The commentaries of Fr Hesse and this channel have helped me to make a big change in my life as of a week ago. I entered onto an SSPX property for the first time one week ago today and went to confession. How great that they offer Confessions on a weekday evening. This was done in preparation to attend Mass, which I attended this past Sunday. They also had a catechism class which I attended last night. It has been a busy week. This afternoon I turned in a census card. Thank you for all you do to advance the faith. I am confident that I am in the right place, and you helped to get me here.
What a blessing!! 💞 I love that Fr Hesse helped you (he needs to be known more!); he has helped us very much in our journey, too. You are in my humble prayers - may God bless you, the Blessed Lady guide you, and the dear Archbishop intercede for you 🌹
The SSPX sure got me through the Covid ordeal without losing it. Everyone at the church acted normal! We always had the sacraments! And I am in Michigan, not the reddest of states.
Kennedy: I am really enjoying reading this book!! You present the case of the SSPX in a balanced, fair, manner. Thanks so much for providing this service to the Church!!
I am getting as part of my Mother's Day present your SSPX The Defence awesome book, which I suspect will be almost impossible to put down 🤓👏🤗 Thank you so much for everything you do as a faithful soldier of Our Lord Jesus Christ...God bless you Kennedy 🙏✝️🛐🌹🙏‼️
I agree with you, I stopped watching his program a long time ago. He is very judgemental and critical, particularly when there is a homosexual element.
Kennedy you rock! Please let me know if you will be on a book tour in the USA I would definitely love to help you with that. We need people to understand the position on the SSPX and I think the chapels would enjoy your new book too! In Jesu et Maria ! 💕
I recommend ‘They have uncrowned Him’ by AB Marcel Lefebvre, a saintly man with pure intentions, it is a prolific illustration of the modern Church that echoes even louder in this day. My Lord and My God. Read it!
Great work as always Kennedy! It is very sad to see so many "catholics youtubers" pushing false information on their followers. Thank you for your amazing work!!
Thank you for these very intelligent and helpful arguments. You do a great job of answering all of my questions. I'm still hearing from the ranks of local fellow trads that it's simply because of the canonically irregular situation that makes it sinful to attend their sacraments. Could you speak to that?
The SSPX schism issue is so tiresome within the wider context of the Church where the pope is letting Coptics say divine liturgies at the vatican and canonizing open schismatics
Mr. Hall, huge fan of your work, thank you. Is there somewhere I can read the take by the Kiwi Canonical Lawyer? I sometimes have difficulty listening and completely comprehending the first time around, and need to read things to really grasp them. I would really appreciate knowing if this can be read somewhere, thank you. I sincerely believe if I cannot casually explain it, then I do truly comprehend it, thank you.
Basically modernists being modernists and confused. The Church isn't infallible in matters of discipline, which includes excommunication. Think back to Joan of Arc, she was excommunicated, which was a mistake and invalid. The 4 consecrated Bishops can be declared no longer excomunicated even if they weren't, because Rome after the council hates to actually use their authority openly, so they treat as if the declaration of the 4 Bishops of excommunicating themselves actually meant they were excommunicated, hence needing to have that excommunication be lifted. Confusing, I know, but that's what happens when those with authority, for example post VII Popes, refuse to actually use their authority because modern man really hates authority, and we need to dialogue with modern man, don't you know?
Abp. Lefebvre's case is one more example of the smear campaign program that's been going on from within the church for over 70 years at this point. It goes like this: *Have some figure in the church hierarchy with some title or office send a letter to a cleric being targeted for his orthodox practice (e.g., TLM), orthodox teaching (e.g., extra ecclesiam nulla salus), or simply telling too many facts about what radicals in the church are up to (e.g., radicals are championing Planned Murderhood style sex ed in Catholic schools). The more ambiguous, vague, inaccurate, and outright unjust the charges and penalties, the better. *In the letter, suspend the priest from ministry or give the implication that he is, or transfer him, or send him on sabbatical, demote him from pastor, etc. The letter may perhaps even cite the priest as being in violation of a code of canon law, but one that is not applicable to his case. (Even better if the priest's actions are not a violation even under the correct number of the Code). *Give the target priest no opportunity to defend himself in ecclesial tribunal or other forum. But if allowed a hearing, give him a "kangaroo court" show trial. *Give cohorts in the media attention-grabbing headlines while likewise giving the target priest no chance to comment. Or else distort the meaning of his comments. * Don't forget to exploit the local rumor mill in the parish or diocese, and now with the internet, (anti) social media. *Then excommunicate or dismiss from ministry said priest for disobedience, especially if he has objected to the injustice of the process. However, allow the perception to linger that his dismissal was due to the "illicit" orthodoxy he practiced, because the church "no longer teaches that" and he's just a "reactionary". Perception is reality. If this sounds like the Soviet Union or East Germany, you're starting to get it. This is what was done not only to Abp. Lefebvre, but also to Fr. Gruner, Fr. Feeney, Fr. Normandin, and countless other priests whose names aren't familiar today even with the internet. In Lefebvre's case, they allowed the perception that the entire order of priests and faithful of his SSPX order were excommunicated, never publicized BXVI's lifting of the illicit excommunication, and keep the status of the order murky by pals in the Catholic media bashing them continually and members of the hierarchy making inaccurate statements about them
This issue has a ponderously stiff-necked component to it…people just don’t want to see it no matter how well explained. Today a listener to a Catholic show claimed you say we don’t have to go to Church if we don’t want to (host didn’t believe it…nor did I…) & still stands that SSPX is schismatic. What weird times we are in…people can’t be reasoned with…
Could they ever? Remember from the Baltimore Catechism No. 2 that one of the gifts from God which our parents, Adam and Eve, lost by committing the Original Sin was "control of the emotions by reason."
Waitaminute! Does the Church hierarchy have the power of binding and loosing or not? A priest does not have to "prove" that a penitent is or is not sufficiently contrite to obtain forgiveness of sins, does he not? A pope can excommunicate without proof.
For once I think my jealousy will not be judged by the Father in heaven because, there is no SSPX presence in my country except for five pockets, that too in a country with the 2nd highest population, soon to be the 1st. All of you don't know how blessed you are, please pray for us to have this correted soon, we just have the Novus Ordo. YOU DONT KNOW HOW AWFUL THAT IS. No Adoration, no Divine Praises, no retreats, Baptism without the exorcism right, no Confirmation for adults. But tbe worst of all is that at confession, most of the sins you confess are considered not sins at all. Please appreciate the great blessings you have and fight Pope Francis tooth and nail. I have no doubt that Archbishop Lefevre is in heaven. Please send your beloved sons to us soon dear Archbishop, dont love us orphaned.
Pope Francis never "recognized" that the SSPX has faculties. He actually gave them limited faculties for the good of the poor souls who follow the SSPX not knowing any better. SSPX priests have no faculties to celebrate Mass outside of the limited circumstance of a nuptial Mass after they have received explicit permission from the Diocesan Bishop. Other than that, every Mass they celebrate is illicit.
A rose by any other name... A mercy, or "actual faculties", it matters not, they are catholic priests at the moment they exercise the faculties. No one has a satisfactory understanding of the term "illicit" here. The other month, there was a priest who "remixed" the sacred blood at a church in France like he was at a rave... (and they are in "full communion"). But you spend your time on comboxes talking about how "illicit" the SSPX masses are? Please... You and the Salza/Lofton types have a serious credibility problem. Btw, most people who attend the SSPX chapels have researched this issue extensively. It is you who is duped into believe modernist heresy is orthodox traditionalism
@@aloyalcatholic5785 Well, you should get an understanding of the word illicit because it isn't an innocuous word. It is appropriating for yourself what is not yours to take. In other words stealing. SSPX priests have no faculties to say Mass outside of those given by the ordinary Bishop for nuptial Masses. They exercise no ministry in the Catholic Church.
@@markrome9702 Obviously then there are degrees of "Illicit" considering full communion priests having raves with the Holy Eucharist, and they are consecrating on floaty rafts in the Adriatic... all while in "full communion" and I've yet to see a decree of the laicity of this. Or do you invoke a principle to say they aren't? At this point, we are in absurdity. You simply have an axe to grind against traditionalists and the SSPX in particular. It's lame at best and sinful at worst. Regardless of the actual status of their ministry, SSPX priests are exercising a far better priesthood than most catholic priests that I've seen. This autistic and sinical viewpoint with regard to the SSPX is tiresome. The pope just canonized ACTUAL schismatics. So there is no leg for you to stand on. With regard to your "stealing" accusation, the SSPX is "stealing" (if it is even legally the case that they are) for a reason: because those "in possession" of said item, namely the Canonical "mission", are abusing it. This is out necessity, like stealing to feed your family. Someone has to preserve tradition.
@@aloyalcatholic5785 I have no ax to grind with the SSPX. I want them to reject their unorthodox doctrines and come back to full communion with the Church. Don't you want to be in full communion with the Church?
Mr Hall - quick question. If the SSPX is not in schism, why does Cardinal Burke keep saying that they are? Cardinal Burke loves the 1962 missal and for six years served as prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura - the highest judicial authority in The Catholic Church. Essentially, he was the equivalent of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. So of all people on the planet, he should understand the complexities of this topic. But he keeps re-iterating, in public, very clearly, that the SSPX is in schism. What is your explanation for that?
This is a very good question and asked in good faith of one who wants to understand and I for one would like for someone in the know to give an intelligent answer to this question, now it is true that Cardinal Burke has not made any declaration on the status of SSPX in an official act of the Signatura but in his opinion based on his knowledge of canon law so therefore why does the Cardinal persist in this opinion even after this present pope granted them faculties when faculties can not be granted to someone who is outside of the Catholic Church. All I ask is one who has more knowledge than I do to give a concise answer to the original question. Thank you ( Mr Hall makes a good argument in his points)
Because Cardinal Burke is a man like all of us. He makes mistakes, like all of us. If Cardinal Burke said that Africa doesn’t exist it doesn’t change reality. However, I get your point he is a knowledgeable man and his opinion shouldn’t be discarded so easily. However even men in his area of expertise aren’t infalliable. Just recently it was determined that Roe v Wade wasn’t constitutionally valid and was overturned, despite it being approved by the supreme court. I also wouldn’t be surprised Cardinal Burke hasn’t looked enough into the issue. All Kennedy is doing is presenting the evidence and until such time that Cardinal Burke or anyone for that matter refutes the evidence the SSPX will not be considered schismatic by many of the faithful.
The SAINT and Pope John Paul the II could not be more clear in his letter. Some rando kiwi lawyer can’t get around this c) In the present circumstances I wish especially to make an appeal both solemn and heartfelt, paternal and fraternal, to all those who until now have been linked in various ways to the movement of Archbishop Lefebvre, that they may fulfil the grave duty of remaining united to the Vicar of Christ in the unity of the Catholic Church, and of ceasing their support in any way for that movement. Everyone should be aware that formal adherence to the schism is a grave offence against God and carries the penalty of excommunication decreed by the Church's law.(8) It is insane to deny that the SSPX WAS DECLARED IN SCHISM. Plus SSPX DECLARED THEMSELVES IN SCHISM. And that they were proud of it. Letter they all signed on July 6, 1988
For once I think my jealousy will not be judged by the Father in heaven because, there is no SSPX presence in my country ex ept for five pockets, that too in a country with the 2nd highest population, soon to be the 1st. All of you don't know how blessed you are, please pray for us to have this correted soon, we just have the Novus Ordo. YOU DONT KNOW HOW AWFUL THAT IS. No Adoration, no Divine Praises, no retreats, Baptism without the exorcism right, no Confirmation for adults. But tbe worst of all is at confession, most of the sins you confess are insider's not sins at all. Please appreciate the great blessings you have a fight Pope Francis tooth and nail. I have no doubt that Archbishop Lefevre is in heaven. Please send your beloved sons to us soon dear Archbishop, dont love us orphaned.
@@digitaljman5744 no doubt his book is fantastic. I love Kennedy and his shows when the topics are fresh and bring new perspective. I’m just merely mentioning that at this point it’s a bit of preaching to the choir and I’m a little 😴. I feel like he’s telling us the grass is green and water is wet.
If they were not excommunicated, then why was it lifted for the priests. Your takes can't be trusted. Your whole channel hinges on the sspx being justified.
The Saint and pope 100% excommunicated them. How much more clear can it have been written: 3. In itself, this act was one of disobedience to the Roman Pontiff in a very grave matter and of supreme importance for the unity of the church, such as is the ordination of bishops whereby the apostolic succession is sacramentally perpetuated. Hence such disobedience - which implies in practice the rejection of the Roman primacy - constitutes a schismatic act.(3) In performing such an act, notwithstanding the formal canonical warning sent to them by the Cardinal Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops on 17 June last, Mons. Lefebvre and the priests Bernard Fellay, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and Alfonso de Galarreta, have incurred the grave penalty of excommunication envisaged by ecclesiastical law.(4)
You need to address directly that a Saint declared the bishops excommunicated and SSPX in schism. You made a comment that we can’t just assume. This is a distortion of facts. The SSPX declared themselves in schism and the Pope and saint and many other high level Cardinals and Bishops.
About your statements about Bishop Guérard des Lauriers, it happens to be that you are WRONG sir, Bishop Lefebvre DID say the New Mass up to Christmas Midnight Mass 1972 when upon request of the then Seminarian Tissier de Mallerais, today Bishop, (done during breakfast on the 24 in a table of at least 6 persons hearing it), Bp. Lefebvre went back to the Traditional Latin Mass. YOU are too young to know first hand this kind of details and YOU SHOULD NOT speak about what you do not know.
Keep in mind that Latin Mass attendance is less than .1% of all mass attendees. Your logical arguments are very flawed. Francis has made clear why he is canceling the traditional mass. It is not an insane position. We may not agree with him but it is not an insane position.
Are you so sure? Please go back and look at Articles 4 and 5. The use “should” instead of “shall” implies a request or the giving of advise not an order. That’s why where I live we have both the NO and a Diocesan Latin Mass.
The commentaries of Fr Hesse and this channel have helped me to make a big change in my life as of a week ago. I entered onto an SSPX property for the first time one week ago today and went to confession. How great that they offer Confessions on a weekday evening. This was done in preparation to attend Mass, which I attended this past Sunday. They also had a catechism class which I attended last night. It has been a busy week. This afternoon I turned in a census card. Thank you for all you do to advance the faith. I am confident that I am in the right place, and you helped to get me here.
What a blessing!! 💞 I love that Fr Hesse helped you (he needs to be known more!); he has helped us very much in our journey, too. You are in my humble prayers - may God bless you, the Blessed Lady guide you, and the dear Archbishop intercede for you 🌹
The SSPX sure got me through the Covid ordeal without losing it. Everyone at the church acted normal! We always had the sacraments! And I am in Michigan, not the reddest of states.
I also recommend Kennedy’s book as well -SSPX: The Defense 💥
I am midway through it. It is terrific!! All Catholics who care about the Church must read this book!!
Kennedy:
I am really enjoying reading this book!! You present the case of the SSPX in a balanced, fair, manner. Thanks so much for providing this service to the Church!!
The man just wrote a fantastic book on the topic, also people are creatures of habit and should be reminded of Kennedy’s brand and this message.
Mr Hall, thank you for all you do we are most grateful.
I would so love to get your book on audio.
You are in our prayers.
Thank you Kennedy. This clarity is much needed.
I have only attended FSSP TLM's, but there would be no FSSP without the SSPX.
I am getting as part of my Mother's Day present your SSPX The Defence awesome book, which I suspect will be almost impossible to put down 🤓👏🤗 Thank you so much for everything you do as a faithful soldier of Our Lord Jesus Christ...God bless you Kennedy 🙏✝️🛐🌹🙏‼️
I just wish Voris would get off his high horse and stop bashing the SSPX
I agree with you, I stopped watching his program a long time ago. He is very judgemental and critical, particularly when there is a homosexual element.
@@joan5856 weird, that. It's almost as if he's compensating for something.
Lofton as well. He’s become insufferable
Voris has issues, but he is doing generally a good job defending the faith. Pot shots at him are often not done in charity
@@Crusader33ad he's controlled opposition.
Glad you’re putting out these SSPX videos because these SSPX haters are not loosening up.
pride
I am so fed up with people who call themselves Christians who hate other Christians!
Thank you for sharing this! I have to educate a parishioner on this.
Kennedy you rock! Please let me know if you will be on a book tour in the USA I would definitely love to help you with that. We need people to understand the position on the SSPX and I think the chapels would enjoy your new book too! In Jesu et Maria ! 💕
I recommend ‘They have uncrowned Him’ by AB Marcel Lefebvre, a saintly man with pure intentions, it is a prolific illustration of the modern Church that echoes even louder in this day. My Lord and My God. Read it!
Also, AN OPEN LETTER TO CONFUSED CATHOLICS, is essential reading as well.
Open Letter is excellent.
Great work as always Kennedy! It is very sad to see so many "catholics youtubers" pushing false information on their followers. Thank you for your amazing work!!
Thank you for these very intelligent and helpful arguments. You do a great job of answering all of my questions. I'm still hearing from the ranks of local fellow trads that it's simply because of the canonically irregular situation that makes it sinful to attend their sacraments. Could you speak to that?
The SSPX schism issue is so tiresome within the wider context of the Church where the pope is letting Coptics say divine liturgies at the vatican and canonizing open schismatics
Actually worse..Arian Heretics....
Mr. Hall, huge fan of your work, thank you. Is there somewhere I can read the take by the Kiwi Canonical Lawyer? I sometimes have difficulty listening and completely comprehending the first time around, and need to read things to really grasp them. I would really appreciate knowing if this can be read somewhere, thank you.
I sincerely believe if I cannot casually explain it, then I do truly comprehend it, thank you.
Greetings from Brazil, Kennedy! I'd like to buy your book but I can't do it from Brazil!
Amen thank you and God bless
Honest question: If Lefebvre and his bishops were never excommunicated then what was lifted in 2009?
Basically modernists being modernists and confused. The Church isn't infallible in matters of discipline, which includes excommunication. Think back to Joan of Arc, she was excommunicated, which was a mistake and invalid. The 4 consecrated Bishops can be declared no longer excomunicated even if they weren't, because Rome after the council hates to actually use their authority openly, so they treat as if the declaration of the 4 Bishops of excommunicating themselves actually meant they were excommunicated, hence needing to have that excommunication be lifted.
Confusing, I know, but that's what happens when those with authority, for example post VII Popes, refuse to actually use their authority because modern man really hates authority, and we need to dialogue with modern man, don't you know?
That would be more of a symbol than anything.
Abp. Lefebvre's case is one more example of the smear campaign program that's been going on from within the church for over 70 years at this point. It goes like this:
*Have some figure in the church hierarchy with some title or office send a letter to a cleric being targeted for his orthodox practice (e.g., TLM), orthodox teaching (e.g., extra ecclesiam nulla salus), or simply telling too many facts about what radicals in the church are up to (e.g., radicals are championing Planned Murderhood style sex ed in Catholic schools). The more ambiguous, vague, inaccurate, and outright unjust the charges and penalties, the better.
*In the letter, suspend the priest from ministry or give the implication that he is, or transfer him, or send him on sabbatical, demote him from pastor, etc. The letter may perhaps even cite the priest as being in violation of a code of canon law, but one that is not applicable to his case. (Even better if the priest's actions are not a violation even under the correct number of the Code).
*Give the target priest no opportunity to defend himself in ecclesial tribunal or other forum. But if allowed a hearing, give him a "kangaroo court" show trial.
*Give cohorts in the media attention-grabbing headlines while likewise giving the target priest no chance to comment. Or else distort the meaning of his comments.
* Don't forget to exploit the local rumor mill in the parish or diocese, and now with the internet, (anti) social media.
*Then excommunicate or dismiss from ministry said priest for disobedience, especially if he has objected to the injustice of the process. However, allow the perception to linger that his dismissal was due to the "illicit" orthodoxy he practiced, because the church "no longer teaches that" and he's just a "reactionary". Perception is reality.
If this sounds like the Soviet Union or East Germany, you're starting to get it.
This is what was done not only to Abp. Lefebvre, but also to Fr. Gruner, Fr. Feeney, Fr. Normandin, and countless other priests whose names aren't familiar today even with the internet.
In Lefebvre's case, they allowed the perception that the entire order of priests and faithful of his SSPX order were excommunicated, never publicized BXVI's lifting of the illicit excommunication, and keep the status of the order murky by pals in the Catholic media bashing them continually and members of the hierarchy making inaccurate statements about them
This issue has a ponderously stiff-necked component to it…people just don’t want to see it no matter how well explained. Today a listener to a Catholic show claimed you say we don’t have to go to Church if we don’t want to (host didn’t believe it…nor did I…) & still stands that SSPX is schismatic. What weird times we are in…people can’t be reasoned with…
Could they ever? Remember from the Baltimore Catechism No. 2 that one of the gifts from God which our parents, Adam and Eve, lost by committing the Original Sin was "control of the emotions by reason."
Kennedy Hall, of knowledge and light, where students seek truth and light. To learn, to grow, to think, to be, A shining beacon, for all to see.
Excellent !
This is sad, even though you do not intend to you may be leading people to hell, I can’t watch this without just being depressed
Why didn’t JP2 help out the SSPX.
Waitaminute! Does the Church hierarchy have the power of binding and loosing or not? A priest does not have to "prove" that a penitent is or is not sufficiently contrite to obtain forgiveness of sins, does he not? A pope can excommunicate without proof.
For once I think my jealousy will not be judged by the Father in heaven because, there is no SSPX presence in my country except for five pockets, that too in a country with the 2nd highest population, soon to be the 1st. All of you don't know how blessed you are, please pray for us to have this correted soon, we just have the Novus Ordo. YOU DONT KNOW HOW AWFUL THAT IS. No Adoration, no Divine Praises, no retreats, Baptism without the exorcism right, no Confirmation for adults. But tbe worst of all is that at confession, most of the sins you confess are considered not sins at all. Please appreciate the great blessings you have and fight Pope Francis tooth and nail. I have no doubt that Archbishop Lefevre is in heaven. Please send your beloved sons to us soon dear Archbishop, dont love us orphaned.
Thanks to God for Mons Lefebvre
So, did the Archbishop disobey the pope
You see that Defeat Modernism was taken down?
Defeat Modernism 2 is the backup channel, at least for now.
@@lorichet yeah
I saw his vid that came out last night. All his vids are gone though. He's listed as hate speech
Pope Francis never "recognized" that the SSPX has faculties. He actually gave them limited faculties for the good of the poor souls who follow the SSPX not knowing any better. SSPX priests have no faculties to celebrate Mass outside of the limited circumstance of a nuptial Mass after they have received explicit permission from the Diocesan Bishop. Other than that, every Mass they celebrate is illicit.
(Citation needed)
A rose by any other name... A mercy, or "actual faculties", it matters not, they are catholic priests at the moment they exercise the faculties. No one has a satisfactory understanding of the term "illicit" here. The other month, there was a priest who "remixed" the sacred blood at a church in France like he was at a rave... (and they are in "full communion"). But you spend your time on comboxes talking about how "illicit" the SSPX masses are? Please... You and the Salza/Lofton types have a serious credibility problem. Btw, most people who attend the SSPX chapels have researched this issue extensively. It is you who is duped into believe modernist heresy is orthodox traditionalism
@@aloyalcatholic5785 Well, you should get an understanding of the word illicit because it isn't an innocuous word. It is appropriating for yourself what is not yours to take. In other words stealing. SSPX priests have no faculties to say Mass outside of those given by the ordinary Bishop for nuptial Masses. They exercise no ministry in the Catholic Church.
@@markrome9702 Obviously then there are degrees of "Illicit" considering full communion priests having raves with the Holy Eucharist, and they are consecrating on floaty rafts in the Adriatic... all while in "full communion" and I've yet to see a decree of the laicity of this. Or do you invoke a principle to say they aren't? At this point, we are in absurdity. You simply have an axe to grind against traditionalists and the SSPX in particular. It's lame at best and sinful at worst. Regardless of the actual status of their ministry, SSPX priests are exercising a far better priesthood than most catholic priests that I've seen. This autistic and sinical viewpoint with regard to the SSPX is tiresome. The pope just canonized ACTUAL schismatics. So there is no leg for you to stand on. With regard to your "stealing" accusation, the SSPX is "stealing" (if it is even legally the case that they are) for a reason: because those "in possession" of said item, namely the Canonical "mission", are abusing it. This is out necessity, like stealing to feed your family. Someone has to preserve tradition.
@@aloyalcatholic5785 I have no ax to grind with the SSPX. I want them to reject their unorthodox doctrines and come back to full communion with the Church. Don't you want to be in full communion with the Church?
Mr Hall - quick question.
If the SSPX is not in schism, why does Cardinal Burke keep saying that they are? Cardinal Burke loves the 1962 missal and for six years served as prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura - the highest judicial authority in The Catholic Church. Essentially, he was the equivalent of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. So of all people on the planet, he should understand the complexities of this topic.
But he keeps re-iterating, in public, very clearly, that the SSPX is in schism.
What is your explanation for that?
You mean Cardinal Communion-in-hand?
This is a very good question and asked in good faith of one who wants to understand and I for one would like for someone in the know to give an intelligent answer to this question, now it is true that Cardinal Burke has not made any declaration on the status of SSPX in an official act of the Signatura but in his opinion based on his knowledge of canon law so therefore why does the Cardinal persist in this opinion even after this present pope granted them faculties when faculties can not be granted to someone who is outside of the Catholic Church. All I ask is one who has more knowledge than I do to give a concise answer to the original question. Thank you ( Mr Hall makes a good argument in his points)
Because Cardinal Burke is a man like all of us. He makes mistakes, like all of us. If Cardinal Burke said that Africa doesn’t exist it doesn’t change reality.
However, I get your point he is a knowledgeable man and his opinion shouldn’t be discarded so easily. However even men in his area of expertise aren’t infalliable. Just recently it was determined that Roe v Wade wasn’t constitutionally valid and was overturned, despite it being approved by the supreme court.
I also wouldn’t be surprised Cardinal Burke hasn’t looked enough into the issue. All Kennedy is doing is presenting the evidence and until such time that Cardinal Burke or anyone for that matter refutes the evidence the SSPX will not be considered schismatic by many of the faithful.
To @ Lieutenant:Thank you for a balanced well thought out response to the question posed In response to this video
Excellent point @nealk
Lol yes
The SAINT and Pope John Paul the II could not be more clear in his letter. Some rando kiwi lawyer can’t get around this c) In the present circumstances I wish especially to make an appeal both solemn and heartfelt, paternal and fraternal, to all those who until now have been linked in various ways to the movement of Archbishop Lefebvre, that they may fulfil the grave duty of remaining united to the Vicar of Christ in the unity of the Catholic Church, and of ceasing their support in any way for that movement. Everyone should be aware that formal adherence to the schism is a grave offence against God and carries the penalty of excommunication decreed by the Church's law.(8)
It is insane to deny that the SSPX WAS DECLARED IN SCHISM. Plus SSPX DECLARED THEMSELVES IN SCHISM. And that they were proud of it. Letter they all signed on July 6, 1988
Vatican II New Religion, Crisis in the Church, Validity of the New Mass, and much more.
by Fr Gregory Hesse, theologian
For once I think my jealousy will not be judged by the Father in heaven because, there is no SSPX presence in my country ex ept for five pockets, that too in a country with the 2nd highest population, soon to be the 1st. All of you don't know how blessed you are, please pray for us to have this correted soon, we just have the Novus Ordo. YOU DONT KNOW HOW AWFUL THAT IS. No Adoration, no Divine Praises, no retreats, Baptism without the exorcism right, no Confirmation for adults. But tbe worst of all is at confession, most of the sins you confess are insider's not sins at all. Please appreciate the great blessings you have a fight Pope Francis tooth and nail. I have no doubt that Archbishop Lefevre is in heaven. Please send your beloved sons to us soon dear Archbishop, dont love us orphaned.
These topics are getting redundant. I feel like we’ve got the point already.
The man just wrote a fantastic book on the topic, also people are creature of habit and should be reminded of Kennedy’s brand and this message.
@@digitaljman5744 no doubt his book is fantastic. I love Kennedy and his shows when the topics are fresh and bring new perspective. I’m just merely mentioning that at this point it’s a bit of preaching to the choir and I’m a little 😴. I feel like he’s telling us the grass is green and water is wet.
Ok, it’s a form of marketing and getting the message out in tandem with his book, : ) please sister in Christ. pazienza…
Then don’t watch his videos if you can’t handle him responding to the damage done by Lofton, Salza, Bartels, etc.
@@theromanbaron Now that I think about it. You’re right. I should probably just unsubscribe.
If they were not excommunicated, then why was it lifted for the priests. Your takes can't be trusted. Your whole channel hinges on the sspx being justified.
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by Fr Gregory Hesse, theologian
The Saint and pope 100% excommunicated them. How much more clear can it have been written: 3. In itself, this act was one of disobedience to the Roman Pontiff in a very grave matter and of supreme importance for the unity of the church, such as is the ordination of bishops whereby the apostolic succession is sacramentally perpetuated. Hence such disobedience - which implies in practice the rejection of the Roman primacy - constitutes a schismatic act.(3) In performing such an act, notwithstanding the formal canonical warning sent to them by the Cardinal Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops on 17 June last, Mons. Lefebvre and the priests Bernard Fellay, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and Alfonso de Galarreta, have incurred the grave penalty of excommunication envisaged by ecclesiastical law.(4)
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by Fr Gregory Hesse, theologian
You need to address directly that a Saint declared the bishops excommunicated and SSPX in schism. You made a comment that we can’t just assume. This is a distortion of facts. The SSPX declared themselves in schism and the Pope and saint and many other high level Cardinals and Bishops.
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by Fr Gregory Hesse, theologian
Yes he was by St Pope John Paul Ii. Shame on you for blatantly lying!
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by Fr Gregory Hesse, theologian
Vatican II New Religion, Crisis in the Church, Validity of the New Mass, and much more.
by Fr Gregory Hesse, theologian
About your statements about Bishop Guérard des Lauriers, it happens to be that you are WRONG sir, Bishop Lefebvre DID say the New Mass up to Christmas Midnight Mass 1972 when upon request of the then Seminarian Tissier de Mallerais, today Bishop, (done during breakfast on the 24 in a table of at least 6 persons hearing it), Bp. Lefebvre went back to the Traditional Latin Mass. YOU are too young to know first hand this kind of details and YOU SHOULD NOT speak about what you do not know.
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by Fr Gregory Hesse, theologian
Keep in mind that Latin Mass attendance is less than .1% of all mass attendees. Your logical arguments are very flawed. Francis has made clear why he is canceling the traditional mass. It is not an insane position. We may not agree with him but it is not an insane position.
sspx not in my country. i want to attend sspx mass
Are you so sure? Please go back and look at Articles 4 and 5. The use “should” instead of “shall” implies a request or the giving of advise not an order. That’s why where I live we have both the NO and a Diocesan Latin Mass.
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