Why you NEED to tune your Audi (3.0TFSI)
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
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For those considering stage 2: do stage 1 first, and enjoy the gains from that for a while. Then do stage 2 (different pully on the supercharger), and while the number gain may not look like much, the added torque through the whole rev range makes it feel like a large gain again.
? Why? If you plan on doing a stage 2 some day, do a stage 2 now... don't upgrade twice
@@SkinnySkinch so you get the enjoyment of 2 upgrades, instead of only one.
@@jochemr.a.bakker8048 haha okay man to each their own. makes absolutely no sense to me. you want the stage two so make yourself suffer and only get the stage 1 first so that you can say you "got the enjoyment of 2 upgrades" even though you didnt get what you want.
@@SkinnySkinch experiencing stage 1 the first time is quite the improvement from base, nothing to sneeze at. But then when you get stage 2, you get to experience the torque gains throughout the rev range, also impressive.
If you do it all at once you only get one of those experiences.
But agreed, to each their own.
Have had my stage 1 93 octane tune for a few years now and zero regrets. Brought the car to life with ZERO issues. '13 A6 3.0. APR claims about 445 go. Can't recommend it enough.
Want to tune my car stage apr ! But I am afraid of facing issue.. would you really recommend it ?
@@MAS4X 100% recommend. I've had my car for a few years now tuned with APR and have not had a single issue. It brought the car to life and made it enjoyable to drive. And boosted car I get from here on will be straight to APR for a tune.
Where to get it
@@RogansRatedCar I am at 105k miles and have had the timing belt and supercharger belt changed about 20k miles ago. I have owned the car since about 20k miles and got it tunes at near 65k miles. It still to this day runs like new (well better then new with the tune.)
@@RogansRatedCar no problem buddy. I can't encourage the tune enough gh. It's silly to have this car and not tune it.
Nice video. Narrowing down my next car purchase and a 2021 S5 is on short list. These videos help with getting more bang for my buck later. Only issue with video, damn, that hair! LOL!
Early quarantine haircut issues man...😂😂taken care of now don’t worry. The visor didn’t help things
I have a 2019 RS5 coupe with literally every option ticked... I put a abt RS5-R stage 2 tune on and the dealer had no problem with it... they even wanted to buy it off me when I took it in to have a check engine light serviced 😂! This car is a beast and I’d highly recommend it to anyone looking for a daily driver almost super car!
Love it
Im going to look at a b8 s4 tomorrow and this video was really informative thank you! Also since you mentioned warantees and tuning, for audis and volkswagens apr tunes and parts dont void warranty since apr and volkswagen are partnered. Also was pretty convinient when I had my b6 a4 because i got it tuned at my local volkswagen dealer haha
Good to know! Best of luck with your search✊🏼
I wouldn't believe a word of that my dude. Audi and VW are NOTORIOUS for not supporting warranties for the tiniest of reasons.
Late to the party but a new subscriber!! Thanks for the information. And Fire up Chips
Thanks a lot! Fire up!
Great stuff!
Great content man great videos
Appreciate it!
I just got a 2015 A6 Prem Plus S-line. This is as beautiful as the nicest cars I have ever driven, and faster than it really should be. I can't wait to get it tuned. Stage 2 or bust
Awesome! Congrats
That 7200rpm redline sounds so good!
As long as everyone buy the right parts and tune the ecu you are good. Your car will be fine just don't skip around parts and tunes just to gain 700 hp. Remember heat and friction is the enemy to engines.
I got the APR Stage 1 93 octane tune on my B8 S4. Highly recommend.
Links to tune?
@@KG3three www.goapr.com/products/software/ecu_upgrade/parts/ECU-30T-EA837-SIM84
How do u think it will hold up with a 80k mile 6 speed manual transmission?
the 3.0 tfsi is insane... get a 272hp a4. 420hp just from a stage 1 tune. Thats 148 hp...
They start off with about 325 BHP
Does the a5 3.0l s sound the same as the s5 stock?
@@chadzilla85 different stock tunes for different models. Get your facts straight.
Does it still differentiate from sport mode and regular drive mode? I imagine getting on it doesn’t make a difference but still want to drive it like stock in regular drive mode and kick it up in sport.
What other mods do you have? Any exhaust? Sounds nastier than stock, in a good way 😊
I did the REVO stage 1 upgrade on my TFSI 3.0 and I am amazed by the power gains. I know the fuel is a little bit juicier in this country (UK) than in the USA but 438hp at the wheels I did not expect. I put RS 4 20" stock wheels on and shod them with Bridgestone's. 330mm diameter discs up front with 6 pots. Milltech exhaust and that's it. The car now has very few peers on the road. As it's a Cabriolet the handling at speed is a little bit of a handful but HEY who cares. As with KevG I didn't put it on the rolling road before the changes which I regret but I did a before and after test with the stock and the new exhaust. 5hp less was the result. Go figure. They tell me that a stage 2 may affect reliability so bollocks to that. Anywho @ nearly £7k for everything, it's not cheap. Would I do it again? maybe, it would depend if I had 7 spare.
I'm in the process looking for a tune for my 2014 S5. Thinking APR ECU and TCU. Fire up chips!!
Best of luck in your search! Fire up✊🏼
Good video
Thanks!
Thanks very much
Mine 13 S5 it’s slow 313 whp car weights 4000 pounds. These cars need a tune asap. I wish I would of gone turbo I should’ve got a new year
So I’m trying to tune my Audi 2012 A6 3.0T but seems like APR doesn’t have TCUs anymore. Idk what to do about that anymore
Is it possible swap b8 s4 3.0 tfsi into b7 models and will it work?
Super Cool. Can I expect the same result from my 2021 A6 V6 3.0L 55 TFSI? It's a turbo rather than supercharged and I assume a change of this nature will void the warranty. Any experience with something like this?
Search ECU tunes for your platform and take a look at performance gains! I’m not super familiar with the newer stuff but I’m sure there are tunes available
Whats your opinion on the IE tune? It’s kinda like a DIY tune that anyone can do at home. I’m actually considering to get that one, seems pretty legit tbh
I can’t say I have any personal experience with it... but from the videos I’ve watched and the research I’ve done, it looks like a pretty solid option considering the easy install
A lot of them have modules where you can flash it yourself. That way you can change it back without spending the $$ for the tune shop to do it. It doesn't take anything special, just have your car on a battery tender so you don't brick you ECU.
@KevG I know it's 1 year later. Is it possible to provide a "Beginners List" with what to purchase for Stage 1, etc, etc.
Hi friend, i am going to buy an stock s5 audi a5 from 2011, can you give me some tips for checking the car, before buying? Thanks!
It's so weird that people rarely used unitronic. It's the only thing i trust to not blow my motor no matter how hard I push it.
Beautiful spec! Where do you go for tuning I am looking to do something on my 2014 S5
I Went apr
@@thewanderer5124 what did you see for gains on stage 1? I'm looking between apr and IE
The earliest version of the 3.0 TFSI A6 C6 ecu simos is not as tunable as the one in the C7 A6 simos 8.5.
To bad I didn't know that when purchasing my 2009 A6 and instead getting the A6 C7. Dual pulley not available for my A6 C6 for example.🙄
Also the slow Tiptronic in my car is really noticable compared to your newer S5.
Good to know, thanks!
I got a Audi A6 2012 V6 Supercharged what time should I get
I have an Audi s6 what mods do I need on my car for a stage one tune? Also a stage two?
I believe that for a most turbo cars, stage 1 is just the tune, and stage 2 is at least the tune and a downpipe
I gotta 2012 A6 Quattro what you recommend?
I don't even see SQ5 or Q5 on Eurodyne and does APR have a TCU tune or just the ECU?
2013 s5 v6 supercharged. List below what i should upgrade from cheapest to most price range!
Also what do I need for a stage 1
yeah lemme hop right on that bud
@@Ky1ey what’s the list ?
I had the stage one on my A6 and it was amazing. Messed with the TCU and messed up the timing somehow.... Ended up getting rid of it☹️
Interesting.. sorry it got messed up! What was the tune?
@@KevG it was the apr stage 1 and I used VAGCOM to tweak the transmission. My car was still shifting at the stock redline so I adjusted some trans setting to take advantage of the 7200 rpm redline. I revved the engine in neutral and I swear the tach went to 7500. After that I got a 2 fault code for the timing. I think the chain jumped or stretched. I guess the whole motor needed to come out to fix the issue so I traded it in for a Challenger TA 392 a few years back. Really miss that A6. It was a 2012 prestige.
@@VenomTT so would you recommend not messing with the tcu?
@@ProudSunniMuslim due to my experience, I wouldn't. My car had 70k miles on it and that few extra rpms didn't work out too well.
@@VenomTT Why did you go through a professional tuning company for your ECU, but fuck with the TCU yourself? That sucks man. Should've looked into 034 or IE TCU tuning..
what do you think on unitronic? also you have to change the pulley if you go stage 2 right
Not too familiar with their products. And yes, it's recommended you upgrade a few parts, pulley included. Or go dual pulley. Heat exchanger as well.
Just got a 2018 audi a4 premium plus ultra. Should I tune it or do something else first. Not really knowledgeable about cars. Any advice would help.
The B9 A4 certainly has some potential for tuning. Just make sure it won’t void the warranty!
Yea I just got the same B9 A4 I’d wait until the warranty is up
Yea I gotta wait atleast 5 years. I bought an extended warranty so I got some time on it.. Might just fix up my '68 350 small block chevy in the mean time. Thanks guys.
what is your exhaust system
I have a 2014 S5. I want to get an APR stage 1 tune. How’s the reliability of the car since your tune...any issues?
No reliability differences at all!
I have had APR stage 2 for 5 years. Zero issues, runs like a dream.
I also have APR stage 1 on my 3.0 t ...0 issues.
I want to ask you something: if you change V-pulley it is necessary to do also the stage 1 software? It can affect somehow if you don't do it ?
Do you mean crank or supercharger pulley? Changing the alternator belt pulley doesn't change anything. And YES you don't even want to drive the car without a tune if you change the crank or super charger pulley. If you're going to do the install yourself, get the tune loaded, then add the pulley after not the other way around. If not, your car will run very rough and cause problems that will end up expensive. Source: Q5 3.0t owner going stage 2 with single pulley.
@@HagakureJunkie thank you so much for help and time
my car audi a7 tfsi gone crazy its doesnt give ke miles, any solution
Where did you purchase the eurodyne tune from?
My tuner who’s licensed in my home town!
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I own a 2018 S5 with about 355 bhp. A stage 1 tune unlocks about 50 bhp ish. Thats for £200.
Hello I leave in Flint, where did you go to get your tune done, I have a Audi A6 3.0
Shop here called Worldwide Auto Imports! There may be closer APR dealers near you. You can also get a handheld tune you can do yourself from 034 or IE
What about the fuel consumption I want it Audi S5 tuned but too worried about the fuel as it's drinking a lot already so not too sure.
my audi a7 2012 after ecu and gearbox tune had 440hp and 500nM, whic is stage 1 what is called. after replacing 2 front pulleys, better radiator car had 475hp. when going for more, which was replacing: compresor, main shaft, added radiator, much better water pump, downpipe, better fuel pump, sport air filter with inlet, colder sparks, and seperate cooling system from IC, the car is on 533hp, that costed apprx. 4600 in dolars. tune by profesionals just makes your car unlock full potentials of the engine, no harm is done. your car needs to be healthy first before doing a tune :)
Facts! Thanks for your comment. My tuner was very helpful in letting me know what needs to be done to the internals when you upgrade to stage 2. Part of the reason I'm still only at stage 1 is because I daily the car and don't need to dump thousands into it right now for a 30hp gain 👍🏼
You should make a vid on your car
What octane you running for those HP results
Was thinking either buying me a Dodge Charger Daytona or a 2012+ a6 3.0 and tuning it. Only problem is the 3.0s I can find all have over 100k miles. Dunno how long it’d last me lol
C7 A6's are badass cars. My buddy's stage 2 is faster than mine now. If you need some persuasion check out this video with it... Around the 2 minute mark! ruclips.net/video/-Kxsusd_BEo/видео.html
Get a s5 i leave all dodge and fords chevys in mines.
Same thing I went through but finally found me a 13 3.0 prestige
They'll last a hell of a lot longer then a mopar
know any tunes for an 06 a6 3.1?
Want to tune my A6 2018 v6 supercharged (stage 1) any recommendations this is my first time but don’t want it to mess up my warranty will it affect it in anyway?
Not sure if it would affect warranty... I'd do some more research. I know most dealer warranties are 3 year
Yes
It voids your warranty!
Just a heads up, if you plan on going Stage 2, don't waste your money on Stage 1, there's no carryover and you will just have to pay twice.
Lots of tuning companies will just make you pay a small amount for upgrading, plus parts
Is the s5 v-6 supercharged internals the same as the rs5 v-6 supercharged internals?
RS5 from this generation is N/A V8. RS5 from never generation is 2.9 twin turbo!
I want my 3.0 TFSI Q7 to last at least 10 years....will tuning it mess with reliability of the vehicle?
Well ecu tune won't do much unless you go stage 2 or stage 3 which u are basically gutting the engine out and putting high performance parts in it. Remember enjoy the car first for a while then slowly upgrade the car as you go.
APR are no longer popular as they havent developed anything on the platform for over 5 years, so go for 034 or IE for companies still working on the platform
Thanks for the advice!
034 few
APR hasn’t made any changes because the parent company they operate under has switched To DPB and the EPA is breathing down Their neck because they manufacture aftermarket exhaust products and Tunes
is there a reason you went with Eurodyne over apr? Thanks in advance
My tuner recommended it. Also, at the time they weren't APR dealers, but now are. I think right now I would recommend APR because their prices just dropped!
@@KevG the night before the first tune is always rough for me(I get too excited, I'm about to get my tune tomorrow ) from my research stage one is great for the high end of the power band. now I am already thinking to pull the plug(since the apr tunes are so cheap) to go stage 2 supercharger pulley(single pulley, i don't have the patience to have the crank and new radiator and high flow cats for that) since that will give me low-end power that i care for(yeah I'm a maniac at stop signs and lights). any input you might have for me since you have the stage one tune for some time?
Yo what’s up! Audi s5 2013! Awe track exhaust & ie cold air intake !
What time can I jump into the stage 2? If i do that do I need to upgrade everything?
Now I know stage 1 ecu & tcu is good but what do I need to know
For stage 2 I’d suggest a heat exchanger and upgraded pulleys. HPFP as well. I never ended up going with stage 2 because it’s pretty costly just to gain around 20hp. Best of luck!
@@KevG figured I had that same thought in my head when I was researching stage 2 and hearing that non major gain!
If you don’t mind since you experienced what time company would you recommend ? Apr ? Unitronics? IE?
Stage 1 it is for me
@@monclersupreme4962 I had the Eurodyne tune on this one and liked it a lot. I also had the car tuned nearly 5 years ago. If I’d do it again today, I’d probably go with APR if you want to get it done at a dealer, or IE if you want to do it yourself
What grill did you install?
Looks like an RS grill. I have the same on my 2014 S5 cabriolet.
Hey man i have 2008 audi s6 what you recommended?
Not sure exactly what tuning is possible, but that's the V10, correct? Beautiful car!
What happened to the fuel mileage?
Eurodyne reports the tune should increase fuel milage, but I haven't seen a noticeable improvement
I have a 2010 Audi a 6 super charger where can I get mines done??
Any place that's partnered with the tuner/ company. APR has a map of its places
Loving your S5. Any issues with cooling?
Thank you! And no, no issues
If you only add the tune and no mods to cooling, you’ll suffer heat soak after you do a couple of launches in a row. No permanent effects though.
What’s the 60-120 time ? 👀
Good question 🤔I’ve never timed it myself
@@KevG Get on it! :D
getting a 2015 S5 tommorrowwww, im tihnking of stage 1 tune it idk im scareed
Stage 1 is a perfect start. You won’t regret it. Drive the car stock for a bit and you’ll notice the upgrade for sure
I want to go with stage 2 and dual pulley e40. But I don’t want to see if messing my car up
Buddy of mine just got the dual pulley done on his A6 3.0T. Very good performance, just need a few extra hardware goodies to make it work
@@KevG what tuner is he going with? IE or 034
So if i do a stage 1 what can stay stock?
Everything, I’d do an intake though. Makes fun noises
Are the a5 3.0l s same as the s5 3.0l abut just detuned??
The 3.0 tfsi doesn't come with the A5
timing chain will thank us
Can you update on the affect it has on wear and tear of the engine, I recently bought a b8.5 s5 and been meaning to tune it but didn't want to cause any reliability issues on the long run.
Oil consumption, uses more gas, harder on components. More regular engine service, and keeping an eye on Temps and fluid levels.
If your not drag racing it everyday your car will be fine. I installed a stage two with both upper and lower pulleys in my 2014 audi a7 3.0 4 years ago and it runs like new and I get on it often. Haven't noticed any difference with maintenance.
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do you think stage 2 is worth it?
For me it's not right now. The power gains will be about 20hp/15tq, so I'm not in a hurry to upgrade.
Stage 2 is different than Stage 2 dual pulley. Stage 1 is software only. Stage 2 is single or dual pulley with software. If you run Stage 1 or Stage 2 Single pulley the horsepower gains are higher up top. This means the car pulls harder the faster you rev but... the stock TCU that controls the transmission wants to shift early because it doesn't know the ECU was modified.
It is essential to have a TCU tune, which is another cost, to get up to that RPM where there is horsepower still, otherwise you are missing out.
Stage 2 Dual Pulley is a different animal, focus on the word animal. Stage 2 dual pulley turns the 3.0 into a torque monster. It moves the torque and horsepower down lower. Blip the throttle at low RPMs and expect to be slammed into the seat and the traction control to light up. The horsepower is still up top and you can benefit from a TCU tune, but there is so much down low and on average I don't see how a Stage one with a TCU tune is going to keep up.
Then your heat exchanger should be upgraded. To be fair to all the ECU tuners the stock tune could use a heat exchanger upgrade anyway. If you don't, you are limited to about 1 time through the gears at full throttle before the car pulls timing and bleeds boost to save the engine. So if you do a spirited run, you'll need a highway cooldown session. If it a filthy hot day, there is no joy to be had until the evening.
I'm Stage 2 dual pulley 93 octane with no heat exchanger upgrade but the temperature here is going to be freezing or near freezing for the next 2 months and then I'm going to get the heat exchanger. It won't help now and even though there isn't really snow on the road the car tries to drift corners and lights up the traction control from spinning it's tires.
Heat exchanger next. Then TCU tune. Then maybe Stage 2+...
@@Todd.T how much horsepower do you have after the stage 2?
@@antoinemarous7308 Around 460 HP and 426 TQ. Since I typed the above, I have added the new heat exchanger, added the TCU tune so that I can get maximum power, and I also added performance ignition coils. In the world of street light to street light, the Stage 2 dual pulley dominates. A lot of folks may be tempted to look at the 477 hp rating on the Stage 2 single pulley and assume that will be faster, but if that were true the Stage 2 dual pulley wouldn't be an option.
Another factor is which engine would one be running. If you run a 2011 to 2015 A6 or any S4 you would have a CREA engine with 6 injectors and a SIMOS 8 computer. I run a 2016 with a CREC with 12 injectors, a clutch on the supercharger and a SIMOS 16 computer. The SIMOS 16 has less memory and is difficult to flash at home. The SIMOS 16 doesn't usually have support for E85 fuel either.
On a SIMOS 8 computer you can get a Stage 2 Single pulley file that runs E85 from a tuner and the car is good for high 11s in the quarter. A lot of people crap on the CREC SIMOS 16 tunes from APR because they cost more and are not flashable from home.
The fact is, whether by magic or luck, it looks like the few people with the APR dual pulley 93 octane file on a CREC SIMOS 16 are not an easy target.
My next move is a new intake system. And then the track. I will have a bit more potential than this guy, but I would be happy to be within 2 tenths of him on the slow side:
ruclips.net/video/FEz5A2pUyio/видео.html&ab_channel=academytim
I wish I had an s Audi 😔
What u have?
@@MarylandMarshmallow a4 but I got an s5 not to long ago
What’s the difference it’s the same engine is it worth getting the s ?
@@Ximenasx s cars are the sport versions of the normal cars so better car overall it’s way worth it
@@thenotoriousjoey9956 cool just coming from an f sport so it’ would be lame for me to get an Audi without he S . I’m definitely getting an s3 was thinking a6 since it had a 3.0t but i like the s3 look and the badges
How did your mpg get affected ?
Haven’t seen a huge increase or anything really noticeable at all actually
Mine went up but...I have a CREC 3.0 which uses a clutch on the supercharger and it also has 12 injectors. In most cases, it goes up but then you waste more fuel by flooring the happy pedal.
Exhaust setup?
AWE Touring now! At the time this was filmed I had a custom resonator delete/ x pipe
SQ5 is turbocharged now as of 2017. Q5 3.0 is still supercharged. And anyone who is tuning a leased car is a straight brokeboi. Own yo shit
Would you get similar gains on the s5 4.2L? I heard those engines are harder to mod?
Muhammadsaad Kazi definitely would not get similar gains. The V8 probably has some potential for ecu tunes but not close to the gains in the 3.0T
KevG I’m having a hard time whether I want to pick up a 3.0T or the V8. Both are good cars I don’t know which one I should get tho?
Muhammadsaad Kazi based on my experience, I’d suggest the 3.0T. Lower maintenance in most cases, more potential for power, better looking front end, etc. best of luck with your search✊🏼
NA engines are more fun, more reliable just better in general only thing you can't do with them is 'tune' you need turbo/super charging for that, as the tune is only messing with the fuel maps and pressures. With naturaly aspirated engine you cant mess with the maps too much, you will be maybe able to get few ponies out of your car but for which price.
It will simply not work out, check brand name tuners if they are offering a chip tune for your NA engine, usually they will not.
The best thing you can do with the NA engine intake / exhaust tune, it may improve the throttle response and sound, with your V8 maybe few ponies, but nothing significant. If you have a DSG get a tune for it, it will shift faster and rev higher, also DSG clutch setup will do quite a lot if you have a higher mileage car.
If you have big budget you can put turbos on your V8, that will add a lot, but you will lose what are usually people buying this cars for. Lot of people here in EU is not buying the new TFSI S5 but rather the old V8 FSI and after they do facelift so they have the newer great looking car with the V8, with proper exhaust and intake you have a muscle car :) especially in that coupe body it looks great and its really a EU muscle :)
@@Aluzcz good advice!
what bout integrated engineering?
Also a great company
Apr stage 1 gives me 401 hp. Whats the matter. Cat clogged?
Wheel?
@@KevG 291 @ wheels
@@KevG or you mean wheel setup? 19r / 255 width tires.
@@oujee1988 wheel horsepower? With stage 1
@@KevG ok, wheel hp was 291.
Unitronic or apr?
Eurodyne tune✊🏼
034 motorsport.
@@J3n555 Hey I am seriously looking at 034 or IE. What made you select 034? Thanks in Advance. Look forward to your response!
You forgot the a6 and sq5
Yes, the other 3.0t sleepers😁if I didn’t mention it in this video those will come soon
@@KevG ya the sq5 still has a high resell valve but the a6 is the best one to buy Cus they are cheaper then some of the a4
A7 and some Q5 too
@@jochemr.a.bakker8048 yes!
You can easily tune your own at home. They make it easy now
How?
@@BrokeMahWallet check 034 motor sports, integrated engineering, ECS tuning, eurotuning, those should get you started. Those tunes will give allow you to purchase a cable to plug into your laptop and download your tunes
@@zerofuckkksgiven8027 Awesome! Thanks so much 😁
Sure if it’s tuned and you need to bring it to Audi, say goodbye to your warranty.
Whats the speed limit in ur country?
It varies state to state but 70-75mph on highways
@@KevG soo..why u need 400hp car than
@@anubisanubis9859 sometimes we go 80
Lol
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sub 4 means less than 4 seconds?
Correct
Don't tuned with the IPHONE more than likely you would blow up your house and car!!
bro wtf is your hair doing??
Lmaooooo this was still covid time and my barber was shut down 😂
0-62 is needed. Not 0-60......
0-60 is pretty standard in America. I’d guess maybe add a tenth of a second?
@@KevG So bang on 4 secs then?
@@sinoperture just about! 4-4.2 consistently I’d say