Not quite a scam. Non citizens living in the US pay social security taxes. My spouse moved to the US and not a citizen and still have to pay all the same taxes
He must apply to derived citizenship and then retroactively restore all the benefits he’s entitled to His father should’ve registered him at American embassy in Canada and made the American passport for him. Instead, he probably brought him from Canada either with a Canadian passport or birth certificate.
I’d love for someone to be able to dig up some social media posts he posted to see what he said about illegal immigrants who was deported after living here for 30 years with a wife, kids, and no criminal record.
Equal Law for everyone. There are hundreds of thousands who actually have lost limbs fighting for the USA and are still not considered eligible to be US citizen. No special favor to him just because he is white. Back of the line he needs to go, and wait for his turn.
He can do it himself now. It's never too late. Just go to the immigration and get that done. Hell, call lying Ted Cruz how he got his papers changed over to be a US citizen. Hehehe. 😮😅😮😊😮😊😅😮
So you want to give all illegals Social Security tax refunds? Or all of their taxes. Because a lot of them pay if you do contact your representative because there’s no law that allows the government to do that.
@user-otzlixr not sure how it works in the us. but in my country SS deduct & income tax are separate. if they're also separate in the US, I think it's fair for the man to get his SS benefit?
@@zeroturn7091Nah blame the bozos stealing from him now. “But bureaucracy rules!” is a poor excuse for allowing a government to steal a man’s hard earned retirement.
I lived in US for 7 years, I had drivers license ane social security, but I wasn't US citizen. Having those does not mean you are a citizen. How he voted for 40 years is beyond me. That says alot about American election results.
Social Security cards have a number. The numbers will ID if you are Citizen or not. It will also say if you are eligible to work if you are not a citizen. I believe this man is a citizen but the social security has messed up. I had a problem when I was 23 and lost my social security when I got the new one, it said something to the effect , not allowed to work, which was for none USA student studying within the USA. I look at the woman straight in the eye and said, Fix it. You have my military records and my brith certificate on file. she stated, we don't keep those records. I said oh yes you do. Now look. She did and fix it and I had to wait another two weeks for the correct one. I also keep my records with my City Records deportment. That means military, legal status, and will. It's helpful in case my house burns down or destroyed or if someone at social security tries to say otherwise. The city authenticates the paper work. Many people don't do it because records are publics but at the end of the day. I rather have my paperwork authenticated and if I ever need something. I can get a legal copy.
@@Brandon-qr2orLike how you're here illegally after committing genocide on the natives? Sounds like trespassing, battery, felony theft, grand larsony, 1st degree murder, false imprisonment, etc.
So, he's been voting, joined the military, paid his taxes and now it's an issue. Really? He should be given a total refund for all the taxes he has paid, that's terrible.
So if you aren’t a citizen of America you don’t pay taxes to America. But he did. I totally agree with you. In the eyes of the government/tax department, he wasn’t required to pay American tax as they say he’s not American, but he did pay tax - so refund him the money he wasn’t supposed to pay - simple.
@@peterc.1618 Yup. Heard that. Also heard, must find interviews, or u can - if you are American and move here to Australia you still have to pay tax in America as well as here.i think it’s in any country they move to, not sure, must watch it again. Poor Americans were shocked when they found out. I did a quick google. *All U.S. citizens, regardless of other nationalities they may hold, maintain their obligations to the United States, including the requirement to file annual tax returns.
@@chuongnguyen5068 you also don’t have to be a citizen to pay into those things. You can get a SS number as a permanent resident. As far as a retirement fund, that could be thru his employer, he can collect that but can’t collect SS until he fixes his immigration status. Any other bright ideas?
Technically, you only qualify for citizenship by descent if one parent lived in the country for a certain period, even if the parent is a citizen. They seem to be operating under the old law, given the 10-year requirement. However, the current physical presence requirements are as follows: - The parent has been physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for at least 5 years. - The parent met this physical presence requirement for at least 2 years after reaching 14 years of age.
@@XxMobileWizXx Wasn't aware of these. Are these new? I'm a dual citizen, so for me this would mean if I have a kid after living abroad - even IF that kid were born in the USA - the kid will not receive US citizenship?
@@Longknife Yes your child would be a citizen because anyone born in the borders of the USA gets citizenship at birth even if the parents are in the country illegally. What I was saying is for children born abroad outside the USA to an American parent.
It's because birthright citizenship is only enshrined in the Constitution for those born on American soil. Those born overseas who may become citizens at birth through a parent, receive citizenship through Acts of Congress, not through the Constitution. At the time he was born, the law that Congress had passed, stated that not only did a parent have to be an American citizen, but they had to have had certain residency requirements in the US. This would have prevented for instance, someone who was born in the United States (and so had birthright Constitutional citizenship), but then who's family moved to a foreign country (say England) when they were young (say 3 years old) and they spent the rest of their lives in England, that person who was born in the US, had US citizenship, but spent the rest of their lives in England, would not be able to pass their American citizenship to their own children because they didn't have enough years living in America despite being a US citizen.
It seems to be an universal thing that whenever your money is coming out of your pocket, you have zero problems anywhere in the world, but when is time to get paid, there’s always an issue everywhere… Amazing…
That is a complete lie. Illegal immigrants get no social security benefits but still have to pay all the taxes US citizens have to pay, being a legal resident also doesn’t allow you to get benefits you must be a citizen or you get nothing from the federal government.
You also have to have paid into it. You don’t get to just be like “Hello, I’m a recovering crackhead and this is my r-tarded sister I take care of. I’d like some welfare please” and just get it.
Ahhh yes, first comment I see bringing race into this. Why don’t you go actually do a research paper on what you’re saying and then show me and maybe I’ll take your comment seriously.
@@tiffanylamp100 specific paperwork has to be filed; a Consular Report of Birth Abroad, within 300 days of the birth, I believe. It's not automatic. There are other requirements involved, including, as mentioned in the video, that the parent with citizenship has to reside in the US or it's territories for a specific period of time prior to taking residence in another country.
No he's not because you say so? He's already broken the biggest law being here illegally. He's not getting a pass just because he's white. It's his problem he thought he was legal not anybody else's. He needs to move on and leave.
@@jared9643 that is not true. It seems like he may be Canadian. There is a treaty in place. Even when he moves back to Canada, he can collect Social Security if he has enough credits which he seems to have.
This is outrageous. They issued him all his documents and let him work until he was an old man then gives him the middle finger. Can’t say I’m surprised. This system is so wicked and the people in charge are worse. Imagine how they treated the native peoples and the slaves that they brought here for hundreds of years before they were even considered humans. Not to mention how they neglect our veterans. Anyway social security will run out of money in 10 years so they will scrape wherever to try and save it.
You realize the people who processed his social security number 50+ years ago are not even there anymore, right? This is not because of people in the government being wicked or evil. It's just a system that needs fixing through legislation in a humane and integral way.
Just make sure you’re eligible to retire within in the next 10 years because SS is slated to run out of funds after that we are all going to end up like the old man in this story. That’s not a probability that is facts. Do your readers, the US is 35 trillion dollars in debt and it will take 5 generations to pay that back. There has never been a civilization since the beginning of time that has ever come out of any debt as great. Do your research and then tell me if the system and leaders are not wicked
His father was American and he lived all of his lifetime believing he was a US citizen. Why would he question it? Perhaps his parents weren’t aware of the technicalities of his citizenship status either. Maybe the father assumed since he was American and returning to America to live permanently, that was enough. He lived as an American, he paid taxes, he is an American!!! They should just give him his citizenship which he certainly has earned. They want to give away citizenships to illegal immigrants that are willing to serve in us military but they won’t give this man a citizenship? Unbelievable!!!!!
I agree with you. However, he knows he was born in Canada and he has a Canadian passport. It’s strange that it never once occurred to him in his adult life that he doesn’t have a Green Card or American Passport.
Illegal is illegal. He illegally voted for harsh immigrations laws so he should be subjected to them. He should be charged with voter fraud, serve his sentence then be deported after release. Law and order for thee, but not the GOP!
His father never took him to a US embassy in Canada to register his birth to a US citizen or never filed a petition for him to become a US permanent resident. That is why he is in this dilemma. Knowledge, process and procedures are very important when a child is born abroad in order to obtain US citizenship.
@@xwarped83how was he to work on his immigration status issue if he didn’t even know he had an issue. It was reasonable for him to assume his citizenship was secured. His father American, served in the marines, had a social security card etc.
@@plmburke23 Ask him, he had his whole life to figure that out. Having and American father doesn’t automatically make you a citizen. Joining the marines doesn’t make you a citizen either, he also did not serve in the marines. He was going to join but he got another job. Social security cards are not only given to citizens. The point is, this isn’t America’s fault.
Anyone that serves in the United States military automatically gets service and ship the problem is he did not serve in the military at all his father did there doesn’t make him a US citizen if he would’ve joined the Marines and served he would’ve got his citizenship
@@Fernando5455Jr Im sure senator Cruz of Texas would love to help him because they have exactly same situation. I'm not sure he could use other state federal officials
@@edwinodus Realistically, Only those two government offices, I used to intern for a house of representative member, problem is we can’t force immigration to change their mind, that would definitely be more legal in nature, or to see if any mistakes were made.
@@FreeAmerica1788 this is an immigration office issue. As someone who knows a congressman he tells me that the worst government administration is the immigration office because they are always hiding behind some BS rule to hide accountability.
Some rules can sometimes sound stupid. He was American enough for you to collect his taxes but after residing in the US for over 60yrs and served the country, he isn't a legal resident enough to collect benefits.... Someone please make it make sense 😓
working exacly as intended there are many imigrants that spend there entire life in the US and get deported to a country they don't even speak the language of because we don't care about the taxes they payed for décades we just don't like how they look
At least the taxes part makes sense. If you live and work here, you pay taxes here. Doesn’t matter if you’re a citizen or not. After all, you are still using the roads, police, etc. that taxes pay for.
Americas a Ponzi scheme that primarily benefits its native born whites, descendants of prisoners and slave owners that wanted more power than England would give them… Makes sense to you yet?
Oh so now since it’s not a Hispanic y’all are sympathetic. My father came to this country from Mexico when he was 17 he lived here for 40 years. He had his drivers license and social and even paid his taxes and bills. Just for him to get deported in 2017 when he applied for a better paying job. We’re was all this sympathy then?
He's not unique snowflake. There are hundred thousands of dreamers who lived here for 30+ years and paid into social security but won't be able to benefit from it. if he truly believe in his ideals then he should deport himself to canada
@@xwarped83Are you actually defending the government in this instance? The man’s been a functioning citizen for 60 years, the government had enough information on him to decide he could pay taxes buy a home and work but as soon as he tries to get his social security benefits he’s not a citizen? You’d have to be an idiot to think that’s his fault.
@@enlargedquack I take it that you don’t live in the US. Am I correct? He may have been “functioning” but he’s not a citizen. The government is not going to update your immigration status unless the individual starts the process. Taxes are collected from everyone that works, citizen or not. Benefits are paid out to those with citizenship or permanent residency. Yes, this is his fault because he did not apply to correct his immigration status. The only idiot here is you since you’re commenting on a subject that you clearly have no idea how it works. Hopefully you learned something today.
His parents dropped the ball. They should be the ones who get the immigration petitions filed for this man when he was a child. I had to do this for my daughter, who was born overseas and moved back here when she was 11 months old. She had her documents filed with USCIS and she was naturalized when she was 19.
I kept waiting to read what should have been done, by his parents, when he was born. They just assumed he was American without checking ? He came from Canada with a Canadian and an American parent right? He was not born in the US, was he ? Then why didn't his parents check his legal status?
That's what happened. His dad didn't file for his Consular Report of Birth Abroad at the local US consulate and formalize his _jus sanguinis_ citizenship at birth.
@@user-st6nt4ou6fhow would they have known they had to? Most countries don’t have all these requirements that the US does; I’ve never lived in Canada and I didn’t have my birth registered as Canadian living abroad or anything, I lived in the US my whole life, but because I meet the criteria that was in place when I was born of my mom having been born or naturalized in Canada; I do not have documentation of me being a citizen, but Canadian law is pretty explicit that I am a citizen now, and would just need to show evidence that my mom is a naturalized citizen to get documentation showing it
There was a similar situation with a black man and his birth certificate. Majority of the comments had zero sympathy for him and blamed him for the problem. He was like 20 years old. This man is 66. Theres no excuse
@@TedBundy1989 ummm no the other dude couldn't collect anything. The vital statistics did not put his name on his birth certificate. He couldn't get a id, he couldn't get a social security card, which didn't allow him to get a job. Your assumption is the exact reason for my original comment.
I wonder did he *never* look at his birth certificate? Which would have made it clear he was born outside the U.S.? And if he did, did he *never* wonder if his American citizenship was in fact secure? And where the hell were his citizenship papers? It sounds as if he was just drifting through those decades "assuming" everything was FINEFINEFINE. And we all know the old saw about "assuming" things.
@@TedBundy1989 how do you know he was collecting welfare? 65% of all welfare is received by whites and the actual welfare queen was a white woman. Somehow your racist white hatred thinks it's a black thing despite the actual facts.
Unfortunately a ton of immigrants pay into the system like him and either get no benefits or very little. And even with the Social Security Administration stealing people's incomes without a guarantee of benefit they still ran it to the ground and the Social Security is going to run out of funds before millennials can retire.
He is literally asking for a handout. Is his whiteness blinding you? Maybe he should pull himself up by his goddam bootstraps and stop whining for handouts like a welfare queen.
He's a criminal illegal alien that cast many illegal votes. As a former cop (or should I say, an illegal police impersonator), he should abide by his favorite catchphrase "ignorance of the law is no excuse"
He was a legal citizen while he worked and paid taxes. Now that he is at retirement age, suddenly he's not legal!? What a joke. Give him ALL his social security that he paid then.
No he wasn’t. He was an “illegal immigrant”. They work, pay taxes, and *don’t* get social security. Isn’t the normal line that he should blame his parents for not doing it the right way?
@jaycol21 Here's the problem. Our government labeled him as LEGAL while he attended school, drove a car, went to work, paid taxes, flew airplanes.... He paid into Social Security because they said he was legal while he was paying into it. Now they owe him a REFUND!!! They want to say all these years later "whoops! Turns out you're not legal after all" .... okay, cool. Then give the man a REFUND on his social security!
@@jaycol21His parents made a ‘mistake’? His father was born in U.S soil and they moved back to the U.S when the once a little boy was only 2 years old. He lived most of his life in the U.S, and on top of that, the government *labeled* him a U.S citizen….that is until he asked for his retirement funds. Then the government conveniently decided to trace back his steps and came to the conclusion that they can’t determine whether or not his father lived in the U.S for 10 years before having the baby abroad??? He was given a social security card, voter’s registration card, was approved to serve in the Marines and worked for the state police, yet according to you it’s his and his family’s fault? What a joke. But ‘sure’, it’s totally the parents’ fault. The government has *nOtHiNg* to do with it. At all.
Now let's talk about the 580k law abiding DACA recipients who pay taxes, serve the military and will never receive these benifits either or atleast a path to permanent legal status.
If you are in the military and not a citizen its quite easy to do the paperwork and become one, the chain of command even goes to bat for you and helps you out. I helped many do the paperwork while I was in.
@@GoonyMclinux Hopefully this man can take advantage of this benifit and enjoy his retirement. I hear it can be a long process and every year is counts when you're in your retirement age. Hopefully the voting stuff doesn't mess up his process either.
Yeah bud that is what happens to illegals all the time, they get an ITIN and pay taxes, social security medicare all that stuff and sometimes they won't ever see a social security check.
@@captainmorgan2307 greedy would be wanting all illegals gone regardless of context but then wanting his money even after finding out he himself is illegal…and be wants people to see his context. What a putz.
Same thing happened to a woman here in Canada. She is 30 something years old and they just told her that when her mom gave birth to her she wasn’t a Canadian citizen yet and she gave birth in Jamaica. I just don’t understand how can let someone live in your country, works there, they pay their taxes and everything just to turn around and tell them they aren’t citizens? Crazy.
It’s not as if they check. You don’t get someone to check your driving skills every year to check if you really deserve your drivers license. No one goes around checking if everyone’s stack of varied legal papers are what they expect. It’s too much work.
@@yucol5661 but wouldn't a non citizen be on some type of temporary work visa. With a social security card that says not eligible for work. Those visas expire.
Back in the '50s and the '60s it was very easy for Canadians to come to the US without showing any proof of citizenship. Social security cards can be easily fraudulently manufactured and hand it out like candy. Social security administration has no record of his number ever being in their system nor does the US immigration have any information of his status. But what is true at the moment is he is an illegal living in the United States, voted unknowingly or knowingly in American elections. That is a federal offense, voter fraud.
This also happened to my father who is Ukrainian came here when he was four years old owned businesses fought in the war served this country paid all of his taxes everything and then when it came down to getting his Social Security, he said he was not a citizen
That is crazy and absolutely not cool. You served our country and he protected his fellow citizens. He paid the insurance and he should get back. I hope it gets resolved in his favor
According to news, he never actually served, he was just approved. Everybody who works in the US pays for social security… citizen or not so he’s not entitled to anything.
he should get expedited citizenship because hes white & Canadian? There are people with identical cases that pay their taxes, and serve their country but theyre non white and they still have to go to the decades long process of getting a citizenship. He could get in the back of the line.
This is how any Latino worker feels after spending their entire lives serving a country that never recognizes them as equal and doesn’t even offer them social security, but it’s fun how he gets so much support from other Americans. Maybe because he’s yt?
Did you think immigrants don’t pay taxes? Even students pay taxes. Even people with absolutely no papers with jobs have to pay taxes or risk getting slapped with them when they fix their immigration status. Such a big assumption to think that’s how taxes work. Plus, everyone pays sales taxes.
@@JoesKnocking If temporary workers meet the requirements they become entitled to benefits. They have to work and pay taxes for 40 quarters before they are eligible to the minimum benefits.
I've said it a million times, everyone wins but the American tax payer. How much money is spent on foreign aid while taxpayers struggle to pay their bills.
Hey he's not an American citizen he didn't do the process didn't go through the right paperwork he needs to do it right. I just don't feel one bit sorry for him.
@@angelainamarie9656so the government treated him like a US citizen in every way his entire life including by taking his money regularly for over half a century. Why would he have any reason to believe he WASNT a US citizen? Have some common sense, here.
You don't have to be a citizen to collect social security anyway. You don't even have to live in the US to collect. This is all ridiculous and they better be required to pay this man's legal fees and any other costs he incurs fighting this nonsense. His case should be considered under laws at the time he moved to US, not current laws also.
You don't have to be a u.s citizen to collect social security, when you pay into it legally. You have to be here legally. In his case he counted as an illegal immigrant that's why he can't get it. Funny thing he might be an anti immigrant while he's an illegal himself. All his mom and dad had to do was report his birth to the u.s consulate in Canada. He would have get a u.s birth certificate after DNA prove that was his child.
@@je4350 you can collect it if you have legal residency/a immigrant visa so you don't actually have to be a US citizen you just have to be legal in the US. Also you can live outside of the US and still receive it cause it's retirement money so you can move to mexico permanently and still get it.
@@je4350 I literally responded to your comment saying only US citizens could collect the retirement money and I just pointed out that's not true you just have to be legal in the US as in allowed to be in the US
They used to be so Lucy Goosy about issuing social security cards & DL. My mom decided to change her name one day & they just puylt it on her SS card & DL for her! Later when it came time to get Social Security security, it became a problem. I had to take her to court to get her name legally changed to match her documents. I'm sure they'll get it straightened out for this guy eventually but what a pain!
@@dickiewongtkno which is the problem. The whole thing with a SS number is that it originally serves one purpose and that's what the man in the video is fighting for. (I have to double check on stuff, but you will get the idea) Because of the Great depression and because of how the US wanted to avoid something like that happening again in the future they decided to collect money from people and then just give it to them later. Which is why at the beginning SSN were not that specific and were even in numerical order. There was a point in time that you could figure out what state someone was born in based of their SSN. There is a whole complicated history with it. Now comes the part that you are asking for. And that's that no there is no central way to find out who everyone is in the US. Thats why your SSN has become such an important thing to find out who you are. Even though that's not the point of the SSN, this has to do with who in the US you don't have a national ID, but rather you have a state ID and how do you get a state ID? You get it with a SSN, I believe that there is other stuff so not every state requires a SSN I think? Part of this is because supposedly the US thinks it's a bad idea to be able to track people individually or something of the sort. It's just a real nightmare That likely didn't answer your question at all but you can look up videos about the history of SSN and some of the stuff I just said will be mentioned in those videos.
I can do you one better. My dad was home birth in the US in the 1930. Back then you don't even need to register it and he had no birth certificate from the state, only with the detail (like photo and the name and the registration of the midwive etc), so when it come time to register his birth, they can't remember the day he was born, only the month and a year, and he was given a birth certificate (IIRC in the 60s) with only a month and a year and it also appear in his passport without the day. And then in early 00s after 9/11, the government send him a letter asking him to declare his birthday and they change his birthday by deed poll and they just randomly gave him March 31 as his birthday...
In most states, you can just start using another name any time you want, and that becomes your name. Having a legal name change document makes things a lot easier though. Otherwise you'll have to prove you're that person over and over, and convince people over and over that changing your name through use is a thing. I used a shortened version of my first name for college, but legally changed it to that before graduating to avoid any problems.
@@Ben10Arg He came here with his parents when he was age two. i am sure at that time it was not as stringent as it is now. especially for people crossing over from Canada.
@@Ben10Argof all the people I would support to deport- this man is NOT one of them. He paid decades of taxes and has only known his life as an American. So therefore he’s completely entitled to being here as he pleases.
It’s unfair? It’s also against the law. So you want some bureaucrats somewhere to violate the law to help this guy out they should get fired and prosecuted because this guy’s father screwed up.
@@Deborahwillnawskoikoi Non citizens still pay social security taxes each paycheck. To give him his money back, they will also have to give back all the money of other non-citizens who paid taxes. They also give social security numbers to non citizens. He is basically an immigrant who thought he was a citizen unfortunately.
He just needs to get his father's birth certificate and school records. That's more than enough. If he can figure which county his dad went to school in New York along with his dad's birth certificate then it should be enough. His Canadian birth certificate should show his father's name. It just takes time. His father made a big mistake.
😂 they messed up. He is a Citizen by birth. His father was born in the USA. He needs his father’s birth certificate and that should suffice. Even if he were born in China he is still a US citizen because of his father being a US citizen. Doesn’t matter were you were born only that your parents or one of them were born in the USA
Millions of people who fall under certain immigration categories are allowed to stay in the country, work, drive, pay a taxes and social security, however, they cannot collect social security benefits. Millions of undocumented immigrants also pay into the system and will never collect a penny they have paid to Social Security.
It's his father's fault, he should have had registered his son at the US embassy in Canada proving he had lived in the USA at least for 10 years previous to his son birth! The embassy would had given him a CONSULAR REPORT OF BIRTH ABROAD! I know that because I just had 2 daughter, one in Honduras and one in Brazil, I showed up to the embassy with my school records, my tax returns, sss and my ENTRY and exit records from border patrol!
no see that would shift blame to the entitled foreigners highlighting this is a problem for decades of them lying to their kids for about their legal status and not the US being mean for no reason
He doesnt need to prove his father was a resident for ten years prior to his birth. Citizenship always passes to one generation. His father’s birth in NY is all he needs. It would be different if his father was born outside the USA
No, not different, citizenship don't have different ranks like that, the only exception being running for US presidency! I don't know about back in his father's day if it was a thing, but nowadays, if you're ALDREADY a citizen, NATURAL or NATURALIZED citizen, then your BABY born outside of the US AFTER citizenship acquisition is AUTOMATICALLY a CITIZEN! This case is a no brainer, coz his dad was born and raised in the US!
I'd be surprised if the US does not require children born abroad to a US parent to be registered with the US embassy in the country of birth. After all, the US needs to know where all their citizens are so that they can tax them every year regardless of where in the world they live and work.
You are eligible for citizenship at birth if one parent is a us citizen but only if they fill out the necessary paperwork. if they don't till you turn 21 your out of luck. This actually happened to a lot of adopted children.
Wait a minute. If you weren't born here and are asked about your nationality, at some point you realize "Oh shiet, what's the document that states I'm a citizen?" Anyone who has a passport from another country is probably highly aware of the implications of what nationality means. Hasn't been Florida cracking down on immigrants for a while already? He never bothered to apply for the REAL ID? This this BS, he knew it, but got used to get a free pass because of what's obvious. Let's be real 🤨
When the illegal immigrant is brown or black: “they come here, steal my jobs, free load and don’t pay taxes!!!! DEPORT! When the illegal immigrant is white: lol, you guys really think illegal immigrants don’t pay taxes??
How could he not have known? He has a Canadian passport only. In 64 yrs he never traveled out of the US? If he had traveled at least once they would have caught it upon his reentry. Canadian passport, US address and no green card.
By your assumption, he would have never been able to return to the US. The border officer would see the issue instantly. Canadians citizens still need to justify their reason for travelling to the US and length of stay.
@@jmaxim917would of only been a problem the last 20 years. He was probably driving back n forth between the Us and Canada before 9/11 without a passport And just a ID/license.
In the Americas your nationality (mostly) depends on where you were born, which location (jus soli). In Europe your nationality depends on who your parents are (jus sanguinis).
My grandma came to the US from Liverpool on the Megantic when she was 11 months old. Both her parents died drowning after their small boat in the land of a thousands lakes flipped over in a storm in the 20s. I heard she went through a similar thing in the 70s when she found out she wasn't a citizen. Luckily she was able to work it out when my WW II veteran grandfather passed away and she still received his benefits.
@@strangeroamer3219 yes I know and I support a path to citizenship for those children it still doesn’t mean their parents should be allowed to do that….
How the fuck are you paying taxes, enlisting, and have social security numbers if you’re not a citizen? That’s literally impossible with the current system, so I assume either he’s being fucked over or the old system being changed to the current system was because of this stuff.
*He needs one or more of the following:* A Consular Report of Birth Abroad, A Certificate of Citizenship from the USA, A US Passport, or at a minimum a Green Card *The document he has:* A Canadian Passport He must have known this all along. It backfired on him. I'm not buying that he served in the Marines.
During vietnam the paperwork was a bit slipshod i know a guy that was discharged from the navy on a medical and he was pissed so he re-enlisted in the army under a different name. Took them 6 months to figure it out.
He’s a white man, he’ll be aight. 60 years he did EVERYTHING he needed to do with no problem and NO ONE asked him about his legal status nor documents, me on the other hand as a brown person gets asked weekly or biweekly. He has the right complexion for the protection.
Notice how Americans don’t really want illegals deported just some illegals. Just look at the comments. So it’s a race thing more than it’s a principle thing. This case proves it clearly
They don't want non functional civilians. Like people who will not provide benefit for them, a person who works for the USA for 50 years and has don't no harm and even offered service (police and army) it's fine
It's ironic I bet a lot of people who watch this and say "he pays taxes and social security he deserves to be a citizen" probably also support certain fear mongering politicians who call immigrants all sorts of unsavory things and think unauthorized immigrants are dangerous and a strain on our country and economy. At least half of the unauthorized immigrants in the country DO file taxes using ITINs, and in 2022 unauthorized immigrants accounted for $96.7 BILLION dollars in taxes. AND they contribute billions in payroll taxes that go to programs they aren't even allowed to access like Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance. On top of that giving unauthorized immigrants work authorization would actually boost those amounts even more because their wages would be higher. But we all know they'll continue to treat desperate people fleeing their home country in pursuit of a broken American promise as criminals and thieves while of course they're sympathetic to this guy, hmm I wonder why.
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He was american when he was paying, time to collect "No you are not." Sound like a scam to me
Yep...absolutely
ask for free room, food, prepaid debt card, and airfare all the other illegals get it.
Not quite a scam. Non citizens living in the US pay social security taxes. My spouse moved to the US and not a citizen and still have to pay all the same taxes
Someone commented that he has a passport from another country.
This truly shows how screwed up the U.S. really is.
Apply for a refund... All my taxes, please return them.
Yes, absolutely!!
with interest!
You still pay taxes when you’re in the US as a permanent resident and you don’t get retirement😊
It doesn't work like that.
@@jacksalem6472 Permanent Residents do get retirement dumb ass
Either pay him social security or give him all his money back.
No because the silly man lived 60 years using our roads just like you and I pay. Being white does not give him a pass.
with interest compounded daily
He must apply to derived citizenship and then retroactively restore all the benefits he’s entitled to
His father should’ve registered him at American embassy in Canada and made the American passport for him.
Instead, he probably brought him from Canada either with a Canadian passport or birth certificate.
The GOVERNMENT ALREADY SPENT HIS MONEY ON XMAS BONOUSES AND SENT IT TO OTHER COUNTRIES TO HELP THEM INSTEAD
Id much rather have the money than social security. If i invested all the money ive paid into ssi, that ill never get, id be much better off.
Oh no! He became a victim of what he was accusing others. What a POS.
"the rules apply to thee, not to me" 😂
I’d love for someone to be able to dig up some social media posts he posted to see what he said about illegal immigrants who was deported after living here for 30 years with a wife, kids, and no criminal record.
Deport him!
Sounds like the same people you want deported now @@NB_Strikers
Really ? He had a SS card. Paid taxes. Served our country.
Having social security doesn’t make you a citizen, even permanent residents (green card holders) get those.
He’s not the only one in this situation. Plenty of others who serve in the military, pay taxes, and have a SS card are not citizens.
And yet for purposes of Social Security, he’s in an illegal alien
DEPORT!
You're just as confused as the guy in the video...
This is absurd! 60+ years of living on US soil, serving his country and paying taxes, and this is how they repay him? Stupid system….
Equal Law for everyone.
There are hundreds of thousands who actually have lost limbs fighting for the USA and are still not considered eligible to be US citizen. No special favor to him just because he is white.
Back of the line he needs to go, and wait for his turn.
He signed up. He didn’t serve
All by design
He should have checked himself.
...and paying into social security, the thing he is being denied. I am infuriated.
"Welcome to America. The land of Fee"
I like that. Mind if I borrow it?
Ah yes, America is the freest place in the world. Just ask anyone whose never left the country 😅
And home of the Knave.
Land that was stolen you mean.
@@myanimeroom9350miNd iF I BoRroW iT?🤓🤓🤓
His father should have went to the immigration office and fill out paperwork so that his son would have been able to be a US Citizen.
He can do it himself now. It's never too late. Just go to the immigration and get that done. Hell, call lying Ted Cruz how he got his papers changed over to be a US citizen. Hehehe. 😮😅😮😊😮😊😅😮
The America system loves to take your money but doesn't like to give it back.
The American dream is the American scam
Story of the ROWs life concerning these Theives to be honest.
I mean, it’s why they were sent over the Atlantic to begin with…
.....lol name a system, that prefers spending, then making money!
Wrong … it gives to the illegal immigrants.
I live in Canada. Trust me, it ain't just the American system.
Refund this mans paid taxes as a whole. Shame on US!
plus 8% interests like the IRS do when you miss your tax payment.
So you want to give all illegals Social Security tax refunds? Or all of their taxes. Because a lot of them pay if you do contact your representative because there’s no law that allows the government to do that.
This illegal man stole jobs from Americans…no refund for him.
Or deport him so that we don't have to pay for another illegal alien.
@user-otzlixr not sure how it works in the us.
but in my country SS deduct & income tax are separate. if they're also separate in the US, I think it's fair for the man to get his SS benefit?
Sounds like someone found a loophole to not give him money.
One would call that doing your job. Blame the bozos that let him slip through the cracks.
@@zeroturn7091Nah blame the bozos stealing from him now.
“But bureaucracy rules!” is a poor excuse for allowing a government to steal a man’s hard earned retirement.
yes and that someone is getting a performance bonus
@@zeroturn7091he should blame himself.
Or someone found a loophole to not have him deported
I lived in US for 7 years, I had drivers license ane social security, but I wasn't US citizen. Having those does not mean you are a citizen. How he voted for 40 years is beyond me. That says alot about American election results.
rigged is called.
But if you have a social security card and live here paying taxes you should be a citizen.
BS. He’s legal. The border crossers are illegal.
No it doesn’t. You colossal dimwit.
Social Security cards have a number. The numbers will ID if you are Citizen or not. It will also say if you are eligible to work if you are not a citizen. I believe this man is a citizen but the social security has messed up. I had a problem when I was 23 and lost my social security when I got the new one, it said something to the effect , not allowed to work, which was for none USA student studying within the USA. I look at the woman straight in the eye and said, Fix it. You have my military records and my brith certificate on file. she stated, we don't keep those records. I said oh yes you do. Now look. She did and fix it and I had to wait another two weeks for the correct one. I also keep my records with my City Records deportment. That means military, legal status, and will. It's helpful in case my house burns down or destroyed or if someone at social security tries to say otherwise. The city authenticates the paper work. Many people don't do it because records are publics but at the end of the day. I rather have my paperwork authenticated and if I ever need something. I can get a legal copy.
If he were Mexican I wonder if people would still feel sympathy.
That's what Im saying
Probably not unless one of his parents is american
I think people still would. He gave his everything to the US.
Lol, I would like to hope so.
I wonder what the Native Americans think about this 😂
“He even voted?” Y’all hear that?!?!?
Illegally it seems.
Illegal immigrant and illegal voting. Why is he not deported yet?
@@xwarped83 He didn't know that at the time.
Murika
@@Stephie2007ignorance of the law is no excuse. He's committed dozens of Acts of voting fraud.
This is a real slap in the face and an insult to the uniforms he wore in service to the US.
He's just another immigrant, get him back to his country 😂😂
He wore it with fraudulent documents. We are not looking at this stuff on an individual case by case. If you are here illegally, you gotta go
@@Brandon-qr2orLike how you're here illegally after committing genocide on the natives? Sounds like trespassing, battery, felony theft, grand larsony, 1st degree murder, false imprisonment, etc.
@@Brandon-qr2or that "illegal" vet as you call him, is more American than you will ever be.
He got caught 😂
So, he's been voting, joined the military, paid his taxes and now it's an issue. Really? He should be given a total refund for all the taxes he has paid, that's terrible.
So if you aren’t a citizen of America you don’t pay taxes to America. But he did. I totally agree with you. In the eyes of the government/tax department, he wasn’t required to pay American tax as they say he’s not American, but he did pay tax - so refund him the money he wasn’t supposed to pay - simple.
@@bernadettelanders7306 If you work in the US, you have to pay tax there even if you are not a citizen.
@@peterc.1618
Yup. Heard that. Also heard, must find interviews, or u can - if you are American and move here to Australia you still have to pay tax in America as well as here.i think it’s in any country they move to, not sure, must watch it again. Poor Americans were shocked when they found out. I did a quick google.
*All U.S. citizens, regardless of other nationalities they may hold, maintain their obligations to the United States, including the requirement to file annual tax returns.
and he must be locked up for voting illegally. We want all illegal immigrants out of this country.
He never served tho. He signed up, but nothing came from it 😂🤷🏻♂️
They took your money. If they won't consider you a "citizen", take them to court for a REFUND!!!
Yeah Right!!
Taking us immigritation to court doesn't hurt their pockets sadly. They get no penalties.
You don’t have to be a citizen to pay taxes.
@xwarped83 he paid Ss and retirement fund also. Not just taxes
@@chuongnguyen5068 you also don’t have to be a citizen to pay into those things. You can get a SS number as a permanent resident. As far as a retirement fund, that could be thru his employer, he can collect that but can’t collect SS until he fixes his immigration status. Any other bright ideas?
If his dad was American, why would he have to prove his dad lived in the US for 10 years before he was born? I don't get it
Technically, you only qualify for citizenship by descent if one parent lived in the country for a certain period, even if the parent is a citizen. They seem to be operating under the old law, given the 10-year requirement. However, the current physical presence requirements are as follows:
- The parent has been physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for at least 5 years.
- The parent met this physical presence requirement for at least 2 years after reaching 14 years of age.
@@XxMobileWizXxbut he said his father was born and raised in New York.
@@XxMobileWizXx Wasn't aware of these. Are these new? I'm a dual citizen, so for me this would mean if I have a kid after living abroad - even IF that kid were born in the USA - the kid will not receive US citizenship?
@@Longknife Yes your child would be a citizen because anyone born in the borders of the USA gets citizenship at birth even if the parents are in the country illegally. What I was saying is for children born abroad outside the USA to an American parent.
It's because birthright citizenship is only enshrined in the Constitution for those born on American soil. Those born overseas who may become citizens at birth through a parent, receive citizenship through Acts of Congress, not through the Constitution. At the time he was born, the law that Congress had passed, stated that not only did a parent have to be an American citizen, but they had to have had certain residency requirements in the US.
This would have prevented for instance, someone who was born in the United States (and so had birthright Constitutional citizenship), but then who's family moved to a foreign country (say England) when they were young (say 3 years old) and they spent the rest of their lives in England, that person who was born in the US, had US citizenship, but spent the rest of their lives in England, would not be able to pass their American citizenship to their own children because they didn't have enough years living in America despite being a US citizen.
It seems to be an universal thing that whenever your money is coming out of your pocket, you have zero problems anywhere in the world, but when is time to get paid, there’s always an issue everywhere… Amazing…
IRS takes money out of your account fast, when it’s time to get your refund it takes months.
It does happen everywhere.
@@willian23462 especially if you are an illegal alien
Carlos Jaime Torres fought in Vietnam but got deported. He returned home in a box.
You don't need to be a US citizen to collect Social Security benefits, but you must be a legal resident.
But you can be undocumented and still have to pay Social Security taxes-even though you are ineligible to collect benefits.
That is a complete lie. Illegal immigrants get no social security benefits but still have to pay all the taxes US citizens have to pay, being a legal resident also doesn’t allow you to get benefits you must be a citizen or you get nothing from the federal government.
😂so he’s not even a permanent resident?
You also have to have paid into it. You don’t get to just be like “Hello, I’m a recovering crackhead and this is my r-tarded sister I take care of. I’d like some welfare please” and just get it.
His father is a US Citizen. Therefore he is US citizen by one of the parents.
How many Latino adults are in his same shoes but are being sent to countries they've never stepped foot in since being infants?
Potatoes and gold bar comparison - your Latinos are not American at birth, this dude is
Sadly true. Why are we spending money and time on this old man when theres tens of millions of Spanish speaking ignorant low skilled illegals
Right!? This man should be lucky he’s not getting deported.
Ahhh yes, first comment I see bringing race into this. Why don’t you go actually do a research paper on what you’re saying and then show me and maybe I’ll take your comment seriously.
The only reason he hasn’t been deported is bc of his color
How was he not legal citizen if he voted? And pay taxes
Sounds like he’s been getting the benefit of the doubt his whole life (likely due to skin tone, if we’re being honest).
Foreigners don’t need to pay taxes?
His father was an American. That automatically makes him a U.S. citizen.
@@tiffanylamp100 That logic wasn't acceptable for Barrack Obama. What is the difference?
@@tiffanylamp100 specific paperwork has to be filed; a Consular Report of Birth Abroad, within 300 days of the birth, I believe. It's not automatic. There are other requirements involved, including, as mentioned in the video, that the parent with citizenship has to reside in the US or it's territories for a specific period of time prior to taking residence in another country.
Now imagine his last name is Gonzales
Lol hahahahaha,
Regardless of whether he’s a citizen or not, he’s still eligible for those benefits
Tell that to illegal migrants who paid SS and can’t get it.
No he's not because you say so? He's already broken the biggest law being here illegally. He's not getting a pass just because he's white. It's his problem he thought he was legal not anybody else's. He needs to move on and leave.
Only U.S. citizen's can get social security. You can google it.
He's not actually eligible because you need to be a legal resident to collect social security. That's the whole issue.
@@jared9643 that is not true. It seems like he may be Canadian. There is a treaty in place. Even when he moves back to Canada, he can collect Social Security if he has enough credits which he seems to have.
This is outrageous. They issued him all his documents and let him work until he was an old man then gives him the middle finger. Can’t say I’m surprised. This system is so wicked and the people in charge are worse. Imagine how they treated the native peoples and the slaves that they brought here for hundreds of years before they were even considered humans. Not to mention how they neglect our veterans. Anyway social security will run out of money in 10 years so they will scrape wherever to try and save it.
You realize the people who processed his social security number 50+ years ago are not even there anymore, right? This is not because of people in the government being wicked or evil. It's just a system that needs fixing through legislation in a humane and integral way.
Just make sure you’re eligible to retire within in the next 10 years because SS is slated to run out of funds after that we are all going to end up like the old man in this story. That’s not a probability that is facts. Do your readers, the US is 35 trillion dollars in debt and it will take 5 generations to pay that back. There has never been a civilization since the beginning of time that has ever come out of any debt as great. Do your research and then tell me if the system and leaders are not wicked
His father was American and he lived all of his lifetime believing he was a US citizen. Why would he question it? Perhaps his parents weren’t aware of the technicalities of his citizenship status either. Maybe the father assumed since he was American and returning to America to live permanently, that was enough. He lived as an American, he paid taxes, he is an American!!! They should just give him his citizenship which he certainly has earned. They want to give away citizenships to illegal immigrants that are willing to serve in us military but they won’t give this man a citizenship? Unbelievable!!!!!
I agree with you. However, he knows he was born in Canada and he has a Canadian passport. It’s strange that it never once occurred to him in his adult life that he doesn’t have a Green Card or American Passport.
Nothing personal, but he is an illegal immigrant.
That's that crooked system.
They are insane
Illegal is illegal. He illegally voted for harsh immigrations laws so he should be subjected to them.
He should be charged with voter fraud, serve his sentence then be deported after release.
Law and order for thee, but not the GOP!
His father never took him to a US embassy in Canada to register his birth to a US citizen or never filed a petition for him to become a US permanent resident. That is why he is in this dilemma. Knowledge, process and procedures are very important when a child is born abroad in order to obtain US citizenship.
detain & deport
That is terrible. Shame on you America!
Maybe he should have taken care of his immigration status on his own. Why is that America’s fault?
America, never at any time " the land of opportunities "
@@xwarped83how was he to work on his immigration status issue if he didn’t even know he had an issue. It was reasonable for him to assume his citizenship was secured. His father American, served in the marines, had a social security card etc.
@@plmburke23 Ask him, he had his whole life to figure that out. Having and American father doesn’t automatically make you a citizen. Joining the marines doesn’t make you a citizen either, he also did not serve in the marines. He was going to join but he got another job. Social security cards are not only given to citizens.
The point is, this isn’t America’s fault.
Anyone that serves in the United States military automatically gets service and ship the problem is he did not serve in the military at all his father did there doesn’t make him a US citizen if he would’ve joined the Marines and served he would’ve got his citizenship
This is not a senate issue. You need to contact your local congressman
Both the House representatives and the US Senate can aid their constituents, as long as it is a federal issue, which is clearly is
@@Fernando5455Jr Im sure senator Cruz of Texas would love to help him because they have exactly same situation. I'm not sure he could use other state federal officials
@@edwinodus Realistically, Only those two government offices, I used to intern for a house of representative member, problem is we can’t force immigration to change their mind, that would definitely be more legal in nature, or to see if any mistakes were made.
@@edwinodus its Florida fu
@@FreeAmerica1788 this is an immigration office issue. As someone who knows a congressman he tells me that the worst government administration is the immigration office because they are always hiding behind some BS rule to hide accountability.
Some rules can sometimes sound stupid. He was American enough for you to collect his taxes but after residing in the US for over 60yrs and served the country, he isn't a legal resident enough to collect benefits.... Someone please make it make sense 😓
working exacly as intended there are many imigrants that spend there entire life in the US and get deported to a country they don't even speak the language of because we don't care about the taxes they payed for décades we just don't like how they look
At least the taxes part makes sense. If you live and work here, you pay taxes here. Doesn’t matter if you’re a citizen or not. After all, you are still using the roads, police, etc. that taxes pay for.
Americas a Ponzi scheme that primarily benefits its native born whites, descendants of prisoners and slave owners that wanted more power than England would give them…
Makes sense to you yet?
Thats bullshit he literally paying for those benefits for years and not just that he serve as police and military @@Sashazur
Meanwhile Paco jumps the fence and gets all your tax dollars
Oh so now since it’s not a Hispanic y’all are sympathetic. My father came to this country from Mexico when he was 17 he lived here for 40 years. He had his drivers license and social and even paid his taxes and bills. Just for him to get deported in 2017 when he applied for a better paying job. We’re was all this sympathy then?
@@Dannyboi-re7vb I think you just answer your own question
@@NB_Strikers yeah, people say skin color isnt a deciding factor anymore but it is. white makes right and brown makes you frown
That's stupid, he's got evidence that he's been there for 60 years and still doesn't get anything? That's a flat out scam.
Nope, it isn’t. He should have taken care of his immigration status and he would not have a problem now.
He's not unique snowflake. There are hundred thousands of dreamers who lived here for 30+ years and paid into social security but won't be able to benefit from it. if he truly believe in his ideals then he should deport himself to canada
@@xwarped83Are you actually defending the government in this instance? The man’s been a functioning citizen for 60 years, the government had enough information on him to decide he could pay taxes buy a home and work but as soon as he tries to get his social security benefits he’s not a citizen? You’d have to be an idiot to think that’s his fault.
The US is a massive scam.
@@enlargedquack I take it that you don’t live in the US. Am I correct?
He may have been “functioning” but he’s not a citizen. The government is not going to update your immigration status unless the individual starts the process. Taxes are collected from everyone that works, citizen or not. Benefits are paid out to those with citizenship or permanent residency. Yes, this is his fault because he did not apply to correct his immigration status. The only idiot here is you since you’re commenting on a subject that you clearly have no idea how it works. Hopefully you learned something today.
His parents dropped the ball. They should be the ones who get the immigration petitions filed for this man when he was a child. I had to do this for my daughter, who was born overseas and moved back here when she was 11 months old. She had her documents filed with USCIS and she was naturalized when she was 19.
When our children were born abroad we received a paper that says US Citizen born abroad very clearly on the birth certificate.
I kept waiting to read what should have been done, by his parents, when he was born. They just assumed he was American without checking ? He came from Canada with a Canadian and an American parent right? He was not born in the US, was he ? Then why didn't his parents check his legal status?
@beckypetersen2680 you reported the birth to the US embassy or consulate? I bet his parents did not.
That's what happened. His dad didn't file for his Consular Report of Birth Abroad at the local US consulate and formalize his _jus sanguinis_ citizenship at birth.
@@user-st6nt4ou6fhow would they have known they had to? Most countries don’t have all these requirements that the US does; I’ve never lived in Canada and I didn’t have my birth registered as Canadian living abroad or anything, I lived in the US my whole life, but because I meet the criteria that was in place when I was born of my mom having been born or naturalized in Canada; I do not have documentation of me being a citizen, but Canadian law is pretty explicit that I am a citizen now, and would just need to show evidence that my mom is a naturalized citizen to get documentation showing it
Usa went from American Dream to American Nightmare literally
It's def not perfect, but it is still a desired destination for many.
It always was but the internet has exposed the great Satan for what it truly is.
Look through American history you’ll see it has been like this since day one.
No people don’t read the laws of the land and think they can do whatever they want
@@RuthLinares-z9w no more
The Law is the Law. He supported it until his turn came.
There was a similar situation with a black man and his birth certificate. Majority of the comments had zero sympathy for him and blamed him for the problem. He was like 20 years old. This man is 66. Theres no excuse
@@TedBundy1989 ummm no the other dude couldn't collect anything. The vital statistics did not put his name on his birth certificate. He couldn't get a id, he couldn't get a social security card, which didn't allow him to get a job. Your assumption is the exact reason for my original comment.
@@ifyjoanna Would you expect any better logic or grasp of facts from somebody with that for a screen name? 😆
I wonder did he *never* look at his birth certificate? Which would have made it clear he was born outside the U.S.? And if he did, did he *never* wonder if his American citizenship was in fact secure? And where the hell were his citizenship papers? It sounds as if he was just drifting through those decades "assuming" everything was FINEFINEFINE. And we all know the old saw about "assuming" things.
You know everything is about what race you are in merkkka. Yet most deny their reality
@@TedBundy1989 how do you know he was collecting welfare? 65% of all welfare is received by whites and the actual welfare queen was a white woman. Somehow your racist white hatred thinks it's a black thing despite the actual facts.
The problem is he won't qualify for Canadian pension plan because he never contributed to it.
Sadly...
But he'll have access to free healthcare
@@sputteringsputnik fair enough...
@@sputteringsputnikFree healthcare ( that they use excuses to not give you, and it’s crap ) and high taxes 😃
He'll get OAS (Old Age Security) which is very little to live on.
He is not asking for a hand out. He should get what he paid for.
Unfortunately a ton of immigrants pay into the system like him and either get no benefits or very little. And even with the Social Security Administration stealing people's incomes without a guarantee of benefit they still ran it to the ground and the Social Security is going to run out of funds before millennials can retire.
He is literally asking for a handout. Is his whiteness blinding you? Maybe he should pull himself up by his goddam bootstraps and stop whining for handouts like a welfare queen.
Na he’s illegal
He should get all of his money back.
He's a criminal illegal alien that cast many illegal votes. As a former cop (or should I say, an illegal police impersonator), he should abide by his favorite catchphrase "ignorance of the law is no excuse"
That’s so funny 😭😭 nah I don’t feel bad at ALL. You voted for all this stuff.
How sad 😔... I hope he gets his money and this Straightened out.
Crossing the border is way to fix what he done
Detain deport
He was a legal citizen while he worked and paid taxes. Now that he is at retirement age, suddenly he's not legal!? What a joke. Give him ALL his social security that he paid then.
well obviously he wasn't or this wouldn't have been an issue^^
ilégal imigrants don't get to complain where there taxes go
No he wasn’t. He was an “illegal immigrant”. They work, pay taxes, and *don’t* get social security.
Isn’t the normal line that he should blame his parents for not doing it the right way?
@jaycol21 Here's the problem. Our government labeled him as LEGAL while he attended school, drove a car, went to work, paid taxes, flew airplanes.... He paid into Social Security because they said he was legal while he was paying into it. Now they owe him a REFUND!!! They want to say all these years later "whoops! Turns out you're not legal after all" .... okay, cool. Then give the man a REFUND on his social security!
One day the ROW will have to do something about this joke of a country
@@jaycol21His parents made a ‘mistake’? His father was born in U.S soil and they moved back to the U.S when the once a little boy was only 2 years old. He lived most of his life in the U.S, and on top of that, the government *labeled* him a U.S citizen….that is until he asked for his retirement funds. Then the government conveniently decided to trace back his steps and came to the conclusion that they can’t determine whether or not his father lived in the U.S for 10 years before having the baby abroad???
He was given a social security card, voter’s registration card, was approved to serve in the Marines and worked for the state police, yet according to you it’s his and his family’s fault? What a joke.
But ‘sure’, it’s totally the parents’ fault. The government has *nOtHiNg* to do with it. At all.
Now let's talk about the 580k law abiding DACA recipients who pay taxes, serve the military and will never receive these benifits either or atleast a path to permanent legal status.
If you are in the military and not a citizen its quite easy to do the paperwork and become one, the chain of command even goes to bat for you and helps you out. I helped many do the paperwork while I was in.
@@GoonyMclinux Hopefully this man can take advantage of this benifit and enjoy his retirement. I hear it can be a long process and every year is counts when you're in your retirement age. Hopefully the voting stuff doesn't mess up his process either.
Law abiding law breakers?
@@mike4402 Like the guy in the video? Yeah, I guess so lol
@@mike4402 You don't get DACA status if you have a criminal background, you waste of space.
They were more than willing to accept money from him without being a citizen but when he asked for money back they became greedy.
Yeah bud that is what happens to illegals all the time, they get an ITIN and pay taxes, social security medicare all that stuff and sometimes they won't ever see a social security check.
"sometimes they won't ever see a social security check" they shouldn't lol @@Alan-wj5zc
Yup just like all illegals. Funny how you all care when it’s a light skinned person.
@@captainmorgan2307 greedy would be wanting all illegals gone regardless of context but then wanting his money even after finding out he himself is illegal…and be wants people to see his context. What a putz.
damn canadians voting in our elections.
I think this probably is mostly only able to happen with people old enough that they could have that history of stuff without it being checked
Same thing happened to a woman here in Canada. She is 30 something years old and they just told her that when her mom gave birth to her she wasn’t a Canadian citizen yet and she gave birth in Jamaica. I just don’t understand how can let someone live in your country, works there, they pay their taxes and everything just to turn around and tell them they aren’t citizens? Crazy.
It’s not as if they check. You don’t get someone to check your driving skills every year to check if you really deserve your drivers license. No one goes around checking if everyone’s stack of varied legal papers are what they expect. It’s too much work.
@@yucol5661 but wouldn't a non citizen be on some type of temporary work visa. With a social security card that says not eligible for work. Those visas expire.
It’s evil what nations do to people once they scam them.
you not knowing how things work is what's crazy.
He has a Canadian passport.,. Should have been his first clue
Back in the '50s and the '60s it was very easy for Canadians to come to the US without showing any proof of citizenship. Social security cards can be easily fraudulently manufactured and hand it out like candy. Social security administration has no record of his number ever being in their system nor does the US immigration have any information of his status. But what is true at the moment is he is an illegal living in the United States, voted unknowingly or knowingly in American elections. That is a federal offense, voter fraud.
Exactly. I'm guessing that he never tried to get an American Passport.
@@queentinadoire6931 only US citizen is able to get an American passport. Obviously this guy is not a US citizen.
@@queentinadoire6931 why would you if you're not an American citizen.
Lol
@@xfhnhhgjbvcfgbecause he supposedly thought he was
He better sign up for DACA
Time's up! Time to go back!
This also happened to my father who is Ukrainian came here when he was four years old owned businesses fought in the war served this country paid all of his taxes everything and then when it came down to getting his Social Security, he said he was not a citizen
US Immigration, "Rules? We don't know the rules. We are just making this up as we go."
Too many stupid rules. Must be abolished.
They set up the rules, it’s up to the individual to follow them.
The rules are never followed so why bother learning them.
Just move to a country that doesn’t have them…
@@Qresmaidapa it would save tons of money on a stupid wall. He's no different than a migrant worker that's not a permanent resident.
@@gibbsm Migrant worker is more productive than zombie citizen.
What would be even more funny is if he goes to Canada and they deny him for committing felonies here by voting.
That is crazy and absolutely not cool. You served our country and he protected his fellow citizens. He paid the insurance and he should get back. I hope it gets resolved in his favor
DEPORT!
According to news, he never actually served, he was just approved. Everybody who works in the US pays for social security… citizen or not so he’s not entitled to anything.
At this point let him be a citizen already.
Nope. Deport his ass
He should apply just like everyone else, right?
He needs to apply legally and wait 13 plus years like everyone else
back of the line.
he should get expedited citizenship because hes white & Canadian? There are people with identical cases that pay their taxes, and serve their country but theyre non white and they still have to go to the decades long process of getting a citizenship. He could get in the back of the line.
This is how any Latino worker feels after spending their entire lives serving a country that never recognizes them as equal and doesn’t even offer them social security, but it’s fun how he gets so much support from other Americans. Maybe because he’s yt?
Lying and cheating is rewarded, being honest is punished. But they want to teach us to be honest
He even got a CCW permit from NJ… which is harder to get than a Top Secret clearance!
SSN is not citizenship or green card. It’s just a number to collect you money.
So... a scam.
The entire us is a scam.
@@DownBadDad-iz9mp do you know what "scam" means? none of you that are saying this do.
But the government still took out ss taxes. Incredible.
Yes, if you work in America, you pay SS taxes. Even temporary workers pay SS taxes, that does not make them entitled to SS.
Crazy
They do that to everyone, including illegal immigrants who will never get that money back
Did you think immigrants don’t pay taxes? Even students pay taxes. Even people with absolutely no papers with jobs have to pay taxes or risk getting slapped with them when they fix their immigration status. Such a big assumption to think that’s how taxes work.
Plus, everyone pays sales taxes.
@@JoesKnocking If temporary workers meet the requirements they become entitled to benefits. They have to work and pay taxes for 40 quarters before they are eligible to the minimum benefits.
Why can't he have one of his kids apply for a greencard and after 5 years become citizens know it's long but better than nothing...
He even voted?? Wow
Illegally.
Needs to go to jail.
A crime certainly. Knowingly applied for a voter registration. A fraud.
@@yvonnecortes_ Why? this isnt on purpose lmfao
@@IssaMeZane illegal is illegal. Doesn't matter if you don't know your committing a crime.
I have one question, how did he feel about the Dreamers legal status before this happened to him?
Idk , go ask him
A Trumper's opinion? Hmm ... whatever could that be?
I've said it a million times, everyone wins but the American tax payer. How much money is spent on foreign aid while taxpayers struggle to pay their bills.
Nobody wins concerning the us, it’s a terrorist state.
Billions for war and illegal aliens, nothing for you!
Hey he's not an American citizen he didn't do the process didn't go through the right paperwork he needs to do it right.
I just don't feel one bit sorry for him.
@@angelainamarie9656 Ohh so when he was paying taxes it was okay but when the time came for the govt to pay him back then its a problem?
@@angelainamarie9656so the government treated him like a US citizen in every way his entire life including by taking his money regularly for over half a century. Why would he have any reason to believe he WASNT a US citizen? Have some common sense, here.
By the way , my son served as a Navy-seal; but now homeless.
Anything beginning with “Florida man”, is going to be a screwed up situation. 😂 the cradle of lunacy.
The circumstance is slightly different. He was the lunatic one. The government is.
@@hello855he has a Canadian passport, looks like he is a delusional idiot who should be sent back 😂, the government should keep the money too
You don't have to be a citizen to collect social security anyway. You don't even have to live in the US to collect. This is all ridiculous and they better be required to pay this man's legal fees and any other costs he incurs fighting this nonsense. His case should be considered under laws at the time he moved to US, not current laws also.
@@je4350
They can if they work for 40 quarters which is equal to 10 years
You don't have to be a u.s citizen to collect social security, when you pay into it legally. You have to be here legally. In his case he counted as an illegal immigrant that's why he can't get it. Funny thing he might be an anti immigrant while he's an illegal himself. All his mom and dad had to do was report his birth to the u.s consulate in Canada. He would have get a u.s birth certificate after DNA prove that was his child.
@@je4350 you can collect it if you have legal residency/a immigrant visa so you don't actually have to be a US citizen you just have to be legal in the US. Also you can live outside of the US and still receive it cause it's retirement money so you can move to mexico permanently and still get it.
He didn’t do it legally, end of story.
@@je4350 I literally responded to your comment saying only US citizens could collect the retirement money and I just pointed out that's not true you just have to be legal in the US as in allowed to be in the US
They used to be so Lucy Goosy about issuing social security cards & DL. My mom decided to change her name one day & they just puylt it on her SS card & DL for her! Later when it came time to get Social Security security, it became a problem. I had to take her to court to get her name legally changed to match her documents. I'm sure they'll get it straightened out for this guy eventually but what a pain!
Does the US not have a centralized registry for the personal information of all kind of residents and/or citizen?
@@dickiewongtkno which is the problem. The whole thing with a SS number is that it originally serves one purpose and that's what the man in the video is fighting for. (I have to double check on stuff, but you will get the idea) Because of the Great depression and because of how the US wanted to avoid something like that happening again in the future they decided to collect money from people and then just give it to them later. Which is why at the beginning SSN were not that specific and were even in numerical order. There was a point in time that you could figure out what state someone was born in based of their SSN. There is a whole complicated history with it.
Now comes the part that you are asking for. And that's that no there is no central way to find out who everyone is in the US. Thats why your SSN has become such an important thing to find out who you are. Even though that's not the point of the SSN, this has to do with who in the US you don't have a national ID, but rather you have a state ID and how do you get a state ID? You get it with a SSN, I believe that there is other stuff so not every state requires a SSN I think? Part of this is because supposedly the US thinks it's a bad idea to be able to track people individually or something of the sort.
It's just a real nightmare
That likely didn't answer your question at all but you can look up videos about the history of SSN and some of the stuff I just said will be mentioned in those videos.
I can do you one better. My dad was home birth in the US in the 1930. Back then you don't even need to register it and he had no birth certificate from the state, only with the detail (like photo and the name and the registration of the midwive etc), so when it come time to register his birth, they can't remember the day he was born, only the month and a year, and he was given a birth certificate (IIRC in the 60s) with only a month and a year and it also appear in his passport without the day. And then in early 00s after 9/11, the government send him a letter asking him to declare his birthday and they change his birthday by deed poll and they just randomly gave him March 31 as his birthday...
In most states, you can just start using another name any time you want, and that becomes your name. Having a legal name change document makes things a lot easier though. Otherwise you'll have to prove you're that person over and over, and convince people over and over that changing your name through use is a thing. I used a shortened version of my first name for college, but legally changed it to that before graduating to avoid any problems.
@@dickiewongtk The suggestion of such a centralized registry will send various conspiracy types into fits.
Isn't the governor going to deport him
You're heartless. Let him stay as he has nowhere to go
@@Ben10Arghe paid his taxes... There are illegals here who do nothing
@@Ben10Arg He came here with his parents when he was age two. i am sure at that time it was not as stringent as it is now. especially for people crossing over from Canada.
@randyg4571 I'm sure a lot of Mexicans can say the same thing. A lot of them being born he as well only to be deported.
@@Ben10Argof all the people I would support to deport- this man is NOT one of them. He paid decades of taxes and has only known his life as an American. So therefore he’s completely entitled to being here as he pleases.
They had no problem taking his money but giving it oof
It's not any better even if you are a full US citizen
I don't blame him wanting to leave America
He needs to be deported.
@@Itoshimi for what
So why did no one have a problem with him voting, accquiring ssc, paying taxes, and joining the military? What a joke
He never join the military..
If he did this question would have came up..
His father make a huge mistake and he is paying for that,this is really unfair,he have a legal S.S. number so give to him his money
It’s unfair? It’s also against the law. So you want some bureaucrats somewhere to violate the law to help this guy out they should get fired and prosecuted because this guy’s father screwed up.
You are right, but They need to give him his Money.
@@Deborahwillnawskoikoi Non citizens still pay social security taxes each paycheck. To give him his money back, they will also have to give back all the money of other non-citizens who paid taxes. They also give social security numbers to non citizens. He is basically an immigrant who thought he was a citizen unfortunately.
@@Runescapian0wner I know he works for his Money They need to give him all his money.
He just needs to get his father's birth certificate and school records. That's more than enough. If he can figure which county his dad went to school in New York along with his dad's birth certificate then it should be enough. His Canadian birth certificate should show his father's name. It just takes time. His father made a big mistake.
Just came legaly! .
I think he should ve deported
😂 they messed up. He is a Citizen by birth. His father was born in the USA. He needs his father’s birth certificate and that should suffice. Even if he were born in China he is still a US citizen because of his father being a US citizen. Doesn’t matter were you were born only that your parents or one of them were born in the USA
How do you pay into social security but can’t collect it. Give that man his money
Millions of people who fall under certain immigration categories are allowed to stay in the country, work, drive, pay a taxes and social security, however, they cannot collect social security benefits. Millions of undocumented immigrants also pay into the system and will never collect a penny they have paid to Social Security.
When you’re a sucker immigrant in the nation of bullies.
It's his father's fault, he should have had registered his son at the US embassy in Canada proving he had lived in the USA at least for 10 years previous to his son birth! The embassy would had given him a CONSULAR REPORT OF BIRTH ABROAD! I know that because I just had 2 daughter, one in Honduras and one in Brazil, I showed up to the embassy with my school records, my tax returns, sss and my ENTRY and exit records from border patrol!
It not his fault if he never knew and it only really started to affect him when he turned 60
@@kingj6891 I never said it was his fault, I said it was his FATHER'S fault!
u better go back where you u belong
no see that would shift blame to the entitled foreigners highlighting this is a problem for decades of them lying to their kids for about their legal status and not the US being mean for no reason
@@kingj6891doesn’t matter if it’s his fault or not, illegal is illegal; he should be deported asap.
If he's not a citizen he doesn't need Soc Sec
He doesnt need to prove his father was a resident for ten years prior to his birth. Citizenship always passes to one generation. His father’s birth in NY is all he needs.
It would be different if his father was born outside the USA
No, not different, citizenship don't have different ranks like that, the only exception being running for US presidency! I don't know about back in his father's day if it was a thing, but nowadays, if you're ALDREADY a citizen, NATURAL or NATURALIZED citizen, then your BABY born outside of the US AFTER citizenship acquisition is AUTOMATICALLY a CITIZEN! This case is a no brainer, coz his dad was born and raised in the US!
Not true. Learn the law.
No. Do not ever speak or write another RUclips comment again. I forbid you.
I'd be surprised if the US does not require children born abroad to a US parent to be registered with the US embassy in the country of birth. After all, the US needs to know where all their citizens are so that they can tax them every year regardless of where in the world they live and work.
You are eligible for citizenship at birth if one parent is a us citizen but only if they fill out the necessary paperwork. if they don't till you turn 21 your out of luck. This actually happened to a lot of adopted children.
Wait a minute. If you weren't born here and are asked about your nationality, at some point you realize "Oh shiet, what's the document that states I'm a citizen?" Anyone who has a passport from another country is probably highly aware of the implications of what nationality means. Hasn't been Florida cracking down on immigrants for a while already? He never bothered to apply for the REAL ID? This this BS, he knew it, but got used to get a free pass because of what's obvious. Let's be real 🤨
No it does not make a sense, how he worked for army if he was illegal ?.
you don't have to be a citizen of the US to be in the Army. I served with all kinda green card holders.
Tons of this will come up with Real ID, know few people who are very surprised.
They will always take your money out of your check 😢😢
If he moves to canada he could get his social security payments through the Canadian system. Canada and usa has a reciprocal agreement.
Not in this case since he is not eligible for Social Security payment in US.
I was wondering if there was a system like that. Don't think it applies here, but nice to know.
Its crazy how many people think Immigrants dont pay taxes
All Americans
Undocumented immigrants pay $11.6 billion per year and cost $151 billion.
@@ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy Not all Americans think this way. Just the uneducated ones.
When the illegal immigrant is brown or black: “they come here, steal my jobs, free load and don’t pay taxes!!!! DEPORT!
When the illegal immigrant is white: lol, you guys really think illegal immigrants don’t pay taxes??
How could he not have known? He has a Canadian passport only. In 64 yrs he never traveled out of the US? If he had traveled at least once they would have caught it upon his reentry. Canadian passport, US address and no green card.
Passport wasn't required to cross the border to Canada or Mexico until recently.
You know you trying to make excuses that your own police and voting couldn't do their job if he enlisted for that LOL compared to Canada entry.
By your assumption, he would have never been able to return to the US. The border officer would see the issue instantly. Canadians citizens still need to justify their reason for travelling to the US and length of stay.
@@hello855However, the issue would have been realized then and possibly resolved quickly instead of now in his twilight years.
@@jmaxim917would of only been a problem the last 20 years. He was probably driving back n forth between the Us and Canada before 9/11 without a passport And just a ID/license.
His dad is an American so he is American , problem solved!!!
They literally say that that's not how it works.
In the Americas your nationality (mostly) depends on where you were born, which location (jus soli). In Europe your nationality depends on who your parents are (jus sanguinis).
So was Obama's mother. Didn't stop half the country from insisting he was born in Kenya and thus wasn't American.
Unlike another famous person's father was born in Kenya 😮
CORRECT... and born in New York...
But the government never makes mistakes.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.🤔🤔🤔🤔.
There are more “illegals” just like who have been here for almost a along as him. However, he’s only illegal due to paperwork issues.
so you're for amnesty for undocumented immigrants then? He falls under the "Dreamer" category of immigrant.
Of course they don't make mistakes. This is being done on purpose.
My grandma came to the US from Liverpool on the Megantic when she was 11 months old. Both her parents died drowning after their small boat in the land of a thousands lakes flipped over in a storm in the 20s. I heard she went through a similar thing in the 70s when she found out she wasn't a citizen. Luckily she was able to work it out when my WW II veteran grandfather passed away and she still received his benefits.
Big bureaucracies have very rigid rules. His congressperson should work to get this straightened out.
DEPORT!
oh, now immigration laws and enforcement are too rigid, LOL.
I bet he wants a boarder wall
Even if he does it wouldn’t matter because he’s the son of a citizen, not hopping over the border!
@@jem5812There's a lot of illegal immigrants that were brought here by their parents as children.
@@strangeroamer3219 yes I know and I support a path to citizenship for those children it still doesn’t mean their parents should be allowed to do that….
That's how they plan to pay for social security
I had the same problem brother I found out after highschool trying to join the Air Force
your parents goofed, so now you thinks it's a government conspiracy to fund SS. Wow!
How the fuck are you paying taxes, enlisting, and have social security numbers if you’re not a citizen? That’s literally impossible with the current system, so I assume either he’s being fucked over or the old system being changed to the current system was because of this stuff.
Right Wing Immigration policies at work lol
BY. GO. BACK. TO. CANDA. BYEE. 👊🏽👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽
*He needs one or more of the following:* A Consular Report of Birth Abroad, A Certificate of Citizenship from the USA, A US Passport, or at a minimum a Green Card
*The document he has:* A Canadian Passport
He must have known this all along. It backfired on him. I'm not buying that he served in the Marines.
During vietnam the paperwork was a bit slipshod i know a guy that was discharged from the navy on a medical and he was pissed so he re-enlisted in the army under a different name. Took them 6 months to figure it out.
He’s a white man, he’ll be aight. 60 years he did EVERYTHING he needed to do with no problem and NO ONE asked him about his legal status nor documents, me on the other hand as a brown person gets asked weekly or biweekly. He has the right complexion for the protection.
Notice how Americans don’t really want illegals deported just some illegals. Just look at the comments. So it’s a race thing more than it’s a principle thing. This case proves it clearly
Yes, this.
They don't want non functional civilians. Like people who will not provide benefit for them, a person who works for the USA for 50 years and has don't no harm and even offered service (police and army) it's fine
And look at how they are talking NOW!! This entire thing is nothing but a call for ethnic cleansing.
Give that man his social security! This is nonsense.
Nope. Deport him. I thought you guys hated illegal immigrants?
It's ironic I bet a lot of people who watch this and say "he pays taxes and social security he deserves to be a citizen" probably also support certain fear mongering politicians who call immigrants all sorts of unsavory things and think unauthorized immigrants are dangerous and a strain on our country and economy.
At least half of the unauthorized immigrants in the country DO file taxes using ITINs, and in 2022 unauthorized immigrants accounted for $96.7 BILLION dollars in taxes.
AND they contribute billions in payroll taxes that go to programs they aren't even allowed to access like Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance.
On top of that giving unauthorized immigrants work authorization would actually boost those amounts even more because their wages would be higher.
But we all know they'll continue to treat desperate people fleeing their home country in pursuit of a broken American promise as criminals and thieves while of course they're sympathetic to this guy, hmm I wonder why.