Right. It didn’t seem believable that this high school football player and wrestler? Was afraid of him, with his group of friends right there, and then suddenly felt less afraid when a few women came over and started screaming at the man.
@@reynbowarc nope he never said he was scared LMFAO he had it under control, they attacked him so he he handled his business correctly as it should have been done!
Jahan Cockfield lit the match and fanned the flames, creating a mob mentality situation. These kids are not blameless. There is a lot of responsibility here.
They were so excited thought they had a male karen and wanted to make a viral video. These kids are the perfect example of the ignorance of mob mentality.
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
Totally. He was the first person to put his hands on them. Then he hit the woman. They definitely ALL should have known better than NOT allow him to put his insecure little hands all over them in whatever way he wanted. Had they only allowed him to continue mandhandling them; they would all still be there. The girl was turned around when she got stabbed btw.
He was the first person to put his hands on them. Then he hit the woman. Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation. You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
@@ResnulliaWhat were they afraid of? When I'm afraid I try to remove myself from the situation as quickly as possible. I don't stand there calling the person names and laughing at them.
@@michellestlicitra9105those kids should of known that if you gang up on someone then anything goes They asked for it and they got it lol Only cowards use numbers to bully
@@reynbowarc nah, thats what clout chasers do that grew up watching youtube reaction videos as their primary source of entertainment. Gotta get the reaction and your face in. People in genuine shock don't think with level of logic.
Here is something I wonder if anyone has pondered: the remark of “looking for little girls “ if it was actually said (since there is no recording of it and it’s their word against the defendants) has anyone thought that maybe the defendant was being sarcastic and calling those boys “the little girls “ ? 🤔
What about IT WAS A PACK LIE to justify frightening,bullying & hurting the DECENT victim …it clearly wasn’t said it’s ridiculous & they are ALL clearly lying to the extent that it’s painful to watch
No way that someone would make a statement of that nature to complete strangers. They lied and now their friend is passed away. I feel bad for Isaacs mother for her unnecessary loss and suffering.
First man to testify is a liar and a bully, completely instigated and cheered his friends on to goad and bully the defendant. Nobody should have resorted to violence, they are all in the wrong but I believe the defendant was scared and just trying to defend himself.
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
Isn't it weird how he says that the old many told him that he was looking for littler girls. He doesn't seem to know that no one on the planet believes that happened. It makes zero sense. Obvious lie and everyone realizes it but him.
@@kaylahahaha nah I wouldn't even put myself in that situatioin. I said they are all in the wrong. He deserved jail time for sure but the 'kids' also deserve to be punished. Bullying is not ok.
@@wyattcole5452 I'm suggesting the evidence doesn't support that seeing how their are multiple eye witness all in different groups that are saying the same thing.
@@88jeebsthere are certain people who believe that if someone is arrested and/or charged with a crime that they are guilty. People with blind faith in LE .
Exactly. Even if Miu is found guilty, this should be a lesson for people to mind their own business unless absolutely necessary AND to not escalate a situation even if they think they're in the "right"
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
Defendant ran up to them. He tells the cops he looked like a guy (like he didn't know what was going on). Said he didn't have a knife & that it was one of the kids knife- not "omg, they pulled a knife on me and attacked me & I stabbed some in self defense" the instant he saw the cops, or tell his friends he was attacked. Pretended not to know anyone was stabbed, and didn't seem concerned one bit when he was told one of the kids died. He threw the knife away. Just kept floating down the river like nothing happened. If that happened to me, I'd be finding my friends asap to tell them what happened, and if they didn't have a phone, I wouldn't leisurely float down the river. If I stabbed a few people, especially in self defense, I'd be freaking out.
I cant believe people think these kids are credible. Theyve all changed their story since the incident. Especially Dante. He tells the police on the day that dude punched and dropped one girl, and today now its completely different and a different girl. Its clear they got together and concocted a narrative. Absolutely ridiculous.
NM isn't so credible either. After he and his group floated down to the river's exit point, he walked right past a police officer in the parking lot without saying anything about what happened. When he was identified and questioned, he pretended not to know anything about the stabbing. He later told them that the young people all had knives and that he took one away from them.
It's how they get paid just like watching NFL game. It's annoying but a fact. Wouldn't be able to watch it for free without ads. Everyone would half to pay subscription fee then, or there's no channel to even watch then
@@ScoutsOut83 I understand why there's ads, but an ad every 5 minutes is excessive. This also isn't a sport, the trial is paid for by tax payers. This should be considered educational more than entertaining. There's a big difference between this and the NFL.
@@Mob4336 No they were going at him! Sorry they were all on him! They didn’t need to do what they did, and their actions calling a man a P RXXXIST who was just looking for a friends phone, then his his snorkel! If this had been a police officer more would’ve been killed! Maybe this is why kids shouldn’t drink until 21?
So why not go away? They would have stopped taunting him immediately... it is as simple as that. His reaction to some drunk teenagers calling him names - no matter which ones - is beyond my understanding. Especially for someone his age.
@@katjathefranknfurter2374 seee I think that too… no matter how rude or harassing someone is “sticks and stones” unfortunately freedom of speech as great as if is, isn’t always icecream and butterflies with nice words lol so he definitely didn’t need to bring a knife to a fist fight the same way you don’t “bring a g^n to a knife fight” .. I’m so back and forth with this one!! But it’s a shame all together
He was the first person to put his hands on 2 of them (you can't do that). Then he hit the woman (you can't do that). Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation. You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
@@BR-ex9xp they all said he punched the girl and she went down but the video showed different she was still standing there when they pushed him down in the water. Nowhere is there a single shred of evidence that he hit the girl first. The video actually shows different
Alcohol on both sides = impaired judgement on both sides. Except Nic was of age and had 6 beers while the kids were underage and likely drinking vodka seltzers so way more impaired on the kids side
These kids are colluding. None of them tell the cops that they heard him say he's "looking for little girls". Then a couple months before the trial a few of them suddenly say that he did. And it perfectly explains why they were harassing him and why they were saying all the things they said. Sure. This man that barely spoke to them, was actually looking for a phone (according to his friend that lost the phone), and is just minding his business is going to tell a group of teen boys that are harassing him that he's looking for little girls? Because that's what you do with a snorkel while looking for a phone, and there were zero little girls on the river there that day (defence stated and witnesses confirmed). The court needs to look at these kids' texts and call logs.
He was the first person to put his hands on them. Then he hit the woman. Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation. You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
It was all for clout and the sad part is someone died and another will probably go to prison for life all because they want to go viral smh this is the world we live in social media is the devil
@@melissa74066 they ( the boys were more interested in filming) were too drunk to realize one of the aggressors was underwater. Besides everybody wanted to punch the old guy, once of twice.
The teen are lying their butts off, they try to get their story straight, but it never works, they killed their friend by their actions, and being drunk when they shouldn’t have been drinking at all
They're kids for Gods sake. This Mans an Adult. A drunken Creeper Bully. This Guys gives no respect he s not going to get any. But they NEVER got out of their tubes till Maddie was hit. They couldve cleaned his clock easily but they didnt.
@@phyllis5241 I agree and he could’ve walked away and didn’t . A lady from another group even told him to go over there and he didn’t . I so seen a video of him coming to them at the beginning
Dante was the cause of it all! They lied and said Miu punched the girl yet at 1:02:57 she is standing there with her beer in her hands as Dante punches Mr.Miu the someone else slaps mr miu then another pushes him from behind then rushes at him agiain but catches steel to gut. Dante kicked off the physical aggression, Dante got isaac killed, Dante got a.j martin gutted
@@jackson9282I believe most on the jury have already decided on his innocence, just a formality from here on!! Unless there are a lunatic liberal or two on the jury that lack common sense!!
If her child hadn’t been drinking and smoking pot, and wasn’t a bully, maybe he would be still here today! As I said to others on this case, if this had been a police officer attacked this way more would’ve been killed! I feel for all involved,but a cautionary tale to others who would think that this behaviour was acceptable!
Yeah they like drama too much to mind their own business - they fanned the flames and the males died and suffered the wounds/ prison sentence. Same ___ different day.
He knows alcohol causes issues on the river, so he sends the folks drinking alcohol over to de-escalate the situation, and she goes over , gets in his face, yelling, cussing, and putting her hands in his face.... which escalates the situation into what eventually happens. nice....
That first kid is just making up his own narrative! I bet he’s never taken accountability for anything ever. Always the victim! He heated this all up! He should be held accountable for part of this! I’m shocked he passed hs.
They never surrounded him, they told him to leave multiple times and he had the space to do so- and HE started the confrontation. How in your mind does FAFO apply to stabbing several people over bullying?
So let me ask you just as a example scenario if you’re at a party and someone else is fighting near you and then someone in your group gets stabbed by one of them who was near them ….it’s ok? ….No right ? He was literally stabbing anyone in sight …3 different groups of people . The guy that punched him wasn’t even one of the people stabbed
Manslaughter? yes. First degree murder and attempted murder? No. Where was the pre meditation and intent? Prosecution brought the wrong charge for the situation
He took his knife out and was hiding it. There is your premeditation. Was is for self defense? Maybe. But he took his knife out and was hiding it, his intent was to kill. It would be different if he took his knife out, showed it and would be saying "I have a knife, stay back or I defend myself"
These were not bullied teens, that's a load of crap. 13 vs 1. Clearly, the teen witnesses are lying on the stand. He was "scared" with the man on the ground and 12 of his friends around him while he punched a guy his dad's age...seriously? It must be hard for 13 teens and their families to keep their bs stories together.
So he told you " hs was looking for little girls" why would he tell you, a perfect passerby stranger.....Dante...you should be in jail...for a long time
@@RichardCorongiu no, you are far too dense to understand this situation so why would i expect you to understand anything I say? I just wanted you to know tho. you're dense.
@@RichardCorongiu how do I explain this in simple terms to u. they never heard him say he was looking for little girls. they were making a joke that he was being a weirdo and looking under them for them. it was never a serious accusation and he never said he was. they were just making fun of him for being kind of weird.
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
This is going to be a tough one for the jurors because those teens were clearly instigating and also attacked him in water. However, he could've looked at it like here is a bunch of drunk troublemakers I am gonna just leave. This is a mess.
@@Emerica. He very easily could have walked away until the boys left that area. Or maybe when they ask what he's doing he could have responded and explained he was looking for a phone. When the girl had his arm and was directing him away... he should have left. He had plenty of opportunities to get out of there but he didn't... and if he was soooooo scared he should have.
@@Emerica.He was looking for his friends phone, which his friend didn’t even want him to look for. And they didn’t take his snorkel he lost it charging the teens tubes and touching their legs
I’ve never seen so many witnesses literally lie and basically admit it. How do they think changing testimony on the stand and admitting it is helpful to anyone? Sadly a teen lost his life because of alcohol and stupidity but it appears not me like a self defense case. They were all well past the legal limit for alcohol and drug use 😢Shame on the parents and adults that let them drink
I'm not saying guilty but also am not saying not guilty. The "witnesses" are a bit younger, so things said back then will mist definitely be different today. We need to not just listen, but also watch direct & cross on each witness to remotely understand what happened that day. But that last guy...it was evident hecwas lying his entire testimony
No, rather shame at the parents raising theis "children" with such a bad behaviour! I thing everyone at that age drinks behind the parents backs..in the US. The drinking age in Denmark is 16 but they drink way before that age. But these teens acted like a mob, it was very disturbing to watch! And the two boys playing American football were the worse. It seems like these foorballers are all acting with a certain entitlement?
@@keithgray5612Thank you! Why is everyone expecting them to have a perfect memory on the teenagers side? They were in shock on that day. They are not lying - they just don't remember everything they said two years ago shortly after a traumatic experience. Everybody's memory will change over time. The whole episode took only a couple of seconds to unfold and everything was happening all at once. If you think you have a perfect memory - it probably isn't true.
Am I the only one remembering he stabbed multiple people, killing one of them… teenagers are a holes, but people don’t run around killing them. Even if they don’t remember their initial statement, the video still is pretty clear
The defense is absolutely tearing apart these witnesses with this video and their incongruent testimony. They are not only helping to build this case of self-defense, but they are also simultaneously destroying their own credibility. Yikes. Prosecution needed to prepare their witnesses far better.
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
He was the first person to put his hands on 2 of them (you can't do that). Then he hit the woman (you can't do that). Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation. You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
Dante claims he tried to ask Miu what was going on and he didn't answer him. Where is that in the video?! Miu seems to try to talk to the blonde girl Madison but she immediately starts yelling and sticking her hands in his face. I don't even see a point where Dante could have asked him or Miu could have responded with all the yelling and cussing from the girls and the cackling and hooting from the teenagers
Man the chat is painful to watch. It's called manslaughter people... Of course he's not innocent, but this isn't murder. It's called manslaughter. If they brought those charges against him, he'd be guilty. Instead they brought "intentional homicide", which is pretty clear to not be the case. There's no way the jury is going to see him as hunting these kids down with the intent to murder someone. Also, there's a reason there's a minimum drinking age. Alcohol is an amplifier of the immaturity, impulsivity and hubris that basically makes a teenager what they are. People rarely grow out of these things by 21, but they generally have a better handle on it. The guy shouldn't get off, but this isn't the "random crazy guy attacks tubers" story the local news sold it as.
He should have kept walking away. He turned around and charged at kids and as an adult he should have known better. He killed someone and could have killed more than he did. He needs to be in jail.
@@mattg2306 I don't think we're necessarily in disagreement here, manslaughter is in fact a different charge than he is being tried for. Self-defense isn't a charge, it is a legal defense.
Those defense lawyers are awesome! Prosecution not so much! They’re constantly asking leading questions! Those kids were a bunch of little tough guys, or at least they thought they were! Did the mouthy blonde girl really get hit? I hope this man is found innocent. It’s clearly self defense!
@@Resnullia you don’t know that he approached them first! I’d almost bet they were antagonizing him BEFORE the recording started! The guy even said he started recording before Nic was weird. But seeing how much those kids have lied, im sure they started messing with him first. He was snorkeling and im sure because it was such shallow water to be snorkeling in, they probably popped off something rude and made fun of him. I think too that they held up a phone making him think it was the phone he was looking for. I think that’s why he ran to their tubes. I’d almost bet that the comment about looking for little girls actually came from those kids. Bet they said, “what are you looking for, little girls?” I sear if i was surrounded by that many people…i don’t care how old, or young they are…but if they put their hands on me as they did him…i’d defend myself anyway possible! I know i have a fear of drowning and that could’ve very easily happened to him when they pushed him down then started smacking on him. He very well could’ve panicked. Do you know it’s possible to drown on a 1/2 cup of water? I hate that a young man lost his life, and the others were hurt…but what gave them the right to bully the man?
This right here! This is what started all of it. The person filming was the one who started the bullying. But no accountability on the stand when he testified.
The more I watch this trial, the more it is obvious to me, these kids were attacking this man like a pack of wolves and he simply defended himself the only way he knew how. This man should be acquitted on all charges! The tape shows the truth. Ironically, had the kid not recorded this, it would have been the man’s word against this entire group. And he would have easily been convicted. The tape may end up clearing him…
*He ran up to them*, he was the ONLY one with a weapon, *he punched a girl first* who was trying to deescalate the situation. He is no victim of “bullying”. You understand what bullying means right?
@@gamervibes6454 The trial is what that's for. I'm seeing bits and pieces of self defense, but not a clear cut case. It could go either way, but the trial is warranted.
This kid learned a lesson, don't attack and attempt to drown people on the river. You might get hurt. He was big nuts willy and all about it when he and his friends thought there would be 0 consequences from their gang assault. He should be on trial for assaulting that man!
People need to realize folks are crazy and they walk amongst us…. Leave folks ALONE…..cuz u don’t know folks mental state and you don’t know who’s carrying a weapon
So… it looks like they ran up on the wrong guy that day. There were no little girls in sight and I believe Miu hit the blonde girl AFTER she put her hands on him. These kids were acting like fools and now their friend is dead😢. Sad but NOT GUILTY
They ran up on him? That’s where you’re mistaken and one of several reasons he is guilty. You don’t get to walk away and then come back because your poor feelers got hurt and subsequently stab people over words.
@@reynbowarc No, but those odds definitely increase when you shout disgusting abuse at a stranger then surround them to intimidate and humiliate them. Common sense really
Like the guy who goes home and tells his wife some kids took his knife and tried to stab him with it? The same guy that had no idea that a stabbing occurred (5x)? Yeah, he is the poster boy for courage I tell you what!!!
My family is from the midwest and I do believe that is a thing. I definitely recall hearing that term before to describe water depth. There’s actually quite a few fun midwestern terms.
@@lukewarme9121 after seeing the witnesses on the stand - some in college - I completely agree. Is yeah, Mmmm, nah, or yep any easier to say than Yes or No?
He was the first person to put his hands on them. Then he hit the woman. Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation. You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
@@XoxJasonReynoldsxoX How do you know he hit a woman? Do you really think he came over there to assault a group of 13 people? Doesn't pass the smell test.
I'm confused also? ? WHY was Miu SO FAR "D O W N" river, from HIS group? ? ? ? I thought I heard "once" from one of the witnesses the boys tubers were over at the bank in shallow water to GET OUT? ? They had "other" plans that day? ? @@melissa74066
That was a lie, he never said that..where is the alleged girl. Ariel the mermaid. There wasn’t even any kids present to begin with. They taunted that man. Where I’m from it’s called F around and find out
The older man went over to those kids and stayed around them untill the lady came out there then he proceeded to get into it with her he could have completely walked away and keep walking.
Why didn't THEY leave? He was walking in the water looking for something. Why didn't they float on by. Are you going to say they couldn't get by? They were rude to the older man, calling him names. They weren't afraid!
so he comes up with snorkel in hand, then loses it, then says hes there to find a snorke? why did he approach them in the first place and why didnt he communicate why he approached?
I will say, the kids did not communicate well or offer help to Mr. mui. that is a big problem had all of them offered assistance rather than attack, but these poor kids don't understand the f around and find out.
when we tube on the river we assist other tubers on the river anyways possible. sometimes people become tribal out on the water, its not a civilized reaction.but maybe a poor knee jerk reaction that goes on to escalate the situation
What? Who are you referring to? The state is presenting their case during this footage, and the defense gets to cross examine the witnesses. If you're referring to the jury they are unable to raise questions at this point in the trial.
Wow regardless of that kids actions he was still a young kid and didn't deserve to die the way he did, his friends did little to nothing to comfort him etc, and after his poor moms testimony everyone was so cold. No one extended their condolences. This whole thing though could have been avoided. Many people made many bad choices and it resulted in one young man dead. People need to be held accountable for things.
Maybe but that a question for the jury,,, Notice how they say "stabbing" this sound more like "slashing" which is a defensive movement when in context of being attacked,,,, maybe the autopsy will show stabbing,,, only time will tell if it does,,,
Several of the prosecutions witnesses have obviously lied/changed their testimony. If they are lying about 1 thing, the jury has to assume they are lying about everything. 5:53:19 Witness testifies when asked by prosecution what he had to drink. 6:12:02 Same witness caught lying when asked by defence how it is that his blood alcohol level was so high if what he testified he drank was true. He claims he was only asked about beer by prosecution. That wasn’t true. So far, there would be no way I would find defendant guilty. Not by a long shot.
Like how the guy went home and told his own wife some kids took his knife from him and tried to stab him with it? Like how he had no idea any stabbing had occurred when questioned by police? Yeah, lying about such things paints a pretty clear picture.....
@@annebosworth7048She had blood running from her side because he stabbed her with the weapon he hand in hand while he was being talked to, before he was ever touched. Is that enough?
@@notsorryyouretriggered more proof you haven't watched the trial. The woman who was stabbed was Rhyley Mattison. Madison Cohen is the woman who they say got punched
😷💢 Then why they joined in the gang bullied without finding out what's going on first? There is no witness or 'victim' but a bunch of accusers. The mom also as an adult not only try to investigate the matter first but ask the man to leave and allow her daughters to curse and swear at him. (The video show all proofs so thats is no excuse for that).
The teens are everything wrong with this generation. I know teens that are far better human beings because their parents insist on it. These kids should gain some insight and examine why they are so unkind.
Either his aggression was warranted because they put their hands on him AFTER he put his hands on them multiple times before punching her; or its ok only for CERTAIN people to put their hands on others. Which is it?
@@XoxJasonReynoldsxoXIt was so chaotic and everyone was in each other's space and screaming. What if he didn't punch her but simply raised his hands up to block or to push back a little bit because they were in his face? Think about when you're wrestling around with your sibling or whatever and sometimes you might accidentally hit them in the face or elbow them when you're just playing around but it certainly didn't mean that that was your goal
He was the first person to put his hands on 2 of them (you can't do that). Then he hit the woman (you can't do that). Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation. You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
@@BR-ex9xp He had it with him, as his friend asked him to bring it. Where do you see him walk up to them with a knife? He walked away after his one to two second contact with a tube, which appears to be because he thought they had their phone in the rest over to get it. But they followed him and taunted and followed, and got closer. He pulled it out as he saw more and more people coming over from another direction, the mob behind him, getting louder and closer.
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
I have watched 2 videos and i hope i didn't miss any other one, but it seeing all of the comments I'm so glad that I'm not a jury in a room on trying to determine who is right and who is wrong with all the people on here‼️The only thing that we could probably agree on is the young man didn't have to die.
Poor choices and bad associations, there you go. It's actually very simple when one breaks it down to logical means. Another term would be common sense, which is virtually dead in America today
Other people noticed and wondered what was happening. They had finished grade 11 at this time. Not graduated. Not in college. 17. The stabber was 54. What could someone say to you that would cause you to stab as many people as you could, walk away, tell your friends someone was stabbed, and try to leave.
@@vitalucas9452Exactly. And, look at how far he was from his group. As an adult, he should've walked away and not engaged them. In addition, the fact he tried to hide what he did/lies to his group AND to law enforcement, instead of calling the cops to report the incident he claims was "self-defense", says enough. He chose to murder. GUILTY!!!
@georgebitsanis2880 You are right. The stabber tried to accelerate the situation by standing around like a freak of nature, causing the second group to investigate.
This mom is truly devastated by her son's death. Those are not crocodile tears or an exaggeration for the jury. They are real and she is actually trying very hard to maintain composure. This is heartbreaking.
These kids are lucky that they dint drown him. They would all get atleast 20 yrs if he drowned under their assault. So this outcome is not as bad as it could have been for all of the kids except one. Dante and AJ should be charged w assault without question.
He was the first person to put his hands on them. Then he hit the woman. Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation. You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
I noticed how several of them used the same phrases. Or when they all said, "we went to get help from an adult." Bro, you know you consider yourself an adult."
They gave statements to police day of, which were all consistent, but nice try. Ever thought that their stories matched because, I don’t know, they all witnessed the same attack? And witnessing their friend die and their other friend get fing disemboweled was etched into their memory?
Then parents should teach their kids human decency. I’m sad the kid lost his life over it but I’m also sad that the man was made to feel that threatened by some disrespectful bullies. They acted horribly to this man as a GROUP. Sickening.
@@Incognito14141 Doesn’t matter though. Words don’t equate to taking someone’s life over. That’s “snowflake” behavior through and through. If you walk away, then walk away… don’t come back and stab folks and claim self-defense (after lying to the police). Any CCW holder with their salt will tell you not to try and flee the scene after a self-defense incident, let alone lie about your involvement.
I find this trial a sad state of affairs. First Miu should have never engaged with drunken high teenagers. He should have left. The witnesses all changed their stories after the event. Some of the testimony seems fabricated by prosecution witnesses. Miu was an adult he got himself in a mess then stabbed his way out. He is guilty of manslaughter.
So far I haven’t seen a video of them “screaming for help”
Right. It didn’t seem believable that this high school football player and wrestler? Was afraid of him, with his group of friends right there, and then suddenly felt less afraid when a few women came over and started screaming at the man.
haven't seen Mr Miu asking for help either. huh.
@@reynbowarc The kids couldn’t even hear what he said due to their shouting.
@@reynbowarc Men deal with their own problems, and these bullies found out
@@reynbowarc nope he never said he was scared LMFAO he had it under control, they attacked him so he he handled his business correctly as it should have been done!
The defense is eating these witnesses up.
Jahan Cockfield lit the match and fanned the flames, creating a mob mentality situation. These kids are not blameless. There is a lot of responsibility here.
17-24yo are not kids!
17 is legally a child. Most were 17. @@aakasoto
@@travisabr1294 So what? Teenagers do horrific things every single day. Especially when they in a mob with their disgusting friends.
They even lied about the man
@@aakasoto26 is when ur brain fully develops anyway, and they’re acting worse than many actual kids
All These teens saying they were scared of him but the video says differently
Don’t laugh at and antagonize someone who supposedly scares you.
They were so excited thought they had a male karen and wanted to make a viral video. These kids are the perfect example of the ignorance of mob mentality.
he was making them nervous, he's an adult and they were kids
If this guy was such a creep why didn't they just get away from him
@@tmk87154"Kids"...17-24yo are kids to you??
These were bullies who messed with the wrong guy. It’s clear they were entertaining themselves by antagonizing this guy.
yup yup
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
Totally. He was the first person to put his hands on them. Then he hit the woman. They definitely ALL should have known better than NOT allow him to put his insecure little hands all over them in whatever way he wanted. Had they only allowed him to continue mandhandling them; they would all still be there. The girl was turned around when she got stabbed btw.
He was the first person to put his hands on them. Then he hit the woman. Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation.
You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
But the "Adults" claiming to help are the ones who escalated this entire situation.
Yeah it really looks like they were scared when they were following him, filming him, calling him names and laughing.
You’ve never seen how scared teenage boys act in a group. He still approached them first and started the physical confrontation
@@ResnulliaWhat were they afraid of? When I'm afraid I try to remove myself from the situation as quickly as possible. I don't stand there calling the person names and laughing at them.
This grown man could have walked away at any time😡😡😡
@@Resnullia FAFO lil girl!
@@michellestlicitra9105those kids should of known that if you gang up on someone then anything goes
They asked for it and they got it lol
Only cowards use numbers to bully
Taking selfies while his friend dying. Says a lot.
he was already recording and he turned his phone around. he was obviously in shock. karen
@@reynbowarcNah, homeboy is a punk and was a catalyst for his friend’s death.
@@reynbowarc nah, thats what clout chasers do that grew up watching youtube reaction videos as their primary source of entertainment. Gotta get the reaction and your face in. People in genuine shock don't think with level of logic.
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@@reynbowarcshock from what?
Here is something I wonder if anyone has pondered: the remark of “looking for little girls “ if it was actually said (since there is no recording of it and it’s their word against the defendants) has anyone thought that maybe the defendant was being sarcastic and calling those boys “the little girls “ ? 🤔
I had that exact thought!
What about IT WAS A PACK LIE to justify frightening,bullying & hurting the DECENT victim …it clearly wasn’t said it’s ridiculous & they are ALL clearly lying to the extent that it’s painful to watch
No way that someone would make a statement of that nature to complete strangers. They lied and now their friend is passed away. I feel bad for Isaacs mother for her unnecessary loss and suffering.
Me too? ? I "thought" it was teens/young adults. . .slang words. . .only their associates/friends knew the meaning to ? ? @@Dixie11.11
They already admitted they just said that to taunt him. He never said anything about any girls. You ppl sound dem**ted.
These are some of the best defense attorneys I've ever seen.
Theyre Bullies given a Free hand to Badger witnesses
they really put the prosecution on trial
Free market, vs. gov'ment employees. The intelligence difference is a wide gap!
@@johnswanson3741and the truth
First man to testify is a liar and a bully, completely instigated and cheered his friends on to goad and bully the defendant. Nobody should have resorted to violence, they are all in the wrong but I believe the defendant was scared and just trying to defend himself.
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
Isn't it weird how he says that the old many told him that he was looking for littler girls. He doesn't seem to know that no one on the planet believes that happened. It makes zero sense. Obvious lie and everyone realizes it but him.
Oh do you also walk away and then decide to run toward groups of people that are (sitting down) yelling at you in order to defend yourself?
@@kaylahahaha nah I wouldn't even put myself in that situatioin. I said they are all in the wrong. He deserved jail time for sure but the 'kids' also deserve to be punished. Bullying is not ok.
The problem with lying is remembering all your lies.
And relying on a lack of evidence that refutes their claims
But the man is literally the one who lied and put a whole disguise on lol he didn't even think he was in the right.
@@jacobbrosch4505wdym, “the one”, are you suggesting the teens didn’t lie? 😂
@@wyattcole5452 I'm suggesting the evidence doesn't support that seeing how their are multiple eye witness all in different groups that are saying the same thing.
@@jacobbrosch4505 like what? They still lied
Do prosecutors normally have someone coaching them through everything they do? That hot mic is driving me crazy 😂
Looks like the prosecutor needs the coaching...
Yes
The defense's cross examination was brutal, the defendant hired extremely talented counsel.
Absolutely
And somehow people still think these kids are credible. They've all changed their stories and they've all got caught lying on the stand.
@@88jeebsthere are certain people who believe that if someone is arrested and/or charged with a crime that they are guilty. People with blind faith in LE .
Well the defense attorney already got one murderer set free before so we shall see what happens here
Imagine if he were poor and had a public defender?
Almost everyone involved in this thing is terrible. This is an awful lesson in minding your own business.
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Exactly. Even if Miu is found guilty, this should be a lesson for people to mind their own business unless absolutely necessary AND to not escalate a situation even if they think they're in the "right"
@mattg2306 if he is found guilty that would prove the whole system is rigged
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
@@Kevin_40 you just told a bunch of lies
He said he was "looking for little girls"? Sure buddy.
This judge reminds me of the actor that was in Night Court
Harry Anderson 😂
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I thought same thing.! i even googled Harry Anderson-to refresh my memory image on Day 1 of the trial.
Defendant ran up to them. He tells the cops he looked like a guy (like he didn't know what was going on). Said he didn't have a knife & that it was one of the kids knife- not "omg, they pulled a knife on me and attacked me & I stabbed some in self defense" the instant he saw the cops, or tell his friends he was attacked. Pretended not to know anyone was stabbed, and didn't seem concerned one bit when he was told one of the kids died. He threw the knife away. Just kept floating down the river like nothing happened. If that happened to me, I'd be finding my friends asap to tell them what happened, and if they didn't have a phone, I wouldn't leisurely float down the river. If I stabbed a few people, especially in self defense, I'd be freaking out.
I cant believe people think these kids are credible. Theyve all changed their story since the incident. Especially Dante. He tells the police on the day that dude punched and dropped one girl, and today now its completely different and a different girl. Its clear they got together and concocted a narrative. Absolutely ridiculous.
The kids were in shock. Geese didn’t you hear the shock.
@Pat_Speaks 😂🤣😂🤣 ya in shock when they made up he said something about little girls, in shock when they assaulted him. Give me a break. FAFO
@Pat_Speaks and no I didn't hear anything about "geese" either.
NM isn't so credible either. After he and his group floated down to the river's exit point, he walked right past a police officer in the parking lot without saying anything about what happened. When he was identified and questioned, he pretended not to know anything about the stabbing. He later told them that the young people all had knives and that he took one away from them.
@@88jeebs you are dense asf
They're not kids, they're young adults..
17 is a kid. Young adults are 18-23ish.
I only recall that the one that died was 17, the others were older?
@@johnswanson3741 no they were all 17 at the time, the boys in Isaac’s group anyway. They are 18 and 19 now as it’s nearly 2 years later.
@@StarkJerk17 is a teen...12 and under is a kid
@@williammora88 minors are all minors.
No-one would have been stabbed if group B with the hero complex didn’t step in to escalate the aggression.
No one would've been stabbed if the defendant didn't pull out his knife
“Marihuana?”
“Yes please”
The amount of ads run on this video is criminal.
Get a job and pay for a subscription.
@@Yoduh1I have a job, and no.
It's how they get paid just like watching NFL game. It's annoying but a fact. Wouldn't be able to watch it for free without ads. Everyone would half to pay subscription fee then, or there's no channel to even watch then
@@ScoutsOut83 I understand why there's ads, but an ad every 5 minutes is excessive. This also isn't a sport, the trial is paid for by tax payers. This should be considered educational more than entertaining. There's a big difference between this and the NFL.
@@savageone3195😂
I do feel bad for the victims but they totally ganged up on him
Do you realized that every one he stabbed was not together…
@@Mob4336 No they were going at him! Sorry they were all on him! They didn’t need to do what they did, and their actions calling a man a P RXXXIST who was just looking for a friends phone, then his his snorkel! If this had been a police officer more would’ve been killed! Maybe this is why kids shouldn’t drink until 21?
Same lisa!! Same!
So why not go away? They would have stopped taunting him immediately... it is as simple as that. His reaction to some drunk teenagers calling him names - no matter which ones - is beyond my understanding. Especially for someone his age.
@@katjathefranknfurter2374 seee I think that too… no matter how rude or harassing someone is “sticks and stones” unfortunately freedom of speech as great as if is, isn’t always icecream and butterflies with nice words lol so he definitely didn’t need to bring a knife to a fist fight the same way you don’t “bring a g^n to a knife fight” .. I’m so back and forth with this one!! But it’s a shame all together
These guys attacked this man first, they screamed and cried like “little girls” after. They should locked up, not the man.
Ok tough guy. You’re a sicko.
He punched the girl in the face and was holding out a knife at this point. He also approached the group and wouldn’t leave.
He was the first person to put his hands on 2 of them (you can't do that). Then he hit the woman (you can't do that). Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation.
You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
@@BR-ex9xp they all said he punched the girl and she went down but the video showed different she was still standing there when they pushed him down in the water. Nowhere is there a single shred of evidence that he hit the girl first. The video actually shows different
They screamed and laughed …. Ok so?
Mob Mentality.
Mr. Miu should have walked away, but these kids were verbally harassing him. Sad situation all around.
Alcohol on both sides = impaired judgement on both sides. Except Nic was of age and had 6 beers while the kids were underage and likely drinking vodka seltzers so way more impaired on the kids side
The mob admitted to surrounding him.
These kids are colluding. None of them tell the cops that they heard him say he's "looking for little girls". Then a couple months before the trial a few of them suddenly say that he did. And it perfectly explains why they were harassing him and why they were saying all the things they said. Sure.
This man that barely spoke to them, was actually looking for a phone (according to his friend that lost the phone), and is just minding his business is going to tell a group of teen boys that are harassing him that he's looking for little girls? Because that's what you do with a snorkel while looking for a phone, and there were zero little girls on the river there that day (defence stated and witnesses confirmed).
The court needs to look at these kids' texts and call logs.
I bet they have a Snapchat group
He was the first person to put his hands on them. Then he hit the woman. Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation.
You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
It was all for clout and the sad part is someone died and another will probably go to prison for life all because they want to go viral smh this is the world we live in social media is the devil
This guy sees his friend dying under water & his first reaction is to turn his phone around to get a SELFIE of his facial reaction! SELFISH FRIEND!!
It is about filming yourself rather than giving cpr and helping the man that was underwater.
I also don’t think for a second that he was scared of Mr. Miu
Right. None of those boys appeared to try to help Issac at all.
@@melissa74066 they ( the boys were more interested in filming) were too drunk to realize one of the aggressors was underwater. Besides everybody wanted to punch the old guy, once of twice.
@@georgebitsanis2880 the Asian male was so scared that he was laughing on the video or too drunk and high to realize he was scared.
The teen are lying their butts off, they try to get their story straight, but it never works, they killed their friend by their actions, and being drunk when they shouldn’t have been drinking at all
I think you meant "teens?"
@@thenightporter fixed
They are young adults, and public drunk is also a crime. Let's see them get convicted of their self-admitted crimes after this kangaroo court ends.
Their actions killed their friend? Pretty sure none of them had a knife, how did their words stab Issac in the chest?
All these young men scared, but continue to antagonize. Recipe for disaster.
They're kids for Gods sake. This Mans an Adult. A drunken Creeper Bully.
This Guys gives no respect he s not going to get any. But they NEVER got out of their tubes till Maddie was hit. They couldve cleaned his clock easily but they didnt.
@@phyllis5241 I agree and he could’ve walked away and didn’t . A lady from another group even told him to go over there and he didn’t . I so seen a video of him coming to them at the beginning
Where did you see this video?
They were scared and it was 6 to 1 and then became 17 to 1. I'd be scared too
@@phyllis5241You sound like a child yourself.
Dante was a mess of a witness.
Trying to act accountable and sincere when he is nothing but that!!!
Dante was the cause of it all! They lied and said Miu punched the girl yet at 1:02:57 she is standing there with her beer in her hands as Dante punches Mr.Miu the someone else slaps mr miu then another pushes him from behind then rushes at him agiain but catches steel to gut. Dante kicked off the physical aggression, Dante got isaac killed, Dante got a.j martin gutted
I wonder what those teenagers will teach their future children about bullying.
I bet This is a very hard jury to be on.
I AGREE {SAD} ! I wouldn't want to be ON that jury {SAD} !
Ditto to both comments!
Gonna come down to who attacked first and if they view the aggressor being falsely imprisoned or assaulted before he took action.
FAFO- Too Easy
@@jackson9282I believe most on the jury have already decided on his innocence, just a formality from here on!! Unless there are a lunatic liberal or two on the jury that lack common sense!!
Listening to Isaac’s mom testify was heartbreaking. Her grief was palpable. 😢
Yes!!! but DOES NOT belong in a courtroom
@@jilleejillee1058 I agree completely! IMO that was a tactic by the State to get jury sympathy.
@@jilleejillee1058 Shame on you
@@michellededmon6711 BS Moms testimony shows this Monster took a life that meant something. He took her childs life. She watched her son die
If her child hadn’t been drinking and smoking pot, and wasn’t a bully, maybe he would be still here today! As I said to others on this case, if this had been a police officer attacked this way more would’ve been killed! I feel for all involved,but a cautionary tale to others who would think that this behaviour was acceptable!
I bet those "KAREN'S" will mind their own business from now on 🎉
I doubt it. They are all a bunch of liars.
Once a meth head, always a meth head. Those tattoos tell a story about a females mental attitude
Yeah they like drama too much to mind their own business - they fanned the flames and the males died and suffered the wounds/ prison sentence. Same ___ different day.
Is there a way to tell if the teens got charged with public intoxication?
I don’t think they were charged with anything.
Worthless attorney general
Public intoxication? How about underage drinking ? How did they even get all that alcohol?
He knows alcohol causes issues on the river, so he sends the folks drinking alcohol over to de-escalate the situation, and she goes over , gets in his face, yelling, cussing, and putting her hands in his face.... which escalates the situation into what eventually happens. nice....
That first kid is just making up his own narrative! I bet he’s never taken accountability for anything ever. Always the victim! He heated this all up! He should be held accountable for part of this! I’m shocked he passed hs.
Seems like a case of F around and find out. They surrounded him, taunted him, put their hands on him, pushed him in the water, like 8 against 1
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They never surrounded him, they told him to leave multiple times and he had the space to do so- and HE started the confrontation. How in your mind does FAFO apply to stabbing several people over bullying?
So let me ask you just as a example scenario if you’re at a party and someone else is fighting near you and then someone in your group gets stabbed by one of them who was near them ….it’s ok? ….No right ? He was literally stabbing anyone in sight …3 different groups of people . The guy that punched him wasn’t even one of the people stabbed
@@Mob4336guy that punched him in yellow shorts 🩳 did get stabbed but he lived has like 12” open cut
Hey little girl watch you language
Manslaughter? yes.
First degree murder and attempted murder? No. Where was the pre meditation and intent?
Prosecution brought the wrong charge for the situation
Though I do understand why you say manslaughter honestly, it leans more towards felony murder, if you think about the facts of the case
He pulled that knife out way before there was any physical violence. That shows intent.
@@8_bruh_8Agree!💯
He took his knife out and was hiding it. There is your premeditation. Was is for self defense? Maybe. But he took his knife out and was hiding it, his intent was to kill. It would be different if he took his knife out, showed it and would be saying "I have a knife, stay back or I defend myself"
@@8_bruh_8no it don't show intent he was warning them but they still attacked him..was he supposed to let the mob kill him..
I really believed that one kid who got stabbed until he said no one asked him about drinking hard liquor. So obnoxious.
These were not bullied teens, that's a load of crap. 13 vs 1. Clearly, the teen witnesses are lying on the stand. He was "scared" with the man on the ground and 12 of his friends around him while he punched a guy his dad's age...seriously? It must be hard for 13 teens and their families to keep their bs stories together.
Mother's little child.....thx for nothing, mom! Looks like you failed big time on properly raising your child!!!!! Democrats!
So he told you " hs was looking for little girls" why would he tell you, a perfect passerby stranger.....Dante...you should be in jail...for a long time
you are dense
@@reynbowarc that all you gotta say ? Say something less dense
@@RichardCorongiu no, you are far too dense to understand this situation so why would i expect you to understand anything I say? I just wanted you to know tho. you're dense.
@@RichardCorongiu how do I explain this in simple terms to u. they never heard him say he was looking for little girls. they were making a joke that he was being a weirdo and looking under them for them. it was never a serious accusation and he never said he was. they were just making fun of him for being kind of weird.
But this is even more perverse... smartarse blokes MAKING CLAIMS about someone the don't even f$#%king know
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
Wtf are you talking about?
This is going to be a tough one for the jurors because those teens were clearly instigating and also attacked him in water. However, he could've looked at it like here is a bunch of drunk troublemakers I am gonna just leave. This is a mess.
Yeah he was looking for his phone tho and then they took his snorkel. So 🤷♀️
Mob Mentality.
Mr. Miu should have walked away, but these kids were verbally harassing him. Sad situation all around.
@@Emerica. He very easily could have walked away until the boys left that area. Or maybe when they ask what he's doing he could have responded and explained he was looking for a phone. When the girl had his arm and was directing him away... he should have left. He had plenty of opportunities to get out of there but he didn't... and if he was soooooo scared he should have.
Probably easy because their testimony have been very inconsistent.
@@Emerica.He was looking for his friends phone, which his friend didn’t even want him to look for. And they didn’t take his snorkel he lost it charging the teens tubes and touching their legs
I’ve never seen so many witnesses literally lie and basically admit it. How do they think changing testimony on the stand and admitting it is helpful to anyone?
Sadly a teen lost his life because of alcohol and stupidity but it appears not me like a self defense case. They were all well past the legal limit for alcohol and drug use 😢Shame on the parents and adults that let them drink
@Butterflies...!! I SOOOO AGREE WITH YOU !! Thank-you!
I'm not saying guilty but also am not saying not guilty. The "witnesses" are a bit younger, so things said back then will mist definitely be different today. We need to not just listen, but also watch direct & cross on each witness to remotely understand what happened that day. But that last guy...it was evident hecwas lying his entire testimony
No, rather shame at the parents raising theis "children" with such a bad behaviour! I thing everyone at that age drinks behind the parents backs..in the US. The drinking age in Denmark is 16 but they drink way before that age. But these teens acted like a mob, it was very disturbing to watch! And the two boys playing American football were the worse. It seems like these foorballers are all acting with a certain entitlement?
@@keithgray5612Thank you! Why is everyone expecting them to have a perfect memory on the teenagers side? They were in shock on that day. They are not lying - they just don't remember everything they said two years ago shortly after a traumatic experience.
Everybody's memory will change over time. The whole episode took only a couple of seconds to unfold and everything was happening all at once. If you think you have a perfect memory - it probably isn't true.
@@kabra72 They’re definitely acting with a lot of entitlement. 💯
Am I the only one remembering he stabbed multiple people, killing one of them… teenagers are a holes, but people don’t run around killing them. Even if they don’t remember their initial statement, the video still is pretty clear
Exactly. Not to mention the defendant threw the first punch and though outnumbered, somehow walked away without a scratch.
The "still" pics really distort what happens in the "live" video.... BIG difference
The defense is absolutely tearing apart these witnesses with this video and their incongruent testimony. They are not only helping to build this case of self-defense, but they are also simultaneously destroying their own credibility. Yikes. Prosecution needed to prepare their witnesses far better.
100% self defense.
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
He was the first person to put his hands on 2 of them (you can't do that). Then he hit the woman (you can't do that). Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation.
You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
Dante claims he tried to ask Miu what was going on and he didn't answer him. Where is that in the video?! Miu seems to try to talk to the blonde girl Madison but she immediately starts yelling and sticking her hands in his face. I don't even see a point where Dante could have asked him or Miu could have responded with all the yelling and cussing from the girls and the cackling and hooting from the teenagers
He was looking for his phone. Those kids are some creepy mfers
Man the chat is painful to watch. It's called manslaughter people... Of course he's not innocent, but this isn't murder. It's called manslaughter. If they brought those charges against him, he'd be guilty. Instead they brought "intentional homicide", which is pretty clear to not be the case. There's no way the jury is going to see him as hunting these kids down with the intent to murder someone.
Also, there's a reason there's a minimum drinking age. Alcohol is an amplifier of the immaturity, impulsivity and hubris that basically makes a teenager what they are. People rarely grow out of these things by 21, but they generally have a better handle on it. The guy shouldn't get off, but this isn't the "random crazy guy attacks tubers" story the local news sold it as.
He should have kept walking away. He turned around and charged at kids and as an adult he should have known better. He killed someone and could have killed more than he did. He needs to be in jail.
It's called self defense actually.
The OP worded this whole situation PERFECTLY!!!!
No, it's called self defense. Manslaughter is actually a completely different charge.
@@mattg2306 I don't think we're necessarily in disagreement here, manslaughter is in fact a different charge than he is being tried for. Self-defense isn't a charge, it is a legal defense.
The fact that all these witnesses were drunk and/or high- and changing their stories is leading to some doubt.
The defendant has also changed his story, I would think that’s what trauma does to a person.
I've learned in life to ALWAYS question the correctness of statements from women and children!!!!
@@johnswanson3741 Because men are famous for their truth telling 🤦🏼♀️
Those defense lawyers are awesome! Prosecution not so much! They’re constantly asking leading questions! Those kids were a bunch of little tough guys, or at least they thought they were! Did the mouthy blonde girl really get hit? I hope this man is found innocent. It’s clearly self defense!
It’s absolutely loony to justify stabbing a bunch of people for bullying AFTER you approach them and start a confrontation.
@@Resnullia you don’t know that he approached them first! I’d almost bet they were antagonizing him BEFORE the recording started! The guy even said he started recording before Nic was weird. But seeing how much those kids have lied, im sure they started messing with him first. He was snorkeling and im sure because it was such shallow water to be snorkeling in, they probably popped off something rude and made fun of him. I think too that they held up a phone making him think it was the phone he was looking for. I think that’s why he ran to their tubes. I’d almost bet that the comment about looking for little girls actually came from those kids. Bet they said, “what are you looking for, little girls?” I sear if i was surrounded by that many people…i don’t care how old, or young they are…but if they put their hands on me as they did him…i’d defend myself anyway possible! I know i have a fear of drowning and that could’ve very easily happened to him when they pushed him down then started smacking on him. He very well could’ve panicked. Do you know it’s possible to drown on a 1/2 cup of water? I hate that a young man lost his life, and the others were hurt…but what gave them the right to bully the man?
@@cindymarie67 crazy how he didn't ask for help at all tho right he just started slashing
@cindymarie67 "I think", "I'm sure", "I'd almost bet". Scary that people with this level of critical thinking are allowed to serve on a jury.
The erratic behavior of the teen filming escalated the entire situation from start to finish.
This right here! This is what started all of it. The person filming was the one who started the bullying. But no accountability on the stand when he testified.
Messed up
But yet the reason you even have any evidence for a trial is due to that video. Yeah your welcome 🤦♀️
Yeah, the 11th grader that filmed everything is responsible for stabbing five people and killing one. 🤦
Agreed, he's egging his peers, and those around him on.
The more I watch this trial, the more it is obvious to me, these kids were attacking this man like a pack of wolves and he simply defended himself the only way he knew how. This man should be acquitted on all charges! The tape shows the truth.
Ironically, had the kid not recorded this, it would have been the man’s word against this entire group. And he would have easily been convicted. The tape may end up clearing him…
💯
had the kid not recorded this, Miu would have got away with mordor
Who threw the first punch?
I think we all know what is going on here folks.1+1 does not equal 5
In a female's world, 1+1 does not necessarily add up to 2. My experience in 70 yrs of life.
@@johnswanson3741 what are you babbling about dude
judge have some balls and dismmiss the whole case
This person on the stand now seems to be changing stories with large amount of regularity.
What a surprise, escalator Madison Cohen is too cowardly to show her face.
((Cohen))
“For the Culture” ..equals .. “this is for clicks “ put it online to show how we bullied … didn’t work so well kids
This comment 👏🏻👏🏻
*He ran up to them*, he was the ONLY one with a weapon, *he punched a girl first* who was trying to deescalate the situation. He is no victim of “bullying”. You understand what bullying means right?
@@rationalskeptic1 Doesn't sound like she was trying to de-escalate the situation..her yelling in his face escalated the situation.
@@mnwm9300 ya know what else escalated the situation? whipping out a weapon
@@reynbowarc you must've missed the part where he was outnumbered repeatedly getting assaulted. Seems like a major detail to overlook 🤔
If a Group of people atk you and h1t you You have the right to protct yourself. Don't let anyone tell you differently.
Dante looks like a bully from an 80s teen movie.
Useless comment. Touch grass.
@@ZeroPhilosopher you must support bullying
This comment section is wild. To say this man shouldn't have even been arrested is pure insanity.
Def arrested, but released after the obvious case of self defense has been established.
@@gamervibes6454 The trial is what that's for. I'm seeing bits and pieces of self defense, but not a clear cut case. It could go either way, but the trial is warranted.
Self defense. The witnesses contradict their original statements over and over. 13 vs 1.
Ah, but Mr Mui's original statement was so truthful, right?
Kids even if you feel bullied, don’t make a temporary problem a permanent problem
Who was being bullied here ?
The kids were the bullies
That is exactly what a not guilty verdict would encourage... massive escalation
@@RichardCorongiu did the kids have weapons? Did they kill anyone or even seriously injure anyone?
Men... Even if you feel bullied by a few 17 year olds... Don't make a temporary problem a permanent problem. 🤦🏻♀️
This kid learned a lesson, don't attack and attempt to drown people on the river. You might get hurt. He was big nuts willy and all about it when he and his friends thought there would be 0 consequences from their gang assault. He should be on trial for assaulting that man!
People need to realize folks are crazy and they walk amongst us…. Leave folks ALONE…..cuz u don’t know folks mental state and you don’t know who’s carrying a weapon
So… it looks like they ran up on the wrong guy that day. There were no little girls in sight and I believe Miu hit the blonde girl AFTER she put her hands on him. These kids were acting like fools and now their friend is dead😢. Sad but NOT GUILTY
They ran up on him? That’s where you’re mistaken and one of several reasons he is guilty. You don’t get to walk away and then come back because your poor feelers got hurt and subsequently stab people over words.
100% agree
HE approached THEM
So that gives him the Right to punch her ? And then stab anyone in sight???? NO
@@TitaniumTurbineHe stabbed people after he was attacked, not over words...just saying.
Seeing all the blood and the victims reaction laying in the water is so sad. I feel for all of them. They will forever be traumatized
Not like they didn’t ask for it! Very awful brats with poor parenting!
@@Juke582 disgusting response. no one asks to be stabbed
@@reynbowarc
No, but those odds definitely increase when you shout disgusting abuse at a stranger then surround them to intimidate and humiliate them. Common sense really
@@Juke582 you’re a sicko if you’re gonna stab a 17 yo girl for getting in your face after you went over to her
@@adamski6312Common sense is dead in America, proven by these young adults actions and responses on the stand
They have Selective memory these cowards.
Like the guy who goes home and tells his wife some kids took his knife and tried to stab him with it? The same guy that had no idea that a stabbing occurred (5x)? Yeah, he is the poster boy for courage I tell you what!!!
@@XoxJasonReynoldsxoX Like the guys who attack in a mob of 12 to feel confident, then lie about it on the stand
The guy yelling "you got 10 seconds!" was Isaac.
the irony
Two witnesses have described the water as ‘short’ when I think they mean shallow. Is that a Wisconsin thing?
Also if the water is indeed so short how was he snorkeling to " look at girls " 💀
The boys are from Minnesota
My family is from the midwest and I do believe that is a thing. I definitely recall hearing that term before to describe water depth. There’s actually quite a few fun midwestern terms.
Today’s public education is lacking
@@lukewarme9121 after seeing the witnesses on the stand - some in college - I completely agree. Is yeah, Mmmm, nah, or yep any easier to say than Yes or No?
I want to know what the girl said in her testimony.. it was cut out due to her not wanting to be on the live stream earlier..
The defense is incredible.
tragic event , however the young kids brought on the actions of the older man ..............Period
He was the first person to put his hands on them. Then he hit the woman. Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation.
You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
@@XoxJasonReynoldsxoX How do you know he hit a woman? Do you really think he came over there to assault a group of 13 people? Doesn't pass the smell test.
Yeah. A strange man just tells him he is looking for little girls. That is so believable.
I know right. Like some random guy is gonna go up to 6 boys and ask about little girls. Makes no sense.
I'm confused also? ? WHY was Miu SO FAR "D O W N" river, from HIS group? ? ? ? I thought I heard "once" from one of the witnesses the boys tubers were over at the bank in shallow water to GET OUT? ? They had "other" plans that day? ? @@melissa74066
@@crystalhanson1483he was looking for his friends phone they had dropped.
That was a lie, he never said that..where is the alleged girl. Ariel the mermaid. There wasn’t even any kids present to begin with. They taunted that man. Where I’m from it’s called F around and find out
@@EmmaLouxoxo so you in fact cannot stab people when they say stuff you don't like. hope this clears some stuff up for you
crying now … you were not then you were laughing
The older man went over to those kids and stayed around them untill the lady came out there then he proceeded to get into it with her he could have completely walked away and keep walking.
Watch the video he tried to walk away they followed him
Its a river you cant walk down stream and expect people to not float down after you
Why didn't THEY leave? He was walking in the water looking for something. Why didn't they float on by. Are you going to say they couldn't get by? They were rude to the older man, calling him names. They weren't afraid!
You must not have watched the entire video
@@annebosworth7048 that’s not true he was able to walk away then he came back .
Video out the gate I believe will constitute self defense to a degree. I’m sure all involved have deep regret about this. So sad for everyone.
No truer words spoken....
I agree, ugh alcohol I feel played a large part as well
I don’t think they’ll have regret. I believe they think they did nothing wrong. That they are the victims.
so he comes up with snorkel in hand, then loses it, then says hes there to find a snorke? why did he approach them in the first place and why didnt he communicate why he approached?
I will say, the kids did not communicate well or offer help to Mr. mui. that is a big problem had all of them offered assistance rather than attack, but these poor kids don't understand the f around and find out.
when we tube on the river we assist other tubers on the river anyways possible. sometimes people become tribal out on the water, its not a civilized reaction.but maybe a poor knee jerk reaction that goes on to escalate the situation
Why didn't anyone wonder what happened prior to the video?
What? Who are you referring to? The state is presenting their case during this footage, and the defense gets to cross examine the witnesses. If you're referring to the jury they are unable to raise questions at this point in the trial.
hearsay
Wow regardless of that kids actions he was still a young kid and didn't deserve to die the way he did, his friends did little to nothing to comfort him etc, and after his poor moms testimony everyone was so cold. No one extended their condolences. This whole thing though could have been avoided. Many people made many bad choices and it resulted in one young man dead. People need to be held accountable for things.
I was shocked when prosecutor said now you’re a stay at home mom. I saw her flinch and I get it.
@@traveltmcourtroom antics & deliberate ..discusting but no doubt their case is soooo bad they needed a grieving mother 😡
Maybe but that a question for the jury,,, Notice how they say "stabbing" this sound more like "slashing" which is a defensive movement when in context of being attacked,,,, maybe the autopsy will show stabbing,,, only time will tell if it does,,,
@@traveltm That was f----d Up
@@jilleejillee1058 Some people have zero Humanity
Several of the prosecutions witnesses have obviously lied/changed their testimony. If they are lying about 1 thing, the jury has to assume they are lying about everything.
5:53:19 Witness testifies when asked by prosecution what he had to drink.
6:12:02 Same witness caught lying when asked by defence how it is that his blood alcohol level was so high if what he testified he drank was true. He claims he was only asked about beer by prosecution. That wasn’t true.
So far, there would be no way I would find defendant guilty. Not by a long shot.
Yoinks
Like how the guy went home and told his own wife some kids took his knife from him and tried to stab him with it? Like how he had no idea any stabbing had occurred when questioned by police? Yeah, lying about such things paints a pretty clear picture.....
@@XoxJasonReynoldsxoX and where exactly is that source of information? That he lied.
@@marinecorp179In his police statements and interviews....
“Guys we gotta get our story straight, he knocked her down with a punch first ok?”
So why isn't that shown and why didnt she have marks on her face....
@@annebosworth7048She had blood running from her side because he stabbed her with the weapon he hand in hand while he was being talked to, before he was ever touched. Is that enough?
@@notsorryyouretriggered Two different women.
@@notsorryyouretriggered more proof you haven't watched the trial. The woman who was stabbed was Rhyley Mattison. Madison Cohen is the woman who they say got punched
😷💢 Then why they joined in the gang bullied without finding out what's going on first? There is no witness or 'victim' but a bunch of accusers. The mom also as an adult not only try to investigate the matter first but ask the man to leave and allow her daughters to curse and swear at him. (The video show all proofs so thats is no excuse for that).
Hurting the big man baby feelings and he thought he could commit homicide…he could have walked away. His life wasn’t in danger
Adults need to act like adults
I guess public humiliation doesn’t go down well with some people 🤷🏻♂️
Stabbing five people and killing one because of mean words is not OK!
@@nicenessispriceless2681 He only stabbed the people attacking him.
@@mattg2306you don’t stab a 17 year old girl for getting in your face
The teens are everything wrong with this generation. I know teens that are far better human beings because their parents insist on it. These kids should gain some insight and examine why they are so unkind.
Kids. Brought. This. All. On. Everyone. Being. Mean. Attackng. Old. Incent. Poeple
Either his aggression was warranted because they put their hands on him AFTER he put his hands on them multiple times before punching her; or its ok only for CERTAIN people to put their hands on others. Which is it?
@@XoxJasonReynoldsxoXIt was so chaotic and everyone was in each other's space and screaming. What if he didn't punch her but simply raised his hands up to block or to push back a little bit because they were in his face? Think about when you're wrestling around with your sibling or whatever and sometimes you might accidentally hit them in the face or elbow them when you're just playing around but it certainly didn't mean that that was your goal
After seeing the video if that wasn't self defense then what is
Why did he walk up to them with a knife out like that. Why didnt he leave them alone? Thats my question.
@@BR-ex9xp he was looking for his friend's phone, he walked up to them because he thought they had it.
He was the first person to put his hands on 2 of them (you can't do that). Then he hit the woman (you can't do that). Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation.
You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
@@BR-ex9xp He had it with him, as his friend asked him to bring it. Where do you see him walk up to them with a knife?
He walked away after his one to two second contact with a tube, which appears to be because he thought they had their phone in the rest over to get it. But they followed him and taunted and followed, and got closer. He pulled it out as he saw more and more people coming over from another direction, the mob behind him, getting louder and closer.
@@kellym4747 he had the knife out brandishing it as he was in the blondes face, before he clocked her.
This literal bloodbath was caused by a needless assault on an innocent man.
He stabs 5 people how is he innocent?
100%
Because he was attacked 5 times@@evelynholmes7105
almost everyone has missed something very important but i didnt miss it. in the first 10 seconds of the video, nicolai runs over to a guy sitting on a tube. nicolai reaches his hands into the crotch area of guy sitting on the tube. and then nicolai grabs the leg of a guy sitting on the tube and yanks him hard off the tube. nicolai was the instigator and original bully in the incident. not self defense. nicolai was the aggressor from the start. hes way guilty!
I know your blind 😂 so he didn’t physically assault a woman first ?
Alchohol and fear dont mix well
being crazy and having a knife dont mix well either
I have watched 2 videos and i hope i didn't miss any other one, but it seeing all of the comments I'm so glad that I'm not a jury in a room on trying to determine who is right and who is wrong with all the people on here‼️The only thing that we could probably agree on is the young man didn't have to die.
Poor choices and bad associations, there you go. It's actually very simple when one breaks it down to logical means. Another term would be common sense, which is virtually dead in America today
A group of six college aged guys, including a football player, needed all this “help”? This was all alcohol-fueled foolishness that ended in tragedy.
Other people noticed and wondered what was happening.
They had finished grade 11 at this time. Not graduated. Not in college. 17. The stabber was 54.
What could someone say to you that would cause you to stab as many people as you could, walk away, tell your friends someone was stabbed, and try to leave.
@@vitalucas9452Exactly. And, look at how far he was from his group. As an adult, he should've walked away and not engaged them.
In addition, the fact he tried to hide what he did/lies to his group AND to law enforcement, instead of calling the cops to report the incident he claims was "self-defense", says enough.
He chose to murder. GUILTY!!!
@@vitalucas9452it was not only name calling, watch the video again, if I was Mr Miu I would have been scared for my life.
The people in here blaming the victims and kids are absolutely disgusting. 🤮
@georgebitsanis2880 You are right. The stabber tried to accelerate the situation by standing around like a freak of nature, causing the second group to investigate.
This mom is truly devastated by her son's death. Those are not crocodile tears or an exaggeration for the jury. They are real and she is actually trying very hard to maintain composure. This is heartbreaking.
Unfortunately it was courtroom desperation because anyone watching that video would also felt the VICTIMS pain & terror too
@@jilleejillee1058what is your problem, are you related to the defendant?
@@jilleejillee1058the only victims are the two boys getting stabbed by this insane grown man ,
@@Patricia-hu8giher comment wasn't to disparage the grieving mother, but if you watch the video with an open mind, you'll see what she meant.
@@Patricia-hu8giAre you related to a mob member?
This guy - Jawan did NOT do himself any favors…. His testimony helped the defense….smh
These kids are lucky that they dint drown him. They would all get atleast 20 yrs if he drowned under their assault. So this outcome is not as bad as it could have been for all of the kids except one.
Dante and AJ should be charged w assault without question.
The one making the video should face charges as well.
He was the first person to put his hands on them. Then he hit the woman. Clearly these kids should have continued to allow him to assault everyone! Allowing this guy to do whatever he wants with his hands to whomever he wants is only way everyone walks away from this situation.
You should consider making up some DON'T STAND YOUR GROUND buttons for your cause!
These guys have had 2 years to all get their stories to gel. The father of the one even admitted to all going out to lunch after the bail hearing.
I noticed how several of them used the same phrases. Or when they all said, "we went to get help from an adult." Bro, you know you consider yourself an adult."
They gave statements to police day of, which were all consistent, but nice try. Ever thought that their stories matched because, I don’t know, they all witnessed the same attack? And witnessing their friend die and their other friend get fing disemboweled was etched into their memory?
@@rationalskeptic1exactly.
No mother should ever have to go through this😢
Then parents should teach their kids human decency. I’m sad the kid lost his life over it but I’m also sad that the man was made to feel that threatened by some disrespectful bullies. They acted horribly to this man as a GROUP. Sickening.
Her kid acted like a tough guy in that pack, but when he was all by himself he wasn’t a tough guy anymore. He found out the hard way
@@Incognito14141 Doesn’t matter though. Words don’t equate to taking someone’s life over. That’s “snowflake” behavior through and through. If you walk away, then walk away… don’t come back and stab folks and claim self-defense (after lying to the police). Any CCW holder with their salt will tell you not to try and flee the scene after a self-defense incident, let alone lie about your involvement.
She’s not the real mother
@@Incognito14141 The man approached them first grabbing their raft. He is really not a man at all.
I find this trial a sad state of affairs. First Miu should have never engaged with drunken high teenagers. He should have left. The witnesses all changed their stories after the event. Some of the testimony seems fabricated by prosecution witnesses. Miu was an adult he got himself in a mess then stabbed his way out. He is guilty of manslaughter.
No
Funny you mention the witnesses testimony being fabricated but not the fact that Miu lied about every detail of the event in its entirety. Telling.
I don’t think so
He is not being charged with manslaughter. Try to pay attention and stay off this forum with your ignorant comments!
If these teens felt threatened why didn’t any of them call the police? Clearly at least one person had a phone
They sure don’t sound scared. Laughing, name calling, aggressing
why didn’t he call them ? he’s the adult
Hmm why don't you ask the defendant the same question?
@@Pinklady12he didn’t have a phone, just a knife 😫
He was looking for his phone that’s how this started , I wonder if he left it by tubes and knew he was screwed with all those kids