A MORAL DILEMMA - Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance (Part 5)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- As we approach Tokyo Tower, we find Leanan Sidhe who Apsaras wanted us to deal with, but it would seem the feelings are mutual... What will we do?
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“Persona names are complicated.”
You mean the names of characters from completely different and distinct mythologies and folklore.
50:15 It's "sheed" because it's Irish Gaelic. Almost every demon in SMT is from a real-life mythology, so if you want, you can actually check in the compendium. WHen you're looking at a demon, you can hit the L trigger to see the lore for each demon. SMT can basically be "baby's first comparative mythology course."
Mate I gave up hope at them ever reading extra files after ZTD and VLR even though everyone said that they have lore stuff in them.
@@_Lis25The hope is if they're curious they can check it out off-camera.
It's for this reason I was drawn into SMT/Persona. I'm a big mythology buff and I can't tell you how many hours I've spent researching the complendium/wikipedia, etc.
The Asparas vs Leanan Sidhe side quest is basically a mini version of the common Law vs Chaos conflict in most SMT games. Sidhe represents Chaos while Apsaras represents Law.
I usually think of it as whether you want to sacrifice your freedom in the name of safety, or sacrifice your safety in the name of freedom.
@@LutyrannusNice summary of the Law vs Chaos dichotomy
I chose the route just based on the respected demon's stats/kit. I'm all for function over fashion (or sexiness in Leanne's case). It just worked out that way this time.
Fun fact, like with Persona, you can see the background of various demons, IE what folklore and mythology they come from, in their stats
This episode was the first of what we like to call an “SMT moment” which is when BS moments happen like being instakilled at the start of a battle, being easily crited, having your party wiped out, etc.
Every fan of this series of games has just a little bit of masochist in them. We don't want the game to punish us all the time, but occasionally being smacked down at random gets us excited.
Normal icon = full turn.
Flashing icon = half turn.
You'll get the hang of it :)
Tip even if you can't recrute a demon with a successful negotiation you can still recrute it LATER without negotiating next time. Same goes if you're party is full, just gotta not forget it if you already had a successful negotiation!
The trick, of course, is Evan not forgetting something. If you've been on this channel for any length of time, you know how risky a proposition that is.
That would actually take time for the player in trying to understand the intricacies of SMT. Can't blame them since relying on entertainment channels for thorough play-throughs will lead only to frustration. Better to just filter through the video for highlighted boss encounters.
@@jynxce I got the hang of it pretty fast, the demons always say to come back later when you're stronger, I tried it and it worked, I think it's more so that people dont have faith that the demon will be recruited or something
Happy eustace winner day everyone 😂
Oh yeah even the side quests have moral dilemma decisions that's why I love SMT!
You probably noticed this in editing but you missed a sidequest right here. 30:58
6:09 EXTERMINATE ANNIHILATE call back to the good times.
So, a flashing turn icon is a half turn. That's why they start flashing when you do something that only costs half a turn. Half turns are treated as entirely separate turns, allowing you up to double your initial available actions.
45:11 fun fact, if you had talked to them again after matching/passing their level, they'd have joined you instantly. Demons can remember past recruitment attempts under certain conditions.
some who even scam you and leave for no reason might apologise and join instantly if talked to again
Okay so an explanation of half turns. So you have standard turn icons on the top right. These are the turns you can take. Any action that is a half turn (weakness crits and pass) turns one of these solid ones into a blinking one. If no solids remain it consumes a flashing one which disappears. Any full turn actions will consume a blinking icon if it exists and a solid only if there are no blinking ones. This means, if possible use half turns when there are solids and when only blinking do literally anything, but these can be mixed and matched so for example a fully optimized turn could be 1/2 turn action, full turn, 1/2 turn ect, or you could do four 1/2 turns and then four full turns.
in simple terms top right if there not glowing then you can make them glow for an extra turn. by passing , criting or hitting the weakness of the enemy.
If you already gave a demon stuff, but they are too high level, you didn't waste anything, talking to that demon again when you are the proper level to auto-recruit them.
49:41 This is how the gates of hell sound like.
You guys are playing well. Keep it up.
I know these are recorded in advance, but I think you guys should check out today's Nintendo Direct some games that may be of interest to you both! 😄
Homegirl Yoko be leaking emotional trauma stuff accidently
Choices are important to make in the netherworld.
The spider guy said he'd join you if you talk to him when you're stronger. He means that if you're high enough level he'll just auto join you if you talk to him again. No need to savescum THIS hard lmao.
I’ve been slacking off when it comes to writing comments, so here we go!
It's hard to tell if you've realized, but any action that normally uses a full press turn icon will always use a half turn icon (the flashing ones) before it uses a full press turn. So if you hit a weakness with the Nahobino, you could have Yoko use a spyglass (human party members can use items) and you wouldn't be using up a full press turn like you would have if you had the Nahobino use a spyglass immediately.
4:20 Gremulins
Never seen an enemy run off after you succeed in negotiations.
About the Leanne Sidhe/Apsaras quest, I have no idea who's lying. I usually side with who is right but they're both right.
I don't like what Yoko said because she was wrong about Apsaras, 1:05:43 but she is right about how the world works sometimes. Then again, she might be self projecting.
2:40 , 3:21 , 33:01 Young man count
Young man total- 27
Watching this why playing farcry 6 it's funny I'm over here fighting for my life and u guys are calling things cute and my baby it's so good
Alos keep up the work!❤
If you continued and got stronger and talked to the spider thing, he'd join you right away, even though he denied you before.
I'm so glad you guys are playing this game! As someone who did play this game when it first came out, the Vengence story is sooooo much better than the of. I personally looooove this game's music, so it's so amazing that atlus added a crazy amount of songs to vengeance. ahhhhhh
Which is more annoying, "hey hey" or Navi's "hey listen"?
You figure out your turns by looking at the icons in the top right of the screen. These are called press turn icons
Each press turn icon represents an action in your turn. It's one icon for each party member, so most of the time you'll have 4. When you hit a weakness, crit or pass it gets you one extra action for the icon, represented by it flashing. So if you crit/hit weakness/pass 4 times in a row you'll have 4 flashing icons, meaning a maximum of 8 actions in your turn instead of just 4. When you already have only flashing press turn icons, any action will cost an icon no matter what.
If you miss or the enemy blocks your attack, it will cost you two icons, leaving you with less actions to perform in the turn. The turn ends when there's no press turn icons left.
The same rules apply to enemy turns when they attack you. If they crit or hit weakness they get extra actions, if they miss or get blocked they lose two. Enemies can, however, have more than 1 press turn icon per party member.
Crit, weak, switch, and pass are half turns and turn the most left non flashy turn flashy or uses a flashy if no solid is there.
Nommy/resisted hits, item, and guard use left most turn flashy or not.
Missed, and blocks use 2
Ect
39:39 top right, 4 turns, “half turns” turn them flashy and can double your turns basically.
45:32 1 I think if you leveled up and tried talking again it would remember and join
2 this one is the “enemy has advantage and pities you” pay out to make them leave.
1:07:23 there’s a path behind it, wait to use that.
SMT Minions sounds like a great collaboration! 😂 Damn those deaths are brutal. Thankfully you can save anytime you want.
The Aogami Type 1 essence has a pretty good physical attack move, you should check it out.
The 4 icons in the top right indicate the amount of turns, when you hit a crit, weakness or pass it glows, that means it only took half a turn.
Missing or getting blocked consumes 2 icons (turns). Getting reflected or absorbed/drained consumes 4.
Basically, you have the potential to get 8 turns with this system, you start with 4, then if you hit a weakness or crit, you get one more turn, 5 turns, so the protag will be able to act again after all 3 allies take their turns, if everyone crits, everyone will act twice, if you pass, you're gaining a turn too, if you miss or hit a block, you lose two turns
Already? It’s only episode five!
When the the ken becomes glowy, that is half a token. When you pass it uses one of those or turns a solid one into a half.
Evan, There's no water element, only Ice. XD
I'm really liking how that they've taken a lot of demons and mechanics out of Soul Hackers/Demon Summoner series and incorporated them in this game. It's a nice homage, considering how they tanked Soul Hackers 2 by under developing the Soul Matrix so it was boring (worse than OG Tartarus) when you spend so much time in it (thanks to teleporter hell).
Azumi is a grandma, keyword ma.
Gotta love em
Time decide what kind person we are in this world, and I’m sure it won’t be the last
SMT MINIONS! ASSEMBLE!!!!
to be fair
if you pay the price but are to weak or no free slotes you can get it later
just talk to the same type? and hes like oh its you yep ill join
Are either of you aware of the Nintendo Direct news today?
I’m sure they are, considering one game in particular was announced, and they are partnered with the company that owns said game.
@@JJ_R What company would that be?
@@Max1996YT It starts with a C. I can’t say exactly, because RUclips deleted my comment, for some reason.
@@JJ_R That tells me enough anyway, thanks.
Ah the first smt moment
Are hama and mudo not instakills in this game?
They only have a chance to insta-kill if the demon is weak to that damage type.