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- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, Kevin Wildes and Eric Mangini discuss the Buffalo Bills after coach Sean McDermott hung a Super Bowl banner in their practice facility and the crew reacts to Von Miller comparing Josh Allen to Peyton Manning.
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Hey, Nick, Patrick Mahomes is PeyTom Braning 2.0
no thanks
Skip Bayless is a terrible person, I want to see Skip and Charles Barkley box
"Well, you are." 😂 Mangini has been savage this week.
The man is a straight shidtalker. No doubt about it.
Lmao he's been brilliant this week 😂
😄 Can't wait til the season starts! He will kick it up another notch.
That preseason burn left nicks jaw dropped!
😆 Yep- He literally said, "What just happened?" as if he had been hit by a truck.
“Mahomes is Godzilla 1.0”
Did anyone else catch that right at the end? 🤣🤣🤣
Godzilla never had so much help from the refs like mahomes
@@alpharob6959butthurt
@@alpharob6959I'm convinced now that everyone who comments like this doesn't watch Mahomes' games. You watch 1-2 highlights and take your talking points from Skip Bayless.
@@MattRowland Disagree
It is OBVIOUS the NFL has him pegged as the next Brady / Cash cow
Its INSANE the calls that went for the chiefs
the NFL (like ALL sports) is a BUSINESS first... Sport second
they are trying to make as much $ as possible. Period.
@@ImagineBeingFatif it’s rigged in one way, it’s rigged in all ways.
Eric Maginy take was a classic. "Smowflakes create an avalanches "......wow
It was Belichick's originally. He said so....much like his career. Why didn't he get a job after the Jets?
@@PhoenixDawnX77 who mentiomed his coaching career goofball?
@PhoenixDawnX77 he did get a job after the jets. Browns head coach and then 49ers assistant.
@@jimmymcnamara4742 ain't that some shyt? Thank you for you productive rebuttal. I stand corrected.
@@PhoenixDawnX77 google always open
“Running the ball was never the answer to Peyton mannings a problems” 😂😂😂
The most straight faced diss I ever heard
Also truth.
PAYTON SHOULD OF HAVE A RUN GAME. let be real
@@coreythomas3633 edgerrin james was a beast and joseph addai was nice too
Defense was lol relied on the offense too much
they had the 1st and 2and ranked defenses in the league, combined with an offense with probowlers at every position. Didnt win either year.
Glad Coach is back on the show, football is almost here!
Spring training is coming up soon since we’ve already seen rookie camp!
“Two things can be true” almost spit out my water🤣
Magini really brings a warm fatherly love to the show. I enjoy his takes so very much and it's clear the team, especially Nick, has respect and affection for the dude. I'm here for it.
Yea he's very respectable. 2 HC jobs. Fired from both within 3 years. Had 2 winning seasons out of 5 and was never allowed to have another NFL job since then. Translation. F-king bum.
OMG.... Are we really analyzing that someone said SB or playoffs or week 1...?? These guys are digging deep to be critical of Buffalo
That’s what they do.they talk while the players go out and play
Well to be fair every year the bills r somehow always favorites to make and win the superbowl over teams that r better than them then they go have a good regular season but when the playoffs comes and they lose there’s always a excuse for everytime they lost
@@Adept_Tommy what does that have to do with them hyper analyzing random statements as if it was a measure of the team
It's just Nick. He will ignore everything said everywhere else, but if it's the Bills, he can tie it back to something negative about Josh Allen.
But the JETS are the SuperBowl champs now!
The angst of the season. It's The calm before the storm!!!!! So hype 🏈🏈🏈
When does it start
@beastmode3799 the first regular season game is September 7th Thursday night. Kc! Let's go
It’s good for the bills when they aren’t crowned super bowl champs in august for the 3rd straight season.
Gotta keep coach coming on more! Brings another element on top of a already masterpiece of a show!!!
love my bills can’t WAIT to shut Nick up this season❤
sureeee
I just hope we all win our bets ❤️❤️❤️
Keep dreaming 😂
Bills finishing 3rd in the division
Y’all hate us cuz you ain’t us 😋
Has Mangini ever been on TV without mentioning Bill Belichick?
In von millers defense he played with 55tds payton Manning and benched for Brock oswieler payton Manning, so which one is he comparing Allen to?
The real SB banner goes up at Arrowhead on Sept. 7th!
💪🏆😁
This man hates the bills and Allen 😂😂😂…he literally bends backwards to find a reason to hate on them. Be an analysts and not a troll🤦🏾♂️
He did the same thing to Jokic and the Nuggets for years!How'd that turn out for Nicky?
Because he knows the Bills are a Threat.
Seriously !
This is a legitimate question: does anyone actually take him seriously?
@@sprawlz6466no, but that’s what makes him entertaining. He doesn’t hide his bias and it’s just part of his character.
Good Ole Nick Crucifying Bills once again and again and again
So you disagree with Nick? And everyone else? They're all on the same page here.
I hate nick
As he should they’ve proven nothing but be playoff choked
@ignico9906 everyone has choked in nfl, including bengals last year and chiefs loss to buccaneers, who hasnt choked????
@@johnmarlow7959the better question is, who only chokes? That is where you see the difference.
Coach was spitting nothing but facts
I always laugh when Nick's defensive postures kick in as soon as someone calls him out for overstepping the line.
Someone's gonna be forth is the most true thing ever
It's called the present because it's a gift.
This show is so good.
Mangini: 33-48
Mcdermott: 62-35
Haven’t even watched the clip and I can already hear Nick yelling defending Mahomes with his life 😆😆😆😆
As a lifelong Seahawks fan. I have repeatedly heard that the guys are supposed to play each game like its the Superbowl.
I feel like this has been the most insightful and accurate Nick I’ve ever seen on this show
Hey! Respect the Sanchize
Considering Nick *JUST* compared Trevor Lawrence to Peyton Manning, defending the exact things he hates on Josh Allen for, then ignores how far ahead of the curve Josh is in the Peyton Manning comparison...
"I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!" - Mugatu
The difference? Nick picked Allen to be a bust when drafted, then held to that take ever since. Nick picked Trevor to be a sure-fire franchise QB when drafted, then held to that take.
Lawrence had good half of season. Doug Peterson made a difference.
Ahead of what curve? TLaw has clearly outperformed Allen through 2 years. Allen popped his 3rd year, which Trevor is entering right now.
@Smitty8567 I mean comparing to Peyton. Allen has more total yards, more total TDs (the exact same passing TDs), 40 less INTs, higher comp %, higher passer rating, won playoff games each of the last 3 years, when it took Peyton 6 seasons before he won his first and did so in 4 less games.
Josh only started 11 games his rookie year, so it was a dud overall, improved his 2nd year, then from years 3-5 has been the player he is today.
So yes, Trevor did more in year 2 than Josh did, but will he put up nearly 5000 yards, 46 TDs & make the AFCCG in year 3? I'm not so sure.
@@corey2232 You don’t see the irony, do you? Sure Allen had a better start to his career than Manning, but do you see Allen getting 5 All-Pros in the next 7 years, 4 MVPs in 7 years, 2 SB appearances in 5, and 1 SB title and SBMVP? I’m not so sure.
And I find it much more likely that Trevor replicates Allen’s years 3-5 than Allen replicating Manning’s 6-12. But that’s just me.
Ol boy is STILL butthurt about Allen making him cover himself in ketchup and mustard.
I can't put my finger on it, but the Bills are always missing something
A superbowl win
A Good RB and Shut Down Corner
If buffalo gets Dalvin Cook they become deadly
A few years ago they weren’t missing anything….Mahomes is just that dude and 13seconds was all he needed. Since then….they have just been sloppy.
clowns like you think winning a superbowl is easy like buying a coffee
the fact that he keeps putting lawrence above allen is insane.
Coach is GREAT on here.
The bills went 13 and 3 with unreal bad injury luck and having about every unforseen circumstance you could possibly had including 2 100 year snowstorms and a player literally dying on the field, then drastically improved their roster everywhere but MLB and are going backwards
I had excuses when my packers lost in the playoffs after the bowl win…. And little did I know that was our window.
@@joshuap935not true you were slight favourites in your conference both Rodgers back to back mvp years and were really bad luck and bakhtiari injury hurting o line from beating Tampa or your special teams giving a touchdown vs San franc: should’ve been wins and chance at ring
@@joshuap935esp as you wouidve best the zero o line chiefs np
@joshuap935 the team is better than its ever been in many positions including massive upgrades on the interior OL. Josh is the same age as Aaron when he won his superbowl basically. Everyone needs to take a chill pill
Dont forget the literal massacre that happened in buffalo
two things can be true, perfect timing by bru lol
Lol. Segments like this are what happens when shows start full NFL coverage on July 31.
I feel like Elway would be a better comparison to Allen
Coach with a great take
Quite news day? Bills have had this motto before, playoff caliber then championship caliber
Bills have hung SB signs in their practice facilities before?
If you're thinking about the Superbowl in August, you're in trouble.
I want to agree with Nick’s Rivers analogy…but I think he’d be the Big Ben of the group. He’ll get one or two eventually, I’m sure. If anything…Herbert is Rivers 😂
They play nothing alike too. Rivers was a stationary QB with a sort of weak arm. Allen is the opposite
This show (aside from podcasts like New Heights and Pat McAfee) has become my favorite football media for sure 😊
Rumor has it, one of Nicky’s kids is actually Josh Allen’s 😂. The only person he talks about more everyday than Mahomes is Allen 😂, love it!
Trevor Lawrence and Lebron James would like to have a word with you.
@@jfreitag88 No, that's Lebron, Tom Brady and Baker Mayfield
@@Fidelis1776his hatred for Allen far surpasses his man crush on Lawrence.
You might be right homie
Allen had more turnovers (22) than Dak last year (18).. (ints fumbles) and Allen gets compared to Payton Manning??? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Manning also led the league in interceptions.. he wasn't the great Payton Manning for the first years of his career
And I definitely don't like the bills, but that's just a fact
Whos compared him to manning?!
How many TDs? With a injury from week 6 on?
Dak had that many turnovers while playing 5 less games... Allen played 5 more games and he was his teams leading rusher. Context is important.
Two things can be true, you can despise Buffalo and love their Wings
Why do you despise Buffalo? Why can't you be happy for a city that hasn't won a championship?
@bjarczyk because when ones own life is miserable they like to have company. If you are truly happy with your life you can be happy (or at the absolute minimum, indifferent) for other people
@@mikep3813 Indeed!
Nick be hating every single video about the bills hella annoying 😂😂😂
😂 this is amazing that a former Jets head couch doesn't like the Bills... Super bowl without Brady and Bellicheck you would be forever forgotten lol!!!
I know Wilde’s reads the comments so… I love how you deviate from the script when needed for betterment of the segment
Josh Allen is stylistically identical to Big Ben. Just not as clutch. Big Ben is the best comparison to Josh. Similar to Ben Josh is 3rd of his era behind Mahomes and Burrow just how Ben was 3rd behing Brady and Peyton
Of the afc ?
Yeah Nick was on the money with the Big Ben take.
Allen isn’t third tho because there are QBs behind Mahomes/Burrow that > Allen
Big Ben won a SB throwing 0 TDs, 2 INTs, and around 120 passing yards.
Big Ben is a very good, not great QB.
Big Ben won a SB throwing 0 TDs, 2 INTs, and around 120 passing yards.
Big Ben is a very good, not great QB.
@@MrGhostface85
True, but u can't say the same against arizona. Big Ben made some amazing throws.
Josh Allen getting put on the cover of Madden so that he could visualize getting mobbed for winning a championship and not cry so much is the funniest moment of the offseason
What a dumb comment
Hey wasup I'm thinking is buffalo bills will bust or focused superbowl but I don't know like that's my opinion 😅😂
@@jaymoney7747
My comment is a little baitey and I do have appreciation and respect for Allen being a top QB he just isn’t too 3 and hasn’t been for awhile.
The Bills are a very good team. I respect a lot of their players I think they have too many issues and too tough a conference to make it any farther than the divisional round again.
Now to clarify: am I saying it’s impossible that this year they make it to SB or even win it? Of course it’s not impossible.
But it’s very, very unlikely.
I see them going 10-7 to 12-5 and either first wild card (If Miami puts it all together and the Jets add to the pressure) or winning the division (and then either way either getting dropped in the WC round or division round.
Their success hinges on these factors:
Allen realizing he can’t be the entire offense and playing smarter with better ball control the way Daboll taught him (and he subsequently forgot)
Dalton Kincaid being the Next Kelce/Young Kelce
Diggs shelving his resentment
McDermott pulling the team together and realizing he needs to balance both sides better
Von Miller beating the odds and recovering from that injury and another year of age better than likely (he’s a beast so it is possible)
I joke and I do have criticisms of the Bills but I do like them a lot as a franchise and want them to climb the mountain at some point (I have a soft spot for teams that have never won it all)
But I don’t think this is their year. This heir year if they find out if they can reload, stop regressing and take positive steps
That’s the dumbest things I’ve heard lol
For real only time the bills are winning a Super Bowl is in a video game lol
Imagine comparing josh allen with daunte culpepper with a straight face on national television😂😂😂😂 only nick wright can embarrass himself like that...
what’s embarassing about that?
How was he wrong?
These NPCs in the replies smh
I can tell you dont remember how good he was early in his career.
Josh Allen isn't Daunte. He's Big Ben. Daunte was like almost 260lbs in his prime
Josh needs to try to make it too the arrowhead invitational before the superbowl chiefs kingdom baby
Josh Allen reminds me of Kurt Warner
How so
Yeah I'm going to stick with rawfully Buffalo Mafia you was right about that it was a lot of injuries man if they be injury-free this year they got to get that Lombardy
That's not really how football works though lol
And Your opponent to fight for Lombardi is the Minnesota Vikings Think about that but you got Next few years to do it.
Having haters is a great thing because your doing something right. Thank you nick ! Ive never seen a guy talk about a team and a player more then nick talks about bills and allen
Facts
I see why Mangini doesn’t have a job every time he’s on tv 😂
Most definite he is a man to beat man I defense got to put on Tass like they doing in practice all year that's dominate every team we will have a big shot at
What a waste of 10 minutes discussing absolutely nothing meaningful. I can't wait for the season to start
Totally different. Peyton had the brains, he knew how to run the Offense.
Bills last 3 years: #2 Offense, #5 Offense, #2 Offense. I think Allen and his 129 TDs over that span is pretty good at running an offense (Averages to 43TDs a season)
Allen has like double his yards per game and double his TDs per game in the playoffs
Still the best show
😂😂
Nick continues to talk about Buffalo as if they weren't 13-3 last year and without a complete Vikings fluke, would have been the top seed over his Chiefs.... I've never seen a 13-3 team get so dissed.
His argument about playoff regression the past 3 years is absolutely on point though…
Yeah, but it's hard to listen to Nick about the Bills because his deep bias clouds every opinion he gives about the Bills. It would be like if Bill Cosby did a P.S.A. about woman never leaving their drink unattended at bar, good advice, yes, but it's hard to take it seriously coming from him.
@@Grtgooglymoogly1 and somehow the defense remains blameless and its all on josh allen
@@kurooben1639hes The Guy. Hes the QB. When exactly is this NOT the case?
@@marcusgarcia5089 cause its always ignored how bad the defense is in the playoffs and we had the game won before we decided to play prevent defense with 13 seconds left and let you walk down the field. mahomes gets excuses of its his line or bad defense all the time
The Bill are trending to not make it out of the Wild Card weekend
Josh Allen comp to Dante Culpepper was elite by Nick.
No it wasn't
I can do it too, Mahomes is like Jay Culter, if Cutler won 2 Superbowls. Stylistically. Just nonsense.
@@al_s93Huh?!😂 Cutler was a pocket passer kid... you actually watch football... right?😅
@@lakeozarkrei3767 Nah, Cutler was more mobile than people remember, particularly young Cutler
Nah, not really. Daunte was bigger and fell off quick. A better comp is Big Ben
If it’s a day if the week, it’s Bills trashing time…
U mean Josh Allen to Eli! And still NO SB’s🤣
Peyton Manning vs Josh Allen stats over the first 6 seasons:
Passing TDs: Manning (167), Allen (167)
Rushing TDs: Manning (9), Allen (53)
Receiving TDs: Manning (0), Allen (1)
Interceptions: Manning (110), Allen (78)
Total Yds: Manning (25,467), Allen (26,326)
Playoff Record: Manning (0-3), Allen (5-5)
Average Passer Rating: Manning (88.1), Allen (90.2)
Yards per Pass Attempt: Manning (7.3), Allen (7.2)
Completion %: Manning (62.8), Allen (63.2)
It took Manning 10 seasons to win a Superbowl. There's plenty of time for Allen.
Not everyone can be a freak like Mahomes with an all-star cast and a legendary coach that schemes receivers wide open all the time. If the Bills hadn't traded their draft pick, Mahomes could be stuck on the Bills team and Allen could've gone to KC. Who knows how things would've turned out.
yep keep talking. that's all you guys can do. stop worrying about us because we aren't worried about you. Go Bills
Josh Allen I would compare him to Eric's guy Brett Favre who he coached with the Jets.
Facts ^^^
Not even close... Cam Newton by a mile.
@@lakeozarkrei3767 He's got a better arm than Cam
@@jctslice As far as what? I'd say Allen maybe a little more accurate... but not by much. As far as arm strength? Allen certainly couldn't out throw cam in his prime though.
Just saying that if somebodys looking for a comparison for Allen... its gotta be Newton.
Same body type, same running style, same arm strength. And again... if Allen don't quit running so much same career span as Newton.
So making the playoffs the last 3 years like nick said isnt maintaining???
-_-.....ugh imagine complaining about a team that wants to make WINNING THE SUPERBOWL a goal.
He had the bill from the gate he Kansas City Chiefs I just hope we break his heart
"It takes a million snowflakes to cause an avalanche and the snowflakes just keep coming..."
Preach coach, preach it...
Hahaha
Nick you are a Bills hater. Everyone has a right to have their opinion but just own it and stop pretending.
Has this team even made a conference championship???
As a Rivers believer, I am saddened by this reality.
Allen has 3 straight seasons over 35 passing TDs and rivers doesn’t even have one
@@michaelangerami6748 Also completely stylistically different. If anyone is Rivers, it's Trevor Lawrence. Good qb and can make plays, but also TO prone
He’s just confident, can’t be confident anymore?
We should never accuse the Bills of being intelligent.
Josh Allen will never eclipse Mannings rushing yards.
However Patrick Mahones will do so there.
Lil by lil nick is becoming one of my favorite analyst the guy gets better every show.
I'm be glad when the season starts. Everyone is nick picking on the Bills and on every press words. If you listen to the media, they act like the Bills are a bum team. The Bills were 13. 3 last season and won a playoff game. Josh Allen threw for 35tds and ran for 7 tds with over 700 yards but if you listen to the media you would like that he was Jamarcus Russell. They had to overcome a lot of adversity that many teams would have crumble. The Bills are not saying a word one way or another. I believe they are going to let their play on the field do there talking. Yes the entire division is better on paper and in particular the AFC east but last season the media said the AFC west was going to have 4 teams in the playoff and look what happen? It's funny you never hear these guys say there predictions were wrong! Let's wait until the season starts or when the real season starts in Nov/Dec.
Barely won a playoff game against a 3rd string rookie QB* The Bills are like the Knicks. Even when they're supposed to win they'll always find a way to lose.
The last time I check and win is a win!
Also beside the Bengal's loss the Bills was not favorite in any of the playoff games against both K C games at Arrowhead. KC was favorite at home in both game not the Bills. They beat the Pats, Ravens and Miami the team that the Bills were favorite.
Mangini sounds great yet he couldn't do it
I would love to see a segment where they rank the teams without their QBs. Like are the Bills without Allen better than the Chiefs without Mahomes and so on. Does anyone do that in the media?
Both teams are picking in the top 5 without their QBs.
@@jca7343Andy Reid can make any QB look good. Alex Smith was a two time pro bowler right before they switched to Mahomes. Even Henne looks above average when he gets thrown in there with no preparation. Chiefs would still be in the top half of the league, but maybe only in the 8th to 10th range in the AFC
Regardless of what Josh may be saying or coach McDermott may be saying, in the end they are all pros and they are only in it for one thing, The Lombardi Trophy. So dissecting on who said what is pointless. You all know the ultimate goal. Same goes for every team regardless of where they eventually end up.
Well that's too sensical of an observation to fill a 5 minute segment in the NFL offseason.
They will NEVER win a Super Bowl with Allen
I speak for everyone when i say STOP BRINGING COACH MANGINI PLEASE
No you don't....
Out of Herbert, Allen, and Lawrence one of them is gonna be a Rivers. The AFC is just too stacked right now
My money is on Herbert until proven otherwise
@@Noctem_pasaHerbert might be another Phillip rivers.
Lawrence will for sure be that. Allen is Big Ben. Lawrence is Rivers. Herbert gives off Matthew Stafford vibes
This is a pretty odd segment, obviously everyone knows it’s Super Bowl or busy & everyone knows you first make the playoffs & give yourself the best chance in the playoffs game by game in the reg season.
Josh Allen is definitely most alike big Ben
Or Joe burrow.
coach... seriously. no one cares what bill does. the question was about mcdermott. he constantly preaches "one game at a time."
EDIT: THANK YOU, BRU!!
I’m not gonna lie…I can’t stand Mangini. He’s always talking about “we” about the Pats, like we don’t remember how bad a coach he was with the Jets.
He’s been riding Bill and Tom’s coattails his whole career. Idk. He just gets on my nerves lol
Nick hates the Bills&Josh Allen 🤣🤣🤣
Ya, news flash
Speak softly and carry a big stock and you'll go far. Oh Yeah and take down the trophy banner
BOY I LOVE LOSING SUPERBOWLS lmao
very original
@@BraeAllin ole faithful 🤣
Josh Allen is the new version of Steve McNair go watch the highlights facts
He's got a way better arm than McNair tho
@@jctslice yes he do but Steve McNair had a strong arm too tho but Josh play just like the man because Steve McNair ran a lot too the same many yards every year too go check the stats it's crazy it's just a like
i dont know if i like these 2.0 things, brady had 3 rings before he lost a playoff game bruh. Burrow is cold and all but idk, game is so diffferent nowadays, all qbs run a little more than peyton or brady. Its just different
Bills has a phenomenal roster so much talent but there’s kC and baby Brady that being burrow and the bengals and even if the bills make the SB most likely the Eagles will be waiting
BORROW NOT BABY BRADY. 😅😅😅😅😅 HE WON WHAT EXACTLY.
Or the Bills Opponent in the Super Bowl will Be The Minnesota Vikings while Eagles get the Bengals, broncos, chargers Or Ravens.
You guys got it wrong literally instantly. He said what's being preached is "you can't win the superbowl without getting to the playoffs." So we need to focus on getting there first. And if you've ever seen his interviews he never knows what teams he's facing ahead of the schedule. He didn't even know he was playing the Chiefs in 2 weeks last year when that happened he was like oh, didn't know that. These guys are grasping so hard at anything to bury this team further and it's perfect. The more they put em down, the harder it'll be when they rise. I don't understand how these guys continue to not only get thing about the bills wrong, it sucks bc the rest of the show is amazing and I love watching these videos, its just a shame that every single bills video is either wrong or blown up to 11. Does every other player for every other team never think ahead of the schedule? ever say hey guys we gotta be playoff ready during the regular season? you have diggs literally saying hey everythings cool water under the bridge and theyre still brining up the very concerned thing. one comment that was redacted weeks ago. its just crazy to me, idk maybe im overreacting here.