Back in the early sixties instead of sports I would go down to the shop after hours if the teacher would stay and work on projects I never thought I had a 12 year old mind when I was 16 or 17.i just wanted to learn machining which I did for the next fifty years.realy enjoy your videos ,great job.
Hi Mr. Pete. My 21 year old son is still operating with that 12 year old's brain. It's a good thing he's in the U.S.M.C., where he can put all that energy to good use!
It's been six years since you made this video that I watched on my Samsung Galaxy Tablet. RUclips has enabled a two-fingered pinch and zoom effect. In full screen mode, I am able to zoom in 8.0 magnification.
Mr. Pete. I have really enjoyed this series on the toolmakers vise. The timing of it has been perfect. My 12 year old grandson starts his winter break from school in a couple of days and we will be making two of them for his tool box. We both watch your videos together and I want to thank you on keeping the content clean.
I haven't been in a machine shop since the very early 80's when I was in middle school, 6th or 7th grade I think. We had a class that rotated each of four semesters between art, woodshop, machine shop, and home economics. I know I made a funnel and I think a punch, I remember the knurling on the punch. That said I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this series and intend to look through some of the previous videos. I have a decently equipped wood shop and that is where I have spent the bilk of my adult working life so I doubt I'll ever really get into machining metal but these videos are very interesting none the less.
My high school didn't have a machine shop. If it did, I would've wanted you teaching it. I've only recently come into metalwork as a (very expensive) hobby, and you and clickspring are teaching me truckloads' worth. I really appreciate the knowledge you're sharing so freely.
I enjoy watching and learning from your videos, although I am not a Machinist, but an Automotive Mechanic, I enjoy learning new things. I can tell from your videos that you have a lot of experience as Teacher and it shows. Thank you for taking the time and effort in creating your videos and sharing your knowledge. Cheers, Mike
Thanks for demo of the toolmakers advice and am proceeding with three different sizes - useful to use set ups more than once. I e mailed to Toly who immediately sent drawings (many thanks) which can be scaled easily for different sizes. I do enjoy your presentations, especially at right speed for my age - more than yours you mentioned. Cheers Peter
Excellant project ! I really enjoy your video's. I learned how to cut threads watching one of your video's. Learning to perform that operation was one of my goals when i bought my 1917 STAR lathe about 25 years ago. The only thing i need to learn now is how to use the thread dial properly. I have watched many vidros and they all refer to a lesd screw with 8tpi, mine has a lead screw with 9tpi. Thanks for all your teaching! Mike
Another great video Mr. Pete, your presentation is spot on, I feel like i am in shop class with a teacher that knows his stuff and cares about his students.
I really enjoy watching your videos, They are very informative. I don't have any of the machined you have, but it's a topic I enjoy. You are very through with your instructions. I'd just like to say thank you for taking the time to do the job right.
Hi Pete, on the subject of the angle on the end of the vice, another possible way of cutting it is to lay the vice body angled horizontally in the milling vice with the end to be angled overhanging just enough to clear the vice when cutting the angle setting the body at the correct angle to cut with the side of the milling cutter (as when you faced off the ends earlier). That way both solid ends of the vice body would be clamped in the vice preventing the possibility of pinching the centre section. I hope that description makes sense, a diagram would be much easier!
Mr. Peterson, I really like your videos. I know I've said this before, but I wish I could have been in your machining class in High School (I'm several states over to the west.) You are a very good teacher. Thank you for making these videos. :)
Great project. I believe I'll be making one. Possibly more. My son is in school for Mechanical engineering, and this would be a great gift. He never paid a whole lot of attention to what dad was doing out in the shop, but suddenly has discovered how satisfying metalworking is. They did a tap wrench in one of his classes last year, and he found out it's not as easy as it looks, but it got in his head, and now he can't get enough. I wonder if cast would be less prone to warping? - especially after an overnight thru the oven on "self-clean"? I need to do some homework on that. (it's good enough for Kurt) I wouldn't mind doing a squaring/scale removal at the start, especially if the body stayed put afterward. My 1st thought would have gone to a fly cutter on the bottom, the 28deg relief on the fixed jaw, and top surfacing. I also may make a pass on the sides with the fly cutter. I would allow for it i the start (as if I had a surface grinder, but I don't either) During the community vise build, I saw where Adam Booth commented on making the movable jaws a little narrower to prevent dragging on the table when the vise is used on it's side. I since noticed my 3" Shars Machinists Vise is so made. I have a benchtop mill and it's much more precise with the fly cutter than larger endmills due to the reduced loading. I'm hoping a final fine feed flycut pass and blocking on the surface plate with fine paper will give a nice finish and adequate accuracy. That's one of the reasons this is an art, there's a lot of ways to get the job done, and everybody can put their own twist on a project like this. Thanks!
Excellent commentary on practical workholding (I have always found that thinking about how to hold the work is the real `secret` to quality machining): It may have been better set it up with a side milling cut for three reasons: the web of the jaw was solid (no distortion), it is easier to set the angle using a machinist's protractor, and finally, a climb cut could used for the final cut would make for a cleaner finish without resorting to sandpaper: To each his own. Wonderful Project!
Is there a functional reason for the angled face at the rear of the vise? Say a 30 degree angle for a tilt setup. Perhaps a 90degree (to the long axis) would have more use? There must have been a reason, right?
I have watched most of your videos and really enjoy them. We are within a few months of being the same age my DOB 12/27/1944. I am retired and have lots of machine tools, like you I am a man of many vises and a few vices. I have a good source for metal stock and that isw Ebay user ID pinkwrestler. He will combine shipping which means you can get 70 pounds of metal for $17 shipping. Give him a look. Hey maybe I'll see you at Cabin Fever.
I think I heard ...the weight of the oil isn't all that critical, you can use 30 or 28. Maybe its just the speakers on my puter. Great stuff Mr. Pete. I always enjoy our videos.
Why shouldn't one clamp the detail so the exceess is on the vice side and mill the excess vertically - it will provide two solid material clamping spots on the both sides of vice screw, thus eliminating need of auxilliary block in vice and risk of pinching groove. Is there any reasons not to clamp that way? Thanks.
Mr Pete, would it have resulted in a poor finish to have clamped the work so the side of the cutter machined the vice tail angle? Very nice by the way.
This angle that you milled down on the fixed vice jaw - what purpose this serves? Why no leave the fixed jaw material there? Would be stronger that way, yes?
Hi Lyle great vise I think I will contact Toly for prints. I never see you use a fly-cutter to final finish these large flat exterior surfaces any particular reason?
I would have spend another hour or so and brought it to a nicer polished finish. After all, you are only making the clamp for fun and pride at this point!
mrpete222 Pride goeth before the fall right? love your work Sir. @Bobby W; The only reason I'd put a shine to is either as a display or personal choice. But since it's only a mild steel, the shine won't last long unless you chrome plated it or it was made from a chrome and or nickel steel.
Ive never heard you say anything good about any of your students. Did they ever do ANYTHING correct? No wonder they tore up everything they could get there hands on.
They fixed his brother's hex wrenches. :) Mr. Pete's not being negative; he's using anecdotes to tell us what to watch for; what mistakes _not_ to make.
ShysterLawyer I can understand that. I really can. but never has he said anything positive about his classes. I watched Pete from the beginning of his channel. I thought he might say 1 thing good about his kids. I have respect and like Pete but wow. if they never did anything good maybe they needed another teacher.
Pride is ok if tempered with humility, let the work speak for itself - as Mr. Petes does.
Back in the early sixties instead of sports I would go down to the shop after hours if the teacher would stay and work on projects I never thought I had a 12 year old mind when I was 16 or 17.i just wanted to learn machining which I did for the next fifty years.realy enjoy your videos ,great job.
Hi Mr. Pete. My 21 year old son is still operating with that 12 year old's brain. It's a good thing he's in the U.S.M.C., where he can put all that energy to good use!
It's been six years since you made this video that I watched on my Samsung Galaxy Tablet. RUclips has enabled a two-fingered pinch and zoom effect. In full screen mode, I am able to zoom in 8.0 magnification.
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You do a great job of showing alternative ways to get the job done. Very encouraging for those with limited machines or courage.
Mr. Pete. I have really enjoyed this series on the toolmakers vise. The timing of it has been perfect. My 12 year old grandson starts his winter break from school in a couple of days and we will be making two of them for his tool box. We both watch your videos together and I want to thank you on keeping the content clean.
That is so awesome--thanks
That's GOOD stuff right there!
I haven't been in a machine shop since the very early 80's when I was in middle school, 6th or 7th grade I think. We had a class that rotated each of four semesters between art, woodshop, machine shop, and home economics. I know I made a funnel and I think a punch, I remember the knurling on the punch. That said I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this series and intend to look through some of the previous videos. I have a decently equipped wood shop and that is where I have spent the bilk of my adult working life so I doubt I'll ever really get into machining metal but these videos are very interesting none the less.
Another trip down perfection highway! Thanks Lyle
My high school didn't have a machine shop. If it did, I would've wanted you teaching it.
I've only recently come into metalwork as a (very expensive) hobby, and you and clickspring are teaching me truckloads' worth. I really appreciate the knowledge you're sharing so freely.
Early Ehlinger
lol ya, who new that mild steel was so expensive in bulk, and it's one of the cheapest metals to buy.
ya, it's frustrating when you can buy a finished item that's made in china cheaper than you can buy the raw stock in the US and Canada
Thank you very much
I enjoy watching and learning from your videos, although I am not a Machinist, but an Automotive Mechanic, I enjoy learning new things. I can tell from your videos that you have a lot of experience as Teacher and it shows. Thank you for taking the time and effort in creating your videos and sharing your knowledge. Cheers, Mike
Thanks for watching
chips and smoke!!! LOVE. IT.
Thanks for demo of the toolmakers advice and am proceeding with three different sizes - useful to use set ups more than once. I e mailed to Toly who immediately sent drawings (many thanks) which can be scaled easily for different sizes. I do enjoy your presentations, especially at right speed for my age - more than yours you mentioned. Cheers Peter
Thank you, for all your great videos.
Thanks for watching.
Excellant project ! I really enjoy your video's. I learned how to cut threads watching one of your video's. Learning to perform that operation was one of my goals when i bought my 1917 STAR lathe about 25 years ago. The only thing i need to learn now is how to use the thread dial properly. I have watched many vidros and they all refer to a lesd screw with 8tpi, mine has a lead screw with 9tpi.
Thanks for all your teaching!
Mike
Another great video Mr. Pete, your presentation is spot on, I feel like i am in shop class with a teacher that knows his stuff and cares about his students.
Thank you very much
I really enjoy watching your videos, They are very informative. I don't have any of the machined you have, but it's a topic I enjoy. You are very through with your instructions. I'd just like to say thank you for taking the time to do the job right.
Thanks for watching.--I appreciate the nice comment
Hi Pete, on the subject of the angle on the end of the vice, another possible way of cutting it is to lay the vice body angled horizontally in the milling vice with the end to be angled overhanging just enough to clear the vice when cutting the angle setting the body at the correct angle to cut with the side of the milling cutter (as when you faced off the ends earlier). That way both solid ends of the vice body would be clamped in the vice preventing the possibility of pinching the centre section.
I hope that description makes sense, a diagram would be much easier!
That is a lovely project, very well made. Thank you for sharing. I really love your "how to make X" videos.
Looking forward to the next project, have a great Christmas Lyle.
Thanks for watching
Excellent project - and very, very well presented!
Thank you very much
Mr. Peterson, I really like your videos. I know I've said this before, but I wish I could have been in your machining class in High School (I'm several states over to the west.) You are a very good teacher. Thank you for making these videos. :)
Thank you very much
Really enjoying this series!!
Thanks for watching
GREAT PROJECT. THANKS MR. PETE
Thanks for watching.
Great project.
I believe I'll be making one. Possibly more. My son is in school for Mechanical engineering, and this would be a great gift.
He never paid a whole lot of attention to what dad was doing out in the shop, but suddenly has discovered how satisfying metalworking is. They did a tap wrench in one of his classes last year, and he found out it's not as easy as it looks, but it got in his head, and now he can't get enough.
I wonder if cast would be less prone to warping? - especially after an overnight thru the oven on "self-clean"? I need to do some homework on that. (it's good enough for Kurt) I wouldn't mind doing a squaring/scale removal at the start, especially if the body stayed put afterward.
My 1st thought would have gone to a fly cutter on the bottom, the 28deg relief on the fixed jaw, and top surfacing. I also may make a pass on the sides with the fly cutter. I would allow for it i the start (as if I had a surface grinder, but I don't either)
During the community vise build, I saw where Adam Booth commented on making the movable jaws a little narrower to prevent dragging on the table when the vise is used on it's side. I since noticed my 3" Shars Machinists Vise is so made.
I have a benchtop mill and it's much more precise with the fly cutter than larger endmills due to the reduced loading.
I'm hoping a final fine feed flycut pass and blocking on the surface plate with fine paper will give a nice finish and adequate accuracy.
That's one of the reasons this is an art, there's a lot of ways to get the job done, and everybody can put their own twist on a project like this.
Thanks!
I'm glad you like the project
Excellent commentary on practical workholding (I have always found that thinking about how to hold the work is the real `secret` to quality machining): It may have been better set it up with a side milling cut for three reasons: the web of the jaw was solid (no distortion), it is easier to set the angle using a machinist's protractor, and finally, a climb cut could used for the final cut would make for a cleaner finish without resorting to sandpaper: To each his own. Wonderful Project!
Thanks-good suggestions
I really enjoyed this series!!
great set of videos, I''m now a subscriber, more like this please.
Thanks--I have 800 vids
Hurray for tangents!!
Spice to the meal.
Thank you very much
I like this project.
Thank you very much
Is there a functional reason for the angled face at the rear of the vise? Say a 30 degree angle for a tilt setup.
Perhaps a 90degree (to the long axis) would have more use? There must have been a reason, right?
I just watched this whole series without a drink.
Thanks for watching--I'll bet your thirsty now.
I would sign such a nice item.
great project
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_Straight_ in with the jokes! :P
Nice work, Lyle! :)
Thanks for watching
"Still a 12 year old in a 16 year olds body" Very funny!
lol
I have watched most of your videos and really enjoy them. We are within a few months of being the same age my DOB 12/27/1944. I am retired and have lots of machine tools, like you I am a man of many vises and a few vices. I have a good source for metal stock and that isw Ebay user ID pinkwrestler. He will combine shipping which means you can get 70 pounds of metal for $17 shipping. Give him a look. Hey maybe I'll see you at Cabin Fever.
Thanks--I will check him out. DOB-8/02/1943. Yes many many vises only a few of the other
This was fun :)
I think I heard ...the weight of the oil isn't all that critical, you can use 30 or 28. Maybe its just the speakers on my puter. Great stuff Mr. Pete. I always enjoy our videos.
Thanks for watching
Why shouldn't one clamp the detail so the exceess is on the vice side and mill the excess vertically - it will provide two solid material clamping spots on the both sides of vice screw, thus eliminating need of auxilliary block in vice and risk of pinching groove. Is there any reasons not to clamp that way? Thanks.
Do you regrind your end mills? See you in the next episode. Holo Krome screws on ebay $13.95 for 100 10-32.
Thanks for sharing sir...
Thanks for watching.
Mr Pete, would it have resulted in a poor finish to have clamped the work so the side of the cutter machined the vice tail angle? Very nice by the way.
Thanks for watching.--unsure
Good work mr
Thank you
good job
"It won't be long now ." .... That's what I thought the Mohel said just before the circumcision.
Thank you very much
This angle that you milled down on the fixed vice jaw - what purpose this serves? Why no leave the fixed jaw material there? Would be stronger that way, yes?
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Hi Lyle great vise I think I will contact Toly for prints. I never see you use a fly-cutter to final finish these large flat exterior surfaces any particular reason?
yes--throws chips for 10 feet. some of which land in the crook of my arms
I know that feeling... I used to fly-cut aluminum for name plates in high school machine shop and even aluminum chips burn in that area
Interesting tangent at 4:38
Why do you use Loctite on the handle?
Why not knurling in the middle of the handle and press fit it in the screw
Most people cannot knurl
"So that your project is not lethal"
I liked that one too.
So serious, but what a sense of humor. Love this guy.
Thanks
if I had left the red ink and machining marks I would have gotten an incomplete from my shop teacher lol
Am I missing something? This looks identical to part 8, which I watched yesterday.
This is part 8.
i have emailed toly and received no reply, is there any other way i could get these drawings?
I haven't heard from him in a week--maybe he's ill?? keep trying
I would have spend another hour or so and brought it to a nicer polished finish. After all, you are only making the clamp for fun and pride at this point!
NEVER for pride!!!!!
finish is good enough for who its for, lol
mrpete222
Pride goeth before the fall right?
love your work Sir.
@Bobby W; The only reason I'd put a shine to is either as a display or personal choice. But since it's only a mild steel, the shine won't last long unless you chrome plated it or it was made from a chrome and or nickel steel.
why not host the drawing on your website?
Thanks for watching--too hard
mrpete222 thank you for the videos. They are the highlight of my day
THANK YOU...for sharing. What is the reason for the Brown and Sharpe vise to have the two radiuses on the moving jaw?
Not sure
If one were to get it to pretty, one would never use it.
define "nice"
Ive never heard you say anything good about any of your students. Did they ever do ANYTHING correct? No wonder they tore up everything they could get there hands on.
They fixed his brother's hex wrenches. :)
Mr. Pete's not being negative; he's using anecdotes to tell us what to watch for; what mistakes _not_ to make.
ShysterLawyer I can understand that. I really can. but never has he said anything positive about his classes. I watched Pete from the beginning of his channel. I thought he might say 1 thing good about his kids. I have respect and like Pete but wow. if they never did anything good maybe they needed another teacher.