodging cracks and potholes certainly creates stress so I try to take routes that I am more familiar with.
Hello Mark merv from Australia I have a bmw x5 30d 2022 I paid 650 dollars for my 12 month service cost 20 dollars to top up my windscreen bottle cleaner
Hi Merv, great to hear from you. Yes the dealers are not really doing us a whole lot of favours. Its a business for sure.
Apparently, the Y pipe should cost about £400 ($500?) in labour from an independent specialist. $2k sounds very expensive 👎
in Canada they generally rip us off
giving jaguar 500 can dollars for an oil change and visual inspection is throwing money away, it would be the easiest oil change you could ever wish for you just need a $ 90 vacuum pot from princess auto thats the handiest tool to have in your shop watch the sales like a hawk and the proper oil can be had at a reasonable price find a pet parts man that will get you proper oil filters for $ 35 ( the real price without the obscene mark up ) you can consistently do your oil in 15 minutes for less than a $150 dollars from above , and for those who say you should do the oil from below these cars were designed to be vacuumed you will get more oil out every time also if you do it from the bottom after 4 or 5 oil changes the under body covers will just fall off they were never meant to be removed repetitively, as for the visual , any well read (the forums) owner will do a better inspection than most techs who have very little skin in the game a hand held infa red thermometer will tell you the state of many of the systems on your car instantly. if you have a problem you dont understand find a good independent shop , avoid the dealer, this is coming from someone who was a factory apprenticed mechanic admittedly in the late 90s but since then jaguars attitude to the service side has become even worse the only not hard but tedious bit is you have to sneak up carefully on the full mark of the stupid electronic gauge , if you overfill the computer will have a hissy fit telling you to flat bed it to the dealer , but hey you have a vacuum pot and can solve that problem in seconds
Thank you so much Callum, yes I agree I even went ahead and bought a pump from Princess Auto and just have to make the leap so in time I plan to do these oil services. The other part is the reset of the service program and we should be good to go. There is always good money on the table and that’s the way I have generally approached the ownership of most of my cars and have adopted this attitude of DIY which, like you say, also gives you the opportunity to inspect and clean a little”while you are in there”. . Hope you have a great weekend.
@@markholubetz hay mark after you vac the oil out wiggle the vac tube into the cavity at the bottom of the oil filter housing you will suck out an extra cup and a half of oil i have a AWDv6 but crazy as it sounds the 6 and the 8 share the same block casting so everything should be the same , i to will need a set of pirrellis by the end of summer but am not finding any deals out there good old supply chain issues i guess might try those new continental's heard nothing but good things about them .I just keep written notes about my servicing , i have a disdain for the electronics on my 351 but everything else is so good i just choose to ignore the driver electronic interface i am to busy driving it enthusiastically to be distacted by all that, i have owned many high end cars , and very few can compare with the sense of occasion i get with this car
Why has your Y pipe not been changed?
They upgraded all of them after 2018 to the single piece instead of the double piece. It's frustrating that they pawn off these costs to the buyer as if it wasn't a manufacturer defect, just like the subframe.
I agree, that also what I thought, and I will have to verify the production date but mine is a 2018. Yes this feels like a replacement that should be covered by the dealer.
So couple of grand for replacing a supercharger bearing and a plastic Y-pipe ? That seems like a huge ripoff, which poured a lot of cold water on the whole Ownership Proposition.
Here in Canada the drive is not the only thing getting the shaft. Consumers do too
That’s not too bad for the Oil change on your Jaguar. Our 13’ Maserati Quattroporte 4.7 S was $480 U.S for a full oil change with filter at the local Maserati dealership in florida. These luxury import dealers usually charge about $300 an hour for labor. That cheap common Toyota, Chevy and Honda don’t. But do you really want to have to deal with there awful dealership experience. 🤮
I love the Maserati too such character and for sure for one oil change per year, it’s still reasonable. With that said, it’s always great to find a reputable and reliable 3rd party shop that does not want to hose us at the service counter
@@markholubetzabsolutely true the Maserati is amazing my wife loves the sound of the Ferrari based engine and exhaust. The Interior is spacious and luxurious for a family. Parts are expensive if needed. In the last 2 years a clock spring went it was $2,500 including labor to fit it. But the warranty we got 2 years ago covered it which was then $250 deductible plus the oil change. So not bad.
You’re right I’ll have to start looking around for a good service shop after the warranty ends though in 2 years. As you should too. You should make a video about how the Jaguar experience is like at the dealership compared to Mercedes or BMW or Chevy for me the worse experience ever as I’ve had 2 Vettes. Never again!
So ,I'm lucky enough, as mazda tech, I'm doing my service by my self, last time I just paid oil filter and oil less than 50$
Wow, thats a win for sure. Almost for free.
These rusting cross members underneath…Has this issue been addressed on the newer F-types, or will this still happen for someone buying a new one now?
Honestly not sure but some say there is an updated part even for the older car so there is a possibility that it gets better
You are right there are subtle improvements in every aspect from cosmetics to mechanical enhancements along the way. With that said I see a few at the local dealer so it does take time but there may be some options indeed
@@markholubetz I was referring the final year special edition ones for 2024. The dealer I’m dealing with is still waiting for allocations. They do have a lot of f-types 2023 on their floor though due to the way stock was delayed for the pandemic. Their orders all came in at once or something. From what I understand there are quite a few 2023s on the ground at dealers in Canada for these types of reasons.
One last question: Is this car AWD and do you drive it during the winter? I live in Alberta, and I prefer to drive awd in the winter, so I plan to keep my corvette for the summer and drive this jaguar in the winter. Too bad that there are so many stones on the roads in the winter time. 😢
Hi Peter, yes I do sometimes drive mine in winter but honestly very selectably as I have other vehicles. I would strongly suggest full PPF wrap as I have especially protecting the bumper/nose/fenders/A-pillars/lower rear bumper and also use the Clear-plex on the windshield with a little X-peel on the glass roof. That’s how keep the paint in decent shape in these nasty gravel infested roads in Alberta. Oh….and yes only on winter wheels and not the P- Zeros.
@@markholubetz Ok, thanks for the advice! I will make sure to install a PPF wrap as early as possible.
The windshield replacement was awfully expensive though. So like $6,000 ?
My friends top glass was that money but my windshield was 2400 but still quite pricey really
@@markholubetz What's top glass? Panorama?
Been trying to find my next car I might get a 2016 ftype can find a used one with 20k miles for 40k but it’s that or a mustang I can’t decide
Mustangs are great but the F Type is on another level particularly with the V8
do you think i should get the rwd v8 or awd@@markholubetz
Is the materials wearing away on the inside on yours? The push start button and the steering wheel?
Hi, no they are not but I also try to minimize the amount of button pushes as everyone has a fixed number of available operations
@@markholubetz Thanks for the reply!
Hey mark, you might’ve mentioned but I might’ve missed it. But how many miles is yours? I’m looking at a 2015 r with 44k miles for 46k.
Hi Steve yes my car is a 2018 R with about 64000 kms and is still perfect so if that car is well maintained it may be a decent buy. Service history is important with these cars
where in canada do you live
Hi Peter I am in Alberta, we get our fair share of winter here, although this year has been very mild so far
@@markholubetz Hey, I am also in Alberta (near Calgary) 😊 And yeah, unfortunately we did not get enough snow for Christmas… Do you drive your Jaguar in the Winter? I want to buy the same car for the winter, but those stones on Deerfoot really suck! I will probably need to install a special film on the front.
How does maintenance/insurance costs for this Jaguar compare to Corvette c7 of the same year?
Hi Peter, I have never compared directly to the Vette, but I see it being quite similar with the Jag averaging 500-1500 per year depending on how much it needs. Then there’s tires, brakes, windshields, etc and that’s where it starts to add up.
Great video as always. Would love an F-Type but I just can't justify the cost, especially since I love convertibles and it doesn't have enough room for my wife and dog. So I bought a 2023 JCW Mini Cooper convertible, it has four seats and handles like a go-cart. It's also built extremely well with top quality fit and finish.
Just get rid of the wife.
You bet, sounds like a fun new car you bought and yes the BMW based Mini is a stout ride and feels nice to drive. Convertibles are wonderful and I see why you wanted one, as a matter of fact, I have a video upcoming right away that talks about this topic . Cheers
@@daveevans6783 She is the brains so she has to stay.
Haha….cheers
Dude, it could have been a lot worse. You forgot your driving an FType not a Camry. Your pissed Jaguar has cancelled the model, understandable.
Thanks for watching and I agree, I hear of some repairs other owners have and there is a huge potential.
@@markholubetz Your welcome. Time will fix it. Such a pretty car, can't understand why it did not have the success of the previous sports Jaguars?
My 3-year old Honda Civic Si 2020 has cost me absolutely zero in repairs. Just 6 oil changes.
@@jasonknight5863 😂😂😂😂
A Honda Civic why just why...
@@daveevans6783 $500 oil change? Ripoff
It is a ripoff at 500 bucks but the way I see it that’s about 350 more than a Camry or other and so in 10 years, the extra 3500 is money well spent for this level of fun to drive excitement. With that said a Civic is fun driver and easy to own.
Thanks Jason and I agree that life is short and I know I certainly want little or no regrets and as a car guy, will live it to the fullest
what year is your car?
It’s a 2018
Don't do wind...
Thanka
Way too much wind noise. Hard to hear.
Sorry
Pretty car Mark......... i have owned two Jags both were nightmares...Beautiful, however.....Re-Sale on these Plummet's New these are 100K+ 3 to 4 years you Loos your " A" by 30 t0 50% Big OUCH! Service kills you as well...no secret these and FreaK'n Land Rovers have some of the worst reliability issues in general! SAD!
It would be great if they focussed a little more on overall durability, then resale will follow.
It's always mind boggling to me that people take their vehicle somewhere for an oil change when you can do it so easily yourself for sooo much cheaper.
Sometimes I am a bit busy and it fits.
It just keeps a documented service history. Which becomes important when you want to move it on.