I wish more training videos had active questions being asked like this one did. Not jibber jabber like so many, but questions that clarifies the techniques to the viewers. Thank you
The city (U.S.) I live in allows us to own these batons but not carry them, concealed or otherwise. But you can walk around with a bat or a hammer or crowbar and they dont mind. You can carry a concealed firearm with a permit and openly without one but no colapsable batons with or without a permit. Seems kind of backward to me but at least Im not in London.
@metalredstar true .. it sucks ass .. not everyone is a loony or thug ..but obviously it's difficult to distinguish between whos who .. with eyes of the law
When I went through my training to become a Community Service Officer, we went through these techniques. Those locks hurt like helll when forcing someone down to their knees, lol. I miss the academy, though... good times, lots of fun and great training.
I have one arm.. could you do a demo of self defense in that scenario? I recently got in a fist fight..I would have done better if I had leveled the playing field.. please help
There's no "level playing field" in a fight. The world is never fair. The other guy can be bigger, stronger, faster, whatever, and you don't have a choice. Just don't give up. I recently saw some RUclips clips of a one-armed boxer. He kicked ass. I was impressed as hell. That could be you!
In my opinion its always best to use the most confirmed tactics, namely: 1 escape if possible 2 strike first 3 dont have any misgivings, your life is most important 4th regardless of weapon always hit center of mass ( torso)
What you want to do instead is step low and hit the nerve directly above the knee. This is actually what US Marshals do to put someone on the ground with their baton.
i bought a few when i visited Serbia.it costs only 7€ there.but you can only use it 3-5 times and the batton breaks.tried to open it and piece of batton flew away.probably because it was cheap.my experience shows that if u hit the "enemy" in the face, head, neck or clavicle, you just hit once and its done.better than electric shockers or pepper sprays
As a tax paying citizen...I can buy guns, knives, stun batons....ninja swords, cold steel throwing stars....BUT, for some reason, I can't buy an expandable baton? Is that nuts or what? The expandable baton would be perfect for walking, because it doesn't call attention to yourself....Looks like maybe a flashlight or something...But it's a great less than lethal defense tool when needed...Why is this off limits to citizens in a free country? I don't get it....I really like that "Peacekeeper" baton, but they won't sell to the citizens of this country....Apparently the cops have more rights than the citizens who are supposed to be the real government and owners here....What gives?
We can buy them in Germany, to make it all more rediculous. But, we are not allowed to carry them or certain knives. Guns are an absolute taboo. No Tasers either. Enjoy your freedom. ;-)
The problem is that unless we see something applied, and not just explained ,we tend to not be so certain about the knowledge. There are "perfect" counters and counters to counters, but reality does set in. I would not state, directly, that the explanation is doubtful reality, I would just desire to see it further explained. Three minutes and 40 seconds is really not enough time to know for sure.
You started really good, with hitting hands, but trying the other moves and getting your baton that close gives the chance for the opponent to take it.
1:13 he would have used his left arm, grabbed a hold of the baton and then grabbed your shirt with the other, again the baton should be used more if they have a weapon or in a way that the attacker cant get ahold of it
1:24 that arm is still free to get you into a chokehold 1:27 if he's grabbing you he's gonna use is left hat to grab you and his right hand is still free to punch of shank you
You speak as if the only thing he'll be doing at the time is concentrating fully on the baton. 1. Regardless if the guys left hand was free he's still in the worse position, the guy with the baton has the upper hand because he has control 2. He already mentioned the strikes will come first to weaken the attacker. Pretty hard to choke or stab someone when your hands and fingers are broken.
Yeah but all that shit goes out the window when you're actually moving and why would I be grabbing the shirt with my right hand and if I did why would I just let go instead of pulling him down with me and why would I grab him with only one hand? There's so much more wrong with this!
Philippine maharlikas still has one more move for that. By Grabing his right hand with your left hand then place the stick on his neck and pull the stick backward against his shoulder.
I love these vids. Can’t seam to find these techniques used in real life though? Question. Why, rather than attempting to catch the punch just swing the thing at him?
I have one, but I cant get it to retract again. Any ideas on how and what to do .? I really trying to avoid buying more since I already have 3 or them.
Is it one with friction lock or the mechanical lock? If it's friction lock you generally need to hold the grip with your index finger and thumb and let it hang straight down, then proceed to knock it against a hard, flat surface. Almost like dropping is straight down. But if it's bent due to striking things that might be impossible.
this is like aikido and karate videos that show 'real karate' or whatever. all techniques work on a non moving and fully extended attacker. if you try to underhook his arm like that, he's going to take your weapon.
What baton was he using? Looks like it has a release switch so that it can be retracted without slamming it to the ground. Someone please tell me what brand and model that is.
Unless I'm mistaken, it's a brand known as, "Bonowi," and it's German. Good luck even finding one outside of Germany. And, unless you are either: a) military; b) law enforcement, you are probably prohibited from even buying one. If you CAN get one, though, they're amazing. CNC machined, super-strong steel, that won't break, even if a full-sized SUV runs over it. But, there's a downside, too. Like all German inventions, it has waaaaaay too many working parts (56 in total) and all it takes is for one of those little things to break, and you're screwed. But you're right: it has a switch. It's called a, "Camlock," baton, and once extended, it is as rigid as a pipe. You need to push and hold the button to re-collapse it.
There's a company called Monadnock that makes them in the U.S., probably not as nice as the Bonowi but it's got the pushbutton release so you don't have to slam it against the concrete to collapse it.
Question sir, when you lock opponent's arm with both hand, the opponent have other arm free when our face have no defense, how you prevent got hit on face when they struggle to release the locked hand by punching on face?
Honestly you'll never be abpe to lock your opponent's arm without him doing nothing, these videos are fake their opponent is basically braindead so you shouldn't worry
It's a demonstration of a basic technique. All martial arts have aspects of this (including boxing, muai thai mma, bjj). He acknowledges a real situation will be uglier and varied in the video. You can add realism and variation once you get the hang of the basic technique.
What I don't get is WHY no one uses his/her ExB as a knife or a spear. I 'stabbed' myself as a test with it, and man it hurt like a bitch and to do that you don't even have to swing it around, just a quick flip to expand it and use it as a knife. It's end is flat, so no risk of serious wounds, but it still delivers a powerful punch to the gut, to the ribs, or even the balls....
Benowi. Made by IPE in Germany. I think they call it the Camlock there. Heavier and much more sturdy than an ASP. Jared is featured in their training video that is available in the US.
I clicked on “fight gear and training tools” and there is literally nothing involving gear or tools on that link. It’s all just links, eye candy and click bait for their university, which I am certain is worth looking in to, but was not at all what I was looking for when I clicked on “fight gear and training tools”
🤣😂 You can't catch a punch like that. So everything that comes next doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you have a "Rolls Royce expensive" roof if the walls are made of cardboard. 🤙🏻
Then you counter, and smash him before he can reach you - and when you hit with your baton, you hit with at least 90% of your capacity, no less. If given the opportunity, you smash with 110%. That's what I was taught.
Not really, expandable batons are generally too light and back heavy to actually knock someone out. The idea is to hit muscles to cause internal bruising to make the muscle more difficult to use and the person easier to control. And that is where the techniques come in, this isn't for civilians trying to survive a street fight, it's for LEOs, security and prison guards that don't want to knock people out but rather control them and make an arrest.
This will not work against an aggressive , trained attacker . The fact that you hurt his arms is meaningless. Many people have been known to keep fighting with Broken Arms. You feel the pain long after the fight.
The idea is to hit nerve endings and clusters with whip like motions so the limb is stunned or paralyzed. Then engage in a grapple to pin. Main reason why they don't go for the head right away because as soon as those nerves are numb or paralyzed all you've done is pissed em off
@@ParkorEnderman The real world fight in ghettos and bad places is different. You don’t want to be grappling with anyone no matter their state of incapacitation or how much pain they are in.
@@ParkorEnderman Thank you I know these techniques from Arnis. Very difficult to execute on resisting attacker. Almost impossible on aggressive attacker. Much to complex for the real world. How would I iuse it? Hand, leg, face, repeat. If he closed the distance, face, takedown,. This is a great tool to keep some distance but it will not end a fight. It is better for attack than defence.
These arm trapping moves are utter nonsense without extensive training and hours of practice. Fights are fast and furious and over in the blink of an eye. A baton should be used to strike out arms, waist or legs in a massive show of force that causes the other guy to quit. A baton allows you to keep a safe defensive distance where you can hit him, but he can't hit you.
the guy literally just said strike the aggressor until he is weak enough to control. I see too many ppl watching self defense videos like these and calling it utter bullshit off the bat.
Strike him until he is out cold. Never wrap up with anyone no matter their level of capability. They might have a concealed knife and stab you. You always want to keep your distance. Kick home in the face and knock him out if you don’t want to keep striking with the baton.
Tried this in my living room, there's a hole in the wall.
DownHooligan Idiot.
Damnit Kyle!
*_I can't even scratch our wall_*
Your wall is
WEAK
@@ikanberapi2189 six times the pipe has burst in that wall so ya you're right.
I wish more training videos had active questions being asked like this one did. Not jibber jabber like so many, but questions that clarifies the techniques to the viewers. Thank you
I don't have cuffs so its going to be a bad day for the attacker.
Yeah - right.
I do; two pairs of cuffs.
@@StanCoffee123 Two girlfriends?
Damn your pulling
@@echo3568 Hahah, good one!
The city (U.S.) I live in allows us to own these batons but not carry them, concealed or otherwise. But you can walk around with a bat or a hammer or crowbar and they dont mind. You can carry a concealed firearm with a permit and openly without one but no colapsable batons with or without a permit. Seems kind of backward to me but at least Im not in London.
metalredstar yeah the UK is a backwards authoritarian shithole, I should know!
@metalredstar because in UK it's full of crazy people that bash people's head in for no reason
you live in the city of the united states?
@metalredstar true .. it sucks ass .. not everyone is a loony or thug ..but obviously it's difficult to distinguish between whos who .. with eyes of the law
@@rooroo9216 NO! That's not backwards, That's progress! Just ask a "progressive"!
When I went through my training to become a Community Service Officer, we went through these techniques. Those locks hurt like helll when forcing someone down to their knees, lol. I miss the academy, though... good times, lots of fun and great training.
That's good. It's a shame not every police academy teach you these techniques when using a baton. Just mostly tasers or using your gun.
I died when he said or or or
Is that venom?
I have one arm.. could you do a demo of self defense in that scenario? I recently got in a fist fight..I would have done better if I had leveled the playing field.. please help
There's no "level playing field" in a fight. The world is never fair. The other guy can be bigger, stronger, faster, whatever, and you don't have a choice. Just don't give up. I recently saw some RUclips clips of a one-armed boxer. He kicked ass. I was impressed as hell. That could be you!
@@VTSifuSteve Well i mean if he cuts his arm off he could be..
Having a one arm cause disadvantage better need a pepper spray if it can work but you can do it by chances to defend yourself tho
Maybe practice kicking properly with ur legs, kicks are powerful if u practice
I always thought a good blow to the knee is most effective. Not sure someone will be able to stand up with a powerful hit on the knee joint.
Too effective, may be hard to justify if he’s already been struck
In my opinion its always best to use the most confirmed tactics, namely: 1 escape if possible 2 strike first 3 dont have any misgivings, your life is most important 4th regardless of weapon always hit center of mass ( torso)
@Jesus Anaya If he has a knife, then you're permitted to use lethal force. Why make him limp.
What you want to do instead is step low and hit the nerve directly above the knee. This is actually what US Marshals do to put someone on the ground with their baton.
Not only an offensive weapon but it's a defensive weapon
Awesome job thanks.!!!
You bet!
This is one of, if not the best video overseen so far. 👌
Thank you for this video. We would absolutely like to see more baton work. Love it!
What is the make/model of the baton you are using?
Is he The Rock's kid brother?
Hes Maori.
The pebble.
You mean cousin?
Damn aperture just blew up my sub feed.
very helpful ,Thank you
i bought a few when i visited Serbia.it costs only 7€ there.but you can only use it 3-5 times and the batton breaks.tried to open it and piece of batton flew away.probably because it was cheap.my experience shows that if u hit the "enemy" in the face, head, neck or clavicle, you just hit once and its done.better than electric shockers or pepper sprays
Can we see a force on force demonstration of these methods? Perhaps using safety equipment?
Can you please let us know what baton you're using in the video
Bit late, but looks like a peacekeeper RCB
Very nice, thanks for sharing.
short and sweet.
EXCELLENT LECTURE
As a tax paying citizen...I can buy guns, knives, stun batons....ninja swords, cold steel throwing stars....BUT, for some reason, I can't buy an expandable baton? Is that nuts or what? The expandable baton would be perfect for walking, because it doesn't call attention to yourself....Looks like maybe a flashlight or something...But it's a great less than lethal defense tool when needed...Why is this off limits to citizens in a free country? I don't get it....I really like that "Peacekeeper" baton, but they won't sell to the citizens of this country....Apparently the cops have more rights than the citizens who are supposed to be the real government and owners here....What gives?
We can buy them in Germany, to make it all more rediculous. But, we are not allowed to carry them or certain knives. Guns are an absolute taboo. No Tasers either. Enjoy your freedom. ;-)
@Nando Wolf Brasil?
i say better. in my country even police officers are not allowed to carry an expendable baton...
@@RaphaelCozzi Shitralia
Use a fighting cane its even better
Mabuhay. Can someone please inform me what is the name and who is the maker of the baton that Guro Wihongi is using?
Salamat.
Would like too see it happen with a controlled pressure test.. don’t really think you will be able to get that position so easily!
The problem is that unless we see something applied, and not just explained ,we tend to not be so certain about the knowledge. There are "perfect" counters and counters to counters, but reality does set in. I would not state, directly, that the explanation is doubtful reality, I would just desire to see it further explained. Three minutes and 40 seconds is really not enough time to know for sure.
THAT WORKS AMAZING ON STATIC OPPONENTS WHO AREN'T HITTING BACK
Yes more vid please
Excellent technique IMO. Great video.
Wouldnt it be easier to wrestle the guy once you have the outside position, rather than using the baton assisted lock?
whats the cm is that stick? how long in cm?
I'm guessing it's a 21" baton, so that would make around 53 cm. Same as I carry on duty, but I suppose I carry a different brand, though.
You started really good, with hitting hands, but trying the other moves and getting your baton that close gives the chance for the opponent to take it.
Who are you?
@@jakejudson8578 your dad that forgot to bring you some milk after leaving you 10 years ago
Owww I like that thanks
Oh,yeah Real and useful skills. I love it. Thanks.
Absolutely give us more info on baton fighting. I wanna know how to fight baton vs baton and baton vs other melee weapons
1:27 is the usual choice here hahaha 😂
All weapons are an extension of the body. Nice vid🙂👍👍👍
How about against a knife attack?
1:13 he would have used his left arm, grabbed a hold of the baton and then grabbed your shirt with the other, again the baton should be used more if they have a weapon or in a way that the attacker cant get ahold of it
Hey so I have a 13010 baton and I think it’s police issue, I want to ask if it legal to carry in my truck? I will do it regardless just want to know
00:15
*my dog when I come home*
BEAUTIFUL
1:24 that arm is still free to get you into a chokehold
1:27 if he's grabbing you he's gonna use is left hat to grab you and his right hand is still free to punch of shank you
You speak as if the only thing he'll be doing at the time is concentrating fully on the baton.
1. Regardless if the guys left hand was free he's still in the worse position, the guy with the baton has the upper hand because he has control
2. He already mentioned the strikes will come first to weaken the attacker. Pretty hard to choke or stab someone when your hands and fingers are broken.
Yeah but all that shit goes out the window when you're actually moving and why would I be grabbing the shirt with my right hand and if I did why would I just let go instead of pulling him down with me and why would I grab him with only one hand? There's so much more wrong with this!
Awsome!
Philippine maharlikas still has one more move for that. By Grabing his right hand with your left hand then place the stick on his neck and pull the stick backward against his shoulder.
Nice
I couldn't help but notice the tear tattoo. You do realize what that means in the USA. Right? Please explain....
Is it a tattoo or a birthmark? I was wondering about that.
Minh muon mua gay baton nhu vay thi mua o dau vay ban chi giup minh
Hitting the hands sounds the most useful to get away
I love these vids. Can’t seam to find these techniques used in real life though?
Question. Why, rather than attempting to catch the punch just swing the thing at him?
More please
And if they have 2 arms?
I have one, but I cant get it to retract again. Any ideas on how and what to do .? I really trying to avoid buying more since I already have 3 or them.
Is it one with friction lock or the mechanical lock?
If it's friction lock you generally need to hold the grip with your index finger and thumb and let it hang straight down, then proceed to knock it against a hard, flat surface. Almost like dropping is straight down. But if it's bent due to striking things that might be impossible.
From which store i may get the baton which you used in this video?
You can buy it online, amazon, ebay or others
this is like aikido and karate videos that show 'real karate' or whatever. all techniques work on a non moving and fully extended attacker. if you try to underhook his arm like that, he's going to take your weapon.
Dangerous technique if you don’t the black blade his holding at night in a ice pick grip. Breaking his hands is more than enough to get compliance
What baton was he using? Looks like it has a release switch so that it can be retracted without slamming it to the ground. Someone please tell me what brand and model that is.
Unless I'm mistaken, it's a brand known as, "Bonowi," and it's German. Good luck even finding one outside of Germany. And, unless you are either: a) military; b) law enforcement, you are probably prohibited from even buying one. If you CAN get one, though, they're amazing. CNC machined, super-strong steel, that won't break, even if a full-sized SUV runs over it. But, there's a downside, too. Like all German inventions, it has waaaaaay too many working parts (56 in total) and all it takes is for one of those little things to break, and you're screwed. But you're right: it has a switch. It's called a, "Camlock," baton, and once extended, it is as rigid as a pipe. You need to push and hold the button to re-collapse it.
@@baddestburrito Thank you for the info!
bonowi baton made in germany
@@capt.eslamelkassas4656 Thank you, Sir!
There's a company called Monadnock that makes them in the U.S., probably not as nice as the Bonowi but it's got the pushbutton release so you don't have to slam it against the concrete to collapse it.
I watched this coz I'm a photographer and I gotta protect myself with from thieves.
What type of baton he use?
It looks like a Bonowi.
Hello, what brand of baton are you using in the video?
Looks like a EKA Bonowi www.bonowi.de/bonowi-premium-products/schlagstoecke/eka/ (one.. *the* best baton!)
What baton is that?
More, must have more!
Question sir, when you lock opponent's arm with both hand, the opponent have other arm free when our face have no defense, how you prevent got hit on face when they struggle to release the locked hand by punching on face?
Honestly you'll never be abpe to lock your opponent's arm without him doing nothing, these videos are fake their opponent is basically braindead so you shouldn't worry
It's a demonstration of a basic technique. All martial arts have aspects of this (including boxing, muai thai mma, bjj). He acknowledges a real situation will be uglier and varied in the video.
You can add realism and variation once you get the hang of the basic technique.
CA: batons are illegal to even have unless you are a Security Guard with a Baton Permit under Penal Code 12002B.
How long is that Baton?
I think it's 16 inches.
Basically Ninjutsu techniques
Hello beautiful ppl! Anyone knows what batton he uses and will be kind to write? Thanks!❤
This guy face spot is very charming point
Good
What I don't get is WHY no one uses his/her ExB as a knife or a spear. I 'stabbed' myself as a test with it, and man it hurt like a bitch and to do that you don't even have to swing it around, just a quick flip to expand it and use it as a knife.
It's end is flat, so no risk of serious wounds, but it still delivers a powerful punch to the gut, to the ribs, or even the balls....
Batons ,at the army barrcecs in Springfield mass
and you can carry them in mass
go B'S
Kia Ora Jared. What sort of baton is that? It looks way better than the ASP's we have in the NZ Police...
Benowi. Made by IPE in Germany. I think they call it the Camlock there. Heavier and much more sturdy than an ASP.
Jared is featured in their training video that is available in the US.
The first move he did you would really use a reverse cutting strike
Is it the 21 or 24 inch bonowi?
16
I think it’s 21
Why do I want to play titanfall 2 now??
DAMN IT I REALLY WANT TO HAVE ONE THEY LOOK FUN.😇😇😇😇
😉
Wicht baton is this
You from Canada?
new zealand
yea but your right side is completly open the opponent have their left arm and could pull out another weapon.
멋져요
대단하고 놀라워요 It is excellent. respect (in korea)
He didn't even use the baton?
I clicked on “fight gear and training tools” and there is literally nothing involving gear or tools on that link. It’s all just links, eye candy and click bait for their university, which I am certain is worth looking in to, but was not at all what I was looking for when I clicked on “fight gear and training tools”
From where u brought ur baton....?
Ur b
Baton is very brod
He does have to arms you know?
Who cares what the law is if your life's in danger?
it's a nikkyo position. you can't pull your arm from that lock. it will hurt like hell
in 2:50 u can just break his arm, its better to use in poland
I'm more of a ziptie guy instead of cuffs🤷♀️😆
If this guy is coming to arrest me I'll run to the nearest police station to surrender only if I can
I will try this with stick.
Disclaimer Don't practice at public.
🤣😂 You can't catch a punch like that. So everything that comes next doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you have a "Rolls Royce expensive" roof if the walls are made of cardboard. 🤙🏻
Who else is watching this instead of studying?
me😂😂
at 0:14
Let’s see if it works when he actually punches you.
Then you counter, and smash him before he can reach you - and when you hit with your baton, you hit with at least 90% of your capacity, no less. If given the opportunity, you smash with 110%. That's what I was taught.
I think these techniques are very effective and don't look as lethal as choke holds for the media. Just saying.
Why that much techniques needed?? A strike to the Face or Skull & fight Over!!!
Not really, expandable batons are generally too light and back heavy to actually knock someone out. The idea is to hit muscles to cause internal bruising to make the muscle more difficult to use and the person easier to control. And that is where the techniques come in, this isn't for civilians trying to survive a street fight, it's for LEOs, security and prison guards that don't want to knock people out but rather control them and make an arrest.
@@StormBringare Ya right..
@@Divyanshu0236
Out of curiosity, do you mean that like "ya right... you're full of shit." Or "ya right... that makes sense, thanks for clarifying."
@@StormBringare 😄Here, "Ya Right" means yes u make sense!!
@@Divyanshu0236
Cool, thanks 😁
Behind a dollarama?
Is that JD in the hood?
This will not work against an aggressive , trained attacker . The fact that you hurt his arms is meaningless. Many people have been known to keep fighting with Broken Arms. You feel the pain long after the fight.
The idea is to hit nerve endings and clusters with whip like motions so the limb is stunned or paralyzed. Then engage in a grapple to pin. Main reason why they don't go for the head right away because as soon as those nerves are numb or paralyzed all you've done is pissed em off
@@ParkorEnderman The real world fight in ghettos and bad places is different. You don’t want to be grappling with anyone no matter their state of incapacitation or how much pain they are in.
@@ParkorEnderman Thank you
I know these techniques from Arnis. Very difficult to execute on resisting attacker. Almost impossible on aggressive attacker. Much to complex for the real world. How would I iuse it? Hand, leg, face, repeat. If he closed the distance, face, takedown,. This is a great tool to keep some distance but it will not end a fight. It is better for attack than defence.
These arm trapping moves are utter nonsense without extensive training and hours of practice. Fights are fast and furious and over in the blink of an eye. A baton should be used to strike out arms, waist or legs in a massive show of force that causes the other guy to quit. A baton allows you to keep a safe defensive distance where you can hit him, but he can't hit you.
the guy literally just said strike the aggressor until he is weak enough to control. I see too many ppl watching self defense videos like these and calling it utter bullshit off the bat.
Strike him until he is out cold. Never wrap up with anyone no matter their level of capability. They might have a concealed knife and stab you. You always want to keep your distance. Kick home in the face and knock him out if you don’t want to keep striking with the baton.