the Americans would probably disagree with that. They had some luck with the French taking to the sea. But from what i read, the german ships supplying them wasn't really the german (military) navy but some kind of merchant ships, they had a deal with.
@@ToonStory-fh4gn If at least halfway serious, I suggest reacting to the song, "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" by Gordon Lightfoot. It is a folk rock story about an actual incident that happened in 1975 in the North American Lake Superior. I haven't seen a good live action video, but there are a couple lyrics videos which others generally react to.⬅ Also, your video here concerning the Russian Fleet was an excellent and informed reaction. Thank you.
What a lunchtime treat! Two days in a row, im starting to feel a bit less embarrassed about our william porter from yesterday after seeing this😊. I must say as an animal lover that the Noah's ark they started was a bit worrisome, although i must say they werent attacking fisherman when they were spending quality time with the pets. Had not heard this story before, thank you so much for bringing it us. Wishing everyone a fun and safe weekend, looking forward to the next post
That clears up something I was very unfamiliar with: I live in New Zealand and I am now in my sixties. My Dad used to occasionally mention the "Russian Threat" of early last century. There were a few big (of the time) coastal guns hurriedly emplaced around New Zealand, mostly at harbour entrances, to counter the Russians. Some of these guns were "disappearing", in that they would pop up out of the ground, take a shot, and disappear beneath ground level again. Some of the gun emplacements, and guns, are still there as historic tourist attractions, more than a hundred years later. I am sure other Kiwis will be able to add more to this, than my rather sketchy knowledge. I appreciated all your extra research, which added so much more to the original video you were reacting to. Well done 🙂
@@ToonStory-fh4gn Do an online search for "Coastal fortifications of New Zealand", to find out more. Seems like the scare started even earlier than I thought. I really like your video presentation, all the extra research you do is so interesting.
@@ToonStory-fh4gn It seems like the Russian scare here started even earlier than I thought. I found a Wikipedia page titled: "Coastal fortifications of New Zealand", that might be a good place to start, it has many details. I too, now I am older, am interested in history more than when I was young. I do remember going up to the gun emplacement at Devonport, NZ, when I was a boy of fifteen or so, on a date with my high school girlfriend. Being such a big event at that age, I remember the date very well, but not the much about the gun emplacement. The priorities of youth!
It wasn't mentioned, but Britain and Japan already had an alliance at that time, Britain was already on the side of the Japanese, so it was surprising they didn't declare war on Russia for their unprovoked attack. Many of the Japanese ships, including the Mikasa were British designed and built. They were the most advanced ships in the world at the time, until the soon-to-be complete HMS Dreadnought. It gives you an idea of the alliance between the two countries, as Britain wouldn't have built those ships for any other country.
Yes, that's right, I think they had a defensive alliance with Japan? But an incident like this is a little light to justify a large-scale military intervention. Thanks for your comment!
Actually at the time we built ships for just about anyone who asked for one, including a lot of the battleships South America was using. One of the reasons Britain had more battleships a month after the Battle of Jutland than we did before was we reserved the right to pull vessels under construction for other powers into the Royal Navy.
Admiral Togo's flagship, the Mikasa, is restored and displayed in the port of Yokosuka, south of Tokyo. It's well worth a visit. In one display below decks you can put on VR goggles that put you on the bridge of the ship druring the Battle of Tsushima. It is the only existing pre-Dreadnought battleship. Togo has a shrine dedicated to him which is just behind Takeshita Street in Harajuku, Tokyo. It's the Navy....sorry 'Maritime Self-Defense Force'....shrine, and paintings of Tsushima and other naval events are around the central courtyard. There is a small lake in the gardens and the first time I visited a wedding was taking place on the island in it, the groom in full dress uniform.
@ory-fh4gn If you want something shorter, History Marche have three interesting videos on the subject, the battle of Lund, the battle of Narva, and the battle of Poltava. 😎
That was very enjoyable. Good video. Yet another new piece of fascinating history. I very much enjoyed your historical 'annotations' to the original video. Keep It Up!! After that, the Russian Navy's mutinies and rebellions seems like the wisest actions they ever took. Best Wishes. ☮
This is one of those historical events that, if anyone was to make a reasonably accurate movie or series about it, no one would believe what happened. The Russian admiral in charge did brilliantly just by getting this mobile disaster area as far as he did.
Weirdly at my British school we had what I call a revolutionary history course Industrial revolution, American revolution and the French revolution then we did the Russian revolution and the Chinese revolution As part of the Russian revolution module the Russian Baltic fleets catastrophe was mentioned because of Dogger Bank and because of it being symptomatic of the collapse of the Tsarist regime and the 1905 Revolution.
Excellent point about this whole adventure being symptomatic of the state of Tsarist Russia. When you read the accounts of the sailors, the poverty, corruption, lack of training and incompetence of the officers... All ingredients that would explode again in 1917. Thank you!
@@ToonStory-fh4gn and the Russian Revolution of 1905 which largely failed did have some positive consequences The Suomen Eduskunta (Finnish Parliament) was established as part of the reforms and in 1906 was the first European country to allow women to vote as equals and for women to be able to stand in elections. Finland as the Grand Duchy of Finland was a quasi-autonomous region of the Tsarist Empire and one of its most industrialised and the most economically strong parts of the Empire.
Russia has not changed much. Their aircraft carrier uses old fuel oil which smokes like crazy. It would break down so much it would always travel with a large tub boat. While being refit it caught fire and has sat for the last 7 years, mostly to see if it will ever be repaired. The pride of their fleet was the Moskva and that left the repair dock with the engines at half power, half the systems not working and the ability to use radar or communications in the ship. Ukraine sent so drone to distract its air defenses as the radar only has a 180 degree field of view then hit it with 2 anti ship missiles. It turns out they likely had no clue they were under attack or anything about any missiles or drones until they heard explosions. Most of the emergency response systems did not work so they tried to tow it to port. It sank first. Russia said it was do to bad weather, but it was calm weather that day. They have lost around 30% of their Black Sea fleet to a country much smaller than them with basically no navy.
@@bigty390 Except that the Russian Navy restricts Ukraine grain trade and many of the ships were missile carriers that were use to launch missiles on Ukraine cities. And there has been VERY little land change since Russia retreated out of the area North of Kiev and Ukraine broke through the lines in Kharkiv and pushed Russia out of Kherson areas. Russia has gain what 2 cities in the east, costing them 100,000 troops and taking over a year. Most of the small gains they had in the north they are loosing now. Ukraine still holds areas across the Dnipro River. Russia has lost far more than they have gained since the first few months of the war. And there has been basically no movement sense Ukraine got resupplied some. So not really sure what you are talking about. This war is down to if Ukraine can maintain support and how many losses can Russia afford.
As a Frenchman, I say to you: stay on land, only bad things happen on the sea!
the Americans would probably disagree with that. They had some luck with the French taking to the sea.
But from what i read, the german ships supplying them wasn't really the german (military) navy but some kind of merchant ships, they had a deal with.
So true
This story is so perfectly told in this video. Interesting to hear the complementary facts you had looked up 🙂
Thank you, you know I have a soft spot for maritime disasters 😁
@@ToonStory-fh4gn If at least halfway serious, I suggest reacting to the song, "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" by Gordon Lightfoot. It is a folk rock story about an actual incident that happened in 1975 in the North American Lake Superior. I haven't seen a good live action video, but there are a couple lyrics videos which others generally react to.⬅
Also, your video here concerning the Russian Fleet was an excellent and informed reaction. Thank you.
Excellent history reactions, keep them coming….very much appreciated.
Thank you very much!
What a lunchtime treat! Two days in a row, im starting to feel a bit less embarrassed about our william porter from yesterday after seeing this😊. I must say as an animal lover that the Noah's ark they started was a bit worrisome, although i must say they werent attacking fisherman when they were spending quality time with the pets. Had not heard this story before, thank you so much for bringing it us. Wishing everyone a fun and safe weekend, looking forward to the next post
If I had to choose, I'd take my ticket for the Willie Dee 100 times over this fleet. Thank you and have a great weekend!
Russia: *Struggles to support one front*
Britain: *Laughs in naval supremacy*
Aoutch 😅
@@ToonStory-fh4gn lol
This is reaction content done right. Actually adding extra information to the video. Very good!
Thank you very much!
That clears up something I was very unfamiliar with: I live in New Zealand and I am now in my sixties. My Dad used to occasionally mention the "Russian Threat" of early last century. There were a few big (of the time) coastal guns hurriedly emplaced around New Zealand, mostly at harbour entrances, to counter the Russians. Some of these guns were "disappearing", in that they would pop up out of the ground, take a shot, and disappear beneath ground level again. Some of the gun emplacements, and guns, are still there as historic tourist attractions, more than a hundred years later. I am sure other Kiwis will be able to add more to this, than my rather sketchy knowledge.
I appreciated all your extra research, which added so much more to the original video you were reacting to. Well done 🙂
Thank you very much for this comment! I'm interested, I'll have a look!
@@ToonStory-fh4gn Do an online search for "Coastal fortifications of New Zealand", to find out more. Seems like the scare started even earlier than I thought. I really like your video presentation, all the extra research you do is so interesting.
@@ToonStory-fh4gn It seems like the Russian scare here started even earlier than I thought. I found a Wikipedia page titled: "Coastal fortifications of New Zealand", that might be a good place to start, it has many details. I too, now I am older, am interested in history more than when I was young. I do remember going up to the gun emplacement at Devonport, NZ, when I was a boy of fifteen or so, on a date with my high school girlfriend. Being such a big event at that age, I remember the date very well, but not the much about the gun emplacement. The priorities of youth!
It wasn't mentioned, but Britain and Japan already had an alliance at that time, Britain was already on the side of the Japanese, so it was surprising they didn't declare war on Russia for their unprovoked attack. Many of the Japanese ships, including the Mikasa were British designed and built. They were the most advanced ships in the world at the time, until the soon-to-be complete HMS Dreadnought. It gives you an idea of the alliance between the two countries, as Britain wouldn't have built those ships for any other country.
Yes, that's right, I think they had a defensive alliance with Japan? But an incident like this is a little light to justify a large-scale military intervention. Thanks for your comment!
Actually at the time we built ships for just about anyone who asked for one, including a lot of the battleships South America was using. One of the reasons Britain had more battleships a month after the Battle of Jutland than we did before was we reserved the right to pull vessels under construction for other powers into the Royal Navy.
Admiral Togo's flagship, the Mikasa, is restored and displayed in the port of Yokosuka, south of Tokyo. It's well worth a visit. In one display below decks you can put on VR goggles that put you on the bridge of the ship druring the Battle of Tsushima. It is the only existing pre-Dreadnought battleship. Togo has a shrine dedicated to him which is just behind Takeshita Street in Harajuku, Tokyo. It's the Navy....sorry 'Maritime Self-Defense Force'....shrine, and paintings of Tsushima and other naval events are around the central courtyard. There is a small lake in the gardens and the first time I visited a wedding was taking place on the island in it, the groom in full dress uniform.
Thank you very much, if I ever visit Japan I'll go and see it!
Just a terminology note, in English a "counter-torpedo boat" is called a destroyer, originally "torpedo boat destroyer."
Thank you for the clarification!
Great reaction as usual. Any plans on watching The Great Northern War by Kings & Generals? :D
Probably at least Narva (to start 😉)! I don't know when but I want to do it... Thank you so much!
@ory-fh4gn If you want something shorter, History Marche have three interesting videos on the subject, the battle of Lund, the battle of Narva, and the battle of Poltava. 😎
That was very enjoyable. Good video. Yet another new piece of fascinating history. I very much enjoyed your historical 'annotations' to the original video. Keep It Up!!
After that, the Russian Navy's mutinies and rebellions seems like the wisest actions they ever took.
Best Wishes. ☮
Merci! Yes, in the shoes of a Russian sailor, at some point I'm going to want to have a word with the hierarchy...
Drachinifel has the best take. RUclips
Thank you, I did not know this channel! Seems like another gem! Cheers
@@ToonStory-fh4gn another good video from Drach is "Failure is like an Onion"... Hope you enjoy it.
This is one of those historical events that, if anyone was to make a reasonably accurate movie or series about it, no one would believe what happened. The Russian admiral in charge did brilliantly just by getting this mobile disaster area as far as he did.
That's what I like about History: it is sometimes even to WTF-esque to be put in a movie
Weirdly at my British school we had what I call
a revolutionary history course
Industrial revolution, American revolution and the French revolution
then we did the Russian revolution and the Chinese revolution
As part of the Russian revolution module
the Russian Baltic fleets catastrophe
was mentioned because of Dogger Bank
and because of it being symptomatic
of the collapse of the Tsarist regime
and the 1905 Revolution.
Excellent point about this whole adventure being symptomatic of the state of Tsarist Russia. When you read the accounts of the sailors, the poverty, corruption, lack of training and incompetence of the officers... All ingredients that would explode again in 1917. Thank you!
@@ToonStory-fh4gn
and the Russian Revolution of 1905
which largely failed did have some positive consequences
The Suomen Eduskunta (Finnish Parliament) was established as part of the reforms
and in 1906 was the first European country to allow women to vote as equals
and for women to be able to stand in elections.
Finland as the Grand Duchy of Finland was a quasi-autonomous region of the Tsarist Empire
and one of its most industrialised and the most economically strong parts of the Empire.
The Mr Ballen version of this is v funny
I'll check it out, thank you!
Russia has not changed much. Their aircraft carrier uses old fuel oil which smokes like crazy. It would break down so much it would always travel with a large tub boat. While being refit it caught fire and has sat for the last 7 years, mostly to see if it will ever be repaired. The pride of their fleet was the Moskva and that left the repair dock with the engines at half power, half the systems not working and the ability to use radar or communications in the ship. Ukraine sent so drone to distract its air defenses as the radar only has a 180 degree field of view then hit it with 2 anti ship missiles. It turns out they likely had no clue they were under attack or anything about any missiles or drones until they heard explosions. Most of the emergency response systems did not work so they tried to tow it to port. It sank first. Russia said it was do to bad weather, but it was calm weather that day. They have lost around 30% of their Black Sea fleet to a country much smaller than them with basically no navy.
Ukraine is losing on land so the navy has no impact on the war
@@bigty390 Except that the Russian Navy restricts Ukraine grain trade and many of the ships were missile carriers that were use to launch missiles on Ukraine cities. And there has been VERY little land change since Russia retreated out of the area North of Kiev and Ukraine broke through the lines in Kharkiv and pushed Russia out of Kherson areas.
Russia has gain what 2 cities in the east, costing them 100,000 troops and taking over a year. Most of the small gains they had in the north they are loosing now. Ukraine still holds areas across the Dnipro River. Russia has lost far more than they have gained since the first few months of the war. And there has been basically no movement sense Ukraine got resupplied some.
So not really sure what you are talking about. This war is down to if Ukraine can maintain support and how many losses can Russia afford.