Frenchy Reacts to Russian Revolution Pt 1
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- A Frenchy reacts to Russian Revolution Pt 1 by Oversimplified!
Let's breat down the part 1 of this series on the Russian Revolution, up until the beginning of WW1.
Original video:
• The Russian Revolution...
#oversimplified #russia #russianhistory #russianrevolution #lenin
See you on Monday for part 2, and have a nice weekend :)
Always love to hear the De-simplification narration for Oversimplified 😅
haha thanks!
Tsar Alexander the Second is actually ranked high in the list of best Russian rulers (Catherine the Great is of course at Number One if not Number Two)
I personally find him to be a fascinating figure.
I also find it fascinating that for all the reforms he implemented to improve the lives of the Russian people, the response was multiple attempts on his life.
Russian here. :)
3:20 I would say that the Russian tsars actually wanted transformations. Maybe not always as radical as the adoption of the constitution, but they still wanted to. Often the main problem on the path of transformation was the aristocracy. It was aristocracy who often did not allow the problem of serfdom to be solved, aristocracy often hindered industrialization and periodically opposed liberal reforms. I am not saying that the tsars were good and the aristocracy was bad. However, if we look at what was done, at the reforms that were carried out (especially under Alexander II), we will see that the tsars sought some transformations
Thanks, it's great to have your reaction! The parallels with France are strong: the country was in desperate need of reform, Louis 16 knew that, but he never managed to impose himself on the aristocracy, which ultimately held too much power. The aim of a ruling class will always be to stay in power...
I have just finished watching all of the Epic History Napoleon reactions of yours, and you definitely have yourself a new subscriber. :)
Thank you very much 😃
And here I am enjoying my lunchtime treat, I do love oversimplified, it's the first history inspired channel I ever subscribed to, love his humor, what a fascinating history of the tsars, the nightmare fuel for me was the picture of Lenin's brother, I saw an early David bowie😮. And of course Stalin meets the wild west, I'm sure there's a movie there. And may I say best wishes on your novel, I'm sure it will be a success, you have a way with words. On an unrelated note, I have been seeing adds on every network on t.v. here for a new movie called ministry of ungentlemanly war, do you or anyone on this panel recommend this? It looks fascinating but I'm leery of movies being hyped so much. Thank you as always for the video and thoughtful commentary, happy Friday everyone and a fun and safe weekend
I've just had a quick google of Ministry of Ungentelmanly warfare, and it looks very intriguing! We'll see. Otherwise, in the same genre, there's the brilliant SAS Rogue Heroes series. Thanks for your words of encouragement and have a great weekend!
Intrigued to hear you are writing, have you had anything published? if so what. Please keep us updated on your current work. Sorry I’m a little off topic. Of course here in England we had king Charles the first who tried the “ god given right to rule”, when challenged, we had the English civil war. Of course royalty was restored with Charles second, but his powers were tempered by paliament.
Thank you very much, this is my first novel and I've been working on it since about 2021. It's a looooooong way to go to get published. But if it does get published, don't worry I'll be shouting it from the video! Reflecting on the great revolutions, I think England's allowed a transition to a more participatory regime with a more balanced distribution of power that modernised the monarchy and allowed it to remain so stable. Quite remarkable!
@@ToonStory-fh4gn I think Marx writing in Britain (and drinking in Bloomsbury pubs) made it clear that the communist revolution was not going to start there. Having a middle class doesn't make a receptive society for revolution. Russia of course had no such burden. King Edward VII, Kaiser Wilhelm II, and the Tsar were all cousins. Tsar Nicholas was an admiral in the Royal Navy. They took vacations together. Queen Victoria deliberately arranged marriages for her brilliant daughters with realms she hoped to transform into constitutional monarchies like the UK. Victoria's plan was audacious if insanely optimistic. Too bad it didn't work.
Heck yeah, I completely agree with your intro. That is a big reason I enjoy your channel. Working with both ukranians and Russians, and with some who have parents from both, ultimately amazingly we are all able to coexist. It made me fascinated again with history and current events, which I went to school for.
We must remember our biases when dealing with things like "fear" and the "unknown" or "different" things.
Thank you very much. We all are biased in a way or another and it is what makes out perspective unique and valuable 😃
I appreciate your opinions, thanx for sharing, and the history too.
Thank you very much!
Nobody expects the Russian Okhrana!. Our missions are...fear..surprise...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Tsar.
Dude you just scared me 😨😂
The Russian Revolution really changed the game in world affairs for the 20th century. Much like how the French Revolution did so for at least the first half of the 19th century.
oh yes, big times!
6:30 - you are right on at usual. It bothers my a little bit how much we still sort of looks past some the negative parts of our own history while magnifying those in societies such as Russias.
While we didnt have serfdom in Sweden in this era. We did have institutions that had similar traits which didnt formally disappear until after WWII. But it isnt really talked about at all
Time Ghost did a great short episode on this a while back titled "Sweden abolished slavery in 1945?". It is really interesting. Check it out if you have five minutes over
Exactly, it's always the same trap: forcing the features of a narrative to romanticize it even more. If you look at the condition of workers in France at the same time, it's pretty frightening. I had no idea about this late abolition, I imagine it's a legal quirk? I'll have a look at it, you've piqued my interest (as always haha). Thanks bro!
It would be great for your reaction to "37 days". This was a 3 part docu drams on BBC in 2014. It covers the 37 days before World War I, from the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria on 28 June 1914 to the United Kingdom declaring war on Germany on 4 August 1914.
Yes, this documentary sometimes comes up in my comments. As soon as I find a bit of time (hard at the moment) I'll try to get a bit more interested in it, it's exactly the kind of subject that fascinates me. It's exactly the kind of subject I'm passionate about. Thank you
the german Kaiser was nowhere near as independent as a Tsar. There was a relatively influential parlament (that Bismarck fought great battles with, which shows that it had power). And of course powerful local Kings like in Bavaria or Saxony kind of forshadowing federalism (with a feudal twist). Authoritarian yes, but not from a single person.
And as early as Frederick the Great there were legal reforms in Prussia enforcing the same laws on everybody. And it mostly worked. Something hard to imagine in Russia even today, let alone in feudal times. So i guess the claims of Russia being behind are kind of ok.
Yes, Russia was far ahead in terms of autocracy, but there were also checks and balances from the nobility. No autocrat is a total autocrat. As for Germany, I was mainly referring to the power of the state as a whole, not just the Kaiser, which doesn't fit with the word "autocrat". Thank you very much for your enlightening comment!
Another very helpful commentary. 👍👍 "Oversimplified" is a bit 'wearing'. So your commentary is a great improvement. As the story is told, some of the events which lead to revolution seemed finely balanced on the genetic defect in Alexei. With a healthy Alexei and without Rasputin might the family have survived the revolution, or were their deaths inevitable (removing the figureheads of those opposing revolution)?
"Reaction" seems an understatement. Maybe "reaction and commentary"?
You mentioned the Industrial revolution spreading from the UK to France and Germany. AFAIK, Jacquard's loom's pattern reading mechanism inspired part of Charles Babbage's 'computer'. So there were important exchange of technologies. I remember from school a story about Edward Jenner, who invented the small-pox vaccination, being honoured by Napoleon. IIRC Napoleon allowed Jenner to travel through France, and released prisoners at Jenner's request, even though he was at war with Britain. Our histories are woven more intricately than some might prefer to believe.
I come from the North East of England, County Durham, which had a very large coal mining industry. Coal powered the industrial revolution. However conditions for workers were tough. My father, some uncles, and a grand father were miners. My Dad didn't want to talk about it. The little he let slip sounded horrible, and that was mid 20th century. His pit closed while I was still a child. Then he went to work in a factory (making tire moulds, eg. for Michelin).
I have no idea if you enjoy traditional folk music. However You and Monsieur Hubert _might_ find the story told in this song historically interesting:
_The Unthanks perform The Testimony of Patience Kershaw_ ruclips.net/video/wmhACB1ZPQM/видео.html
(4min 16sec) It's performed by the Unthank sisters (not a common UK family name, but not rare in the North East) singing in a traditional folk style. The lyrics are modern (AFAICT 1969) based on:
*_Testimony Gathered by Ashley's Mines Commission_*
_"Parliamentary Papers, 1842, vols. XV-XVII, Appendix I, pp. 252, 258, 439, 461; Appendix II, pp. 107, 122, 205. The second of the three great reports embodies the results of the investigation into the conditions of labor in the mines made by Lord Ashley's Mines Commission of 1842. The Mines Act of 1842 that resulted prohibited the employment in the mines of all women and of boys under thirteen."_
The 'testimony' of Patience is sad. It's easy to find by searching for that title and her name.
Summary: Patience Kershaw was 17yo, one of 10 children. Her father had died a year earlier. Her job was "women's work", pushing 300 cwt (15.24 tonnes, 15,240 kg) tubs of coal underground from the coal face.
I have a vague feeling commenting on folk songs about real history, _might_ be another possible stream for you; almost like 'music reactions'. Just a small, likely irrelevant, thought.
Best Wishes. ☮
Thank you very much! I think that if a regime collapses because of a family crisis, then that means that the system was doomed. The real crisis was the First World War, Rasputin is there for folklore. All my family come from the north of France, a land marked by coal mines, and I remember being marked by a visit to a mine when I was a child. That's another reason why there are working-class traditions, a strong sense of solidarity and regional pride. Thanks for the music recommendation, it'll be perfect to listen to in the quiet this Sunday with Hubert!
@@ToonStory-fh4gn Thank you for replying. I agree with "... if a regime collapses because of a family crisis, then that means that the system was doomed". I don't know much Russian history, so the revolution seems inevitable. But, was there a relative in the Tsars family who could have become Tsar?
The path of British history is landmarked by 'family crisis'. The UK Monarchy jumped across ancestral branches, or even changed family, and survived. We don't call those 'successful invasion' or 'revolution', but AFAICT that's because the Monarchy stayed within wealth and aristocracy. The system continued.
If the only living child of Elizabeth II were prince Andrew, the UK might have a 'constitutional crisis'. I suspect it'd be 'solved' nowadays by skipping him and going to the next generation. If QEII had no surviving descendents I think Monarchy might have jump across ancestral branches.
Thank you for telling me about your family and history. I agree about working-class traditions. Some industries have very strong connection. I imagine hard, risky work creates strong fellowship (like militaries). Banding together to improve their lives, and fight for each others rights created organisations that still survive, even after the industry has almost disappeared. There is still the 'Durham Miners' Gala' celebrated each summer.
Does the North of France still have surviving mining-related organisations?
You probably know the story about why the UK wasn't a founding member of the EU.
I'd prefer not to know if you, or Hubert, disliked the song. It breaks my heart thinking of a 17yo girl recounting that story of her young life.
Best Wishes. ☮
“I’m a bit inclined to equate it with religion”
So am I. I’m…not a fan of Marxism.
Regarding Communism, I’d say that the only country that has really managed to make it work is Vietnam. (I’m not counting the PRC because it’s economy didn’t start to really take off until Deng’s economic reforms were implemented)
It is interesting that people, comparing the standard of living in the Russian Empire and European powers, take into account the entire territory of Russia and compare it with the metropolises of Britain/France and so on. Many people forget about the European powers' possessions in Africa and Asia.
Woah, good luck with your writing)
Thank you! I believe that the overwhelming majority of Europeans (myself included) find it difficult to conceptualise what such a large country is. As far as the colonies outside mainland France are concerned, it should also be pointed out that France considered Algeria to be a department in its own right.
By the Way the Russian Imperial Okhrana Secret Police wasn't actually as Aggressive and Brutal as Oversimplified Portrayed Them in Fact they were Very Lenient and Sought only to Take Action on Real Threatening Criminals not the Poor
What's more, they worked with very limited resources: a few thousand men at most, which is a very small number.
@@ToonStory-fh4gn Yeah
Nicholas II was real socialist (much more than Lenin and Stalin) - founder of social state in Russia with high level of living standarts and economical prosperity
I am really curious to know more about the opinion of russian people on Nicholas II
@@ToonStory-fh4gn in deep objective reality all the narratives about Nicholas II, accepted in the West as indisputable facts (weak tsar, non-liberal, extra luxurious life, Rasputin, bad influence of "german" wife, the "poverty" of Russian people , bad life of workers peasants etc), is a black legend-fake. All that the western man have learned about Nicholas2 is on ~90-95% the pure lie (as well as in Bolshevik propaganda - the West and the Bolsheviks are united here in a common lie)/ All that filthy lie & bullshit was invent for indulgence of the West and russian liberal traitors-organizers of the coup in support of criminal "revolution" ( palace-military coup d etate) against Nicholas II in 1917... Nicholas was the best ruler in history of Russia, may be in history of the world. He created a flourishing exuberant society of Russian golden age and was founder of Russian true socialism, he improved the system of social wallfare, best in the world laws for workers, life standarts of lower classes was in 1913 the highest in history of Russia (including current days)
The Russo-Japanese War is outright hilarious. The sheer amount of incompetence on the Russian side…
The armies of Russia/the USSR HAVE at times been competent and capable, but for some reason their navies have ALWAYS been awful.
Great reaction again mate. As someone who is interested in Russian history, I must say that I am impressed by your knowledge of Russia. However, I would like to make a video suggestion to you regarding the concept of "educational dictatorship" that you mentioned at 17:00 . Perhaps the most successful and unique example of this concept in practice concerns the way Mustafa Kemal Atatürk transformed the Turkish people, an Islamic society, into a secular and modern society under the guidance of French idea of laicité with educationel dicdatorship. and also a reason why i admire French society as a young turkish historian.
ruclips.net/video/XgjiJHV8P0w/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Video is from youtuber kraut and about all turkish history. The part i reccomend at part VII. 1 hour 9th minute to end. It would even better if u check all video but its a bit long. Maybe you can do part by part if you interested.
Oh, your video looks great! Nice recommendation, I'll try to investigate it. Do you know Jabzy, who has made a series of very detailed videos on the history of the Middle East, particularly during the 19th and 20th centuries? Thanks very much, I'm really glad you enjoyed it. Greetings from Lyon :)
@@ToonStory-fh4gn oh i only knew him from a Constantinapole in Byzantine area video. I'll definitly check his 19th 20th century videos too 🙏
Also I had Requested you Something in You're "Joan of ARC Final Episode" Video that You have Forgotten about
Nope I remember it, I'll try to do it but it's a question of time and planning (my weeks are a bit exhausting these days)
@@ToonStory-fh4gn Oh my Bad it just was Unusual for Me to Experience a Request taking Almost a Month to be Choosen
Aha.. I wonder did you ever watch the non-netflix series The Great, where upon Peter the Great and his exquisite wife Catherine ruled Russia mostly and bits of Finland, and the hilarious capers they got up to? Three seasons of hilarity ensue.
No, I don't know it at all, but you've definitely made me want to binge it all at once! Thank you!
I would say you know a lot about Russia. It is very nice)
Thank you, I am honoured that you say this 😃
Ra Ra Rasputin!
Lover of the Russian Queen 💀
@@ToonStory-fh4gn It was a shame how he carried on
Fantastic video,couldn't the Russians just leave Russia you know leave an go to another country,were there armies keeping them in Russia,if not what kept them there,threats of violence or jail?.
I think the Russians were also attached to their land and their culture. And what would have become of them in other countries? Thanks my friend
mais pas des tricoteuses !
It's not worth watching such low-quality retellings of the story. This does not allow us to understand the essence of events, it only imposes phantoms and lies.
Yea the video is clearly bias and comes from American liberal pow,
also more proper video with little to no bias is by Epic History tv Russian revolution and history of Russia if you wanna reacts to that.
Yes it's a very good idea, thank you!