Are You TOO OLD for a Music Career? Here's the REAL ANSWER!
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- Are You TOO OLD for a Music Career? Here's the REAL ANSWER!
Let's cut through the noise. The traditional music industry has changed, and major labels aren't the only path to success. In this video, I break down the truth about age and success, offering practical strategies for a fulfilling music career. It's time to redefine success on your terms. Whether you're 23 or 63, embrace the independent movement, prioritize what matters to you, and let go of unrealistic dreams. Your passion and determination matter more than your age. Subscribe for more insights and let's make your music dreams a reality.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Introduction and the purpose of music videos
00:10 - Is there an ideal age for success in the music industry?
01:10 - The importance of building a fan base and working on music and marketing
02:03 - The shift towards independent artists and the control they have
02:49 - The various ways to make money in the music industry
03:18 - The importance of aligning age with realistic goals and opportunities
03:49 - The example of writing music for others and getting sync placements
04:41 - The need to focus on obtainable opportunities rather than outliers
05:06 - The impact of age on self-doubt and mental obstacles
05:39 - The reasons for pursuing a music career and overcoming discouragement
06:17 - The importance of pouring emotion into music while balancing the business side
Thanks again for watching! :-)
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How long have you been making music and what is your current age?
I'm 29 been doing music since 16/17 but stopped for many years in-between but looking to get serious now. Was abit concerned about age but truly, thanks for giving me the plain truth about the whole situation now, I mean hey I write songs and rap well but I'm gonna just now learn how to play the keyboard and learn music language from scratch for versatility and depth. Thanks brother.
I do gospel music btw and I love almost all genres.
If you have any significant added advice, please let me know.
Since 14. I'm 34.
For 9 years. I'm 36
I started writing songs in my 20s. I took a long break to raise a family. I'm 43! Writing the best songs of my life! The market is wide open for independent artists!!!
I have 36yrs of music experience I am 38 yrs old. One of my first words was probably middle C (my mom is a piano teacher). The guitar I have 26 years. The last five years I have really started pursuing it more then a hobby. I have been making money playing the local scene. Which was the original goal I set a few years back. I am hoping now to set my self apart by becoming better at marketing its slow going but it is getting better. This is one of the reasons I enjoy Adam ivy so much and he is a strait shooter no beating around the bush.
Hello, now I'm 50, and I just started this career last year by releasing my first single on my birthday, August 12, and now my fourth single will be released next October 10, 2023. I had an 18k stream for my second single ANA MOGAB by Mostafa Alabyad. I'm full of energy and motivation regardless of age. Keep positive and believe in yourself. ❤🎉😊
Sir! We share the same birthday on the 12 of August, though am 29 I recorded my first single in 2019 but so far I didn't make a serious earning from my music. I have learned from my mistakes, one day my music will bring bread 🍞 on the table. Keep on doing music sir.
That's great to hear! it is very encouraging to hear that, I'm 57 and will be releasing my first completed music this year and working on creating my own fan base...I tell myself why not? We are our own worst enemies when we adopt these " conventional " attitudes
@punchmobility wish you all the best with your music
Congrats & Happy Early Birthday 🎂 77th🫡📘🛫💯🏃🏿♂️🖤😁
To all the 50 plus folks here....THANK YOU! You see, I've been creating music for a long time and you guys are my INSPIRATION to continue to write, produce and create music. THANK YOU!!!
You can be a songwriter at any age. I’m 39 and I just recently caught my big break. I have a a few remixes of my songs coming out featuring established famous artists. Your never to old to go after your dreams.
This!! ⬆️
That’s awesome congratulations!🎊
@@adamjonesdrummer thanks!
I started learning singing when I was 24 and now 34. I used to dream of signing big labels but I’m content to uploading covers on my RUclips 90 percent DIY except video taking on the year 2022 after procrastinating it for 7 years. Age doesn’t really matter as long as we can do our passion while working full time job. Thank you for great videos as always 😊
I’m 34 and have been “half ass” doing music for 16 years while working boring jobs or studying music. I always just had in my head that I’d ‘’make it” cause I can make good melodies and “beats” without actually finishing or releasing them. But only this week have I posted two freestyles on RUclips. Only now I realise that I’m getting older so I really have to make this happen ASAP and gain a following before I’m too old to be making rap and electro pop bangers. Having goals with specific deadlines is KEY. Even if it’s just to improve music skills or learn some more about marketing. Consistency will see you reach your goals. Don’t waste time chasing labels or a&r people. You have to do it on your own now and then they will come to you. Thank you for your videos Adam!!!
After all that, you still have only 2 freestyles on your chanel? Did you already gave up?
I’m pushing 40 and just getting to the point of knowing how to really produce artists and to teach my musical skills.
I used to have that “too old” mentality. As long as you’re relevant and feel the music you’re putting out, age shouldn’t matter.
I'm with you, man!
It takes 10 years to even achieve a professional standard as a producer. When most people seriously start in the early 20s they only start being 'good enough' to be signed at 30, then it takes years of grinding and releasing on smaller but reputable labels, slowly building up your portfolio of tunes and getting gigs and transition into full time musicianship at 40.
You are only gonna be old if you keep on having the mindset that you are too old to do something. I think saying "I'm too old" is another excuse for musicians lol.
You're so right!
I believe if God continues to wake you up, it’s never too late.
Thanks so much for this. Needed to hear this ❤
Loved it, @66. Started from scratch at 55. Way passed the 10,000 hours. Not a star, but enjoying every bit of it. So I started to enjoy this as soon as I got into the train - with a one way ticket; rolling, rolling
“Enjoying every bit of it” makes my day to hear!
Sorry if I asks you,playing guitar ?
I taught myself piano and guitar when I was 19. All I know is I feel pure happiness when I discover a melody and lyrics. Everything else is profane decadence.
Thanks for the video man. Lots of ups and downs for me musically but I will record and release an album this year, finally. Thank you for helping me see things more realistically.
You are always so on point 🖤
And this why I come back to you. You only one keeps it real. These vids help me get out my head.
I appreciate that! None of us should stay in our head. Stay present in the moment and do the work. 💪🏼
Thanks Adam! Ima get started on that list. 🙌🏾
Any time!
Your content is just so consitently valuable and fire...Thank you so so so much...That last part about being a business owner and not an emotionally driven artist is something that I really needed to hear...I get so caught up in the metaphysical beauty of creating music and just assuming that I should "Make it" just because I feel like that's what i was born to do, but i completely neglect the business aspect of it and wonder why i'm still not where I wanna be...i'm turning 28 soon so i'm knocking on 30s door and this is something i think about a lot. Thanks again for all you create. (Also the little detail of the confetti getting stuck to your face was so good LMFAOOO)
There's so much opportunity out there that isn't in the limelight. Most people don't see that which means those opportunities are ripe for the taking.
I started doing this chart, and in 10 minutes found I'd expanded it into a whole spreadsheet with other impacts I'm feeling in addition to age, and also breaking it down by the different things I've been trying to do (original music, cover performances, placements, and teaching.) I appreciate the push towards focus and reality.
Facts, needed this in the morning on the way to my 9-5
This is what I need to hear as a artist 💥 love this guy keep being honest and yes if you don't believe in yourself no one will that's just the facts of the universe
I'm 62 and just love making music just for fun, spotify beats, by, dizzy never give up.
M8, top video. I've been playing music for most of my life and make songs for the sheer fun of it, and in the back of my mind identified I didn't have that focus and unrelenting drive necessary to make a career out of it years ago. Non-musicians though frequently ask why I don't pursue music and your videos give me a good way to explain it, so cheers. I still get joy from making music, and knowing some people who have made respectable careers in the genres I play makes me more aware that that lifestyle is not for me.
Enjoyed this!
You inspired me to make my own music, thankyou!
A Logical and inspirational Vid . Nice work CAMCURSE
Nice advice. We just celebrated our 20th anniversary at our recording studio Sonic Palace. I still get to make music...and a living! Best wishes to all artists, you can too!
I am 66, and have been involved in the music business in some form my entire life. I am pleasantly surprised how busy I stay at this point in life. I don't push it, or really market myself. Don't make a vast amount of money, but I survive comfortably. And no, there's no wife or inheritance, just trying to make sense of it all.
Good stuff man
Well said Adam!
Excellent brother thanks 🙏🎶🌴
I am 35 but started back around 2009. I took a long break after moving to Japan, but just started making beats and instrumentals again last year. Its definitely more saturated now compared to 2009, but at the same time theres a ton more resources to use and learn from.
Ahhh!!!! THANK YOU
Being making music for 20 years and I'm 34 now. Great videos 📹 👌
Great video
Thanks!
I have that feeling of making music since i was young, but i don't even know where to start
JamWayne proves it all 💯🔥👀
I have no desire to be signed to a label, but I'm a music producer, not a vocalist. I'm 32, been performing music since 9 years old but in a different music avenue than production. Started music production in 2023 and It brings more fulfillment to me than anything i've done.
The biggest regret I have of all regrets in my life is not beginning this music production journey many years ago.
been wanting to do music since 15, bough some gear during the pandemic and been messing around with it for last 2 years, hoping to release something next year and by then that would make me 30
Im glad this popped up! I needed to hear this. I started producing a few weeks ago, and I turn 33 in a couple of weeks.
For some reason I never cared about being signed to a label. I always wanted to DIY it. Perhaps it was foolish for someone who started back in the 90s but at this point I think its fine. I really enjoy having total responsibility over what I create. My success and my failures are mine. I can't imagine wanting it any other way. Best of luck to all of you who are trying to make it out there, no matter the path you choose.
Nice flannel btw Adam !
I started writing in my 20's, took a very long break from music, now finally releasing in my late 40's
Best video ive seen in a loong time
lets just say...i just started getting some traction and i am 30 but look 23-25 at most...should this mean i should re consider my goals still or keep going at this route im taking? not getting the results i want yet but i am barely getting my first track released this month through a label in EDM and i guess i came here for validation. sorry if this does not make any sense
Same question here!!
Brings back memories :-)
@Jacre know this more than anyone! ruclips.net/video/QXpFfJsalnY/видео.html
i've tried pursuing other opportunities in more traditional, sensible setting/career trajectories. i've tried the zen approach and waiting for opportunities to come to me and i'm still broke, unfulfilled, with a passion and vision for music so why the hell not.
I have decided to do just this and realised that the only reason I didn't succeed was because I tracked nothing. Now I track every music library I sign with, every music supervisor I contact, every dance label I submit to. So far I've got my first goal of a decent bespoke library. I never took the time to track my goals until now. I also have a decent TikTok. I had to get my ego out of it so I can start to make the money. I have a 2 day old son and he would say "Dad just get money so I can eat". Simple.
I’m 28 starting a metal band I love singing i don’t care about signing a label record labels are becoming extinct with streaming etc
What metal genre? Have any material released?
A very useful bit of advice for anyone who feels lost, which lest face it, is everyone at some point!
On occasion, I get some of it wrong and some of it right and it can be difficult to find a balance, but when you set achievable goals, you tend to achive them more often than not.
I used to put this point across as a Fitness Instructor/PT... People would come to me asking what the quickest way to loose "weight" or "how many crunches will give me a six pack" would be and my favourite "what diet is best"
Now I'm not trying to insult the intelligence of these questions, as they're all valid, but the world has given us some false ideas in these areas...
1) You want to loose "fat" not "weight" (it's not that simple)
2) Crunches are no where near the most effecive way to get a six pack (compound exercise will gain muscle and shred fat)
3) There's no "one size fits all diet" for anyone!
The point is, everyone's body is different and this is why we have PTs and programme etc...
I'd always say "start with one realistic goal, set a realistic deadline and once that's done, learn from what you do wrong and ad another 2 goals... this applies to almost anything in life!
I also used to say, "But do what I advise, not what I do" 😅
I love that!
I'm 44 and composing/producing professionally (playing and composing since I was a kid and teen) and also working as an audio engineer since I was 21, more or less. I mainly work as a film/tv composer, but I also did and do other things like record promoter and project manager for music and film. Gotta do several stuff to keep inside the loop.
Also, I'm always learning.
By the way Adam can you do an update on IG strategy?
Dropping some new videos on IG strategy. Dropped one on a new tool that I've been using that has made things way easier.
Adam channeling his inner internets busiest music nerd with that shirt on
I like this. I write perform and produce my own stuff but it’ll just be icing if it makes any money. I love my stuff and it gives me the most joy, but I know for a fact the majority of my career will be making content and contributing to other people’s stuff. Nothing wrong with that
I’m 31 and been incarcerated for ten years (my life has been weird) and I’m never going to give up, but the dream of playing the world in a band with my best friends (which was the original trajectory and had a decent chance as far as those things go, I’m still friends with those cats) is over, and that’s okay too, gotta be resilient and adaptable as a grown man
People who still do soundtracks are still amazing and at times more awe inducing then normal artists, mick gordon, tom salta, keicchi okobe made stuff that are not only beautiful but sheer enticing. I still remember how I lost my shit when I heard the nier soundtrack on the background of the japan olympics
I’m 40, but I’ve been playing piano and keyboards since I was in my late teens yet I tried to teach myself as a child overcoming a learning disability. I did develop an ear for music. I attempted at songwriting as a teenager, but I needed to write better, so I didn’t start back up until my mid-30s. I did compose when I took a MIDI class in college and I also played in a contemporary pop college ensemble and played at a local nightclub four times in each four semesters. I have to get myself back out there to perform and to keep writing to make a name for myself, and I also have to finish my education with a degree in Commercial Music to see where I go from there as a musician.
I wish you the best luck! My son has LD too, hope he finds a passion in life!
Myself after raising a family got back to Music @56. Never to late.
Share your love and pursuit your dreams!
It's a good idea to create comercial music or rather to focus on what you feel to express?
Does “commercial music” make you happy? If the answer is no why would you do it?
Yeah I knew this, so I just started my own label.
How’s the label doing?
my son born at 11:11 on 1st of January ... I was singing songs to him and everyone said why don't u become a singer and that's what im doing now.. life is too short... go do it ,, if it works u be a star , if it doesn't work u have an experience
"Maybe go stand outside?" 🤣🤣
I'm 15 and I really really really like to learn how to play guitar and sing , BUT my parents don't let me do it even as a hobby , i didn't even tell them that i want to make a career out of it , what should i do ???
Sing to yourself and with friends. Watch RUclips videos and learn the fundamentals of music. That should give you a start. My father discouraged me a lot when I was a kid when it came to my music - it held me back for many years. Mom was more of a nurturer and believed in me.
Being +30 was anxiety provoking.. But our music careers have never been better!
That's what I'm talking about! Love seeing it.
@@adamivy We are in a way better financial position to market our music, create more and our network has expanded. We were kinda tied down as "kids" and young adults on these factors.
Never to old...
All i wanna do
Is make music Do videos on RUclips and preform live I love music I’m a vocalist and. Guitar player write music
I don’t care about nothing ! I’m doing the music I love and going as far as I can!!
You’re never too old
ruclips.net/video/1-8xMWA6_ZE/видео.html
AMEN!!!❤❤❤
if you're a genius, you're a genius, it doesn't matter what age you are.
Jay Z was in his late 20's trying to get a label to back his first commercial album ' Reasonable Doubt'. No one wanted him because he was pushing 30 and the music he came with was pretty far from trendy, even a bit unfamiliar in the hiphop/rap sphere at the time. Fast forward and he was the hottest product in the genre throughout his 30's. Even tried to retire after 'The Black Album' and if you know his discography, you'd know people would have missed out on some killer music if he had stopped there.
As a side note before people compare themselves though - Jay Z had an unfair advantage; a shit ton of money to fund himself from successfully selling drugs in NYC during the height of the crack epidemic. But still.
you are cool guy I like the real talk love lovely love love
I was 39 years old when Katy Perry invited me on her "Hello Katy Tour".
The only time I really consider my age is when it comes to stage performance (I do a lot of choreography, often in heels or thigh high boots;). My recurring internal struggle has been figuring out how to succeed and carve out a space as a black LGBT artist when there were few, if any, examples to look to when I was growing up
If your music is good that's all that matters. Perhaps focus on that and then TEACH the choreography to other performers? I live in West Hollywood and there are ppl like Chi Chi Larue who do very well as DJ's and teaching choreography.
@@feastorafamine Thanks. I really don't know who else I'd teach choreography to though. Most of the other artists in my local scene are bands or rappers who don't really dance when they perform
@@afrosensei5308 so what? You do You! Who cares what anyone else is doing? Especially when they are all doing the same thing. Do you have any venues in your area that support LGBT?
@feastorafamine I was replying to your suggestion that I teach choreography for other artists. It's not that I care or am worried about what other local artists are doing. It's just that, other than one LGBTQ bar (which is the first one we've had in almost a decade) there's no consistent place for me to perform (and the crowd at the bar wants Drag Race style lipsyncs, not original music). Among black artists, rap dominates in both sound, look, and how things are promoted. On the rock side, it's mostly bands, acoustic artists or swamp pop. When I've approached them about performing, I usually get met with "Hmm, didn't know we had that (electronic music) here," and that's about it. I definitely appreciate the gigs I do get. But it is frustrating and sometimes lonely being an anomaly in my local scene
@@afrosensei5308 I understand friend. Not everywhere in the world is West Hollywood where I live. I wish for you a creative outlet but most importantly to keep creating 💜🌈💪
Do you edit these videos yourself? If not, can you pleeaaase give whom ever edited this video a high five from me?
Thank God for Griselda..... look any age will do as long as you BUILD your following that rocks with YOUR MUSIC. If you have 10k fans that like your old ass I don't see nothing wrong with it !!! Stop making your age a issue and do what you're passionate about RESPONSIBLY 🤷🏽♂️ it's that simple. One thing I can DEFINITELY agree on is trying to get signed in ur 30s is a waste of time anyway 😂😂😂😂😂 Sony Records told me I was too old at 27 so I can only imagine at 37-47 build your fan base, make your money, live your life💯💯💯
Its no Age limit To Anything Anyone Doubting is and won't be Successful
I'm 21 but i wish i did something when i was 13, i feel old.
Old is a feeling based on a number. You “feeling” old is something you can easily change. 21 isn’t old in any kind of way.
*I can accomplish massive dreams while maintaining a realistic vision of the future if I’m in control!*
Let's 👏 Go!!! 👏
Im 48, been into music for 25 years. I'm legit more advanced at Guitar playing and Engineering than I've ever been. (I look 35 though, that doesn't help, wish it did)
Commercial success is no way to define success. Sign a contract and they own your ass! I’m 52 and late to the game but gigging “playing my own songs” 3-7 days a week and getting paid. I’m releasing music that I want to play with lingering leads baby! None of that 3 minutes song BS. Just for the fun of it, but can actually make a living from it if I want to gig non-stop. Getting better with age!
well, I’m 37, and the problem is I just learned to sing
I’m 39.. I started LEARNING guitar and songwriting at 33… I wrote and put out my first EP in Dec 2021.. I did it just for me because I loved the process of songwriting. Then I realized that I want to make an income out of this… so, I realized that I want to get my songs on Tv, movies and commercials.. I have no interest In being a pop star.. I’ve been working on a Christmas song that I will be releasing this year. My first Ep was just for me. My Christmas song I’m approaching more as a business because I really want to push it and make money off of it. So, we’ll see what happens.
Great, but if your exclusive focus is money, it'll make that climb more difficult. Nothing wrong with financial reward, but have fun and avoid burn-out from the chore of 'just being another job'.
@@jaysonwallker1648 you’re absolutely right.. my primary goal isn’t money. I really love Christmas and I really wanted to write a song that would express my feelings that come up during the holidays… but in the past I’ve been art focused.. and other people i know have been more business focused and they’ve had more success than i have. So I wanted to try to implement some of that way of thinking.
I don't want to be signed but i honestly think artists are not really fully developed until their 30s at least, regardless of the art form.
16 but I'm been rapping since 11
I thought music is about what different niches of people want to listen to..
i'm 26, my son is 4, i really feel like i don't have enough time. No joke. I don't let my beard grow, i stopped smoking weed after 10 years smoking everyday7+ grams, i stopped drinking beer, soda or any sugar stuff. Just to look young. I could say its to be healthy and shit but thats really 2nd 😅
I just had my first child this year and I totally understand how you feel. I'm working to be aware of the time I do have. It exists! I just have an inner narrative that doesn't acknowledge it. I am working hard to remove that narrative and get to work. 💪
Anybody that tells you you have to grow a beard, drink or smoke dope to do music is nuts. Those are just excuses and crutches for many. Exceed in most of this stuff and you can actually hurt yourself and destroy a budding (pun unintended) career.
i think you didn't understood the context bro. I meant i stopped doing things i like to do like smoke and drink cuz i'm feeling old as i see my son grow. Instead of stopping drinking and smoking to be healthy i stopped cuz i feel old. Moral of the story is that getting old is freaking me out more than not being healthy. Nobody told me nothing, i love to grow and smoke weed since i was 16, i love a cold beer, but i don't have time for this anymore since i got to work my 9/5, write, record, mix and master my music.@@jaysonwallker1648
Like my uncle Jon said: It's all in the attitude. How's yours?
I was laboring under the illusion that the numbers requested would reveal something. I guess we are meant to analyze that ourselves.
I think the exercise is pretty straight forward for self reflection.
@@adamivy you had us list all these numbers then sort of bailed after that. My man don't get me wrong. I actually love the vid, I just thought there would be a correlation further explained.
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I think you are missing a very crucial point in this video: despite your age you have always the chance to join an already established band someday. Maybe not Metallica. Maybe not Iron Maiden. But a band that can afford a living from their music. 😁
That's a great point!
Gosh, I thought somehing was wrong with my computer, what with all the weird SOUND EFFECTS on this! I do appreciate the content, except for that!
😂 🤷🏻♂️ just YouTubing. Changing things up. If you’re watching through all my videos you’ll see things change, things stay the same, things happen only in one video. That’s the name of the game. If nothing changes then… nothing changes.
@@adamivy I prefer things stay the same, personally. What's important is what you are SAYING.
I'm 15 and I already feel to old been doing it for 2 years
You need to snap out of that right away. You are just starting out and have plenty of time ahead of you.
@@adamivy thx I will make sure to.
sheryl crow got a late start. look where it got her.
Scoring films. Age doesn't even touch it.
i think your framing the picture wrong. Older people don't care do gigs and make money extra on a pension is ok.
I respect your opinion. The perspective isn’t addressing folks old enough to collect a pension or retirement though. It would be a bit of a waste of time making a video to encourage 60+ year old musicians to go after a full time music career.
Not true.
Totally confused by your comment but thank you for sharing.
How old ? Mate I truly hate limiters…….people who espouse inner knowledge to tell you your limits. B.S. A 99 year old will do it and put a scrambled egg all over face while playing his for over 80’s musical hit.
I assume you left this comment after watching 45 seconds of the video.
i’m 23 n feel old asf
That's a choice. Choices are decisions. Only you can change these self-limiting inner dialogues.
So in other words if your not 16 forget tryna get signed I think this video is harmful we live in a age where anything is possible the labels are noticing that there are artists who are over 30 that just started and they are doing NUMBERS never give up on your dreams this guy is telling you it’s a slim to none chance that’s not true
I’m assuming you commented before watching the whole video? The fact is there is slim to no chance of getting signed to a major label with a good deal once you’re over 30. Why does that upset you and how is that harmful? What’s harmful is grown adults not understanding the actual business side of the music industry and thinking they need a label to be successful.
I just wanna quit my day job not be a star
Love it. How much money would you have to make consistently in order to do that?
@@adamivy 100k a year would be ideal
So if youre over 30 u cant be a solo artist? Lol
Who said that? Anyone can be an artist. My point was if you’re over 30 and trying to get a label/record deal, you’re focusing on the wrong thing.
@@adamivy i guess labels nowadays focus more on popularity not age ,they would happily sign a popular thirty something than to sign a twenty nobody
I am 45 😂 and I don’t care what people think. But that been said I am realistic a pop artist career is not for me. I sell reggae riddims 😅
Everybody is not looking to get sign …I’m a producer ..like a coach I can work forever like Quincy Jones