Yes, it's not the best place to be. Then it depends on character, who are the members, how's the agency, etc. Two very simple examples: BTS and SHINee.
Nope….if they were legal age back then …they still can’t breach the companies contract….adults would have it harder….even if NJ were minors …they are under the law protection …and can have the upper hand and ADVANTAGE…so they need to carefully handled….cant get that as an adult tho lol………Age does not matter …it’s law…written contracts that come into play…signed by the company, the girls and ofc their parents permission…if you think there backlash was bad….if they were ALL legal….IT WOULD’VE BEEN WORSE AND THEY WOULD BE DISPOSED AND DISBANDED SO FAST…
I'm neither on NJ or Hybe sides just enjoy this drama over popcorn. But til this day i still don't understand NJ's mistreatment narrative. I'm pretty sure they get the best of the best treatment and resource at ADOR while MHJ was still the CEO like iphone and coca cola endorsement. But suddenly, their parents came crying mistreatments left and right and everyone just believe them?
The newjeans situation is getting so old everytime I hear new news about it I just sigh like it's so annoying every two weeks there's something new like atp just stop wrap it up
The girls arent dumb and the fact that you think hybe cares for newjeans rven after everything that has come out is just plain delusional and insulting.
@@Ushionai this is the problem with most Bunnies, if someone says one bad thing about MHJ you all automatically assume that someone is supporting Hybe, and no, that's not how it goes, there can be more than one bad guy and MHJ is one of the bad guys here
Some of yall don't understand business. The richest and highest people in every industry are not clean and good people.Companies see being good and moral as a disadvantage and gets you no where big. For example look at Trump , definetly not a good person but knows how to do his job and gets votes. Without doubt MHJ is good at her job and you don't get such talent easily and hybe was willing to give her what she wanted to get her. And clearly with newjeans it paid off.
1. Isn't also this like the third time that they say goodbye? It has started to lose its effect tbh. I think at the end nothing is going to happen, i also can't take the whole situation seriously anymore. All of that is such a circus 2. I'm glad they're showing a new side, but it's still not that good. And yeah, they been nominated for anything is really funny 😂 8. Yves it's so amazing ❤ i love all her songs
@@SimonBreizh they posted something yesterday where there was 5 suitcases.. like leave hybe and go with ur p*do mom, let the other idols get some peace too
The NJ girls are really coming off tooooo arrogant to me, crying for a pity party while playing with fire against HYBE (they could have distance themselves from MHJ for the public eye at least but decided not to, so assume consequences girls). I like their songs but I just can't support their mess they brought on themselves... Bunnies tend to protect them by saying they are manipulated by MHJ, but are they really ? Also not forgiving toxic bunnies for the hate they brought on ILLIT, not acceptable. I'll be fine when they disband (what are they waiting for anyway ? seems like they want to have their freedom, but oh wait a minute HYBE is giving them exposure and schedule actually even after all the rumors of cancelling them they're pretty busy, now what? I can't with girls living for drama)
Never seen a group defend their manager as much as New Jeans. So many other idols like Taemin from Shinee, Jungkook from BTS, Jisung from NCT, IU, Tzuyu from Twice, Yujin from ZeroBaseOne and Eunchae from Le Sserafim also debuted very young. But you don’t see them act like the New Jeans members. Even now almost the whole group is adult.
@@vixxexo6855 at this point it’s not manipulation. The girls want to be manipulated and I feel like not all of them are agreeing with it, some voices in the group are louder than others. There is no way all 5 people have the same mindset, at least there will be doubts. Some members’ voices are not heard; coz this is to me blind solidarity. At the end of the day the girls are not blood related . May be I am selfish but to me I am putting my career before anything else.
1. It's embarrassing with a costume of empowering and I can't take with bunnies thinking they slayed 😑 MHJ, NJs and bunnies want to cause all the DRAMA MA MA MA
2. teddy needs to stop use the same formula over and over just bc it's somehow catchy - it's annoying and will only be seen as a bp copy. don't get me on the "we are rich and brats and have more money but don't rlly have more to offer" trope yg rides it's boring.
@@WonyOnDaZa Honestly, as someone who’s been a victim of manipulation, I don’t fully agree with the idea that we 'can’t blame them too much.' While manipulation is powerful and can blind u to reality, there comes a point where u need to reflect on ur actions and the consequences they might have had on others. Being manipulated doesn’t absolve someone of responsibility when they cross certain lines. It’s complex, but brushing it off as 'not their fault' feels dismissive to everyone affected, including the victim themselves.
1: It's honestly no shock that they're still holding on to Min Hee-jin and even thanking her. They seem to genuinely think they can't succeed without her guiding hand. This is the result of MHJ's influence so don't get surprised. These girls are WAY better off without MHJ. MHJ is just a dark cloud that looms over them. They sure will have a contract termination, but this won't be an easy way there. If anyone thinks that this will be easy for them then I'm sorry, y'all just lack intelligence.
I'm starting to think MHJ must have something on the parents or the girls themselves. I can't understand why the parents/girls would go to these lengths over one person. They can't be stupid enough to think their kids will still have careers after everything is settled and done. I guess we won't know the whole truth until the girls themselves decide to speak up, now might be too soon cause they're complicit in all of MHJ's schemes but years from now they'll probably try to blame everything on her and write a book called "How one woman ruined our lives."
kinda wanna see them in the future finally realising the witch MHJ is and hope they apologise to the ppl they hurt. Would be amazing if they can be friends with Illit later on
Bro I can't even use the excuse that NJs are young so they don't understand that what min heejin is doing is wrong, like Im younger than all of NJ and even I can tell that Min heejin is messed up, it's common sense, I love NJ so much but now they've decided to fumble their career for some petty woman, I really don't want to see them go, but it's what they brought upon themselves :\
I will say, I agree but keep in mind that they’ve been directed by her since childhood so her influence on them is huge & hard to break. I think their biggest mistake was coming public & not just support her behind the scenes ya know?
@@YTpsychMyths2 yeah, i do agree, it is a shame that this is how newjeans will go, but knowing them we will definitely see the members of newjeans again
Y’all K-pop fans are so fucking weird! Because you guys don’t know what’s Hybe doing to new jeans and min Heejin ! You are wishing bad for them because their loyalty is what makes them successful and the Korean public support them ! Fuck toxic hybe and you !
Honestly, seeing idols at kgma from previous generations, or those who didn't have much impact this year, trying to gain sm and newjeans fans' attention by siding with them and mhj-especially when they regularly target illit, bts and le sserafim, really left a bad taste in my mouth. The whole thing felt incredibly staged, and their willingness to act in that way made me wonder if some of these idols are just plain greedy or easily brainwashed
Yeah and i wonder why nj went because hybe cut ties with kga after they mistreated hybe artists and published anti hybe articles that is why they were the only hybe group there
idk in my opinion the other idols don't know much about the hybe drama except that newjeans is fighting against hybe. And as idols they know what it's like to be under a bad company so that's why they're blindly siding with NJs because they believe hybe is actually mistreating them. After all those idols don't have much time to research about it + they'll be more biased towards the idols than the company + and some of them are friends with NJs/ like them
@@hiyylightI really want to know what other hybe groups think about this. I'm sure their opinions might be different than idols that aren't in hybe. But im really not sure.
@@hiyylightits also more beneficial to be on the side of nj unless they’re in hybe also the might be sweet girls for the most part so many in the industry might like them
if i were newjeans, i would probably have believe mhj at first, considering theyve def been groomed. but once my entire COUNTRY and MORE were telling me she was in the wrong, i would start to reconsider. and you cant even claim this is an age thing, bc im the same age as danielle. these girls are old enough to consider both sides of an argument.
no the thing is no one except hybe and belift is telling them they are wrong. South Korea is siding with NJS, bunnies are, and most fandoms except armies, fearnots and glitz are supporting them. So naturally they will be way over their heads
2. Nah i wish "Body" or "toxic" was their debut song instead of meow. If promoted better and properly, those wouldve done so much better as well. Teddy should work more on promoting them properly imo
No way. I completely disagree. BODY and TOXIC are terrible debut songs. People would've SHAT THEIR GUTS on them if BODY was their debut song because the song sounds like a rejected BP song. TOXIC sounds like a B-side or a pre-release for an album. And TOXIC ain't even a song that's debut worthy.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_sounding like a rejected bp song isnt necessarily bad yk👀 i see majority liking these songs tho, especially toxic. People r comparing them to meow, some r saying they r much better than their actual debut song. And personally, toxic/body over meow anytime anyday >>>>>
@@Gojo-ki-poookieHonestly, I see it the other way around. When a song sounds like it could've been rejected by Blackpink, it just reflects poorly on the group. I mean, take BATTER UP for example-when it dropped, people instantly slapped that “BP reject” label on it without hesitation. It didn’t help BM’s image; it just gave people more reason to criticize. The only ones really into BODY are die-hard MEOVV fans who’ll hype up anything, even if it’s just another recycled BP track. They don’t care if it’s mediocre as long as MEOVV’s name is slapped on it. It’s like they’ll eat up whatever TEDDY puts out, even if it’s just the same old stuff with a different title. The bar is so low that as long as it's familiar, they’re sold, even if everyone else can see it’s just a copy-paste job.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ its quite obvious why some songs by girl groups under yg/ black label will be associated with blackpink regardless. But its the yg formula tbh. But that doesnt mean any song with that formula is just-bad? Considering different music tastes is a key thing here as well. We cant just slap the "oh- bp reject = bad " since there r people who arent fans but who genuinely like these songs better than their actual debut (including me). Its kinda generalizing to say anyone liking that song is a die hard fan. Meov is yet to establish a discography anyway. Remember teddy is yet to put out a whole album with enough bsides for us to judge wether he uses bp formula or there is a variety. How can we say all that when this group legit has only 3 songs rn.
@@Gojo-ki-poookie I get what you're saying about the "YG formula" naturally connecting these groups to Blackpink, but I still think it's more complicated than that. When a song heavily resembles BP’s style, people aren’t just “associating” it with Blackpink-they’re outright saying it sounds like something Blackpink would’ve passed on. That’s different from just following a vibe or concept. It's like these songs don’t just remind listeners of Blackpink; they actually feel like leftover tracks, which ends up reflecting poorly on the group. Sure, people have different tastes, but there's a difference between genuinely loving a song and hyping up anything just because it’s from a familiar producer. With MEOVV’s BODY, a lot of the positive feedback does seem like it’s coming from die-hard fans who’ll hype up anything tied to TEDDY, whether it’s fresh or not. And if we're being real, the "YG formula" has been recycled so often that it feels lazy rather than exciting. So when listeners label a song as a “BP reject,” it's not necessarily because they dislike the YG sound-they’re picking up on how formulaic and repetitive it’s become. And, yes, MEOVV has only three songs so far, but that’s exactly why these early releases matter. If TEDDY’s introducing them with tracks that immediately draw “Blackpink reject” comparisons, it’s hard not to wonder if this will be the trend for their future music. We don’t need a full album to see the direction; the pattern’s already there in these initial songs, and it’s not setting MEOVV up to stand on their own feet.
Getting 10 daesang all brand deals strong fandom in 2 and half year not joke maybe it's payola or something but their attention omg hybe boy cookie eta ditto are famous but other songs are lower that lowest still they got strong support and awards I mean we need to study them
6. Mhm, there'll always be one or two members that'll have solos selling more than solos of other members. It all comes down to the popularity. Expecting solos to make as much as the group projects is far fetched tbh. Its rarely the case
1. imagine debuting in a big company with an amazing song that trended all of a sudden they said your group copied but whatever it has nothing to do with you but your company everyone starts insulting you and calling you fake, copy, unoriginal. but whatever it would all fade away within months. the hate intensifies and you were accused of being a group whose manager mistreated a 'princess' but whatever you didnt do anything wrong senior artists hoping to us the special groups fans to trend or be a good person speak out about them but not about the hate you are getting, but its okay your company is made some mistakes suddenly special group decide to leave the company which their fans have been urging them to do , but noooo another hate wave from their fans because apparently you chased them and are trying to replace them. all this while no senior kpop idol spoke up about your hate , that shows how terrible the kpop idols that spoke up for the other special group are. because they dont care about the hate you are getting. illit have gone through a lot and it pains me to see that only their ceo is speaking out for them, even when he does he is accused of media play. i hope artistes become good people and speak out and against their own fans attacking illit. i wish this my comment will go viral.
the award show that decided to invite nj but no hybe artist is just terrible. what did they do. i hope south korea punishes their rich and influential people or people that commit sa as serious as they are tryig to wipe hybe artist that was immature and obviously to prove they are on the right side.
before blinks attack me and saying im attacking rose im not rose answered that dumb question correctly what was she meant to say "oh i hate hybe, fvck that stupid company" or "nj are entitled dumbasses" no, she answered like a mature adult that she is saying "i love them" but bunnies take this is a support, they are just pathetic nincompoops
yes, I'm really sorry for her, the last time Iroha cried, netizens blamed her for pretending and apart from Hwasa, I haven't seen any other celebrities supporting them even though there are many who support new jeans.
Hwasa has publicly said that she wants to collaborate with them, but unfortunately no one else. On the other hand, the other group seems to be sprouting support like mushrooms, they have sold the idea that they are victims very well.
@@nobadreviewshere It's not that the move was going well for them, from what I read, it had capacity for 15,000 people but only about 5,000 people attended
1. Yeah they screwed themselves over and they aren't innocent as well since they stood by mhj as she harmed the other groups and they're showing that they are entitled brats like even at that awards show they took Gidle seats and fans trying to say they didn't know when they ran right to their assigned seats so they knew what they were doing they think they're more important than they actually are because mhj got them like that and even she bashed them but hey she's leading them into fire.
@@KingAda35th No trying necessary on this one. It’s obvious. MHJ said bunnies are stupid. Are you a bunny? I’m sorry, I’m sure it hurts that even MHJ doesn’t like Nj or bunnies. Yikes.
From their inception until now, they’ve been surrounded by drama, rumors and controversy. Its too much on either side, I think I’ll just stay away from them. Wishing everyone the best but personally I am into kpop for the music and not the messiness its become.
I was so shocked when I saw like 10+ kpop idols post support for NewJeans. And no hate but I was like ummm did yall not do research? This was bound to happen
The only one, not doing their research is YOU😂😂😂 where is the support from people from all over the world (in the industry) for lsfm and illit, btw? 😂😂😂
Y’all K-pop fans are so fucking weird! Because you guys don’t know what’s Hybe doing to new jeans and min Heejin ! You are wishing bad for them because their loyalty is what makes them successful and the Korean public support them ! Fuck toxic hybe and you !
I also like what you said about Yves. She’s the only Loona member who really is doing something extremely different than the rest of the girls and I’m proud of her for it. Her music personally isn’t my cup of tea, but I can’t deny her artistry. As for TripleS I’m seriously agreeing with you. I wish they would’ve stuck with the main units that lead up to the debut. Everyone knows them and it would have been fair for all the members. It’s starting to feel too messy…and idk how to truly feel about it :/
What’s horrifying to me is how they have no real support system. Everyone from the CEO’s to their own parents see them as piggy banks. Their best interests come after that. On top of that, they entered and grew up in this industry so young. I can’t imagine what this training, public attention, harassment and battles will do to their mental health. Minors-especially as young as they were-shouldn’t debut. Period. Hell, Don’t even think about going into this industry unless you’re self reliant and can get the representation you deserve.
@@giovannabenso1754 all the girls sans minji were minors when the debuted. They trained for longer. Most of them are legally adults now, but they still lack independence and adult experience.
3. Okay so intl fans are too forgiving but this one time we're not forgiving SM for what happened to Seunghan suddenly we're the villains and we need to let it go
I don’t know how I feel about you putting “it’s what they deserve” in your thumbnail cuz they don’t deserve any of this both the adults in this situation aren’t doing their proper jobs. At the end of the day they were minors so I understand why they felt that way. The girls need to realize not even minhjin (or whatever her name is) doesn’t care about them
this youtuber and her followers are very anti newjeans, even with the hybe leakage of data they were in denial. They think NJ is equally as reliable for ador and hybe's public feud as MHJ or hybe officials. Its better to let them be than trying to reason with them.
@@justhope227 people were saying that that ceremony was organized or something like that by a MHJ's friend.... i don't know if that's true, but it's definitely sus
1. njs fans crying about ppl pointing out that these women (believe it or not, their childish concept can only fool y'all to a certain point) desperately destroy their own careers over an old obsessed woman when they could just look forward and grow from there on but bye bye🥱🥱
Y’all K-pop fans are so fucking weird! Because you guys don’t know what’s Hybe doing to new jeans and min Heejin ! You are wishing bad for them because their loyalty is what makes them successful and the Korean public support them ! Fuck toxic hybe and you !
I actually liked "Toxic" but _that_ noise in the background (idk how to describe it, but I hope you know what I'm talking about) gets on my nerves so badly that makes me wish I was deaf
I know exactly what you mean. It’s like a rattly bass or something and it’s an instant migraine trigger. The song was ok but that noise ruined any chance I had of liking it.
I will say this again. Kpop Stan’s were against Mhj and nj when they started bc of her pedo allegations and they were from hybe . Now that they are against hybe all of a sudden all kpop industry is supporting them.. that channel “Angelina girl” doing videos dressed as Mhj like this is some kind of joke, reading nj fans comments as if is the real facts.. is getting annoying how hypocritical kpop and nj fans are getting. Still no real proof that hybe is throwing them to the dust . Now they are looking for validation from other idols that mentioned nj in support. Is ridiculous. I want them gone already.
NJ did not ‘flop’ this year. So what it was not as ‘viral’ as get up, both their Korean and Japanese albums this year performed amazing. How sweet was only beaten by supernova a monster hit. If this is your idea of flopping you’re delusional.
we get shitted on for pointing out that newjeans arent victims, the delusion around that group is insane and unhealthy. they were fine at hybe they are clowning themselves if they think they are victims
I don't know what to say about the NJ matter because what are they doing I will not even say I feel bad for them cause I don't they were stupid from the very beginning The moment they pulled off that livestream I know that it was the end for them
6: No. Not clownery. ✨ DELUSIONAL✨ Thinking every member will hit the same level of solo success is honestly a bit delusional. Each one has different strengths, fanbases, and vibes, and not all of that translates when they go solo. A lot depends on timing, the music they release, and how the industry responds, which just isn’t going to be the same across the board. Expecting them all to blow up equally? That's just not how it works.
The comment section here shows that mature PPL still exists . Also nj will not end or disband i think it's yet another play Also the video of other idols reacting to them shld not be such a shock coz yes at some point the companies do treat artist in a bad way and by saying those things on stage maybe they gained some sympathy for the fact that they as an artist if they are gone will be bad but that doesn't justify their illogical demand that is clearly unprofessional.
@Kitty_missss 😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂 you tried ... 😂😂😂😂 how are the views of your fave? where are the wins? brand deals? where is the support, respect and acknowledgement from people in the entertainment industry all over the world? ... oh wait ... all is going to nj 😂😂😂 ... Someone is salty that amidst the conflict, and without releasing any music, your fave cant keep up! 😂😂😂😂
2: I’d say TOXIC really suits Narin. She’s able to put so much feeling into her singing, and you can genuinely feel it through her voice. The song itself is simple and has a calm, sad vibe without being too intense. I like the rhythm-it gives space for their vocals to shine. Plus, I heard Narin and Gawon helped write it, which is honestly a solid start for them. Overall, it's a decent track from them. It's not bad or terrible like MEOW. That song is just TOO UNBEARABLE for me.
People are treating them like poor little angels against the big bad Hybe and was forced to threatened their contracts. No. They made a CHOICE. literally no one asked them or push them to do so.
Baemon’s tour is a strategic move by YG imo. Instead of sending them to the end of year award shows their goal was to get them known internationally. I respect YG expanding out of Korean popularity.
I think it's more than that, we're not going to promote them, we're going to fill our pockets. To fill a concert, people have to know you beforehand, it's not a promo, if people don't know you beforehand, they won't pay to see you.
2: Icl, TEDDY is failing these girls. I like TOXIC, but BODY & MEOW are absolutely disappointing. They're giving a group of talented girls, mediocre song's AND on top of that, TEDDY ain't even promoting them like a normal company would do for their newly debuted groups.
6. That's so true! Also these number obsessed fans will try to gaslight u into feeling bad if u don't take the time outta ur day to stream 30x a day for the soloist.
4: It's definitely a fat flex but Idk, their discography is kinda meh? I would've waited another year or so and let them go on a world tour 🤷🏻♀️ It's a bold and confident move for YG todo, but I'd still wait anyways.
To be real all this situations not going to happen if Min Heejin didn't cause a chaos from beginning.Despite their huge popularity and influence, I didn't expect them to fall so fast in just a 2 years.
Sure looks like they’re falling 😂😂😂 what are you rambling on about? You do know, if they leave hybe, it’s not going to do anything for your faves, right?
Y’all K-pop fans are so fucking weird! Because you guys don’t know what’s Hybe doing to new jeans and min Heejin ! You are wishing bad for them because their loyalty is what makes them successful and the Korean public support them ! Fuck toxic hybe and you !
It’s about time. I’ve genuinely never been more annoyed and tired of drama more than this They are blowing it far more out of proportion, their statement alone shows how much they do not care for their career and what will soon follow after this. HYBE better let them go, as they say. *Be Careful For What You Wish For*
I love NewJeans but they seriously need some mental therapy or else they will start to think that MHJ shit is an angel.Kinda sad seeing people hate Newjeans over here but I cant deny that they are thanking that shit when they won a daesang.... That shit really has manipulated them girls. i hope they leave hybe and everything gets sorted....
You don't see difference between hate and critic, WE don't hate NJ - we criticize members for stupid loyalty to MHJ....btw i Hate Hybe as company and most of their fandoms, because they are toxic for kpop. WE had already some similar case with fifty fifty, shitty company who treat their idols, who spread info that memebers are greedy and other bs, idols which only fault was they wanted better, trash CEO. But already huge amout of fans(toxic) hate members who left company. BUt the different is that NJ girls didn;t have problems with health treat, and they were payment...members of FF don't. SO if you want see a real "Hate" look on comments in Fifty Fifty old MVs!
@@KallenSCyou are absolutely right but I really saw some people hating new jeans saying they should disband and get away from K-pop and stuff like that, i agree I couldn't realize the difference between criticizing and hating. But about the fifty fifty one, i already know how much hate they got(plus criticizing). thank you for correcting and telling me the truth
If new jeans disbands it'll be really hard for them to redebut , even if a company shows interest in them knowing these girls they'd probably ask that companies ceo to make mhj the ceo while mhj itself has 15 lawsuits to deal with
Bruh kpop is dying so bad & it’s just bcuz companies can’t bother to churn out good shit There’s so many good artists out there how hard is it to hire some of them
#4 Expected The world tour from Yg for Babymonster, Yg needs MONEY... Yg is running on losses, treasure's tour isnt enough for them to survive neither does bm's cbs bringing in huge profits
Which company doesn't need money with all the investment made on bm especially 😂I think the tour is a good idea but it's going to take a toll on the girls,wish them all the best
@@mavisamevorshie1302 ofc every company need money, but yg is escply running on losses, bp aint coming back anytime soon... they dont have good profit, they will make the max out BM SEA fans
1. At first I felt sorry for them, but each time it seems like a group of brats who think that everyone has to obey them, because it's the second time they make those imperatives, what did they expect?? That they were going to say: "no, no, don't go, without you the company doesn't exist..." or they were going to let them go with their name, songs and everything, just because of their pretty face, with the money they have invested in all of it. I suppose that if they really fulfill their ultitatum this time, the difficult part will begin for them, until now they have been respected for being important artists for the company, but if they declare war, I doubt very much that they will continue to protect them. 2.It's clear that they don't deserve the nomination, not yet at least. They are a group that has potential, but so far everything they have released is forgettable. 4. Another YG group that they aren't managing properly, it seems like they need cash now that Blankpink isn't in the equation, but they are rushing them into everything. 9. Fans are not an eternal cash cow, so many comebacks in such a short time will have the opposite effect and they will sell less and less.
They’ve been directed by her since childhood so her influence on them is huge & hard to break. I think their biggest mistake was coming public & not just support her behind the scenes.
I hope MHJ leaving has started their wake up call. Tho I do think the only road forward for NJS is to disband and get a lot of therapy, now that MHJ has resigned.
That's the problem with Armys. They literally hate solos bc someembers are more successful than others & it gonna will ruin BTS' as a whole group. Not every Army or solo fan of a member should be bullied just bc every member isn't their cup of tea or bc they don't enjoy music of other members as compared to the one they choose to stan. Those solos were part of Army fandom & when Bts will cb they'll support the group again but I don't see it happening bc if they'll choose to bully solos they should also stop expecting them to support bts as whole & now armys will say (they can stfu) but trust me more than half of Army fandom has left, either as solos or into other grps or just fell out of Kpop & won't turn back ever & it's concerning for their part too. They are literally fighting with solos like their life depends upon vanishing them but trust me its those solos who are carrying members. Take example: (According to ot7, a real ot7 treats all members equally then considering rapline's numbers I can bet that bts would fail after reunion. While, maknae line especially Jungkook has WAY HIGHER numbers than rapline members & around 50%+ support comes from solos & around 20% from GP & remaining ot7 (considering Rapline's number & their "ot7 stream all members equally" agenda). & Most of the solos are now unwilling for reunion & they're against bts & they were the same people who were part of Armys once so Armys have no idea how much harm they're inviting to reunion of bts by boycotting & bvllying solos of members. They even bvlly those solos who don't badmouth abt other members. & They can't act shvt solos bc no way all 1D members are equally popular just look at harry styles then Louis Tomlinson. Harry has his own solo fandom & 1D fans doesn't tell them to "D1e" like toxic Armys does. They have accepted them. It's just Armys gonna be responsible for BTS' downfall.
@ it is killing you isnt it? Hybe tried so hard to shove lsfm down everyones throat… 😂😂😂 where are their daesangs, brand deals? Where is the acknowledgement and respect from people in the entertainment industry from all over the world? … ohh wait… all went to nj!!! 😂😂😂 are you crying yourself to sleep every night, knowing nj has achieved more in 2 years, than lsfm will in their entire careers? 😂😂😂 should we talk about yunjin? Sakura? … naaahhh 😂😂😂
NJ needs to pay the penalty & leave as they have threatened repeatedly. Go ahead & leave with MHJ. They will find out that MHJ will drop them like trash once their contract is cancelled & they leave ADOR & HYBE. No more financial and resources support from HYBE. Let see how successful they can still be.
Treasure are said to be having a comeback so i would think that the funds that BM and Treasure have made with fanmeetings and album sales and tours are going into both BM world tour and Treasures comeback.
I just hope NJ members have their own individual lawyers to protect themselves, not just blindly following MHJ or their own parents. Even if they strongly believe their debut and their success is only because of MHJ, they are more than that. They should have confidence in themselves, they dont belong to just one pd, MHJ. Anyhow, I am sad for them and the fans. Not sorry for MHJ. Directors, managers should not be pretending like a parent figure for their talents.
teddy is failing his group/s because he relies on only himself and isnt getting them the feedback or guidance they really need if they want to be taken seriously as performers they also need to be in charge of improving their own skills too. send them to vocal lessons even if they have debuted cause to me it seems like they have had such a short time to debut that its becoming more and more rushed that they arent getting enough rehearsing in. you cant just shove a group out with an undercooked song with no real direction and expect them to do well?
Toxic would have been better if the chorus was actually memorable. I listened to the whole song waiting for the chorus to come but it never did. It was very confusing.
yves’s album is phenomenal, i looove then artists have their recognizable sound and identity, and you can feel it, i love all the songs especially hashtag, f amazing 😭
Even I'm getting sick of this word flopping. Do you know what that means flopping Is when a group or an artist Isn't selling albums at all. Look at EXO A group who sells millions of albums. their solo careers Members have platinum albums. and million seller albums And big music video Views. And solo Concerts selling out. So How is that a flop That's success
NO HATE Comments Please ! Well i hate to say it i love my girls really love New jeans and also i love Illit they're so talented this all media circus make both of the groups suffer things that was unnecessary but i will keep love this girls but i have points to establish 1-New Jeans need to get therapy, they had pass for a very tough things and if they will stay as GG they we need get out of HYBe and start of fresh again 2-Don't hate Illit they're just girl too, they want to make they're dreams come true too so yeah i love them and wish them to find happiness like i wish for New Jeans girls too 3- I really hate all of the media circus tha MHJ them pass and read a lot of things on the coment section some of you guys open my eyes for one thing, how MHJ manipulate, and one in specific said that the parents of the girls wasn't there when they was sexualized by MHJ and that make me feel disgusted by her even more. And to the end i don"t really agree with the thumbnail i don't think they deserve be disband but i will be always there to suport my girls and its it
Toxic is genuinely so soft and I can’t stand it. Like the couldn’t chose between ballad or pop song. Like I’m not a hater and I’m one of the few people who enjoyed MEOVV but this oof it fell short
Im a bunny but honestly it feels like all this if happened in my life id atleast be a little mature about it and try to avoid the drama so that I can be continued in the industry, as a fan i usually open my phone for content not drama these days nj is more drama than my entire life. P.s Mind u I'm Indian
2. TOXIC was a nice upgrade, i love the softness of the song and the MV is gorgeous but BODY tho... when will teddy stop with his ass formula bro! we don't need more bp rejects. I didn't who made IZNA'S DEBUT SONG but it gave me very teddy vibes (not a compliment) and after checking the writing credits, yep i was right. I just have a genuine question, when will this dude stop using his songs from 2016 and actually make something that meets this generations standards?? the MEOVV girls actually seem like talented idols that deserve so much better than the crap this dude is pulling. Their stage performances are the only thing carrying the group on its back, without the girls themselves this group would have been a complete FLOP!
the way teddy refuses to promote meovv is so frustrating. I’ve seen people say that they’re going for the blackpink formula but even blackpink promoted more than this at debut
Your so right about triples I love all the sub units but we’re getting a lot of stuff and there was 11 versions for their last comeback and their about to go on tour many fans have complained because it really feels like the company is milking the fans
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ si son tan talentosas y tienen a los Bunnys, lo pueden pagar, en cuotas , que les vaya bien y que se queden lejos de todos los artistas de Hybe.
TripleS feels like somebody took NCT concept and turned it into chaos. It took SM few years to realize that graduation system doesn't work the way they expected and it took them even more years to ditch the infinite concept and finally announced last team to be made (NCT Wish). So we'll see how long it will take TripleS's agency to figure out how to manage the group, its subunits and activities
they thought that a pressconference can process the contract termination, its probably violating it, they are too impulsive, theyre acting like spoiled brats, they should hire better lawyers and their parents should be smarter than that, they will end up broke and blacklisted, no company would take the risk against hybe not even the big3 and fans should stop being naive as well coz its not easy to make your own label
For #6, you could say something similar about groups. People think if a comeback doesn't have the same or better numbers, it's automatically a flop, and they're not gonna do better after that. Please, let that narrative die and never come back
Min Heejin has the "if I can't have them, no one can" mentality
No one cares
this really describes situation of mhj
Nobody cares I'm better ☠☠☠😂🎉🇩🇪🙋🏻♂
Wtf are your rambling on about 😂😂😂 worry about your faves 😂😂😂
@@KingAda35th our faves arent disbanding and supporting p3do who told female staff to suck her sa up
All this New Jeans situation proves us that minors DO NOT belong in this industry
YES
Even so, minors can survive if the adults around them dont pull some sht (including the parents)
Nobody cares I'm better ☠☠☠😂🎉🇩🇪🙋🏻♂
Yes, it's not the best place to be. Then it depends on character, who are the members, how's the agency, etc. Two very simple examples: BTS and SHINee.
Nope….if they were legal age back then …they still can’t breach the companies contract….adults would have it harder….even if NJ were minors …they are under the law protection …and can have the upper hand and ADVANTAGE…so they need to carefully handled….cant get that as an adult tho lol………Age does not matter …it’s law…written contracts that come into play…signed by the company, the girls and ofc their parents permission…if you think there backlash was bad….if they were ALL legal….IT WOULD’VE BEEN WORSE AND THEY WOULD BE DISPOSED AND DISBANDED SO FAST…
I'm neither on NJ or Hybe sides just enjoy this drama over popcorn. But til this day i still don't understand NJ's mistreatment narrative. I'm pretty sure they get the best of the best treatment and resource at ADOR while MHJ was still the CEO like iphone and coca cola endorsement. But suddenly, their parents came crying mistreatments left and right and everyone just believe them?
You cant possibly be this stupid? Holy shit 😂😂😂
@@meh7497 Same.
according to hanni, not getting greeted back is bullying and she is getting "bullied"
@ do some research, before embarassing yourself 😂😂😂
they definitely were not getting treated the best any point in their career.
The newjeans situation is getting so old everytime I hear new news about it I just sigh like it's so annoying every two weeks there's something new like atp just stop wrap it up
i dont get where this situation stemmed from in the first place seemed to me like they had a great starting point with hybe?
The girls are blindly supporting MHJ and that's the problem
Honestly poor future anyways
The girls arent dumb and the fact that you think hybe cares for newjeans rven after everything that has come out is just plain delusional and insulting.
@@Ushionaithey never mentioned that they believe Hybe cares for them…
@@Ushionai Where’d they say that in their comment? They didn’t even mention Hybe’s name😭
@@Ushionai this is the problem with most Bunnies, if someone says one bad thing about MHJ you all automatically assume that someone is supporting Hybe, and no, that's not how it goes, there can be more than one bad guy and MHJ is one of the bad guys here
How was Min Heejin even Ceo in the first place? She was a weirdo ever since she worked with SM..💀
Yeah, idk wth Hybe was doing. 😭 obviously not caring about the safety of idols now look where it got them🤦🏽♀️
Some of yall don't understand business. The richest and highest people in every industry are not clean and good people.Companies see being good and moral as a disadvantage and gets you no where big. For example look at Trump , definetly not a good person but knows how to do his job and gets votes. Without doubt MHJ is good at her job and you don't get such talent easily and hybe was willing to give her what she wanted to get her. And clearly with newjeans it paid off.
@@BabyDanny_ it is definitely a lesson learned to hybe i think bang pd needed it
@@Arielaarmy-k7i I agree🫡
@@BabyDanny_ REAL Like are we forgetting what happened with Red Velvet and Taemin?
I don't feel bad for them anymore tho. Their parents? Stupid. The members? Need therapy. Min Heejin? Needs jail time.
This comment‼️ I always say they need therapy, ppl want them to start all over but it’s not that simple.
Yeahh!!! 😂
No one cares
@@ville-c4uno one cares
@@ville-c4u no asked you to care 🥱
1. Isn't also this like the third time that they say goodbye? It has started to lose its effect tbh. I think at the end nothing is going to happen, i also can't take the whole situation seriously anymore. All of that is such a circus
2. I'm glad they're showing a new side, but it's still not that good. And yeah, they been nominated for anything is really funny 😂
8. Yves it's so amazing ❤ i love all her songs
Yeah seriously, at this stage if NewJeans want freedom they can just disband and put a stop to all this mess
@@SimonBreizh they posted something yesterday where there was 5 suitcases.. like leave hybe and go with ur p*do mom, let the other idols get some peace too
But to terminate fee they had to pay huge chunk of money
No one cares
@@ville-c4u and yet you're here...
The NJ girls are really coming off tooooo arrogant to me, crying for a pity party while playing with fire against HYBE (they could have distance themselves from MHJ for the public eye at least but decided not to, so assume consequences girls). I like their songs but I just can't support their mess they brought on themselves... Bunnies tend to protect them by saying they are manipulated by MHJ, but are they really ? Also not forgiving toxic bunnies for the hate they brought on ILLIT, not acceptable. I'll be fine when they disband (what are they waiting for anyway ? seems like they want to have their freedom, but oh wait a minute HYBE is giving them exposure and schedule actually even after all the rumors of cancelling them they're pretty busy, now what? I can't with girls living for drama)
Frr
Never seen a group defend their manager as much as New Jeans. So many other idols like Taemin from Shinee, Jungkook from BTS, Jisung from NCT, IU, Tzuyu from Twice, Yujin from ZeroBaseOne and Eunchae from Le Sserafim also debuted very young. But you don’t see them act like the New Jeans members. Even now almost the whole group is adult.
True @@vixxexo6855
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@@vixxexo6855 at this point it’s not manipulation. The girls want to be manipulated and I feel like not all of them are agreeing with it, some voices in the group are louder than others. There is no way all 5 people have the same mindset, at least there will be doubts. Some members’ voices are not heard; coz this is to me blind solidarity. At the end of the day the girls are not blood related . May be I am selfish but to me I am putting my career before anything else.
1. It's embarrassing with a costume of empowering and I can't take with bunnies thinking they slayed 😑 MHJ, NJs and bunnies want to cause all the DRAMA MA MA MA
No one cares
@@ville-c4uyou are everywhere, bro.. seeking attention like nobody cares about you irl
@@ville-c4u Them why you comment if you don't care 💅 ?
@@ville-c4ulooks like you care tho
Learn some english, or buy a chatgpt subscription! 😂😂 wtf are you rambling on about 😂😂😂
2. teddy needs to stop use the same formula over and over just bc it's somehow catchy - it's annoying and will only be seen as a bp copy. don't get me on the "we are rich and brats and have more money but don't rlly have more to offer" trope yg rides it's boring.
Watch out! There will come monstiez and blinks who will say something like: "no, it's not a copy it's just yg sIgNaTuRe SoUnD, iDeNtItY".
The audacity for NJ to go on a stage thanking and labelling mhj as the CEO while they're complaining about not being respected is peak irony.
No one cares
Where's the lie ? I swear, these ungrateful girls...
@@SimonBreizh I mean they have very obviously been groomed by her so we can’t blame them too much
Nobody cares I'm better ☠☠☠😂🎉🇩🇪🙋🏻♂
@@WonyOnDaZa Honestly, as someone who’s been a victim of manipulation, I don’t fully agree with the idea that we 'can’t blame them too much.' While manipulation is powerful and can blind u to reality, there comes a point where u need to reflect on ur actions and the consequences they might have had on others. Being manipulated doesn’t absolve someone of responsibility when they cross certain lines. It’s complex, but brushing it off as 'not their fault' feels dismissive to everyone affected, including the victim themselves.
1: It's honestly no shock that they're still holding on to Min Hee-jin and even thanking her. They seem to genuinely think they can't succeed without her guiding hand. This is the result of MHJ's influence so don't get surprised. These girls are WAY better off without MHJ. MHJ is just a dark cloud that looms over them. They sure will have a contract termination, but this won't be an easy way there. If anyone thinks that this will be easy for them then I'm sorry, y'all just lack intelligence.
I mean they have very obviously been groomed by her so we can’t blame them too much
@@WonyOnDaZaExactly but it is quite frustrating.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ I know I’m tired of this too
no one cares
@@ville-c4ushut ya mouth.
I'm starting to think MHJ must have something on the parents or the girls themselves. I can't understand why the parents/girls would go to these lengths over one person. They can't be stupid enough to think their kids will still have careers after everything is settled and done. I guess we won't know the whole truth until the girls themselves decide to speak up, now might be too soon cause they're complicit in all of MHJ's schemes but years from now they'll probably try to blame everything on her and write a book called "How one woman ruined our lives."
Les dio dinero y les prometió más, es avaricia
kinda wanna see them in the future finally realising the witch MHJ is and hope they apologise to the ppl they hurt. Would be amazing if they can be friends with Illit later on
😂😂😂 YOU can‘t be stupid enough to think, they have to worry about their careers? 😂😂😂 how many braincells do you have left? 😂😂😂 wtf
because MHJ stepped on other groups to bring the bacon for NJ, thats why they want her so badly ..
@@rebeccaavoca9143 whatever helps you sleep at night 😂😂😂
Every single adult in their lives failed them. It's so sad.. 😭Stop debuting minors pls.
It's only going to change if the consumers stop supporting them. As long as these groups make money nothing will change.
Bro I can't even use the excuse that NJs are young so they don't understand that what min heejin is doing is wrong, like Im younger than all of NJ and even I can tell that Min heejin is messed up, it's common sense, I love NJ so much but now they've decided to fumble their career for some petty woman, I really don't want to see them go, but it's what they brought upon themselves :\
I will say, I agree but keep in mind that they’ve been directed by her since childhood so her influence on them is huge & hard to break. I think their biggest mistake was coming public & not just support her behind the scenes ya know?
Nice try 😂😂😂
@@YTpsychMyths2 yeah, i do agree, it is a shame that this is how newjeans will go, but knowing them we will definitely see the members of newjeans again
Y’all K-pop fans are so fucking weird! Because you guys don’t know what’s Hybe doing to new jeans and min Heejin ! You are wishing bad for them because their loyalty is what makes them successful and the Korean public support them ! Fuck toxic hybe and you !
1. Thanking OUR CEO
are these girls this delulu.. WHICH CEO😅, that pdo lady was kicked out from the position months ago😂
BYE BYE NEWJEANS💃💃
😂😂😂 its okay buddy. Maybe one day youll make some friends (?). Maybe a woman will talk to you. (?) who knows.. 😂😂
Exactly. They have a limited script and just keep repeating it. Not the smartest in the pack.
@ Projecting much ? 😂😂😂
@@KingAda35thwhat are u on my guy
@@bigg3stf4n It appears he eats crayons. The yellow ones, they are the most destructive to mental competency. Whole lot of yellows I’d say.
Honestly, seeing idols at kgma from previous generations, or those who didn't have much impact this year, trying to gain sm and newjeans fans' attention by siding with them and mhj-especially when they regularly target illit, bts and le sserafim, really left a bad taste in my mouth. The whole thing felt incredibly staged, and their willingness to act in that way made me wonder if some of these idols are just plain greedy or easily brainwashed
Yeah and i wonder why nj went because hybe cut ties with kga after they mistreated hybe artists and published anti hybe articles that is why they were the only hybe group there
idk in my opinion the other idols don't know much about the hybe drama except that newjeans is fighting against hybe. And as idols they know what it's like to be under a bad company so that's why they're blindly siding with NJs because they believe hybe is actually mistreating them. After all those idols don't have much time to research about it + they'll be more biased towards the idols than the company + and some of them are friends with NJs/ like them
@@hiyylightI really want to know what other hybe groups think about this. I'm sure their opinions might be different than idols that aren't in hybe. But im really not sure.
😂😂😂 yeah buddy, the entire world has been brainwashed … it for sure isnt you, and all of the other glitt and fearnot incels 😂😂😂
@@hiyylightits also more beneficial to be on the side of nj unless they’re in hybe also the might be sweet girls for the most part so many in the industry might like them
if i were newjeans, i would probably have believe mhj at first, considering theyve def been groomed. but once my entire COUNTRY and MORE were telling me she was in the wrong, i would
start to reconsider. and you cant even claim this is an age thing, bc im the same age as danielle. these girls are old enough to consider both sides of an argument.
Yeah and after those messages revealed in the court of mhj calling them fat pigs and stupid brats
no the thing is no one except hybe and belift is telling them they are wrong. South Korea is siding with NJS, bunnies are, and most fandoms except armies, fearnots and glitz are supporting them. So naturally they will be way over their heads
Easier said then done, because Hybe is a villain to them it makes MHJ seem like a hero
😂😂😂 the entire country and more ??? 😂😂😂 keep embarassing yourself 😂😂😂
@@KingAda35th someone give attention to this dude which he didn't get in his childhood
2. Nah i wish "Body" or "toxic" was their debut song instead of meow. If promoted better and properly, those wouldve done so much better as well. Teddy should work more on promoting them properly imo
No way. I completely disagree. BODY and TOXIC are terrible debut songs. People would've SHAT THEIR GUTS on them if BODY was their debut song because the song sounds like a rejected BP song. TOXIC sounds like a B-side or a pre-release for an album. And TOXIC ain't even a song that's debut worthy.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_sounding like a rejected bp song isnt necessarily bad yk👀
i see majority liking these songs tho, especially toxic. People r comparing them to meow, some r saying they r much better than their actual debut song. And personally, toxic/body over meow anytime anyday >>>>>
@@Gojo-ki-poookieHonestly, I see it the other way around. When a song sounds like it could've been rejected by Blackpink, it just reflects poorly on the group. I mean, take BATTER UP for example-when it dropped, people instantly slapped that “BP reject” label on it without hesitation. It didn’t help BM’s image; it just gave people more reason to criticize. The only ones really into BODY are die-hard MEOVV fans who’ll hype up anything, even if it’s just another recycled BP track. They don’t care if it’s mediocre as long as MEOVV’s name is slapped on it. It’s like they’ll eat up whatever TEDDY puts out, even if it’s just the same old stuff with a different title. The bar is so low that as long as it's familiar, they’re sold, even if everyone else can see it’s just a copy-paste job.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ its quite obvious why some songs by girl groups under yg/ black label will be associated with blackpink regardless. But its the yg formula tbh. But that doesnt mean any song with that formula is just-bad? Considering different music tastes is a key thing here as well. We cant just slap the "oh- bp reject = bad " since there r people who arent fans but who genuinely like these songs better than their actual debut (including me). Its kinda generalizing to say anyone liking that song is a die hard fan. Meov is yet to establish a discography anyway. Remember teddy is yet to put out a whole album with enough bsides for us to judge wether he uses bp formula or there is a variety. How can we say all that when this group legit has only 3 songs rn.
@@Gojo-ki-poookie I get what you're saying about the "YG formula" naturally connecting these groups to Blackpink, but I still think it's more complicated than that. When a song heavily resembles BP’s style, people aren’t just “associating” it with Blackpink-they’re outright saying it sounds like something Blackpink would’ve passed on. That’s different from just following a vibe or concept. It's like these songs don’t just remind listeners of Blackpink; they actually feel like leftover tracks, which ends up reflecting poorly on the group.
Sure, people have different tastes, but there's a difference between genuinely loving a song and hyping up anything just because it’s from a familiar producer. With MEOVV’s BODY, a lot of the positive feedback does seem like it’s coming from die-hard fans who’ll hype up anything tied to TEDDY, whether it’s fresh or not. And if we're being real, the "YG formula" has been recycled so often that it feels lazy rather than exciting. So when listeners label a song as a “BP reject,” it's not necessarily because they dislike the YG sound-they’re picking up on how formulaic and repetitive it’s become.
And, yes, MEOVV has only three songs so far, but that’s exactly why these early releases matter. If TEDDY’s introducing them with tracks that immediately draw “Blackpink reject” comparisons, it’s hard not to wonder if this will be the trend for their future music. We don’t need a full album to see the direction; the pattern’s already there in these initial songs, and it’s not setting MEOVV up to stand on their own feet.
Getting 10 daesang all brand deals strong fandom in 2 and half year not joke maybe it's payola or something but their attention omg hybe boy cookie eta ditto are famous but other songs are lower that lowest still they got strong support and awards I mean we need to study them
@@Gibberish-c9x yeah the songs they released this year....are nothing in compared to other groups released
south korea does love them that's why they blindly support them in this mess, believing they're innocent girls
6. Mhm, there'll always be one or two members that'll have solos selling more than solos of other members. It all comes down to the popularity. Expecting solos to make as much as the group projects is far fetched tbh. Its rarely the case
New jeans playing thé victime for th 100 Time. 😂😂😂
They won't have my sympathy but good luck for them
Den wtf Hybe play ???....mehhhh
@@ZareSamo-cn8pri guess the big bad company who wants to crush them inspite of getting $4M each 😂
I mean they have very obviously been groomed by her so we can’t blame them too much
They are a liability
I am so glad Theboyz are leaving their company and staying together 😭😭they deserve so much better
1. imagine debuting in a big company with an amazing song that trended all of a sudden they said your group copied but whatever it has nothing to do with you but your company
everyone starts insulting you and calling you fake, copy, unoriginal. but whatever it would all fade away within months.
the hate intensifies and you were accused of being a group whose manager mistreated a 'princess' but whatever you didnt do anything wrong
senior artists hoping to us the special groups fans to trend or be a good person speak out about them but not about the hate you are getting, but its okay your company is made some mistakes
suddenly special group decide to leave the company which their fans have been urging them to do , but noooo another hate wave from their fans because apparently you chased them and are trying to replace them.
all this while no senior kpop idol spoke up about your hate , that shows how terrible the kpop idols that spoke up for the other special group are. because they dont care about the hate you are getting.
illit have gone through a lot and it pains me to see that only their ceo is speaking out for them, even when he does he is accused of media play. i hope artistes become good people and speak out and against their own fans attacking illit.
i wish this my comment will go viral.
the award show that decided to invite nj but no hybe artist is just terrible. what did they do.
i hope south korea punishes their rich and influential people or people that commit sa as serious as they are tryig to wipe hybe artist
that was immature and obviously to prove they are on the right side.
before blinks attack me and saying im attacking rose
im not
rose answered that dumb question correctly
what was she meant to say "oh i hate hybe, fvck that stupid company" or "nj are entitled dumbasses"
no, she answered like a mature adult that she is saying "i love them" but bunnies take this is a support, they are just pathetic nincompoops
yes, I'm really sorry for her, the last time Iroha cried, netizens blamed her for pretending
and apart from Hwasa, I haven't seen any other celebrities supporting them even though there are many who support new jeans.
Hwasa has publicly said that she wants to collaborate with them, but unfortunately no one else.
On the other hand, the other group seems to be sprouting support like mushrooms, they have sold the idea that they are victims very well.
@@nobadreviewshere It's not that the move was going well for them, from what I read, it had capacity for 15,000 people but only about 5,000 people attended
1. Yeah they screwed themselves over and they aren't innocent as well since they stood by mhj as she harmed the other groups and they're showing that they are entitled brats like even at that awards show they took Gidle seats and fans trying to say they didn't know when they ran right to their assigned seats so they knew what they were doing they think they're more important than they actually are because mhj got them like that and even she bashed them but hey she's leading them into fire.
I agree.
Totallly agree...!!! They should be held accountable for what they stand during the whole process!!!
Keep on trying inc😂l 😂😂😂
@@KingAda35th No trying necessary on this one. It’s obvious. MHJ said bunnies are stupid. Are you a bunny? I’m sorry, I’m sure it hurts that even MHJ doesn’t like Nj or bunnies. Yikes.
@@R2Mw19 😂😂😂 you just had to embarass yourself. 😂😂😂 hows your fave group doing btw? 😂😂😂 you‘re mother said you were retarted! Hurts doesn‘t it?
How was Meovv nominated but groups like Artms and Kiss of life weren't?
Artms ???? hou is dat ???
@ZareSamo-cn8pr A VERY underated group that imo has one of the best concepts of their generation
@@ZareSamo-cn8pr bro the loona redebut group
From their inception until now, they’ve been surrounded by drama, rumors and controversy. Its too much on either side, I think I’ll just stay away from them. Wishing everyone the best but personally I am into kpop for the music and not the messiness its become.
Mhj already talked about their nonstop whining and complaining through text messages right? Guess she couldn't handle that either 😭
No one cares
I was so shocked when I saw like 10+ kpop idols post support for NewJeans. And no hate but I was like ummm did yall not do research? This was bound to happen
The only one, not doing their research is YOU😂😂😂 where is the support from people from all over the world (in the industry) for lsfm and illit, btw? 😂😂😂
@@KingAda35thare you 🧟🐰?
@@sanyk-t6c i don’t have to guess what you are! 😂😂😂
@KingAda35th you can't, you just 🧟
@ 😂😂😂 keep on trying incel 😂😂😂
This whole newjeans and mhj thing is so jarring, it’s making me less and less interested in newjeans.
Me too ,I can't understand at all FR
Y’all K-pop fans are so fucking weird! Because you guys don’t know what’s Hybe doing to new jeans and min Heejin ! You are wishing bad for them because their loyalty is what makes them successful and the Korean public support them ! Fuck toxic hybe and you !
I also like what you said about Yves.
She’s the only Loona member who really is doing something extremely different than the rest of the girls and I’m proud of her for it. Her music personally isn’t my cup of tea, but I can’t deny her artistry.
As for TripleS I’m seriously agreeing with you.
I wish they would’ve stuck with the main units that lead up to the debut. Everyone knows them and it would have been fair for all the members.
It’s starting to feel too messy…and idk how to truly feel about it :/
What’s horrifying to me is how they have no real support system. Everyone from the CEO’s to their own parents see them as piggy banks. Their best interests come after that. On top of that, they entered and grew up in this industry so young. I can’t imagine what this training, public attention, harassment and battles will do to their mental health.
Minors-especially as young as they were-shouldn’t debut. Period. Hell, Don’t even think about going into this industry unless you’re self reliant and can get the representation you deserve.
Nobody cares I'm better ☠☠☠😂🎉🇩🇪🙋🏻♂
They are no minors anymore. Or only one.
They're old enough to know exactly what they're doing
@@giovannabenso1754 all the girls sans minji were minors when the debuted. They trained for longer. Most of them are legally adults now, but they still lack independence and adult experience.
3. Okay so intl fans are too forgiving but this one time we're not forgiving SM for what happened to Seunghan suddenly we're the villains and we need to let it go
1. Idc- i just know ill be in denial if or when the news of their disbandment comes out. It'll be a hard pill to swallow
They could just disband bcs ador just sort it out and stop supporting
like why would you go livestream to say bad things about your company and then expect people to feel bad for you
I don’t know how I feel about you putting “it’s what they deserve” in your thumbnail cuz they don’t deserve any of this both the adults in this situation aren’t doing their proper jobs. At the end of the day they were minors so I understand why they felt that way. The girls need to realize not even minhjin (or whatever her name is) doesn’t care about them
It's just typicl youtube thumbnail clickbait, dont read too much into it
Majority of those girls are ADULTS... stop babying them, they arent brainless
this youtuber and her followers are very anti newjeans, even with the hybe leakage of data they were in denial. They think NJ is equally as reliable for ador and hybe's public feud as MHJ or hybe officials. Its better to let them be than trying to reason with them.
Only hyein is minor all the other members are adults
@@z3nk1n47because they don't baby them they are dumb adults who are supporting a evil woman
0:19 OldShorts 😂
My. Jaw. Dropped. 🤣
😂😂😂
Did we all notice that there were even the only hybe idols to attend
@@justhope227 people were saying that that ceremony was organized or something like that by a MHJ's friend.... i don't know if that's true, but it's definitely sus
@@Arizzu_98 hybe has cut ties with that kga because of how they treated hybe artists
@@Arielaarmy-k7i 😲
@@Arizzu_98 I also heard this too
@@Arielaarmy-k7i but the votes I saw was actually bad
1. njs fans crying about ppl pointing out that these women (believe it or not, their childish concept can only fool y'all to a certain point) desperately destroy their own careers over an old obsessed woman when they could just look forward and grow from there on but bye bye🥱🥱
Nobody cares I'm better ☠☠☠😂🎉🇩🇪🙋🏻♂
They are „destroying“ their careers. 😂😂😂 how clueless are you? 😂😂😂
Y’all K-pop fans are so fucking weird! Because you guys don’t know what’s Hybe doing to new jeans and min Heejin ! You are wishing bad for them because their loyalty is what makes them successful and the Korean public support them ! Fuck toxic hybe and you !
I actually liked "Toxic" but _that_ noise in the background (idk how to describe it, but I hope you know what I'm talking about) gets on my nerves so badly that makes me wish I was deaf
I know exactly what you mean. It’s like a rattly bass or something and it’s an instant migraine trigger. The song was ok but that noise ruined any chance I had of liking it.
Ik what you're saying it's like soft gunshots
If NewJeans’ members stayed in silence from the beginning, all this drama could be avoided.
I will say this again. Kpop Stan’s were against Mhj and nj when they started bc of her pedo allegations and they were from hybe . Now that they are against hybe all of a sudden all kpop industry is supporting them.. that channel “Angelina girl” doing videos dressed as Mhj like this is some kind of joke, reading nj fans comments as if is the real facts.. is getting annoying how hypocritical kpop and nj fans are getting. Still no real proof that hybe is throwing them to the dust . Now they are looking for validation from other idols that mentioned nj in support. Is ridiculous. I want them gone already.
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Yeah buddy there is no proof… 😂😂 keep embarrassing yourself…. Unfortunately for you, theyre not going anywhere 😂😂😂
@ tell me the list of the proof…… if 12 ppl liked my comment that means im not the only one with this opinion….
@@KingAda35thproof for what ?
@@yomarysanchez1808proof for what exactly?
1. "Give them a daesang so that they can cry and earn sympathy"
Seriously, NJ flopped this year yet they get a daesang. Wow
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq ATTENDANCE AWARD, even Gidle dint perform well this year, but still received daesang.. that whole award show waa rigged
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq wasn't that the award ceremony where no other Hybe artists weren't invited to?
NJ did not ‘flop’ this year. So what it was not as ‘viral’ as get up, both their Korean and Japanese albums this year performed amazing. How sweet was only beaten by supernova a monster hit. If this is your idea of flopping you’re delusional.
@@Arizzu_98 Yes, and hosted by a company that's known for publishing anti-Hybe articles.
@@dominiquechantel8978million of CHILDREN love NewJeans. CHILDREN = views..
0:15 you literally GAGGED me
Old shorts 😂😂
I hate how they act like victim and they cant see the bigger picture and blind loyalty to MHJ. Tone deaf too
we get shitted on for pointing out that newjeans arent victims, the delusion around that group is insane and unhealthy. they were fine at hybe they are clowning themselves if they think they are victims
I don't know what to say about the NJ matter because what are they doing I will not even say I feel bad for them cause I don't they were stupid from the very beginning
The moment they pulled off that livestream I know that it was the end for them
😂😂😂 lacking some braincells, are we? 😂😂😂 may do some research, huh? 😂😂😂
6: No. Not clownery. ✨ DELUSIONAL✨ Thinking every member will hit the same level of solo success is honestly a bit delusional. Each one has different strengths, fanbases, and vibes, and not all of that translates when they go solo. A lot depends on timing, the music they release, and how the industry responds, which just isn’t going to be the same across the board. Expecting them all to blow up equally? That's just not how it works.
The comment section here shows that mature PPL still exists .
Also nj will not end or disband i think it's yet another play
Also the video of other idols reacting to them shld not be such a shock coz yes at some point the companies do treat artist in a bad way and by saying those things on stage maybe they gained some sympathy for the fact that they as an artist if they are gone will be bad but that doesn't justify their illogical demand that is clearly unprofessional.
😂😂😂 upset nj is outdoing your faves, without releasing any music?
@Kitty_missss 😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂 you tried ... 😂😂😂😂 how are the views of your fave? where are the wins? brand deals? where is the support, respect and acknowledgement from people in the entertainment industry all over the world? ... oh wait ... all is going to nj 😂😂😂 ... Someone is salty that amidst the conflict, and without releasing any music, your fave cant keep up! 😂😂😂😂
2: I’d say TOXIC really suits Narin. She’s able to put so much feeling into her singing, and you can genuinely feel it through her voice. The song itself is simple and has a calm, sad vibe without being too intense. I like the rhythm-it gives space for their vocals to shine. Plus, I heard Narin and Gawon helped write it, which is honestly a solid start for them. Overall, it's a decent track from them. It's not bad or terrible like MEOW. That song is just TOO UNBEARABLE for me.
People are treating them like poor little angels against the big bad Hybe and was forced to threatened their contracts. No. They made a CHOICE. literally no one asked them or push them to do so.
Baemon’s tour is a strategic move by YG imo. Instead of sending them to the end of year award shows their goal was to get them known internationally. I respect YG expanding out of Korean popularity.
I think it's more than that, we're not going to promote them, we're going to fill our pockets. To fill a concert, people have to know you beforehand, it's not a promo, if people don't know you beforehand, they won't pay to see you.
2: Icl, TEDDY is failing these girls. I like TOXIC, but BODY & MEOW are absolutely disappointing. They're giving a group of talented girls, mediocre song's AND on top of that, TEDDY ain't even promoting them like a normal company would do for their newly debuted groups.
he comes from yg and yg didnt exactly do a good enough job on some of his bigger named groups or idols. what does anyone expect atp?
6. That's so true! Also these number obsessed fans will try to gaslight u into feeling bad if u don't take the time outta ur day to stream 30x a day for the soloist.
5: Fun fact: THE BOYZ'S NEW ALLEGED NAME IS "THE NEW BOYZ". The group's name is bare creative 🤧😳😬😭
it should've been The Boys
@@hiyylightwow even more creative.
Nooooooo
Please I so prefer the boyz
😭
MHJ will accuse them of copying her, for using the word new in her name 🤣
@@shinichikudofirstanimecrus7256 yea but they can't keep the boyz
4: It's definitely a fat flex but Idk, their discography is kinda meh? I would've waited another year or so and let them go on a world tour 🤷🏻♀️ It's a bold and confident move for YG todo, but I'd still wait anyways.
To be real all this situations not going to happen if Min Heejin didn't cause a chaos from beginning.Despite their huge popularity and influence, I didn't expect them to fall so fast in just a 2 years.
Sure looks like they’re falling 😂😂😂 what are you rambling on about? You do know, if they leave hybe, it’s not going to do anything for your faves, right?
Y’all K-pop fans are so fucking weird! Because you guys don’t know what’s Hybe doing to new jeans and min Heejin ! You are wishing bad for them because their loyalty is what makes them successful and the Korean public support them ! Fuck toxic hybe and you !
It’s about time.
I’ve genuinely never been more annoyed and tired of drama more than this
They are blowing it far more out of proportion, their statement alone shows how much they do not care for their career and what will soon follow after this.
HYBE better let them go, as they say. *Be Careful For What You Wish For*
I love NewJeans but they seriously need some mental therapy or else they will start to think that MHJ shit is an angel.Kinda sad seeing people hate Newjeans over here but I cant deny that they are thanking that shit when they won a daesang.... That shit really has manipulated them girls. i hope they leave hybe and everything gets sorted....
You don't see difference between hate and critic, WE don't hate NJ - we criticize members for stupid loyalty to MHJ....btw i Hate Hybe as company and most of their fandoms, because they are toxic for kpop. WE had already some similar case with fifty fifty, shitty company who treat their idols, who spread info that memebers are greedy and other bs, idols which only fault was they wanted better, trash CEO. But already huge amout of fans(toxic) hate members who left company. BUt the different is that NJ girls didn;t have problems with health treat, and they were payment...members of FF don't. SO if you want see a real "Hate" look on comments in Fifty Fifty old MVs!
@@KallenSCyou are absolutely right but I really saw some people hating new jeans saying they should disband and get away from K-pop and stuff like that, i agree I couldn't realize the difference between criticizing and hating. But about the fifty fifty one, i already know how much hate they got(plus criticizing). thank you for correcting and telling me the truth
If new jeans disbands it'll be really hard for them to redebut , even if a company shows interest in them knowing these girls they'd probably ask that companies ceo to make mhj the ceo while mhj itself has 15 lawsuits to deal with
Bruh kpop is dying so bad
& it’s just bcuz companies can’t bother to churn out good shit
There’s so many good artists out there how hard is it to hire some of them
#4 Expected The world tour from Yg for Babymonster, Yg needs MONEY...
Yg is running on losses, treasure's tour isnt enough for them to survive neither does bm's cbs bringing in huge profits
Which company doesn't need money with all the investment made on bm especially 😂I think the tour is a good idea but it's going to take a toll on the girls,wish them all the best
@@mavisamevorshie1302 ofc every company need money, but yg is escply running on losses, bp aint coming back anytime soon... they dont have good profit, they will make the max out BM SEA fans
1. At first I felt sorry for them, but each time it seems like a group of brats who think that everyone has to obey them, because it's the second time they make those imperatives, what did they expect?? That they were going to say: "no, no, don't go, without you the company doesn't exist..." or they were going to let them go with their name, songs and everything, just because of their pretty face, with the money they have invested in all of it.
I suppose that if they really fulfill their ultitatum this time, the difficult part will begin for them, until now they have been respected for being important artists for the company, but if they declare war, I doubt very much that they will continue to protect them.
2.It's clear that they don't deserve the nomination, not yet at least. They are a group that has potential, but so far everything they have released is forgettable.
4. Another YG group that they aren't managing properly, it seems like they need cash now that Blankpink isn't in the equation, but they are rushing them into everything.
9. Fans are not an eternal cash cow, so many comebacks in such a short time will have the opposite effect and they will sell less and less.
there are people that take New Jeans seriously? wtf dude!? 😂
They’ve been directed by her since childhood so her influence on them is huge & hard to break. I think their biggest mistake was coming public & not just support her behind the scenes.
Ador was created in November 2021. Childhood?
I hope MHJ leaving has started their wake up call. Tho I do think the only road forward for NJS is to disband and get a lot of therapy, now that MHJ has resigned.
That's the problem with Armys. They literally hate solos bc someembers are more successful than others & it gonna will ruin BTS' as a whole group. Not every Army or solo fan of a member should be bullied just bc every member isn't their cup of tea or bc they don't enjoy music of other members as compared to the one they choose to stan. Those solos were part of Army fandom & when Bts will cb they'll support the group again but I don't see it happening bc if they'll choose to bully solos they should also stop expecting them to support bts as whole & now armys will say (they can stfu) but trust me more than half of Army fandom has left, either as solos or into other grps or just fell out of Kpop & won't turn back ever & it's concerning for their part too. They are literally fighting with solos like their life depends upon vanishing them but trust me its those solos who are carrying members.
Take example: (According to ot7, a real ot7 treats all members equally then considering rapline's numbers I can bet that bts would fail after reunion. While, maknae line especially Jungkook has WAY HIGHER numbers than rapline members & around 50%+ support comes from solos & around 20% from GP & remaining ot7 (considering Rapline's number & their "ot7 stream all members equally" agenda). & Most of the solos are now unwilling for reunion & they're against bts & they were the same people who were part of Armys once so Armys have no idea how much harm they're inviting to reunion of bts by boycotting & bvllying solos of members. They even bvlly those solos who don't badmouth abt other members. & They can't act shvt solos bc no way all 1D members are equally popular just look at harry styles then Louis Tomlinson. Harry has his own solo fandom & 1D fans doesn't tell them to "D1e" like toxic Armys does. They have accepted them. It's just Armys gonna be responsible for BTS' downfall.
"Old Shorts" 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 upset, they havent even released a song in months, and admits all of the drama they are still outdoing your fave? 😂😂😂
@ 😂😂😂 i dont know… breaking records, daesang, brand deals etc…. 😂😂😂 someones upset lsfm did all of those extra services for nothing 😂😂😂
@ it is killing you isnt it? Hybe tried so hard to shove lsfm down everyones throat… 😂😂😂 where are their daesangs, brand deals? Where is the acknowledgement and respect from people in the entertainment industry from all over the world? … ohh wait… all went to nj!!! 😂😂😂 are you crying yourself to sleep every night, knowing nj has achieved more in 2 years, than lsfm will in their entire careers? 😂😂😂 should we talk about yunjin? Sakura? … naaahhh 😂😂😂
@@seastar-qw2qg 😂😂😂😂😂😂 i really don't know why you keep doing this to yourself? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@seastar-qw2qg "answering ... with long answers". too much to comprehend?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 mhj and nj should work and make music instead of busy with all these, so unprofessional!
You should learn some english 😂😂😂
NJ needs to pay the penalty & leave as they have threatened repeatedly. Go ahead & leave with MHJ. They will find out that MHJ will drop them like trash once their contract is cancelled & they leave ADOR & HYBE. No more financial and resources support from HYBE. Let see how successful they can still be.
So were gonan forget that for a group thats done they won a daesang and like 50 percent of the idols there were supporting them😭
Give treasure a world tour ❌
Overwork treasure by sending them to countless fanmerts in Japan to help fund baby monster's world tour ✔️
Treasure are said to be having a comeback so i would think that the funds that BM and Treasure have made with fanmeetings and album sales and tours are going into both BM world tour and Treasures comeback.
I just hope NJ members have their own individual lawyers to protect themselves, not just blindly following MHJ or their own parents. Even if they strongly believe their debut and their success is only because of MHJ, they are more than that. They should have confidence in themselves, they dont belong to just one pd, MHJ.
Anyhow, I am sad for them and the fans. Not sorry for MHJ. Directors, managers should not be pretending like a parent figure for their talents.
Some of the GG dances have a slightly 'stripper vibe'.
Please talk about mhj being a creep but still having supporters ☠️
Creep how ?
teddy is failing his group/s because he relies on only himself and isnt getting them the feedback or guidance they really need if they want to be taken seriously as performers they also need to be in charge of improving their own skills too. send them to vocal lessons even if they have debuted cause to me it seems like they have had such a short time to debut that its becoming more and more rushed that they arent getting enough rehearsing in. you cant just shove a group out with an undercooked song with no real direction and expect them to do well?
They are VERY POPULAR opinions:) and mostly i agree with all of them;)
Phantom Siita is also going on a World Tour only 6 Months after debuting. I think that was the quickest I have ver seen a Group go on a World Tour
I just know I need mhj to leave bts members the hell alone. They already deal with enough nonsense and bs…
Toxic would have been better if the chorus was actually memorable. I listened to the whole song waiting for the chorus to come but it never did. It was very confusing.
It’s so hard to feel bad for newjeans at this point 😭
yves’s album is phenomenal, i looove then artists have their recognizable sound and identity, and you can feel it, i love all the songs especially hashtag, f amazing 😭
Even I'm getting sick of this word flopping. Do you know what that means flopping Is when a group or an artist Isn't selling albums at all. Look at EXO A group who sells millions of albums. their solo careers Members have platinum albums. and million seller albums And big music video Views. And solo Concerts selling out. So How is that a flop That's success
Anyway, new jeans!!!❤❤❤
NO HATE Comments Please !
Well i hate to say it i love my girls really love New jeans and also i love Illit they're so talented this all media circus make both of the groups suffer things that was unnecessary but i will keep love this girls but i have points to establish
1-New Jeans need to get therapy, they had pass for a very tough things and if they will stay as GG they we need get out of HYBe and start of fresh again
2-Don't hate Illit they're just girl too, they want to make they're dreams come true too so yeah i love them and wish them to find happiness like i wish for New Jeans girls too
3- I really hate all of the media circus tha MHJ them pass and read a lot of things on the coment section some of you guys open my eyes for one thing, how MHJ manipulate, and one in specific said that the parents of the girls wasn't there when they was sexualized by MHJ and that make me feel disgusted by her even more.
And to the end i don"t really agree with the thumbnail i don't think they deserve be disband but i will be always there to suport my girls and its it
Toxic is genuinely so soft and I can’t stand it. Like the couldn’t chose between ballad or pop song. Like I’m not a hater and I’m one of the few people who enjoyed MEOVV but this oof it fell short
Im a bunny but honestly it feels like all this if happened in my life id atleast be a little mature about it and try to avoid the drama so that I can be continued in the industry, as a fan i usually open my phone for content not drama these days nj is more drama than my entire life. P.s Mind u I'm Indian
2. TOXIC was a nice upgrade, i love the softness of the song and the MV is gorgeous but BODY tho... when will teddy stop with his ass formula bro! we don't need more bp rejects. I didn't who made IZNA'S DEBUT SONG but it gave me very teddy vibes (not a compliment) and after checking the writing credits, yep i was right. I just have a genuine question, when will this dude stop using his songs from 2016 and actually make something that meets this generations standards?? the MEOVV girls actually seem like talented idols that deserve so much better than the crap this dude is pulling. Their stage performances are the only thing carrying the group on its back, without the girls themselves this group would have been a complete FLOP!
BODY is ass (lmfao) but their STUDIO CHOOM performance is tew good~
Stop crying
@@UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV your mom is crying cuz she birthed you
@@sanainthesky read my username lol
Letter to myself is so underrated !
Can somebody school me on the Min Heejin and New Jeans drama? I never knew all that much abt it
Newjeans are doing a fifty fifty
the way teddy refuses to promote meovv is so frustrating. I’ve seen people say that they’re going for the blackpink formula but even blackpink promoted more than this at debut
Your so right about triples I love all the sub units but we’re getting a lot of stuff and there was 11 versions for their last comeback and their about to go on tour many fans have complained because it really feels like the company is milking the fans
New jeans need a wake up call, and I hope this will be it for them
Min heejin just resigned from hybe like really
1) HYBE needs to terminate these spoil brats contract already. Without HYBE, NewJeans is NOTHING!
Que mini jeans pague primero
@@Rhae-s9fThat's gonna have a fat strain and affect on them.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ si son tan talentosas y tienen a los Bunnys, lo pueden pagar, en cuotas , que les vaya bien y que se queden lejos de todos los artistas de Hybe.
@@Rhae-s9fThey can but it's definitely gonna cost them a TON of money.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ y es por éso que hacen el teatro, pero es lo que corresponde.
TripleS feels like somebody took NCT concept and turned it into chaos. It took SM few years to realize that graduation system doesn't work the way they expected and it took them even more years to ditch the infinite concept and finally announced last team to be made (NCT Wish). So we'll see how long it will take TripleS's agency to figure out how to manage the group, its subunits and activities
they thought that a pressconference can process the contract termination, its probably violating it, they are too impulsive, theyre acting like spoiled brats, they should hire better lawyers and their parents should be smarter than that, they will end up broke and blacklisted, no company would take the risk against hybe not even the big3 and fans should stop being naive as well coz its not easy to make your own label
2. I'm still trying to unhear "Body"
I absolutely hate that. That was a rejected BP song. Argue with a wall if you think otherwise.
For #6, you could say something similar about groups. People think if a comeback doesn't have the same or better numbers, it's automatically a flop, and they're not gonna do better after that. Please, let that narrative die and never come back