There was a company that made "Foam Domes" in the Colorado Springs area in the 1980's. So this has been around for quite awhile. The one that I worked on was being built to become a daycare center. The company making the dome inflated a plastic form and sprayed the foam on the inside. Later on it was found that the foam was outgassing formaldehyde and the daycare had to close.
@@christinac726 IIRC, it went up on North Academy Blvd., I can't remember where, but somewhere north of Mall of the Bluffs maybe? On the west side (southbound) of Academy. And to the best of my knowledge, they ended up moving the daycare and sold the building off. So I don't think that it was torn down. But nobody was going to send their kids there. As a side note, I worked on that jobsite maybe twice during my electrical apprenticeship. I left Ross Electric (who did that project) around 1979 or 1980, so about 45 years ago. It was a memorable trip, we were sent out to cut off the temporary power to the jobsite, and my journeyman, John Palmer, cut off the power without checking beforehand with the guys shooting the foam (not that we knew that anyone was in the dome, or that the blowers were keeping it inflated). They had blowers keeping the dome inflated, and they all came running out of the dome when we cut the power. They fired up their backup generator and got the dome re-inflated, so no harm was done. They were cool about it, apparently it was a misunderstanding. I was just tagging along as all good apprentices do, so I don't know why we were pulling the temporary power in the first place. The other thing about this job was that it was run in conduit. And due to the curved nature of the walls, there wasn't a straight run in the building. Every stick of conduit had to be bent. I left the Springs in 1986, and haven't been back to the Springs for about 20 years or so. I date back to when N. Academy was a two lane road going into the AFA (around 1967, maybe 1966). Sad to say, but I don't even recognize Academy Blvd. anymore. 😞
As an Architect I see an interesting concept- but the material chosen has me concerned. Why?; Material durability Insulation properties Wind loading and flex actions UV exposure Heavy Rain sounds and abrasion issues Non-Structural properties Ability to hold windows and doors in place Etc, Etc But the big one really is toxicity from gas release and decomposition effects on the internal air quality!! Not a great idea in my opinion
Comprehensive list. Unless they used some type of special type foam with fire retardant properties (I doubt it, but anything is possible), then add fire hazard and toxic smoke to the list.
1.5 million views in 1 month for this topic is insanely awesome! I made a small scale version with cardboard then sprayed it with foam. While the foam was still curing I added a layer of steel shavings. Once hardened I added a layer of concrete then sealed it. Turned out super strong but was emitting VOC's for many months. Perhaps they have better foam that doesn't have toxic off gas. Thanks for making this video!
Regarding VOC, I was thinking the same. Maybe one could try a similar concept that you mention but use clay, similar to how a cob house is build, clay is a fantastic building material!
Yup. Also, no one is talking about the foam particulates that aren't making it onto the frame. Those dangerous bits are going out into the air that we breath, into the dirt, into our food....I don't see this as a viable option for building homes.
I’ve used this product quite a lot and you 100% need to put a protective UV coating over the top as the sun and dust and sand in the wind will absolutely obliterate the foam
Yeah, but there is noooo way that the foam turned that orange in just a couple days. They said it was roof grade, so I imagine it's close to 3lb foam, but I've never used anything that discolors that badly in the time they said it took
Should have chicken wire d the exterior and shot about three inches of spray Crete on it smooth out the surface for a strong weather proof home at ridiculously low cost. Nice.
I sprayed my Spanish brick dome with closed cell foam. Then chicken wire, plaster, and white silicon roof paint. No leeks, no heat, and it looks great.
Plaster is a durable outside material. Needs some touch up maintenance but really all home need that. Had mice eat through just spray foam in very little time.
Hi there, I am a civil engineer and scientist PhD. I investigated the use of foam in construction. It is commonly used for insulation in the United States. One problem is the foam keeps off gasing, i.e., it keep releasing volatile organic compounds (VOCs). Some of these compounds are human carcenogens. This is likely to be worse in warmer temperatures andcontinues for years. Internally this may contaminate the air inside your home. I suggest you try and seal the foam as much as possible. I have hired vaccum chambers hor air analysis but the test is about $1200 and you then need to i trepret the data. The test runs for 24 hours inside your house. Anyway, I suggest you look into this. Finally consider the fire rating, foam can be highly cobustable if it does not contain fire retardants. Regards from New Zealand.
Ive been using this method to do outdoor pondscapes for years. Lean into the paint. any, and I mean any UV will grind the foam to dust. If you miss a good coat on a spot you will know withing six months. The awesome part is if you do need to repair just bread knife out the area thats rough and remove the chunk. I find patching with a coated chicken wire works great for the larger gaps. Looks great! Makes me want to build a small one out by my deer blind to sleep in.
@@johnhart125 I'm curious how it'd hold up to a wind storm. It's a very ridged shape, but with strong enough winds it may flex enough to induce cracking.
@@SimplestUsernameexactly, no load bearing walls, no structural walls, can just blow away with light aluminium frame. Plus polyurethane spray coating, has gassing off in heat, of urethane, so eyes and lungs get irritated. Depends what kind of spray coating was used. If cloth is the only barrier between the spray and the interior, then definitely off gassing will occur into the home structure very easily. They’ll soon find out in the heat of daylight.
@SimplestUsername I bet in any straight on storm it has zero issues since there's no flat surface to catch the wind . The weak spots would be the bottom edge (if wind got under it would be a giant wind sock)
Definitely keep us updated on how it withstands the elements. The blazing sun. The wind. Rain. Hail. Does it keep cool when you need it and warm? If it holds up, this would be a pretty cool home. Super spacious. Maybe in between a teepee and an igloo. We are to the point with technology where I think we can make pretty good structures to live in pretty cheaply. Keep living the dream guys. Dream big.
Wow!! The negative comments are next level. What's wrong with folks building their own version of their dream home? Happy for you both!! I hope you'll both see many happy years & blessings in your home😊
Most of the negatives comments are from people who live in wooden stick houses. Probably got caught up in all the housing market hype in the last few years, and come here to express their jealousy. These people have no mortgage. Probably built this house for 10% of the local market housing cost, and have no crappy neighbors.
I sprayed foam for about 20 years. He was a little lumpy on the smoothness. I would have recommended a Gunnite finish so that the coating wouldn't break down or leave any pinholes for sunlight deterioration. Eventually the dome will have to be recoated. Perhaps you could concrete it then.
I also sprayed foam for 20 years. I tried the Fusion gun that he’s using. I didn’t like it. The pattern is too narrow. Probler P2 all the way! I could spray some super-smooth beautiful stuff with that gun. 🙂
Good idea ! The footings should be higher and wider, at least a foot above the ground and dirt fill inside ! I would go with another coat of light reinforced concrete over the dome and then another light foam coat and then paint...Also I would made rain gutters to collect rain water and do proper rain water drainage around, so it won't get flooded...I hope first storm won't blow it away !
@@michaelcummings7246 Except in Southern Arizona we get some *wicked* Monsoon rainstorms during Monsoon Season! Though, sadly, because of a Climate Change caused drought, we don't get them as strong or as often as we used to in the 80's and 90's - but we still occasionally get one strong enough to knock down trees and power lines an poles. Coincidentally me and my family *lived* on 40 acres ourselves in Kansas Settlement near Wilcox Arizona in the late 80's and early 90's. We were near Wilcox Dry Lake Playa (I could see it from the 3rd floor of the main house - good place to look for meteorites, I found out sadly *after* we moved away) and we did get a little flooding during the Monsoon Rains. (And oh, the almost Biblical plagues of *frogs* - Sonoran Desert Toads - that soon appeared like a green carpet on the desert floor shortly after a rainstorm!! You could not drive without killing *dozens*, as they went *pop* *pop* *pop*. We also got strong dust storms too (a glass diving facemask and a bandana or my dads painting mouth filter mask helped when I had to go outside or from my little guest house to the main house!) Oh yeah, and as for plants grown here - in Wilcox and Kansas Settlement they grow *wine grapes* and *cotton* (a very water intensive crop!) That was done through a combination of Monsoon rainwater, irrigation from wells dug down to the aquifer, and water like Central Arizona Project Water piped in from the Colorado River - but as of 2 years ago we got our State allotment of that water cut because of the drought from less rainfall and less snowpack in the Rockies and other mountains due to warmer weather year after year (aka Global Warming.) On the land we were living on the owners (we rented) had planted a small grove of a few dozen green apple trees - oh yeah, people grow red apple trees for making cider - there is a cider plant - and the owners of the land we were renting had been busted for running a small pot farm on the land (how/why they did not *lose* the land for that, I have no idea!)
@@Yaarahpartridge8847everywhere I've seen foam domes is where the weather is relatively mild. Like southern parts of Utah and Colorado. So my guess would be that its best to avoid extreme hot and extreme cold.
I worked for a commercial flat roof company for a few years..we used basically the same spray set up...trick was staying the same speed with a consistent left to right motion to prevent bumps...
Awesome video, great content, very cool design. We are building a sandbag dome house on our property in southern Alabama, we poured a concrete base and then we are using a concrete/sand mix that is being wetted after being laid. Were going up 8 feet with the sandbags and then the roof is a one piece carbon fiber dome, very light but structurally very strong.
Its Polyurethane foam. isolate 30 degrees of heat. And because of steel structure, create more firm structure, specially dome shape and anchored on Portland concrete. Its great! But remember the life expectancy of these type of foam is 20 years. Protect in the first three years( on time yearly) with a roof coating to avoid sun rays that pulverized the foam. The idea is great enjoy your house.
Unless you seal that foam and keep any moisture from ever seeping into it, you’re good to go. That said, I know a couple who bought a house with a foam dome on one end. They discovered it was a mold factory and had to remove it. They rebuilt it using common building materials. Not foam.
I built one of these myself. After about 3 months of your ears getting use to the quite. I started hearing this low frequency hum and it kept me awake all night. Finally we had to move out of it. I rented it out. After 3 month to the day. I was on the property looking around and the rented and his wife came and asked. Did you hear a low frequency hum late at night. Of course I turned to my wife and ask her did you every here the hum. She said no. I said turn on a fan then for some white noise. But even with the fan it will still drive you crazy if you can hear that good. after a year he had enough and moved out. And i see other houses like yours in the background. If they are running generators. You will hear all the hummms.. from them.
@@KvltKommando Great question, in this instance I think there's only so much one can do to avoid the nature of the beast. However maybe hanging acoustic baffling panels in a decorative manner?
I don’t understand why you couldn’t have just put a fan on or something for some noise…… you tortured yourself that is like the definition of stupid…. You knew there was a home and you made it quieter so you could hear it. Why😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great idea..i like it..white coat for uv protection..then a color coat..solid framework for windows and doors.. If i seen any deterioration i would put on a coating of gunite or lite concrete Good job guys..have fun
I can't wait till you guys get the fame you deserve . You are both amazing people and spread so much positivity! When that final build video comes out your channel will skyrocket! Peace love and happiness everyday! I cherish yall!
This seems the smartest way to build a dome home with high insulation keeping costs low for heating and cooling. I may also suggest spay foaming the inside as well? It has been said more than 3 inches of closed cell foam gives diminishing values and you don't gain that much more with insulation. A very cool concept. You could do this with tents and other fabric based structures. Cool / hot idea!
Looking at the tattoos it's good to see that you guys have rallied from whatever very low place you were in life before to be able to do this, hats off!
@reilly-vc1rm not only that, but when this structure does fail, and it will, all of that turns into more plastic trash. Hopefully these people don't pretend to care about the environment.
There is NOTHING ingenuous about this build! Nothing like thinking you’re doing something cutting edge then finding out you’re not going to be able to live in it! The sheer amount of PFAS chemicals that they’re using is very RECKLESS and the off gassing that’s already happening and will continue to happen and constant heat that will beat down on that place EVEN if they cover it with a reflective material will off gas toxic chemicals that cause cancer, cardiovascular diseases, kidney and liver diseases….need I say more! These people did ZERO research! PFAS chemicals are a list of over 100 toxic chemicals that are put into this foam which are toxic and these chemicals leech! Spray foam is at the top of the list! Teflon is a PFAS chemical, like your teflon cookware! When you cook with it the teflon leeches into your food! PFAS has been found in so many things we use everyday such as city water, anything plastic or plastic coated all the way down to the receipts you get at the grocery store. The shiny coating on the receipt and the shiny coating on your fast food burger wrapper! PFAS can cause infertility and also causes developmental issues in children. I cannot imagine the long term affects of living in this home and breathing it in all day everyday, and the accelerated impact during the hottest days! Very VERY dangerous! The sad part is that because of this couples lack of research they were probably talked into buying into this being a perfect way to build a home cheap and fast . This is because the companies who have been manufacturing these products such as 3M have been sued by the Federal Government and have a short timeframe for getting rid of it and cleaning up the mess they made. Don’t believe me….do your own research please! You’ll be shocked and frightened like I was and still am whenever I come across people in situations like this! Even the plastic sheeting is toxic, forget about the chance of poisoning themselves with the heavy metals that will fall from the pipes they’re using for the dome construction. It’s really sad. PFAS chemicals are also known as Forever Chemicals and that is because these chemicals do not metabolize when they get into your body, they just stack up.
So proud of themselves in the promo pic. Foam lasts for hundreds of years and will breakdown into micro plastics the whole time... There's a reason no one does this!
Closed cell polyurethane foam that is inside of a wall assembly (or protected as such) does not break down. And assuming it is applied properly (new machines will literally not allow you to spray off-ratio) then it also does not "off gas" or "cause cancer". It is used in everything from boats to homes. It is the single best insulator we have in the industry. Furthermore, the new water-based blowing agents (that have become state-mandated years ago) basically eliminate the global-warming potential that was the primary issue with spray foams.
Now lay basalt rock fiber over the exterior and shotcrete on top. Then use the nano sphere paint with microscopic ceramic balls for the hot cold exterior barrier.
No matter what others say, if your happy then it's all good. I lived in an externally foamed cargo container (fitted out with all the comforts of an apartment in any city in the US) in W. Texas for a year and was very comfortable.
Very interesting idea. I think I would have gone another coat in some spots with the foam. Reinforced the inside with wire mesh and then foamed the inside as well. Then painted. Hope it works out for you. It looks great
We plan on foaming another 2 in of interior foam. Our next video will include the details of that. As well as a cost break down and answering a lot of the questions being asked in the comments. Thanks for the helpful input and watching! 🙏🏻❤️
Wild! Someone else is doing what we did 😆 we spray foamed inside of an actual poly covered dome though! Its amazing how solid it feels! We tried many things trying to get it to be a year round structure before landing on sprayfoam!
With many people not being able to afford homes in the city, I think this is genius. Kyle has developed a great method to get people sheltered. I’m thinking about using his services for our homestead.
With the money our country spends on illegals and the protracted funding of the war in Ukraine,it could build whole apartment buildings for our homeless and pay the utilities.
With improvements to materials this could be an idea for future building. The way of the future. You could spray shotcrete on the inside and outside of the dome.
I recall these buildings being very popular in the late 60s, early 70s. Dont know what happened but good to see them back. I believe they are a beautiful alternative to standard over priced structures. They FEEL great inside to live in,especially with plenty of light. GO DOME !
Formaldehyd happened, those old foam thingies were basically cancer houses. We got a lot smarter about what chemicals we use in construction these days, it’s not the same foam we used back then. Can’t make up my mind what I think about this, seems like a lot of work on one hand to essentially live in a giant Tupperware bowl that got turned on its head. On the other hand I can appreciate a construction that’s essentially one piece with no seams, then again that’s mostly useful for water tightness, not exactly a large issue in a desert … Speaking about water tightness, pretty sure that foam is completely water and airtight, it can’t breathe. Don’t know enough about desert climate to know wether that’s a problem or not, but in continental climates and given experiences with indoor insulation of older houses, you’ll be growing mold in no time. Also rodents. They love that stuff, building tunnels and nests in it. Easy enough to stop but something one has to pay attention too.
Looks pretty cool but I think you need 2 coats of foam. You could see light spots where it wasn’t as thick. I might have gone with spray on concrete but that’s me.
Interesting concept.. only thing I’d say is going back and touching up the thin portions and probably applying some sort of coating like a stucco or plaster for that extra layer of protection. Plus is it was a rapid pretty cost effective build. I hope y’all enjoy your new home
Thanks for the inspiration!!! 👍👍👍 I want to build a really tiny (6 ft x 8 ft and 7 ft height) recording studio portable in my backyard around a noisy main street corner, These type of spray-foam-build on a sound-proof-tent with zip-able entrance is perfect for my need !!!
Perhaps I missed it, but I would like to know if you are using open or closed foam. Another question I would like answered is if there are any off-gas issues.
Two active chemical formulations are combined within the tip of the sprayer device, each at a specific, temperature pressure and ratio, that "prints" a new formulation that is inert (no off-gas unless multiple easily-trackable things went very meaningfully wrong), and could be either water-permeable or water-resistant, with variable fire-proofing, shock / sound absorption and insulation options depending on the chemicals and application method / depth. That does not mean that we want all of these things in our lungs though, just saying.
@logsdonfred maybe look up the production process for those materials at some point. I can guarantee that there will never be another fiberglass plant built in the United States for one.
I'm thinking not... as it looks like closed-cell foam (low expansion) and that will reduce down to minimal off-gas issues once it's cured, as it has in the video - (seeing as it was applied outside in the breezy winds as well). The plastic inner barrier should mean very little issues within? It's painted as well. I think I would have liked some chicken-wire/fence-wire on the outside of the dome structure before the foam, but it seems like an interesting idea.
Many years ago i hauled a water tank insulated. it had 6" spray then covered in a spray on truck liner spay to cover it for weather it was brought to Canada for oilfield work
That's right! I remember that! But the foam is very different nowadays. Several adventurous builders have done this successfully now. The thing is they always end up coating the outside and the inside with Ferrocement or Latex-cement with helix steel additive. It just finishes it off properly and adds incredible strength per dollar spent. I'd bet money that this couple will do the same.
I have a 1100 sq ft in-ground greenhouse and I had the roof and the sides above ground sprayed and I never smell a thing but it's it's huge it's a 16-ft ceiling in it so that could be why
It is so exciting to see new building materials. I love the dome too. I had freinds in the 70's that built a dome house. It was awesome. Yours looks so amazing.
You can just cob the outside of it or wherever may cause you issues in the future. Then it's indestructible. Plus ou already have all the material you need to make cob . I think you you did awesome!
I built in foam too. I certainly hope that you use double glazed windows, believe me it makes a huge difference. Good work guy's! What thicknesses are you going for, we went for a min of 4.5 uncharted then backed it up with render with a fibre 6mm hole mesh.
Thanks! We sincerely appreciate the support and helpful tips! We are going for 4in total. 2 outside and down the line we will do 2in on the inside once our plumbing and electric are complete. All the windows are high altitude dual pane.
@@Rambybambi 90 percent extruded styrene. Closed cell spray foam for sealing off all possible air leakage points. That is the main secret of a well insulated house. We even have styrene blocks in the concrete floorm
@@kezzatries There's a company called Strata international that uses eps type 2 foam sheets that you glue with foam spray cans. Exterior panels are 12" and 8" thick, after plumbing and electrical are done its incased with their special concrete mix. I will definitely use their product to build my next home in the coming year.
@@Rambybambi thanks, I will look them up after replying to you. That's certainly a very thick insulation. I would say that it is designed for extremely cold environs. I live in Australia in an area where our minimum night temp is 2 degrees C, our house gets no less than 18.6 degC. We have a very efficient wood stove that only gets two burns a night in the months of June to September. Our Max summer temp can be 45 degC and on such days our inside temp goes up-to 29 C, but usually we are 36 outside with an inside temp of 25, we only have 12v ceiling fans, which we got from India, but we do have 4 meter ceilings, so that helps. Make sure you get double or even triple glazed windows, well worth the extra 💰 and block up all air holes. It's about controlled air flow.
Im an old construction guy. I agree with you. Concrete is really the way to go. I watched what they did in the video and thought to myself, if you threw in a couple load bearing beams you could probably get away with using the spray foam as insulation and after it cures go back and coat it with pool cement.
If you were talking standard construction you might have a valid point! I'm amazed to see how many "pros" are correcting those who are making educated guesses (after all i didn't think that many have made a foam covered dome). The "pros" are the same guys who get in violent arguments over changes in tech like the use of structural screws
@@GoPoundSalt Yea, too much chemicals in that spray foam. I would never live in a house with all that. Yea you can paint walls to seal it in, but who knows. Maybe not a good experiment when it is your life.
We built a dome in the mid 70s.2 X4 struts, 1/4 plyood for skin and sprayed urethane on exterior. Week later a thick coat of an elastomeric paint. Worked fine for a couple of years until a hailstorm made it looked like a giant golfball with no easy resolution
I spray foam a lot, as in I'm sick of it. And you're going to need a couple more coats because you absolutely DO NOT have 2" of foam on the top. At 13:30 when you walk inside you can see light spots everywhere, that indicates less than 1". Also when you attempt to walk on it painting the way it sags is at most an inch. 4" should have been the MINIMUM done in 2 layers. You need to address it with whoever told you 2" was sufficient for a permanent structure immediately. The domes we've done were all 4-6" depending on the environment. This is an epic fail waiting to happen
How sustainable is this foam? Will it leak toxins into the surrounding? How healthy is it living in such a place with all the fumes etc? It looks great but are the technical properties and the price as well as the quality of living really that much better than using the materials nature gives us in our direct surrounding?
No fumes at all with this type of foam. It can only offgas during the initial reaction for less than 15 seconds while it is expanding then it becomes completely innert. The foam is closed cell and has a hard shell like an epoxy resin.
That foam isn't natural as a tree. I'm not an engineer and don't hate their effort. I once heard if a ranch in South Texas that was using the land in a way to save water and it produced green pastures while others were dry. I also don't know this area about water,wind and other variables but I'm sure they probably saved some money doing things themselves.
I too was worried about the toxic nature of cheap foam but there are products out there that are much friendlier to the environment. They mentioned the need to paint due to its sensitivity it uv light which tell me it is the less toxic stuff. And it is only 2 inches thick so its probably not that durable over the long tern. I would probably do a 2-3 inch adobe outer layer with "chicken wire" in between. Trim all the openings with bamboo based wood inside and out and use reclaimed wood, stone, and metals to finish the interior. Most materials you can get for little more than the cost of time and fuel. Habitat restores are a great resource for building materials and fixtures. Granit countertops for about $10 per foot, kitchen cabinets for $25-100 each flooring for $1 per sq ft. Sinks, tubs, lighting, and furniture all for pennies on the dollar. And i always see fixtures and other stuff on fb market for free. So you only pay full price for the land, main structure, electrical, and plumbing.
Sadly for them , i would bet money that house is unliveable within 5 years unless they spray a 30 mm layer of foamcrete or styrocrete over it then while its still wet , wrap it in mesh and spray another 50 mm of foamcrete over the top as an absolute minimum. . For me i would have just used Hempcrete from day one with no nasty chemicals. Where they live they could have grown the hemp , decorticated by hand , dried it , mixed their own hempcrete and poured it into a dome slipform.
They just hating. I LOVE IT . Very DOPE. ID had the concept of doing that with a tent. I so happen to stumble on to this. Many people didn't understand Tesla either.
Could've been a 7 day build if they had rented a mini excavator for 2 days and gotten a concrete truck in there the third day. Time is money, and they wasted a lot of time with shovels and bagged concrete.
Foam isnt great with liquid water so whatever they seal it with will be very important to be water repellent. Foam has a terrible halflife for its rvalue as it degrades with time. It also provides the least rvalue per inch thickness. Its installation quality also impacts wjether you get that rvalue or not. Foam is noy a silver bullet for anything. Its used strategically in traditional srick framing for air sealing which is a great use, but as other commenters have pointed out its a very toxic material and there arent any recycling methods for it :(
this is an industrial exterior roofing product designed to hold up to rain, hail, heat, etc. UV light definitely damages it over time which is why we keep it coated in UV protective paint. Kyle's dome is built the same way as ours and his house has R value off the charts.
Sorry, but this comment is far from reality on nearly every point. Closed cell spray foam has the HIGHEST R-value of any commercially available insulation, and has less degradation than other insulation types as well. It is also the only insulation that doesn't need replaced when flooded out, and adds tremendous structural strength to the structure. It is also the only insulation that doesn't absorb dirt, dust, mouse feces, mold, and other contaminants. There's a reason you pay a premium for it!
I would be interested in using spray Crete on the inside. It would provide a barrier to the foam and add some weight to the structure. Good luck with the adventure. That is a sincere statement. It does look super cool. It would also not leak like a geodesic dome house, but still look cool. 😎
Eventually we will coat it in either shotcrete, stucco, or maybe even bedliner material. This surface that it has will last for 50 years plus so we have time to decide
I really enjoyed this and have tremendous respect for the fellow doing most of the work. What a test of physical endurance! I have always liked this concept, but have concerns about susceptibility to fire and chemical vapors. I really hope it works out well for you. Some type of inorganic concrete type of material would eliminate any fire risk or VOCs.
Awesome I built a straw bale dome in Flagstaff in 1999...just got 5 acres in Winslow and am going for a hybrid foam design!!! luv your methodology ,,YOUSE 2 ARE SOULMATES
The paint has a lifetime warranty and the foam will also last 50 plus years as long as it's protected from the sun. we will probably just repaint it every decade or so either way tho!
From a forty year experienced painter native Arizonian. Paint in Arizona just doesn't last and the darker the color the more abuse it gets from sun. Phoenix is used for test ground for more paint manufacturers than you can imagine. Just thought info might help.
I did a roof with this stuff 20 years ago , it holds up really well but its important to keep up with doing touch up paint on any bits that get damaged because the UV especially at high altitude with deteriorate the material quickly.
Love what you did there with the "Bisbone Ranch" title!-) Wishing you all the best-things are looking fantastic over there. As your neighbor, I have a perfect view of your dome from our Observation Deck. Subscribed and looking forward to seeing what you do next!
I love the shape of dome houses, besides they withstabd tornados and high winds. My question is, why did you built right on that flat valley floor? Personally I would have built on a slight hill, or made one in order to build the house onto it. Besides you could have doug out a small swimming hole/water reservoir. On valley floors it can easely flood in heavy rain. I lived in AZ so I know what I am talking about.
I've seen the geometric dome concept done in a few ways. Not sure the foam is the best. I would love to see a version of this done with a mud or daub wall overlay though. It gives so much room go creative expression on the covering while also being cheap and economically sustainable. Of course it needs to be coated and maintained for long term durability, but as I understand it the materials actually work quite well. Congrats on ur new home. Hope everything works out for u! ❤
Interested in hearing the performance of the foam over this winter! We need to build a pump house for the well and this would be a thought to keep it insulated during low winter low temperatures in a ravine (not a lot of sun in the winter. I have to know if this is worth contemplating in our build in Northern Nevada! Great video and information you two!!
There was a company that made "Foam Domes" in the Colorado Springs area in the 1980's. So this has been around for quite awhile. The one that I worked on was being built to become a daycare center. The company making the dome inflated a plastic form and sprayed the foam on the inside. Later on it was found that the foam was outgassing formaldehyde and the daycare had to close.
Yea……. That’s what I’d worry about.
This is the comment I was looking for. I knew it was toxic in some ways.
That was 80's tech, now the foam is safer, unless you buy tiger foam or that cheap crap from china..
Being from Colorado Springs I found that interesting and there are quite a few domes around here
@@christinac726 IIRC, it went up on North Academy Blvd., I can't remember where, but somewhere north of Mall of the Bluffs maybe? On the west side (southbound) of Academy. And to the best of my knowledge, they ended up moving the daycare and sold the building off. So I don't think that it was torn down. But nobody was going to send their kids there.
As a side note, I worked on that jobsite maybe twice during my electrical apprenticeship. I left Ross Electric (who did that project) around 1979 or 1980, so about 45 years ago. It was a memorable trip, we were sent out to cut off the temporary power to the jobsite, and my journeyman, John Palmer, cut off the power without checking beforehand with the guys shooting the foam (not that we knew that anyone was in the dome, or that the blowers were keeping it inflated). They had blowers keeping the dome inflated, and they all came running out of the dome when we cut the power. They fired up their backup generator and got the dome re-inflated, so no harm was done. They were cool about it, apparently it was a misunderstanding. I was just tagging along as all good apprentices do, so I don't know why we were pulling the temporary power in the first place.
The other thing about this job was that it was run in conduit. And due to the curved nature of the walls, there wasn't a straight run in the building. Every stick of conduit had to be bent.
I left the Springs in 1986, and haven't been back to the Springs for about 20 years or so. I date back to when N. Academy was a two lane road going into the AFA (around 1967, maybe 1966). Sad to say, but I don't even recognize Academy Blvd. anymore. 😞
As an Architect I see an interesting concept- but the material chosen has me concerned. Why?;
Material durability
Insulation properties
Wind loading and flex actions
UV exposure
Heavy Rain sounds and abrasion issues
Non-Structural properties
Ability to hold windows and doors in place
Etc, Etc
But the big one really is toxicity from gas release and decomposition effects on the internal air quality!!
Not a great idea in my opinion
yup..the off gassing in the heat of daylight…😮
What’s its fire retardant properties or is it an accelerant??
Interesting, just curious what the flame retardant status of this foam is. I know some are super flammable.
@@kmsch986Grenfell Tower burned for 2 days and killed 72 people all in the name of saving the planet with foam insulation.
Comprehensive list. Unless they used some type of special type foam with fire retardant properties (I doubt it, but anything is possible), then add fire hazard and toxic smoke to the list.
1.5 million views in 1 month for this topic is insanely awesome! I made a small scale version with cardboard then sprayed it with foam. While the foam was still curing I added a layer of steel shavings. Once hardened I added a layer of concrete then sealed it. Turned out super strong but was emitting VOC's for many months. Perhaps they have better foam that doesn't have toxic off gas. Thanks for making this video!
Did you use an actual 2 part urethane spray rig or was it foam in a can (Great Stuff or similar)?
Regarding VOC, I was thinking the same. Maybe one could try a similar concept that you mention but use clay, similar to how a cob house is build, clay is a fantastic building material!
Yup. Also, no one is talking about the foam particulates that aren't making it onto the frame. Those dangerous bits are going out into the air that we breath, into the dirt, into our food....I don't see this as a viable option for building homes.
@@columbia2635 exactly, this is simply as stupid as boiling water in a plastic cube.
He's wearing a respirator mask for application... enough said! 😮
I’ve used this product quite a lot and you 100% need to put a protective UV coating over the top as the sun and dust and sand in the wind will absolutely obliterate the foam
Yeah, but there is noooo way that the foam turned that orange in just a couple days. They said it was roof grade, so I imagine it's close to 3lb foam, but I've never used anything that discolors that badly in the time they said it took
Should have chicken wire d the exterior and shot about three inches of spray Crete on it smooth out the surface for a strong weather proof home at ridiculously low cost. Nice.
D@@joycemyers8140
I sprayed my Spanish brick dome with closed cell foam. Then chicken wire, plaster, and white silicon roof paint. No leeks, no heat, and it looks great.
Plaster is a durable outside material. Needs some touch up maintenance but really all home need that. Had mice eat through just spray foam in very little time.
KYLE was extraordinary he works so hard. Beautiful job. Hope you so it decorated. God bless you in your new home.
Thank you so much!
Hi there, I am a civil engineer and scientist PhD. I investigated the use of foam in construction. It is commonly used for insulation in the United States. One problem is the foam keeps off gasing, i.e., it keep releasing volatile organic compounds (VOCs). Some of these compounds are human carcenogens. This is likely to be worse in warmer temperatures andcontinues for years. Internally this may contaminate the air inside your home. I suggest you try and seal the foam as much as possible. I have hired vaccum chambers hor air analysis but the test is about $1200 and you then need to i trepret the data. The test runs for 24 hours inside your house. Anyway, I suggest you look into this. Finally consider the fire rating, foam can be highly cobustable if it does not contain fire retardants. Regards from New Zealand.
You built Thunderfoam. Two hippies enter, one hippy leaves...
The most underrated comment in here …….. just perfect 👍
This had me crackin up lol.
I laughed so hard when I read this comment.
Love it and I love y’all for posting it.
Because of the new mad max movie all of the old ones are being resurfaced I just watched all of them in a benge but thunder dome is my favorite
@@sonsybaton925 me too, I watched the first mad max literally two days ago.
Ive been using this method to do outdoor pondscapes for years. Lean into the paint. any, and I mean any UV will grind the foam to dust. If you miss a good coat on a spot you will know withing six months. The awesome part is if you do need to repair just bread knife out the area thats rough and remove the chunk. I find patching with a coated chicken wire works great for the larger gaps. Looks great! Makes me want to build a small one out by my deer blind to sleep in.
Problem is, UV rays will penetrate the plastic and erode that thing!
If I have nothing good to say, say nothing 😅
I love the concept , minimal building material , insulated what more does anyone really need !
Brain
These two just proved that if you skip every step in building a house except applying insulation then the house gets built faster.
Wild!
Interesting, longevity is a question I'd have as well on exterior maintenance
@@johnhart125 I'm curious how it'd hold up to a wind storm. It's a very ridged shape, but with strong enough winds it may flex enough to induce cracking.
I'm extremely impressed by the size.... of the hole in the ozone layer they caused.
@@SimplestUsernameexactly, no load bearing walls, no structural walls, can just blow away with light aluminium frame. Plus polyurethane spray coating, has gassing off in heat, of urethane, so eyes and lungs get irritated. Depends what kind of spray coating was used. If cloth is the only barrier between the spray and the interior, then definitely off gassing will occur into the home structure very easily. They’ll soon find out in the heat of daylight.
@SimplestUsername I bet in any straight on storm it has zero issues since there's no flat surface to catch the wind . The weak spots would be the bottom edge (if wind got under it would be a giant wind sock)
Definitely keep us updated on how it withstands the elements. The blazing sun. The wind. Rain. Hail. Does it keep cool when you need it and warm? If it holds up, this would be a pretty cool home. Super spacious. Maybe in between a teepee and an igloo. We are to the point with technology where I think we can make pretty good structures to live in pretty cheaply. Keep living the dream guys. Dream big.
Delusional.
Wow!! The negative comments are next level. What's wrong with folks building their own version of their dream home? Happy for you both!! I hope you'll both see many happy years & blessings in your home😊
I’m with you, I love their spirit and unique style and your positive attitude 😊😊😊😊
I agree 100%~ awesome!
Most of the negatives comments are from people who live in wooden stick houses.
Probably got caught up in all the housing market hype in the last few years, and come here to express their jealousy.
These people have no mortgage. Probably built this house for 10% of the local market housing cost, and have no crappy neighbors.
Very good comment you’re so right my friend. Hi praise to these people who built their own dome and spray foam it.
People are just very unhappy, and want to spread it.
I sprayed foam for about 20 years. He was a little lumpy on the smoothness. I would have recommended a Gunnite finish so that the coating wouldn't break down or leave any pinholes for sunlight deterioration. Eventually the dome will have to be recoated. Perhaps you could concrete it then.
I also sprayed foam for 20 years. I tried the Fusion gun that he’s using. I didn’t like it. The pattern is too narrow. Probler P2 all the way! I could spray some super-smooth beautiful stuff with that gun. 🙂
This would definitely be a good alternative to those displaced out of their homes after the storms a-temporary residence♥️
Good idea ! The footings should be higher and wider, at least a foot above the ground and dirt fill inside ! I would go with another coat of light reinforced concrete over the dome and then another light foam coat and then paint...Also I would made rain gutters to collect rain water and do proper rain water drainage around, so it won't get flooded...I hope first storm won't blow it away !
Just from the look of the plants I'd expect them to get less than 5" of rain a year so water collection would be minimal
Who died and made you THEE expert??
@@michaelcummings7246 Except in Southern Arizona we get some *wicked* Monsoon rainstorms during Monsoon Season! Though, sadly, because of a Climate Change caused drought, we don't get them as strong or as often as we used to in the 80's and 90's - but we still occasionally get one strong enough to knock down trees and power lines an poles.
Coincidentally me and my family *lived* on 40 acres ourselves in Kansas Settlement near Wilcox Arizona in the late 80's and early 90's. We were near Wilcox Dry Lake Playa (I could see it from the 3rd floor of the main house - good place to look for meteorites, I found out sadly *after* we moved away) and we did get a little flooding during the Monsoon Rains. (And oh, the almost Biblical plagues of *frogs* - Sonoran Desert Toads - that soon appeared like a green carpet on the desert floor shortly after a rainstorm!! You could not drive without killing *dozens*, as they went *pop* *pop* *pop*.
We also got strong dust storms too (a glass diving facemask and a bandana or my dads painting mouth filter mask helped when I had to go outside or from my little guest house to the main house!)
Oh yeah, and as for plants grown here - in Wilcox and Kansas Settlement they grow *wine grapes* and *cotton* (a very water intensive crop!) That was done through a combination of Monsoon rainwater, irrigation from wells dug down to the aquifer, and water like Central Arizona Project Water piped in from the Colorado River - but as of 2 years ago we got our State allotment of that water cut because of the drought from less rainfall and less snowpack in the Rockies and other mountains due to warmer weather year after year (aka Global Warming.) On the land we were living on the owners (we rented) had planted a small grove of a few dozen green apple trees - oh yeah, people grow red apple trees for making cider - there is a cider plant - and the owners of the land we were renting had been busted for running a small pot farm on the land (how/why they did not *lose* the land for that, I have no idea!)
@@meatdog That's not how expertise works, Puppy.
We need a part 2!! Tour of the inside once decorated!!!
Ya I wanna see the bucket they crap in
Please!!
Is this expensive to do? Is it better in the hotter climate or can this be done where it gets below freezing too??
@@Yaarahpartridge8847everywhere I've seen foam domes is where the weather is relatively mild. Like southern parts of Utah and Colorado. So my guess would be that its best to avoid extreme hot and extreme cold.
I worked for a commercial flat roof company for a few years..we used basically the same spray set up...trick was staying the same speed with a consistent left to right motion to prevent bumps...
I was thinking the same thing. The guy spraying the foam is one hard worker. Going above and beyond.
As opposed to the "Woo Girl" who whooped and patted the building and looked ornamental.
Awesome video, great content, very cool design. We are building a sandbag dome house on our property in southern Alabama, we poured a concrete base and then we are using a concrete/sand mix that is being wetted after being laid. Were going up 8 feet with the sandbags and then the roof is a one piece carbon fiber dome, very light but structurally very strong.
Its Polyurethane foam. isolate 30 degrees of heat. And because of steel structure, create more firm structure, specially dome shape and anchored on Portland concrete. Its great! But remember the life expectancy of these type of foam is 20 years. Protect in the first three years( on time yearly) with a roof coating to avoid sun rays that pulverized the foam. The idea is great enjoy your house.
How do you think hempcrete might compare 🤔
Oh that is a huge fire hazard as well
@@brutallyhonestdollreviews and wood construction isnt ?
@@kimobailey2926 that's why I live in concrete
Unless you seal that foam and keep any moisture from ever seeping into it, you’re good to go. That said, I know a couple who bought a house with a foam dome on one end. They discovered it was a mold factory and had to remove it. They rebuilt it using common building materials. Not foam.
I built one of these myself. After about 3 months of your ears getting use to the quite. I started hearing this low frequency hum and it kept me awake all night. Finally we had to move out of it. I rented it out. After 3 month to the day. I was on the property looking around and the rented and his wife came and asked. Did you hear a low frequency hum late at night. Of course I turned to my wife and ask her did you every here the hum. She said no. I said turn on a fan then for some white noise. But even with the fan it will still drive you crazy if you can hear that good. after a year he had enough and moved out.
And i see other houses like yours in the background. If they are running generators. You will hear all the hummms.. from them.
Yep that's what it's like living inside a drum
@@cameronturner7077 is it because the open floor plan? Whats the solution?
@@KvltKommando
Great question, in this instance I think there's only so much one can do to avoid the nature of the beast. However maybe hanging acoustic baffling panels in a decorative manner?
I don’t understand why you couldn’t have just put a fan on or something for some noise…… you tortured yourself that is like the definition of stupid…. You knew there was a home and you made it quieter so you could hear it. Why😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great idea..i like it..white coat for uv protection..then a color coat..solid framework for windows and doors..
If i seen any deterioration i would put on a coating of gunite or lite concrete
Good job guys..have fun
I can't wait till you guys get the fame you deserve . You are both amazing people and spread so much positivity! When that final build video comes out your channel will skyrocket! Peace love and happiness everyday! I cherish yall!
This seems the smartest way to build a dome home with high insulation keeping costs low for heating and cooling. I may also suggest spay foaming the inside as well? It has been said more than 3 inches of closed cell foam gives diminishing values and you don't gain that much more with insulation. A very cool concept. You could do this with tents and other fabric based structures. Cool / hot idea!
You can use foam sheets and gue them with canned foam and encase them with concrete, that's what strata international does for foam buildings
Styrene..off gass..carcinogen
Looking at the tattoos it's good to see that you guys have rallied from whatever very low place you were in life before to be able to do this, hats off!
What do those tattoos mean?
Do tattoos mean you've been in very low places in life?
I respect the people for their hard work ingenuity and passion for creating a place to live.
Kyle is a worker! Go Kyle!!
It’s a beauty.
@reilly-vc1rm not only that, but when this structure does fail, and it will, all of that turns into more plastic trash. Hopefully these people don't pretend to care about the environment.
They work hard at nothing.
There is NOTHING ingenuous about this build! Nothing like thinking you’re doing something cutting edge then finding out you’re not going to be able to live in it! The sheer amount of PFAS chemicals that they’re using is very RECKLESS and the off gassing that’s already happening and will continue to happen and constant heat that will beat down on that place EVEN if they cover it with a reflective material will off gas toxic chemicals that cause cancer, cardiovascular diseases, kidney and liver diseases….need I say more! These people did ZERO research! PFAS chemicals are a list of over 100 toxic chemicals that are put into this foam which are toxic and these chemicals leech! Spray foam is at the top of the list! Teflon is a PFAS chemical, like your teflon cookware! When you cook with it the teflon leeches into your food! PFAS has been found in so many things we use everyday such as city water, anything plastic or plastic coated all the way down to the receipts you get at the grocery store. The shiny coating on the receipt and the shiny coating on your fast food burger wrapper! PFAS can cause infertility and also causes developmental issues in children.
I cannot imagine the long term affects of living in this home and breathing it in all day everyday, and the accelerated impact during the hottest days! Very VERY dangerous! The sad part is that because of this couples lack of research they were probably talked into buying into this being a perfect way to build a home cheap and fast . This is because the companies who have been manufacturing these products such as 3M have been sued by the Federal Government and have a short timeframe for getting rid of it and cleaning up the mess they made.
Don’t believe me….do your own research please! You’ll be shocked and frightened like I was and still am whenever I come across people in situations like this! Even the plastic sheeting is toxic, forget about the chance of poisoning themselves with the heavy metals that will fall from the pipes they’re using for the dome construction. It’s really sad.
PFAS chemicals are also known as Forever Chemicals and that is because these chemicals do not metabolize when they get into your body, they just stack up.
hope Kyle has a heap of kids. would love to see a future full of young adults with his work ethic.
So proud of themselves in the promo pic.
Foam lasts for hundreds of years and will breakdown into micro plastics the whole time...
There's a reason no one does this!
youth is wasted on the young lol
Good. That will replenish the oil supply since plastic is made from oil. Enjoy.
Plastic doesn't break down that easy. They're still trying to find a bacteria that can effectively break it down.
500 years + i hope it blows away 🤣
Closed cell polyurethane foam that is inside of a wall assembly (or protected as such) does not break down. And assuming it is applied properly (new machines will literally not allow you to spray off-ratio) then it also does not "off gas" or "cause cancer". It is used in everything from boats to homes. It is the single best insulator we have in the industry. Furthermore, the new water-based blowing agents (that have become state-mandated years ago) basically eliminate the global-warming potential that was the primary issue with spray foams.
Now lay basalt rock fiber over the exterior and shotcrete on top. Then use the nano sphere paint with microscopic ceramic balls for the hot cold exterior barrier.
The first time I saw Kyle's work was on Tiny Shiny Home and his work is just brilliant...
No matter what others say, if your happy then it's all good. I lived in an externally foamed cargo container (fitted out with all the comforts of an apartment in any city in the US) in W. Texas for a year and was very comfortable.
aircrete might make a good topcoat and interior skimcoat to reduce offgassing and add structural support
Looks like a summer igloo 😊so Kool very lite footprint.in the sand.👍
Very interesting idea. I think I would have gone another coat in some spots with the foam. Reinforced the inside with wire mesh and then foamed the inside as well. Then painted. Hope it works out for you. It looks great
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Yep! There are a bunch of spots that are for sure less than 2 inches foam. Reinforcement is 100% not a bad idea!
We plan on foaming another 2 in of interior foam. Our next video will include the details of that. As well as a cost break down and answering a lot of the questions being asked in the comments. Thanks for the helpful input and watching! 🙏🏻❤️
Cool idea 💡 😊😊
You chose the color right
Wild! Someone else is doing what we did 😆 we spray foamed inside of an actual poly covered dome though! Its amazing how solid it feels! We tried many things trying to get it to be a year round structure before landing on sprayfoam!
I work for an insurance broker. There isn't a single company i know of that would insure that.
I would not live in it. Safer in a tent.
Why would one need insurance? Just spray it again if something happens.
Nobody asked about insurance. Troll.
Call Federated, those guys are great and actually understand construction.
Don't worry, its not worth anything either.
With many people not being able to afford homes in the city, I think this is genius. Kyle has developed a great method to get people sheltered. I’m thinking about using his services for our homestead.
With the money our country spends on illegals and the protracted funding of the war in Ukraine,it could build whole apartment buildings for our homeless and pay the utilities.
With improvements to materials this could be an idea for future building. The way of the future. You could spray shotcrete on the inside and outside of the dome.
I recall these buildings being very popular in the late 60s, early 70s. Dont know what happened but good to see them back. I believe they are a beautiful alternative to standard over priced structures. They FEEL great inside to live in,especially with plenty of light. GO DOME !
Formaldehyd happened, those old foam thingies were basically cancer houses. We got a lot smarter about what chemicals we use in construction these days, it’s not the same foam we used back then. Can’t make up my mind what I think about this, seems like a lot of work on one hand to essentially live in a giant Tupperware bowl that got turned on its head. On the other hand I can appreciate a construction that’s essentially one piece with no seams, then again that’s mostly useful for water tightness, not exactly a large issue in a desert …
Speaking about water tightness, pretty sure that foam is completely water and airtight, it can’t breathe. Don’t know enough about desert climate to know wether that’s a problem or not, but in continental climates and given experiences with indoor insulation of older houses, you’ll be growing mold in no time. Also rodents. They love that stuff, building tunnels and nests in it. Easy enough to stop but something one has to pay attention too.
Looks pretty cool but I think you need 2 coats of foam. You could see light spots where it wasn’t as thick. I might have gone with spray on concrete but that’s me.
Interesting concept.. only thing I’d say is going back and touching up the thin portions and probably applying some sort of coating like a stucco or plaster for that extra layer of protection. Plus is it was a rapid pretty cost effective build. I hope y’all enjoy your new home
❤ I am so glad that you are doing a video soon .
Can’t wait to see what y’all are up to next .
Have fun stay safe and thanks for messaging me.❤❤❤
Thanks for the inspiration!!! 👍👍👍
I want to build a really tiny (6 ft x 8 ft and 7 ft height) recording studio portable in my backyard around a noisy main street corner, These type of spray-foam-build on a sound-proof-tent with zip-able entrance is perfect for my need !!!
This is awesome guys!! Congratulations 🎉
Perhaps I missed it, but I would like to know if you are using open or closed foam. Another question I would like answered is if there are any off-gas issues.
Walls are made of a material that requires a full hasmat suit with a respirator to install. Cool!!! Let's live in it!
Daaaaamn!
@pookie
Off gas ?
Two active chemical formulations are combined within the tip of the sprayer device, each at a specific, temperature pressure and ratio, that "prints" a new formulation that is inert (no off-gas unless multiple easily-trackable things went very meaningfully wrong), and could be either water-permeable or water-resistant, with variable fire-proofing, shock / sound absorption and insulation options depending on the chemicals and application method / depth. That does not mean that we want all of these things in our lungs though, just saying.
But so is ge stuff that are filled in a many standard homes it's process is probably way less harmful to the earth
@logsdonfred maybe look up the production process for those materials at some point. I can guarantee that there will never be another fiberglass plant built in the United States for one.
That shack will NEVER stop off gassing.
I'm thinking not... as it looks like closed-cell foam (low expansion) and that will reduce down to minimal off-gas issues once it's cured, as it has in the video - (seeing as it was applied outside in the breezy winds as well). The plastic inner barrier should mean very little issues within? It's painted as well. I think I would have liked some chicken-wire/fence-wire on the outside of the dome structure before the foam, but it seems like an interesting idea.
House of CANCER!
*But not a bad house for $347.23 US*
@@1nvisible1 True, but you know it definitely wouldn't be that cheap here.
@@1nvisible1they will spend the rest of the money on canver treatment tho so .......
Hitting the whole thing with shot-crete would be a great way to prevent offgassing and add thermal mass.
I was impressed by Kyle's work ethic. That guy earned his wage!!!!
lol. He is also being filmed. Couldn’t afford to look like a slacker
I check your account every day for a new update.
We all need a new video.
Love your channel.
Thanks friend! We are currently working on one and it will be coming out in the next couple of days. Stay tuned and thanks for watching. =)
Many years ago i hauled a water tank insulated. it had 6" spray then covered in a spray on truck liner spay to cover it for weather it was brought to Canada for oilfield work
There's nothing new under the sun. This is an old idea that was shelved in the 80s for a reason 😳. Bless their hearts😮
That's right! I remember that! But the foam is very different nowadays. Several adventurous builders have done this successfully now. The thing is they always end up coating the outside and the inside with Ferrocement or Latex-cement with helix steel additive. It just finishes it off properly and adds incredible strength per dollar spent. I'd bet money that this couple will do the same.
@@seanleecraigexactly! Eventually will be covered in rhino liner type polyurea
Bless your heart for being uninformed.
The 80s are long gone
Imagine the radical concept that sprayfoam technology has advanced over the succeeding four decades. Sincerely, your smartphone.
does the foam smell and for how long?
I have a 1100 sq ft in-ground greenhouse and I had the roof and the sides above ground sprayed and I never smell a thing but it's it's huge it's a 16-ft ceiling in it so that could be why
Хороший домик. С новосельем!
It is so exciting to see new building materials. I love the dome too. I had freinds in the 70's that built a dome house. It was awesome. Yours looks so amazing.
This stuff has been around for years.
This product in not meant to be used outside as it gets destroyed by UV radiation. This is why they are forced to paint it.
...this is not new.
I'd like to see it when it's move in ready. It's a good thing you didn't get some high winds during the construction.
That's freaking awesome!
Guys, guys, I got it: "E.T. foam home."
You can just cob the outside of it or wherever may cause you issues in the future. Then it's indestructible. Plus ou already have all the material you need to make cob . I think you you did awesome!
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Wow that must of felt so great after 6 months of prep to see her go up and complete in just 4 days. Well done :)
My neighbors would lose their mind if I built that lol… I wish I could live in the desert … super cool guys, glad your proud of it!!
Gettin after it friends. Incredible turn around 🎉 congratulations on making it this far!!!
Thanks dude!! Love you guys 😘
Courageous guys. Great job. ❤❤❤ The best to you.
I built in foam too. I certainly hope that you use double glazed windows, believe me it makes a huge difference.
Good work guy's!
What thicknesses are you going for, we went for a min of 4.5 uncharted then backed it up with render with a fibre 6mm hole mesh.
Thanks! We sincerely appreciate the support and helpful tips! We are going for 4in total. 2 outside and down the line we will do 2in on the inside once our plumbing and electric are complete. All the windows are high altitude dual pane.
With spray foam?
@@Rambybambi 90 percent extruded styrene. Closed cell spray foam for sealing off all possible air leakage points. That is the main secret of a well insulated house.
We even have styrene blocks in the concrete floorm
@@kezzatries There's a company called Strata international that uses eps type 2 foam sheets that you glue with foam spray cans. Exterior panels are 12" and 8" thick, after plumbing and electrical are done its incased with their special concrete mix. I will definitely use their product to build my next home in the coming year.
@@Rambybambi thanks, I will look them up after replying to you.
That's certainly a very thick insulation.
I would say that it is designed for extremely cold environs. I live in Australia in an area where our minimum night temp is 2 degrees C, our house gets no less than 18.6 degC. We have a very efficient wood stove that only gets two burns a night in the months of June to September.
Our Max summer temp can be 45 degC and on such days our inside temp goes up-to 29 C, but usually we are 36 outside with an inside temp of 25, we only have 12v ceiling fans, which we got from India, but we do have 4 meter ceilings, so that helps. Make sure you get double or even triple glazed windows, well worth the extra 💰 and block up all air holes. It's about controlled air flow.
extremely cool saw as interview with Kyle and his family and their cool foam home on tiny shiny home seriously love this idea... love the color
Thats incredible!! Cant wait to see your new 🏠 journey!
Everyone in the comment section is a pro at this, but never done it. Hmm sounds like my comment section about concrete
We love keyboard warriors, lol
Im an old construction guy. I agree with you. Concrete is really the way to go. I watched what they did in the video and thought to myself, if you threw in a couple load bearing beams you could probably get away with using the spray foam as insulation and after it cures go back and coat it with pool cement.
Yes keyboard warriors with all the knowledge 😏 Go figure
Anyway this thing looks amazing , I love the design, Excellent job and the colour perfect ✌️
If you were talking standard construction you might have a valid point! I'm amazed to see how many "pros" are correcting those who are making educated guesses (after all i didn't think that many have made a foam covered dome).
The "pros" are the same guys who get in violent arguments over changes in tech like the use of structural screws
All these people without houses claiming this aint a house....
If you can afford it in the future you should put stucco. It is more resilient to the Sun and harsh weather.
I believe that stucco with lime last 100s++ years.
How much chemically made is this foam? How long will it take earth to absorb it?
@@GoPoundSalt Yea, too much chemicals in that spray foam. I would never live in a house with all that. Yea you can paint walls to seal it in, but who knows. Maybe not a good experiment when it is your life.
@@rickdeckardbladerunner2049 This chemical foam is epic insanity, and then, they will teach us about green life on virgin ground.
Fire?
Just FYI 2 inches of foam was used on space shuttle fuel tanks and went up and then down and then reused, burned foam would be removed and re sprayed.
We built a dome in the mid 70s.2 X4 struts, 1/4 plyood for skin and sprayed urethane on exterior. Week later a thick coat of an elastomeric paint. Worked fine for a couple of years until a hailstorm made it looked like a giant golfball with no easy resolution
I spray foam a lot, as in I'm sick of it. And you're going to need a couple more coats because you absolutely DO NOT have 2" of foam on the top. At 13:30 when you walk inside you can see light spots everywhere, that indicates less than 1". Also when you attempt to walk on it painting the way it sags is at most an inch. 4" should have been the MINIMUM done in 2 layers. You need to address it with whoever told you 2" was sufficient for a permanent structure immediately. The domes we've done were all 4-6" depending on the environment. This is an epic fail waiting to happen
Thanks that is great advice from a expert should I try this in the future.
We have a foam guy in our area with leukemia, foam is going to off gas...
Like I said 4 days to build the house and the rest of your life to be poisoned by it.
Styrene.. 100 percent carcinogen. People think foam spray I'd inert but it isn't. Even EPA says this.
If the inner liner is airtight and the foam is external, any offgassing would just offgas to the putside air?
You would be surprised how many residential and commercial buildings are insulated with foam
all of our homes are killing us
Looks pretty dang awesome , would love to have one myself . Great job !
Very cool guys. That building looks very cool in the desert.
Thanks 😊🙏🏻
This is awesome!
You’re awesome!!! Thanks brotha!! Love and miss you guys ❤
ET foam home!.
I love it ❤
Rhino coat would make the outside bulletproof
How sustainable is this foam? Will it leak toxins into the surrounding? How healthy is it living in such a place with all the fumes etc? It looks great but are the technical properties and the price as well as the quality of living really that much better than using the materials nature gives us in our direct surrounding?
No fumes at all with this type of foam. It can only offgas during the initial reaction for less than 15 seconds while it is expanding then it becomes completely innert. The foam is closed cell and has a hard shell like an epoxy resin.
That is sooo unique. I think you should give it a giant blossom on top
Would love to get a cost breakdown. Love the natural color of the dome.
Thank you! We tried finding a color that would blend in with our environment. Cost breakdown video coming very soon! 🙂
That foam isn't natural as a tree. I'm not an engineer and don't hate their effort. I once heard if a ranch in South Texas that was using the land in a way to save water and it produced green pastures while others were dry. I also don't know this area about water,wind and other variables but I'm sure they probably saved some money doing things themselves.
Least eco materials
To build eco ? If that's even the idea here
The windload must be incredible
Compared to what a a slab sided house with overhanging eves it would be less than 1/2.
No flat surfaces for the wind to grab.
So cool! Very exciting build.
Holy Mackerel! Amazing!
Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤
I too was worried about the toxic nature of cheap foam but there are products out there that are much friendlier to the environment. They mentioned the need to paint due to its sensitivity it uv light which tell me it is the less toxic stuff. And it is only 2 inches thick so its probably not that durable over the long tern. I would probably do a 2-3 inch adobe outer layer with "chicken wire" in between. Trim all the openings with bamboo based wood inside and out and use reclaimed wood, stone, and metals to finish the interior. Most materials you can get for little more than the cost of time and fuel. Habitat restores are a great resource for building materials and fixtures. Granit countertops for about $10 per foot, kitchen cabinets for $25-100 each flooring for $1 per sq ft. Sinks, tubs, lighting, and furniture all for pennies on the dollar. And i always see fixtures and other stuff on fb market for free.
So you only pay full price for the land, main structure, electrical, and plumbing.
Sadly for them , i would bet money that house is unliveable within 5 years unless they spray a 30 mm layer of foamcrete or styrocrete over it then while its still wet , wrap it in mesh and spray another 50 mm of foamcrete over the top as an absolute minimum.
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For me i would have just used Hempcrete from day one with no nasty chemicals.
Where they live they could have grown the hemp , decorticated by hand , dried it , mixed their own hempcrete and poured it into a dome slipform.
They just hating. I LOVE IT . Very DOPE.
ID had the concept of doing that with a tent. I so happen to stumble on to this. Many people didn't understand Tesla either.
Wish i could bet on kyle being a millionaire within a year. His work ethic is gonna land him more work than he's capable of doing
You don't know him personally. And he will never be a millionaire ripping people off.
-Title : Build a house in 4 days
-Me : curious about how we can build a house in 4 days...
-Video : *"It's been 6 months..."*
-Me : flips the table
Could've been a 7 day build if they had rented a mini excavator for 2 days and gotten a concrete truck in there the third day. Time is money, and they wasted a lot of time with shovels and bagged concrete.
@@drummerforpeace they built a SHELL in 4 days not a house. There is no wiring, no plumbing, no floor, no anything but a shell.
@@dawg2100 they built a tent in 4 days. that's a negative record.
@@rablobanda hadn't thot abou it that way😂
I've never seen anybody foam a dome like that but it's a neat idea~
Foam isnt great with liquid water so whatever they seal it with will be very important to be water repellent. Foam has a terrible halflife for its rvalue as it degrades with time. It also provides the least rvalue per inch thickness. Its installation quality also impacts wjether you get that rvalue or not.
Foam is noy a silver bullet for anything. Its used strategically in traditional srick framing for air sealing which is a great use, but as other commenters have pointed out its a very toxic material and there arent any recycling methods for it :(
this is an industrial exterior roofing product designed to hold up to rain, hail, heat, etc. UV light definitely damages it over time which is why we keep it coated in UV protective paint. Kyle's dome is built the same way as ours and his house has R value off the charts.
Sorry, but this comment is far from reality on nearly every point. Closed cell spray foam has the HIGHEST R-value of any commercially available insulation, and has less degradation than other insulation types as well. It is also the only insulation that doesn't need replaced when flooded out, and adds tremendous structural strength to the structure. It is also the only insulation that doesn't absorb dirt, dust, mouse feces, mold, and other contaminants. There's a reason you pay a premium for it!
I would be interested in using spray Crete on the inside. It would provide a barrier to the foam and add some weight to the structure. Good luck with the adventure. That is a sincere statement. It does look super cool. It would also not leak like a geodesic dome house, but still look cool. 😎
Eventually we will coat it in either shotcrete, stucco, or maybe even bedliner material. This surface that it has will last for 50 years plus so we have time to decide
I vote shotcrete on the outside
I really enjoyed this and have tremendous respect for the fellow doing most of the work. What a test of physical endurance! I have always liked this concept, but have concerns about susceptibility to fire and chemical vapors. I really hope it works out well for you. Some type of inorganic concrete type of material would eliminate any fire risk or VOCs.
Awesome I built a straw bale dome in Flagstaff in 1999...just got 5 acres in Winslow and am going for a hybrid foam design!!! luv your methodology ,,YOUSE 2 ARE SOULMATES
So cool! Strawbales are amazing structures! Congrats and cheers to the new venture in Winslow! Thanks for your love and support!
I have got to check into spray foam prices exclamation point, building small off-grid structures that just looks most awesome !!
What’s the expected maintenance of the outer shell you think? 5 yrs or more?
The paint has a lifetime warranty and the foam will also last 50 plus years as long as it's protected from the sun. we will probably just repaint it every decade or so either way tho!
From a forty year experienced painter native Arizonian. Paint in Arizona just doesn't last and the darker the color the more abuse it gets from sun. Phoenix is used for test ground for more paint manufacturers than you can imagine. Just thought info might help.
I did a roof with this stuff 20 years ago , it holds up really well but its important to keep up with doing touch up paint on any bits that get damaged because the UV especially at high altitude with deteriorate the material quickly.
Elastomeric is best for the roof, because it reflects the sun.
Any dark colors will absorb the heat and uv rays.
I would coat it with rhino bed liner to put a waterproof hard shell over it
Heck yeah! either Berliner or stucco down the line, but this will be plenty sturdy for many years as it is,
Myth busters did test with it and rhino bed liner is pretty much blast proof lol
...creating the waste of Tomorrow? Why?! Better use the soil around that plastic dome...
What’s more wrong an ecological disaster or an old lady with a nose ring?🤔
Love what you did there with the "Bisbone Ranch" title!-) Wishing you all the best-things are looking fantastic over there. As your neighbor, I have a perfect view of your dome from our Observation Deck. Subscribed and looking forward to seeing what you do next!
I love the shape of dome houses, besides they withstabd tornados and high winds. My question is, why did you built right on that flat valley floor? Personally I would have built on a slight hill, or made one in order to build the house onto it. Besides you could have doug out a small swimming hole/water reservoir. On valley floors it can easely flood in heavy rain. I lived in AZ so I know what I am talking about.
I've seen the geometric dome concept done in a few ways. Not sure the foam is the best. I would love to see a version of this done with a mud or daub wall overlay though. It gives so much room go creative expression on the covering while also being cheap and economically sustainable. Of course it needs to be coated and maintained for long term durability, but as I understand it the materials actually work quite well. Congrats on ur new home. Hope everything works out for u! ❤
Interested in hearing the performance of the foam over this winter! We need to build a pump house for the well and this would be a thought to keep it insulated during low winter low temperatures in a ravine (not a lot of sun in the winter. I have to know if this is worth contemplating in our build in Northern Nevada! Great video and information you two!!