I don't understand how she can say "you ruined my life". SHE is the one that ruined her own life with her crazy obsession. And more importantly the life of Heather.
@@mikeygraves16 I can see that, but I wouldn't consider that "just as responsible". At the end of the day she's the only one that can be responsible for her actions, and she habitually made bad decisions.
honestly i think this should be fine. every investigator and officer is going to have hundreds of relationships with people that could "bias" their investigation of the case. it's especially hard to control when the officers are going to be living in the same area that they protect/investigate. just like a judge simply has to be trusted to be impartial, i think the same should be done with investigators. the more important thing to prevent corruption is to have accountability if it is discovered that they were biased in the case.
@@ChipTheYoshi You're very naive and don't understand human nature. Even courts move certain cases to a different jurisdiction at times. The terms conflict of interest, corruption, bias, etc. weren't made up out of nothing.
I think the most disturbing thing about a lot of the stories on this channel is, many of the killers have people around them that seem perfectly willing to help plan and/or carry out murder. It blows my mind.
Couldn't agree more! If anybody tells me they're even considering the idea of murder, I'm telling the police everything right away! I'm not doing jail time for anyone...
Ugh. The way she breathily says "oh Greg" over and over sounds SO manipulative. Shauna isn't trying to "take advantage of Greg's lack of experience"... she's trying to use the only skill she has when dealing with men - exploit her femininity, act all vulnerable and helpless, and hope they'll pity and save her.
I thought the same thing. When she grabbed his hand. I feel like she was hoping he would be turned on and help her out. I called that she was going to grab his hand before she did it. I think it’s so funny how looking at peoples body language you can see there lies.
@@amityislandchum dude… she was definitely trying to subtly flirt with him. She knew she was catch. And she knew him personally. I bet he gave her the look a few times over the years of them knowing each other. And she knew it she knew he wanted to smash. And that was her last ditch effort to wiggle her way out of the mess she got her self in. So long story short I am projecting just a little. 😂
If my wife started an affair behind my back, and on top of it became pregnant with the kid of another married man TWICE, the “ultimatum” I would give would be to disappear forever from my and my kids’ life and to never cross my path again! How can you ever trust a partner that does THAT to you I will never understand…
Agreed! I'm shocked he kept taking her back and continuing such a terrible relationship. She clearly didn't love him. You don't do those things to someone you claim to love and shared vows with.
Let's not forget that when he pulled her over he still tried to protect her by taking the gun she used to murder and to hide it. He was eventually according to the video found guilty of doing this but then the charges were dropped. Note: he can still be guilty of hiding the gun as was determined and still have the charges dropped. No reason was given.
Yeah you're right there. For me cheating is THE game changer. All bets are off, we're done, don't let the door hit you on the way out. I don't know how you could ever repair that kind of broken trust. Rest in peace to Heather.. 💔
@@Jakal-pw8yqexactly, it shows a person's lack of morals, integrity and loyalty for them to cheat. Those are flawed character traits that I just cannot find attractive.
I feel terrible for Heather's family. I couldn't imagine all of the loss. Heather lost her mother and father, then she was murdered, and then her daughter dies in a car crash at the age of 17. Truly tragic.
That’s what I was thinking. Heather has a sister and she was absolutely devastated when she was interviewed by Paula Zahn years before Victoria died. I’m sure she’s crushed now.
And if I were a lawyer, I'd eat that up with a spoon...I'd be calling for a change of location...on this ground alone dismissal of her case could have by The State Supreme Court or even U.S. Supreme Court standards be tossed. Her hubby should have never stopped her in the capacity of an officer. That first act could be seen as a conflict of interest and be a potential reason for mistrial. He should have waited for backup or followed her until she could be stopped by another officer. All the way around your comment is 100% spot on. Nice observation.
Poor Heather. Got depressed by family loss, then her POS husband decided to cheat on her during probably the worst time of her life, which resulted in his mistress ending Heather's life, who even had the grace to forgive him and work on the relationship... of course Shawna is the one to blame for the murder, but I sure hope his decisions haunt him forever.
I blame him equally& wholely! He fully created the entire situation & then cried that Shauna was blackmailing him and forcing him to continue their affair! He was only afraid for himself, being caught, losing his double portion of cake and therefore, losing his home & family as well, that he wasn't loyal to so he abandoned them to go do the mcwild, but now, he doesn't want to part with what he abandoned when he discarded his promise? It's always about him, pssshhhh. He knew Shauna was manipulative & threatening his wife! What did he expect to result from cheating, lying, deceiving and hiding the truth from others who would suffer for his choices? Good? Desert? Another scoop of ice cream? Ya don't poke a grizzly bear and taunt it and then cry that the grizzly shouldn't have mauled you because you were innocently playing! Had that man really loved his wife he would have left her and divorced her and accepted his wrong. He wouldn't have risked his family & exposed them to any other the drama that results from cheating and disrespecting your family! That should have shamed him & he should have protected her from amy further shame. Even if he ended the affair with Shauna, he would have lived somewhere else, away from Heather and then any retaliation from Shauna would have been on him and only him! She had his child so........ But he didn't love & he selfishly did what he did, to hell with the consequences until........, he got caught! Then, he begged and cried for Heather's forgiveness, used her neglect from her depression to shift blame to her & leverage obligation as a basis for her to share the responsibility of his weakened state that caused him to break his convenant with her. He got her to take blame, then he continues to stay in the freaking house and subject her to his girlfriends phone harassment, even getting her to fight with the other woman by going to a lawyer to send her a cease order to stop contacting them and leave them alone! Signed by himself and his wife! So now he pitted his wife against his lover because he doesn't want her of the baby but he had already pitted his lover against his wife because she had him trapped or he used her awful neglect of his needs etc. Wow! He didn't move away from his family to protect them from retaliation, he created it and drug them through his drama and cohearsed their defending him against the woman he was sharing pillow talk with & complaining about his unfulfilling wife & telling Shauna that he needs everything she is giving him & how much better she is at this and that & how terrible HeAther is because she kseps him stuck in a sexless marriage and wtfever! He is with her in this affair for so long that he impregnates her twice! He has no balls to speak to her husband and her to arrange the care of the child that he selfishly brought under these feckery circumstances! Everybody was supposed to fight a war that he created and suffer any consequences that came of it, but, he wasn't going to lose anything as a result or pay for the child! Look who kept his son to raise as his own! That sorry p,o,s caused his wife's murder & rather than get his paternal rights, he blamed the child & sees that child as the reminder of his selfishness & his culpability! That's why he isn't taking care of his child and let's another man keep his 'left behind' unfinished & abandoned obigation! You hope this haunts him? You're silly & you're deceiving yourself because your concious would be haunted so you think his would. Well no. If he had a conscious, he wouldn't have broken his marriage covenant! When he impregnated the wife of another man, he wouldn't have continued and impregnated her a second time! If he had a conscious he would have admitted his wrong doing and divorced his wife and gave her everything. You know? A restitution for tresspaSsing against her! Someone that is truly sorry will volunteer their restitution & return 7x more & will not demand a thing because they are the tresspsswr that broke the contract and covenant! Cheaters that demand something are liars when they apologized. They said sorry to get something. He wouldn't have selfishly blamed everyone and increased their suffering so he could keep everything! He has no concious & he blames Shauna, just as you said, because she pulled the trigger. He sees himself as a victim and his daughter's death gives him more fuel to be a victim. He will react to his losses by nourishing his insatiable feelings! Ol boy will have a g f. believing nothing was his fault or he will play ignorant of the risks because he never thought, blah blah. But regardless, his child will be raised by the other man and he won't lose a nights sleep over his child just like he refused to lose anything for abandoning his marriage & family covenant! He didn't think about any possibility of jealous retaliation that could harm his wife because that would require him to sacrifice his comforts to ensure her well being! He only thought of himself. I hope that other man doesn't end up with bitterness and resentment and heap it all on that poor child. His attempt to cover up what she did tells on him! He is an emotional thinker that will try to control everyone and everything because he will not discipline his emotions. He reacts to them & nourishes their demands at all cost. He was willing to cover up her action of murder to keep his comfort! It was not to protect her! It was to protect him. He didn't want to be a single father or he would have been when she dot pregnant again with her lovers child! He was willing to tolerate her cheating so he wouldn't lose his comforted feelings! She good have sex with anyone as long as she gave him some and stayed there to help raise their kids! His comfort. So when his feelings of bitterness and resentment and suffering as a single father are out of control... hmmm....guess who he is going to look at and see daily as the reminder of his unfair sufferings? Guess who serves as a stand in for blame ? It isn't Shauna or Ig or Michelle! There's the reality. They each showed us who they are. You projecting your feelings on that) man will not make it so. That isn't who he showed you he was!🤔💯👌
@@thequieterubcomethemoreuhe1198 He wasn't getting a portion from his wife, so he looked for another outlet. It's just unfortunate that he chose a psycho.
@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadioFor you to be able to see coherence in such disgusting and evil acts you must look alike. Please don't get married if the most important thing to you is sex, it shows you're not a good catch. Get back to the streets and don't ruin anyone's life sweetie. ✌️
@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio No, it's wrong that he went looking for an affair instead of working things out with his wife or officially separating from her before looking elsewhere. It's not "unfortunate that he happened to choose a psycho". You don't just cheat because your life isn't perfect. There's no point in getting married if that's his philosophy.
The weirdest part of this is that no one is innocent. Ignacio kept up the affair, Michelle helped her plan a murder and Ken was helping her cover it up. Her crazy was contagious.
The narcissists prayer: That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, *YOU DESERVED IT.*
I think her plan was to set up her husband Ken for Heather's murder (wearing his clothes and driving his truck), then she and Ignacio could be together. She first messed up when she said "you ruined my life". I believe they would have found her out anyway, but she gave her voice away when she talked. Shawna and Ignacio created such a mess of everybody's lives around them.
Sounds like it could have been her plan, wow. She is EVIL !!!! But I wonder if the police would even believe he would do that for a second, he doesn't have a reason to even be mad at Heather? ;o So how did Shawna think that would work out?
I feel so bad for Ignacio's kids who lost their mother and would have to deal with so much anger towards their father I am sure. I am sure that knowing you have a half sibling who's mother was your mother's murderer would be distressing as well.
Imagine being that half sibling... they had better receive good mental coaching, because they are born with a massive burden then could do nothing about.
They wouldn't of known about half bro thou unless this happens it's always parents putting children thru this stuff can't keep it in their pants and look else where before thinking I'm gunna help my partner
The thing that proves she’s a crazy, unstable, dizzy, psychopath, is her saying “YOU ruined my life”. How do these disgusting women believe the WIFE is to blame, that they actively pursued HER husband?
To be accurate, Heathers actions started the entire ball rolling by failing to be intimate with her husband. If not for that, Ignacio would never have sought intimacy with Shawna and none of this would have happened.
I reckon he was in on it too, he lied, said he turned off the ute, which we found out it was still running when he walked away from the truck, he took the gun.
Disgusting attitude and 70 people agree with you. Sad world we live in where people place sex on such a high pedestal that people think a “cheater” is on the same level as a murderer
@@kirschrot77I don’t think you touched anything, but need to touch grass he played a part in the situation but not at all responsible for her actions. If that was the case heather should be “just as responsible” for staying with him, but you wouldn’t agree to that would you. Just a idiot
@@kirschrot77OK smartass, it's easy to be snarky, but I've cheated before. I'm not proud of it, but I did it. Are you going to try to convince me that what i did is 'just as bad' as pointing a gun to someone's head, getting them to kneel down, and execute them in broad daylight? That's a hill you're willing to die on? You don't see any difference between those things?
Or is an emotional wreck... I know if I'm being vulnerable and crying, if someone triggers me I can go through all the responses, fight, fight, fawn but every one of them emotional responses is real.
I used to cry like a faucet watching movies & stop the second a customer walked in. I've walked in on my grandmom crying & she played fine immediately. There was nobody there to "perform" for...
This woman is absolutely a performance artist. She's using tears during the interrogation to try and manipulate the situation, garner sympathy and get information. It's common for psychopaths like this to turn their emotions on and off. It's possible for people to hide their true emotions well, like other repliers said, but...this is not one of those situations. What a horrible trash bag of a human being.
For some reason the part during executing Heather when Shawna said "you ruined my life" disgusted me the most... insane someone can actually think like that! Like lady you banged her Husband, she didn't bang yours 😖😣
Shawna is narcissistic and entitled. Sadly there are a lot of psychopathic women out there who think that way and think they “own” some one just because of their own obsession.
Ignacio was a coward who should’ve been honest WAYYYYYYYYY earlier with Heather. I wish Heather had taken out a restraining order with those threatening messages…I cannot believe Heather’s ex raised Ignacio’s son as his own even after Hesther went to jail. All of this is a mess and a huge problem. Poor Heather. She was the only innocent one in it all
With all the incestuous fraternization taking place in this sheriff's dpt. this was surely the least biased they could manage. He was probably the only one qualified that hadn't fallen asleep on top of this cow.
It's not the kids' fault! Someone's gotta take them, who else but their dad? Why shit on Ken because he's a stand up guy? Other channels emphasize Ken's excellent character and the childrens' preference. I stepped up and became a single father after being wronged myself. I didn't have to but now my kid is glad I did. Guess you guys aren't like that.
Ignacio is as cowardly as a man can get. I hope he greatly suffers from the needless losses of his precious wife and daughter for the rest of his life. They deserved a better father and husband. Even Ken showed more loyalty to his psycho wife AND to Ignacio’s own child. This was a mess
Shawna knew exactly what she was doing. She was trying to manipulate Greg with the "I'm just a helpless scared woman," voice. Problem is, she doesn't look the part.
Especially when she held his hand. That was manipulation! When Michelle testified she directed her anger at Heather because she believed Heather talked Ignacio into staying with her. I guarantee you that's exactly what she believed! Because that's how she works, she will talk people into staying in her life too! Ignacio is a one example, her husband, I wonder how her children are? I bet she was a manipulative mother! That character flaw will be present in EVERY relationship!
He should have come clean way before 2 pregnancies. I don't buy his story. I think he wanted to continue the relationship. I bet he liked the attention he was getting from this crazy person.
@Charles S. Gorski Dreading is excellent. Another somewhat newer and less known channel is Just Thought Lounge. It's pretty great- well researched and well presented.
You said when Sharon & Michelle first met they instantly became "natural friends". They were much more than friends...I had to rewatch multiple times to figure out why Michelle was relevant :P
That should of been mentioned before the end, I seen another u tuber do this and they made it clear the women were in a relationship, damn that girl was sleeping with everyone.
Them having an actual sexual relationship is doubtful. Michelle had a bf at the time, and Shawna used this alleged affair to hint that Michelle was SO pissed at her for calling it off that she would frame Shawna for murder
because heather was depressed and didnt want to have sex. ignacio is an insane horn dog who doesnt give a fuck about his grieving wife and just wants to bust a nut regardless of who its in
He shouldn’t have but is wife was sick with lupus I believe, she didn’t sleep with him anymore because her health so he went off and found a Ho! A bad one at that
i can never wrap my mind around people do these things. do they honestly believe they're going to get away with it? how can they be so misguided to think its possible to take your husbands truck and go kill somebody and think you're going to get away with it???
That’s what always gets me. That people think they’re going to get away with it. If your odds are like 99 out of 100, isn’t that still too big of a chance?? I think they’re crazed
I think she was trying to make it look like her husband did it. She was driving his truck, wearing his clothes under the robe, etc. That way any evidence that may have gotten on the clothes would be on HIS things.
The ending just took my breath away. May all of the innocent victims of Shawna, Michelle and Ignacio find comfort, peace and happiness. Rest in paradise.
Actually Ken is completely innocent. God, you femmy-types just can't stand that he's not in prison - just remember, he didn't commit any crime, including murder, which the woman did. @@CatLady-be9tn
The way she casually said "You still need to do your job" made the hairs on my neck raise. She literally just executed a person in the coldest of blood! People this deranged are truly frightening.
Ignacio NEEDS to accept his role in all of this. “I stayed with her because i was afraid.”. “She tricked me into pregnancy TWICE.” He may not have pulled any triggers, but Heather would be alive today if he had either stayed faithful, or filed for divorce. shame on him.
He wasn't coerced into staying with her, he made the deliberate choice to stay because he's too cowardly to face up to his own consequences and too useless to look after himself as a divorced man. What a catch 🤮
@@exploitz0 oh, i’m not excusing the murderer. But he’s NOT a victim. He’s a step away from being an accomplice. Actions have consequences. Unfortunately, sometimes tragic ones to innocent people. Shawna is in prison. What are HIS consequences? Losing his beloved wife? His relationship with the murderer is WHY his wife is no longer alive.
How dare Heather fall into a deep depression after losing BOTH parents within a short period of time and ignore his cawk?! He should have been a better man and supported his wife in her time of need instead of thinking about his own needs.
If you really want certain people out of your life pack a couple suitcases, a backpack and carry on duffel bag with only the most important and/or needed belongings. For one to two hundred bucks you can hop on a Greyhound bus to a different state. Find a homeless shelter and start rebuilding your life. That beats the hell out of taking someone's life.
I left Florida and came to California, spent 5 years homeless. Soon after I got my section 8 my abusive family was doing interviews with cyberbullying RUclipsrs to tear me down and let the world know I didn't deserve the home i now had or the kindness of them had shown. I wake up every day now to someone telling me to end my life. No, sometimes you can never leave no matter how far you go, they will always be just ahead of you to stop any progress towards happiness The dream world is that you can just leave and start over. The real world, abusers won't let you go.
@@Adrasdea many people get away from abusers by doing this. You didn't. That doesn't mean it isn't an option for others. Having your name changed costs very little. You can start with that, then try changing up your look, and then disappearing.
@@SundayMourningLove many people also are in the position where leaving would do no good because they would be followed. My point is that saying just leave is easier than actually doing it. I tried, it's not possible to leave certain people because they won't allow it
This is the most detailed and best delivered narration of this infamous drama. Shawna is deeply jealous, ultimately insecure and so very weak. These are some of the most unfortunate (?) characteristics one can possibly have in jail. I don’t know about prison, but - unfortunately - I DO know a little something about jail, and I’m pretty sure she spent time there. I feel confident that she did experience some oh so well deserved long and terrifying nights while there. In jail. For some reason I can’t get tired of saying that. Good riddance SHAWNA.
When you cheat you think you are just being sneaky and deceiving your spouse but this story is a true testament of how many lives cheating and lying can be touched the reach of this affair will continue for generations. So sad
When you deny your husband sex for years you think you're just going through something but then you start to realize you're in a partnership where one of the main goals is intimacy and procreation and you're denying all that and creating an unnatural situation where you've got this man cut off from females and yet you give him nothing but still expect him to sit there waiting. That's the same thing as saying - to cheat. It's fine with me, I'm not having sex with you anyway. At that point just divorce. What are you doing? Making a man lose years off his life waiting in sexual purgatory? That's nonsense. Imagine working at a job that just stops paying you. How long until you're not faithful to the job anymore because what you agreed on isn't happening anymore? Most people can't even wait a few weeks. It's insulting and humiliating and against biology.
Cheating has become a new pastime, unfortunately, with women now far outpacing men. If one isn’t fully invested in their partner and family then they should simply leave. The better option is for them to never have children that will always be a lower priority to them than their lustful ambitions.
@@mischr13The other commenter is actually correct in that statistics around women cheating have risen drastically in the last couple decades. Men used to have us totally beat for numbers there, but women have caught up.
This woman is as wicked as Jezebel, watching her in court with such a haughty look of disdain towards the prosecutor was chilling, she has the heart of a viper.
i have BPD and its scary how much i understand her thought process. like that guy ignacio was definitely her favorite person, she thought they were meant to be and would do ANYTHING to make it happen. but he didn’t love her back the same way, and when that happens its the most heart-wrenching feeling in the world. especially when they keep choosing someone else over u. ive been there and it’s such an awful place to be. i was sobbing and self harming literally nonstop because the thought of not being with him was too much to handle, it felt like the world was ending and i had no control over it. the difference is i FOUND A THERAPIST and worked through that shit. i learned ways to identify my irrational thoughts, regulate my emotions and eventually i moved on. there’s no reason why she couldn’t have done that too. there’s really no excuse
I live in Greeley and work for a store that does uniforms and duty gear, as well as firearms, for over a hundred different departments and agencies. Lemme tell you, for some reason Greeley comes up a LOT in true crime. It’s a bit amusing, at this point. I think That Chapter has 3 videos, alone! 😅
Michelle got 9 years... I watched a case not long ago where a 15 year old got life for luring a teenager to his death. Michelle, being g a cop, should be held to a higher standard, shouldn't she?? As far as I'm concerned, she should have received life. She knew before hand that it was going to happen and could have stopped it.
Um, can we all just remember that Ignacio is no victim in this. He deserves to hold as much guilt and accountability for being the cheating partner in the first place. HE betrayed his wife... HE failed to protect her from the crazy woman he cheated with.. HE knew just how extreme Shauna was and should have assumed the worst and thus gone to all levels to protect his wife and himself... but he didn't. It takes two people to cheat, but Ignacio showed the initial lack of care towards Heather when he decided to cheat. RIP Heather. Should've been her husband in the ground. He seems like a total scumbag... "the child" - that's his own damn child. He tries to detach and act like he's been screwed over. She 'got pregnant twice on birth control' shows how he didn't learn the first time and put his urges first.
Haha yep! You must be a hard-core true crime watcher like me! I kinda start seeing the same people sometimes so I think the community is a smaller one 😊
I’ve seen this story but wanted to see what info this video showed. In the one I saw, Shawna was sleeping with a few other guys on the force, but she fell in love with Ignacio and wasn’t going to let him go...or stay with his wife. So sad and heinous
I just want to say thank you so much for putting out all these amazing true crime videos for all of us true crime buffs ❤ I just want you to know it’s much appreciated!
Maybe due to Christianity and Islam's views on forgiveness. I'm pretty sure Jesus and Allah would condone murder and rape and forgive people who have done these deeds. I'd even argue that the Rabbus, Pope, the Pastors, and the Imams are crime-lords hiding behind lofty titles.
Talk about bad luck . Heather endured so much . She lost her parents , then she was murdered by that psycho woman and then the 17 year old dies also . How tragic is this ? RIP Heather
😭 Her daughter was beautiful. I know my own daughter would have been that, beautiful had she made it to 17 yrs old 😭😭😭😭😭😢 and probably would have looked a lot like her. My daughters mother is Latina. And absolutely gorgeous. Our daughter was a beautiful baby. We always got stopped by like 50 different people anytime we went out, telling us how beautiful our baby was. It made me sooooo proud. 😭😢 She only made it to 22 months old
❤ it's never easy to bury our children. I'm sorry you experienced the trauma and loss of a child. My handsome and gentle son made it to 23 amazing years before he had a dirt biking accident. ❤ It's never enough time.
The sad thing is that if Ignacio actually left Heather for Shawna. I can guarantee she would have lost interest in him and got bored. She enjoyed the control and danger
That Killer’s husband may have had charges against him dropped for getting rid of the murder weapon, but surely was fired from the dept. He pissed away his career and pension. He was foolish enuf to take her back, but to cover her over a murder?! None of these ppl have a moral compass.
I feel sorry for Ken. It's shocking how much a manipulated man can do for a psychopathic wife. She cheated on him, but he gave her a second chance. She rejected the offer. After a while he still withdrew the divorce papers, and adopted HER LOVER'S child... And in the end she even tried to frame him for murder by dressing up as him!
He even helped her hide evidence. He didn't even get charged which was wild. I guess there's alot going on with this case, so much going on that they forgot to arrest and charge him. Life sure is complicated.
I'm so done with the wailing in the beginning. Gurl you went on a killing spree that's just weak and cowardly (gun, from behind) in YOUR HUSBAND'S CLOTHES. jesus. Then the audacity to cry and whine.
This is such a sad story. Shauna is a psychopath. However I feel like Ig didn’t help continuing with the affair. Poor suffered from what sounds like a serious depression after her family’s losses. If should have been more supportive and be there for his wife instead of feeling sorry for himself because he wasn’t getting any sex. This would never have happened if he remained faithful and supportive of his poor wife. He should have been there for Heather ‼️
Sex can be a very important side of life while a person is healthy. It was nice of him to respect his wife's years of being sexually unavailable. He took a side piece in order to not violate his wife's need for space. Unfortunately, he picked a psycho.
@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio I think he didn't need to involve another human being to get sex and cheat on his partner. He could have satisfied himself and then been there to support his life partner he chose through her struggles. Or else be honest, come to an agreement with his wife, and tell her what he was doing, maybe he could have paid escorts if he was desperate who would not treat him as more than a job. But another person is a person and is not an object to fulfil sexual or excitement needs so doing such things will always become complicated and hurtful when one already has a partner and want to keep more.
Exactly ! People acting like what he did was remotely ok cause "he needed sex 🥺" are insane , excusing his actions for no reason. He's a horrible person who couldn't even stand by his wife during her time of need cause he was too horny , if the roles were reversed and ignacio was a woman , none of these comments trying to excuse him would exist.
Ignacio continued to be intimate with Shawna even after she became "accidentally " pregnant the first time. Maybe breaking off the affair and relocating with his family then and there would have put a stop to all the tragic events that followed. Very Sad 😢
Woah I've been binging your videos for the last couple weeks when I get home from work and Greeley is my hometown. I just moved away from Colorado last year. I paused the video right when I saw Weld county, but I'm pumped for this one
The first thing... should have had an outside agency investigate and interrogate. Here in Canada, as soon as you can say "I know you", it's considered a conflict of interest. You must be removed from the process and an independent assigned. Judges too.
RIP to Heather and your beautiful daughter 🙏🕊️. In God's hands with your parents and child, you are no longer suffering. My deepest condolences for your remaining family and friends. God bless you all!
Ken is so pathetic. He tried to help his wife get away with murdering a man's wife so his wife can keep having her affair, while working to frame him for the murder by wearing his clothes.
My Mom used to say “end one relationship before you start another “. In this case if they would have done that perhaps everyone in this situation would have a different outcome. I don’t understand why the friend didn’t tell the police about the conversations she had. I would rather lose a friend & be nothing rather than serve 9 yrs in prison!
I don't understand how she can say "you ruined my life". SHE is the one that ruined her own life with her crazy obsession. And more importantly the life of Heather.
dont try to understand a narcissist.
He was just as responsible!
@Lowe Spring Acres how is that?
@@will-i-am386 I think they mean that Ignacio shares at least part of the blame for carrying on an affair with Shawna?
@@mikeygraves16 I can see that, but I wouldn't consider that "just as responsible". At the end of the day she's the only one that can be responsible for her actions, and she habitually made bad decisions.
Her own police department should not have handled this case.
Too much potential for corruption.
Ya think?!?!? Holy Shit!
I agree
Prejudice amongst friends.
honestly i think this should be fine. every investigator and officer is going to have hundreds of relationships with people that could "bias" their investigation of the case. it's especially hard to control when the officers are going to be living in the same area that they protect/investigate. just like a judge simply has to be trusted to be impartial, i think the same should be done with investigators. the more important thing to prevent corruption is to have accountability if it is discovered that they were biased in the case.
@@ChipTheYoshi You're very naive and don't understand human nature.
Even courts move certain cases to a different jurisdiction at times.
The terms conflict of interest, corruption, bias, etc. weren't made up out of nothing.
Shawna literally deliberately leaving a journal out for her husband to see is such a 1990's highschooler move
You know she's a monster after they found the kenny chesney cd
@@MeatMachine212lmao agree
@@MeatMachine212 🤣🤣🤣
thats right, she wanted him to see it
Shawna is as worthless and vile as they come. Idk what anyone would see in her
The daughter dying at 17 was the biggest gut punch to me 💔
Yeah, fosure!! First mother then daughter..so much for one family..
@@rollinstoned8447 I know, no wonder she was depressed. So sad.
Was really the depressing icing on the cake
Agree
Sins of the father....
I think the most disturbing thing about a lot of the stories on this channel is, many of the killers have people around them that seem perfectly willing to help plan and/or carry out murder. It blows my mind.
Couldn't agree more! If anybody tells me they're even considering the idea of murder, I'm telling the police everything right away! I'm not doing jail time for anyone...
Ugh. The way she breathily says "oh Greg" over and over sounds SO manipulative. Shauna isn't trying to "take advantage of Greg's lack of experience"... she's trying to use the only skill she has when dealing with men - exploit her femininity, act all vulnerable and helpless, and hope they'll pity and save her.
I thought the same thing. When she grabbed his hand. I feel like she was hoping he would be turned on and help her out. I called that she was going to grab his hand before she did it. I think it’s so funny how looking at peoples body language you can see there lies.
Her attempt is sickening and pathetic.
I know ... Horrible trait if used in this way... I like the way you expanded it lol... Breathily says , oh greg' ' 😅
👏👏👏👏 spot on!!!! Can't even add anything.
@@amityislandchum dude… she was definitely trying to subtly flirt with him. She knew she was catch. And she knew him personally. I bet he gave her the look a few times over the years of them knowing each other. And she knew it she knew he wanted to smash. And that was her last ditch effort to wiggle her way out of the mess she got her self in. So long story short I am projecting just a little. 😂
If my wife started an affair behind my back, and on top of it became pregnant with the kid of another married man TWICE, the “ultimatum” I would give would be to disappear forever from my and my kids’ life and to never cross my path again!
How can you ever trust a partner that does THAT to you I will never understand…
Well said
Agreed! I'm shocked he kept taking her back and continuing such a terrible relationship. She clearly didn't love him. You don't do those things to someone you claim to love and shared vows with.
Let's not forget that when he pulled her over he still tried to protect her by taking the gun she used to murder and to hide it. He was eventually according to the video found guilty of doing this but then the charges were dropped. Note: he can still be guilty of hiding the gun as was determined and still have the charges dropped. No reason was given.
Yeah you're right there. For me cheating is THE game changer. All bets are off, we're done, don't let the door hit you on the way out. I don't know how you could ever repair that kind of broken trust. Rest in peace to Heather.. 💔
@@Jakal-pw8yqexactly, it shows a person's lack of morals, integrity and loyalty for them to cheat. Those are flawed character traits that I just cannot find attractive.
I feel terrible for Heather's family. I couldn't imagine all of the loss. Heather lost her mother and father, then she was murdered, and then her daughter dies in a car crash at the age of 17. Truly tragic.
Whoa wow !
And her husband. Poor guy
Good heavens!
Kharma
That’s what I was thinking. Heather has a sister and she was absolutely devastated when she was interviewed by Paula Zahn years before Victoria died. I’m sure she’s crushed now.
It seems ethically sketchy that the police department she's sleeping with ran the investigation.
Agreed. Should have gone to the State Police.
Yes, I said wait to myself during the questioning. Sketchimuss maximuss.
Police love to be ethically sketchy.
And if I were a lawyer, I'd eat that up with a spoon...I'd be calling for a change of location...on this ground alone dismissal of her case could have by The State Supreme Court or even U.S. Supreme Court standards be tossed. Her hubby should have never stopped her in the capacity of an officer. That first act could be seen as a conflict of interest and be a potential reason for mistrial. He should have waited for backup or followed her until she could be stopped by another officer. All the way around your comment is 100% spot on. Nice observation.
@@superflygirl That's a gross exaggeration. Proof?
Poor Heather. Got depressed by family loss, then her POS husband decided to cheat on her during probably the worst time of her life, which resulted in his mistress ending Heather's life, who even had the grace to forgive him and work on the relationship... of course Shawna is the one to blame for the murder, but I sure hope his decisions haunt him forever.
I blame him equally& wholely! He fully created the entire situation & then cried that Shauna was blackmailing him and forcing him to continue their affair!
He was only afraid for himself, being caught, losing his double portion of cake and therefore, losing his home & family as well, that he wasn't loyal to so he abandoned them to go do the mcwild, but now, he doesn't want to part with what he abandoned when he discarded his promise? It's always about him, pssshhhh.
He knew Shauna was manipulative & threatening his wife!
What did he expect to result from cheating, lying, deceiving and hiding the truth from others who would suffer for his choices? Good? Desert? Another scoop of ice cream?
Ya don't poke a grizzly bear and taunt it and then cry that the grizzly shouldn't have mauled you because you were innocently playing!
Had that man really loved his wife he would have left her and divorced her and accepted his wrong. He wouldn't have risked his family & exposed them to any other the drama that results from cheating and disrespecting your family! That should have shamed him & he should have protected her from amy further shame. Even if he ended the affair with Shauna, he would have lived somewhere else, away from Heather and then any retaliation from Shauna would have been on him and only him! She had his child so........
But he didn't love & he selfishly did what he did, to hell with the consequences until........, he got caught! Then, he begged and cried for Heather's forgiveness, used her neglect from her depression to shift blame to her & leverage obligation as a basis for her to share the responsibility of his weakened state that caused him to break his convenant with her. He got her to take blame, then he continues to stay in the freaking house and subject her to his girlfriends phone harassment, even getting her to fight with the other woman by going to a lawyer to send her a cease order to stop contacting them and leave them alone! Signed by himself and his wife! So now he pitted his wife against his lover because he doesn't want her of the baby but he had already pitted his lover against his wife because she had him trapped or he used her awful neglect of his needs etc.
Wow! He didn't move away from his family to protect them from retaliation, he created it and drug them through his drama and cohearsed their defending him against the woman he was sharing pillow talk with & complaining about his unfulfilling wife & telling Shauna that he needs everything she is giving him & how much better she is at this and that & how terrible HeAther is because she kseps him stuck in a sexless marriage and wtfever!
He is with her in this affair for so long that he impregnates her twice!
He has no balls to speak to her husband and her to arrange the care of the child that he selfishly brought under these feckery circumstances!
Everybody was supposed to fight a war that he created and suffer any consequences that came of it, but, he wasn't going to lose anything as a result or pay for the child!
Look who kept his son to raise as his own!
That sorry p,o,s caused his wife's murder & rather than get his paternal rights, he blamed the child & sees that child as the reminder of his selfishness & his culpability! That's why he isn't taking care of his child and let's another man keep his 'left behind' unfinished & abandoned obigation!
You hope this haunts him? You're silly & you're deceiving yourself because your concious would be haunted so you think his would. Well no. If he had a conscious, he wouldn't have broken his marriage covenant! When he impregnated the wife of another man, he wouldn't have continued and impregnated her a second time! If he had a conscious he would have admitted his wrong doing and divorced his wife and gave her everything. You know? A restitution for tresspaSsing against her! Someone that is truly sorry will volunteer their restitution & return 7x more & will not demand a thing because they are the tresspsswr that
broke the contract and covenant! Cheaters that demand something are liars when they apologized. They said sorry to get something.
He wouldn't have selfishly blamed everyone and increased their suffering so he could keep everything!
He has no concious & he blames Shauna, just as you said, because she pulled the trigger.
He sees himself as a victim and his daughter's death gives him more fuel to be a victim.
He will react to his losses by nourishing his insatiable feelings! Ol boy will have a g f. believing nothing was his fault or he will play ignorant of the risks because he never thought, blah blah. But regardless, his child will be raised by the other man and he won't lose a nights sleep over his child just like he refused to lose anything for abandoning his marriage & family covenant! He didn't think about any possibility of jealous retaliation that could harm his wife because that would require him to sacrifice his comforts to ensure her well being! He only thought of himself.
I hope that other man doesn't end up with bitterness and resentment and heap it all on that poor child. His attempt to cover up what she did tells on him! He is an emotional thinker that will try to control everyone and everything because he will not discipline his emotions. He reacts to them & nourishes their demands at all cost. He was willing to cover up her action of murder to keep his comfort! It was not to protect her! It was to protect him. He didn't want to be a single father or he would have been when she dot pregnant again with her lovers child! He was willing to tolerate her cheating so he wouldn't lose his comforted feelings! She good have sex with anyone as long as she gave him some and stayed there to help raise their kids! His comfort.
So when his feelings of bitterness and resentment and suffering as a single father are out of control... hmmm....guess who he is going to look at and see daily as the reminder of his unfair sufferings? Guess who serves as a stand in for blame ? It isn't Shauna or Ig or Michelle!
There's the reality. They each showed us who they are. You projecting your feelings on that) man will not make it so. That isn't who he showed you he was!🤔💯👌
@@thequieterubcomethemoreuhe1198 Damn.
@@thequieterubcomethemoreuhe1198 He wasn't getting a portion from his wife, so he looked for another outlet. It's just unfortunate that he chose a psycho.
@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadioFor you to be able to see coherence in such disgusting and evil acts you must look alike. Please don't get married if the most important thing to you is sex, it shows you're not a good catch. Get back to the streets and don't ruin anyone's life sweetie. ✌️
@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio No, it's wrong that he went looking for an affair instead of working things out with his wife or officially separating from her before looking elsewhere. It's not "unfortunate that he happened to choose a psycho". You don't just cheat because your life isn't perfect. There's no point in getting married if that's his philosophy.
The weirdest part of this is that no one is innocent. Ignacio kept up the affair, Michelle helped her plan a murder and Ken was helping her cover it up. Her crazy was contagious.
Right they all ended that woman life for no reason..
They didn't catch it from her. All cops (most at best) will cover each other even for murder. Scumbag majority rules.
17:45 Ignacio speaks of his baby like... it's... a thing, it's really bizarre. And really sad.
Heather and Victoria are/were innocent.
@@Robin_Coffins He was practically raped to have the child. I wouldn't call it my own either.
The narcissists prayer:
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, *YOU DESERVED IT.*
Donald Dump’s creed to a T!
@@allisonjames2923I can't believe how delusional people still chose to be after living under our administration now.
Ooh I've never heard that before. I can't imagine a narcissist actually saying a prayer, "but if they did, this one is spot on.".....lol
Facts 💯 😂
The thing is, too, they say this to convince other people instead of themselves! Truly gross people
I think her plan was to set up her husband Ken for Heather's murder (wearing his clothes and driving his truck), then she and Ignacio could be together. She first messed up when she said "you ruined my life". I believe they would have found her out anyway, but she gave her voice away when she talked. Shawna and Ignacio created such a mess of everybody's lives around them.
I think you are right 👍
I never thought of that before. Could be true!
Sounds like it could have been her plan, wow. She is EVIL !!!!
But I wonder if the police would even believe he would do that for a second, he doesn't have a reason to even be mad at Heather? ;o So how did Shawna think that would work out?
Good call.
Seeing as how he was on duty at the time he had a pretty good alibi.
I feel so bad for Ignacio's kids who lost their mother and would have to deal with so much anger towards their father I am sure. I am sure that knowing you have a half sibling who's mother was your mother's murderer would be distressing as well.
Imagine being that half sibling... they had better receive good mental coaching, because they are born with a massive burden then could do nothing about.
His daughter died at 17 in a accident, very sad.
@@tracyshaffer4510 tragic, some ppl get a shit lot in life..the whole thing is hard..
They wouldn't of known about half bro thou unless this happens it's always parents putting children thru this stuff can't keep it in their pants and look else where before thinking I'm gunna help my partner
My heart goes out to the innocent children involved in all of this. ❤️
The thing that proves she’s a crazy, unstable, dizzy, psychopath, is her saying “YOU ruined my life”. How do these disgusting women believe the WIFE is to blame, that they actively pursued HER husband?
It's arrogance. Plain as simple with people like her.
Borderline Personality Disordered ( not psychopath)
And the stalking and taunting behavior towards Heather. Normal people don't do that.
@@ZenOfMKVLIborderlines can have ASPD…
Heather & the kids were literally the only victims in this whole story 😢
Right
Lol not her husband? Wtf is wrong with you? Ooooh woman amd children!!! 😢😢
Agree 10000%
To be accurate, Heathers actions started the entire ball rolling by failing to be intimate with her husband. If not for that, Ignacio would never have sought intimacy with Shawna and none of this would have happened.
@@Strlrd1023 You seem to be ...insane
She ruined HER OWN life. Typical, no accountability, and quickly turns on the tears and plays the victim when things don't go her way.
Tears for getting caught ofc, no tears for Heather. A real pos human.
Borderline Personality Disordered
Imagine pulling over your wife wearing your clothes even underwear! RIP Heather.
he was in on it.
I wear my late fiance's boxers all the time, lol So comfy haha 😅😅😅
I reckon he was in on it too, he lied, said he turned off the ute, which we found out it was still running when he walked away from the truck, he took the gun.
devastating
And then him disposing of the murder weapon.
Poor Heather was surrounded by idiots, psychopaths and monsters, that husband of hers is just a guilty in her murder
Disgusting attitude and 70 people agree with you. Sad world we live in where people place sex on such a high pedestal that people think a “cheater” is on the same level as a murderer
@@kiranmkota Touched a nerve, Kiran?
@@kirschrot77I don’t think you touched anything, but need to touch grass he played a part in the situation but not at all responsible for her actions. If that was the case heather should be “just as responsible” for staying with him, but you wouldn’t agree to that would you. Just a idiot
@@themacdaddy1749facts 😭😭 they all stupid for staying with each other
@@kirschrot77OK smartass, it's easy to be snarky, but I've cheated before. I'm not proud of it, but I did it. Are you going to try to convince me that what i did is 'just as bad' as pointing a gun to someone's head, getting them to kneel down, and execute them in broad daylight? That's a hill you're willing to die on? You don't see any difference between those things?
These are the people being paid to protect us. RIP Heather. You deserved so much better.
True Detective drama, affairs etc.
I appreciate your no nonsense approach to the story. No unnecessary sensationalism. Just the facts. Good job.
How in the hell was ken not charged?He removed the gun and had it or disposed of it while the police he works for are looking for it!!
I will agree with that.
Male privilege. (Sorry just mocking the MRAs 🤣)
He is white
Wtf does she have on him he will let her literally do anything like cheat, have others babies, kill innocent people n rape the gun like wtfff?,!
@@ragepig1059😂😂😂
Anyone who starts crying, then sounds perfectly normal a minute later with no stuffy nose is a performance artist.
Or is an emotional wreck... I know if I'm being vulnerable and crying, if someone triggers me I can go through all the responses, fight, fight, fawn but every one of them emotional responses is real.
I used to cry like a faucet watching movies & stop the second a customer walked in. I've walked in on my grandmom crying & she played fine immediately. There was nobody there to "perform" for...
This is not true. Stop misleading people
This woman is absolutely a performance artist. She's using tears during the interrogation to try and manipulate the situation, garner sympathy and get information. It's common for psychopaths like this to turn their emotions on and off. It's possible for people to hide their true emotions well, like other repliers said, but...this is not one of those situations. What a horrible trash bag of a human being.
@@cowoverthemooI bet you’re an amazing performer
For some reason the part during executing Heather when Shawna said "you ruined my life" disgusted me the most... insane someone can actually think like that! Like lady you banged her Husband, she didn't bang yours 😖😣
Shawna is narcissistic and entitled.
Sadly there are a lot of psychopathic women out there who think that way and think they “own” some one just because of their own obsession.
Psychological Projection
This chick has BPD
Same as in Fatal Attraction
Ignacio was a coward who should’ve been honest WAYYYYYYYYY earlier with Heather. I wish Heather had taken out a restraining order with those threatening messages…I cannot believe Heather’s ex raised Ignacio’s son as his own even after Hesther went to jail. All of this is a mess and a huge problem. Poor Heather. She was the only innocent one in it all
A piece of paper won’t stop a bullet 😮
Heathers ex?
Restraining orders don’t stop bullets
The height of narcissism. Unbelievable evil.
Well said
Is this not a conflict of interest, having an interrogator that knows the person they're interrogating?
She couldn't technically be interrogated by another dept. The same thing happened with Stephanie Lazarus.
Maybe not COI, but definitely biased
Small town joke
With all the incestuous fraternization taking place in this sheriff's dpt. this was surely the least biased they could manage. He was probably the only one qualified that hadn't fallen asleep on top of this cow.
I mean, it did work out well in the Stephanie Lazarus case, but it's definitely not something you see often.
You call what Ken did kind and mature? I called that dumb and dumber. This whole situation is a giant shitshow
Exactly 10000%
Dude you're insulting a man is currently raising a child that isn't even his. Because of Ken that child has a father. Ignacio is the real dummy here,
I thought the same thing.
Yeah offering to raise your cheating wife’s lovechild is more self-abasement than “maturity”. Geez Louise.
It's not the kids' fault! Someone's gotta take them, who else but their dad? Why shit on Ken because he's a stand up guy? Other channels emphasize Ken's excellent character and the childrens' preference.
I stepped up and became a single father after being wronged myself. I didn't have to but now my kid is glad I did. Guess you guys aren't like that.
Ignacio is as cowardly as a man can get. I hope he greatly suffers from the needless losses of his precious wife and daughter for the rest of his life. They deserved a better father and husband. Even Ken showed more loyalty to his psycho wife AND to Ignacio’s own child. This was a mess
Shawna knew exactly what she was doing. She was trying to manipulate Greg with the "I'm just a helpless scared woman," voice. Problem is, she doesn't look the part.
Rumor has it she slept with Greg too!🤣🤣
I agree; she barely looks like a woman.
Some men don't care about looks as long as she possesses the ability to smile like a donut.
@@leadboots72
Nice name BTW, lol.
Especially when she held his hand. That was manipulation!
When Michelle testified she directed her anger at Heather because she believed Heather talked Ignacio into staying with her.
I guarantee you that's exactly what she believed! Because that's how she works, she will talk people into staying in her life too! Ignacio is a one example, her husband, I wonder how her children are? I bet she was a manipulative mother! That character flaw will be present in EVERY relationship!
What a catch! Heather went through the worst time of her life and her husband goes and makes it even worse with this Psycho👿
He should have come clean way before 2 pregnancies. I don't buy his story. I think he wanted to continue the relationship. I bet he liked the attention he was getting from this crazy person.
@@Funnyandsunnydays yes, i agree!
And yet he committed no crime, no trial, no time. And she is in prison for murder, forever.
@@rodman0088 oh yes, you’re right. He didn’t. And Psycho is where she belongs. I feel for Heather, that’s all.
Your channel and EWU's channel are the closest to fill my jcs void. Much appreciated 🙏
Check out Dreading too, another great channel
JCS is posting again.
@@ReSearcherSusie they’re just posting old butchered content
JCS is overrated now, so many better channels out there
@Charles S. Gorski Dreading is excellent. Another somewhat newer and less known channel is Just Thought Lounge. It's pretty great- well researched and well presented.
You said when Sharon & Michelle first met they instantly became "natural friends". They were much more than friends...I had to rewatch multiple times to figure out why Michelle was relevant :P
Yeah, it felt like a big chunk of the plot was missing. The sudden reveal of an affair between the 2 women was so abrupt.
That should of been mentioned before the end, I seen another u tuber do this and they made it clear the women were in a relationship, damn that girl was sleeping with everyone.
Lol same! 😂
Michelle is too pretty for Shawna.
Them having an actual sexual relationship is doubtful. Michelle had a bf at the time, and Shawna used this alleged affair to hint that Michelle was SO pissed at her for calling it off that she would frame Shawna for murder
It wasn't about Ignacio. It was about him not choosing her.
It was about another woman "getting" to control Ignacio
if he didn't want to leave the wife he shouldn't have cheated on her...
@@QwertyQwerty-eq7th that too.
A person with narcissistic tendencies who wants to be the "winner"
Why would Ignacio cheat on beautiful Heather with the complete woof psycho
because heather was depressed and didnt want to have sex. ignacio is an insane horn dog who doesnt give a fuck about his grieving wife and just wants to bust a nut regardless of who its in
He shouldn’t have but is wife was sick with lupus I believe, she didn’t sleep with him anymore because her health so he went off and found a Ho! A bad one at that
I came here to say this! He definitely downgraded with his mistress. Woof is 100% accurate!
Willingness sometimes trumps physical attractiveness.
Because penis.
Smh the fact that she was going to frame her own husband is sick🤦🏽♀️she is a vile person
i can never wrap my mind around people do these things. do they honestly believe they're going to get away with it? how can they be so misguided to think its possible to take your husbands truck and go kill somebody and think you're going to get away with it???
That’s what always gets me. That people think they’re going to get away with it. If your odds are like 99 out of 100, isn’t that still too big of a chance?? I think they’re crazed
I think she was trying to make it look like her husband did it. She was driving his truck, wearing his clothes under the robe, etc. That way any evidence that may have gotten on the clothes would be on HIS things.
I think that she thought it was worth it even if she got caught. She hated Heather and wanted to hurt the man that chose his wife over her. Sick
The ending just took my breath away. May all of the innocent victims of Shawna, Michelle and Ignacio find comfort, peace and happiness. Rest in paradise.
And Ken
Ken isn't innocent either.
Actually Ken is completely innocent. God, you femmy-types just can't stand that he's not in prison - just remember, he didn't commit any crime, including murder, which the woman did. @@CatLady-be9tn
And Ignacio looks like a complete...... Middle aged balding Dilbert. He looks like a Dilbert character.
The way she casually said "You still need to do your job" made the hairs on my neck raise. She literally just executed a person in the coldest of blood! People this deranged are truly frightening.
Ignacio NEEDS to accept his role in all of this. “I stayed with her because i was afraid.”. “She tricked me into pregnancy TWICE.”
He may not have pulled any triggers, but Heather would be alive today if he had either stayed faithful, or filed for divorce. shame on him.
Not only is he evil but he's a coward to the Core.
He wasn't coerced into staying with her, he made the deliberate choice to stay because he's too cowardly to face up to his own consequences and too useless to look after himself as a divorced man. What a catch 🤮
I mean I guess he may be a shit bag but shawna is clearly deranged.
@@exploitz0 oh, i’m not excusing the murderer. But he’s NOT a victim. He’s a step away from being an accomplice. Actions have consequences. Unfortunately, sometimes tragic ones to innocent people.
Shawna is in prison. What are HIS consequences? Losing his beloved wife? His relationship with the murderer is WHY his wife is no longer alive.
How dare Heather fall into a deep depression after losing BOTH parents within a short period of time and ignore his cawk?! He should have been a better man and supported his wife in her time of need instead of thinking about his own needs.
If you really want certain people out of your life pack a couple suitcases, a backpack and carry on duffel bag with only the most important and/or needed belongings. For one to two hundred bucks you can hop on a Greyhound bus to a different state. Find a homeless shelter and start rebuilding your life.
That beats the hell out of taking someone's life.
Or just move, find a place first. Def not a homeless shelter.
@@truth4004 I was thinking about people who may be slim financially. Not everyone can afford to just move.
I left Florida and came to California, spent 5 years homeless.
Soon after I got my section 8 my abusive family was doing interviews with cyberbullying RUclipsrs to tear me down and let the world know I didn't deserve the home i now had or the kindness of them had shown.
I wake up every day now to someone telling me to end my life.
No, sometimes you can never leave no matter how far you go, they will always be just ahead of you to stop any progress towards happiness
The dream world is that you can just leave and start over.
The real world, abusers won't let you go.
@@Adrasdea many people get away from abusers by doing this. You didn't. That doesn't mean it isn't an option for others. Having your name changed costs very little. You can start with that, then try changing up your look, and then disappearing.
@@SundayMourningLove many people also are in the position where leaving would do no good because they would be followed.
My point is that saying just leave is easier than actually doing it.
I tried, it's not possible to leave certain people because they won't allow it
God forbid a WOMAN TALK HER OWN HUSBAND INTO STAYING IN THE MARRIAGE. All of those POS killed her in their own way. Ridiculous. RIDICULOUS!!!!
Right, some ppl have the worst luck my god. Heather went through a lot & her husband did nothing to stop the pain smh he was horrible
No story ends well when it starts out with “ I had gone to the liquor store “…..
I don't drink and this story is sad but that is some funny shit you said because it's so true
Key word, Had.
This is the most detailed and best delivered narration of this infamous drama. Shawna is deeply jealous, ultimately insecure and so very weak. These are some of the most unfortunate (?) characteristics one can possibly have in jail. I don’t know about prison, but - unfortunately - I DO know a little something about jail, and I’m pretty sure she spent time there. I feel confident that she did experience some oh so well deserved long and terrifying nights while there. In jail. For some reason I can’t get tired of saying that. Good riddance SHAWNA.
When you cheat you think you are just being sneaky and deceiving your spouse but this story is a true testament of how many lives cheating and lying can be touched the reach of this affair will continue for generations. So sad
When you deny your husband sex for years you think you're just going through something but then you start to realize you're in a partnership where one of the main goals is intimacy and procreation and you're denying all that and creating an unnatural situation where you've got this man cut off from females and yet you give him nothing but still expect him to sit there waiting.
That's the same thing as saying - to cheat. It's fine with me, I'm not having sex with you anyway.
At that point just divorce. What are you doing? Making a man lose years off his life waiting in sexual purgatory? That's nonsense.
Imagine working at a job that just stops paying you. How long until you're not faithful to the job anymore because what you agreed on isn't happening anymore?
Most people can't even wait a few weeks. It's insulting and humiliating and against biology.
shawna is a terrible person I am puzzled how she was rewarded custody after cheating so much
Cheating has become a new pastime, unfortunately, with women now far outpacing men. If one isn’t fully invested in their partner and family then they should simply leave. The better option is for them to never have children that will always be a lower priority to them than their lustful ambitions.
@@anhedonianepiphany5588 uh, it's not new. check out all of human history
@@mischr13 Uh, the massive scale of it is _absolutely_ a new phenomenon.
@@anhedonianepiphany5588 Men are more likely to cheat (20% of married men; 13% of married women)
@@mischr13The other commenter is actually correct in that statistics around women cheating have risen drastically in the last couple decades. Men used to have us totally beat for numbers there, but women have caught up.
Shawna is so ridiculous.
So is her husband. & Ig too…
How you let another man raise your son is beyond me may heather her mom dad & daughter Rest In Peace This was truly heartbreaking 💔 😢🙏
This woman is as wicked as Jezebel, watching her in court with such a haughty look of disdain towards the prosecutor was chilling, she has the heart of a viper.
Alright we get it you’re smart, relax.
i have BPD and its scary how much i understand her thought process. like that guy ignacio was definitely her favorite person, she thought they were meant to be and would do ANYTHING to make it happen. but he didn’t love her back the same way, and when that happens its the most heart-wrenching feeling in the world. especially when they keep choosing someone else over u. ive been there and it’s such an awful place to be. i was sobbing and self harming literally nonstop because the thought of not being with him was too much to handle, it felt like the world was ending and i had no control over it. the difference is i FOUND A THERAPIST and worked through that shit. i learned ways to identify my irrational thoughts, regulate my emotions and eventually i moved on. there’s no reason why she couldn’t have done that too. there’s really no excuse
I live in Greeley and work for a store that does uniforms and duty gear, as well as firearms, for over a hundred different departments and agencies. Lemme tell you, for some reason Greeley comes up a LOT in true crime. It’s a bit amusing, at this point. I think That Chapter has 3 videos, alone! 😅
The state on Mike's show most often is of course Florida. Let's give it a go!😁
@NWIC Consultants that's my State yep real pride 😆
The daughter dying at the end was too much. It came out of nowhere and it actually broke my heart 😢
Michelle got 9 years... I watched a case not long ago where a 15 year old got life for luring a teenager to his death. Michelle, being g a cop, should be held to a higher standard, shouldn't she?? As far as I'm concerned, she should have received life. She knew before hand that it was going to happen and could have stopped it.
I always am dumbfounded that people who murder think they will get away with it
Um, can we all just remember that Ignacio is no victim in this. He deserves to hold as much guilt and accountability for being the cheating partner in the first place. HE betrayed his wife... HE failed to protect her from the crazy woman he cheated with.. HE knew just how extreme Shauna was and should have assumed the worst and thus gone to all levels to protect his wife and himself... but he didn't. It takes two people to cheat, but Ignacio showed the initial lack of care towards Heather when he decided to cheat. RIP Heather. Should've been her husband in the ground. He seems like a total scumbag... "the child" - that's his own damn child. He tries to detach and act like he's been screwed over. She 'got pregnant twice on birth control' shows how he didn't learn the first time and put his urges first.
I agree Ogg is no victim. Though he didn't kill his wife physically his actions brought all this harm and Chaos to his home.
🎯 well said.
AGREED!
Cheating is not a crime or illegal in US. So keep your emotional stupidity to yourself.
Definatly no victim, but no murderer either
This case was not about being a cheater, it was about murder
Which is a billion times worse than cheating
Yay! I ❤️ when my favorite channel uploads!
PS I think I need a chart for all involved on this one! This was a confusing one!
Hey I saw you in that other channel lol the shady one tt or Tom tardy lol
Haha yep! You must be a hard-core true crime watcher like me! I kinda start seeing the same people sometimes so I think the community is a smaller one 😊
Unbelievable. He helped his wife get away with murder with no punishment
Police officers don't get punished..... didn't you know ?
@@li5322 i guess officers cleaning things up for their loved ones is a right enforced by our legal system
Well she didn't get away and I believe there was a lack of evidence to prove his involvement.
She got away with it? How so? She was found guilty and is in prison...
It's his wife, who he loves.
Whatever I'm doing during the day gets put on hold immediately when Stay Awake posts a new video 😁
So sad especially the daughter who also lost her life
Right, I said the same thing.
I’ve seen this story but wanted to see what info this video showed. In the one I saw, Shawna was sleeping with a few other guys on the force, but she fell in love with Ignacio and wasn’t going to let him go...or stay with his wife. So sad and heinous
She had a boyfriend and a girlfriend.
I just want to say thank you so much for putting out all these amazing true crime videos for all of us true crime buffs ❤ I just want you to know it’s much appreciated!
My pleasure! Thank you for watching! :)
@@STAYAWAKEvids also, I just wanted to say how happy I am to see how rapidly the channel is growing 😉👏🏼
Sad...I'm just always amazed at how these killers ever think they will get away with murder.
Maybe due to Christianity and Islam's views on forgiveness. I'm pretty sure Jesus and Allah would condone murder and rape and forgive people who have done these deeds.
I'd even argue that the Rabbus, Pope, the Pastors, and the Imams are crime-lords hiding behind lofty titles.
Talk about bad luck . Heather endured so much . She lost her parents , then she was murdered by that psycho woman and then the 17 year old dies also . How tragic is this ? RIP Heather
Great channel, dude. Way better than I thought it would be. Also you're a really good narrator. Keep up the good work! You're doing everything right.
😭 Her daughter was beautiful. I know my own daughter would have been that, beautiful had she made it to 17 yrs old 😭😭😭😭😭😢 and probably would have looked a lot like her. My daughters mother is Latina. And absolutely gorgeous. Our daughter was a beautiful baby. We always got stopped by like 50 different people anytime we went out, telling us how beautiful our baby was. It made me sooooo proud. 😭😢
She only made it to 22 months old
I'm so very sorry J C.
❤ it's never easy to bury our children. I'm sorry you experienced the trauma and loss of a child.
My handsome and gentle son made it to 23 amazing years before he had a dirt biking accident. ❤
It's never enough time.
I’m so sorry ❤
💕
The sad thing is that if Ignacio actually left Heather for Shawna. I can guarantee she would have lost interest in him and got bored. She enjoyed the control and danger
Victoria dying and being buried with her mother Heather compounds the preventable tragedy in this case.
That Killer’s husband may have had charges against him dropped for getting rid of the murder weapon, but surely was fired from the dept. He pissed away his career and pension. He was foolish enuf to take her back, but to cover her over a murder?! None of these ppl have a moral compass.
"Want to talk?"
"No! Lawyer!"
How hard is that?
Thank you for a case I’ve never heard of , love your videos my friend
You’ve got a good channel here, keep true crime coming.
Thank you for bringing this crime story to us in a great way , I appreciate you great work put int your videos .❤️🙏🇨🇦
Usually, when you give more chances to people like this "Shawna", they get used for more damage to others.
I feel sorry for Ken. It's shocking how much a manipulated man can do for a psychopathic wife. She cheated on him, but he gave her a second chance. She rejected the offer. After a while he still withdrew the divorce papers, and adopted HER LOVER'S child... And in the end she even tried to frame him for murder by dressing up as him!
He even helped her hide evidence. He didn't even get charged which was wild. I guess there's alot going on with this case, so much going on that they forgot to arrest and charge him. Life sure is complicated.
Sometimes I worry that I’m not a good person. Then I watch one of these videos and realize that I’m virtually a saint.
It is to NEVER make new friends because you do not know who people REALLY are.
Exactly 💯
That guilt trip email she sent Ignacio the week before the murder was a real doosie
Love your channel. Can’t wait to watch ❤
9:31 - she went from teary-eyed sniffles to completely normal in two sentences.
I'm so done with the wailing in the beginning. Gurl you went on a killing spree that's just weak and cowardly (gun, from behind) in YOUR HUSBAND'S CLOTHES. jesus. Then the audacity to cry and whine.
This is such a sad story. Shauna is a psychopath. However I feel like Ig didn’t help continuing with the affair. Poor suffered from what sounds like a serious depression after her family’s losses. If should have been more supportive and be there for his wife instead of feeling sorry for himself because he wasn’t getting any sex. This would never have happened if he remained faithful and supportive of his poor wife. He should have been there for Heather ‼️
Sex can be a very important side of life while a person is healthy. It was nice of him to respect his wife's years of being sexually unavailable. He took a side piece in order to not violate his wife's need for space. Unfortunately, he picked a psycho.
@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio I think he didn't need to involve another human being to get sex and cheat on his partner. He could have satisfied himself and then been there to support his life partner he chose through her struggles. Or else be honest, come to an agreement with his wife, and tell her what he was doing, maybe he could have paid escorts if he was desperate who would not treat him as more than a job. But another person is a person and is not an object to fulfil sexual or excitement needs so doing such things will always become complicated and hurtful when one already has a partner and want to keep more.
Exactly ! People acting like what he did was remotely ok cause "he needed sex 🥺" are insane , excusing his actions for no reason. He's a horrible person who couldn't even stand by his wife during her time of need cause he was too horny , if the roles were reversed and ignacio was a woman , none of these comments trying to excuse him would exist.
The fact that I live I Greeley and have never heard about this case is insane. Stuff like this happens all too often in Greeley. RIP Heather ❤
Damm you got me I thought they were gonna find her not guilty. Great video
Holy shit, that woman is absolutely psychotic.... That's terrifying
The Kenny Chesney cd was unforgivable.
Ignacio continued to be intimate with Shawna even after she became "accidentally " pregnant the first time. Maybe breaking off the affair and relocating with his family then and there would have put a stop to all the tragic events that followed. Very Sad 😢
She should have been brought up on additional charges for those mall bangs.
You win the comment section 😂 😂
Because truly.. those bangs should have been left in the past.. straight 80s. 😂
I'm saying man.
Brilliant 😂
Frank Zappa reference
They are felonious!😂
I know this video is mostly focused on the perpetrator, but Ignacio infuriating as well.
I totally hate him.
Agreed, total coward
Woah I've been binging your videos for the last couple weeks when I get home from work and Greeley is my hometown. I just moved away from Colorado last year. I paused the video right when I saw Weld county, but I'm pumped for this one
The first thing... should have had an outside agency investigate and interrogate.
Here in Canada, as soon as you can say "I know you", it's considered a conflict of interest. You must be removed from the process and an independent assigned. Judges too.
This lady is a monster. What a nightmare to have ever gotten involved with this person.
RIP to Heather and your beautiful daughter 🙏🕊️. In God's hands with your parents and child, you are no longer suffering. My deepest condolences for your remaining family and friends. God bless you all!
Your God is a sick fuck who condones murder of infants. Your prayers are comfort are empty.
Finally a case I never heard of. I think there was another Shawna in a different case, glad it isn’t a repeat so many channels post the same cases.
Yes you are lol ironically the Shawna that you’re thinking of is fucking crazy too lol
@@rationallyruby yes that’s why I thought it was that one
The price of cheating is horrific. Ignacio will never forgive himself. I don't know that he should.
He made nobody pull the trigger. It's called life, quit murdering.
❤ showing love and appreciation for your channel and all your hardwork 🙏🏻❤️
Props to the interrogating officer, first interrogation was always gonna be hard but for it to be someone u know must've hard for him
Shawna is so gross in her heart and always was, obviously. Makes me wonder about those that slept with her after Ken. Which was half the police force.
The saddest part of this whole thing is heathers baby died so young!!! Buried next to her mother like, ima cry
Ken is so pathetic. He tried to help his wife get away with murdering a man's wife so his wife can keep having her affair, while working to frame him for the murder by wearing his clothes.
My Mom used to say “end one relationship before you start another “. In this case if they would have done that perhaps everyone in this situation would have a different outcome. I don’t understand why the friend didn’t tell the police about the conversations she had. I would rather lose a friend & be nothing rather than serve 9 yrs in prison!