The amount of stuff like this happening is crazy. Why start up a business if you don’t know anything about copyright laws and theft. I saw an artist who confronted a company like this, but the company blocked the artist. Super scummy. HIRE ARTISTS!!
Reminds me of the most egregious theft I saw right on this very site: Dude got his whole video stolen, filed a correct copyright claim on the thief, theif's vid gets taken down, theif emails the creator (approx words) "don't be selfish bruh Im just paying my rent" - a single sentence with a frowny face. As if the video's creator wasn't also trying to pay his rent using the video's income!! Art thieves are so backwards man.
@@0nepotentialI don’t think you understand the scale of how much AI steals. It’s really not equivalent to how much was stolen before, even if the numbers were always staggering. It’s leagues worse now.
@@div3345 there are STILL people who will just blatantly copy without using ai. I understand ai has made it worse but how are you ignoring that it can be done without it still???
This is why I don't post my art anymore... Not that my art is anywhere near worth stealing but my heart breaks for the artists this sort of thing happens to.
This reminds me of one of my early web designs being stolen by a guy in Florida that was using it to promote his 'design services' there. The amount of excuses he made, apologies and promises to take it down....
grown adults, mind you! I’ve had creations of mine stolen/copied by kids but really only a handful of them act like this. so how is the average kid more mature than that guy?
My friend worked as a graphic, her job was to make higher resolution of logos that restaurants used before they could put it on the website. She got like some anime character traced I don't remember who. When she laughed nervously and she mailed the restaurant for giving her some clarification they have authors permissions. They. SEND. her. A permission given by A PERSON WHO TRACED IT. People who are never drawn anything acts like they don't know how it works
oh no, I wonder if this is an effect of late stage ai. I wonder if because of companies realizing ai isn't that profitable, they're resorting to theft after firing all their artists. Even if this isn't happening right now, this could be a future consequence of ai becoming less mainstream or I'm just clinically insane
Art theft has always been a thing. Art is the most in demand service there is, but because it's expensive and time consuming, there will always exist ways to undercut, undermine, and devalue art to gain attention or make the most profit off of related products/content. Even before AI, people believed artists weren't deserving of fair pay, or that, because of how needed art is, they're entitled to that labor and for an artist to demand pay instead being content with doing something that they love is offensive. Trying to find new and innovative ways to cut artists out of the equation will unfortunately always be practiced and AI is only the newest way to so. The inevitable, and highly anticipated, downfall of AI won't solve all of our problems, but hopefully it will be a step in the right direction in helping people learn how to value art and artists alike. Or people will just think up other ways to scam us out of our labor and content 🫠
Now it's gotten to the point where art thieves don't even understand that they're stealing? Seriously? I don't spend time looking for people using my art, so I've only found one piece being used illegally...but all they had to do was credit me, which they promised to do. But I forgot which channel used it, and which video. I ought to do a few reverse image searches, but what's the point? Thieves will refuse to behave, and I haven't the energy to fight anymore. At least, if they take anything now, it's been poisoned.
Honest question: what reasons are there to keep posting art online these days? I have completely lost interest since social media and the people using them don't focus on making like-minded friends and meaningful human connections anymore. I'm a professional illustrator and graphic designer who stopped posting in summer 2023 and am going to delete most of my accounts by the end of this year.
Well, you need recognition for your art to be able to grow your audience so that they engage and buy your artworks. And this is also just one of the aspects
@augustalla thank you for responding to me! :) What other aspects are there? Is becoming a small business the only way to be an artist? And wouldn't what you have described work in person as well? (for me it has, I have gotten the overwhelming majority of my art related workplaces, clients and customers in person. Same for my art galleries where I showcased my work, I applied directly to them). I think gaining an online audience is more of an unpredictable lottery win because of how most of the feeds/tools on social media work these days. It also doesn't guarantee sales of any kind. I've had accounts with up to 6k followers and felt more pressured than anything by it, it's just not for me! I respect and admire everyone who is comfortable with it, sticks to it and finds success in it, it's an insane amount of extra work.
I'd say there's reasons for a fanartist - I've had good experience with finding community there - but if you do original stuff then that'd probably be more difficult for that sort of thing these days. You don't have that built in connection of enjoying the same thing, so it's always seemed like the more difficult route for sharing online. That's how it's looked from my viewpoint, anyway
@winterdoggo ooh good point, I can see that :D yeah, when you're active in fandoms, social media must be a fun and exciting place to share your art and ideas with others! This used to be a frequent thing for people who were into their own OCs too :') I assume it's not as common anymore because I haven't found it again in many years... 10+ years ago, I had a bunch of online art friends just based on getting excited over each other's fictional worlds and OCs, drawing each other's characters in our styles, etc. It was amazing xD
Glad you're out here pointing out art theft. I wish it wasn't 1000x worse now thanks to genAI, but at least we can do our best to spot it, point it out and try to protect actual art and artists.
I honestly think part of the pervasiveness of the problem is artists not organising like they should. I’d never post work online without first joining a copyright organisation (these things are global, there’s multiple around the world, and they are very cheap. at least on eu income). When your recourse is ‘i will smear you with my followers and maybe someone will make a video about it’, that’s such an amount of work for one scammer who might not even feel the need to react. In the meantime you can just send one threatening email and let an org follow up on it if necessary. I just cannot comprehend why anyone would subject themselves to reasoning with these people when they know from the start they’re dishonest. When you are an artist, you are not alone. Not just as in you and your followers or your friends, there are artists all over the world dealing with the same shit, and thus there are solutions you can take, and you SHOULD look through them even as a small artist. You can bet your ass that if you have to expose yourself to STDs (scammers, thieves, dishonesty), someone made an internet condom already and it’s waiting for you out there.
*Of course it’d be nice if we didn’t have to do extra things on the account of other people being shitty, but that’s just a fact of life. If we didn’t have other people being shitty, we wouldn’t need doors with locks. But here we are~
I assume it might not be their battle to fight by law? As far as I know, only the copyright holder can claim the copied content to be taken down and/or sue the thief in these situations? But if anyone reading this knows better, please correct me if I'm wrong!
Vast majority of population also unfortunately does not care. They see, for example, phone case with cool art, they'll buy, especially if cheap. That's why they also like AI "art". For them it looks already perfect. Is not as expensive as human artists' artworks, that in their opinion, are overpricing their work. And is faster than, in their opinion, "lazy" human artists. Brutal truth is, artist were never really respected, only by small amount of people. A saying "starving artist" didn't appear out if nowhere. So yeah, I realized is what AI will remove, is the ability to make money from art. But it'll not kill art, it'll be, like it was always, a small community.
We are talking about design here, not art; and yes, overwhelmingly most people are fine with AI stuff on phone cases or everyday usage objects. It’s foolish to try to fight this. No matter from which direction or with which moral/idealistic etc framework one approaches this, artists simply cannot compete with this. Actual (higher) art is going to be fine; it has always been about novel ideas and creativity - something, generative AI utterly fails at. But yes, the 207th iteration on “anime boy with blue hair looking edgy commission ” might be hard to monetize going forward. In any case, I am not really stoked about the future of this, despite some clear positives. tl,dr: art is gonna be fine, “cool looking stuff” won’t.
looks more like it was copied while lookng at it, if you notice, the shape of the teeth and ear folds are different. Still no excuse to blatantly copy the art though. They did draw it. It's not a 1 to 1 layover, but they could have at least said they used it as a 1 to 1 ref same with the other image, they drew it, but they copied it verbatim. the star in his eye is also different - if you lay them ontop of eachother they aren't the same lines. But definitely same layout, style, and pose. It 100% was copied by looking at it.
@@Sedge2 if you lay them ontop of eachother, the lines don't match up at all. It's not traced. They looked at it and drew it. They didn't copy /paste or trace it. I know how to detect tracing art, and this isn't it - the angles of some of the lines, the different sections, some of the lengths of things, the distance between smaller sections, it all points to Artist B looked at Artists A's work, and is lying about it, and they drew it
Yo Wasabi, there’s this whole situation with this person called SabinaBeedraws and they’re talking about this person that is using AI art in their process and is like full on denying it 😅it’s on RUclips rn
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reminding me of that scene that was like
"play stupid"
"NOT THAT STUPID"
Spiderman into the spiderverse where miles morales where he says
Play dumb
Not that dumb
*(play dumb!)*
"whos Miles?"
*(NOT THAT DUMB!)*
@J-BIRD000”whos morales?”
The amount of stuff like this happening is crazy. Why start up a business if you don’t know anything about copyright laws and theft.
I saw an artist who confronted a company like this, but the company blocked the artist. Super scummy.
HIRE ARTISTS!!
Tell them to sue
@@grimlocked472 some countries don't have copyright law
"please understand that i spent time to make this box and i deserve to use your art."
lol
Reminds me of the most egregious theft I saw right on this very site: Dude got his whole video stolen, filed a correct copyright claim on the thief, theif's vid gets taken down, theif emails the creator (approx words) "don't be selfish bruh Im just paying my rent" - a single sentence with a frowny face. As if the video's creator wasn't also trying to pay his rent using the video's income!! Art thieves are so backwards man.
@@conspiracypanda1200 lmao yeah
@@conspiracypanda1200 yea I remember watching something like that!
Art theft and the thief fights back as if they are entitled to every image on the internet, a tale as old as (internet) time.
Only person intitled to wvery image ever is me. At least i dont repost them i just keep them in a folder and look at them when im sad.
art theft happens literally every seconds now """thanks""" to ai
great
Art theft was rampant long before AI came to existence.
@@0nepotentialI don’t think you understand the scale of how much AI steals. It’s really not equivalent to how much was stolen before, even if the numbers were always staggering. It’s leagues worse now.
@@0nepotential it was bad, but now its much worse
@@div3345 there are STILL people who will just blatantly copy without using ai. I understand ai has made it worse but how are you ignoring that it can be done without it still???
This is why I don't post my art anymore...
Not that my art is anywhere near worth stealing but my heart breaks for the artists this sort of thing happens to.
They disabled comments on all their instagram posts after the apology in their stories... Feeling guilty suddenly?
This reminds me of one of my early web designs being stolen by a guy in Florida that was using it to promote his 'design services' there. The amount of excuses he made, apologies and promises to take it down....
ppl should learn copyright at school lol
Yeah 💯, copyright should be added to the syllabus
They actually do. I am and we had a 1week of in depth look at law for artists, and our teacher was an actual lawyer.
@@JuhoSprite either lucky or its normal where you are
@htoaletaarxidatet wdym lucky? Also I guess we have a better education system here in Europe compared to America. education is free here lol.
@@JuhoSprite what country? i am in europe too........ i do think we have some lessons similar to yours here though...
That's actually wild that they thought they HAD A CHANCE at gaslighting that artist into thinking they didn't make THEIR OWN WORK!!! What idiots 💀💀💀
grown adults, mind you! I’ve had creations of mine stolen/copied by kids but really only a handful of them act like this. so how is the average kid more mature than that guy?
@LiterallyAllNamesAreTaken frrr
“I’ve never seen this art in my life”
Bro really pulled out the most cliche possible line criminals use 💀💀💀
My friend worked as a graphic, her job was to make higher resolution of logos that restaurants used before they could put it on the website. She got like some anime character traced I don't remember who. When she laughed nervously and she mailed the restaurant for giving her some clarification they have authors permissions. They. SEND. her.
A permission given by A PERSON WHO TRACED IT.
People who are never drawn anything acts like they don't know how it works
oh no, I wonder if this is an effect of late stage ai. I wonder if because of companies realizing ai isn't that profitable, they're resorting to theft after firing all their artists. Even if this isn't happening right now, this could be a future consequence of ai becoming less mainstream
or I'm just clinically insane
this is not late stage ai, it is still growing and is popular. some ppl just decide to steal too
I don’t think it’s because of AI. Even before AI became mainstream, some people would steal art of others and pretend it was theirs.
@tensai-a-san but that's a company's doing not an individual
And some DUMB BITCH will not stand against them for biased reasons
Art theft has always been a thing. Art is the most in demand service there is, but because it's expensive and time consuming, there will always exist ways to undercut, undermine, and devalue art to gain attention or make the most profit off of related products/content. Even before AI, people believed artists weren't deserving of fair pay, or that, because of how needed art is, they're entitled to that labor and for an artist to demand pay instead being content with doing something that they love is offensive. Trying to find new and innovative ways to cut artists out of the equation will unfortunately always be practiced and AI is only the newest way to so.
The inevitable, and highly anticipated, downfall of AI won't solve all of our problems, but hopefully it will be a step in the right direction in helping people learn how to value art and artists alike.
Or people will just think up other ways to scam us out of our labor and content 🫠
Now it's gotten to the point where art thieves don't even understand that they're stealing? Seriously?
I don't spend time looking for people using my art, so I've only found one piece being used illegally...but all they had to do was credit me, which they promised to do. But I forgot which channel used it, and which video. I ought to do a few reverse image searches, but what's the point? Thieves will refuse to behave, and I haven't the energy to fight anymore. At least, if they take anything now, it's been poisoned.
Honest question: what reasons are there to keep posting art online these days?
I have completely lost interest since social media and the people using them don't focus on making like-minded friends and meaningful human connections anymore. I'm a professional illustrator and graphic designer who stopped posting in summer 2023 and am going to delete most of my accounts by the end of this year.
Well, you need recognition for your art to be able to grow your audience so that they engage and buy your artworks. And this is also just one of the aspects
@augustalla thank you for responding to me! :)
What other aspects are there?
Is becoming a small business the only way to be an artist? And wouldn't what you have described work in person as well? (for me it has, I have gotten the overwhelming majority of my art related workplaces, clients and customers in person. Same for my art galleries where I showcased my work, I applied directly to them).
I think gaining an online audience is more of an unpredictable lottery win because of how most of the feeds/tools on social media work these days. It also doesn't guarantee sales of any kind. I've had accounts with up to 6k followers and felt more pressured than anything by it, it's just not for me! I respect and admire everyone who is comfortable with it, sticks to it and finds success in it, it's an insane amount of extra work.
I'd say there's reasons for a fanartist - I've had good experience with finding community there - but if you do original stuff then that'd probably be more difficult for that sort of thing these days. You don't have that built in connection of enjoying the same thing, so it's always seemed like the more difficult route for sharing online. That's how it's looked from my viewpoint, anyway
@winterdoggo ooh good point, I can see that :D yeah, when you're active in fandoms, social media must be a fun and exciting place to share your art and ideas with others! This used to be a frequent thing for people who were into their own OCs too :') I assume it's not as common anymore because I haven't found it again in many years... 10+ years ago, I had a bunch of online art friends just based on getting excited over each other's fictional worlds and OCs, drawing each other's characters in our styles, etc. It was amazing xD
@@augustalla I understand that it helps but there's got to be a way to do it without social media. People did it before without it, why can't we now?
art theft SUCKS !!!!!!!!
Art theft is already such a shitty thing to do, but the lack of remorse in private conversation vs their public "apology" is infuriating. Wow.
This is what happened when many Pinterest posts never give credit to the original creatorĺ
I hope the artist still takes legal action.
Glad you're out here pointing out art theft. I wish it wasn't 1000x worse now thanks to genAI, but at least we can do our best to spot it, point it out and try to protect actual art and artists.
I honestly think part of the pervasiveness of the problem is artists not organising like they should. I’d never post work online without first joining a copyright organisation (these things are global, there’s multiple around the world, and they are very cheap. at least on eu income). When your recourse is ‘i will smear you with my followers and maybe someone will make a video about it’, that’s such an amount of work for one scammer who might not even feel the need to react. In the meantime you can just send one threatening email and let an org follow up on it if necessary. I just cannot comprehend why anyone would subject themselves to reasoning with these people when they know from the start they’re dishonest.
When you are an artist, you are not alone. Not just as in you and your followers or your friends, there are artists all over the world dealing with the same shit, and thus there are solutions you can take, and you SHOULD look through them even as a small artist. You can bet your ass that if you have to expose yourself to STDs (scammers, thieves, dishonesty), someone made an internet condom already and it’s waiting for you out there.
*Of course it’d be nice if we didn’t have to do extra things on the account of other people being shitty, but that’s just a fact of life. If we didn’t have other people being shitty, we wouldn’t need doors with locks. But here we are~
Ah yes! I love art theft, it’s so awesome
I hate it a lot
i sure also do love works being stolen -_-
They were probably thinking: if I don’t steal your art, someone else will. It’s the level of morality the world has these days.
it's super scummy but I often wonder if social media platforms just do nothing because it's fanart and not the OG artists own IP.
I assume it might not be their battle to fight by law? As far as I know, only the copyright holder can claim the copied content to be taken down and/or sue the thief in these situations? But if anyone reading this knows better, please correct me if I'm wrong!
Vast majority of population also unfortunately does not care. They see, for example, phone case with cool art, they'll buy, especially if cheap. That's why they also like AI "art". For them it looks already perfect. Is not as expensive as human artists' artworks, that in their opinion, are overpricing their work. And is faster than, in their opinion, "lazy" human artists. Brutal truth is, artist were never really respected, only by small amount of people. A saying "starving artist" didn't appear out if nowhere. So yeah, I realized is what AI will remove, is the ability to make money from art. But it'll not kill art, it'll be, like it was always, a small community.
We are talking about design here, not art; and yes, overwhelmingly most people are fine with AI stuff on phone cases or everyday usage objects. It’s foolish to try to fight this. No matter from which direction or with which moral/idealistic etc framework one approaches this, artists simply cannot compete with this. Actual (higher) art is going to be fine; it has always been about novel ideas and creativity - something, generative AI utterly fails at. But yes, the 207th iteration on “anime boy with blue hair looking edgy commission ” might be hard to monetize going forward.
In any case, I am not really stoked about the future of this, despite some clear positives.
tl,dr: art is gonna be fine, “cool looking stuff” won’t.
The gaslighting is crazy
Ah yes, parallel thinking.
This is like what scares me out of posting my art
As an artist this is... eugh. Clearly people just don't have creativity now.
1st. the man the myth and the legend. already back at it again
The dellusion at this point i fear if i lie to myself and others enough maybe itll be true mentality.
looks more like it was copied while lookng at it, if you notice, the shape of the teeth and ear folds are different. Still no excuse to blatantly copy the art though. They did draw it. It's not a 1 to 1 layover, but they could have at least said they used it as a 1 to 1 ref same with the other image, they drew it, but they copied it verbatim. the star in his eye is also different - if you lay them ontop of eachother they aren't the same lines. But definitely same layout, style, and pose. It 100% was copied by looking at it.
it looks like it was traced, too many telltale signs
@@Sedge2 if you lay them ontop of eachother, the lines don't match up at all. It's not traced. They looked at it and drew it. They didn't copy /paste or trace it. I know how to detect tracing art, and this isn't it - the angles of some of the lines, the different sections, some of the lengths of things, the distance between smaller sections, it all points to Artist B looked at Artists A's work, and is lying about it, and they drew it
@@GamerKittyEuphoric ohh shit i didnt overlay them like that, good eye
SOUL EATER MENTIONED
Same energy as when Aaron Carter stole art for his hackneyed wares and went on being absolutely shitty to the artist.
Please look into League of Legends Samira AI art emote drama!
Yo Wasabi, there’s this whole situation with this person called SabinaBeedraws and they’re talking about this person that is using AI art in their process and is like full on denying it 😅it’s on RUclips rn
big day for the unemployed
bro is not slick
1000th view
Maybe they have used AI and this was its output. This can happen, no ai image maker is in safe because of this.
Dude its the same LINE TO LINE. Even my blurredass vision can see that
That's no excuse
You artists are so protective over anyone else's ideas but your own.
what
@shartediting copyright your shit or stfu.
What do you even mean bro 😭
@Feddy816 copyright your shit or stfu about art theft.
Mate does not even understand his own comment lol.