Thank you Kennedy for your good work. I was confirmed by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and met a saint. I can't explain the sense of peace and holiness that just surrounded him even in silence. His smile was heavenly. When I can afford I will join. Hello from New Zealand. Bernard
NO parishes are afraid that they'll lose their collections if most people move over to the SSPX. The SSPX Latin Mass and Traditional Catholicism have changed my life completely in a relatively short space of time. Thank God and Our Lady for the SSPX.
We attend sspx mass and my wife just had our 8th child. Five of our children are under four years old. SSPX has been given to us by Heaven. When I came to learn about the TLM and stumbled across SSPX I knew right away, without an iota of doubt, that I had found a treasure that I had to hold onto at all costs, cost what it may. Even my very life.
I don't mean to be rude, but how is it possible that you have five children under four years old? The only way I can make sense of this is that each child was born at 7 months with back-to-back pregnancies. Was one of the 5 not yet born at the time of this comment? Please, help me make sense of this.
I have a prayer request. Pray for me my brothers and sisters in Christ. I have so many exams and I am not well. Pray for me and for my colleagues that Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on us and help us pass. That I surrender everything into His hands and allow Him to lead me. I thank you all in advance. Regarding video, the title did surprise me a bit. May Lord Jesus Christ bless you all and Mr. Hall, may Lord Jesus Christ bless you, your family and SSPX.
For one year ago as today I have tried to be in Mass of Ages which it takes place in Chapel st Melchior Grodziecki in south of Poland by SSPX priests. So I have never dreamt that I will be living in that times when the Truth will be perscuted by hierarchy...I am full of joy and ask God to merciful for many people who don't understand this situation and stand oppose to Traditional teaching and Catholic faith.
Can't get much better than Fr. Kallio O.P. Thank you Kennedy. I was raised Catholic and went twelve years to Catholic school. Then I went to our diocesan seminary but left when things got crazy. I essentially left the church, served a tour in Vietnam, and came back to the church when I found out about the Ukrainian Catholic Church. Later the Society came to town and I have been with them for forty years. Now I a third order member SSPX and we have a new church with a 25,000 sq ft protestant church which we bought. It has been quite a ride but I made the right choice and hope to end my days there.
Well said, especially the ending. The social pressure to not attend the sspx is ridiculously high (even more so after the Salza interview). I attend sometimes depending on what my schedule looks like (usually attend the fssp) and have gotten crap about it from both NO catholics and even some trads. And like you, it took me a long time to ever set foot in an sspx chapel because of this opposition even though I thought they were right about most everything. It is frustrating.
To quote Fr. Z on the matter: "Meanwhile, quite a few people would do well to stick a sock in it when it comes to the SSPX. Carping at them, or parroting inaccuracies, does no one any good and it confuses people..... I have on my wall a reproduction of a painting in London’s National Gallery by Salvatore Rosa called “The Philosopher”, possibly a self-portrait. The stern, somberly garbed figure holds a sign with the words: AUT TACE AUT LOQUERE MELIORA SILENTIO. “Either shut up or say something better than silence would be.”" Well said, Fr. Z. 👍
Did Zuhlsdorf tell Cardinal Burke to stick a sock in it? "[T]he fact of the matter is that the Priestly Society of St. Pius X is in schism since the late Abp. Marcel Lefebvre ordained four bishops without the mandate of the Roman Pontiff. And so it is not legitimate to attend Mass or to receive the sacraments in a church that's under the direction of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X."
@@paxchristi2248 Did Zuhlsdorf tell Cardinal Gerhard Mueller to stick a sock in it? 'The canonical excommunication of the bishops for their illegal ordinations was revoked, but a de facto sacramental excommunication remains for their schism; they put themselves out of communion with the Church. After that we are not closing the door and never will, but we are inviting them to be reconciled. But they too must change their attitude, accept the conditions of the Catholic Church, and the Supreme Pontiff as the definitive criterion for membership."
@@littlerock5256 Are you quoting Cardinal Burke or are these your own words? Neither Cardinal Burke nor Fr Z are above Pope Francis, who has given the SSPX priests universal faculties for confession and to witness marriages. By proxy this means they are not in schism, as it would be an impossibility for schismatic priests to receive faculties within the Church, no less from the pope himself. Further, even the diocese of Kansas City acknowledges one may attend a society mass and fulfill one's canonical Sunday obligation, as the many sources from Rome (for example the head of the CDF at the time, above Cardinal Burke) in Fr Z's blog article confirm, if you bother to read them.... This is old hat by now. The SSPX has never been in schism and you can perfectly attend mass and obtain sacraments there, and by default have a much higher chance of saving your soul because you will actually encounter orthodox Catholicism... God bless.
Ironically a NO priest instructed my husband and I to go to the Latin Mass and suggested us to have our children confirmed in SSPX. I’m grateful for him!!! Pray for him daily…our bishop won’t allow Latin to be learned in our diocese… only Spanish and Burmese masses🙄NO of course!!!
That fact that the bishop forbids Latin is highly suspect and his true beliefs in the true faith should be questioned to his face. He sounds very absuy
@@bobtosi9346 he is not a good bishop, which is why my husband and I do not attend Mass in his diocese or our own state! There is one diocesan Latin mass and it’s tucked away in deep coal miner country. He doesn’t get along with the priest that does it. This bishop, whom we pray for daily, moved Pedo priests around in his old diocese, he is still in a lawsuit over that and it’ll never be resolved.😡 I’m grateful for the TLM… I’m finally home!!
WARNING! I am happy you have four children I am one if 7. But current science says you need at least 4 years between each child because the mother becomes depleted of essential minerals. It is detrimental to the mom and the children are born with disadvantages
Kennedy, Just stumbled across a podcast from England called "Catholic Unscripted". The host is a Catholic layman who identified himself as a former priest in the Church of England. He has two associates who appear with him who give excellent commentary about the Church, but the host impressed me to no end with his erudition. The podcast was absolutely terrific, and after I watched it, I looked up the host. His name is Dr. Gavin Ashenden, and it turns out that not only was he an Anglican priest, he was an Anglican bishop. And not only was he a bishop, for ten years he was chaplain to the queen! I highly recommend that you check out his podcasts. I know that you're extremely busy, but don't forget that you can always listen in your car. God bless you, your family, and all you do.
@@MereTraditionChristine Watkins and Gavin Ashenden are both hoaxers. He wrote a FAKE “ imprimatur” for her ridiculous book long after he had stopped being an official of an OBSCURE BRANCH of the Episcopalian sect. You know, that apparitionistista book that promotes that renegade comedian priest from Quebec, and his one man “ seminary” he is collecting money for...😊 We can’t depend on wiki for references, because ANYBODY can add stuff to wiki.
“At that time Jesus answered and said: I confess to thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them to the little ones. Yea, Father; for so hath it seemed good in thy sight.” Matthew 11:25-30
Kennedy, you are one awesome true Catholic. I am fairly new to the TLM and follow only traditional Catholic channels. I currently go to an FSSP parish in Omaha NE. I love every part of it. I have also been to the new Immaculatta in St Mary’s KS. I am trying to learn what the difference is between both. I love this FSSP community but also made some friends at the Immacutla and both are beautiful people. One thing a know after 30+ years of been at the Novus Ordo is that there’s an immense difference between NO & the TLM way of worship. In the TLM communities, you can see the spirit of God so clearly. Those beautiful large young families are true witnesses of Christ. No doubt on my mind. So Kennedy, keep bringing us all the latest news. Know that your work is a light to many of us who were in the dark. Thank you so much!! God bless your family! 🙏🙏
Why should I go to a modern mass? The Latin mass didn’t exist until the 300’s so that was a break from tradition. Wouldn’t it be more traditional to go to a Greek speaking church? Also the Latin church used the vernacular, so wouldn’t that mean a mass that is in the vernacular is more traditional in the Latin rite?
Why should I go to a modern mass? The Latin mass didn’t exist until the 300’s so that was a break from tradition. Wouldn’t it be more traditional to go to a Greek speaking church? Also the Latin church used the vernacular, so wouldn’t that mean a mass that is in the vernacular is more traditional in the Latin rite?
Why should I go to a modern mass? The Latin mass didn’t exist until the 300’s so that was a break from tradition. Wouldn’t it be more traditional to go to a Greek speaking church? Also the Latin church used the vernacular, so wouldn’t that mean a mass that is in the vernacular is more traditional in the Latin rite?
Why should I go to a modern mass? The Latin mass didn’t exist until the 300’s so that was a break from tradition. Wouldn’t it be more traditional to go to a Greek speaking church? Also the Latin church used the vernacular, so wouldn’t that mean a mass that is in the vernacular is more traditional in the Latin rite?
I'm sorry you deal with such ignorance. Ironically, the only sspx church for me is an hour away. I watch the mass on the sspx seminary site regularly. Thank GOD they do livestreams. All the best to you and your family.
Lol! We experienced this "intervention" of old friends roughly 40 years ago! Said "old friends" followed us to St. Mary's. We've all been here ever since. Deo Gratias! 😄 That being said, friends come and go over a lifetime and no friend is worth losing even one little bit of grace. We will be rewarded for he sacrifice of friends, property, home, hometown, or even family members for love of God.
I go to an ICKSP church. About 20 minutes from. There’s actually an SSPX church about 30 minutes from as well. Truthfully, I found the ICKSP first. But if I had found the SSPX first I’d have gone there. But I love the guys from the SSPX
People are generally the same (ignorant and uncharitable) on this issue, no matter where you live. Do the right thing, which is never easy, be sure to please God and not men.
I have a similar situation with your anti-SSPX friends EXCEPT What do you do when your wife is a modernist and has totally disrupted the family prayer life because she got violent over going to mass on Good Friday and don’t like what the priest said even though it was ALL TRUE. The kids LOVE going to SSPX Latin Mass (15 minutes from home) and we’re welcomed with open arms. My wife is about optics not reality. Pray for us.
Give Everything to Our Lady! Talk to her as a child to their mother. Pray for your wife and offer masses for her. Trust in God, be kindly and lovingly honest and sincere, and watch Jordan Peterson on marriage (putting it into Catholic perspective).. it could help a lot, he pretty much saved me and my husband's marriage of 27 1/2 years, ...life, marriage and children are complicated when you come from broken places and most of us have, so it can't hurt to try it. The two becoming one is not as easily joined for many of us as several dovetail joints in a piece of homemade furniture. Also father loop did a couple of excellent videos on marriage on the SSPX podcast, in may of last year, I believe. There's also a plethora of really good videos that I'm confident you will find valuable on there. May God bless and keep you and your family!
I go to FSSP and to be honest if I had the choice between the FSSP and SSPX I would to to SSPX. Nothing wrong with the FSSP, we know Francis is going to shut it down. He wants women priests, married priest.... We need the SSPX Bishops to ordains a lot priests and spread them around the world. Let the FSSP and SSPX come cother and until the vatican is no longer under the control of non-Catholics and enemies of the Church we should stick together.
SSPX is steadfast in holding to the old ways. Tradition is where we know it can't be wrong. 2 Theselonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast: and hold the traditions, which you have learned, whether by word or by our epistle.
I've heard the accounts from multiple participants, that they're fantastically carthartic, spiritually thorough, and life changing. Based on the Spiritual Exercises of St.Ignatius, they are highly recommended.
Yo escuche un sermon de un SacerdotecTradicional en Mexico que empezo diciendo "Hoy voy hablar de como llegar al cielo " y no voy a perder el tiempo con el infierno El que no crea en el infierno tendra una eternidad para comprobarlo "
Our diocesan TLM parish going strong and growing (right now almost exponentially!) for 24 years is literally the hub for sacred music throughout the entire US TLM community. Those of you formally affiliated with the US Sacred Music national organization know who we are. Now it all hangs on a papal document looming over the horizon in two weeks.
Kennedy you are so good! When I saw this tittle I said this is going to be great and you didn't disappoint. I wish I could go to your men's conference but I am not allowed since a woman 😊
It seems these days like Hell is in a quantum state in a superposition of existence and nonexistence. One can find out the truth for certain by dying. Not Schrödinger’s cat, though. No eternal soul.
Well, I’ve been dead. Hell definitely exists, as does heaven. Because I came back I didn’t get the full tour, but i talked to Peter through the gate. Because of my experience I’m HEAVILY critical of that guy Jesse Duplantis and his ridiculous story about going around heaven without even dying. I died and didn’t even get to see what heaven was really like; once you go through the gates you don’t come back. (I don’t typically watch those hucksters that “preach” prosperity gospel, but I do watch content that makes fun of them, and his story really burned my noodles)
@tlm7779mostly personal stuff that i don’t want to talk too much about, but I was going to have to do some penance time in purgatory if I hadn’t come back because I hadn’t fully confessed all of my sins properly, I want to explain to everyone that God IS incredibly merciful, he does not want us to go to hell, but we make our own beds and we will lie in them, so to speak. Works DO matter, also, they’re not the most important factor but they definitely are a factor. It was actually my experience with death that lead me to the Tridentine Mass, Peter said it’s the true mass and will make getting into heaven easier, it seems that Novus Ordo sacraments are valid, but somewhat second class, for lack of a better term. (This is a personal interpretation of what I was told, he never outright told me that Novus Ordo isn’t worthwhile, but he did emphasize Tridentine Traditional Catholicism as the True Faith) The snakes that are leading souls astray will be punished much more harshly than those who have been lead astray. God can see your heart and knows what your intentions are/were. 7:10 just got to this part, but this is an excellent example of what I mean when I say the snakes will be punished far more harshly. Jesus is fairly quiet, (or at least he let Peter, James and Paul do most of the talking to me) but he told me he loves us all, and he wants us to do better than we’ve been doing.
The SSPX is a breath of fresh air for traditional Catholics. How can a priest have faculties in the confessional, step outside the confessional and loose his faculties. There’s something rotten in the state of Denmark. Apostates in Rome have lost their minds.
22:08 This has been bothering me for a while, now: I have very smart people around me who listen to people we would call “Popesplainers,” who wax philosophical and theological and weave these elaborate rationalizations full of nuanced distinctions, and it dawned on me that, if this is truly necessary to understand the Faith, then 99.999999% of the world for almost 2000 years could not possibly have understood the Faith, including some of the holiest, most intellectually simple saints. Now, the Way truly is narrow, but to think that it’s narrow because of such intellectual designs feels gnostic, so that can’t be right. Plus, the witness of the aforementioned simple saints. So, I finally realized consciously that the Truth really must be simpler than all this elaborate pharisaical mumbo jumbo, and so I reject the pharisaical mumbo jumbo.
I always worried about Latin Masses at the NO. Was the priest doing the consecration correctly? We also could not drive the hour through mountain roads in the winter.
Kennedy, Great video as always. I was wondering if you know of anyone or maybe you yourself can give insight/information regarding the Neocatechumenal Way. I'm a traditional Roman Catholic who lives in New Jersey. I go to the TLM here. However, there is a woman who I have been speaking with for a few months now that lives in the Dominican Republic and she has been attending the Neocatechumenal Way for years with her family. I have done some research on the Neocatechumenal Way, but I feel like I do not have a good grasp on why she should stop attending that and start going to the Traditional Latin Mass. Do you know if anyone has done a RUclips video on this from the Trad stand point as to why this is not a good thing to get involved with? Thanks! Dave
How does one straddle the SSPX and NO mass, knowing the inherent flaws of Vatican II? If you attend a NO, it sounds like it’s not Catholic, but the SSPX is valid? I was brought up in the NO (basically just checking the box religiously), recently started to pay very close attention to homilies, transubstantiation questions, and the current pope’s teachings, and wondering if anything I’ve done in and through my church is even Catholic doctrine? Am I even baptized legitimately?
Yes Kennedy it’s unfortunate. We have lots of Catholics. They don’t do their homework. I do have to say. I believe some of them have the tenancy to be busy bodies. And give their opinion on everything that surrounds the church anyhow like you I am also a nobody. But I do agree 100% on all that you have done so far and I’m looking forward to you having Lloyd again on your program. I should say a present he’s having numerous sessions on Pope Pius X. God bless take care to you and your family.
Here in brazil there is a fun thing that, in the rest of the world or the priest is full mordenist, or full trad. But here there are those "tradismatics" priests where they teach the traditional teaching but celebrate the novus ordus. Although it's good because the teach the true teachings, becomes more difficult to explain to someone the problems of the novus ordus
Kennedy - I couldn’t have seen this video at a better time. I’m trying to “steel man” the SSPX in my own mind, by understanding the position of opponents of the SSPX. This was my conclusion as well, though not as well articulated: why do they care? Salza’s interview on PWA seemed a deliberate mischaracterization of the position of the SSPX. Your book is an excellent resource for this mental exercise. Thanks for your dedication to the SSPX & the logic surrounding their positions.
Was part of an Old Catholic mission that didn't make it. There isn't a single SSPX near me. Closest is 3 hours. I may try an Anglican Ordinariate that's an hour away.
GOD bless all Christian people to pray drive/walk around their communities and capitals regularly in a way that brings Gods presence, drives out evil and blesses Gods people- especially St. Michael prayer & Hail Marys- NOTHING WILL EXCEED THE POWER OF DOING THIS
How do you or any other traditionalist reconcile the fact that, in fact, the traditionalist position on partial communion (as represented by Vatican 1) is not the official position of the Roman church? Protestants and the Orthodox are, according to Vatican 2, in partial communion with the Church. That is what your church teaches. You need to follow the teachings of your church or you're a schismatic.
I'm not sure he reads the comments on here but I'm wondering what Kennedy would do if he were several hours one way away from anything remotely resembling a Traditional parish? I once made the very long round trip to an Ordinariate parish but my personal situation and limited finances are not so rosy anymore. I live in a modernist wasteland and have not been to church in 9 years. I cannot stomach the NO. I'm a bad Catholic I know but somehow I wish I could set things to rights before I die.
When you speak of modernism vs. traditionalism I think of realism or truth with idealism or subjectivism. Experience seems subjective and modern while revelation of truth is traditional realism. Not sure if I am getting this somewhat correct but if the church teachings become modern then they become subject to change, idealism and lose their connection to the Being of God. I live in a small community with one Catholic Church, which I need to take a ferry to get to, so I don't have a lot of choice. However how can you test if a church is modern?
Minute 15:05 ??Different Realities, Different Catholicism ?? Mr. Hall you are speaking to what Francis, Cardinal Arther Roche and others have been CLEARLY spouting about Vatican II the last few years. Vatican II was a “Conversion” (Francis’ words not mine) which means; “ a change of belief, a change of religion”. Not kidding, look it up yourself, the word CONVERSION. You’re maybe partially right? Certainly a change of reality, but not a different Catholicism (there is only one Catholicism). Francis, Roche and other choose the word “conversion” carefully. Take it for what it is and what they meant. It’s a different religion. It’s another denomination of the protestant sect. It was all in the works before Vatican II, re-writing all seven sacraments (dismantling the formulas and rubrics) to a point they don’t seem recognizable in the new rite (Novus Ordo) anymore. I invite your listeners to go to an actual Latin Rite Baptism in a FSSP, SSPX, SSPV parish and witness for themselves. They will scratch their heads and ask themselves. What is all this “other extra stuff”. We were warned about this apostasy to occur within the church in several apparitions and prophecies from holy people the likes of Anne Catherine Emmerich, Venerable Archbishops Fulton Sheen, Padre Pio but most importantly our Blessed Mother herself. We are now entering a period with in the church, the new sect, where THEY are poo-poo-ing Marion apparitions, suggesting that Our Mother is a fear-monger and that God would not do such evil chastisements as described in the various apparitions. So, my opinion, you are describing a new reality and a new religion. If there is a “different catholicism” it’s another Protestant (sect) denomination.
I'd like to see a list of churches that don't think going to another church (that coves everyone who isn't in their good graces) is a one way ticket to hell. I'm guessing that list is really really short.
So if Pope Benedict is a modernist (which he is) and thought all kinds of bat crazy modernist ideas (which he did)...why is it so crazy to think one of those modernist ideas was to "expand" the Petrine Ministry? I'm really glad you found the SSPX. To me, they are the heart of the Church and the only reason the Second Coming hasn't happened. When people say "partial communion" I ask "to who? Modernist Rome?" God bless~
Catholics have a lot on their plate. "But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. "
I totally relate to being smart. Smart enough to be stupid sometimes. Something I readily admit. A little knowledge, like fire, can be a terrible thing if not employed correctly.
If the Pope is against the SSPX and or any type of Latin Mass does that mean we are in schism? I also am concerned about following the laws of the church. How do we get tradition and stay in line with the church? Thank you.
It is Church teaching that popes must be obeyed in matters of faith, morals and Church governance, including liturgy. "How do we get tradition and stay in line with the church?" By following the pope. That is also Church teaching. If you find that this is impossible following Francis then that has a consequence...
What makes the sspx different than all the other groups that split of from Communion with the Catholic Church? They all say the same thing that they are more in line with tradition yet they all have different views. I love the Latin Mass, but the TLM is not the most ancient form of Mass in the Church. So what makes the sspx different than all the rest splitting off from the Church?
To my mind, and I agree with your comment. The trad side of that believes they are the catholic church or some remnant thereof. Protestants make no such claim and anyone doing so (clergy or laity) would be laughed out of their church.
instead of trying to fit an elephant in a shoebox, just do FSSP/regular TLM without actually going OUTSIDE of the church herself to SSPX? personally, there is a TLM mass that is 1 hour and 20 minutes away, i go there. it's worth it. i'm WITHIN the church, doing TLM. it's possible.
There is no such thing as partial communion, you’re either in communion with the Church (in the Church) or not in communion (outside the Church, extra Ecclesiam). The SSPX is sadly not in communion, so outside the Church and we all know what comes after “extra ecclesiam”…
Cardinal Lustiger, primate of Paris, was the Jewish cardinal. You may have been thinking about. And he was a convert to the faith was born of Polish Jewish parents.
Poor Mr. Coffin is on that alternate Catholic plane of reality. Apparently one can hold the personal authority to deny the Pontiff is truly the Pontiff, but not disobey any of said non-Pontiff's commands or you're schismatic. Go figure... 🤷♂
Mr. Hall, with respect, the word "fantastic" (or "fantastical") is widely misunderstood today, the old standard dictionary definition being "highly unrealistic or impractical". That said, i'm sure the trip will be absolutely wonderful.
A little unrelated, but since Kennedy Hall brought up 50 Shade of Gray...check out Christian Mario's rap battle with Lofton and Jay Dyer for a good laugh...haha
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God bless the SSPX.. unwavering faithful
Are you concerned with the increasing ties between the SSPX and the novus ordo?
@@littlerock5256 God bless the SSPX!!!
@@LUIS-ox1bv How about God bless the pope of the SSPX, Francis.
Unwavering faithful to Francis?
@@littlerock5256 What increasing ties? There are none.
Thank you Kennedy for your good work. I was confirmed by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and met a saint. I can't explain the sense of peace and holiness that just surrounded him even in silence. His smile was heavenly. When I can afford I will join. Hello from New Zealand. Bernard
Me too! The Archbishop was a holy man, no doubt.
NO parishes are afraid that they'll lose their collections if most people move over to the SSPX. The SSPX Latin Mass and Traditional Catholicism have changed my life completely in a relatively short space of time. Thank God and Our Lady for the SSPX.
I agree, came into the SSPZX in 1974 from being a Protestant & have not looked back & never will!!🙏🙏🙏🙏
Way to go Kennedy 🙏🙏🙏🙏
the only reason FSSP parishes are allowed by the bishop, is because of a large SSPX presence.
Agreed all the NO parishes ever cared about was money, not all of them but most of them.
The best thing ever for me was finding the SSPX! Deo gratias
Me too!
Same. ✝️✝️✝️
Are you concerned with the increasing ties between the SSPX and the novus ordo?
Same here too. And never regret it! DEO GRATIAS❤❤❤
@@marcototo8285 Does the increasing ties between the SSPX and the novus ordo concern you?
My wife and I are about to have our fourth son in under four years. Prayers would be appreciated. Divitiae meae in Filiis meis
In Louisiana, we have 3 SSPX Chapels. Very blessed. ❤
I'm considering moving to Arkansas, I've only found one.
We attend sspx mass and my wife just had our 8th child. Five of our children are under four years old. SSPX has been given to us by Heaven. When I came to learn about the TLM and stumbled across SSPX I knew right away, without an iota of doubt, that I had found a treasure that I had to hold onto at all costs, cost what it may. Even my very life.
I don't mean to be rude, but how is it possible that you have five children under four years old? The only way I can make sense of this is that each child was born at 7 months with back-to-back pregnancies. Was one of the 5 not yet born at the time of this comment? Please, help me make sense of this.
I have a prayer request. Pray for me my brothers and sisters in Christ. I have so many exams and I am not well. Pray for me and for my colleagues that Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on us and help us pass. That I surrender everything into His hands and allow Him to lead me.
I thank you all in advance.
Regarding video, the title did surprise me a bit.
May Lord Jesus Christ bless you all and Mr. Hall, may Lord Jesus Christ bless you, your family and SSPX.
Silvio. Stay off RUclips and put in a full effort with your academic material. Don't be distracted.
Pray as if it all depended on God. Work as if it all depended on you.
Get well soon. These things always pass.
For one year ago as today I have tried to be in Mass of Ages which it takes place in Chapel st Melchior Grodziecki in south of Poland by SSPX priests. So I have never dreamt that I will be living in that times when the Truth will be perscuted by hierarchy...I am full of joy and ask God to merciful for many people who don't understand this situation and stand oppose to Traditional teaching and Catholic faith.
Praying for everyone in Europe fighting the good fight! We're all family in Christ! Please, pray for us! God bless you!
Can't get much better than Fr. Kallio O.P. Thank you Kennedy. I was raised Catholic and went twelve years to Catholic school. Then I went to our diocesan seminary but left when things got crazy. I essentially left the church, served a tour in Vietnam, and came back to the church when I found out about the Ukrainian Catholic Church. Later the Society came to town and I have been with them for forty years. Now I a third order member SSPX and we have a new church with a 25,000 sq ft protestant church which we bought. It has been quite a ride but I made the right choice and hope to end my days there.
Well said, especially the ending. The social pressure to not attend the sspx is ridiculously high (even more so after the Salza interview). I attend sometimes depending on what my schedule looks like (usually attend the fssp) and have gotten crap about it from both NO catholics and even some trads. And like you, it took me a long time to ever set foot in an sspx chapel because of this opposition even though I thought they were right about most everything. It is frustrating.
Self inflicted cancel culture
To quote Fr. Z on the matter: "Meanwhile, quite a few people would do well to stick a sock in it when it comes to the SSPX. Carping at them, or parroting inaccuracies, does no one any good and it confuses people..... I have on my wall a reproduction of a painting in London’s National Gallery by Salvatore Rosa called “The Philosopher”, possibly a self-portrait. The stern, somberly garbed figure holds a sign with the words: AUT TACE AUT LOQUERE MELIORA SILENTIO.
“Either shut up or say something better than silence would be.”"
Well said, Fr. Z. 👍
A great quote!
Did Zuhlsdorf tell Cardinal Burke to stick a sock in it?
"[T]he fact of the matter is that the Priestly Society of St. Pius X is in schism since the late Abp. Marcel Lefebvre ordained four bishops without the mandate of the Roman Pontiff. And so it is not legitimate to attend Mass or to receive the sacraments in a church that's under the direction of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X."
Yes!!!!!
@@paxchristi2248 Did Zuhlsdorf tell Cardinal Gerhard Mueller to stick a sock in it?
'The canonical excommunication of the bishops for their illegal ordinations was revoked, but a de facto sacramental excommunication remains for their schism; they put themselves out of communion with the Church. After that we are not closing the door and never will, but we are inviting them to be reconciled. But they too must change their attitude, accept the conditions of the Catholic Church, and the Supreme Pontiff as the definitive criterion for membership."
@@littlerock5256 Are you quoting Cardinal Burke or are these your own words? Neither Cardinal Burke nor Fr Z are above Pope Francis, who has given the SSPX priests universal faculties for confession and to witness marriages. By proxy this means they are not in schism, as it would be an impossibility for schismatic priests to receive faculties within the Church, no less from the pope himself. Further, even the diocese of Kansas City acknowledges one may attend a society mass and fulfill one's canonical Sunday obligation, as the many sources from Rome (for example the head of the CDF at the time, above Cardinal Burke) in Fr Z's blog article confirm, if you bother to read them.... This is old hat by now. The SSPX has never been in schism and you can perfectly attend mass and obtain sacraments there, and by default have a much higher chance of saving your soul because you will actually encounter orthodox Catholicism... God bless.
Ironically a NO priest instructed my husband and I to go to the Latin Mass and suggested us to have our children confirmed in SSPX. I’m grateful for him!!! Pray for him daily…our bishop won’t allow Latin to be learned in our diocese… only Spanish and Burmese masses🙄NO of course!!!
That fact that the bishop forbids Latin is highly suspect and his true beliefs in the true faith should be questioned to his face. He sounds very absuy
@@bobtosi9346 he is not a good bishop, which is why my husband and I do not attend Mass in his diocese or our own state! There is one diocesan Latin mass and it’s tucked away in deep coal miner country. He doesn’t get along with the priest that does it. This bishop, whom we pray for daily, moved Pedo priests around in his old diocese, he is still in a lawsuit over that and it’ll never be resolved.😡
I’m grateful for the TLM… I’m finally home!!
WARNING! I am happy you have four children I am one if 7. But current science says you need at least 4 years between each child because the mother becomes depleted of essential minerals. It is detrimental to the mom and the children are born with disadvantages
If you can't criticize the head of your church. You are in a cult. The catholic church is not a cult. Act accordingly
Why is the secular world so afraid of Latin? They say religion and God is not real, yet Latin triggers them 😢.
I appreciate your humor Kennedy. You make a great point.
Some will be shocked to find out that Ratzinger, like all post conciliar popes, was also a modernist. Good video Kennedy
“Dare we hope that no souls are in Hell? ……. I mean except for those evil SSPX’ers.”
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That novus ordo "christian charity" ...
THANK YOU KENNEDY HALL FOR ENLIGHTENING US RIGHT ON TARGET 🎯
Kennedy,
Just stumbled across a podcast from England called "Catholic Unscripted".
The host is a Catholic layman who identified himself as a former priest in the Church of England.
He has two associates who appear with him who give excellent commentary about the Church, but the host impressed me to no end with his erudition.
The podcast was absolutely terrific, and after I watched it, I looked up the host.
His name is Dr. Gavin Ashenden, and it turns out that not only was he an Anglican priest, he was an Anglican bishop.
And not only was he a bishop, for ten years he was chaplain to the queen!
I highly recommend that you check out his podcasts. I know that you're extremely busy, but don't forget that you can always listen in your car.
God bless you, your family, and all you do.
Oh yes, he’s great. Love Ashenden
@@MereTraditionChristine Watkins and Gavin Ashenden are both hoaxers. He wrote a FAKE “ imprimatur” for her ridiculous book long after he had stopped being an official of an OBSCURE BRANCH of the Episcopalian sect. You know, that apparitionistista book that promotes that renegade comedian priest from Quebec, and his one man “ seminary” he is collecting money for...😊
We can’t depend on wiki for references, because ANYBODY can add stuff to wiki.
I love watching Dr. Ashenden! I first watched him on “Anglican Unscripted,” which I also found interesting.
Thank you I’m a traditional catholic love your videos
“At that time Jesus answered and said: I confess to thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them to the little ones.
Yea, Father; for so hath it seemed good in thy sight.”
Matthew 11:25-30
Amen, very good thought and scripture reference. Most of Our Lord and Lady’s life is hidden from the world.
Amen completely, thank you God bless!
Kennedy, you are one awesome true Catholic. I am fairly new to the TLM and follow only traditional Catholic channels. I currently go to an FSSP parish in Omaha NE. I love every part of it. I have also been to the new Immaculatta in St Mary’s KS. I am trying to learn what the difference is between both. I love this FSSP community but also made some friends at the Immacutla and both are beautiful people. One thing a know after 30+ years of been at the Novus Ordo is that there’s an immense difference between NO & the TLM way of worship. In the TLM communities, you can see the spirit of God so clearly. Those beautiful large young families are true witnesses of Christ. No doubt on my mind. So Kennedy, keep bringing us all the latest news. Know that your work is a light to many of us who were in the dark. Thank you so much!! God bless your family! 🙏🙏
Go with bergoglio and you're guaranteed 👉🔥👹
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I love BOTH FSSP and SSPX
Me too!
Adhere to Catholic tradition. Attend the Latin Mass.
Amen!
Why should I go to a modern mass? The Latin mass didn’t exist until the 300’s so that was a break from tradition. Wouldn’t it be more traditional to go to a Greek speaking church? Also the Latin church used the vernacular, so wouldn’t that mean a mass that is in the vernacular is more traditional in the Latin rite?
Why should I go to a modern mass? The Latin mass didn’t exist until the 300’s so that was a break from tradition. Wouldn’t it be more traditional to go to a Greek speaking church? Also the Latin church used the vernacular, so wouldn’t that mean a mass that is in the vernacular is more traditional in the Latin rite?
Why should I go to a modern mass? The Latin mass didn’t exist until the 300’s so that was a break from tradition. Wouldn’t it be more traditional to go to a Greek speaking church? Also the Latin church used the vernacular, so wouldn’t that mean a mass that is in the vernacular is more traditional in the Latin rite?
Why should I go to a modern mass? The Latin mass didn’t exist until the 300’s so that was a break from tradition. Wouldn’t it be more traditional to go to a Greek speaking church? Also the Latin church used the vernacular, so wouldn’t that mean a mass that is in the vernacular is more traditional in the Latin rite?
I'm sorry you deal with such ignorance.
Ironically, the only sspx church for me is an hour away. I watch the mass on the sspx seminary site regularly. Thank GOD they do livestreams. All the best to you and your family.
You are making lots of sense bro, God bless
Lol! We experienced this "intervention" of old friends roughly 40 years ago! Said "old friends" followed us to St. Mary's. We've all been here ever since. Deo Gratias! 😄
That being said, friends come and go over a lifetime and no friend is worth losing even one little bit of grace. We will be rewarded for he sacrifice of friends, property, home, hometown, or even family members for love of God.
Glad to hear SSPX has only one leg in hell. Better thsn both.
This video and the points you touch reminded me of the late Father Gregory Hesse and his lectures.
They will stop at NOTHING these people. Thanks for Truth
Fantastic video Kennedy!!! You are such a wonderful source of education for me!!! God bless you!!!
I’m not stupid, I’m a fool for CHRIST.
Thank you Kennedy! Well said!
Thank you for your interesting backstory 🙂
I had similar experiences Mr. Hall! Now I see, am not alone! God Bless.
God bless your mouth
This podcast is extremely well done. God bless you, Kennedy.
When you’re freer to teach Traditional Catholicism in a Protestant school than a Catholic school? Well, just weird but true.
Very good and excellent ironic humour 😊😂
I go to an ICKSP church. About 20 minutes from. There’s actually an SSPX church about 30 minutes from as well. Truthfully, I found the ICKSP first. But if I had found the SSPX first I’d have gone there. But I love the guys from the SSPX
People are generally the same (ignorant and uncharitable) on this issue, no matter where you live. Do the right thing, which is never easy, be sure to please God and not men.
Great show thank you 🔥👏😎. I go to the SSPX Masses also, the SSPX was and is a great refuge for Novus Ordo refugees. God bless 🙏⛪⚓👑.
I have a similar situation with your anti-SSPX friends EXCEPT What do you do when your wife is a modernist and has totally disrupted the family prayer life because she got violent over going to mass on Good Friday and don’t like what the priest said even though it was ALL TRUE. The kids LOVE going to SSPX Latin Mass (15 minutes from home) and we’re welcomed with open arms. My wife is about optics not reality.
Pray for us.
My advice is not to give up the traditional mass no matter what your wife thinks. If you have to, go without her.
Pray and fast for her, offer up good works and intentional sacrifices for her
Give Everything to Our Lady! Talk to her as a child to their mother. Pray for your wife and offer masses for her. Trust in God, be kindly and lovingly honest and sincere, and watch Jordan Peterson on marriage (putting it into Catholic perspective).. it could help a lot, he pretty much saved me and my husband's marriage of 27 1/2 years, ...life, marriage and children are complicated when you come from broken places and most of us have, so it can't hurt to try it. The two becoming one is not as easily joined for many of us as several dovetail joints in a piece of homemade furniture.
Also father loop did a couple of excellent videos on marriage on the SSPX podcast, in may of last year, I believe. There's also a plethora of really good videos that I'm confident you will find valuable on there. May God bless and keep you and your family!
I go to FSSP and to be honest if I had the choice between the FSSP and SSPX I would to to SSPX. Nothing wrong with the FSSP, we know Francis is going to shut it down. He wants women priests, married priest.... We need the SSPX Bishops to ordains a lot priests and spread them around the world. Let the FSSP and SSPX come cother and until the vatican is no longer under the control of non-Catholics and enemies of the Church we should stick together.
SSPX is steadfast in holding to the old ways. Tradition is where we know it can't be wrong.
2 Theselonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast: and hold the traditions, which you have learned, whether by word or by our epistle.
Go on a traditional Ignatian retreat thru the SSPX. You will not be sorry. Well maybe for the sins of your past life….
I've heard the accounts from multiple participants, that they're fantastically carthartic, spiritually thorough, and life changing. Based on the Spiritual Exercises of St.Ignatius, they are highly recommended.
@@LUIS-ox1bvI attended one in 2022. Get yourself to one as quickly as you can.
"Beautiful, wonderful little crosses " So true! 😅
Absolutely am blessed to have an SSPX chapel in my city. ❤️❤️❤️
Lol. Enjoyed listening to your bout with your beautiful, wonderful, crosses.
Yo escuche un sermon de un SacerdotecTradicional en Mexico que empezo diciendo "Hoy voy hablar de como llegar al cielo " y no voy a perder el tiempo con el infierno El que no crea en el infierno tendra una eternidad para comprobarlo "
Our diocesan TLM parish going strong and growing (right now almost exponentially!) for 24 years is literally the hub for sacred music throughout the entire US TLM community. Those of you formally affiliated with the US Sacred Music national organization know who we are. Now it all hangs on a papal document looming over the horizon in two weeks.
Kennedy you are so good! When I saw this tittle I said this is going to be great and you didn't disappoint. I wish I could go to your men's conference but I am not allowed since a woman 😊
This was excellent; one of your best. Many thanks. God bless. Many people would rather be "right" rather than saved.
It seems these days like Hell is in a quantum state in a superposition of existence and nonexistence. One can find out the truth for certain by dying.
Not Schrödinger’s cat, though. No eternal soul.
Well, I’ve been dead. Hell definitely exists, as does heaven. Because I came back I didn’t get the full tour, but i talked to Peter through the gate.
Because of my experience I’m HEAVILY critical of that guy Jesse Duplantis and his ridiculous story about going around heaven without even dying. I died and didn’t even get to see what heaven was really like; once you go through the gates you don’t come back.
(I don’t typically watch those hucksters that “preach” prosperity gospel, but I do watch content that makes fun of them, and his story really burned my noodles)
@tlm7779mostly personal stuff that i don’t want to talk too much about, but I was going to have to do some penance time in purgatory if I hadn’t come back because I hadn’t fully confessed all of my sins properly, I want to explain to everyone that God IS incredibly merciful, he does not want us to go to hell, but we make our own beds and we will lie in them, so to speak. Works DO matter, also, they’re not the most important factor but they definitely are a factor. It was actually my experience with death that lead me to the Tridentine Mass, Peter said it’s the true mass and will make getting into heaven easier, it seems that Novus Ordo sacraments are valid, but somewhat second class, for lack of a better term. (This is a personal interpretation of what I was told, he never outright told me that Novus Ordo isn’t worthwhile, but he did emphasize Tridentine Traditional Catholicism as the True Faith)
The snakes that are leading souls astray will be punished much more harshly than those who have been lead astray. God can see your heart and knows what your intentions are/were.
7:10 just got to this part, but this is an excellent example of what I mean when I say the snakes will be punished far more harshly.
Jesus is fairly quiet, (or at least he let Peter, James and Paul do most of the talking to me) but he told me he loves us all, and he wants us to do better than we’ve been doing.
The SSPX is a breath of fresh air for traditional Catholics. How can a priest have faculties in the confessional, step outside the confessional and loose his faculties. There’s something rotten in the state of Denmark.
Apostates in Rome have lost their minds.
22:08 This has been bothering me for a while, now: I have very smart people around me who listen to people we would call “Popesplainers,” who wax philosophical and theological and weave these elaborate rationalizations full of nuanced distinctions, and it dawned on me that, if this is truly necessary to understand the Faith, then 99.999999% of the world for almost 2000 years could not possibly have understood the Faith, including some of the holiest, most intellectually simple saints.
Now, the Way truly is narrow, but to think that it’s narrow because of such intellectual designs feels gnostic, so that can’t be right. Plus, the witness of the aforementioned simple saints.
So, I finally realized consciously that the Truth really must be simpler than all this elaborate pharisaical mumbo jumbo, and so I reject the pharisaical mumbo jumbo.
I was confirmed by the Archbishop in 85 at St Marys.
I always worried about Latin Masses at the NO. Was the priest doing the consecration correctly? We also could not drive the hour through mountain roads in the winter.
Kennedy,
Great video as always.
I was wondering if you know of anyone or maybe you yourself can give insight/information regarding the Neocatechumenal Way.
I'm a traditional Roman Catholic who lives in New Jersey. I go to the TLM here.
However, there is a woman who I have been speaking with for a few months now that lives in the Dominican Republic and she has been attending the Neocatechumenal Way for years with her family.
I have done some research on the Neocatechumenal Way, but I feel like I do not have a good grasp on why she should stop attending that and start going to the Traditional Latin Mass.
Do you know if anyone has done a RUclips video on this from the Trad stand point as to why this is not a good thing to get involved with?
Thanks!
Dave
How does one straddle the SSPX and NO mass, knowing the inherent flaws of Vatican II? If you attend a NO, it sounds like it’s not Catholic, but the SSPX is valid? I was brought up in the NO (basically just checking the box religiously), recently started to pay very close attention to homilies, transubstantiation questions, and the current pope’s teachings, and wondering if anything I’ve done in and through my church is even Catholic doctrine? Am I even baptized legitimately?
Yes Kennedy it’s unfortunate. We have lots of Catholics. They don’t do their homework. I do have to say. I believe some of them have the tenancy to be busy bodies. And give their opinion on everything that surrounds the church anyhow like you I am also a nobody. But I do agree 100% on all that you have done so far and I’m looking forward to you having Lloyd again on your program. I should say a present he’s having numerous sessions on Pope Pius X. God bless take care to you and your family.
Here in brazil there is a fun thing that, in the rest of the world or the priest is full mordenist, or full trad. But here there are those "tradismatics" priests where they teach the traditional teaching but celebrate the novus ordus. Although it's good because the teach the true teachings, becomes more difficult to explain to someone the problems of the novus ordus
Wow, that's good.
God bless you all.
Kennedy - I couldn’t have seen this video at a better time. I’m trying to “steel man” the SSPX in my own mind, by understanding the position of opponents of the SSPX. This was my conclusion as well, though not as well articulated: why do they care? Salza’s interview on PWA seemed a deliberate mischaracterization of the position of the SSPX. Your book is an excellent resource for this mental exercise. Thanks for your dedication to the SSPX & the logic surrounding their positions.
Humorous, but poignant! 😊
Thank you Kennedy 👍
Thanks, great information.
Was part of an Old Catholic mission that didn't make it. There isn't a single SSPX near me. Closest is 3 hours. I may try an Anglican Ordinariate that's an hour away.
Mic drop at the end! Mad props.
Does this mean that anyone who attends Mass with the SSPX is “partially a schismatic meany dunderhead?”
They have a remote material connection with meany dunderheadedness
GOD bless all Christian people to pray drive/walk around their communities and capitals regularly in a way that brings Gods presence, drives out evil and blesses Gods people- especially St. Michael prayer & Hail Marys- NOTHING WILL EXCEED THE POWER OF DOING THIS
How do you or any other traditionalist reconcile the fact that, in fact, the traditionalist position on partial communion (as represented by Vatican 1) is not the official position of the Roman church? Protestants and the Orthodox are, according to Vatican 2, in partial communion with the Church. That is what your church teaches. You need to follow the teachings of your church or you're a schismatic.
Thank you!
I may go to a SSPX chaple but I'm a son of Christ first and foremost that tries to get to Heaven like every body else
I like your set up 🥰
Great work Kennedy.... You had me laughing at some of the ridiculous modernist justifications.... love it... God bless
I'm not sure he reads the comments on here but I'm wondering what Kennedy would do if he were several hours one way away from anything remotely resembling a Traditional parish? I once made the very long round trip to an Ordinariate parish but my personal situation and limited finances are not so rosy anymore. I live in a modernist wasteland and have not been to church in 9 years. I cannot stomach the NO. I'm a bad Catholic I know but somehow I wish I could set things to rights before I die.
When you speak of modernism vs. traditionalism I think of realism or truth with idealism or subjectivism. Experience seems subjective and modern while revelation of truth is traditional realism. Not sure if I am getting this somewhat correct but if the church teachings become modern then they become subject to change, idealism and lose their connection to the Being of God.
I live in a small community with one Catholic Church, which I need to take a ferry to get to, so I don't have a lot of choice. However how can you test if a church is modern?
Thank you so much for turning the Modernisti mindset on its ear!!! I love your content. God bless you and your apostolate(?) mission (?) calling(?)?
Minute 15:05 ??Different Realities, Different Catholicism ?? Mr. Hall you are speaking to what Francis, Cardinal Arther Roche and others have been CLEARLY spouting about Vatican II the last few years. Vatican II was a “Conversion” (Francis’ words not mine) which means; “ a change of belief, a change of religion”. Not kidding, look it up yourself, the word CONVERSION.
You’re maybe partially right? Certainly a change of reality, but not a different Catholicism (there is only one Catholicism). Francis, Roche and other choose the word “conversion” carefully. Take it for what it is and what they meant. It’s a different religion. It’s another denomination of the protestant sect. It was all in the works before Vatican II, re-writing all seven sacraments (dismantling the formulas and rubrics) to a point they don’t seem recognizable in the new rite (Novus Ordo) anymore. I invite your listeners to go to an actual Latin Rite Baptism in a FSSP, SSPX, SSPV parish and witness for themselves. They will scratch their heads and ask themselves. What is all this “other extra stuff”.
We were warned about this apostasy to occur within the church in several apparitions and prophecies from holy people the likes of Anne Catherine Emmerich, Venerable Archbishops Fulton Sheen, Padre Pio but most importantly our Blessed Mother herself. We are now entering a period with in the church, the new sect, where THEY are poo-poo-ing Marion apparitions, suggesting that Our Mother is a fear-monger and that God would not do such evil chastisements as described in the various apparitions.
So, my opinion, you are describing a new reality and a new religion. If there is a “different catholicism” it’s another Protestant (sect) denomination.
I am an Earth Angel 👼. I have seen Hell. It is very deep. Many layers, but it is all I saw . The Saints like Padre Pio know more.
I'd like to see a list of churches that don't think going to another church (that coves everyone who isn't in their good graces) is a one way ticket to hell. I'm guessing that list is really really short.
ever heard of protestantism? thers like 30,000 of em lmao
So if Pope Benedict is a modernist (which he is) and thought all kinds of bat crazy modernist ideas (which he did)...why is it so crazy to think one of those modernist ideas was to "expand" the Petrine Ministry? I'm really glad you found the SSPX. To me, they are the heart of the Church and the only reason the Second Coming hasn't happened. When people say "partial communion" I ask "to who? Modernist Rome?" God bless~
Catholics have a lot on their plate. "But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. "
I totally relate to being smart. Smart enough to be stupid sometimes. Something I readily admit. A little knowledge, like fire, can be a terrible thing if not employed correctly.
Haha partially
Can someone pay for the subscription for me but how will it be connected to my account . I am not able to subscribe
If the Pope is against the SSPX and or any type of Latin Mass does that mean we are in schism? I also am concerned about following the laws of the church. How do we get tradition and stay in line with the church? Thank you.
It is Church teaching that popes must be obeyed in matters of faith, morals and Church governance, including liturgy.
"How do we get tradition and stay in line with the church?" By following the pope. That is also Church teaching.
If you find that this is impossible following Francis then that has a consequence...
@@littlerock5256 You do not obey a pope who teaches error. If the pope told you to commit a crime would you do it, out of "obedience?"
How can ANY pope be against the mass of thousands of years? The mass that generations of saints attended?
What makes the sspx different than all the other groups that split of from Communion with the Catholic Church? They all say the same thing that they are more in line with tradition yet they all have different views. I love the Latin Mass, but the TLM is not the most ancient form of Mass in the Church. So what makes the sspx different than all the rest splitting off from the Church?
To my mind, and I agree with your comment. The trad side of that believes they are the catholic church or some remnant thereof. Protestants make no such claim and anyone doing so (clergy or laity) would be laughed out of their church.
instead of trying to fit an elephant in a shoebox, just do FSSP/regular TLM without actually going OUTSIDE of the church herself to SSPX? personally, there is a TLM mass that is 1 hour and 20 minutes away, i go there. it's worth it. i'm WITHIN the church, doing TLM. it's possible.
The SSPX is in the Church. Save your nonsensical arguments, they're old news and false to boot.
There is no such thing as partial communion, you’re either in communion with the Church (in the Church) or not in communion (outside the Church, extra Ecclesiam). The SSPX is sadly not in communion, so outside the Church and we all know what comes after “extra ecclesiam”…
Not true.
That was good Kennedy. Thank you.
This is funny. My wife and I had a very similar intervention performed on us.
Cardinal Lustiger, primate of Paris, was the Jewish cardinal. You may have been thinking about. And he was a convert to the faith was born of Polish Jewish parents.
Poor Mr. Coffin is on that alternate Catholic plane of reality. Apparently one can hold the personal authority to deny the Pontiff is truly the Pontiff, but not disobey any of said non-Pontiff's commands or you're schismatic. Go figure... 🤷♂
I bet Coffin would say Bergoglio is not the pontiff.
coffin needs help - pray for him
Mr. Hall, with respect, the word "fantastic" (or "fantastical") is widely misunderstood today, the old standard dictionary definition being "highly unrealistic or impractical". That said, i'm sure the trip will be absolutely wonderful.
A little unrelated, but since Kennedy Hall brought up 50 Shade of Gray...check out Christian Mario's rap battle with Lofton and Jay Dyer for a good laugh...haha
"sheep are stupid!"
Tis true. I raise sheep. They're simply dumb.
VII: Before, we were all Catholics. After, there are Traditionalist and Modernists. I’m still Catholic!