Can Ireland's attack penetrate South Africa's superb defence?
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Bok fan here, all I can say is I respect Ireland. They have Incredible hands in the backline, super organized. Goodluck to both teams. Rugby is such a beautiful game man. 🍻
Please stop with this Bok arrogance!! 😁😁
Respect to both teams, let's hope it's a great game of rugby 🎉
@@daronmann7159How was that arrogance in general?
@@nigel8484 oh dear Lord. RUclips really needs a "this is obviously a joke" font
@@daronmann7159 Even as a joke, you need better humor
Next to that button should be "That was trash"
Bok support here...two great teams, one awesome game Ireland vs South Africa coming up....Ireland has the best structure, process, and discipline of any team in rugby. The boks are an emotional team...and they are designed for knock out tournament style rugby because of their both defensive and pack structure...it will be a great game....no injuries and cards!!! good luck to the boyz in green...dark green :)
I've realised that pastel green works as well.
It's called myrtle green. And don't forget the gold ;)
@@LB_die_Kaapie gotcha!
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What superb analysis! It s a pleasure to listen to you guys.Thank you for noticing the detail and giving us the insider’s view. You see things others don’t.
Yeah man, cant agree more with this comment. Think the Boks and Ireland should sign an agreement with world rugby before the game that all red cards to be treated as yellow just for this game. I want 15 on 15 for the whole game, dont want to lose with 14 and dont want to win against 14
Lets hope for a great game with no cards that will ruin the outcome.
Pundits and fan comments aside, IRE vs SA is close to 50/50. Hopefully no cards.
Ireland and SA Clash is gonna be epic, and rightfully so, they are the 2 top teams in the world, there styles of play are different but I would love to see each team approach to this, best of luck to both when they meet
crazy how fans an pundits alike know how to beat the springboks, next thing you know your teams 30-0 down and its all over in a flash.
Your comment, Sir, wins the internet... funny - but oh so true LOL
Ireland beat them last time they played but ok 😂
@LeMerch the Springboks are a different pack in the World Cup. All the time.
@@LeMerchYou won by 3pts. Well played but you didn’t dominate. Nor was it a comfortable win.
@LeMerch So did NZ , by far more than 3 points . Next game , biggest ever defeat in NZ history . Ireland are good but past games mean nothing .
The Boks won against Scotland not playing at 70% of what they did to the AB's. I think they will gear up against Ireland. Two good and well managed teams. I hope for a great game of rugby!
The Boks gave Scotland nothing, awesome defense! But the Scots soaked up a lot of their pressure too. SA v Ireland, could be a classic!
Ireland are an extremely different team to Scotland. Boks can’t afford to make a single mistake or will be punished. Rush defence will be risky against a team like Ireland you can break your line numerous ways and then have you doubting
@@LeMerchCan't wait to react to this comment in 2 weeks.
The impressive thing about the boks is that their replacements are as powerful as the first choices. Whether Ireland can match this will decide the outcome of the match. Sexton's place kicking could also be a deciding factor. Fascinating game.
Quality strength in depth is what wins world cups. That's why SA do well. Ireland have a lot more strength in depth than they used to have but they're never going to be at South Africas level on that front. Along with the Pumas, SA are the only tier one side with no foreigners or project players. Plus, they supply a lot of other sides with SA players. Look at Scotland.
@@PB22559sometimes in rugby the better coached team wins . The irish clubs regularly best south african clubs .these players have also best south africa the last two times they have played. Mentally ireland are in a very good place and every single one of dem fully believe they will beat south africa . Ireland have a few tricks up there sleeve for you
But the last time they played, it was outside the international “game window”, meaning SA was without those that play in Europe, a week after only just losing to France, with only 14 men. Meaning it was about half the team, at the last game, at the end of a year long season, that was transitioning from SuperRugby to the URC. And probably half the “stars” in Irish club rugby are either Saffas or kiwis. And that’s without looking at the nationality of the Irish clubs coaches. And none of the SA club sides have the current Bok coach. So I don’t think your argument holds a hell of a lot of water.
You forgot to mention that SA have 8 times the playing population of Ireland and no one cares about rugby in Ireland. You also forgot to mention their pack is 100kg heavier than ours and they still struggle to beat us. And this coming from an NZ fan where rugby is a religion and you’re still diabolical. As soon as rugby went professional you went downhill fast because there no more amateur teams to beat😂😂
Also you have more foreign born players in your squad than Ireland. Probably any international side for that matter because all you do is poach Pacific Islanders. And don’t make excuses about the end of a long season they came over and got beaten. We were at the end of a long season and we absolutely smashed you twice in a row at home but then again New Zealand are trash so it’s to be expected. How does it make you feel that a country that has 100k playing population is number one in the world? When rugby is a religion in your country and you’re getting smashed by nations they don’t even care about the sport and barely play it that’s when you need to stop watching the sport. Your illusion of invincibility was shattered when other nations started taking the sport seriously and now you’re sitting there crying. You were trash the other night I was laughing my head off. Can’t wait to smash you in the quarters and laugh at you. No respect for a nation that puts their lives into a sport and gets smashed regularly by a nation that doesn’t even care about the sport. You’ll never come back from that. Move onto a new sport mate.
I can tell you how to beat the Boks. Toss a few pieces of biltong around the field. Goodluck fellas.
Ireland fan here. SA are formidable. No question. Their defense against a very good Scotland side was great. Line speed was off the charts. Finding gaps for the our centers to exploit will be very hard. SA will be anticipating our loops and skips and feints. My guess is unstructured play will decide the game, chip aheads, cross fields, Garyowens, grubbers etc. Brains over brawn will decide this one😄
You know your rugby mate
I think England laid the blue print for beating a strong and solid team like South Africa, when they beat Argentina, Rather than going through 10 to 20 phases and tiring out and risking injuries just to get to the try line , go for drop goals at every available opportunity, with a competent kicker, we may only have to go through 3 to 4 phases to set us up for the drop goals thus nullifying their bomb squads and big men. These drop goals will add up and frustrate South Africa which may lead to south Africa holding on to the ball more and not kicking thus Ireland pinning them back in their own half. This will also keep our players that little bit stronger when defending which might make all the difference in keeping them out. usually I would advocate for keeping the ball and getting bonus points via tries, but perhaps we can switch it up each half. @bikeman9899
@@TheContrarianMind Yes. I like it
@@TheContrarianMindyou first have to get in range 😂 Scotland got one penalty in range, 80 min . Dont think they were in range for comfortable drops that much as well . 😂 as Mike Tyson said " Everybody has a plan until I punch them " .. Ireland is the most rounded team in the tournament , structured professional, tactically brilliant but they do not beat the Boks on the level of controlled agression and physical dominance and doggedness or have the amount of game breakers that the Bokke have ..its bound to be a very tight game but I see the Boks doing the same to Ireland as what they did to Scotland . But as we say here in SA - Let it falls where it wants to 😁😉🤪
Ah, another one thinking the Boks don't have brains 🙄
The raining defending champions of the world the Springboks will again show the world how to handle pressure on the biggest stage🇿🇦
Not this time mate.
Think SA is at another level
Nobody is close
Hope no one reigns on our parade! 😂😂
@@DomDeDom for the sake of the game of rugby I hope you are wrong. No one wants to see 15 obese juicers make 2 yard runs all day
SA will be the first to win back to back World Cups
The emerald vs the myrtle eh? This could well be the game of the tournament. Such a pity in many respect it comes so early but there we are. Ireland SA and France for me are the top 3 on form. I certainly believe Ireland can and may well beat SA but on the flipside SA have beaten a decent tier one with some awesome awesome defence and moments of attacking genius. Ireland have more of a grind to our game. Once we have the measure of you we pressure and pounce on mistakes. Its the first 20 mins arm wrestle in each half that will be incredibly exciting. We need to get to the pitch of the power and speed game very very early to have a chance. SA shock and awe might falter on Irish rocks. I'm not a betting man. Thank God!!
🔥🇿🇦🔥 I'm sorry mate but there's no way you winning this one... It might be close but the saffas is gonna show why they're the world champs
Hey man I won't be a bit surprised! I just hope if its a defeat its not a collapse and we're in it til the very end... A win over Sco hopefully and we might see SA again to put it right. Ireland learn well.. @@queyoung754
@@queyoung754 Write off the Irish at your own peril.
The All Blacks are the only pressure for us in this world cup but still not scared. GO SPRINGBOKS!
Thanks, gents - very astute discussion. Really looking forward to playing you guys. If the Irish win the WC instead of my Boks I'll be very happy for your country and try find the cash to fly over to Dublin to witness the celebrations - Irish rugby deserves good things no doubt about it.
Thanks my friend. If Ireland can't win I'll be rooting for the Boks. Great rugby nation and the country could generally use a lift too - corrupt politicians, even worse than ours!
@@3108dd tell me about it 😅 !
I think we'd actually be able to turn the lights on in our homes in SA if they introduced honest scrums and rucks into parliament!
SA vs Ireland will (in my humble opinion) be the match of the tournament. Ireland's attack is simply sublime, based on their incredibly quick recycling of the ball. Opposed to the Boks' defensive structure. Both teams counter-attack equally well. Looking forward to that.
You wouldn't expect any less from the top 2 teams in rugby atm. I just hope it isn't decided by cards or dodgy officiating
In the end...any team can win on the day..
Point is both Ireland and Boks will be playing either France or Abs in quarters...thats tue game that counts for either team.
who you start against is very important n i think the Boks had a good opponent as a start. Ireland will have a huge test when they finally meet the SB
Ireland has the advantage of having seen each of Boks's and Scotland's optimum level of play before playing each of them. That is useful knowledge they can add to their preparation. The other two teams don't have that.
South Africa haven't peaked yet. They're only doing what they need to do to go through to the knock out stages. They seem to be holding back a bit. The springboks always perform when it matters most. And what matters most to them is the World Cup. They always build for World Cup's.
South Africa will beat Ireland . If they get past the quarters, they will go on to win the tournament.
Dream on, Ireland will put I up to the boks. Bok fans over confident.
@@johnmc3862 I'm very, very nervous about Ireland as a Bok fan. The overconfident ones don't speak for the rest of us.
Can't see the Boks losing a single game
@DomDeDom as Safrican myself I think so too. We might have one or two difficult and close games but I think we got this.
@@DomDeDom ITT tthe SA vs Ireland game will be decided on a razor thin margin. A one score game with the loser crying about avery call and bounce that didn't go their way.
Love to see all the comments and hear all the RUclips opinions.. Fortunately the game is not played in comments or on RUclips videos so can't wait for the actual game.. BTW Mike Tysons comment is quite applicable.."everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" just ask Finn and company how those plans worked out for them.. Good luck to both teams and let the best one win!
Hmmm tough one. Tbh im real disappointed with scotland who looked promising. Its true, Ireland have been holding back. Next week is going to be a rager. No one wants to come second in this group, its like a death sentence.
Boks will give us no room, their rush defence and set piece is impreccable. Gibson park will need bullet fingers to create enough space off 9 to get 1 or 2 clear opportunities in 80 mins! Maybe Faz starts murray and then brings on park , that was what i think temporarily phased them at the aviva.
This game will take a moment of brilliance ,unlike in 2019,the noks has thise guys in the backline now,eg, a no look kick will decide the match.
Ireland has never beaten the boks on neutral ground 🤩🤔 a bit deceiving to have a recent winning record against the boks if you always have home ground advantage
Don't see how neutral ground would be worse than in South Africa.
Everyone has a plan till the Boks are in your face, 15mins of Bok forwards and your whole team is bent, Bok backs on you like white on rice....Boks only have one plan!
How come they did that last time these two teams played and Ireland still won?
@LeMerch by 3 points in Dublin so yeah mate keep in mind no recognized no10 during that time too and this time it's neutral ground so let's wait and see
Plus that time it was towards the end of our season. Your season just started then. So now we even stevens
They have lost three times in. The last year. I think they might not have that dog in them when it's a close game. Difference between winners and teams that go out in the quarters.
Much of the northern hemisphere teams including Ireland grab leftovers from southern hemisphere teams now you think your world cup winning material, amongst all northern hemisphere teams in history combined how many world cups have you won? Keep dreaming boys.
Occasionally, on a Bok defence off day, but what they cant do is out grunt and outlast the Bok pack, oh, and the bomb squad in the second half.😉
The Game SA, v Scotland was Absolute Rubbish,Scotland made so many mistakes,if lreland played it would have been BAd for the Scots,
Both amazing teams. All i can suggest is to stay humble and never count the chickens before they have hatched. Big talk is not wise talk. Go the bokke but also go rugby!
Ireland will need a bulldozer to break through that SA defence. All they can do is hope SA make mistakes, and give away kickable penalties.
Irish very organised side...not easy but Bokes will be ready....
World Cup titles prove you turn up when it matters. Ireland need to lift this cup to prove their number 1 status.
If Ireland don’t win the World Cup what’s the point of been ranked number 1 you need to cement that.
Were going to have a rough time they are strong at the ruck if we have anyone isolated expect the bok pack to turn us over. If we can get the speed we can catch them offside and take the points we have to be sharp at line out too. I respect their power however I think we are faster and fitter at ruck time. It will be a tough test.
For me it's a coin flip, prefer to lose this coin flip and win if the next coin flip if we were to meet again in the tournament. SA are for me are the best squad at the moment though from 1-23 there is so much ammunition. Don't mind who wins as long as there is no injuries and it's tight.
Everyone has a plan: until they get punched in the face” - Mike Tyson. Go bokke!
IRE need to step up levels against boks to even have a chance.....so money will be on boks till IRE can prove to be a threat.
Ireland are well in the mix for sure.
Can Ireland penetrate the bok defense? Yes they absolutely can. The Irish are just class. Massive game coming up between two titans.
Im imagining a world where both the Springboks and Scotland beat Ireland and send them crashing out in the group stage. Send the whole country into mourning for a few months 😂🇿🇦
You're a bit of a sad character lad, scrolling through Irish podcasts just to drop your negative BS , just enjoy the games will ya and lay off the low self-esteem vibes you Saffas seem to have about any time your name is mentioned. 🙄This is the exact reason why no body likes SA fans, so keep up the trend lad.
@@rocky-xj9vcHOPE YOU NOT SMOKING SOME STRONG STUFF. IRELAND WONT FIELD A STRONG TEAM AGAINST SA TO REST PLAYERS FOR THEIR BIG GAME AGAINST SCOTLAND.
Keep on dreaming 😂😂☘️🇮🇪☘️
You have a great imagination. Did you also see the cow flying over the moon last night? 😂😂
@@marioadams8931
Seriously that was some weak attempt at trolling.
Get a life 😂
Wouldn't mind finishing second if it means we play newzealand in the quaters . Pollard to play 15 or center
That would mean France need to lose to italy without a bonus point
@@CF-lg8jd or south africa loosing to Ireland
a Big game for both teams - Both teams know this one can be for the cup. Ireland a very settled team, Boks big on defence with few game breakers. For both teams I wish a game without Red Cards and Injuries. Good luck to both teams.
Waited for this one since 5 November 2022 Aviva Stadium, Dublin 19-16.
Ireland ALWAYS pull out some new tricks in all the big games. I’ve a feeling they are gonna pull something out against SA. Whether they win or not, who knows - but I can smell a good game! The Boks looks insanely good, especially in defence.
Boks will beat Ireland
Talking about tricks up your sleeves! 😂😂 please don't forget Rassie😅 nevermind the sleeves😂 the whole jacket is full of tricks. He is the genius of rugby and tactics.
@@brianogai1086 We'll see.
A world cup cycle is 4 years. After the World Cup South Africa took a full year break break from rugby. We came back to beat the Lions. That tour was poor and we did not even have a 10 of you recall. We were not destroyed by Ireland regardless and even France with us having a red card. Note both teams were playing at home. Now I read comments from Irish fans using that game as a yardstick? You forget that even Scotland on that tour ran the Boks close! From that time they went on to improve to the "best Scotland team ever" but you also what happened in the rematch. One thing about the Boks, we evolve. In Ireland, France and Scotland we kicked a lot and you called us boring... we don't kick anymore meaning our tactics have drastically changed. The Boks are genuinely the one team that respects Ireland but does not fear it. Ireland has to worry about Scotland also... the Boks don't. Food for thought.
No doubt the Boks are far better at peaking for WCs, my hope is Ireland are doing the same this year, genuinely think it's a coin toss, doubt we'll be able to deal with Scotland as easily as your boys did, that was impressive and only in 3rd gear. I'm not sure anyone who has watched SA the past 2 years can pigeon hole them, they've got 3 ways of playing and honestly they are as good as any team at each of them, it's going to be a proper test
@@CF-lg8jdIf we are genuine, no one wants to meet France in that quarter hence being top of the group is critical lol. Good luck the rest of the way
So pleased to hear that Murray and Bernard now know what it’s like for the rest of us trying to get into a stadium. (See full length episode).
I don’t think analyding the game vd Romania will be of any help agsunst SA. You can just play as well as your opposition allows you to. And we as SA will not allow you to play a game such as against Romania. So be aware. And Ireland is relying too much on one player…..
I think the Irish pack can handle the SA pack including their bomb squad. We did in the Autumn test. I know its the WC and alot different, but both teams are well up for this game. I do believe Ireland have something up their sleave. Jesus, I hope they do.. Jonny should increase his shoulder padding to 95% of his body. 😂
May the best team win.. Ireland 🇮🇪
You wait until they meet Brute force.
I like the confidence... It was first the Scotts the were gonna beat us, well that didn't go too well.. let's see if the Irish are about that life... Don't even mention the past coz head to head we Victorious... 🇿🇦🔥
The Autum series did not feature a full strength SB team
@@leonvanvuuren7485check again
Ohdear I don't think so.Neutral playing field not at home Ireland are going to lose
South African here.. in the Boks last few games. They only had 1 single try against them. The last time we played the All Blacks I think, I stand corrected. The Boks don't mind the Irish having the ball.. cause that just means we'll put a shitload of line speed pressure with our defense, for u to make mistakes..The boks actually love playing defense as a weapon. 😊
Springboks is unpredictable they study the opponent well & change the pattern & strategy accordingly
It is very easy to do that, the fly half must use the chip and grubber kick much more behind the Springboks defense line so that they must turn around
You have Tonga first
The SA v Ireland game will be a repeat of AB v Ireland at last World Cup.
I fancy ireland for the lot
It may be that the outcome depends on kicks and SA are valuable.
I think Irelands biggest disadvantage is that the Boks are not scared of them. They are still a minnow to us mentally. Unlike NZ which have always delivered and been our Achilles. Great game lined up and I cant wait.
This just shows your arrogance, since 2004 Ireland have beat South Africa 7 times from 11 games, including the last two meetings, one of which might I add was a 38-3 thumping. To refer to Ireland as minnows is just ridiculous.Ireland isn't scared of the Boks either and the Boks are very beatable. I don't think the Bok players are thinking Ireland are inferior and will duly show them the respect they have earned.
Sweet lord. What dribble.
@@bobsyourunclefannysyouraun6997 A) I was white boy wasted when I posted that. B) Facts are facts mate. I would rather play Ireland now vs NZ every day of the week. I know their previous world cup history is strong, I mean its no easy feat getting knocked out in the knockout phases in the first round....how many times now? But Its not the same. I cant think of one time we lost against Ireland where I was like ah shit that sucks. In fact, I can barely even remember a game against them. And to the oke with the "Ireland have won all the games" Ireland have only once beaten us at a venue other than Dublin. So we shall see.
@@matthewpurdon6828Ireland is a step up from Scotland without a doubt. hopefully it’s a good game and not many injuries.
Minnows 😂
That could come back to bite you
The Irish played against what I will call a SA B school team and win by far. We will see what they do against the Boks that had to face a major challence in round 1.
What a load of nonsense.
If the Springboks are not at there best, they will lose badly. If at there best they could just bring a upset to the no 1 ranked team.
Ireland has 8 foreign-born players. 6 of them born and produced in South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. While every Springbok at RWC 2023 was born and raised in South Africa
You lost me at "Danny Cipriani is a genius."
I am saying it here, its a Springbok and All Blacks final
France V Ireland final
Cant wait for Ireland. Thats the game we want.
Since when did irish get so arrogant 😅😅
What a load of nonsense
I do believe that Ireland will win Scotland. Ireland will top the group & play France. Ireland can beat France. SA & Ireland might meet each other in the finals... again.
If Ireland top their group, they will almost certainly play New Zealand not France in the quarterfinals.
Nah, Scotland will knock them out. Easy.
@@willemsteyn7808😂😂😂😂
@@willemsteyn7808New to rugby. 😂😂😂
@@willemsteyn7808This idiot again. Dont you watch the 6 nations? Lol
Dream on 😅
Ye all talk about South Africa like they were God's and unbeatable - You know Ireland don't care who you are, you will remember playing against them. I think the Ireland/SA game will be one of defense and as such will be a low scoring game.
The real question is, "Can the Springboks defence resist the superb Irish attack?“ 😉 Answer :No.
That's exactly what the Scots said 😂😂
What do you mean superb attack ? Like the one against the lame and injured? Ireland narrowly beat the Springboks last time round maybe this time it will be different 😅😅
We will put Ireland on sword
@@joseparedes5703
Comparing Scotland with Ireland, current grand slam champs and 13 wins in a row including wins against NZ, France and SA.
Less of the delusions pal.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@xman1533not with that pathetic rush defence you won't.
Boks 42 - 10 Ireland
Can’t WAIT to come back to this comment 😂😂😂
Put the drugs down and step away from the computer.
@@daggaboom Ahhh now ... Need to wait until I start!
@@LeMerch you will feel the impact of bomb squad 💥in second half like Scotland.
@@xman1533 your bomb squad will have to be even fitter than Irelands, we aren’t Scotland bud. We will move your big boys more than any other team for the full 80 minutes.
The big takeaway, having seen everybody in action now, is that Ireland can beat anyone. I am a lot more confident now. The erstwhile 'irresistable' Boks were held up by the brilliantly dogged Scots and while they still look very impressive yet, their rep has lost some of it's fear factor. Ireland can have confidence of beating them and topping the group, earning themselves the much preferred draw with an AB side in crisis in the QF's. Ireland's fitness was impressive against Romania and this will stand to them in an 80 minute wrangle with SA in cooler temperatures. While Romania was a training run, Ireland did brilliantly against a heavy team, opening space for forwards to score twelve tries. Total football! We can do this lads!
Now where have i heard this Mumbo Jumbo before ? Of course how silly of me it was from those big mouth Scots scoring 3 miserable points against the Boks and now the Irish are saying the same Mumbo Jumbo. We will do this and that bla bla bla .time will tell bunch of cry babies 🤣🤣🤣
Ireland beat Scotland 22-7 in the 6 Nations. 15pt difference. So, does that mean Ireland’s rep takes a dip. No, of course not. They’re a good side, so is Scotland. To be fair, I’m ok with you underestimating the Boks because that’s when they’re at their best. Anyway, two great sides should make for a proper test in 2 weeks time. Good luck.
Nobody underestimates the Boks! I meant a dip in the fear factor which the Boks caused in their demolition of the AB's. But I think the AB's are struggling, which is why whoever tops this group will likely meet and beat them. Scotland gave the Boks more of a game than the AB's did. @@brettmarkham2068
Have we strength in depth !!! to beat & stay in the game against the South Africans !!!. Once off , yes we can .
ireland first need to beat scotland too
No that game is after
yeah but they need to beat scotland to go through also@@randomuruk7230