Minato Vs. Fugaku who WINS?!?
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He was a high ranking Jonin. He would have lots of connections to other people and teams in the leaf. He may have even had a Gennin team a time or two. Fugaku was ingrained in the village that Sasuke never was.
Or Madara, for that matter.
I LOVE this! You are such a compelling storyteller and theorist.
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Finally a comment not being as- i mean depressing commenting
Same
I honestly don't think that black Zetsu would could manipulate Fugaku that easily. Black Zetsu manipulated loners like Madara or Obito but Fugaku not only has a wife, children and probably at least a couple of friends, he's also loyal to Konoha only being forced into the position of coup leader because he was clan head at the time and the rest of the Uchiha were pissed off. So I doubt Black Zetsu could manipulate him before that point at least.
Someone as intelligent as Zetsu definitely could, especially if he stays with him for years in preparation and obviously he won't manipulate him the same way he did Madara. I could see this happening in some way or the other
Agreed, he'd have to manipulate Fugaku THROUGH the rest of the clan, with his desire to protect them all pushing him to making hard decisions in the face of them being stupid and violent. Though perhaps him being a reincarnation of Indra would have made him more bitter and willing to cause pain in service to his goals, which would make him more susceptible to Black Zetsu's influence? In any case, Fugaku is NOT an avenger like his kids.
To be honest I don't think black zetus could influence Fugaku a lot but maybe a little bit but not fully
madara and obito were losers ?
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I can’t imagine the work that goes into compiling your stories! Well done and I think they need to hire people like you to come up with alternate stories to make more anime!
I still baffles me that Black Zetsu never tried to get Uchiha and Senju clans to marry. It would have been easier to bring the chakra together that way
Maybe, if they marry there's no cycle of hatred so no ashura and Indra reincarnation.
Asura and indra can't reincarnate in same body wtf
@@SASMADBRUV7more bond more potential hatred awakening you know
ThTs the problem with a huge retcon….
Inter marriage resolves conflict so no use for black zetsu. Rinnegan might awaken in the offspring but why would he go in with infinite tsukoyomi plan
I love your What Ifs! You are definitely the best when coming up with what ifs and I hope you do more!!
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This sounds like an interesting take. I’m actually interested to see more of Fugaku. We know he was deadly and held in the same regard as people like minato, sakumo, and jiraiya. We’ve seen a decent bit of Minato over the years but nothing of fugaku. We only know that even Itachi was hesitant to face him which says a lot. I could see Fugaku still going down the path of revenge. Fugaku vs Minato would be an interesting battle. Would reaper death seal really be enough considering it couldn’t even take the full might of Kurama? Still thought this what it was cool
His death is one of my favorite in the show. “I will not engage my son in a death battle, our ideologies are different but i respect my sons conviction.” And then just sits there and doesn’t fight it. Baller move.
oh, definitely, Fugaku's character has a lot of potential for exploration. It would be fascinating to see a battle between Fugaku and Minato, considering their respective skills and reputations.
It's not that it couldn't take Kurama, it's that, when Minato used it against him, Minato was on the verge of death, so his chakra pool was the lowest it could have been.
The way Reaper Death Seal works is a battle of Tug-of-war. Whomever has the larger chakra pool is the winner. I'm almost positive that Minato in this theoretical timeline would've had enough chakra, alongside Kurama and his own senjutsu abilities, to match and surpass Juugaku, especially if Juugaku was going to allow the RDS to take him without a fight.
@@Megidramon that's a valid point. In a theoretical scenario where Minato had a larger chakra pool, combined with Kurama and his senjutsu abilities, he could potentially match and surpass Juugaku in a battle of Tug-of-war with the Reaper Death Seal.
Hopefully we will see more of him in minato manga. Hopefully sakumo too
Pretty good video and if I could just offer one change, I would have had Black Zetsu approach Danzo and manipulate him to get Fugaku into the position he would need him.
Cliffnotes would be Danzo pulls off the Nine tails attack, blames the Uchiha while undermining Minato's efforts to patch things up. He organises the massacre, BZ tells Fugaku some of this, revealing just how much Danzo did while leaving himself out of it, Mikoto awakens an MS, the Uchiha battle in the village but are forced out with Fugaku getting two things. His dying wife giving him her MS so he awakens EMS, and Minato's blood.
So like how Madara hated Tobirama for his brother's death, Fugaku now hates the leaf for the death of his clansmen and his wife. He's now much more agreeable to the eye of the moon plan as it'll mean an end to current world and be a world where his family is whole again.
If I find your email(if its something that is available to fans) I'll send you the longer version as I would like to hear what you think of Danzo's own conniving and cruel nature being used to kickstart the blood feud of this current age between the two reincarnations
Not gonna lie, this video is so good that there should be a spin-off/ rewrite telling this story. 😎💥
The abuse of children in the Naruto verse seems astronomical but haven't you noticed the abuse of Uzumaki especially was frightening? Naruto had a tail beast inserted, kushina was sent (forced to live in konoha) to have a tailed beast the same for Mito, Nagato had Rinnegan jammed into his eyes, Karin was a battery replenisher (bite toy) and the rest of the clan murdered 😮
Later on in boruto momoshiki also used Naruto as a battery 😂
@@obsidianquill7949and forced himself into a child's body
this is arguably one of the best videos you've put out in a long time, nick
it got quite emotional at times
10/10
i loved it
Big man with a beard in the sky? Does Hagoromo have a beard? Huh... He does. Neat.
I feel as if Kakashi would’ve been far more impactful here. He still has Kamui, but doesn’t go into a depressive slump from killing Rin, thus still wanting to train. Plus, he and Rin likely end up together, giving him something extra to fight and train for. In this universe, arguably the greatest prodigy in the history of Naruto probably doesn’t get rusty like he was at the beginning of part 1. He also gets more time to train and spar with Minato. I see him mastering Kamui way sooner, and having Itachi and Shisui around would help dramatically in terms of mastery and longevity of his MS. Idk I think he’d easily be up there with the strongest people in konoha.
Would he though? I've understood it to be that Obito seeing Rin die is the reason the MS awakened, it just so happened that the eyes were still "connected" so even though Kakashi had one of his eyes it was only possible because Obito lived. If Obito dies and Rin survives Kakashi would have a 3 tomoe but no MS in this universe. I may be legit understanding it wrong so it's an honest question on my end.
Honestly it’s so much better to see a full, long form explanation like this than just your TikTok’s
Dude! That was absolute 🔥fire🔥! I would love to see that series! Possibly more appealing than the cannon universe!
problem with uchiha clan just up and leaving like that would be every single enemy village would attack and take and kill the uchiha like they don’t have the strength at that point in time to really defend against another uzamaki situation ie 3 ninja villages team up to destroy them that’s not even saying if konoha with the uchiha knowing multiple highly valuable intelligence and ect they would even be allowed to leave i think it was situation of when u join the village u join for life as anyone deserting would be forever seen as untrustworthy actual one of the reasons i hate sasuke is him just being allowed back in along with orochimaru don’t care he help still experimented on children
Biggest Changes overlooked are probably Orochimaru & the Uzumaki's (got some story add ons bellow too )
The Uzumaki that sought refuge in the village hidden in the grass. probably wouldn't die... because there's now strong enough shinobi that being the Uchiha to ward off the assailants & prevent them from being butchered, which happened around this point in the timeline, when K13 & karin were just born.
at the VERY LEAST Karin & her mother would have survived, cause she wouldn't be drained empty.
And that means they would potentially have joined them to their cause.... theyve been hunted for years. many of them would want a world of unending peace and happiness. lives without being hunted anymore. it doesnt take a lot to convince them.
& orochimaru, Who after Black Zetsu coerces Fugaku into letting research & awaken greater potentials of the Sharengan. And After they learn how to develop & make not only sharengan, but Mangekyo sharengan... like with shin, but faster, Cause they have more research subjects.
So Between the artifical MS, & the clans Natural MS that would have been awakened, (theyre fighting Jinchuriki, of which the 3,4,5, & 8 are perfect. some people are gonna die)...
The akatsuki now have an army with dozens of Shinobi that have Susanoo & EMS. (orochimaru doesnt try and steal an Uchiha's Body cause of Kotoamatsukame or another MS ability similar)
With these assets, especially that of the Susanoo army.... i dont know if any nation, even the joint forces of the shinobi alliance could stop them.... like thats a LOT of EMS they could potentially have, & assuming thier powers are anywhere near the average abilities granted to our boys from cannon, they just arent being stopped. dozens of people having Tsukoyomi or Kamui is too much to handle...
Hell if shit does go sideways they have Izanagi... which their eyes are seen as less sacred, since they can be replaced with new (albeit worse) eyes if needed.
In the final confrontation Here. Fugaku Doesnt come to his senses immediately seeing Itachi at Minato's Side. using Isanagi to escape reaper death seal, only to be caught by it immediately again moments later, cause Minato is just that fast. He instead now comes to his senses. not because he can see his son, but because he's losing the ability to see his son as he goes blind from uzing izanagi twice... at this point he says the heartful words nick said ;P & black zetsu uses his fading corpse to summon Kaguya
In this final fight its not just Kushina, Itachi, shisui, & probs kakashi (came with Itachi & Minato) but also a dozen Uchiha including Mikoto who had yet to give themselves to the Infinite Tsukoyomi... & they realize they were tricked. & that they fucked up all along.
One of these Uchiha, Mikoto, have an MS ability to seal or lockdown beings to some degree. here its used to prevent Kaguya her from using planar travel to escape the onslaught of fighting a dozen Susunoo Simultaneously. which she holds off fairly well Until Kushina goes Full Kyubi kaiju & Itachi armors it with a majestic Susanoo. Her Adamantite chain's being stronger & faster than ever Locks her down as Kaguya is impaled with a Totsuka blade. but not only a single totsuka blade but a second one from the Uchiha side, not only sealing Kaguya away, but tearing her soul in two
Mikoto takes her husbands Rinnesharengan (his corpse is returned after tearing apart Kaguyu) & Uses it to release the inifinite Tsukuyomi & Using the 6 paths summons the King of Hel... as she begins to reincarnate everyone who had died, expecting to give her life in the process, she asks Kushina to take care of her son like she & Minato had done for Itachi all these years. Mikoto just before falling into a coma that for the next 3 years (awaken shippuden era), she takes out a Kunai and cuts through the Rinnesharengan to prevent another from using it to recreate the travesty before them.
(she was saved by Kushina/Kurama Pumping enough remaining chakra into her to survive the King of hel manuever).
Not only is the cycle broken, as minato & fugaku drink together in the shinigami's afterlife. until Kushina (not orochimaru) learns to free them & send them to the pure lands)... The mothers of the original reincarnations... the wives of the current reincarnations & the Head's of both their respective Clans & Villages were the two to bring the Madness to a close...
the hidden sound becomes a part of the land of fire & Both the uchiha & Uzumaki move back home, with only a few people resenting them, as they gave the world infinite Tsukoyomi... they got to reunite with dead loved ones for a moment & see a perfect world... a perfect world where they were together in harmony, not apart. a world with far less judgement, or any towards Ashura or Indra's families (almost as if the cycle effected the worlds perception of them this whole time)
ramifications for boruto:
Kushina has forgiveness, but not as much as Naruto. when she learns of Orochimaru's biological experements, orochimaru is killed... Like for Good, & their lab is destroyed, left to ash with tailed beast bombs. to prevent replications of their studies (a means to prevent sharengan abundance & abuse against the Otsutskis. (& all the sannin have passed now, its the new generations turn - yeah tsunade is alive, but she never went back to the leaf, hel the infinite tsykoyomi probably made her grief of dan worse)
Sarada wouldnt be the first person to awaken their MS with love... Ironically it would be Sasuke, whos not an edgelord in this timeline, ( though trained to fight, Mikoto prevented from ever getting pushed or experimented to awaken MS because he was 12 during the war.. though he would have 3 tomei)... He awakens it when his mother awakens from her Coma, as he thought he had lost her for good after 3 years of non responsiveness. & the raw Joy of his mother surviving & getting to see her awakens it.
& well a bunch of other stuff, cause the Konoha 13 werent quite the same, and maybe married differently or at different times due to timeline differences. who knows!? but hey At least Neji survived! Hyaku Hyuga lets goo!
This was well done. Really excellent work
I’m just picturing Hashirama smashing the Susano’o off the nine tails and Madara biting him. “Mother fucker OW! I can regenerate but damn. Shit still hurts Madara.”
Man what a happy ending. It would be a shame if a pale, short, sky god with a Byakugan, and sometimes golden Rinnegan were to come down
💀 don’t forget the guy with the yellow eye that really likes wine, chakra rods, and abusing helpless children
So this reminds me of a short I left a comment on a few days ago about there needing to have been at least one extra Rinnegan user.
And while I don't like Sasuke that much either, he made the perfect choice for it, in my opinion.
Keep in mind that this leaves Madara and his shenanigans be. He still does his plan.
It just adds a coincidental idea that Orochimaru decides to use. Considering we know he's no stranger to buffing Sasuke unnecessarily, if he found out any inkling that introducing Naruto's DNA to Sasuke could help I believe he'd have done it.
It doesn't even have to be with the Rinnegan in mind. It could just be because he knew of Ginkaku and Kinkaku, and figured since that worked maybe this will. So before kabuto is found out he nabs some of Naruto's DNA.
Bing Bang Boom you got a Rinnegan either on purpose and Orochimaru knows. Or an accidental one that Sasuke can keep a secret.
You write the scripts, and have the encyclopedic knowledge , so it's up to you where it goes.
The problem is that it takes a while to develop a rinnegan. Remember, madara even after getting hashirama cells still didn’t get his rinnegan until the end of his life.
@obsidianquill7949 True, but Sasuke has a few things that could speed the process up. There have been bigger stretches in the series as is lol.
This was enjoyable, thank you
I'm glad you decided to do another what if after swearing off of them, because this video was awesome!! Well done as always nick keep up the great work!
I've always thought about something similar but with Obito and Kakashi being the reincarnations. It could change things pretty significantly.
The question with that becomes who's who is Kakashi Indra's reincarnation because he is more like indra then Obito is or is Obito Indra's reincarnation because he is a Uchiha but Obito's more like Ashura then Kakashi is but Obito is an Uchiha.
@@SRVariswhy would it matter? It goes from Senju to Uzamaki in the show. Dont have to be related to be an incarnation.
@@JTTT59 Senju and Uzumaki are closely related clans
@@JTTT59Uzumaki clan branched off from the senju clan
@JTTT59 so they share the same ancestor (asura)
This is good, though I think the Hidden Sand would have given Gara over to the Uchiha and joined the Hidden Sound in an alliance, since it would have been Rasa's objective to expand and empower the Sand. It could have even been an alliance born from a lie, with Rasa believing they were equal partners. That might have made the Shinobi World War more interesting in terms of combatants.
sick what if/theory!! dang. good job
This video was AWESOME 🔥🔥🔥
The only negative thing I have to say is that minato not actually being descended from the uzumaki or senju, prevents him from ever being ashura’s reincarnation. Ofc this is an alternate universe, so I understand that you probably changed that detail for this story to work. But besides that, it was a really great watch! I appreciate you always giving us new naruto content as often as you do💯
Its never outright stated you HAVE to be a descendant of Ashura/Indra to be their Reincarnation.
It's kind of implied and shown throughout the series and the most important thing that won't work out is the age difference between them so I can't see it working out as they have 10 years age difference.@@SRVaris
I know that Madara was hella old when he died. But I just had a thought. One that makes me wonder, if Madara hooking himself up to that Gedo Statue with all them Hashirama cells, allowed him to stay in, a 'limited tsukiyomi' like place, that he was in control of. He spent a lot of time sleeping.
He kinda did
@@livingashtree1942 there's just no canon information that I know of, of the time he spent sleeping. I mean it doesn't seem very interesting of a thing to explain. But it is something I can't clear from my mind.
Well, of what he experienced during the time he spent sleeping. There's plenty of information about Obito and the outside world.
The connection between Madara and the Gedo Statue, along with the infusion of Hashirama's cells, definitely had a significant impact on his abilities and longevity. It's possible that it played a role in his ability to enter a state of "limited tsukuyomi" and control his surroundings.
@@SkylarBlake411 He was old as heck what more do you expect, he most likely spent most of his time sleeping and thinking about his infinite tsukiyomi plan
This was well thought out and descriptive!!! I enjoyed listening to this theory very much.
I loved everything about this hypothetical well thought as always ❤❤❤
I'm really sad your what-ifs don't do as well as the regular videos, cause they are definitely my favorite. You give such an interesting perspective with them.
Minato having Fugaku and Kurama inside of himself at the same time. And Itachi, Shisui, and Kushina all trying to face Kaguaya would be a very interesting fight 😅
Don't underestimate Kaguya. She can't be defeated unless she is sealed.
Dude I love your videos. They're great to listen to and great length. Perfect for me to listen to during gym time
Just caught this on lunch break at work. Life is good 🙏🏽
I don’t think the three would be able to defeat Kaguya. We’ve seen that she’s able to neutralize all Jutsu, literally melting a Susanoo as it got close to her so the blade would never enter her. And even if in that pocket dimension, she can just warp out of it with her abilities since she wasn’t stripped of them like in her actual sealing.
Nick was definitely smoking something when he made this video. Kaguya is a literal goddess that can just summon them to the lava dimension and they just die. There’s no reasonable scenario where they survive.
Now I'm curious about how people such as Tsunade could have returned to the village, because the main reason Jiraiya saved her from Orochimaru was to take her back to be Hokage
Amazing video!!!!! One of your best video.
You just gave us a free episode at the end, very well done 🍻
Better get that Sasuke list ready
I think Fugaku would take a hit from Minato to instantaneously get a small sample from him. I.E. flying thunder rasengan. So he is defeated But still accomplishes his goal. I just don't see him putting Minato on his toes enough to defeat him totally. Minato handled a nineties and "masked man" pretty well.
Awesome thanks as always
That was a fantastic video❤
I love the hypothetical my only problems with it are that Fugaku and Minato have over a decade age gap and how Minato would have the Chakra reserves to perform the reaper death seal on a 10 tails jinchuriki. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Nick specifies that fugaku lets him.
If Madara’s brother survived then nothing bad would happen
This was really well done! Please do more of the "what ifs"!
this was amazing!
To be honest, I completely disagree about how this would play out. I think Minato and Fugaku would be much closer as their wives were already best friends and the chakra of Indra and Ashura would draw them to each other more. They'd likely be rivals on the same side, competing to see who could take out more enemies, who could make the strongest jutsus, who would become the 4th Hokage, but also trusting each other to the point where Minato entrusted Fugaku with one of his flying raijin maked kunai, which much like Sasuke wearing his headband during his fight with Naruto when he ran away, Fugaku said he'd never need it, but kept it anyways out of respect. Being Indra's reincarnation may have even fated Fugaku to be placed onto Jiraya's team as a genin alongside Minato and Jiraya would be faced with the idea that either of these children could be the child of prophecy.
Growing up hearing he may be the child of prophecy would lead Fugaku to gain a bit more of a cocky attitude and Black Zetsu would try to tempt him with power, leading Fugaku to believe he is the true child of prophecy and deserved the recognition for who he is, building a kinship with him. When Minato gets named the 4th Hokage, Fugaku will have already believed himself guaranteed the position as the "child of prophecy", and confided in Black Zetsu his anger and frustration for not being recognized by the village who he and his allies have sacrificed themselves to protect. Black Zetsu would take this opportunity to use Fugaku to pull him away from the village, but Fugaku recognizes the manipulation. He starts to realize what Black Zetsu has been doing all this time, and rather than letting himself be fooled like Madara, he decides to sacrifice himself and do the fooling, like his elder son would do in the Akatsuki in the original series. He would follow the ideas of Black Zetsu so that he could entrap him, attacking Minato to get his blood, and managing to cut him and splashing the blood over his eyes, causing the rinnegan to form immediately as the chakra in his eyes immediately merged his Indra chakra with Minato's Ashura chakra. And then he disappears laughing and leaving the hokage confused, but leaving a hidden message by throwing the flying raijin kunai that Minato had given him, it landing in a stack of their master Jiraya's books, specifically one that had the main character going undercover, a message he knew that only Minato would understand, a message meant to be a secret between them both.
This leads to Fugaku abandoning the village and bringing with him only the strongest and most trustworthy of Uchiha for him, leaving his wife and children behind, while Shisui became Fugaku's right hand man. When trying to stop him. Fugaku would spend years building his secret organization and gaslighting them as to the evils of the leaf, and convincing them of his true leadership capabilities with his rinnegan eyes as evidence of his worthiness. With this elite team, the Wicked Eye Fugaku became known as the Devil Eyes Fugaku to his enemies, and proceeded to be known as the God's Eye Fugaku by his peers, a name that slowly became adopted by more civilians as his reputation grew, as he would capture Jinchuriki and tame their tailed beasts with but a single look from his genjutsu. After which he would turn to the people and simply say "This is my power" and he would vanish with his allies and the tailed beast he captured using his Rinnegan's ability to instantaneously travel, not unlike his rival's and son's main timeline Rinnegan signature abilities.
Meanwhile, Hokage Minato would be gaining a reputation as a leader of peace between villages, and even earning himself a second nickname of The Beast Bomber, having used his Rasengan to counter a tailed beast bomb from the 3 tails when it went on a rampage.
Minato would never become a perfect Jinchuriki. But realizing the risk Fugaku could mean to Kushina, he reformed Kurama's seal on Kushina into an 8 trigrams seal, enabling Kurama to be more at peace inside of her in a cage, rather than nailed to a ball of flames, giving Kushina a more secure lock on the 9 tails as well as enabling Kushina access to the 9 tails power. This was the beginning of Kushina's training to become a perfect jinchuriki and not just a vessel to restrain the 9 tails. This was done both as a precaution, in case Fugaku had truly gone mad, but also as a way for Kushina and Minato to work together as a stronger singular unit, capable of helping Fugaku on his mission. This goes until the point where Kushina is capable of sharing Kurama cloaks with people just like Naruto in a KCM2 cloak, only she would enter that form and due to Kurama's personal relationship with both Minato and Kushina, they would be able to share 50% of Kurama's power with Minato, giving him his own KCM2 cloak, equivalent in power to what Minato would have access to during the war, only without Kurama inside of him to gather nature chakra. However, knowing Minato's skill as a Sage, Kurama would be able to transfer nature chakra to Minato with his cloak.
Before he had left the village, Fugaku had sired his second son, Sasuke. This was the assurance that Fugaku had given to his wife that he loved her, despite his actions. Sasuke was always told by Itachi to use his anger towards his father to become stronger and not hold it against his father, as he understood something must've been happening. Until one day, Fugaku, realizing his kids would need the power of the Mangekyo, Fugaku returned to the leaf, when Sasuke was 6 years old, and he had a moment alone with his wife before his children returned from their training, and he cut her down in front of them, awakening Itachi's Magekyo and traumatizing Sasuke. Itachi had already been an anbu and member of Minato's personal guard, as well as a close friend, as the Uchiha had shunned his family since Fugaku betrayed the village and taken the strongest and most loyal Uchiha's with him, leaving the clan weak and losing status in the leaf. This hatred towards Fugaku had somewhat ironically strengthened the Uchiha's relationship with the leaf while uniting them against Fugaku. However it left Kushina and Minato to be Itachi and Sasuke's mom's only friends. Sasuke grew up almost like a brother to Naruto, who had also seen Itachi like a big brother whose attention he had always wanted to steal from Sasuke, because he saw Sasuke as his best friend and wanted to share joy with him, while Sasuke liked to act like Naruto was a nuisance, but generally had fun with him until the day his mom died, when he suddenly became cold. They eventually had a falling out as Naruto could never understand what Sasuke felt with both of his parents still alive. As a side note, Naruto is also friends with Kurama as he would go inside Kushina's inner world and play with Kurama when Kushina would fall asleep while caring for everything around the house in the afternoon after her intense Jinchuriki training. It was an accident, at first, as Naruto was just trying to wake his mom the first time. But when he found himself inside the room with Kurama, Kurama was entertained by the idea of this small child coming into his room and not being scared of him at all. Since that day, Naruto would come talk to Kurama every time his mom would fall asleep like this. This relationship will be important in the future.
To be continued in the comments as I gotta get back to work now, but I'm hoping everyone reading can see some of the things I'm building towards already
That’s a well written dissertation
What Indra and asura chakra? The only Indra and asura chakras present were in kushina and mikotos womb.
Please someone @ me when he continues his story this shit is dopeee i wanna read the whole thing
Cool
Nice
If Madara hadn't meddled, this would have come to pass I think. And maaaaybe.... it was an intentional thing from Kishimoto or it just kinda fits. Idk
This was BRILLIANT Bro keep it up forget the haters
Loved it!!❤❤
I have a question. . . 3:35
Wouldn't Kushina Uzumaki more likely to be the next reincarnation since she's closely related to Hashirama (for a fact) then Minato is?
I mean, think about it?
Kushina is also born around that time as well. . . Plus it would make sense, story wise, that Kushina, the mother of Naruto, would be the reincarnation.
She is a woman😅
I have a question.
When I think of “reincarnation” I usually think of the spirit and essence of an individual becoming that of the new person. In the case of Indra and Asura, they’re Chakara is being passed on to the reincarnation as well. So that being said, how can an Edo Tensai Madara and Hamara exist with their extreme chakara levels and power on the same battle field as Sasuke and Naruto? Wouldn’t they have the chakara that was passed onto them through reincarnation and Madara and Hamara be without chakara? Am I understanding reincarnation incorrectly or just this situation?
Edo Tensei gives the resurrected individual infinitely refilling chakra. So while they CAN run out, it refills rapidly, with no user input.
Hashirama, for all it matters, had the ridiculous chakra of a Senju to begin with. Even ignoring what being Asura's Reincarnate bolstered him with in life.
As for Madara, his body having more Hashirama cells bonded to him by Kabuto, and being in his prime and not his ancient old form, speaks volumes to his chakra limits in the War Arc.
Indra's reincarnates did not seem to have bolstered chakra, or if they did, it was used almost entirely to just let the Sharingan be utilized far more than normal, but Madara was said to have the most chakra of any Uchiha known (though it still came up short on the higher Senjus or Uzumakis in general).
This is why Madara and Hashirama are not reincarnates come the War Arc, but still have seemingly endless chakra (as did all the Edo Tensei shinobi). They died 20-50 years prior, the reincarnate energy went back to the Purelands and was then put into Naruto and Sasuke.
@@ZeroEdge69 ahhhh that makes sense. The reincarnation chakra is in addition to their own chakra as opposed to making up their chakra in its entirety. Thanks, man. I'm trackin now
Bro freaking awesome keep the fire coming
I really dig your proposed what if. More studios should do these as parallel universe story lines. This would be awesome to see as an anime.
This would be cool if they ever made Naruto one-shots like this. A what-if series.❤
I really love how this played out!! This was a very interesting deep dive, my only “critique” is that I’m fairly certain Madara said he found Obito’s body on top of the rocks he was crushed under, that Obito had somehow used his MS before awakening it, to save his life
So, there is a question of, what happens to Obito then? His wounds were still damning, so it is more than likely he would still die, but! It’s also possible that seeing such an injured enemy ninja child, any other team investigating the area would probably rescue him in order to see what kind of knowledge he has, and what he can bring for them
So, however slight it may be, there is a non-0% chance the hidden stone might have either Kamui or their own Uchiha children (depending how unethical the stone is, they might even have both, making sure Obito grants the new offspring will also being unable to escape with his own Sharingan)
But yeah, with this possibility it’s a lot more preferred that he’s just dead lol, I could also argue that because the Yadamir is made of chakra that you could be absorbed, but Nagato didn’t do it, so probably not, ash all killing bone perhaps? But the big question is, why couldn’t Kaguya just warp out of the realm of drunken dreams? Or at least warped to one of her dimensions instead?
The most concerning part about this would have to be that she’s still alive, Karuma is beyond unfriendly with Kushina, & all of the rest of the Biju are sealed away along with half of him , I remember you had said for the Naruto x Sakura video that we’re dealing with hypothetical power, does the hypothetical power of this world now compare? Like this Naruto probably doesn’t know sage mode, or at least to the proficiency that our main series one does, I do find this to be more or less a better situation for Naruto and Sasuke to grow up in, but to say, I’m not concerned for the future is a bit of an understatement lol
Anyway!! Thank you for this discussion! Is a really interesting listen, take care!!
haha, lots of interesting points there, It's true that there are different possibilities and potential outcomes for Obito's fate. As for Kaguya, her inability to warp out of the realm of drunken dreams or to one of her dimensions could be due to various factors, such as limitations of her powers or the specific rules of that realm. And regarding Naruto and Sasuke's growth in this alternate world, it's definitely an intriguing scenario to explore. The hypothetical power dynamics and their development would be unique compared to the main series.
This is sick I love it
This is some very fun and interesting theory crafting. I like it.
The Minato one-shot makes me terrified of how strong Fugaku actually was, and because of it, this alternate timeline feels hella plausible.
Something people have to remember is that Fugaku Uchiha was considered just as powerful as Minato. They both had "Flee on Sight" orders against them from multiple villages.
If Minato, as a 14 year old boy, could match Kurama to a standstill, imagine how powerful he would've been in his 20s when he died. Along that same vein, if Fugaku was considered a rival of Minato's for the seat of 4th Hokage, he could probably have done the same at the same age as Minato could.
Eh
I don’t understand where everyone got the idea that Minato and fugaku were rivals…
@@obsidianquill7949 I'm not saying that they were rivals in the vein of their sons. I'm saying that the position of 4th Hokage had 3 possibilities. Those 3, Minato, Fugaku, and Orochimaru, were in rivaling positions.
That being said, people get they idea that they themselves were rivals because of:
A) The fact that they were both candidates for the position of 4th Hokage.
B) The fact that they both had "Flee on Sight" orders against them from other ninja villages.
C) Their sons are rivals in the traditional sense, so people assume they must've had the same relationship.
@@obsidianquill7949 the Oxford dictionary defines rivalry as, quote, 'a state in which two or more people, companies, etc. are competing for the same thing.'
So by that definition, Minato, Fugaku and Orochimaru had a rivalry.
@@obsidianquill7949 because every character is overhyped in naruto
I'm assuming that when Fugaku attacks during Kushina giving birth to Naruto, that he is disguised? How are you accounting for Minato _not_ getting a Hiraishin seal on him during that fight and then immediately taking him out once the dust has settled Kurama being unsealed?
Also my question. I was thinking it would literally just turn out like the Minato vs obito fight where Minato suffers zero damage and his opponent now has an ftg tag on him and a contract seal
I like your "what ifs" Nick. You're very creative and uou come up with some interesting stuff.
this is amazing
I think the biggest problem here is, the Konaha crush wouldn't work. With KCM Minato and Kushina, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Guy, Kakashi, Itachi, Shisui, Hiruzen, and Danzo, all in the village. The sound village gets washed.
that's not true, Jiriaya wasn't there before, Tsunade wouldn't be there either......Boosted uchiha who have done nothing but fight and train and get boosts from orochimaru experiments is super problematic......and if Fugaku and orochimaru plan it it can be bad for the village....I don't think it will be easy though
why would Tsunade be their Minato never died no need for a fifth and them having KCM not likely Naruto was a special case how would they know to go to a water fall if killer bee gets captured before the crush arc?
@@tomlewis3362 Jiraiya was there, Tsunade may or may not be there in this new timeline but everyone else will definitely be there. Itachi wiped all the Uchiha by himself. With so many high kage level fighters, it would be an easy win for Konaha. The sound village and Uchihas wouldn't have enough high level fighters.
@@oguhaner7608 she might have stayed around because Jiraiya and Minato and Kushina being there, may have caused her to stick around. They may have had someone go to get her in preparation for defending the village. If not, it doesn't change much. Minato had KCM in the main timeline and Kushina would probably befriend Kurama the same way Naruto did once Kurama realizes they're fighting a guy who put him under gin jitsu before. Either way it's too many high kage level fighters in Konaha.
The question I would have is if Fugaku would manipulated like Madara. He never seems as bad, iirc he even was fairly opposed to the coup.
Maybe he wouldn’t be as swayed by Zetsu
depending on when madara met zetsu, madara wasnt a bad person either. in the beginning he also wanted peace.
@@mangekyo9216i think losing his brother is what finally pushed him over the edge.
@@mangekyo9216Indra was a bad person
Being his reincarnate, i'd argue madara was too
Nick this was an amazing story. Got to give it to you
Love this
I think fugaku was really strong and the reason why he allowed Itachi to kill him was to avoid fighting him so he wouldn't kill his own son
Yeah, that’s literally what fugaku said. He didn’t want a death match with his son.
@@redprince123 I think it would of mostly been a one sided battle and fugaku knew that .. not saying Itachi wouldn't put up a fight but I think fugaku was just that much stronger
@@MrJN3W who knows, fugaku didn’t canonically have an MS at that time (it was anime only) so itachi would’ve had that advantage
@@redprince123 i mean yeah...but you re insane if you think the head of the uchiha didnt have an ms when obito(who as a kid wasnt impressive at all),shisui,fucking SHIN "uchiha" and both of his sons did
@@redprince123 they called him "wicked eye" for a reason also he did just as much damage as Minato in the war so I would assume he had ms up his sleeve
1. The idea of Minato having a massive chackra pool is disproved by how he couldn't hold Sage Mode for long. When gathering nature energy, you need to stop before you have more of it than your own chackra. Minato, a genius in chackra control, not being able to stay too long in Sage Mode means only one thing: he can't gather too much nature energy to begin with due to his limited chackra pool. All his impressive feats and Flying Raijin spams have a much better explanation in the idea that mastering a jutsu also means you spend less chackra on it.
2. The actual jutsu that Minato used to split Kurama in the original story is the Reaper Death Seal. There's no scenario where Minato can both split Kurama AND survive. It's one or the other.
3. Minato being a reincarnation of Ashura requires him to be either a Senju or Uzumaki. And to make that happen you need more head cannon than the Pacific Ocean has water. All the vague similarities between him and Ashura have much better explanations:
- Asuhra using Rasengan: non-cannon filler that was made to actually make Ashura more similar to Naruto. Even if we did Agree Ashura used it, the Rasengan it's a form of chackra that came natural to him, while a genius like Minato had to study tailed beast bombs for 3 years in order to come to the same form. And his mastery of Fuinjutsu came the same way: through hard work and thorough study, NOT through some inherited powers.
- Being chosen over a stronger alternative because of kindness and bringing people together: NOPE. NOPE. NOPE. Minato was chosen because he defeated an entire army of 1000 Stone Shinobi BY HIMSELF. Oonoki is shown deciding to negotiate for peace EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THAT BATTLE. That is honestly the most Indra-like thing any Hokage has ever done. Tell that story to the Uchiha, and they have no actual feat of Fugaku to level it up. The Uchiha weren't exactly mad because Minato was chosen...they were mad because Fugaku wasn't even considered.
- Minato being part of such a noble clan lessens the idea of becoming strong without born-given powers even more. Naruto's speech to Neji loses even more of it's value.
4. Kushina and Mikoto were very close friends. With that in mind, Fugaku would be much more likely to talk to Minato about any concerns of the Uchiha being cast aside (something that only happened after the 9 tails attack), while Minato would be much more likely to act upon it and make sure the Uchiha are respected and valued. The guilt of Obito dying would also play a part in this. The most likely scenario I see is Fugaku becoming one of Minato's closest advisors, with either Shisui or (more probably) Itachi being groomed as the future 5th Hokage.
Minato said he couldn’t use sm well because his battle style is like completely different from sage mode. The guy teleports everywhere like a maniac which completely defeats the purpose of sage mode since in sage mode you have to stay perfectly still and gather a bunch of nature energy. Also even if his sage mode didn’t last long he also was a perfect sage not an imperfect one like jiraiya indicating that he at least has more chakra than the average person.
@@obsidianquill7949 But being a perfect sage is about the accuracy with which you can gather nature energy...stopping at the "sweet spot" if you will. That is what Jirayia couldn't master.
1) wrong, so to have sanin mode the ninja already needs to have a huge amount of chakra otherwise he can't or worse, he turns to stone, the only reason Minato doesn't have sanin mode any longer is because he doesn't use much, but that could be easily fixed as he was using it, compare naruto when he learned sanin mode with his version of war, naruto's chakra did not change at all, but it greatly increased the duration of sanin mode, and without taking into account that Minato could use clones or frogs on his shoulders too, and I even think that he could store nature's energy in a seal, and thus absorb it whenever he wanted, in the work he has already shown being able to seal everything in sealing jutsus, from objects, to living beings, jutsus, beings made of chakra (bijus), so sealing nature's energy for later use wouldn't be impossible
@@lucasleopoldinodasilva7720 if he stored sage chakra in a seal it’d be like the hundred healing seal but a hundred times stronger
@@obsidianquill7949 surely, and the best thing is that he wouldn't even need to do the same as tsunade/sakura and create a separate reservoir of chakra in his body, he could leave a seal on his body or on scrolls and leave the chakra stored there, when he wanted to use the chakra it would be enough does it undo or absorb straight from the seal
Amazing😊
Damn I love the what if vids! Why do people not like these?
I mean, if we wanna go with a technicality, Madara did die until he used Izanagi, so if we go off of that, the cycle continued when he passed after the fight with Hashirama. I like the Minato reincarnation because it would low-key explain why his Chakra pull was so large
Wouldn't Minato.have a mark on kushina? There's no way they are getting her for any period of time without minato being dead.
I really like What ifs and yours are cool to listen to.
This was beautiful.
Great story man!! Damn good story!!
Keep up the great work and videos Nick
Fantastic storytelling ❤
Wake up it’s a new NCH video 🗣️🔥
These " What If?" videos are amazing!
Bro I tuned in during 2021 now this man is part of my daily routine of every day of my life I’m actually astonished
Hands down best video ever
Woooo i love it
Another great video.
I loved this what if I wish you did more
What a wild change. Definitely something I'd love to see on scene.
The what if hypothetical musings are some of my favorite videos you've ever produced how are they not doing well?!
Hey Nick. Love the content.
Have you considered doing a video on prospective ceilings of power for dead characters? Like which had already hit them or who had room to grow.
Minato, non-illness Itachi and Neji come to mind.
Nick fanfic rambles are always a good way to pass the time
New camera? New setting? Either way this video looks really good
Man, you should be a fanfiction writer, your plots would be heat. So much worldbuilding!
almost 500k! woo
This was epic
Man Mc hammer thank you for letting me weeb out at work while making burgers, keep up the work sir
such a awesome story teller
now this is a video I been waiting for
Bro, I love the way you explain stuff.
I've been watching your vids for the past year or so, every single day/time you have anew vid up, & it's ALWAYS TOP-TIER MATERIAL, & until the day you stop, for whatever reason that is, I'll always keep watching, your content is just that good & IT MAKES SENSE!!!!
Maybe I'm either that dumb or that much of a weeb, but DANGIT, I'd like to think that I know what I'm talking about!!!😅🙃🤣😁🤟
Keep up the awesome work bro!!!
Pharr-Shot will always be here for you & your content!!!😁🤟
Hey Nick! Loving the content. Can you raise the volume though? Please?
YOOOO new camera looking sliiiiick