I’m a small business owner. The base m1 Mac mini with 8gb ram wasn’t cutting it for me for general use as I keep about 20 apps open. Traded it in for the base Mac Studio and have been very pleased. It is a perfect machine in terms of ram and ports.
Great honest review and to the point. My wife is a graphic designer, and after her 2012 decided to take a well-deserved rest, I surprised her with an M1 Mac Mini 16Gb /1Tb, and she was a happy camper. Then she began complaining that 16 Gb was not enough, that she ran out of ram from time to time; well, an unhappy wife makes the husband very miserable. After a few months, she got her upgraded M1 Max Mac Studio, 32-core GPU, 64 Gb Ram, and 2 Tb SSD (I guess that my new F150 is going to wait for another year 😂😂). Now there are no more complaints, and she is happy again. I ended up inheriting her Mac Mini, which is overkill for me. I retired on December 31, 2017, and after six months decided to go back to college to finish my degree and start my master's degree. Most of the use I get from the Mac Mini is from opening the browser for research and having my word processor open alongside (I have an ultra-wide monitor that is excellent for this purpose ). My household is an example of how two people use their PCs. Her, the need for more power, me for the simplicity. I can even go further; I plan to build a small studio shack near my house for peacetime, much needed for those long research projects for my masters, and I might get a refurbished iMac from the Apple outlet 8Gb ram and 256 Gb SSD will be enough. Stay safe; I sub to your channel.
@@luisbperez368 no problem. I went from a 34" ultrawide to a 32" 4K and the 4K is better for everything I do. I do think the Ultrawide would be better for gaming and video editing. But if you don't do those things it's a beneficial move to go to 4K.
@@WeThrowPie Sorry for the delay; I have a paper that had to be turned in last week, and I have a break now. I have a 32” 1440p on my Linux mini PC, which works for me. I am not a gamer; I only have a few old games on my PC, including Age of Empires, Warcraft (not the online game), Guild Wars, and MS Flight Simulator. My monitor setup for my Windows PC is a 27” 1080p, which is enough for me. I have tested the ultra-wide with the flight simulator, and boy did I love it, but the other games don't take advantage of the resolution. Since my Windows PC is a tiny minisforum is very easy to move from my gaming desk to my productivity desk 😂😂😂 plug and play. Stay safe 🙏
With my workflow I keep Illustraor, Photoshop, Resolve, and InDesign open all the time as I bounce between projects and my M1 mini used to slow and stutter, forcing me to close programs out. The Studio Ultra has no such issues and blows through everything I throw at it. If you use the computer for work, the little bits of time you save on the render times or switching between programs, etc. add up quickly.
The most "realtalk" review most Mac user needs. I am using the base model M1 Mac Mini (8gb ram) and I do light 3d works with CAD and it handles it 95% of the time. The 5% (minimal slowdown) is when I open multiple large files but is still acceptable since it only happens 1 in 100 scenarios. Great video... Subscribing...
Love your honest, no nonsense review. Especially like it that you talk about it from the “common user” point-of-view. I purchased the base Mac mini w/8GB of RAM but still use my intel 27” iMac, as I don’t have space on my desk to setup both. I basically do heavy spreadsheet work and the Mac mini is sufficient; but to future-proof it, think I should have gotten at least 16GB RAM. Maybe l’ll wait for the M2 Mac mini and do a trade-in? Also thinking of getting the Apple display… way down the line after I’ve saved enough… Your review helped me confirm staying with the Mac mini… unless a 27+” iMac comes around?…
I'm currently editing on a 2015 base model MBP 13", so even the base model M1 Mac Mini would change my life 🤣 I made a decision to save for a Mac Studio with the 32 GPU cores and 1TB SSD. I don't know how long it will take, but it will be worth it.
This is an excellent update review. Prior to three months ago, my main desktop was a 2010, mac mini (the last model with a built-in DVD super-drive) paired with an Apple 27-inch Cinema LED (none thunderbolt) display. I tried to order the base model Mac Studio with a few upgrades and the Apple order site said these models were on a 5-month back-order. Also, at the same time learned that the new Studio Display was not quite ready for prime time. In addition, in person Apple staff that, I asked had no idea how to connect my 27-inch Cinema display to a Mac Studio because it used Apple's mini display port. So, I picked-up a used 2014, trash can size 8-core D-700 Mac Pro with 64 GB of RAM and 1 TB of SSD storage and everything just works great together (smile...smile).
I tried to get info from Apple re connecting my Mac studio to my Cinema Display and also didn’t get the answers I needed. I scoured the web and RUclips and found the exact adapter I needed to make it work. It works great. I still plan to get the studio display next year but I’m happy enough for now.
@@JaiSequoia This sounds great. I too, was able to find information only after a lot of looking ... located a You Tuber showing how to connect a cable called an "UpTab" which, has a mini display port on one end and on the other end is a USB 3.1 Type "C" connector. This provides video and, you then connect the Cinema display's USB "A" cable to one of the USB "A" ports on the Mac Studio and, with that you should be good to go (smile...smile).
Best advice ever! Buy what that does what you do MOST! I bought and returned the Mac Studio base model, but with a 1 tb drive. Will wait for new Mac Mini. Thank you!
Thanks Garrett. You are spot on. I have had my Base studio. about three weeks now. I did upgrade mine to 64 GB of. Ram and a one TB drive. My computer I am replacing is a late 2012. Mac mini. I 7. Intel. with 16 Gig Of Ram That has been the best little machine I have ever had and I bought my First PC. way way back when I was using Lotus 123. for spread sheets I think in the late 80's early nineties. I really only upgraded. because my Mini would no longer handle having more than 15 to 20. Stock charts applications open in the background. so I really needed. a machine with at least 32 Gb Ram at a minimum and since you can't add on anymore I went for 64 GB This Studio so far has been perfect for me. and it is very , very Quick. No More. Spinning beach Balls. Yeah! I have been waiting for years to find a replacement for the Mini. and I was just thrilled. when they released the. Studio. It is really everything I could have asked for and I think the price is very reasonable for what you get and Macs just flat work. Apple. had me worried. that they would. never build this machine or a Super Mini . Thanks Apple
'It is really everything I could have asked for' Really? -Mac Studio cannot run Boot Camp and 100% Windows software compatibility -Mac Studio is terrible for gaming -there are few quality native M1 apps available -Mac Studio is sealed, non-servicable, non-upgradeable -even the cooling fan inside Mac Studio cannot be cleaned or accessed A Windows PC that costs *HALF* as much as Mac Studio is better in every way.
@@DerekDavis213 Playing devil's advocate as someone who owns a custom built PC, but is still planning on buying the Mac Studio for music production: - Most people buying Macs aren't buying them to run windows. Want windows 10? Buy a PC. - Who cares? Again, people don't buy Macs to play games. Buy a PS5 or build a gaming PC if you want to play games. - This is flat out not true. For creative tasks (music production, photo and video editing, 3D rendering) and even non-creative ones like software dev, there are tons of native applications already. - Fair point. The non user serviceable aspect of most Apple products is a shame. For most people, this is not a deterrent since they aren't the type to troubleshoot issues and do DIY repairs anyway. They would just take it to the manufacturer to get it fixed anyway. - The fans can be accessed and cleaned, but it's a royal pain in the ass. I've been repairing electronics for years and it would still be a huge pain. - Nonsense; windows PCs are most certainly not "better in every way." My $2500 system with an i9-10900k is slower (for CPU tasks) than the Mac studio. The performance of M1 smacks the shit out of anything Intel makes, and when you factor in power efficiency (performance per watt) it's game over. These machines use a fraction of the power of a huge desktop gaming rig while being faster for all non-gaming applications. Personal side note: audio on windows is an absolute dumpster fire and a non-issue on MacOS. Looking forward to producing/mixing without having to deal with windows bullshit. Keep an open mind!
@@nate_creates Boot Camp has been a *valuable* *and* *cherished* part of the Mac for many years. Now that Apple has switched to a cell-phone processor (M1), all that wonderful Windows software is pretty much GONE. Also, many peripherals and accessories that work perfectly on Windows and Intel-based Macs are NOT working properly on the M1. Many of the M1 native applications (from Adobe for example) are NOT feature-complete. The Windows version has more features, and is much more stable and mature. Also, many plug-ins for Photoshop or Premiere will not work with the native M1 software. The fans CANNOT be accessed and cleaned, for 99.9% of Mac customers. Lets be real. I've watched videos of the Mac Studio being taken-apart, and it's major surgery even for electronic repair guys like you. You obviously overpaid for your $2500 i9-10900k system, and besides that is *OLD* technology. I'm talking about Mac Studio competitors today: Intel 12700K Intel 12900K Ryzen 5950x, 16 cores and 32 threads. Ryzen 5950x costs only $499. You say the performance of the Mac Studio mops the floor with Windows running a 12900K and NVidia 3090? Doing what? Final Cut? Or that ridiculous Geekbench benchmark that *nobody* *takes* *seriously* ? You know that video games are extremely popular in 2022, and even hard-core video editors or programmers or musicians like to play games after the work day is over. Mac Studio (with a cell phone processor) is terrible for gaming! How many top AAA games on Windows will run similarly well on the Mac Studio, with cell phone processor and weak gpu? VERY FEW!
@@DerekDavis213 Most of us don't need games or bootcamp. Apps always have to be updated by the companies that make them which takes a couple of weeks. Sealed, non-self serviceable, and non-upgradable -- so what? The cooling fan most certainly can be accessed and cleaned.
@@xavhow What if you need a powerful computer at a good price? What if you will be doing a lot of work with Blender or Maya? What if you like to upgrade your computer with the latest *monster* video cards or processors? In all those cases, Mac would be a VERY bad choice. There's a good reason that Windows had 92% market share in 2021.
@@xavhow Yes but you should be talking about Mac vs Windows. The current Macs, ridiculously overpriced, with M1 processor that comes from a cell phone, are HUGELY inferior to Windows machines. Windows has 92% market share. The whole world prefers Windows. The government, the military, Wall Street. They all prefer Windows.
All totally valid points and i agree with you. I got my Mac studio base model to upgrade my studio. I write music for Tv and do some guitar video lessons etc…it’s amazing and the right tool, just as you said.
Thanks for a review of all the factors in a purchase! In my case, when I specked out the Mac mini that I wanted it was just $100 shy of the cost of a low-end Mac Studio. Taking one more step and buying a refurb Mac Studio, I ended up paying about $100 less.
I wanted a new desktop and laptop. And after getting the Mac Studio M1 Max 10/32/62/4TB, I’m returning it and getting ONLY the MacBo Pro (16” M1 Max 10/32/64/4TB ). In the past there was huge trade off choosing between desktops and laptops, but the game has changed.
@@letmebreakitdown2u152 It was a $1000 more. So I got the mobility and the screen. All in One. It's been a dream to take it with me everywhere and connect to my 3 monitors at my office
I'm 3 weeks into my Studio (Max) but I ordered it with the 1TB upgrade (which added many weeks to my wait). But it finally arrived and after a few days of getting dialed in it is perfect for my workflow which consists of hardcore Adobe creating print graphics. Its been a long time since I haven't had to wait for the beachball to do its thing. I thought long and hard about not ordering the 512 storage base version but it was worth it to future-proof myself. This is my long-term creative companion. With Apple going all-in on its M architecture, I see this machine being relevant for many years and not being outclassed quickly.
El Fez, about how much space have you used up so far? I'm in a similar boat to you where I do creative work and I kept trying to convince myself that I could make 512 GB work in order to get the Studio quicker. I'm leaning towards 1 TB now and great to hear you're happy with your 1 TB decision.
@@lolfirepoisonftl Looking at my current storage . . . . I have about 400 customers in my system. Each one has at least one InDesign file (some have as many as a dozen or so) with their own graphic source files (PSD and AI stuff). And another 200 folders full of uploaded print projects which I try to remember to zip up for storage every few months on an external drive. And I'm also storing my music and movie archive on the Studio while I move archived stuff around between external drives. So a grand total of approximately 570 GB worth of (mostly) daily work files. I knew 512gb would be cutting it close for my workflow. Yes, I don't need the music and movie archive inside the box and I certainly have plenty of older files that could go to an external but the upfront price of the full TB internal is pretty much the same price as an NVMe + Thunderbolt enclosure with the same storage. I'm coming from a Trashcan MacPro so I took out the 1TB NVMe from there and put it into an Thunderbolt enclosure and it is equally (from a human perspective anyway) just as fast as the internal storage. Wrapping up my thoughts on internal vs. external, I would say you will be pretty much equal from a performance level, equal in price either way too. So the choice would come down to how long are you able to wait? Mine took just under 8 weeks from ordering (via B&H Photo) to landing on my doorstep. I had even called B&H to cancel my order so I could pick one up in-store (probably at Best Buy or online from Costco) when they told me it had literally came in that hour and was being forwarded to my address. Good Luck!
@@2Chickaboom2 This is great and very helpful. Yeah I was considering the fast speed of the internal SSD against an external SSD in a Thunderbolt 3/4 enclosure and good to know there isn't a noticeable difference from a human perspective. I might get a Thunderbolt SSD in the future but I feel better about going with 1 TB for now. Thanks El Fez!
Ya. Your workflow would definitely be one where I’d advise having more internal storage. Especially considering how flaky Adobe can be when it comes to interacting with external storage for active projects.
16GB M1 MacMini is fantastic, if only Apple delivered full MacOS functionality on iPads (more demanding software, AdBlock, external connectivity throughput...), I could probably switch to that
It's interesting, I've been pushing my computer for so long, it's hard for me to even fathom the idea that someone would want a less powerful computer sometimes. I'm excited to possibly buy the Mac Studio, but hoping the Mac Pro will be a better price per performance dollar when it gets an m1 upgrade. It's hard because I know whichever one I do get, I'm going to stick with for a long time.
I’m actually writing a video about what the Apple Silicon Mac Pro will need to be/should be. I’m not sure if the price will come down by much, but the price to performance will hopefully be WAY better than it currently is.
I also bought a mac studio, but upgraded the ram to 64 gig, the hd to 2tb and the graphic cores. cost me around $3,200. I think It's faster than my Alienware 10th gen i9 with a 2080 Super. but I still have to be careful how I set Davinci or it will lag while editing. Overall, I'm very happy with the Mac Studio, but wish I had more hd space. the 2tb doesn't cut it for me. If I edit 360 video, It will eat terabytes really fast.
@@eprpop at the time i ordered it, it was hard to find a laptop that would beat it. Portability means a lot to me as I’ll be using it when traveling. Though switching to mac os, i find myself missing basic features, the new ones i have gained, I’m really liking.
'I think It's faster than my Alienware 10th gen i9 with a 2080 Super' It's not faster for gaming. Mac Studio with ARM chip is terrible for gaming. If you compare 12th-gen i9 (or Ryzen 5950x) vs Mac Studio, the Windows machine will utterly defeat the Mac, and for about *HALF* the price.
@@SHIFT-ED Mac Studio is great for video editing. But Mac Studio is bad for 3D modeling (Blender or Maya). Mac Studio cannot run Boot Camp with 100% Windows software compatibility. That's a huge loss for Mac customers. Mac Studio cannot be upgraded, repaired, or serviced. Even the cooling fan is inaccessible. At some point, that fan will be choked with dust. M1 Macs have all sorts of compatibility issues and limitations, especially when running plug-ins for Adobe Premiere or Photoshop. Windows has 90% market share. Intel-based Macs have 6% market share. M1 Macs have a tiny 3% market share. It's no wonder that many professional software apps are not being optimized for M1. The market is just too small.
I’m still using a 2013 iMac 27” and want to upgrade to the Mac Studio. Since I plan on keeping it for many years wouldn’t it be best to get the most GPU, CPU ram and SSD storage I can afford even if it’s overkill right now. The Mac Studio doesn’t seem to be upgradable, and I want to future proof my investment.
RAM and storage (maybe GPU on the M1 Max) would make sense. I think that the M1 Ultra is overkill even for a long term investment. Unless your workflow involves a lot of heavy tasks, that chip will easily still be overkill 12+ years from now. And by then you run the risk of Apple killing support for it. I’d say that the top M1 Max and extra ram and storage would be the best option for light to medium use over the long term. Even my fairly heavy use for the base M1 Max is handled with ease. It’s your call at the end of the day, but that’s just my thought on it.
Thanks for this, I ordered my Studio back in April and it’s due to be delivered next week so I’m just looking at some longer term reviews. What’s the dock you’ve got under the Studio please?
Crazy question - is something like the Mac Mini actually capable of delivering BETTER single core performance (ie everyday task performance) than the M1 Max? Put the other way around, if primarily on a single core is there any downside or WORSE performance from an M1 Max (your comment about efficiencies of 2 cores vs 4 has me wondering about this)??
It really depends. For actual “single core” tasks, no. This is because the cores are literally the same on both chips. The big difference is in the number of cores. If the everyday tasks you’re referring to benefit from multi core chips, then possibly because the Mac mini has double the efficiency cores of the Mac Studio.
I bought one for "day-to-day" use because I wanted the 27" monitor, and I didn't want to wait several months to see whether Apple would offer an M1 iMac with a 27" screen. And I wanted more storage than you can get on a Mac Mini. Yes, it's more power than I need, but so what? It'll be great for many years, and it feels very fast when I use it. With the Studio Display, I have a wonderful system. I kept my last Mac for over seven years. I presume I'll use the Mac Studio that long too. Spreading the "extra cost" -- not sure how to define that here -- of this more powerful computer over a few years, the annual cost seems trivial. And power is good. It's like driving a high-performance car or motorcycle. It does what you want very fast. Recommending people buy the cheapest machine that would do whatever they want most of the time doesn't appeal to me unless people are really strained financially. I have the feeling of luxury and privilege when I use my Studio, and that's hours every day. For me, it's a high pleasure-to-dollar ratio. Thanks for your thoughtful comments.
I see you're using the Qwiizlab extended hub. I bought the same and installed the Samsung 870 Evo SATA and 970 Evo Plus NVME. Problem is, even using 5v external power to hub, both drives keep disconnecting. Have you had this problem? Thx & great video.
I had that issue for a bit, but then I changed power adapters. I have a power strip with a usb power connection directly in it and I’ve had no issues since.
0:32 I thought you were going to address the zit in the center of your forehead HAHHAHAHHAAH Im just being silly, thank you for the awesome video my dude! Keep them coming!
I have to replace my 2019 iMac(GPU issues :(. ) and have been struggling with the options for the Mac Studio… every part of my being says to upgrade the RAM and SSD… 64gb &1tb. (current iMac has 40gb and 512gb). Could I survive with only 32gb of ram? Heavy Photoshop user and Davinci user.
Thank you for this. I’ve just bought a new Mac Mini 8GB and with the smaller memory. I’m exchanging it as I want to do (occasionally) gaming on Windows. I was considering the Mac Studio just to future proof and be completely comfortable in any gaming I do, but I did suspect it was a silly idea. You’ve snapped me out of it - Mini 17GB 512 it is.
Great review. I've been considering replacing my old iMac. Can you tell me about the doc you have under the Studio. I'm interested in knowing more about it.
Thanks for the video, really great review. By the way, what is that external drive that looks like a very thin Mac Studio, and you keep it under the Mac Studio..?? Can you please share the link to that product? Thanks!
Strangely enough, my ATEM mini extreme ISO just would not work with the TB ports, but worked with the USBC port in front. So if I had got a Ultra with all TB ports, I won't be able to connect.
The issue with the storage wouldn't be a matter of capacity, but longevity. The 1TB has twice the endurance of the 512GB. If you're doing write intensive work with large files regularly you could be looking at drive failure occurring earlier than ideal, which is worse for proprietary (or soldered) storage. I basically consider the base model MBA a scam if you're after the performance for intensive work, for lower cost. The combo of 8GB of RAM and 256GB SSD, just means more paging to an SSD with even worse endurance. It's literally designed for you to have to replace it sooner. I see failed 256GB and lower drives all the time in PCs and Macs. 512GB are less common, but the last one I had to replace for someone was a 4 year old Samsung. Apple is very likely using TLC nand. I personally have a nearly 10 year old MLC SATA 512GB with a bunch of SMART errors. It's spent half that time as a system drive, the rest as an external bootable diagnostic drive. I haven't hammered it as much as a content creator is likely to have.
I think the surprising performance of M1 made people forget that the MacBook Air isn’t intended to be a high-powered productivity laptop. If you are a professional, doing professional work, and your computer is a key part of that-there is another device for you. The MBA is for business analysts and executive team types who spend most of their time doing email and maybe a spreadsheet or two. Oh, and the general populace, whose computing needs rarely exceed that which could be provided by a $20 Raspberry Pi.
I'm experiencing significant slowdowns with my iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) 3.2 GHz quad-core Intel Core i5. I use final cut pro, and often have ON1 photo Raw open at the same time for searching and inserting photos into my edits. As I consider replacing my machine, do you think the Apple Studio is the right choice for this user profile? Thanks in advance.
I think the Mac Studio would definitely work well for that. Even the base M1 Max hurries the performance of the Core i5 cpu. Basically going from 4 cores to 10 cores.
your review on this has helped me to decide 1 of the 2 macs i plan on getting at some point this year for a more portable workstation, and for the software that is only on mac, but I'm planning on getting the m1 max because of your review just going to get the 32 core gpu, granted these 2 devices will be the first apple products i get and likely the only ill get unless i need the m1 ultra studio down the line. main reason is the form factor because it is more portable than my current workstation which is about 60cm in hight 120cm in depth and like 40 cm wide, which is not portable at all, so thanks for review, in helping me to decide to get this product alongside probably a MacBook pro 13 in m2, im also the same with storage all my storage is portable Un reliant on the pc.
Hi Gary I’m contemplating buying the Base Mac Studio and Studio Display. I’m hesitating because they were launched 7 months ago, should I maybe wait for an M2 version or take the plunge, I’d like to hear some feedback on the subject.
It’s kind of up to you. From what I’ve seen, the M2 platform is a somewhat minor improvement, but it is still going to be newer. Granted, 7 months for an Apple product aimed at pros isnt really that old. I don’t plan on changing mine out for many years. I think the upper tier M1 machines are great and will stay what way for a while.
Yes. There is a function called Target Display Mode. If you connect a newer machine via thunderbolt or display port and put the iMac in that mode, they will use it as a monitor
Great tips and information, I am on the process of upgrading to a much better computer, which I need for editing my art videos, editing art for prints and lots more I did look into purchasing the Mac studio, does this computer have the capacity to deal with enough storage and workload? many thanks.
So, I work from external storage almost exclusively. So 512GB of storage was enough from me. If you want to work off of internal storage, upgrading the storage may be something you’d want to do.
Why the heck does nobody talk about future proofing. Offsetting obsolescence. “ you probably don’t need the power of the Mac Studio if you’re just doing day-to-day chores” What about seven freaking years from now? Won’t today’s max studio handle day to day chores adequately, where the M1 Mac mini will choke on the same tasks? It’s so weird that people talk about today’s needs, when everything changes dramatically every 18 months.
The reason that I recommend the M1 Mac mini for day to day is because it WILL handle day to day now and well into the future. Mine handled fairly intense tasks that most people will never ask of it! However, the Mac Studio will handle intense work now and well into the future. Both are great for now and the future, but the Mac minis are more about day to day task for a long time and the Mac studio is more about heavy workloads now and into the future.
Something being more powerful now doesn't mean it will last longer. For example, lets say m3 has better hardware raytracing support and games start taking advantage of that more and well now you're superpowered machine is still out of date. Now, to be fair, I think phones have suffered more from this, since they were for a good while barely able to keep up with the internet sometimes. But as long as we are talking about more powerful devices, I think you hit a point of diminishing returns real fast when it comes to future proofing, but it all depends on what you do.
@@DerekDavis213 I keep mine for a good while. The transition process to a new computer isn’t always easy on my work programs, some of them are pickier than others about migrating to new systems etc. On top of that, I can honestly say in the last several years the speed gains just haven’t been there. My hackintosh build is probably 5-7 years old and my mac pro before that was around the same. The jump between them was less than you’d think for my work, though there was an improvement. The biggest benefits seem to be graphics cards, which gained a lot of you take advantage of Ray Tracing etc. Music software is still a bit all over the place when it comes to multi threading, so I suspect a lot of my bottleneck is software just as much as it is hardware sometimes. Multithreading performance is much better than what it was 12 years ago, even on an old computer. So a lot of the benefits I see I’d also see on my older system in some cases, but it depends greatly on the project / session itself.
@@bubblepipemedia3414 'the last several years the speed gains just haven’t been there' In the Windows PC world, there have been huge gains: 12th-generation Intel Alder Lake processors, and Ryzen 5000-series processors. Also, SSD drives that now run at up to 7500 megabytes/second. Which is important when video editing large 4k or 6k files. And Apple turned their back on all that, and went with a processor from a cell phone (M1). M1 also cannot run Boot Camp with 100% Windows software compatibility. That is a HUGE loss for Mac customers.
The problem is it is a tooll for which I have no use, but it doesn't change the fact that I still wantt it! I am fighting some serious demons right now, please keep me in your prayers altough I expect to lose horrendously!
@@DerekDavis213 I have an i7-8700 Desktop PC, a ThinkPad T14, a ThinkPad T470, an Intel NUCi58BEH... so basically I have plenty of Windows machines, but I need that arm M2 chip, I need to feel it's power efficiency, it's coolness, it's raw power. I need it all. I don't believe in Adam and Steve, only Adam and Eve, but Timmy-Nina can take my money. I refuse to fund Armani and Versace though!
get the m2 mini pro if you want a great computer get the studio if you HAVE to have the ports get the ULTRA if you need the fastest render/export times possible
Hi there. Thanks for the great review. Very useful. I'm going to be buying this same model with spec soon. I do a lot of video editing. Mostly on HD 1080p and on occasion 4K. I'm currently researching 27 inch monitors which are colour accurate. I only have the space and budget for only 1. I was originally looking at 4K so I can see full res playback in final exports but I'm a bit concerned about Apple OS scaling for the software windows? I would be using scaling display option as the text size for day to day will be a struggle I think. Would it be better to get a QHD 1440p monitor instead and then playback will "almost" as good but day to day use will be more easier on the eye? What monitor option did you go for? I'm currently looking at the LG 27up850-w, Lenovo ThinkVision P27u-20 and the Dell UltraSharp U2723QE. These are all 4K but would look for the QHD version instead should I go down that route instead. I would be very grateful for any of your experienced advice. Best
I went with 1440p monitors and prioritized color accuracy. The ones I have aren’t made anymore, but Dell and LG’s color accuracy claims are pretty spot on when it comes to their higher end monitors. Also, window scaling hasn’t been much of an issue for me, but I know some programs can be weird about that in macOS. Either way, the Dell and LG options you listed are solid. I don’t have enough experience with Lenovo to really comment on them though.
@@GarrettCrespo thanks for getting back to me. Much appreciated. Yes the Lenovo too has a impressive stats, pre-calibrated accuracy, a dual wide colour gamut (99.1% DCI-P3 and 99.5% Adobe RGB), and a VESA DisplayHDR 400 support. Ah OK you have 1440p ones. I imagine that you wouldn't be running scaling as no need, which is what I'm thinking might be the best. Just hope I don't miss the 4K playback.
No problems. Also, if you’re talking about 4K playback in your editing tool, that’s usually not an issue if you’re editing in one screen because the playback window is smaller anyway. Playback after the export would be the only drawback, but I haven’t had an issue with it.
Me too brother ... did you end up getting one? I haven't had a functional computer in a few years and I had a dream (I'm convinced from the Lord) that I need to make music for His glory ... I'm opting for this I decided ... Funny I should see you here! God bless! In Jesus' mighty name!
yep, honest review. Let me be honest too! The 24 core GPU was deemed "binned" because the batch was not passed for the basic 32 core GPU that it was designed to be, hence it should have not been put into production. However, instead of selling the faulty GpU at 1, 799.00 Apple is trying to get their investment back and sold and marketed it at $1,999 where the 32 core GPU base unit should have been! So we are effectively paying 400 bucks more for the 32 core base unit which is not an 'upgraded' but standard cpu! That's marketing! What I'm really pissed about is that now very few users consider testing the 32 core GPU as the base model, instead preferring to pay less for the Below-the -baseline one with the 24 core GpU! It's all in the name! that's business. I bought the 32 core GPU model and it's much faster than the 24 core! Apple made suckers of all of us! same with the 48 core ULTRA compared to the 64 core GPU, ETC! Is it double the output OF THE 32 CORE? Not at all, coming only close to 42% better. chips with manufacturing faults are not supposed to be sold as a cheaper version, but actually destroyed, but not in this case! every version has a BIN, may it be 20 core, 24 core 28 core or 32 core. it's a collection of passes or fails separated into different bins!
I see what you’re saying, but this is actually a practice that’s existed in the industry for decades. Intel does the exact same thing for their main Core chips. One wafer is made and the i9, i7, i5, and i3 chips are all cut from it based on the quality of the silicon yield. I have no problem with Apple doing the same considering it allows them to offer a varied price range.
extra 16 gigabytes. not the extra 32 gB. but it is ugly dude. it is ugly. it's hard to look at everyday.the os needs a rewrite cpus are not being used well enough.
That’s why I also brought up the fact that real world use is more suited for the M1 Mac mini. I do try to focus on general use for some videos, but videos about performance have to come from what I’m super familiar with. But I get it. It can get pretty boring when RUclipsrs all bring up the same points.
@@GarrettCrespo Don't get me wrong, it is a nice review, but all I see is a hundreds of reviews of Studio for video editing. But most of us are generic users, who want to have a fast computer. I think, some of reviewers could benefit, by doing separate reviews for generic users. We want speed in everyday operations, we want many displays and we do run some virtualisation so doi need some memory.
@@teaearlgrayh0t A generic user who desires a fast computer and doesn't run Final Cut should just *avoid* the Mac entirely. A very fast Windows PC is much cheaper, and much more capable than any Mac. Especially a Mac with M1 processor, which comes from a cell phone.
toys and anime. sigh. a glass case of figurines. I wish modern people would grow up. I have a hard time taking people seriously with a bunch of this stuff sitting around.
Wow. Out come the personal attacks. What this has to do with the subjects under discussion is a mystery. If you don’t like personal choices of a reviewer, don’t watch the channel. If you feel that way, why are you here and making negative comments? Does it fulfill some need to feel superior?
I pooped into this vid and had forgotten I had commented a few months previously. In fact, this was the last Mac Studio vid I had watched after buying mine. I THEN realized, after a week or three of fine tuning my Studio for myself (under-shelf mounting, finding the right combination of external components, etc.), that I rarely even THINK about my computer. It JUST WORKS, and it does that with zero hardware drama. Zero noise (my creaky old external HD collection is another story), and zero worries. I named it Maximo. Lol. I mounted it with the rear facing me (behind my twin monitors) so that I could access the ports when needed (much less of an issue once I sorted everything out) and there is no way to prettify my wiring nest, so it stays hidden. This is for work, not making zen YT videos. I have no regrets, I would not need or want anything upgraded on the specs I chose, nor was any choices deemed an overkill. It’s perfect for me. Software-wise, it has some quirks with Adobe suite that I hoped would self correct by now but nothing worth getting my underoos in a knot. And even that may just be a monitor setting. It was nice rewatching this vid with a few additional months of experience on this machine.
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I’m a small business owner. The base m1 Mac mini with 8gb ram wasn’t cutting it for me for general use as I keep about 20 apps open. Traded it in for the base Mac Studio and have been very pleased. It is a perfect machine in terms of ram and ports.
Great honest review and to the point. My wife is a graphic designer, and after her 2012 decided to take a well-deserved rest, I surprised her with an M1 Mac Mini 16Gb /1Tb, and she was a happy camper. Then she began complaining that 16 Gb was not enough, that she ran out of ram from time to time; well, an unhappy wife makes the husband very miserable. After a few months, she got her upgraded M1 Max Mac Studio, 32-core GPU, 64 Gb Ram, and 2 Tb SSD (I guess that my new F150 is going to wait for another year 😂😂). Now there are no more complaints, and she is happy again. I ended up inheriting her Mac Mini, which is overkill for me. I retired on December 31, 2017, and after six months decided to go back to college to finish my degree and start my master's degree. Most of the use I get from the Mac Mini is from opening the browser for research and having my word processor open alongside (I have an ultra-wide monitor that is excellent for this purpose ). My household is an example of how two people use their PCs. Her, the need for more power, me for the simplicity. I can even go further; I plan to build a small studio shack near my house for peacetime, much needed for those long research projects for my masters, and I might get a refurbished iMac from the Apple outlet 8Gb ram and 256 Gb SSD will be enough. Stay safe; I sub to your channel.
just a note, a 16:9 4k monitor is markedly better for side by side windows
@@WeThrowPie Thanks for the info, Sir.
@@luisbperez368 no problem. I went from a 34" ultrawide to a 32" 4K and the 4K is better for everything I do. I do think the Ultrawide would be better for gaming and video editing. But if you don't do those things it's a beneficial move to go to 4K.
Yeah the Mac Studio is a $1400 RAM upgrade lol. I want 32GB dang it :/
@@WeThrowPie Sorry for the delay; I have a paper that had to be turned in last week, and I have a break now. I have a 32” 1440p on my Linux mini PC, which works for me. I am not a gamer; I only have a few old games on my PC, including Age of Empires, Warcraft (not the online game), Guild Wars, and MS Flight Simulator. My monitor setup for my Windows PC is a 27” 1080p, which is enough for me. I have tested the ultra-wide with the flight simulator, and boy did I love it, but the other games don't take advantage of the resolution. Since my Windows PC is a tiny minisforum is very easy to move from my gaming desk to my productivity desk 😂😂😂 plug and play. Stay safe 🙏
With my workflow I keep Illustraor, Photoshop, Resolve, and InDesign open all the time as I bounce between projects and my M1 mini used to slow and stutter, forcing me to close programs out. The Studio Ultra has no such issues and blows through everything I throw at it.
If you use the computer for work, the little bits of time you save on the render times or switching between programs, etc. add up quickly.
The most "realtalk" review most Mac user needs. I am using the base model M1 Mac Mini (8gb ram) and I do light 3d works with CAD and it handles it 95% of the time. The 5% (minimal slowdown) is when I open multiple large files but is still acceptable since it only happens 1 in 100 scenarios. Great video... Subscribing...
you 5 out of a 100 scenarios
What cad program are you using? Are you using parallels or similar to run windows for your car software?
Love your honest, no nonsense review. Especially like it that you talk about it from the “common user” point-of-view. I purchased the base Mac mini w/8GB of RAM but still use my intel 27” iMac, as I don’t have space on my desk to setup both. I basically do heavy spreadsheet work and the Mac mini is sufficient; but to future-proof it, think I should have gotten at least 16GB RAM. Maybe l’ll wait for the M2 Mac mini and do a trade-in? Also thinking of getting the Apple display… way down the line after I’ve saved enough… Your review helped me confirm staying with the Mac mini… unless a 27+” iMac comes around?…
I'm currently editing on a 2015 base model MBP 13", so even the base model M1 Mac Mini would change my life 🤣 I made a decision to save for a Mac Studio with the 32 GPU cores and 1TB SSD. I don't know how long it will take, but it will be worth it.
This is an excellent update review. Prior to three months ago, my main desktop was a 2010, mac mini (the last model with a built-in DVD super-drive) paired with an Apple 27-inch Cinema LED (none thunderbolt) display. I tried to order the base model Mac Studio with a few upgrades and the Apple order site said these models were on a 5-month back-order. Also, at the same time learned that the new Studio Display was not quite ready for prime time. In addition, in person Apple staff that, I asked had no idea how to connect my 27-inch Cinema display to a Mac Studio because it used Apple's mini display port. So, I picked-up a used 2014, trash can size 8-core D-700 Mac Pro with 64 GB of RAM and 1 TB of SSD storage and everything just works great together (smile...smile).
I tried to get info from Apple re connecting my Mac studio to my Cinema Display and also didn’t get the answers I needed. I scoured the web and RUclips and found the exact adapter I needed to make it work. It works great. I still plan to get the studio display next year but I’m happy enough for now.
@@JaiSequoia This sounds great. I too, was able to find information only after a lot of looking ... located a You Tuber showing how to connect a cable called an "UpTab" which, has a mini display port on one end and on the other end is a USB 3.1 Type "C" connector. This provides video and, you then connect the Cinema display's USB "A" cable to one of the USB "A" ports on the Mac Studio and, with that you should be good to go (smile...smile).
Best advice ever! Buy what that does what you do MOST! I bought and returned the Mac Studio base model, but with a 1 tb drive. Will wait for new Mac Mini. Thank you!
Thanks Garrett. You are spot on. I have had my Base studio. about three weeks now. I did upgrade mine to 64 GB of. Ram and a one TB drive. My computer I am replacing is a late 2012. Mac mini. I 7. Intel. with 16 Gig Of Ram That has been the best little machine I have ever had and I bought my First PC. way way back when I was using Lotus 123. for spread sheets I think in the late 80's early nineties. I really only upgraded. because my Mini would no longer handle having more than 15 to 20. Stock charts applications open in the background. so I really needed. a machine with at least 32 Gb Ram at a minimum and since you can't add on anymore I went for 64 GB This Studio so far has been perfect for me. and it is very , very Quick. No More. Spinning beach Balls. Yeah! I have been waiting for years to find a replacement for the Mini. and I was just thrilled. when they released the. Studio. It is really everything I could have asked for and I think the price is very reasonable for what you get and Macs just flat work. Apple. had me worried. that they would. never build this machine or a Super Mini . Thanks Apple
'It is really everything I could have asked for'
Really?
-Mac Studio cannot run Boot Camp and 100% Windows software compatibility
-Mac Studio is terrible for gaming
-there are few quality native M1 apps available
-Mac Studio is sealed, non-servicable, non-upgradeable
-even the cooling fan inside Mac Studio cannot be cleaned or accessed
A Windows PC that costs *HALF* as much as Mac Studio is better in every way.
@@DerekDavis213 Playing devil's advocate as someone who owns a custom built PC, but is still planning on buying the Mac Studio for music production:
- Most people buying Macs aren't buying them to run windows. Want windows 10? Buy a PC.
- Who cares? Again, people don't buy Macs to play games. Buy a PS5 or build a gaming PC if you want to play games.
- This is flat out not true. For creative tasks (music production, photo and video editing, 3D rendering) and even non-creative ones like software dev, there are tons of native applications already.
- Fair point. The non user serviceable aspect of most Apple products is a shame. For most people, this is not a deterrent since they aren't the type to troubleshoot issues and do DIY repairs anyway. They would just take it to the manufacturer to get it fixed anyway.
- The fans can be accessed and cleaned, but it's a royal pain in the ass. I've been repairing electronics for years and it would still be a huge pain.
- Nonsense; windows PCs are most certainly not "better in every way." My $2500 system with an i9-10900k is slower (for CPU tasks) than the Mac studio. The performance of M1 smacks the shit out of anything Intel makes, and when you factor in power efficiency (performance per watt) it's game over. These machines use a fraction of the power of a huge desktop gaming rig while being faster for all non-gaming applications. Personal side note: audio on windows is an absolute dumpster fire and a non-issue on MacOS. Looking forward to producing/mixing without having to deal with windows bullshit.
Keep an open mind!
@@nate_creates Boot Camp has been a *valuable* *and* *cherished* part of the Mac for many years. Now that Apple has switched to a cell-phone processor (M1), all that wonderful Windows software is pretty much GONE.
Also, many peripherals and accessories that work perfectly on Windows and Intel-based Macs are NOT working properly on the M1.
Many of the M1 native applications (from Adobe for example) are NOT feature-complete. The Windows version has more features, and is much more stable and mature. Also, many plug-ins for Photoshop or Premiere will not work with the native M1 software.
The fans CANNOT be accessed and cleaned, for 99.9% of Mac customers. Lets be real. I've watched videos of the Mac Studio being taken-apart, and it's major surgery even for electronic repair guys like you.
You obviously overpaid for your $2500 i9-10900k system, and besides that is *OLD* technology. I'm talking about Mac Studio competitors today:
Intel 12700K
Intel 12900K
Ryzen 5950x, 16 cores and 32 threads.
Ryzen 5950x costs only $499.
You say the performance of the Mac Studio mops the floor with Windows running a 12900K and NVidia 3090? Doing what? Final Cut? Or that ridiculous Geekbench benchmark that *nobody* *takes* *seriously* ?
You know that video games are extremely popular in 2022, and even hard-core video editors or programmers or musicians like to play games after the work day is over.
Mac Studio (with a cell phone processor) is terrible for gaming! How many top AAA games on Windows will run similarly well on the Mac Studio, with cell phone processor and weak gpu? VERY FEW!
@@DerekDavis213 Most of us don't need games or bootcamp. Apps always have to be updated by the companies that make them which takes a couple of weeks. Sealed, non-self serviceable, and non-upgradable -- so what? The cooling fan most certainly can be accessed and cleaned.
@@DerekDavis213 By the time you need to clean the fans, it's time for a new computer, anyway. Lifespan -- sometimes as little as 3 years.
what monitors are you using with the mac studio? just bought one but looking for a monitor under 1200
Honest and to the point. Base M1/M2 will probably handle 90% of the tasks well. If you know you are the 10%, by all means get pro/max/ultra.
90% of the tasks?
What about gaming?
What about running Windows software via Boot Camp?
@@DerekDavis213 if you really need gaming or windows specific software. Mac isn't really your first choice in the first place.
@@xavhow What if you need a powerful computer at a good price?
What if you will be doing a lot of work with Blender or Maya?
What if you like to upgrade your computer with the latest *monster* video cards or processors?
In all those cases, Mac would be a VERY bad choice.
There's a good reason that Windows had 92% market share in 2021.
@@DerekDavis213 chill out.
I was't even talking about Mac vs Windows.
90% being you know what Macs can do, 10% pro tasks.
@@xavhow Yes but you should be talking about Mac vs Windows.
The current Macs, ridiculously overpriced, with M1 processor that comes from a cell phone, are HUGELY inferior to Windows machines.
Windows has 92% market share. The whole world prefers Windows. The government, the military, Wall Street. They all prefer Windows.
All totally valid points and i agree with you. I got my Mac studio base model to upgrade my studio. I write music for Tv and do some guitar video lessons etc…it’s amazing and the right tool, just as you said.
Thanks for a review of all the factors in a purchase! In my case, when I specked out the Mac mini that I wanted it was just $100 shy of the cost of a low-end Mac Studio. Taking one more step and buying a refurb Mac Studio, I ended up paying about $100 less.
Hoping for an M2 Mac Mini (with more ports) for Logic Pro X. My 2014 MBP 15" is slowly starting to be too slow....
I think since I own a i9 iMac the cost versus performance doesn’t payoff for me :( Wish it was more than it is.
I wanted a new desktop and laptop. And after getting the Mac Studio M1 Max 10/32/62/4TB, I’m returning it and getting ONLY the MacBo Pro (16” M1 Max 10/32/64/4TB ). In the past there was huge trade off choosing between desktops and laptops, but the game has changed.
But won't you pay tons more for the laptop?
@@letmebreakitdown2u152 It was a $1000 more. So I got the mobility and the screen. All in One. It's been a dream to take it with me everywhere and connect to my 3 monitors at my office
I'm 3 weeks into my Studio (Max) but I ordered it with the 1TB upgrade (which added many weeks to my wait). But it finally arrived and after a few days of getting dialed in it is perfect for my workflow which consists of hardcore Adobe creating print graphics. Its been a long time since I haven't had to wait for the beachball to do its thing. I thought long and hard about not ordering the 512 storage base version but it was worth it to future-proof myself. This is my long-term creative companion.
With Apple going all-in on its M architecture, I see this machine being relevant for many years and not being outclassed quickly.
El Fez, about how much space have you used up so far? I'm in a similar boat to you where I do creative work and I kept trying to convince myself that I could make 512 GB work in order to get the Studio quicker. I'm leaning towards 1 TB now and great to hear you're happy with your 1 TB decision.
@@lolfirepoisonftl Looking at my current storage . . . . I have about 400 customers in my system. Each one has at least one InDesign file (some have as many as a dozen or so) with their own graphic source files (PSD and AI stuff). And another 200 folders full of uploaded print projects which I try to remember to zip up for storage every few months on an external drive. And I'm also storing my music and movie archive on the Studio while I move archived stuff around between external drives.
So a grand total of approximately 570 GB worth of (mostly) daily work files. I knew 512gb would be cutting it close for my workflow. Yes, I don't need the music and movie archive inside the box and I certainly have plenty of older files that could go to an external but the upfront price of the full TB internal is pretty much the same price as an NVMe + Thunderbolt enclosure with the same storage.
I'm coming from a Trashcan MacPro so I took out the 1TB NVMe from there and put it into an Thunderbolt enclosure and it is equally (from a human perspective anyway) just as fast as the internal storage.
Wrapping up my thoughts on internal vs. external, I would say you will be pretty much equal from a performance level, equal in price either way too. So the choice would come down to how long are you able to wait?
Mine took just under 8 weeks from ordering (via B&H Photo) to landing on my doorstep. I had even called B&H to cancel my order so I could pick one up in-store (probably at Best Buy or online from Costco) when they told me it had literally came in that hour and was being forwarded to my address. Good Luck!
@@2Chickaboom2 This is great and very helpful. Yeah I was considering the fast speed of the internal SSD against an external SSD in a Thunderbolt 3/4 enclosure and good to know there isn't a noticeable difference from a human perspective. I might get a Thunderbolt SSD in the future but I feel better about going with 1 TB for now. Thanks El Fez!
Ya. Your workflow would definitely be one where I’d advise having more internal storage. Especially considering how flaky Adobe can be when it comes to interacting with external storage for active projects.
love your honesty in this long term review
16GB M1 MacMini is fantastic,
if only Apple delivered full MacOS functionality on iPads (more demanding software, AdBlock, external connectivity throughput...), I could probably switch to that
It's interesting, I've been pushing my computer for so long, it's hard for me to even fathom the idea that someone would want a less powerful computer sometimes. I'm excited to possibly buy the Mac Studio, but hoping the Mac Pro will be a better price per performance dollar when it gets an m1 upgrade. It's hard because I know whichever one I do get, I'm going to stick with for a long time.
I’m actually writing a video about what the Apple Silicon Mac Pro will need to be/should be. I’m not sure if the price will come down by much, but the price to performance will hopefully be WAY better than it currently is.
I also bought a mac studio, but upgraded the ram to 64 gig, the hd to 2tb and the graphic cores. cost me around $3,200.
I think It's faster than my Alienware 10th gen i9 with a 2080 Super. but I still have to be careful how I set Davinci or it will lag while editing.
Overall, I'm very happy with the Mac Studio, but wish I had more hd space. the 2tb doesn't cut it for me. If I edit 360 video, It will eat terabytes really fast.
You can build a PC for $3200 that is better than your Mac studio.
@@eprpop at the time i ordered it, it was hard to find a laptop that would beat it. Portability means a lot to me as I’ll be using it when traveling. Though switching to mac os, i find myself missing basic features, the new ones i have gained, I’m really liking.
'I think It's faster than my Alienware 10th gen i9 with a 2080 Super'
It's not faster for gaming. Mac Studio with ARM chip is terrible for gaming.
If you compare 12th-gen i9 (or Ryzen 5950x) vs Mac Studio, the Windows machine will utterly defeat the Mac, and for about *HALF* the price.
@@DerekDavis213 i don’t game on computers, i use it for video and photo editing. To play games i use my xbox and oculus.
@@SHIFT-ED Mac Studio is great for video editing.
But Mac Studio is bad for 3D modeling (Blender or Maya).
Mac Studio cannot run Boot Camp with 100% Windows software compatibility. That's a huge loss for Mac customers.
Mac Studio cannot be upgraded, repaired, or serviced. Even the cooling fan is inaccessible. At some point, that fan will be choked with dust.
M1 Macs have all sorts of compatibility issues and limitations, especially when running plug-ins for Adobe Premiere or Photoshop.
Windows has 90% market share.
Intel-based Macs have 6% market share.
M1 Macs have a tiny 3% market share. It's no wonder that many professional software apps are not being optimized for M1. The market is just too small.
I’m still using a 2013 iMac 27” and want to upgrade to the Mac Studio. Since I plan on keeping it for many years wouldn’t it be best to get the most GPU, CPU ram and SSD storage I can afford even if it’s overkill right now. The Mac Studio doesn’t seem to be upgradable, and I want to future proof my investment.
RAM and storage (maybe GPU on the M1 Max) would make sense. I think that the M1 Ultra is overkill even for a long term investment. Unless your workflow involves a lot of heavy tasks, that chip will easily still be overkill 12+ years from now. And by then you run the risk of Apple killing support for it. I’d say that the top M1 Max and extra ram and storage would be the best option for light to medium use over the long term. Even my fairly heavy use for the base M1 Max is handled with ease. It’s your call at the end of the day, but that’s just my thought on it.
Thanks, appreciate your advice.
Thanks for this, I ordered my Studio back in April and it’s due to be delivered next week so I’m just looking at some longer term reviews.
What’s the dock you’ve got under the Studio please?
Crazy question - is something like the Mac Mini actually capable of delivering BETTER single core performance (ie everyday task performance) than the M1 Max? Put the other way around, if primarily on a single core is there any downside or WORSE performance from an M1 Max (your comment about efficiencies of 2 cores vs 4 has me wondering about this)??
It really depends. For actual “single core” tasks, no. This is because the cores are literally the same on both chips. The big difference is in the number of cores. If the everyday tasks you’re referring to benefit from multi core chips, then possibly because the Mac mini has double the efficiency cores of the Mac Studio.
Thanks for being honest, worth watching, I tended to agree before watching but you assured me my direction was correct.
Can you post a link to the base station thing you have the studio on? Seems really nifty.
I bought one for "day-to-day" use because I wanted the 27" monitor, and I didn't want to wait several months to see whether Apple would offer an M1 iMac with a 27" screen. And I wanted more storage than you can get on a Mac Mini. Yes, it's more power than I need, but so what? It'll be great for many years, and it feels very fast when I use it. With the Studio Display, I have a wonderful system. I kept my last Mac for over seven years. I presume I'll use the Mac Studio that long too. Spreading the "extra cost" -- not sure how to define that here -- of this more powerful computer over a few years, the annual cost seems trivial. And power is good. It's like driving a high-performance car or motorcycle. It does what you want very fast. Recommending people buy the cheapest machine that would do whatever they want most of the time doesn't appeal to me unless people are really strained financially. I have the feeling of luxury and privilege when I use my Studio, and that's hours every day. For me, it's a high pleasure-to-dollar ratio. Thanks for your thoughtful comments.
Nice video, right now i'm installing a copy of TM on my new Mac Studio (base)
I see you're using the Qwiizlab extended hub. I bought the same and installed the Samsung 870 Evo SATA and 970 Evo Plus NVME. Problem is, even using 5v external power to hub, both drives keep disconnecting. Have you had this problem? Thx & great video.
I had that issue for a bit, but then I changed power adapters. I have a power strip with a usb power connection directly in it and I’ve had no issues since.
0:32 I thought you were going to address the zit in the center of your forehead HAHHAHAHHAAH Im just being silly, thank you for the awesome video my dude! Keep them coming!
I have to replace my 2019 iMac(GPU issues :(. ) and have been struggling with the options for the Mac Studio… every part of my being says to upgrade the RAM and SSD… 64gb &1tb. (current iMac has 40gb and 512gb). Could I survive with only 32gb of ram? Heavy Photoshop user and Davinci user.
Thank you for this. I’ve just bought a new Mac Mini 8GB and with the smaller memory. I’m exchanging it as I want to do (occasionally) gaming on Windows. I was considering the Mac Studio just to future proof and be completely comfortable in any gaming I do, but I did suspect it was a silly idea. You’ve snapped me out of it - Mini 17GB 512 it is.
thanks for your review. as a normal person this is a good review for us..thanks for this
Great review. I've been considering replacing my old iMac. Can you tell me about the doc you have under the Studio. I'm interested in knowing more about it.
It's a USB dock and storage enclosure by a company called qwiizlabs. It isn't thunderbolt quality, but its a good middle ground.
Thanks for the video, really great review. By the way, what is that external drive that looks like a very thin Mac Studio, and you keep it under the Mac Studio..?? Can you please share the link to that product? Thanks!
It seems to be the Quiizlab UH25. I have the OWC ministack STX which is lot more expensive but provides TB4/USB4 connection and hub.
Strangely enough, my ATEM mini extreme ISO just would not work with the TB ports, but worked with the USBC port in front. So if I had got a Ultra with all TB ports, I won't be able to connect.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing! Though that is quite the odd bug/hardware limit
The issue with the storage wouldn't be a matter of capacity, but longevity. The 1TB has twice the endurance of the 512GB. If you're doing write intensive work with large files regularly you could be looking at drive failure occurring earlier than ideal, which is worse for proprietary (or soldered) storage. I basically consider the base model MBA a scam if you're after the performance for intensive work, for lower cost. The combo of 8GB of RAM and 256GB SSD, just means more paging to an SSD with even worse endurance. It's literally designed for you to have to replace it sooner. I see failed 256GB and lower drives all the time in PCs and Macs. 512GB are less common, but the last one I had to replace for someone was a 4 year old Samsung. Apple is very likely using TLC nand. I personally have a nearly 10 year old MLC SATA 512GB with a bunch of SMART errors. It's spent half that time as a system drive, the rest as an external bootable diagnostic drive. I haven't hammered it as much as a content creator is likely to have.
I think the surprising performance of M1 made people forget that the MacBook Air isn’t intended to be a high-powered productivity laptop. If you are a professional, doing professional work, and your computer is a key part of that-there is another device for you. The MBA is for business analysts and executive team types who spend most of their time doing email and maybe a spreadsheet or two. Oh, and the general populace, whose computing needs rarely exceed that which could be provided by a $20 Raspberry Pi.
I'm experiencing significant slowdowns with my iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) 3.2 GHz quad-core Intel Core i5. I use final cut pro, and often have ON1 photo Raw open at the same time for searching and inserting photos into my edits.
As I consider replacing my machine, do you think the Apple Studio is the right choice for this user profile?
Thanks in advance.
I think the Mac Studio would definitely work well for that. Even the base M1 Max hurries the performance of the Core i5 cpu. Basically going from 4 cores to 10 cores.
What type of monitors are those
your review on this has helped me to decide 1 of the 2 macs i plan on getting at some point this year for a more portable workstation, and for the software that is only on mac, but I'm planning on getting the m1 max because of your review just going to get the 32 core gpu, granted these 2 devices will be the first apple products i get and likely the only ill get unless i need the m1 ultra studio down the line. main reason is the form factor because it is more portable than my current workstation which is about 60cm in hight 120cm in depth and like 40 cm wide, which is not portable at all, so thanks for review, in helping me to decide to get this product alongside probably a MacBook pro 13 in m2, im also the same with storage all my storage is portable Un reliant on the pc.
Hi Gary I’m contemplating buying the Base Mac Studio and Studio Display. I’m hesitating because they were launched 7 months ago, should I maybe wait for an M2 version or take the plunge, I’d like to hear some feedback on the subject.
It’s kind of up to you. From what I’ve seen, the M2 platform is a somewhat minor improvement, but it is still going to be newer. Granted, 7 months for an Apple product aimed at pros isnt really that old. I don’t plan on changing mine out for many years. I think the upper tier M1 machines are great and will stay what way for a while.
I am quite certain the M1 mini would be enough for me but need(want) more than 2 monitors. Trying to hold out for a M2 Pro Mini or iMac.
I ran two monitors of the M1 Mac mini. Dual 1440p monitors. One off of HDMI and the other off of USB C.
@@GarrettCrespo I currently run 3 monitors and a tv off my 5,1 Mac Pro.
Gotcha. Ya, three monitors would need more than the M1
Still using my 2011 27 inch iMac but looking to get the studio soon. Can I use my iMac as a monitor? Thanks for this very fine video.
Yes. There is a function called Target Display Mode. If you connect a newer machine via thunderbolt or display port and put the iMac in that mode, they will use it as a monitor
@@GarrettCrespo Thanks Garrett, be certain to follow you.
Good Information about the efficient Cores 👍🏻 , thanks
What dock are you using?
Great review! Comes from a very practical and pragmatic point of view.
what is that accessory under the mac studio? Looks like a very flat mac mini
I totally forgot to add that card. Here’s the video about it. ruclips.net/video/qCZnqLU3pkU/видео.html
Great tips and information, I am on the process of upgrading to a much better computer, which I need for editing my art videos, editing art for prints and lots more I did look into purchasing the Mac studio, does this computer have the capacity to deal with enough storage and workload? many thanks.
So, I work from external storage almost exclusively. So 512GB of storage was enough from me. If you want to work off of internal storage, upgrading the storage may be something you’d want to do.
@@GarrettCrespo thank you for the advise 👍
Great video. thanks. Any issues using/working off external SSD's? Mine hiccups sometimes which did not happen on my 16gb M1 Mac Mini.
Why the heck does nobody talk about future proofing. Offsetting obsolescence.
“ you probably don’t need the power of the Mac Studio if you’re just doing day-to-day chores”
What about seven freaking years from now?
Won’t today’s max studio handle day to day chores adequately, where the M1 Mac mini will choke on the same tasks?
It’s so weird that people talk about today’s needs, when everything changes dramatically every 18 months.
The reason that I recommend the M1 Mac mini for day to day is because it WILL handle day to day now and well into the future. Mine handled fairly intense tasks that most people will never ask of it! However, the Mac Studio will handle intense work now and well into the future. Both are great for now and the future, but the Mac minis are more about day to day task for a long time and the Mac studio is more about heavy workloads now and into the future.
Something being more powerful now doesn't mean it will last longer. For example, lets say m3 has better hardware raytracing support and games start taking advantage of that more and well now you're superpowered machine is still out of date.
Now, to be fair, I think phones have suffered more from this, since they were for a good while barely able to keep up with the internet sometimes. But as long as we are talking about more powerful devices, I think you hit a point of diminishing returns real fast when it comes to future proofing, but it all depends on what you do.
Who keeps a computer for 7 years? Every 2 or 3 years, sell the old computer and then buy something MUCH faster.
@@DerekDavis213 I keep mine for a good while. The transition process to a new computer isn’t always easy on my work programs, some of them are pickier than others about migrating to new systems etc. On top of that, I can honestly say in the last several years the speed gains just haven’t been there. My hackintosh build is probably 5-7 years old and my mac pro before that was around the same. The jump between them was less than you’d think for my work, though there was an improvement. The biggest benefits seem to be graphics cards, which gained a lot of you take advantage of Ray Tracing etc. Music software is still a bit all over the place when it comes to multi threading, so I suspect a lot of my bottleneck is software just as much as it is hardware sometimes. Multithreading performance is much better than what it was 12 years ago, even on an old computer. So a lot of the benefits I see I’d also see on my older system in some cases, but it depends greatly on the project / session itself.
@@bubblepipemedia3414 'the last several years the speed gains just haven’t been there'
In the Windows PC world, there have been huge gains: 12th-generation Intel Alder Lake processors, and Ryzen 5000-series processors. Also, SSD drives that now run at up to 7500 megabytes/second. Which is important when video editing large 4k or 6k files.
And Apple turned their back on all that, and went with a processor from a cell phone (M1). M1 also cannot run Boot Camp with 100% Windows software compatibility. That is a HUGE loss for Mac customers.
The problem is it is a tooll for which I have no use, but it doesn't change the fact that I still wantt it! I am fighting some serious demons right now, please keep me in your prayers altough I expect to lose horrendously!
Pray to God, and He will prevent you from making a serious mistake (buying the Studio).
@@DerekDavis213 I'll pray for the M2 Studio :D
@@Cryptolorian Keep praying, while Windows people enjoy amazing power, at reasonable prices.
Tim Cook luvs guys like you.
@@DerekDavis213 I have an i7-8700 Desktop PC, a ThinkPad T14, a ThinkPad T470, an Intel NUCi58BEH... so basically I have plenty of Windows machines, but I need that arm M2 chip, I need to feel it's power efficiency, it's coolness, it's raw power. I need it all. I don't believe in Adam and Steve, only Adam and Eve, but Timmy-Nina can take my money. I refuse to fund Armani and Versace though!
get the m2 mini pro if you want a great computer
get the studio if you HAVE to have the ports
get the ULTRA if you need the fastest render/export times possible
As always, highly interesting thoughts !!!
The power button should be in the front though.
I agree. But there are probably only so many aesthetic “compromises” Apple will do. I wish it was there, but the ports are a start!
Subbed for the Interviews with Monster Girls
poster, stayed for the great review.
Hmm. I’m more of MacBook type of person but, maybe I should get a dock for storage and don’t mind about storage too….
Hi there. Thanks for the great review. Very useful. I'm going to be buying this same model with spec soon. I do a lot of video editing. Mostly on HD 1080p and on occasion 4K. I'm currently researching 27 inch monitors which are colour accurate. I only have the space and budget for only 1. I was originally looking at 4K so I can see full res playback in final exports but I'm a bit concerned about Apple OS scaling for the software windows? I would be using scaling display option as the text size for day to day will be a struggle I think. Would it be better to get a QHD 1440p monitor instead and then playback will "almost" as good but day to day use will be more easier on the eye? What monitor option did you go for? I'm currently looking at the LG 27up850-w, Lenovo ThinkVision P27u-20 and the Dell UltraSharp U2723QE. These are all 4K but would look for the QHD version instead should I go down that route instead. I would be very grateful for any of your experienced advice. Best
I went with 1440p monitors and prioritized color accuracy. The ones I have aren’t made anymore, but Dell and LG’s color accuracy claims are pretty spot on when it comes to their higher end monitors. Also, window scaling hasn’t been much of an issue for me, but I know some programs can be weird about that in macOS. Either way, the Dell and LG options you listed are solid. I don’t have enough experience with Lenovo to really comment on them though.
@@GarrettCrespo thanks for getting back to me. Much appreciated. Yes the Lenovo too has a impressive stats, pre-calibrated accuracy, a dual wide colour gamut (99.1% DCI-P3 and 99.5% Adobe RGB), and a VESA DisplayHDR 400 support. Ah OK you have 1440p ones. I imagine that you wouldn't be running scaling as no need, which is what I'm thinking might be the best. Just hope I don't miss the 4K playback.
No problems. Also, if you’re talking about 4K playback in your editing tool, that’s usually not an issue if you’re editing in one screen because the playback window is smaller anyway. Playback after the export would be the only drawback, but I haven’t had an issue with it.
@@GarrettCrespo yeah that's right Garrett. It's the full screen playback after export.
Thanks for honestly answer
Well said. Great points.
os ot för 3d game art and game dev with unreal and unity?
It can be, but you’ll be running through Rosetta 2 at the moment and you’ll be missing features like hardware accelerated ray tracing.
Good video - i am of the ‘Yes but’ version - i want to use a Studio for audio
They say that Logic Pro has all kinds of issues with Mac Studio.
One computer to rule them all one computer to drool over them all
I want one.
Me too brother ... did you end up getting one? I haven't had a functional computer in a few years and I had a dream (I'm convinced from the Lord) that I need to make music for His glory ... I'm opting for this I decided ...
Funny I should see you here! God bless! In Jesus' mighty name!
@@Limlani nope. But it’s coming.
I love watching these videos but I know this computer is way overkill for my needs. I use the M1 Mini and an M1 iPad Pro for on the go.
yep, honest review. Let me be honest too! The 24 core GPU was deemed "binned" because the batch was not passed for the basic 32 core GPU that it was designed to be, hence it should have not been put into production. However, instead of selling the faulty GpU at 1, 799.00 Apple is trying to get their investment back and sold and marketed it at $1,999 where the 32 core GPU base unit should have been! So we are effectively paying 400 bucks more for the 32 core base unit which is not an 'upgraded' but standard cpu! That's marketing! What I'm really pissed about is that now very few users consider testing the 32 core GPU as the base model, instead preferring to pay less for the Below-the -baseline one with the 24 core GpU! It's all in the name! that's business. I bought the 32 core GPU model and it's much faster than the 24 core! Apple made suckers of all of us! same with the 48 core ULTRA compared to the 64 core GPU, ETC! Is it double the output OF THE 32 CORE? Not at all, coming only close to 42% better. chips with manufacturing faults are not supposed to be sold as a cheaper version, but actually destroyed, but not in this case! every version has a BIN, may it be 20 core, 24 core 28 core or 32 core. it's a collection of passes or fails separated into different bins!
I see what you’re saying, but this is actually a practice that’s existed in the industry for decades. Intel does the exact same thing for their main Core chips. One wafer is made and the i9, i7, i5, and i3 chips are all cut from it based on the quality of the silicon yield. I have no problem with Apple doing the same considering it allows them to offer a varied price range.
Very helpful.
U got me hypedddd
A 3 months review of a product released less than 3 months ago ? Which you said you've just got in April 23rd ? 😉
Nice t-shirt btw (*⁰▿⁰*)
May have rounded up for the nice even number. I’ve been doing a lot with this thing. Lol
Great job 😉👍
Apple needs a mac mini with an M1 Pro chip.
My workflow is like my weight... heavy.
Depending on how heavy, you may want to consider a bump up to the M1 Ultra or waiting for the Mac Pro whenever that gets the Apple silicon treatment.
We pay $2600 for this machine in South Africa.
Good to know. I’ll try to specify USD when talking about currency in my future videos. Thanks!
@@GarrettCrespo No need to specify, just pointing out how we get ripped off this side.
By the time you spec up a Mac Mini, you are only $100 shy of a Studio.
Cool video.
he must be indian, he has a bindi
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extra 16 gigabytes. not the extra 32 gB. but it is ugly dude. it is ugly. it's hard to look at everyday.the os needs a rewrite cpus are not being used well enough.
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Tired of youtuber reviews, we are mostly not youtubers. Don't care about your rendering times. Rant over.
That’s why I also brought up the fact that real world use is more suited for the M1 Mac mini. I do try to focus on general use for some videos, but videos about performance have to come from what I’m super familiar with. But I get it. It can get pretty boring when RUclipsrs all bring up the same points.
@@GarrettCrespo Don't get me wrong, it is a nice review, but all I see is a hundreds of reviews of Studio for video editing. But most of us are generic users, who want to have a fast computer. I think, some of reviewers could benefit, by doing separate reviews for generic users. We want speed in everyday operations, we want many displays and we do run some virtualisation so doi need some memory.
@@teaearlgrayh0t Noted. Thanks for the constructive input!
@@teaearlgrayh0t A generic user who desires a fast computer and doesn't run Final Cut should just *avoid* the Mac entirely.
A very fast Windows PC is much cheaper, and much more capable than any Mac. Especially a Mac with M1 processor, which comes from a cell phone.
@@DerekDavis213 Poor power management and horrific sound. Non-existent resale value. No, thank you.
he turned indian! god bless him
lulz
toys and anime. sigh. a glass case of figurines. I wish modern people would grow up. I have a hard time taking people seriously with a bunch of this stuff sitting around.
This isn’t the first comment to say that and it won’t be the last. It is what it is.
Ok boomer. haha
Wow. Out come the personal attacks. What this has to do with the subjects under discussion is a mystery. If you don’t like personal choices of a reviewer, don’t watch the channel. If you feel that way, why are you here and making negative comments? Does it fulfill some need to feel superior?
I pooped into this vid and had forgotten I had commented a few months previously. In fact, this was the last Mac Studio vid I had watched after buying mine. I THEN realized, after a week or three of fine tuning my Studio for myself (under-shelf mounting, finding the right combination of external components, etc.), that I rarely even THINK about my computer. It JUST WORKS, and it does that with zero hardware drama. Zero noise (my creaky old external HD collection is another story), and zero worries. I named it Maximo. Lol.
I mounted it with the rear facing me (behind my twin monitors) so that I could access the ports when needed (much less of an issue once I sorted everything out) and there is no way to prettify my wiring nest, so it stays hidden. This is for work, not making zen YT videos. I have no regrets, I would not need or want anything upgraded on the specs I chose, nor was any choices deemed an overkill. It’s perfect for me.
Software-wise, it has some quirks with Adobe suite that I hoped would self correct by now but nothing worth getting my underoos in a knot. And even that may just be a monitor setting.
It was nice rewatching this vid with a few additional months of experience on this machine.
Just bought mine yesterday,my M1 mini power supply went pop