Excellent advice Gary, I wouldn't be without my Lightroom and Photoshop and now I can use them with out permanently clogging up the system, which has been frustrating when running memory intensive games. My M1 pro is running cooler now, Thanks
Thank you. I have reached to a final conclusion: in order for Mac to be healthy, fast and hassle-free, avoid Microsoft and Adobe products. In this case, once I bought (not subscribed to) the affinity products, I completely migrated from the money-draining products of Adobe. Besides, no more hassles about Adobe sneaky bugs, or start-ups.
FWIW, I have both Microsoft and Adobe software on my Mac. Getting the Microsoft apps from the Mac App Store means you don't need to download the cloud apps from Microsoft at all, BTW.
This is one of the reasons why I'm hoping that Affinity develop something that can replace Lightroom. I love Lightroom but hate that Adobe (and others) seem to want to track my every move presumably so they can sell me something or sell my activity trends etc. I'm not a privacy nut but its too intrusive and insidious.
First, what's wrong with using Photos? What feature of Lightroom do you like that Photos does not? Second, I'm not sure that is true about Lightroom tracking any of that.
Brilliant! Thank you! This Adobe malware is 80% of the hate in my love/hate relationship with them. I went so far as to make an external boot disk JUST FOR ADOBE because of this!!! Now, maybe I can trust Adobe on my main boot disk again.
Thanks for that! I also had to go to System Preferences > Users & Groups > Login Items and turn CC off there as well. Your tip also gave the the info I needed to stop Spotify from always loading! Its in the app preferences.
Well this process involves startup items. No need to automate because it stays that way. But I could see building a shell script or something that kills the processes once they have started. Very different thing, but possible. You'd have to carefully figure out what the processes are, and use some shell script code to convince them to quit gracefully. It may be possible but I haven't looked into it.
you can also edit the .plist files and in there set the Value "LaunchAtLogin" from true to false, as far as I can tell launching CC Apps doesn't undo this
@@TalktothehandNails you can find them in /Library/LaunchAgents;/Library/LaunchDemons;~/Library/LaunchAgents;~/Library/LaunchDemons and to edit them you need to use Xcode, or any other editor that supports the plist format, I'm using VSCode for that
Thanks for that tip Gary . My wife uses Adobe on her Mac account but I dont at all. Adobe Cloud kept turning up on my account after a restart. Ive deleted those files and its seems to have gone. Great .
wow,what an expected video !!. My m1 mac studio eats lots of RAM even the system doesnt run any usefull apps !!.Please make complete tutorial abot RAM management in m1 MAC STUDIO PLease
I just did something on this a few days ago. ruclips.net/video/WTyoSv_hpgg/видео.html As for "RAM management" there's really nothing for you to do unless there is a problem. It is for the system to manage, not you.
Thank you! Now the main memory hog for me is Safari, which keeps bogging down even though I have gigs of memory available. Is there a way to allocate memory by apps? I seem to recall being able to do this in earlier Mac OS's.
No, memory use is far too complex to be able to control it manually. When you go to Activity Monitor and look at memory, what does it show in the Memory Pressure at the bottom?
@@RetNemmoc555 If memory pressure is green, you don't need to worry. Just dismiss the message and keep going. The other numbers look perfectly good too.
@@macmost Thank you. It's time for a new Mac anyway (I'm using a 2015 MacBook). RUclips has always been a resource hog (bad memories of Adobe Flash), but Memory and CPU Load always look fine when I check. Oh well. Thanks again!
This is excellent advice and I am going to do it. Thanks. I have also downloaded some Creative Cloud apps that my Adobe subscription allows me to have but that I have not used. It seems to me that I should delete those apps -- if I ever need one of them I can download it again, but if I don't use them, as you explain it they create more bother than just take up- a relatively little space on my SSD. This is correct, isn't it? Thanks again.
I know this has been asked, but anyone know an equivalent solution for Windows? I did a little research and there are mltiple places in Windows where processes can be launched. So it's not easy to trap them. But would appreciate anyone's help.
"Inelegant way to handle it" , how elegantly said!! Would you know what are these files? I have around hundreds of them in my Library/Logs/NGL NGLclient_CoreSync...log. or NGLclient_CCLlibrary....log I only use Ltr a few times a months, i disabled what you suggested, but i looked at the Cache and i found these, every one of those files are between 2KB-101KB, so if im having hundreds of them, then it takes quit a bit of space on my laptop, isnt it? Do i really need them? Thank you!!
I have this same issue, Creative cloud has 12 programs running in the background. I use Photoshop and Illustrator everyday so based on your video I need these running all the time. However, because it's so many background program, it pushes my PC to the point of crashing REALLY OFTEN. Is it really necessary to have them running all the time? I'm not using the adobe programs right now and those 12 PROGRAMS ARE STILL RUNING IN THE BACKGROUND. Three of them are the same one "Creative Cloud UI Helper" I tried to end the task but nothing happens, all three of them immediately reappear.
Gary, how is removing the plist files from Library different from deselecting the background processes that are associated with Adobe that appear in Settings/General/Login Items?
In my “launch agents” there are a few files but none of them have to do with apple, and I don’t have a “launch daemons” folder. Yet, I do have all the creative cloud processes running. Any other suggestions?
@@austriadiamolo is there a reason you need to stop it? The idea here is to stop the heavy Adobe Creative Cloud stuff from running if you don’t use CC all the time. But maybe this process is something that isn’t so heavy.
You need the windows server. It is the system displaying the windows you are looking at. It should use a lot of memory. Your memory is there to be used and this is one of the primary things you are doing with your Mac.
Super late to the party but here you go anyway! If it's getting crazy high: logging out and back in will reset it. It's an ongoing issue with a lot of people tbh.
Adobe must be one of worst piece software ever created it literally takes over computer.
It's like a virus
Yeahh
Excellent advice Gary, I wouldn't be without my Lightroom and Photoshop and now I can use them with out permanently clogging up the system, which has been frustrating when running memory intensive games. My M1 pro is running cooler now, Thanks
Thank you very much. As a Dj it is best to stop anything running in the background in order for the software to run smoothly.
Thank you. I have reached to a final conclusion: in order for Mac to be healthy, fast and hassle-free, avoid Microsoft and Adobe products. In this case, once I bought (not subscribed to) the affinity products, I completely migrated from the money-draining products of Adobe. Besides, no more hassles about Adobe sneaky bugs, or start-ups.
FWIW, I have both Microsoft and Adobe software on my Mac. Getting the Microsoft apps from the Mac App Store means you don't need to download the cloud apps from Microsoft at all, BTW.
Yep. Got rid of Adobe photoshop and illustrator for Affinity a few years ago and my laptop runs 1000x better.
This is one of the reasons why I'm hoping that Affinity develop something that can replace Lightroom. I love Lightroom but hate that Adobe (and others) seem to want to track my every move presumably so they can sell me something or sell my activity trends etc. I'm not a privacy nut but its too intrusive and insidious.
First, what's wrong with using Photos? What feature of Lightroom do you like that Photos does not? Second, I'm not sure that is true about Lightroom tracking any of that.
@@macmost Photos app is great! So fast and convenient
Brilliant! Thank you! This Adobe malware is 80% of the hate in my love/hate relationship with them. I went so far as to make an external boot disk JUST FOR ADOBE because of this!!! Now, maybe I can trust Adobe on my main boot disk again.
Gary truly understands Mac users!
Thanks for that! I also had to go to System Preferences > Users & Groups > Login Items and turn CC off there as well. Your tip also gave the the info I needed to stop Spotify from always loading! Its in the app preferences.
I actually think just doing this fixed it for me... at least until I open any adobe app. Thanks!
A very useful and informative video tutorial today! Thank you, Gary! 👏🏻❤️
Thanks. This has been bugging me for years. I hated having to manually close them in the activity monitor every time I started up my mac.
I uninstalled Adobe Cloud and the problem was gone. Not recommended for those who need it.
Do you automate this process? I can imagine a script that cleans these out whenever Adobe is shut down so don’t have to redo it manually all the time.
Well this process involves startup items. No need to automate because it stays that way. But I could see building a shell script or something that kills the processes once they have started. Very different thing, but possible. You'd have to carefully figure out what the processes are, and use some shell script code to convince them to quit gracefully. It may be possible but I haven't looked into it.
Thank you Gary for your clear concise, helpful (and trusted) opinions.
you can also edit the .plist files and in there set the Value "LaunchAtLogin" from true to false, as far as I can tell launching CC Apps doesn't undo this
Can u quickly share how to find and edit those files? Would be super appreciated!
@@TalktothehandNails you can find them in /Library/LaunchAgents;/Library/LaunchDemons;~/Library/LaunchAgents;~/Library/LaunchDemons and to edit them you need to use Xcode, or any other editor that supports the plist format, I'm using VSCode for that
@@chryslerxc thanks for the response!
Why does Adobe even make it run in the background automatically? It feels like it's just made to piss you off
Thanks Gary. Really sped up my startup time. I've done the same with most of the Microsoft apps for items I no longer use like One Drive and Teams.
Any recommendations for how to do this on Windows 10?
Same :(
Thanks for that tip Gary . My wife uses Adobe on her Mac account but I dont at all. Adobe Cloud kept turning up on my account after a restart. Ive deleted those files and its seems to have gone. Great .
Thank you!!!
Yasss!!! I hate the *concept* of Adobe taking over my computer. No, go away. Great tip!
Me who's on windows: *Interesting...*
wow,what an expected video !!. My m1 mac studio eats lots of RAM even the system doesnt run any usefull apps !!.Please make complete tutorial abot RAM management in m1 MAC STUDIO PLease
I just did something on this a few days ago. ruclips.net/video/WTyoSv_hpgg/видео.html As for "RAM management" there's really nothing for you to do unless there is a problem. It is for the system to manage, not you.
Simple and to the point. Very nice - thank you!
Genius solution!
Best solution by far 🙏🏽🙏🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Thank you! Now the main memory hog for me is Safari, which keeps bogging down even though I have gigs of memory available. Is there a way to allocate memory by apps? I seem to recall being able to do this in earlier Mac OS's.
No, memory use is far too complex to be able to control it manually. When you go to Activity Monitor and look at memory, what does it show in the Memory Pressure at the bottom?
@@macmost Just reproduced the Safari warning (RUclips scrolling comments): "This webpage is using significant energy." Memory Pressure: Green bar one-third high. Phys. Memory: 8.00 GB; Memory Used*: 5.92 GB; Cached Files: 2.01 GB; Swap Used 112.5 MB.
*App Memory: 3.11 GB; Wired Memory 1.98 GB; Compressed: 876.8 MB
@@RetNemmoc555 If memory pressure is green, you don't need to worry. Just dismiss the message and keep going. The other numbers look perfectly good too.
@@macmost Thank you. It's time for a new Mac anyway (I'm using a 2015 MacBook). RUclips has always been a resource hog (bad memories of Adobe Flash), but Memory and CPU Load always look fine when I check. Oh well. Thanks again!
Thanks a lot! That was exactly what I needed (-: You're just on point.
finally a solution - Thanks
so helpful information thank you Gary
Super helpful thank you!
Thanks bunches
This is excellent advice and I am going to do it. Thanks. I have also downloaded some Creative Cloud apps that my Adobe subscription allows me to have but that I have not used. It seems to me that I should delete those apps -- if I ever need one of them I can download it again, but if I don't use them, as you explain it they create more bother than just take up- a relatively little space on my SSD. This is correct, isn't it? Thanks again.
Yes. If you are not using the apps then use the Creative Cloud main app to uninstall them. Download again if you ever need them.
Thank you sir!
I know this has been asked, but anyone know an equivalent solution for Windows? I did a little research and there are mltiple places in Windows where processes can be launched. So it's not easy to trap them. But would appreciate anyone's help.
"Inelegant way to handle it" , how elegantly said!!
Would you know what are these files? I have around hundreds of them in my Library/Logs/NGL
NGLclient_CoreSync...log. or NGLclient_CCLlibrary....log
I only use Ltr a few times a months, i disabled what you suggested, but i looked at the Cache and i found these, every one of those files are between 2KB-101KB, so if im having hundreds of them, then it takes quit a bit of space on my laptop, isnt it? Do i really need them?
Thank you!!
No idea, but they are in Library/Logs so they should be safe to delete.
@@macmost deleted. Thank you!
window version?
I have this same issue, Creative cloud has 12 programs running in the background. I use Photoshop and Illustrator everyday so based on your video I need these running all the time. However, because it's so many background program, it pushes my PC to the point of crashing REALLY OFTEN.
Is it really necessary to have them running all the time? I'm not using the adobe programs right now and those 12 PROGRAMS ARE STILL RUNING IN THE BACKGROUND. Three of them are the same one "Creative Cloud UI Helper"
I tried to end the task but nothing happens, all three of them immediately reappear.
It is annoying having this running, but it shouldn't cause things to crash.
Gary, how is removing the plist files from Library different from deselecting the background processes that are associated with Adobe that appear in Settings/General/Login Items?
It should be the same. This video was created in the Monterey era. You are obviously using Ventura. The expanded Login Items was new in Ventura.
How do you do this on a windows pc?
how do you do this on windows?
In my “launch agents” there are a few files but none of them have to do with apple, and I don’t have a “launch daemons” folder. Yet, I do have all the creative cloud processes running. Any other suggestions?
Did you check in all of the places I mentioned?
I wonder what is the difference between the folders LaunchDaemons and LaunchAgents folder?
LaunchDaemons is supposed to be for items starting when you boot, LaunchAgents for when you login to your account.
@@macmost Oh, great inside! Thanks!
Does this apply to Adobe Acrobat also? Does that require Creative Cloud?
Not sure if there is a stand-alone Acrobat today or not, but this is about Creative Cloud.
@@macmost Ah, it appears that it is now part of Creative Cloud. Thanks for your videos--they are consistently great.
The only thing that's left is "Adobe Content Synchronizer Finder Extension (672)" but I deleted every launch thing. Anybody know how to fix?
Did you reboot and see if it is still running?
@@macmost Yes everything else is gone except this one.
@@austriadiamolo is there a reason you need to stop it? The idea here is to stop the heavy Adobe Creative Cloud stuff from running if you don’t use CC all the time. But maybe this process is something that isn’t so heavy.
@@macmost only takes 6 mb so it’s ok but I was wondering how this one thing is still there
Legend!
Other than Adobe there are other apps too.Can we delete those too.
You'd have to research what those are, what launch items are used to trigger them, and then figure out the consequences of doing that.
@@macmost OK Thank you.
Most of the time we also see windows server utilising most of the Memory is there any solution.
You need the windows server. It is the system displaying the windows you are looking at. It should use a lot of memory. Your memory is there to be used and this is one of the primary things you are doing with your Mac.
Super late to the party but here you go anyway! If it's getting crazy high: logging out and back in will reset it. It's an ongoing issue with a lot of people tbh.
you can actually do it from settings
Do you mean now, in Ventura? Yes, there are new options there. But this is from before Ventura.
@@macmost oh
I really hate Adobe background apps running all the time.
Any suggestions on how to do this on Windows 11?
Sorry, asking the wrong guy that.