Bill Burr's rant on Chewbacca is the funniest thing I've ever heard. "He's hanging out with the humans, and next thing you know, he's sitting upright in chairs, drinking little juicy juices."
As a 21 year old that watched the og star wars movies for the first time last year, they were quite enjoyable so I don't get how people say it doesn't hold up
Well it depends on whose saying it and when they saw the originals. If you saw Return of the Jedi back in the 70s or even a hit later in the 80s the effects were mind blowing, but looking back on them today the effects don’t hold up. If you’re watching it much later with the understanding that the effects aren’t gonna look good, you’re coming from a different place.
@@alejandroberrios4756 in what sense do they not hold up- particularly since they were meant to evoke old 1930s Saturday morning science fiction serials like Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers. Hence, they look perfect to me- but it has been awhile. Meantime, too many science fiction movies these days look odd to me with the CGI never quite stretching all the way across the uncanny valley - hulk in avengers for instance
Disagree heavily on the movies. Some of the special effects might not hold up, but the acting, ideas, and lack of formula allowed movies of the past to be much more pure art. Nowadays you get the feeling the movies are made based on data analysis of an audience, and not a directors pure vision of a story. Edit: in fact, I would say older movies, like Lawrence of Arabia, and Tora Tora Tora, hold up much better than CGI movies of the 2000s (Pearl Harbor, Prequel Star Wars)
If you referring to Mainstream Hollywood looking for a summer Blockbuster, I totally agree. It takes some digging, but there are good movies out there that don't have these problems. Look at some Movies produced by A24 to start. They aren't all great, but many off the beaten path, like The Witch, Ex Machina, Everything, Everywhere, All at once, Midsommar, It comes at night,. Plus many more. Just search for A24 Movies.
The Production Code that Hollywood had to follow from the mid 30's to the mid 60's meant that almost all movies had a formula. So many subjects were off-limits and the good guy always had to prevail over the bad guys, while still getting the girl, and then he had to marry the girl before they could have sex. The stories in old movies are often crap, but the performances and especially the cinematography set them apart from modern movies that contain hundreds of cuts. There is no point in painstakingly setting up a shot in a modern movie if it will only be on the screen for 2 seconds and heavily processed. If the dialog is intended to be generic and over-dubbed for non-English markets, then the script is kinda pointless too.
@@SirVic42 I agree to a point. Hitchcock made some phenomenal films in the 50s. And I believe the best animated films were the 50s and 60… as well as movies like the sound of music and Mary poppins.
Dude, when I saw Robocop, I flipped out. I must have been 10 years old. when the red head bad guy is being boiled alive….still haunts me to this day. So dope!
@@HugoStiglitz88 it’s also the literal definition of satirizing the “SO BADASS” movies of that era. Every hunky, oily dude dies and the main guy has to resort to traps and strategy rather than brawn to win. There’s also Jesse Ventura shaving a clean face in the middle of a jungle, which is comedy gold.
One of the greatest films I've ever seen is "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" which was released in 1948 and starred Humphrey Bogart. It was nominated for Best Picture that year. It was also the movie that inspired George Lucas to write "Raiders of the Lost Ark" in the 1970's. Some of my favorite films were either directed by Alfred Hitchcock or starred Humphrey Bogart.
I don't know why people post all of this inaccurate information in the age of google. "Hamlet" won best picture in 1948 and The Treasure of the Sierra Madre has nothing to do with Raiders of the Lost Ark and did not inspire its story or screenplay. There is no archaeologist in TOSM. There are no Nazis either. Finally, Bogart's character is a rude, narrow minded, and mean figure in TOSM not an epic hero like Indiana Jones. They couldn't be more unlike each other.
Exactly. Also is easy to shit on old stuff when they didn’t have access to modern filming technology and editing techniques. It is also unfair since every new generation of movies brings something new to the table to build upon.
The difference I've noticed is that older movies had simpler plots and tighter scripts. There's too much fluff and excess in most modern movies that should be cut.
i just now saw Tombstone, even though you couldn't get away from it in the 90s and man is that movie good. writers these days just take the low hanging fruit because the low hanging fruit pays millions, the Hobbs and Shaw, the Oceans 18s, the Ghostbuster's remake of remakes of remakes. gotta feed themselves somehow.
The only awful take here is Joe saying old movies suck compared to nowadays. There have been terrible movies in every era, (most are) but the good ones always hold up. Casablanca is an incredible film. Gold Rush by Charlie Chaplin was funny even without sound. I was shocked to see not only how good, but how relatable they were even though they're 80-100 years old.
Yeah, a lot of the progress cited is technological progress in film, not simply acting. The older films featured different cultural and stylistic forms of human expressivity that I appreciate.
Bill says he doesn't understand Star Wars, but he showed up for that paycheck on the Mandalorian, which tells me he understands Star Wars just fine. Lucas would tell you himself, "It's all about making money."
Yeah, he also has a way when he’s digging it a point that you really disagree with to kind of flip it to where you see it from another point of view and ends up winning the whole audience, he’s also one of the few white, comedians, or even black comedians that can do racial humor, and make it equally funny for both races, and both races are laughing for the same reason
This. He's the only guy who can say something that would otherwise make me physically angry and instead I'm laughing and almost agreeing with him lol. As someone who at least once a year watches the LOTR director's cut trilogy in one sitting (a good 11-12 hours or so), if it was anyone but Bill saying this shit I'd be throwing my phone against the wall😂
I think it helps that he constantly emphasizes how little he knows about the things he's trashing (if that's the case). He knows when he's coming from a place of ignorance and doesn't expect his opinion to be taken seriously.
My only complaint about LOTR is not including "The Scouring Of The Shire" chapter at the end of Return Of The King. My favorite chapter of the whole collection. Then Sam going over on the ship as the last of the ring bearers in the epilogue.
I think it's the opposite older movies hold more magic for me. They were much harder to get made so the art of them is better and they were more cared for. Movies today are just mostly forgettable. Movies are slicker today but the art is lessened.
It depends on the movie. I like movies from the 80s and 90s, when they were still using analog film stock. The image just looks way better and more natural with the colors and the film grain, than these new all-digital cameras, it looks like everything is made out of smoothed out play-dough. But anything older than that I find them kind of strange. The pacing and everything is just slightly off. And I actually like very slow paced, contemplative movies, like the "colours" trilogy but older movies aren't like that. Its just weird and hard to explain what I mean. I guess I would say they aren't immersive, it feels like you're really watching something separate from reality rather than a window into another world that really absorbs your imagination. That's what it feels like to me. Maybe its because I didn't grow up during that time so I can't relate to it, that could be the reason. But I completely agree, movies nowadays totally suck for the most part, its just following a formula and algorithms based on what will make the most money (For the most part with the big studio movies, but there are still a few gems here and there every once in a while)
@@tekharthazenyatta2310 I tried to explain it the best I could using examples and context. And I only used the word "like" as a comparison word, or to mean "such as," or to express approval. You're trying to make me sound like a teenag egirl when in fact, I didn't use it as a filler word in a single instance.
Lost my oldest son last year, 51, fire-smoke inhalation by going back in trying to save his & wife's kitten who also perished. I have to watch these videos to help me get back to somewhere.
Your son was one of the good ones, what the rest of us on Earth are trying to emulate and work toward because his actions were based completely on compassion and love, and not about catering to the self. Sorry man
That and Easy Rider working so well for audiences kinda pushed old-hollywood really quickly out, it was over in a night. Both amazing movies. But they are those first ones from US that doesn't have that 60's certain kinda vibe and style to them but goes for more realistic feeling. Still movies like Rear Window or 12 Angry Men even from 50's are just great to watch, so entertaining even tho both actually happen to be basically one room movies (but that just tells you how strong the script have to be so the movie works mainly in one room). I think the argument that they talked unnatural or whatever is kinda bs since that happens still when mainstream movies come out that is just mostly exposition and one-liners, nobody talks like that either. Movie is good if it pulls you in it and manages to make you excited and huge plus is if it even makes you think really no matter the age of it.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 I'll check both of those out soon. Honestly I haven't seen enough old movies I'm 29. But you're so right about that, so many mainstream movies feel fake now anyways, so why not? I like to buy into the world of a movie for 2 hours to escape life so it doesn't need to be super realistic' all the time.
@@love-ip7sz I'm 30 but I have been quite huge cinephile since kid so I just have checked out a lot of decades and differend countries. But yeah it was a lot about method acting coming to america from russia with the likes of Stella Adler who taught Marlon Brando for example. That's why Brando was so big since he was doing it differently with the oldschool movies while being able to fit that type of world, but also could easily make the transition into new hollywood and be for example in Godfather since his way of acting fitted the new more realistic approach aswell. Anyway other example would be animation, it can be so out of the real world norms but it doesn't take away from the entertainment value. There still was for a loong time that "cartoons are for kids" mentality (even tho Simpsons being on air since 80's-early 90's) because they weren't taken serious since people had that fixed mindset of them. It's kinda same thing that some people now have with 50-60's movies, it's just a mindset thing. If something works it works 😅 People ofcourse can have preferences but just counting out two decades of movies... alll of them, that's kinda big blanket statement to make. As a last thing this all got me thinking of Sin City that borrows a lot from oldschool noir, is super stylized and have nothing to do with realism and it's amazing movie. The examples are pretty much endless if you think about it.
Jon Favreau thought it would be hilarious to cast him since he bashes on Star Wars all the time. I think it's hilarious. Plus he brings in that attitude that Harrison Ford brought where he could care less but also wants to do a good job.
I love when people who enjoy watching sports, can't see the irony when they criticize people loving the shit they loved as kids and still loves. Sports, adults playing ball, and its fine but the same as liking Star Wars etc.
But Star Wars is a total of what 16 hours of content? There’s only so much there even if you add in the shows and comics. Sports is current, there’s always new players, trades, highs and lows of careers. Plus it’s actually REAL lol
@@chestercheeto9768 yeah but plenty of grown men cry when their team scores lol , over someone kicking a ball, your gunna cry? Lmao. At least Star Wars has emotions we can connect to
@@chestercheeto9768 The entire point of art is the deeper meaning behind it and how it effects/ helps you understand the world we live in. Films like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are full of illuminating content that can be and has been discussed for 100's of hours in a way that actually shapes the way people live their lives. eg- Frodo, the most incorruptible character of the film, being unable to willingly destroy the ring at the end of his quest speaks volumes of the human condition. Anakin's love that caused him to destroy all that he held dear because he did not have his priorities straight is similar. Sports is fleeting, no reflection on the nature of reality nor providing a new way of looking at the world. Vacuous entertainment that steals your time without giving anything back.
I adore that Bill singing club techno still has his signature boop-boops in it and his female voice saying "ohmygod." Thank you very much for making that your end-of-video music.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Guess what? We want them even longer. Imagine trying to condense such a marvelous and big journey into a 1.5hr movie. The taste on some people, yikes.
Wow, did Bill do a clean act? I remember he said he used to go clean back in the day.. and Regan is a pretty clean guy.. it would be kinda weird to put them both together today.
I'll bite: Dude, there's a whole planet of Wookies. It was the one planet the Empire couldn't take control of. Fun fact: Chewbacca had a speech impediment, and normal Wookie speech was even more gutteral and indecipherable than he was. They are communicating complex thought and are a highly intelligent lifeform. The only lifeform to reach Kardashev 1 status without using synthesis and the like. All the materials they use remain, to some degree, in their natural state. Now all that's left to do is wait for the cries of: "Nerd!!!" to commence.
Heavy metal music got at least as much shit as disco did. Blamed for murders and school shootings, vilified and censored up the ass by Tipper Gore and Brent Bozell types. and that’s just society in general. Fans of it would get picked on or labeled an outcast, punished by parents, teachers, etc.
During the Satanic Panic I had to smuggle albums into my house and hide them from my mother. Bands like Helloween, iron maiden, motley crew etc etc ....never once did I think about anything other than rocking out to really cool music. During the senate hearing with Tipper Gore etc etc John Denver spoke against censorship.....Yip John Denver! That says it all 🤣
Bill's not really a movie enthusiast. I kind of like the stylized way people spoke in old movies. It was charming. Nowadays everyone complains if a movie isnt just like real life, while I cant hear what the actors are mumbling.
@@JJ-nu8qi They have these things called "hearing aids" that you can purchase to help you hear. Hearing aids are going to become more and more common amongst people because of headphone damage to their hearing. I was poking fun, but maybe you do have a hearing problem. Plus, if you live in the USA (greatest country in the world, not) you may not be able to afford medical if you work. Have a good day mate, 2 years from the future. hehehehehehehehe
@GentleButBrave I am somewhat deaf from my service, but that's not the reason I can't hear it. The music and commercial and action scenes are so much louder than dialog. I'd like it if it was balanced it better. Trust me, I hear lots of people complaining about this not just myself.
Because the LotR extended versions have intermissions, I think the best way is to watch the movies in 6 2-hour parts - the story is supposed to be in 6 parts anyway, and I've read it was only released as 3 books for economic reasons.
You’re supposed to sit down and watch all 3 extended editions back to back to back. That’s the only way. It’s hard to do when you don’t have an adult attention span
"Movies prove that we have progressed and advanced as a species" Or maybe taste and sensibilities have just changed? Acting has historically never been about perfectly imitating reality, that's just the zeitgeist of the time and the expectation that current audiences hold when walking into a theater. Rogan is such a meathead.
Not to mention, he's suggesting they are also the 'clearest' indicator of advancement. If he doesn't see more obvious indications of 'advancement' than shifts in cultural standards in filmmaking styles, he is truly a moron.
@@leecameron9226 In this episode Joe Rogan regressed to the meathead he is at root level. It's really only his guests that occasionally raise the intellectual content.
"The movies of the past so many of them are so clunky and the style of communicating is so artificial, it's such a shit representation of life." I don't know how high or confused Joe was when he said that gem of knowledge but actually mostly the opposite is true. Older movies had to have some motivating factor other than tits and ass added with CGI and flash cuts to motivate the audience to actually see movies. From roughly the 2000's onward good movies are very hard to find whereas the movies I thought weren't as good in the 80's feel like masterpieces right know. Even younger kids are realizing that there was something more interesting in movies which are not from this mostly market driven era of movie making. There are some good newer movies but very few
@Rigbone sounds like you only have attempted to watch marvel movies. I can list off 20 movies that were made post 2000's that are on par or even better than anything made in the 70's/80's/90's. I'll give you that people were able to take more risks back then, sure, but that'll come back around
@@raegenkeller7838 I think the actors were more charismatic back in the day, I don't know why. There's no modern equivalent to Nicholson, Newman, Brando or even Clint Eastwood.
Watched it the first time late night and tired and thought this is one of the funniest bits ever. I watched it again this morning fully energized and thought this is probably the smartest and most accurate bit ever.
Yes, he's an actor. Not a fan. You know who else doesn't get Star Wars and dislikes sci fi? Harrison Ford. Or how about Alec Guiness? Liking a story isn't a prerequisite to taking an acting job related to it.
May be clunky but still prefer the acting from the 30s to 60s. There was melodrama in there that I loved. Also the actors were not arsty like those snubs from the actor studios. Gable drank scotch between scenes. These guys would just show up and do the scene, not spend days studying and trying to become the character or whatever the crap. Those were what movies were all about. The OGs.
WTF? LOTR and Star Wars IV, V & VI are my favorite movie series of all time. They are fantastic films, though I understand someone feeling like LOTR is too long (I dont think so, but I get it if you do) Love your comedy Bill... but I don't think you know shit about what a good or bad film is. Curious how Bill feels about classics like "Back to the Future". If you don't like BTTF, we can't be friends :P
@@stolensentience I can understand some people not liking ROTJ as much as the previous two... but to call it "pretty bad" is laughable. Speeder Bikes on Endor - Great Rancor - Great Jabba - Great Gold Bikini - SUPERB Emperor - Great Vader Redemption - AMAZING Yoda's death - Impactful / Enlightening The 3 part final battle sequence - Fantastic Sure the remastered version has that terrible Jabba Palace Musical extension... but thats hardly enough to make ROTJ objectively a "bad movie".
Christ, Joe's lack of knowledge or even common sense regarding film, never fails to startle me ; how can he think Jaws 3-D came out in the 60's or 70's?
I wouldn't say the 1960s. The 1950s gave us a lot of great movies like 12 Angry Men, those Hitchcock movies like Rear Window and North by Northwest, one of my personal favorites in Singin' in the Rain. I think the cut-off point is anything before 1940.
Movies back then haven't become clunky, movies appeal more and more to the lowest common denominator. The Godfather could never be made nowadays, at least not for theaters. It would become straight to streaming like The Irishman.
"If you want to give someone a dream, write a book; if you want to share with someone your dream, make a movie." - TEMjr I agree that old movies typically suck, but the idea of movies when people had such little experience with T.V. or movies was to show them a world that doesn't exist to show them what might be. I always hated those old movies when the dialogue just breaks into a damn song for a long time with all the people around getting involved.
In like 1980 they made a Star Wars Christmas wookie special right after the first Star Wars. Lucas didnt write it , he let them do it to take heat off making Empire Strikes back. It was so bad that it disappeared and you cant rent or buy it even today
Bill Burr is so disrespectful with his contempt. It's one of the greatest thing to witness someone who was so much contempt for most of the world and expressing it through pure jokes and unfiltered anger!
If you're going to be wrong about Sci/Fi Fantasy, be *Incredibly* wrong about it. Frodo needed Dumbledores help to destroy the Deathstar. It was a scene-by-scene remake of the original Startreck.
After being in Star Wars and seeing how cool it feels to be a character and on set, it's funny that he's changed his tune on understanding why people love SW so much.
Lost so much respect for Bill. Yes, there are movies that look 'cheesy' and are objectively 'bad'. But technology has also made filmmakers lazy. Star Wars and LOTR are still some of the greatest movies ever made. The Thing is probably the best horror movie ever made and has that stop motion animation/etc.
Lotr is a collection of movie making mastery, Star Wars....not that much, the original trilogy is of course worth a watch but pretty much everything made after them is dog shit as far as good quality movies go.
Feigning ignorance is a great way to have fun with somebody's passion lol plus it's a great way to pick up on when someone is doing it to you and you can laugh and respect the play
The movies of the 90s are still gold tho. Shawshank? PERFECTION! And my personal favorite, the Usual Suspects, God tier. Hell even Michael Bay made a cool movie in the 90s (THE ROCK). His best movie other than PAIN and Gain (that movie is legit HILARIOUS and a good story)
Name a movie you find overrated? 🤔👇🏻
For Meeeeee - It’s the Harry Potter series
Any Christopher Nolan movies i.e. Inception and Dark Knight
Titanic.
Most if not ALL of the marvel movies lol
Blade runner....weird keyboard music and dark rainy boring sets....gloomy and boring 😅
My kid watched Bill on the Mandalorian.
His comment: "How can a guy look like he is 30 and 60 years old at the same time?"
What we've been asking for decades now lmao
Your kid gets it
Lmao hell yea I can't unsee it now
True! 😁
Your kid's comment made me laugh harder than Bill trashing everything 🤣
Bill Burr's rant on Chewbacca is the funniest thing I've ever heard. "He's hanging out with the humans, and next thing you know, he's sitting upright in chairs, drinking little juicy juices."
Most Boomberiest take of all Boomer takes
He's so fucking funny sometimes 😂
Imagine if he gets paired with a wookie in a future Star Wars show.
@@TheRoyalFino that would be hilarious
Kyle dunnigans character who has only read the books thinks chewy is like a little dog . Hilarious
As a 21 year old that watched the og star wars movies for the first time last year, they were quite enjoyable so I don't get how people say it doesn't hold up
People are hard to please
Well it depends on whose saying it and when they saw the originals. If you saw Return of the Jedi back in the 70s or even a hit later in the 80s the effects were mind blowing, but looking back on them today the effects don’t hold up. If you’re watching it much later with the understanding that the effects aren’t gonna look good, you’re coming from a different place.
@@alejandroberrios4756 in what sense do they not hold up- particularly since they were meant to evoke old 1930s Saturday morning science fiction serials like Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers. Hence, they look perfect to me- but it has been awhile. Meantime, too many science fiction movies these days look odd to me with the CGI never quite stretching all the way across the uncanny valley - hulk in avengers for instance
They are brilliant films, they don't make em like that anymore.
@@alejandroberrios4756 One of the few movies where it kind of does hold up cause its all practical haha
Disagree heavily on the movies. Some of the special effects might not hold up, but the acting, ideas, and lack of formula allowed movies of the past to be much more pure art. Nowadays you get the feeling the movies are made based on data analysis of an audience, and not a directors pure vision of a story. Edit: in fact, I would say older movies, like Lawrence of Arabia, and Tora Tora Tora, hold up much better than CGI movies of the 2000s (Pearl Harbor, Prequel Star Wars)
I would say that the popularization of CGI is actually a sign that the arts have regressed. We've prioritized technology to artistry and creativity.
If you referring to Mainstream Hollywood looking for a summer Blockbuster, I totally agree. It takes some digging, but there are good movies out there that don't have these problems. Look at some Movies produced by A24 to start. They aren't all great, but many off the beaten path, like The Witch, Ex Machina, Everything, Everywhere, All at once, Midsommar, It comes at night,. Plus many more. Just search for A24 Movies.
The Production Code that Hollywood had to follow from the mid 30's to the mid 60's meant that almost all movies had a formula. So many subjects were off-limits and the good guy always had to prevail over the bad guys, while still getting the girl, and then he had to marry the girl before they could have sex. The stories in old movies are often crap, but the performances and especially the cinematography set them apart from modern movies that contain hundreds of cuts. There is no point in painstakingly setting up a shot in a modern movie if it will only be on the screen for 2 seconds and heavily processed. If the dialog is intended to be generic and over-dubbed for non-English markets, then the script is kinda pointless too.
@@SirVic42 I agree to a point. Hitchcock made some phenomenal films in the 50s. And I believe the best animated films were the 50s and 60… as well as movies like the sound of music and Mary poppins.
Whats a tora tora tora??
You know what you can watch over and over? Original RoboCop and Predator. Good shit.
Dude, when I saw Robocop, I flipped out. I must have been 10 years old. when the red head bad guy is being boiled alive….still haunts me to this day. So dope!
Especially Predator. That movie is the literal definition of badass
Terminator 1 and 2, Predator, Robocop. 100%
@@HugoStiglitz88 it’s also the literal definition of satirizing the “SO BADASS” movies of that era. Every hunky, oily dude dies and the main guy has to resort to traps and strategy rather than brawn to win.
There’s also Jesse Ventura shaving a clean face in the middle of a jungle, which is comedy gold.
the thing too
One of the greatest films I've ever seen is "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" which was released in 1948 and starred Humphrey Bogart. It was nominated for Best Picture that year. It was also the movie that inspired George Lucas to write "Raiders of the Lost Ark" in the 1970's. Some of my favorite films were either directed by Alfred Hitchcock or starred Humphrey Bogart.
I didn’t know that was a movie. Must have inspired fallout new Vegas’s dlc.
Bogy is a legend. Easily one of my all time favorite actors.
I don't know why people post all of this inaccurate information in the age of google. "Hamlet" won best picture in 1948 and The Treasure of the Sierra Madre has nothing to do with Raiders of the Lost Ark and did not inspire its story or screenplay. There is no archaeologist in TOSM. There are no Nazis either. Finally, Bogart's character is a rude, narrow minded, and mean figure in TOSM not an epic hero like Indiana Jones. They couldn't be more unlike each other.
Treasure of the Sierra Madre is not just good for the time, it's still amazing. I love that movie
Masterpiece!
So many of the old movies had better plots and better dialog than most of the crap today.
Exactly. Also is easy to shit on old stuff when they didn’t have access to modern filming technology and editing techniques. It is also unfair since every new generation of movies brings something new to the table to build upon.
to be fair we only watch the good old films. noone goes out of the way to watch old garbage
The difference I've noticed is that older movies had simpler plots and tighter scripts. There's too much fluff and excess in most modern movies that should be cut.
i just now saw Tombstone, even though you couldn't get away from it in the 90s and man is that movie good. writers these days just take the low hanging fruit because the low hanging fruit pays millions, the Hobbs and Shaw, the Oceans 18s, the Ghostbuster's remake of remakes of remakes. gotta feed themselves somehow.
Most modern movies are woke forced diversity anti white propaganda.
The only awful take here is Joe saying old movies suck compared to nowadays. There have been terrible movies in every era, (most are) but the good ones always hold up. Casablanca is an incredible film. Gold Rush by Charlie Chaplin was funny even without sound. I was shocked to see not only how good, but how relatable they were even though they're 80-100 years old.
Joe's an idiot.
Modern movies are horrible, Joe is just an easily entertained dude-bro.
Yeah, a lot of the progress cited is technological progress in film, not simply acting. The older films featured different cultural and stylistic forms of human expressivity that I appreciate.
@@Sidera17 Yep. Check out Buster Keaton too. My favorite of the silent era.
Sunrise.
Bill says he doesn't understand Star Wars, but he showed up for that paycheck on the Mandalorian, which tells me he understands Star Wars just fine. Lucas would tell you himself, "It's all about making money."
Someone had to say it
I have to laugh, there's actually a Bill Burr Star Wars action figure now. And I totally bet he has one.
If i were bill i would have many of them all in different action poses, I would also bring one with me anywhere i went to sit it with me
@@drakoan I would give them to everyone for christmas haha
I disagree with Bill Burr on so many things, but he is so damn funny I can’t help but love him!!!!
Yeah, he also has a way when he’s digging it a point that you really disagree with to kind of flip it to where you see it from another point of view and ends up winning the whole audience, he’s also one of the few white, comedians, or even black comedians that can do racial humor, and make it equally funny for both races, and both races are laughing for the same reason
This. He's the only guy who can say something that would otherwise make me physically angry and instead I'm laughing and almost agreeing with him lol. As someone who at least once a year watches the LOTR director's cut trilogy in one sitting (a good 11-12 hours or so), if it was anyone but Bill saying this shit I'd be throwing my phone against the wall😂
I think it helps that he constantly emphasizes how little he knows about the things he's trashing (if that's the case). He knows when he's coming from a place of ignorance and doesn't expect his opinion to be taken seriously.
You nailed it @Guyonnn. I love the original Star Wars, but damn he is funny on his take.
Meanwhile…. I’m over here with my Bill Burr Star Wars action figure. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ron Howard and bald Eminem was out of stock, so now I've got a blow up, life size one
My only complaint about LOTR is that they aren’t longer 😆 they’re masterpieces and I love every second.
Amen. I’m still yearning for the ultra special 6hour geek-cut of all six Jackson movies!
My only complaint about LOTR is not including "The Scouring Of The Shire" chapter at the end of Return Of The King. My favorite chapter of the whole collection. Then Sam going over on the ship as the last of the ring bearers in the epilogue.
Timeless films
Sure, but can we agree The Hobbit, which is shorter than Fellowship, should have been one movie?
They're complete 🗑️🗑️
I think it's the opposite older movies hold more magic for me. They were much harder to get made so the art of them is better and they were more cared for. Movies today are just mostly forgettable. Movies are slicker today but the art is lessened.
Not really just easier to make movies same as games music everything so you see more shit
It depends on the movie. I like movies from the 80s and 90s, when they were still using analog film stock. The image just looks way better and more natural with the colors and the film grain, than these new all-digital cameras, it looks like everything is made out of smoothed out play-dough. But anything older than that I find them kind of strange. The pacing and everything is just slightly off. And I actually like very slow paced, contemplative movies, like the "colours" trilogy but older movies aren't like that. Its just weird and hard to explain what I mean. I guess I would say they aren't immersive, it feels like you're really watching something separate from reality rather than a window into another world that really absorbs your imagination. That's what it feels like to me. Maybe its because I didn't grow up during that time so I can't relate to it, that could be the reason. But I completely agree, movies nowadays totally suck for the most part, its just following a formula and algorithms based on what will make the most money (For the most part with the big studio movies, but there are still a few gems here and there every once in a while)
Nah, it's just you, kids living right now will say the same stuff in 30 years
@@Eralen00 It's like...uhh...so weird like, ya know? That's a great explanation of what you don't like about films more than 30 or 40 years old.
@@tekharthazenyatta2310 I tried to explain it the best I could using examples and context. And I only used the word "like" as a comparison word, or to mean "such as," or to express approval. You're trying to make me sound like a teenag egirl when in fact, I didn't use it as a filler word in a single instance.
Came here for Burr, stayed for the top notch animation
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Lost my oldest son last year, 51, fire-smoke inhalation by going back in trying to save his & wife's kitten who also perished. I have to watch these videos to help me get back to somewhere.
That’s really sad. I’m so sorry to hear that.
Sometimes we make mistakes that proof way more costly than we initially anticipated.
I’m rooting for you, stay strong 💙
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Stupid
Your son was one of the good ones, what the rest of us on Earth are trying to emulate and work toward because his actions were based completely on compassion and love, and not about catering to the self. Sorry man
Midnight Cowboy was made in the late sixties and I think it's one of the most emotionally impactful movies ever
That and Easy Rider working so well for audiences kinda pushed old-hollywood really quickly out, it was over in a night. Both amazing movies. But they are those first ones from US that doesn't have that 60's certain kinda vibe and style to them but goes for more realistic feeling. Still movies like Rear Window or 12 Angry Men even from 50's are just great to watch, so entertaining even tho both actually happen to be basically one room movies (but that just tells you how strong the script have to be so the movie works mainly in one room). I think the argument that they talked unnatural or whatever is kinda bs since that happens still when mainstream movies come out that is just mostly exposition and one-liners, nobody talks like that either. Movie is good if it pulls you in it and manages to make you excited and huge plus is if it even makes you think really no matter the age of it.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 I'll check both of those out soon. Honestly I haven't seen enough old movies I'm 29. But you're so right about that, so many mainstream movies feel fake now anyways, so why not? I like to buy into the world of a movie for 2 hours to escape life so it doesn't need to be super realistic' all the time.
@@love-ip7sz I'm 30 but I have been quite huge cinephile since kid so I just have checked out a lot of decades and differend countries. But yeah it was a lot about method acting coming to america from russia with the likes of Stella Adler who taught Marlon Brando for example. That's why Brando was so big since he was doing it differently with the oldschool movies while being able to fit that type of world, but also could easily make the transition into new hollywood and be for example in Godfather since his way of acting fitted the new more realistic approach aswell. Anyway other example would be animation, it can be so out of the real world norms but it doesn't take away from the entertainment value. There still was for a loong time that "cartoons are for kids" mentality (even tho Simpsons being on air since 80's-early 90's) because they weren't taken serious since people had that fixed mindset of them. It's kinda same thing that some people now have with 50-60's movies, it's just a mindset thing. If something works it works 😅 People ofcourse can have preferences but just counting out two decades of movies... alll of them, that's kinda big blanket statement to make. As a last thing this all got me thinking of Sin City that borrows a lot from oldschool noir, is super stylized and have nothing to do with realism and it's amazing movie. The examples are pretty much endless if you think about it.
Plus, you can yank off to it
IN Midnight Cowboy, what happens that is NEVER shown on screen with Jon Voight?
Bill Burr: Star Wars is shit, it doesn't hold up.
Also Bill Burr: Hey I'm in a new Star Wars show everybody!
He clearly did it for the paycheck & that’s fine. A lot of the actors that are in the MCU didn’t grow up reading the comic books.
Yea agree it’s a job and gotta pay the bills
At least his acting was good too lol
Jon Favreau thought it would be hilarious to cast him since he bashes on Star Wars all the time. I think it's hilarious. Plus he brings in that attitude that Harrison Ford brought where he could care less but also wants to do a good job.
He was given the role in Mandalorian BECAUSE he wasnt a Star Wars fan. That role was written for him specifically.
I love when people who enjoy watching sports, can't see the irony when they criticize people loving the shit they loved as kids and still loves. Sports, adults playing ball, and its fine but the same as liking Star Wars etc.
So true. 😄
Fucking well said.
But Star Wars is a total of what 16 hours of content? There’s only so much there even if you add in the shows and comics. Sports is current, there’s always new players, trades, highs and lows of careers. Plus it’s actually REAL lol
@@chestercheeto9768 yeah but plenty of grown men cry when their team scores lol , over someone kicking a ball, your gunna cry? Lmao. At least Star Wars has emotions we can connect to
@@chestercheeto9768 The entire point of art is the deeper meaning behind it and how it effects/ helps you understand the world we live in. Films like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are full of illuminating content that can be and has been discussed for 100's of hours in a way that actually shapes the way people live their lives. eg- Frodo, the most incorruptible character of the film, being unable to willingly destroy the ring at the end of his quest speaks volumes of the human condition. Anakin's love that caused him to destroy all that he held dear because he did not have his priorities straight is similar.
Sports is fleeting, no reflection on the nature of reality nor providing a new way of looking at the world. Vacuous entertainment that steals your time without giving anything back.
I adore that Bill singing club techno still has his signature boop-boops in it and his female voice saying "ohmygod." Thank you very much for making that your end-of-video music.
LOTR is fucking timeless and forever fantastic.
It is fantastic sir love that stuff fantastic! I LOVE star wars also 😨❤
It's the definition of timeless
timeless meaning they take forever
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 maybe if you didn't have the attention span of a woman you'd like them more
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Guess what? We want them even longer.
Imagine trying to condense such a marvelous and big journey into a 1.5hr movie.
The taste on some people, yikes.
Bill as Migs Mayfield on Mandalorian was so good, we need some more of that character and Burrs point of view in Star Wars.
Bill lost me when he thought Star Wars was sci-fi. 🤣
Seriously though, even as a nerd, as soon as Bill starts a rant, it's always hysterical.
I'm 58 and never seen Star Wars, and never will!
What a badass
do you want your first cookie too ?
@@harorider96 yeah adults who still except to be blown away by a movie never will unless u hire a top director
"There's not that many Wookies."
*Star Wars Holiday Special has entered the chat*
Can you imagine watching Bill Burr on the Mandalorian and then realizing he had no idea what show he was on.
Much Love Yall!
Saw Bill Burr in Dec of 2001 opening for Brian Regan. Been a fan ever since and has never disappointed
Wow, did Bill do a clean act? I remember he said he used to go clean back in the day.. and Regan is a pretty clean guy.. it would be kinda weird to put them both together today.
I'll bite: Dude, there's a whole planet of Wookies. It was the one planet the Empire couldn't take control of. Fun fact: Chewbacca had a speech impediment, and normal Wookie speech was even more gutteral and indecipherable than he was. They are communicating complex thought and are a highly intelligent lifeform. The only lifeform to reach Kardashev 1 status without using synthesis and the like. All the materials they use remain, to some degree, in their natural state. Now all that's left to do is wait for the cries of: "Nerd!!!" to commence.
Hey Greg you arent in high school anymore brother. You dont have to project your bullying
I'll bite. Nerd! Lol
What’s a Kardashev? Was that originals or prequel?
No, that’s really cool..!🤓
Yeah but those lizard mofos kept them under control.
Heavy metal music got at least as much shit as disco did. Blamed for murders and school shootings, vilified and censored up the ass by Tipper Gore and Brent Bozell types. and that’s just society in general. Fans of it would get picked on or labeled an outcast, punished by parents, teachers, etc.
During the Satanic Panic I had to smuggle albums into my house and hide them from my mother. Bands like Helloween, iron maiden, motley crew etc etc ....never once did I think about anything other than rocking out to really cool music. During the senate hearing with Tipper Gore etc etc John Denver spoke against censorship.....Yip John Denver! That says it all 🤣
@georgegershwin327 what an idiot 😂
Bill's not really a movie enthusiast. I kind of like the stylized way people spoke in old movies. It was charming. Nowadays everyone complains if a movie isnt just like real life, while I cant hear what the actors are mumbling.
It's why I watch most movies with the subtitles turned on - you can't understand half of the dialogue without them.
It is odd because people constantly mumble in real life. I kind of enjoy the older movies where dialog is easy to hear and understand.
Transatlantic accents were the worst
@@JJ-nu8qi They have these things called "hearing aids" that you can purchase to help you hear. Hearing aids are going to become more and more common amongst people because of headphone damage to their hearing.
I was poking fun, but maybe you do have a hearing problem. Plus, if you live in the USA (greatest country in the world, not) you may not be able to afford medical if you work. Have a good day mate, 2 years from the future. hehehehehehehehe
@GentleButBrave I am somewhat deaf from my service, but that's not the reason I can't hear it. The music and commercial and action scenes are so much louder than dialog. I'd like it if it was balanced it better. Trust me, I hear lots of people complaining about this not just myself.
Then he goes and acts in the Mandalorian 😂 . What a flex
Yea the only reason to watch any of the the Disney star wars
20 bucks says Joe knew what Hoth was
Because the LotR extended versions have intermissions, I think the best way is to watch the movies in 6 2-hour parts - the story is supposed to be in 6 parts anyway, and I've read it was only released as 3 books for economic reasons.
You’re supposed to sit down and watch all 3 extended editions back to back to back. That’s the only way. It’s hard to do when you don’t have an adult attention span
Binge that sh*t the whole day, they are so enjoyable that way.
Quite the opposite. Tolkien wrote 1 book. It was the publisher that requested the division.
Looks like you're right, thanks for the correction. Shoulda fact-checked that one :p@@jonathanaliff6121
That ending tune of Bill .. I want that as a ringtone. lol
Double Indemnity is a nice really old one that's still a pretty good watch today.
Citizen Kane Psycho On the Waterfront Casablanca Gone with the Wind Vertigo 12 angry men theres so many great OLD movies that have aged so well
"Movies prove that we have progressed and advanced as a species"
Or maybe taste and sensibilities have just changed? Acting has historically never been about perfectly imitating reality, that's just the zeitgeist of the time and the expectation that current audiences hold when walking into a theater. Rogan is such a meathead.
Not to mention, he's suggesting they are also the 'clearest' indicator of advancement. If he doesn't see more obvious indications of 'advancement' than shifts in cultural standards in filmmaking styles, he is truly a moron.
Movies have regressed with this Tik tok and fortnite generation it's so cringe too see it referenced in comedy now
@@leecameron9226 In this episode Joe Rogan regressed to the meathead he is at root level. It's really only his guests that occasionally raise the intellectual content.
“Almost Famous” is a 4 hour movie about a guy proud to be in the friend zone.
This makes zero sense.
"I am a golden god"
That movie made me fall in love with Kate Hudson tho she was brilliant in that movie.
"The movies of the past so many of them are so clunky and the style of communicating is so artificial, it's such a shit representation of life." I don't know how high or confused Joe was when he said that gem of knowledge but actually mostly the opposite is true. Older movies had to have some motivating factor other than tits and ass added with CGI and flash cuts to motivate the audience to actually see movies. From roughly the 2000's onward good movies are very hard to find whereas the movies I thought weren't as good in the 80's feel like masterpieces right know. Even younger kids are realizing that there was something more interesting in movies which are not from this mostly market driven era of movie making. There are some good newer movies but very few
I thibk he mrant movies up to like early 60s, when many actors kind of overplayed stuff, theater style
@@Mightning That might be true
Nostalgia is a helluva drug
@Rigbone sounds like you only have attempted to watch marvel movies. I can list off 20 movies that were made post 2000's that are on par or even better than anything made in the 70's/80's/90's. I'll give you that people were able to take more risks back then, sure, but that'll come back around
@@raegenkeller7838 I think the actors were more charismatic back in the day, I don't know why. There's no modern equivalent to Nicholson, Newman, Brando or even Clint Eastwood.
Watched it the first time late night and tired and thought this is one of the funniest bits ever. I watched it again this morning fully energized and thought this is probably the smartest and most accurate bit ever.
Being a huge LOTR and Star Wars fan, this is so triggering to me.
I'm not a massive fan of either but they still hold up pretty well. It's not just nostalgia glasses.
‘Riders of roGan’ ☺️
I'm not even the biggest fan of those series but Bill really was cringe af here.
And now he's a major character in Star Wars. Hilarious.
They even gave him an action figure! Haha
I wouldnt say major. Darth Vader is major. C3PO is major.
Bill??? You're in a Star Wars related TV show??? And you're awesome in it!!
The minimalistic animation is brilliant!!!
Seriously, The Apartment (1960) is one of the greatest films ever made.
I watched it when I was too young (about 11) and was bored senseless. Really need to give it a rewatch sometime
What pod is this from? Or is it an old JRE.
Old movies might be clunky, because they didn't have the technology we have these days. But the storytelling, craft and scripting were so much better
Is there anyway I can get that ending song for my alarm clock?
Bill Burr: doesn't get star wars and dislikes sci-fi
Also Bill Burr: Can I please have a role in the Star Wars? Please?
Yes, he's an actor. Not a fan. You know who else doesn't get Star Wars and dislikes sci fi? Harrison Ford. Or how about Alec Guiness? Liking a story isn't a prerequisite to taking an acting job related to it.
@@ShootMeMovieReviews you're 109% right but the game still pay your salary so maybe fake it a little...lol
Where is this from?
"there's nothin better than havin like 10% knowledge" haha. You don't need to tell Joe that
Yet he remembers Hoth
What is this from?
Bill’s ability to rant is astounding
And Rogan's ability to fuck up Bill's flow with over the top sound effects and stupid, obnoxious ideas is unparalleled.
That Star Wars fans vs. Star Trek fans meme hit me where my heart lives.
Joe Rogan with the muscular build and Bill a stick figure is too good😂
"There's a federation of Wookies!!!"
The stick figure killed me lol
Bill was above Joe's average Golum reference.
You know he's only fucking around. You can't take him seriously. He is brutally honest and some people don't like it.
May be clunky but still prefer the acting from the 30s to 60s. There was melodrama in there that I loved. Also the actors were not arsty like those snubs from the actor studios. Gable drank scotch between scenes. These guys would just show up and do the scene, not spend days studying and trying to become the character or whatever the crap. Those were what movies were all about. The OGs.
Cool clip . Enjoyed the montage. Entertained I was .
WTF? LOTR and Star Wars IV, V & VI are my favorite movie series of all time. They are fantastic films, though I understand someone feeling like LOTR is too long (I dont think so, but I get it if you do)
Love your comedy Bill... but I don't think you know shit about what a good or bad film is.
Curious how Bill feels about classics like "Back to the Future". If you don't like BTTF, we can't be friends :P
Return if the Jedi is a terrible movie no matter how you look at it. It’s actually laughably bad.
@@cactaceous It's okay, you're allowed to be wrong.
@@m.collier708 Likewise.
@@m.collier708ROTJ is pretty bad. The first two are legendary but ROTJ was not in their league
@@stolensentience I can understand some people not liking ROTJ as much as the previous two... but to call it "pretty bad" is laughable.
Speeder Bikes on Endor - Great
Rancor - Great
Jabba - Great
Gold Bikini - SUPERB
Emperor - Great
Vader Redemption - AMAZING
Yoda's death - Impactful / Enlightening
The 3 part final battle sequence - Fantastic
Sure the remastered version has that terrible Jabba Palace Musical extension... but thats hardly enough to make ROTJ objectively a "bad movie".
Bill Burr LOTR: 25 minutes, tops!
hey, thanks for the visual aid hahaha
It’s funny listening to this and the Bill was in Star Wars shortly following this. 😂
Christ, Joe's lack of knowledge or even common sense regarding film, never fails to startle me ; how can he think Jaws 3-D came out in the 60's or 70's?
I always fast forward when his talking about movies
It just sucked
“Hardcore four, or a gentlemen’s six” 😂😂😂😂😂
Jaws 3D was in 1983, wtf is Joe Rogan smoking!? 60's & 70's were the greatest decades for film lol
I wouldn't say the 1960s. The 1950s gave us a lot of great movies like 12 Angry Men, those Hitchcock movies like Rear Window and North by Northwest, one of my personal favorites in Singin' in the Rain. I think the cut-off point is anything before 1940.
Lord of the Rings was legit the best movies ever made, particular the Return of the King. Most awards ever.
Bill's character is the most believable thing about Star Wars since the 80's
Movies back then haven't become clunky, movies appeal more and more to the lowest common denominator. The Godfather could never be made nowadays, at least not for theaters. It would become straight to streaming like The Irishman.
They were talking about pre-70s movies
@@nekitamol1k242 There were a lot of great movies before the 70s!
yo wtf was that end track?? 🔥🔥🔥
amazing how Bill is one of the few guests that Joe will actually stfu for and listen to
Because Bill is a real comedian, and he's from the era where he'd roast Joe to death on his own podcast.
You obviously have not listened to the pod much. Joe let's people talk as much as they want
@@sergiomedina7960 Unless you're Rhonda Patrick in the last appearance.
@@rumble2468 he let her talk. She was disagreeing with him on a lot of the Covid stuff. They were going back and forth
@@sergiomedina7960 He kept trying to shut her down because obviously he knows more than her /S.
New Top Gun movie was AWESOME! I just didn’t understand why they didn’t just drop a MOAB on that target? 🤔
I'm getting older and I'm a ginger and feel the same way hahaha, I ain't quit drankin' tho #Cheers 😅😂🤣😅😂
I think the old Star Wars hold up very well. It's a simple fun story. George Lucas over complicated it then Disney fucked it up even more.
There is a federation of wookies… it’s called women in Portland.
Who went to Yale...
@@edfewchas3255 they allow woke wooks at Yale.
"If you want to give someone a dream, write a book; if you want to share with someone your dream, make a movie." - TEMjr
I agree that old movies typically suck, but the idea of movies when people had such little experience with T.V. or movies was to show them a world that doesn't exist to show them what might be. I always hated those old movies when the dialogue just breaks into a damn song for a long time with all the people around getting involved.
What Burr is hitting on is that you eventually get sick of stuff as time goes on and you expose yourself to broader tastes- or at least it should.
No.
nah
LOTR are arguably the best movies ever made. OG Star Wars still holds up incredibly well
Jaws3 was considered bad back then.
Bill, point out on the dolls where Chewie touched you.
Those movies at 6:15 are all outstanding.
I can't agree with most of this.
I think this podcast episode is from like back in 2012. I doubt even they would agree with most of what they spewed here.
In like 1980 they made a Star Wars Christmas wookie special right after the first Star Wars. Lucas didnt write it , he let them do it to take heat off making Empire Strikes back. It was so bad that it disappeared and you cant rent or buy it even today
Scarface def one in this category
Love the art style 😂
Bill Burr is so disrespectful with his contempt. It's one of the greatest thing to witness someone who was so much contempt for most of the world and expressing it through pure jokes and unfiltered anger!
Dude. A comedian was saying funny things. Don’t take everything so seriously
@@brickhouse2265 I'm commenting on how hilarious his contempt for everything is. You missed the point.
@@brickhouse2265oh the irony
If you're going to be wrong about Sci/Fi Fantasy, be *Incredibly* wrong about it.
Frodo needed Dumbledores help to destroy the Deathstar. It was a scene-by-scene remake of the original Startreck.
After being in Star Wars and seeing how cool it feels to be a character and on set, it's funny that he's changed his tune on understanding why people love SW so much.
It's called money..
@@bham7205 Well, he actually spoke on it, so....
@@bham7205 “After getting a job, he changed his public opinion about the company”
Legend has it that you can't draw Joe as a stickman lmao
Bill: I hate Star Wars
Bill: gets a check from lucasfilm
Bill: I love Star Wars
Hey the Chewbacca thing. There’s a lot of smoke but there’s some fire
Lost so much respect for Bill. Yes, there are movies that look 'cheesy' and are objectively 'bad'. But technology has also made filmmakers lazy. Star Wars and LOTR are still some of the greatest movies ever made. The Thing is probably the best horror movie ever made and has that stop motion animation/etc.
Lotr is a collection of movie making mastery, Star Wars....not that much, the original trilogy is of course worth a watch but pretty much everything made after them is dog shit as far as good quality movies go.
Feigning ignorance is a great way to have fun with somebody's passion lol plus it's a great way to pick up on when someone is doing it to you and you can laugh and respect the play
The movies of the 90s are still gold tho. Shawshank? PERFECTION! And my personal favorite, the Usual Suspects, God tier.
Hell even Michael Bay made a cool movie in the 90s (THE ROCK). His best movie other than PAIN and Gain (that movie is legit HILARIOUS and a good story)
Movies from last century will always hold up, because movies in last 15 years are mediocre to really bad.
@@worlddd7777 Christopher Nolan is the only one making good movies since the 90s
@@HugoStiglitz88 Thats just horseshit.
@@HugoStiglitz88 Your channel is literally named after a character from a 2009 Tarantino movie
I never cared for lord of the rings when it came out. Star Wars is still great today.
Joes from my generation... listening to him talk about Chewbacca, makes me suspicious that maybe, just maybe, he had a light saber in 1977.
Joe made me laugh talking about the Wookiee lol. It’s rare joe makes me lol