Does psychedelic therapy live up to the hype?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- A documentary short about a woman who takes ayahuasca to alleviate the pain caused by addiction.
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In 2020, a woman named Serene (she asked that we not use her last name to protect her privacy) reached out to two brothers named Rory and Ryan Van Tuinen after reading an article about their Waterbury, Vermont-based nonprofit Cultivating Connections. The Van Tuinens discussed using psychedelics as part of treatment to overcome addiction and improve mental health. Serene had struggled for years with an addiction to heroin and was ready to try anything.
As the article explained, Rory had taken the drug ayahuasca in 2019 as "a last-ditch attempt to overcome" a decadelong heroin addiction that had derailed his life. Though "neither Ryan nor Rory believe that hallucinogens are a cure-all," they say that without the ayahuasca, Rory would either still be "using" or he would be "dead." The key to recovery, they believe, was to accompany using the drug in concert with the "cultivation of meaningful human relationships."
Over five weeks, Serene participated in a series of preparatory meetings with the Van Tuinens. The next step was to travel to a cabin in the woods, where she would try ayahuasca and see if this new approach to treating addiction could put her life back on track.
Although the Van Tuinens have no official training or licensing, they are part of a broader movement. Therapists and researchers increasingly see psychedelics as an effective way of treating addiction and related issues, and the Food and Drug Administration is nearing approval of MDMA, psilocybin, and other substances in therapeutic settings.
"Our core beliefs, our behaviors, our patterns of relating, our patterns of coping get encoded in neural networks, which is why they are so difficult to change," says psychologist Andrew Tatarsky, the founder and director of the New York City-based Center for Optimal Living, where he specializes in addiction and harm-reduction therapy. "Psychedelic substances have this really interesting and unique capacity to loosen those structures and, in some cases, dissolve them so that people have the opportunity to rework their relationship to themselves and the world."
But Tatarsky also warns that psychedelics can be damaging to psychologically vulnerable individuals when administered by untrained practitioners such as the Van Tuinens. "If you face a traumatic experience and it's overwhelming to you and you don't have the support to titrate and manage the emotional intensity that comes up, it can actually be itself another traumatic experience."
Was Serene's ayahuasca use the beginning of her recovery-or a new problem to confront?
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I would like to know how many people this psychologist helped to permanently kick the habit, and how much it cost them? Seems important - for comparison.
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100% agreed. Unfortunately it seems like he discounted much of their story and it seems unfair
One recreational session was supposed to heal someone from a significant addiction? @ReasonTV, you are a beacon of light in a dark world, but you should have told the whole truth here. This does a disservice to the reality that psilocybin is a therapeutic substance used for the healing of the human mind.
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The clinical therapist is correct here you have to correlate why you think you need and are dependent on the drug first in order to actually alleviate the symptoms of addiction. It was the exact same approach I gave to a good friend of mine to get him to stop smoking. We discussed why he felt the need to smoke.
Yup. It won't work if you aren't really ready to deal with the trauma. I've seen countless friends who struggle with addiction use psychedelics, long before they were being called a medicine. All of those trips just seemed to me like another way to run away while at the same time having some false since of progress or enlightenment.
I think that you can here in her voice when they plan the trip that she's not really ready.
You play with fire you get burned
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Good Luck Serene ❤️ you can do it
Appreciate the comment. She's doing great and living a clean life 😀
Careful people. When it doesn't work it really hurts. Personal experience.
The same can be said for any any attempt at self improvement given the wrong expectations
Kinda funny that the shrink was critical of the new age pseudo-shamans. Maybe she didn't have the money for the exorbitant fee a psychedelic psychologist charges.
Well, the psychology field is getting ready to fall apart due to wobbly definitions and niche political revisions to the DSM. Psychologists were the new-age shamans. The "new age" folks are just the new psychologists. We go from preferring bedside manner and quality of character, to institutional systems, back to the cry with you experts.
I'm sorry but ayahuasca only made things worse for me. It's not for everyone. Especially those struggling with addiction. I highly suggest don't do it. It opens portals for demonic spirits that disguise themselves as something that it's not. Deliverance is the only way. That's what saved me.
Psychedelics are a brain reboot. They can help some people, and for some it makes it worse. Sounds like you didn’t benefit from it. People should still have the freedom to try it.
"Plant-based medicine"! Let's not start that people, it's still a drug. I also self medicate daily, with several plant-based medicines, such as wine and weed.
Who told you it was a drug?
Wine isn't a medicine. It is harmful and toxic in any dose.
@@abramjessiah No kidding. Are you sure you understood my comment... sarcasm!
Nothing "lives up to the hype".
That's why it's called "hype".
It's everywhere. The age of hype is upon us.
People think in terms of extremes so they exaggerate the good and the drawbacks of any topic.
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Finally a return to a traditional usage, that breaks out of the stupid Gonzo Ghetto boomers put it in.
It can't be taken lightly. It MUST be taken and experienced under the management of indigenous maestros.. It is a SERIOUS deeply spiritual undertaking. Her experience definitely was a waste of time.
This reminds us that so many situations are complex and solutions to problems doesn’t involve a big red button.
Legalize drugs and just require folks to live with the consequences of what they do to themselves.
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Sounds great if you have the mind for it. I only did acid about 6 times, then had a massive brain fry after smoking weed that put me in a mental ward and on all kinds of anti-psychotics. The mind is a fragile thing.
Exactly, I feel like a lot of the legalize it crowd doesn't understand this
See I completely understand this! It’s dangerous and there’s nuance to it like this that people aren’t considering. They just want quick fixes and aren’t fully informed. There needs to be more studies and education and control and risk assessment involved if this will ever be used as a type of therapy. A lot of drugs can ultimately makes things worse for you mentally and there’s all sorts of risks that could outweigh any of the benefits. But no one talks about that.
@@LateNightRewrites I'm absolutely in favor of legalisation, of all drugs, all of them, there's no reason putting a chemical in your body should mean 4 days in jail and never being able to get a job at Walmart, but for people like me, and possibly you, weed isn't just a harmless nothing burger. Weed would literally send me to the funny farm
They'll help with the mental aspect of it but they're not going to do squat for the physical symptoms, and that's what keeps most people on the stuff. Trying to just up and quit after your body is so used to it means at the very very least an entire week of vomiting, peeing out your butt, being hot and cold at the same time, having every single nerve in your body screaming in pain, not being able to eat, being more depressed then you've ever been, and not sleeping at all. That last one is probably the worst. The second you're maybe about to fall asleep your legs begin to kick and you've got zero control over it. Only way you're sleeping is a hefty does of benzos. The first week is just the initial stage too. If you're on methadone clear your calender for at least a month, probably more.
So true!! People really don’t get this aspect of things
Psychedelics are just an amazing discovery, it's quite fascinating how effective they're for depression and stress disorders. Saved my life
Psychedelics definitely have potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression,I would like to try them but it's hard to source them here
Tripping is not a bad idea but having a Mycologist who will recommend you the dosage is the best option
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Shroom microdosing help me overcome my life long addiction to cigarettes and alcohol
Taking two grams was a wonderful experience for me
Psilocybin has prevented me from drinking to much and also has helped me reduce my tobacco consumption while taking care of my depression. I'm thankful for the medicine and love that it is a much better solution than the big pharmaceutical medications.
I've been sober for 14 years now, but am hopelessly addicted to nicotine, and have serious chronic illness, chronic pain, and fatigue. I take several generally milder pain meds -- two prescribed, two OTC -- but I know that somehow my current condition is caused in part by several sustain traumas, and several sudden traumas all within a few days of each other in 2012. My life has never been the same: I've not worked steadily nor had a relationship since then, and spend all my time sleeping or on my computer.. Doctors don't seem to be able to do much, and some don't seem to want to help at all. I think a more "radical" approach is warranted.
Look into rife therapy. If you’ve ever had chicken pox, it can manifest as chronic fatigue. Radio waves from a rife machine destroy these viruses. There are also other bugs such as pseudomonas that if present in your GI tract cause fatigue and depression. Get a stool test and also have the dr look for staph (not normal no matter what they say). Get plenty of magnesium- like 500mg/day. It heightens and protects nerve activity. Parasites and bacteria cause some people to become b12 deficient, which causes absolute mayhem in the body. You may want to try injections. Some people swear it makes them feel like they’re 15 again. Eat lots of salt. It inhibits disease. Drink 1 gallon of water a day. You’d be amazed how well this can work sometimes, good luck!
@@atari7001 Thanks. A friend on mine says similar things about parasites. I was getting B12 shots for a while, but I had to leave that doctor; now I'm taking B12 pills daily.
I have to find the right doctor to do those things you mention. The ones I've had would never do what a patient suggests. They'd rather yell at you for listening to medical advice on the Internet, but I find the advice worthwhile, and the doctors not worth much.
@@paryanindoeur sure thing. Be careful with b12, it’s a double edged sword. Ingesting it can feed intestinal parasites(if that’s the issue). Maybe find an osteopath- they at least listen instead of call you crazy. Btw, some naturopathic docs have rife therapy but call it “frequency therapy”. I can’t emphasize enough how this treatment approach changed the course of my own fatigue. You can test the concept by finding rife frequency channels on RUclips for various ailments and playing the audio at maximum levels on your most powerful stereo and placing the speaker directly on your body. If you’ve found the right frequency, you’ll feel sicker for about 24-36 hrs and then you’ll suddenly feel better than ever. The bugs die and your immune system will react to the suddenly visible invaders. Keep trying different frequency sets until you find the one that gives you a reaction. I’ve noticed that the sicker a person is, the better this technique works. If you use radio waves instead of audio, your skin will tingle or you’ll get very bizarre sensations on the correct frequency when healthy people in the room will otherwise sense nothing. Holler if I can answer any questions…
Ayahuasca is very helpful for getting off nicotine. At least it has been for me. Kratom has been instrumental for my pain and fatigue as well. It allowed me to stay away from dangerous drugs like opiates.
Cannabis edibles might be a milder place to start and see if you have a positive mood effect. 2 g of mushrooms would also be worth trying
Ayahuasca completely changed my life for the better, but I agree with the psychiatrist that psychedelics alone DO NOT guarantee treatment.
About five years ago I was extremely depressed. I hated my job and the industry I worked in, was having problem with several of my toxic friends, was drinking and smoking weed in excess almost every single night (sometimes other things), was not doing any of the hobbies or projects I really loved doing, and was not opening up with people in my life about things that were seriously bothering me - especially my girlfriend.
I spent a couple of years slowly working on myself and trying to figure out what I was unhappy with and what I actually wanted to do in life. I tried Jordan Peterson's Self Authoring and journaled things I felt messed me up growing up, as well as undesirable aspects of my current situation, and did a LOT of introspection. I thought deeply about how (and WHY) I wanted to change, and what had to happen to facilitate this.
One could interpret this as analogous to therapy, and I agree with that sentiment. Journaling these things helped me immensely, and put me on a much better path.
When I went to the ayahuasca retreat, I was already trying to implement several changes but was failing to do so.
I had three experiences in two days. The first was beautiful, but very, very rough. I dealt with a LOT of stuff in that experience alone. The second was a little rough at the start, then absolutely beautiful. The third was surreal, introspective, and esoteric. Very hard to describe, but it made me feel that I now had enough to restart my life and would not need to come back for a long time.
Fast-forward to today, less than two years after my three-day ayahuasca experience:
• I completely lost my taste for almost all alcohol after the experience and gave all of mine away. Today, I drink once or twice a year with my family (by choice, not habit), do not buy alcohol or have any in the house, and am now the permanent designated driver of my friends and family.
• The moment I got back home, I threw out ALL of my drugs and accessories. I have not used any drugs since, and the craving to use was almost completely extinguished after one weekend.
• I found the courage to find a new job, and secured one at my dream company. My job is less stressful and pays almost 40% more than the aforementioned job.
• I had an inspired talk with my girlfriend the day I returned. I am now married to her, largely because of that conversation.
• For the first time in my life, I embraced my spiritual side. Your mileage may vary, but this was something very important to me that I always ignored.
• I do one of my favorite hobbies 5 days a week, and am finding time for others.
• I cut out some toxic people from my life and made efforts to improve relationships with everyone else. For the first time in my life, I have reached out of my comfort zone to make new friends and find a community of new people.
• I am a lot nicer and more responsible than I have ever been before, and endeavor to be completely honest with everyone (with rare circumstantial exceptions haha).
I still have a lot of work to do, but ayahuasca put me over the edge and back on a good path. I believe that my intentions and work up to that point made it work, as well as the guidance from the people at the retreat. I plan on going back one more time later this year after putting a bit more work into myself.
I do not think that people should go into any psychedelic experience expecting it to automatically fix them.
TL;DR: For psychedelics to help, you have to put in the work beforehand and meet the experience half way. Psychedelics are VERY powerful and useful tools, but they can be misused and are not a cure for anything by themselves.
Good piece, thank you. This is a complex topic - I appreciate the diversity of voices and experiences. As a facilitator, I can only say how plant medicine has helped me and many people in ways modern therapies seem to miss. Still, plant medicine ceremonies and retreats are far from a cure-all. The medicines do carry some risks. The mental health field does have valuable wisdom, as do indigenous traditions, from whose ancient and sophisticated practices many psychologists would surely benefit (and be humbled by).
My experience studying and working in both fields for years has yielded such a wide range of outcomes. Plant medicine is certainly wonderful and promising. It is also good to be careful and as present as one can with the process. Psychological intake, interview screening, preparation, setting, the duration and number of ceremonies, post-retreat integration, the participant-practitioner relationship - all can play in harmony or disharmony, which means the symphony can sound fantastic or horrible. Beyond everything, even the medicine, it is the level of concentration and collective intentions - of the participant and practitioner - which seem to matter the most in the healing journey.
Wishing everyone here whatever is in their highest good.
I agree.
Amazing how there haven't been credentialed administrators for the thousands of years that psychedelics have been used by humanity. Keep this gatekeeping professional out of the conversation. There are too many anecdotal stories for him to be seriously considered. They had sober watchers in the other room.
These gatekeepers were the ones killing the therapy profession's future by banning these options originally. Even as spectacular research was being published.
Every single time you cook up, it was a choice. Always a choice. Some of us are born strong, some born weak, some gain strength from weakness. Which one are you?
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Lot of weak people looking for strong people for help when they've had decades to help themselves.
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You shouldn't need a license to help anybody period. If you are willing to help, then you should be able to help. Nobody has an actual answer to depression. A licensed therapist just helps to the best of their knowledge. When someone ingest's psychedelic medicine, they become their own therapist with their own self knowledge. Yes, it can be dangerous but it all depends. You're here to experience & explore. Every something is not gonna work for everybody.
Not sure what the purpose of this video is. You show two totally untrained guys, who trip with her, and they all go back to using heroin. Is that supposed to inspire people to support medical usage? Why don't you show a professional psychiatrist using microdoses of LSD to cure PTSD in veterans?
I'm sorry but that title is unintentionally hilarious
I'm not sure it was unintended.
Maybe, just maybe, try quitting everything all together.
Hell, replace your bad addictive habit with a good one
I know an ex meth addict who quit drugs by working out.
Exercise addiction is bad too though. I’ve had it.
Quick , send in the SWAT teams.
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Hey guys! Rory here - For what it’s worth Serene has successfully gotten off of methadone. Rory has also stopped using heroin. We feel this film doesn’t accurately portray our lives and what we’ve been through but if you’d like you can check out our channel and our podcast where we detail the true issues and struggles along with successes that we’ve been through. Thank god and thank you all for taking an interest in our story.
The film offers a very limited perspective and leaves out a lot of pertinent issues (due to time limits or lack of willingness or capacity to dig deeper). It might be a good intro to a series of episodes but on its own, despite all the beautiful cinematography, it feels shallow. Thanks for chiming in, Rory, and inviting people to learn more.
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One thing that’s important stating the obvious is your environment your in-if you don’t have usually older people and or people with more life experience and or wisdom of sorts etc coming back can be verrrrry unsettling.
It's a brain scramble, neuron firing patterns are just crazy. It's a huge reset button for your neural network.
When you inject heroin, you do the Pavlov dog thing to yourself with a stimuli very few can say to know. You’re not going to hit a magic psychedelic button. I did incorporate regular small amounts of lsd once a week and exercise rigorously daily. I was addicted to heroin for ten years. I tried many things. The last one worked. Hallucinogens can be a powerful tool in a recovery toolbox. It’s not a magic fix. I also found it necessary to explore hobbies which included brewing alcohol and mushrooms and ended up going back to college for design as part of my recovery and getting a college degree. I’ve been professionally trading crypto the past few years now. I don’t have to work now. I don’t know what tomorrow holds with that but I went from homeless 10 years ago to here now.
You don’t need a heroic dose. I used lsd. I would guess between 80-200mcg per week one time. Often closer to 80-100. BUT that was after developing an exercise routine, daily. Everyday. Stopping heroin doesn’t make you feel good. It makes you stop getting sick. Exercise makes you feel good.
If I had to choose which bullet is more magic in getting over opiates, exercise 10/10 times. You can do push-ups anywhere. Doesn’t matter how angry it whatever you feel like. Do enough push-ups and you’ll always feel the same afterwards
You use the hallucinogens to help overcome the way you’ve conditioned yourself like, with the Pavlov dog thing. You don’t need allot. Just enough to notice you feel differently. I used to take lsd recreationally often before getting into heroin so I knew how I would react to it. If you have experience with dmt or mushrooms and can’t afford help. Stick with what you know. The premise is still the same. You just need something to interrupt your thought patterns
I’m pretty manly. I could do the withdraw. It’s the post acute that gets you. If you don’t start exercising, you’ll be depressed for literally longer than a year if you make it that long. It’s not intense like withdrawal, it’s prolonged. You can notch days off from acute withdrawal. You don’t always even know you’re depressed with post acute
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So that everyone who is unfamiliar with psychedelics and therapy knows - this is NOT how it is done. Especially Ayahuasca. They are all lucky that the floor did not fall out from under them.
“Untrained treaters” great, means more regulation.
Can anyone help me get off suboxone with this treatment? Queens ny
So you're saying tripping in the woods with tweedle dee and tweedle dum isn't an effective cure for hardcore addiction? 🤔 Fascinating. 😂
From the words of Terrance McKenna, psychedelics are not a cure to addiction. Psychedelics are a cure to stupidity. They show you what your doing to yourself, and what your doing is slowly killing yourself.
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Exactly
They can aid in the process. Substances like ibogaine and Ayahuasca have assisted many on their path to sobriety.
He also thought mushroom spores are a gift from an advanced alien civilization. He died well before psychedelics started being researched for addiction and PTSD treatment.
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Tried?
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Sympathy counts for a lot. Now get professional help. Empathy requires knowledge, expertise, and hand holding as necessary. As a party drug, I think most prefer shrooms, but I don't know.
Cigarettes are harder to quit than heroin! Just stop buying the crap!
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What a great story of compassion and care. Heroin is a tough drug to quit and methadone is even tougher.
She seems like a wonderful person to have helped 😊😊 😊.
But the most important point I heard is PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK
SO LET'S END IT AND USE REASON AND COMPASSION for drug policy 🤠🤠🤠
Regulations that give people a chance to recover from the pain they experience, pain that a substance made from plants makes tolerable.
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Cigarettes are harder to quit.
Legalization is worse than prohibition. You can’t eliminate drugs but legalizing them means you allow people to basically ruin themselves
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Psychedelics killed my drug and alcohol dependencies - one trip two years ago to purge my depression and chronic anxiety from my system was the best decision I ever made. I've done psilocybin mushrooms a few times since, but after my last high dose trip I realized that the medicine has taught me enough for now. I might return to psychedelics later in my life if I ever find a plug, they're so hard come by
When you've experienced psilocybin, the visions, the feeling that others feel, become really relatable and real. But when you haven't, it could sound very weird and wrong.
acid is my favorite, only done shrooms one time and that shit was extremely overwhelming never again. beautiful experience tho
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I just finished a trip (haven't had one for about 2-3 months) and it was a mess, it wasn't bad or good, it was weird, haven't ever had such a meh trip
kept going outside for a walk, like searching for something, but never found it, I just got back from working months abroad and wanted to trip but it felt off, everything felt unorganized and I was on edge most of the time, kinda felt lonely aswell, but oh well
Needs to be studied greatly
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Psychedelics work. Helped me cut out of depression edit and help me stop drinking as much in turn
Microdosing right now!
@@RealMTBAddict I do just do some magic mushrooms during the winter is about it not in a microdose
@@foracal5608 Whatever works. I have done big doses too. Not a fan of tripping out for 10 hours anymore.
I like the steady stream of psilocybin into my brain. Takes away my anger.
So you just traded one addiction for another.
@@KMF3 nobody is addicted to psilocybin. Nice try...
I can't find a source anywhere for any good psychedelics in my area. I suffer some pretty bad anxiety and i got a chance to try K and man it was a miracle substance, I felt free, the only high or euphoria was from the relief of my vices being released, that's exactly what it did
The psychedelic experience is temporary but many people have permanent results first shrooms trip was really awesome, it felt like i was deep into the sea
Magic mushrooms don't only help with mental health, they help amplify your empathy, if people were more empathetic the world would be a better place
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tripping is not a bad idea but having a Mycologist who will recommend you the dosage is the best option
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is he on Instagram or what?
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Whenever I hear, read, or watch a female say they have reached rock bottom from drugs, I then think that some guy was having the time of his life.
I'm glad to see that not everyone has jumped on the pro psychedelic bandwagen without examination. Reason T.V., you deserve your name. Thank you.
Reason just hates everything honestly.
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@@Slaktivist Exactly.
It's always good to see all sides of an issue. I suspect that Reason does not take the appeal to authority that their interviewee takes. Psychedelics have been used for millennia by humans for better mental health. All of a sudden we need credentialed gatekeepers? I think not.
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As an addiction counselor I've never seen a client helped by methadone. Quite the opposite. It just gets them addicted to another substance. It's crazy.
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Even the withdrawal is ten times worst … I still have fresh memories of my 45 to 60 days without being able to eat or sleep. Never went back get on a methodone ever again.. TEN YEARS SOBER 🎉
I think methadone is a good option and was useful for me. Is the issue the methadone or the fact that you’re getting groups of people together that often don’t have a year between the lot of them sober and helping them forge relationships with each other? Cause it might be the second one
It was not as useful as suboxone for me.
Here’s this. I have ten years sober now +. I had to drop my girlfriend because like I described, it’s hard by yourself. Put another human in the mix that is struggling and defective as me that knows how to press buttons, you’ll never get clean.
And after you’ve done it enough you behave predictably. So you forge a friendship with someone in a group setting. Same exact problem.
Early recovery is like a scale from 1-10 everyday with opiates. Like, you know from the first tone you get sick, at least 1% of you want to genuinely stop. So you go from being all in at 10 down to 9. So one day I may show up at group at a 3 in my desire to stop. Someday it’s 7. If I’m struggling some days, I can’t handle talking about drugs with a room full of people talking about drugs. That’s a stupid idea and only a stupid person would think it’s a good idea.
Well done, Reason!
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I know Rory and he's an incredible person. This film doesn't even scratch the surface of what he and his family have been through. He's clean now and his journey is incredible. Love you Rory!
It doesn’t matter how many rock bottoms you hit. What matters is getting back up again.
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I’m very disappointed that none of the millions and millions seem to get the joke.
Psilocybin is legal here in Colorado. Not for retail sales but legal for possession and growing.
It has improved my thought patterns no doubt. I was diagnosed with depression in the 2nd grade. Tried every drug out there but only use cannabis daily now.
Psilocybin is decreasing my reliance on cannabis. And that's a win in my book!
Down from an ounce a week to a half O every 2 weeks.
Psilocybin takes time to really work. I've taken it over 50 times.
Reason missed the mark with this video. She had no support group so it was easy for her to fall back into old habits. And doing heroin while caring for a child is just morally wrong. Place the child into a better home please.
@@Slaktivist nice take, yes it’s like they need permission from strangers
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Im excited about the potential therapeutic uses of psychedelics but this was a great perspective on how this might be more successful with thoughtful professionals leading the charge. Either way, criminalizing drugs is criminalizing mental health so a HUGE change is needed badly.
Gross. Your opinion about allowing "thoughtful professionals" to "lead the charge" is ignorant, bordering stupid. Grow up. You're an adult. Do your own research. Stop giving other people authority over your life.
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This was an amazing story!
Is there a better Journalist the Nick at the present time? Doubt.
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The issue is they limit job opportunities and then people fall into financial depression and the cycle continues in my opinion.
That's a choice
@@RealMTBAddict is it? Then it should be in writing before the drug is administered to a withdrawling patient
@@elizabethhurtado2829 Yeah it is. Have you lived with heroin addicts? I have!
@@RealMTBAddict hahaha ex RN here
@@RealMTBAddict it not really a choice society doesn't allow for many drugs addiction people to get good jobs, because the war on drugs end that
Great work Nick. Man, it's heartbreaking to watch. . .
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Psychedelics are for fun and living life to the fullest possible. Not curing people of physiomental disorders.
They are toys, awesome toys everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy without persecution, not tools.
They're unnecessary and will create more unnecessary problems because self control is something we as a society severely lack
@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 Your happiness isn't necessary. What a lovely view of the world. Don't drag other people down with you coward.
@@warrengraham5419 "coward"
Ah yes, advocating for addictive drugs and saying that I'm dragging people down....
@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 These things (I can only speak to psilocybin in particular) heal the brain. They allow the brain to regenerate neural pathways, which allows the person to re-establish better, more healthy patterns of thought and behavior. They heal a person so that they can take back self-control from their established habits. It's better results than going to a therapist for six years. Do some research.
@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 I mean for one, that's just false. Even the federal government admits that psychedelics have "extremely low" addiction potential. They just think that people will go insane or that pleasure is sinful and taking hallucinogens will get you possessed by demons (even if they arent allowed to use religious superstition as legal reasons its a large part of why they vote & choose the way they do).
20,000. Hyperbolic much?
@Alex Varley I see that
@@alexvarley8830 yeah bro how dare a heroin addict try to emphasize how desperate they are to get clean
@@tomayto70 not too desperate since she went right back to it.
@@RealMTBAddict You're into kicking people when they're down. What a champ.
@@VI-rt7sh Words are not violence.
Nothing like weak and stupid people doing drugs, regretting it and doing more to stop. How bizarre.
WERE ALL GONNA DIIIIIEEEEEEEE
Hit up ⬆️ the handle. Great plug for psychedelics, MDMA and alot more...
23 seconds and you've already shown the needle and the spoon twice this is clickbait you don't know the first thing about addiction or you wouldn't be carelessly triggering
Oh, calm your tits...
Seeing a needle isn't "triggering." They are just pixels on a screen, it's not right in front of you.
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You know nothing of addiction
@@kevintewey1157 I know it's a choice.
@@kevintewey1157 well, If it’s that bad maybe ppl with addictions shouldn’t watch things concerning addicts and drugs 🤔
Magic mushrooms helped me stop my alcoholism