Nirvana strategically using their fame to promote other artists that influenced them tells you so much about kurt and about Nirvana as a whole. Kurt - but all of them really - will always be respected by the underground for how strict their morality was when it came to how to approach being famous in the music industry. I believe that they never "sold out" and in utero is a perfect example of that.
Ahkmed TheClockKid they sold out. Every artist ends up selling out. Because name me one musician who doesn’t want to be famous and have money. Matter of fact name me one human who doesn’t want that.
Decland Girouard I definitely agree that, artistically, they didn’t sell out. But when they were in the room with the business men signing the contract, they def didn’t refuse. Their music is still awesome either way.
Mr Sea Turtle you’re 100% right. I guess “sold out” isn’t the correct term more so just jumped at the opportunity to gain fame. Which is something that no one would pass up. So it’s not like I’m blaming them or anything But I still never suggested that nirvana having talent meant they sold out. I still respect these guys immensely
‘Selling Out’ is making the album they want and expect you to make. Nirvana ALWAYS HAD CONTROL OVER EVERYTHING. They didn’t sell out in the least, and if any of you were smart, you’d recall the band realized that Sub Pop wasn’t able to support them as artists. They needed to sign to DGC.
I saw Nirvana at the Club Soda in Kalamazoo Michigan in the fall of 1989. Fantastic show forever etched in my mind! After their set Kurt walked through the empty dance floor of that small club and I stopped him to say how much I loved the show. There were maybe 20 people there. We talked for a bit and I sang him one of my songs. Unbelievable!!
Holy shit. I'm from Battle Creek and went to the Club Soda in the early 2000s and they had a plaque of Nirvana's 89 show. You are incredibly fortunate.
Why shouldn't he make money from his experiences? If he was there and we want to know some of the experiences he had with Cobain, why shouldn't I have to pay a few bucks to read about them? He did the work.
@@vickius Right on. This wasn't just Kurt's life. This was Danny Goldberg's life work. His legacy will be "the guy who managed Kurt Cobain. So why shouldn't he be able to capitalize on his life's work?
I liked how butch vig talked about nevermind. He put the tape on at his BBQ. everyone shut up and listened. when the tape was done, no one said anything, then "can you play it again?" and they again shut up and listened. they knew, as music lovers, what a great album it was.
I believe it was Steve Albini who said that everyone associated with the band were complete pieces of shit when he recorded in utero in 1993. He said the Nirvana guys were awesome guys but everyone else around the band, the label, management, agents, etc were all corporate dog shit.
Kurt always told people not to read too much into his lyrics. He said his song lyrics never really had an in depth explanation. I found that extraordinary.
I think his talents as a lyricist are underrated. It was probably difficult for him to be truly objective about his own work; ie., sometimes great artists can’t comprehend their own greatness. I bet if he’d lived a long enough life to distance himself from his songs, he would’ve developed a greater appreciation of his lyric writing abilities.
Kurt said in the about a son documentary(I think) something about nirvana's followers calling them sellouts when they first signed. Screw worrying about being a "sell out." They did their own thing and made some of the most unique music you'll ever hear. And they signed record deals and got famous. Nobody on earth is going to turn down a record deal or a lot of money because somebody back home is gonna call them a "sell out"
Yea. Exactly. And if there is ANY good reason to sell out its to be an artist. Can’t fucking be an artist without selling art. It’s the one thing you HAVE to do. People mean to say that they changed their sound to appease boring people. That’s so very often not true. Most bands that intend to please as many people as possible almost always tried to and probably just sucked at it in the beginning. “Selling out” is barely ever a thing. It’s happened but it’s a very naive way of trying to communicate a feeling of losing intimacy with a band due to them being well known. People really project their own shit onto everyone else. They really do.
@@Mraquanetchris i haven´t read the book but i will. have you? i have a feeling it´s a good book. look, i don´t know the guy, but he really seems pretty decent to me. i think he really cared about the band. fuck, it IS showbiz after all, he wants to make a few more bucks.. i understand, i get it - and i don´t blame him. and maybe some other bands/artists wish they had a guy like him as their manager.
4840 hB.t AO So their word is automatically gold? Sorry, I love the Melvins but they didn’t have half the talent Kurt did, and he didn’t need to sell out in order to put his vision and art across. They would have easily had to sell out. Kurt never did because his visions and talent put him in a spot to where he didn’t need to
The mention of Stevie Nicks' Bella Donna album made me remember how much I loved the duet she did with Tom Petty (R.i.P.) "Draggin' My Heart Around" which was featured on that album!! I never owned a copy of that album, but my exposure to that song was via the video for it which was on major rotation back in M-TV's first year when they only had a relative handful of videos to play per-day and was a regular feature over the years to come. That collaboration featured amongst the best male and female vocalists in the mainstream Rock genre at that time, and their combined performances on that song were complimentary to, and well-matched with, one another -- both for authentically delivering the tone of the subject matter in the lyrics and for the musical arrangement around their vocal performances.
My wife and I watch alot of true crime shows, and alot of people get put away for life with less evidence than there was with courtney being behind Kurt's death. Her handwriting practice sheet was in her backpack where she copied Kurt's writing over and over. They took all those letters she wrote and they matched every letter of the last lines of his "suicide" note
People shit on this guy for milking Nirvana but take a step back and realize if it wasn’t for this guy and others we wouldn’t have the records and the stories, so lighten up
They seem to think that Kurt was this was naive, innocent, mentally dysfunctional baby who didn't understand a single thing about the world and was confused by the most basic of concepts. Kurt knew above anyone that Nirvana was a business and treated it exactly as that. He shopped around for the record company to make them the biggest in the world, made the right connections, played the game and was incredibly savvy. Goldberg made him as famous as he wanted, he made Goldberg money and he adored Goldberg like a father. That's not to say his music wasn't sincere also but that this myth that he was some poor, confused, frightened little boy who didn't want any of it is ridiculous. He lost interest as his addiction worsened but he did everything he could to be famous.
"While all these things were very special, none were half as rewarding as having a baby with a person who is the supreme example of dignity, ethics and honesty. My wife challenges injustice and the reason her character has been so severely attacked is because she chooses not to function the way the white corporate man insists. His rules for women involve her being submissive, quiet, and non-challenging. When she doesn't follow his rules, the threatened man (who, incidentally, owns an army of devoted traitor women) gets scared. ... At this point I have a request for our fans. If any of you in any way hate homosexuals, people of different color, or women, please do this one favor for us -- leave us the fuck alone! Don't come to our shows and don't buy our records." -Cobain's liner notes to the 1992 compilation album, Incesticide.
I have no problem believing that Kurt was just as ambitious as any other artist that makes it to that level of popularity, but I think he was for the right reasons which isn't something that can be said for most other celebrities imo. He had something to say and wanted as many people as possible to hear it whereas people like Courtney only pursued fame solely for the purpose of being famous. Why you pursue something is just as important as what you're pursuing.
Why are the comments roasting this guy? I found this very interesting, he's giving insight on personal initimate moments and thoughts of Kurt that were never really saw or heard of.
He says things about Kurt that don't chime with the fictional idea of Kurt they have in their head, of a weak-willed, frightened little rabbit who never ever wanted fame but was bulled into it by evil forces, a well-adjusted man destroyed by the evil of those around him.
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Because everyone on the internet thinks they know everything.
Gotta love how people think they know a dead guy better from reading and watching interviews of him over people who actually been around him. Never change internet.
kwizzeh yeah and they all clearly know Michael Jackson’s sex life better than people who slept in the same bed as he did. People are remarkable in their profound genius.
Jrrcor I believe in my heart she did I don’t like to judge , there is one and only one that can do that ! Had baby , most likely to have more control over him. She just seemed so unsupportive , wanted his fame , jealously, controlling! No empathy towards his health ! I can go on , but my dog is farting on me at this moment and I’m about to get sick lol Just like Cortney makes me sick , when you see the need of attention she needed on videos and etc.. Omg Out Of here ! Miss him though , we at least have this guy that was a absolutely a prodigy ! Keep him close and closer to our hearts when listening to his amazing music ❣️ So sorry to you
.....there's a interview where Iggy pop siad that "Kurt had to die because he made a lot of people money".....I can't seem to find it anymore but Iggy siad that
Gish came out in May of 91 not a year before but a lot of amazing albums came out in 91 and around the time nevermind came out but nevermind blew everything away
Vanity Fair basically killed Kurt. It was the straw that broke the camel's back. People tend to forget that Danny Goldberg worked for Led Zeppelin and was already rich by the time Nirvana came along. I think Kurt gave it his best shot (as anyone would do) and accidentally overshot his goals. He didn't realize how mega big they were going to be and couldn't handle all the trappings that came with the level of success Nirvana achieved.
Yes, I agree. I was 24 at the time. Danny never advised Kurt that a journalist doesnt have to bring a video camera to a Kurt interview, a tape recorder was suffice. And that would of been a relief to Kurt not being "seen" in an interview that was not to be video taped.
He says as much and that one documentary was just his interviews they enjoyed anonymity on the level that they had before they became globally famous. You know you just couldn't go in a thrift store any more anything like that. Wish the people that enjoy that sort of thing it would be annoying to do what you did before and be recognized all the time. I'm going to go out on limb and say Elvis probably had a problem with that towards the end of his life. At some point you just want anonymity so you can just live a normal life. But for some reason modern entertainment just as a screwed up thing to people's brains and they become obsessed.
I grew up in the Seattle area. I saw Nirvana when they were playing battle of the bands at high schools. I'm a fan of Kurt's, of Nirvana, of all the "grunge" music that came out of my home town. Listening to Danny Goldberg compare Kurt and Courtney to John and Yoko makes me puke. Guys like Goldberg who swooped in to cash in on (and generate) the hype that swirled around Nirvana in 1991-1992 are nothing but corporate greed pigs of the highest order. The sad part was that everybody, even the most casual fan, much less those closest to Kurt, could see how TERRIBLE Courtney was, both as a human being in general, and as a "partner" for Kurt. Goldberg was at best an enabler of the disfunction that ultimately destroyed Kurt, all the while lining his pockets. While it is nice to laud Kurt's talent and artistic vision post mortum, and portray him as being "competitive", people like Danny Goldberg and Courtney Love seem to use such praises as a means to exculpate themselves from the tremendous harm they did to him at the time, and entirely avoid taking any responsibility for the truth, which is--> they were the very agents most directly responsible for his tragic, and preventable, suicide.
Heroin and depression was Kurt's downfall and if u want to hate on Courtney then u must hate on Kurt because he loved her and married her! Problem is he also married heroin and couldn't get out!
That's a load of absolute bs. Cobain seeked out labels, recorded demos, signed a contract and recorded music with a producer- and then it was distributed and SOLD....lol The "whole bohemian purity of the artist surrounded by corporate greed" is a naive and shallow perspective on how the world runs. This guy has EVERY SINGLE right to cash in on his PERSONAL experience with such a huge band and eccentric personality.
@@OhMeOhMy77 kurt was pussy struck. And when he realized it it was too late. Simple. They were together for almost three years. Within those years kurt started smoking regularly and all his shit he s made and built up is hers in only 3 three years with her he dies . She s said. If I dont have an impact on this world I'm gonna be close to someone who does.
Blaming others for someone's suicide is extremely distasteful. No one is to blame. Kurt Cobain had a plethora of problems and didn't deal with them accordingly... sadly. Not because he didn't want to, but because he couldn't. If he'd had a happy upbringing, for instance, he wouldn't have got involved with drugs... Courtney Love made the decision to improve her life for her daughter, but he was far gone into his depression and drug use. Fame was a bad ingredient into the mix. Not to mention his undiagnosed stomach problem that was so horrible. Many fans direct their hurt from his passing to his wife. As a wife myself I can tell you it's very hard to change my husband's mind once it's set. Finally, how would you feel reading your comment if you were his daughter!?
Ask him, why courtney showed to him, this practice sheet of letters. And why they not telling anything to rosemary ( his wife and kurt and courtney attorney).
Thinking the same... Why was Rosemary more than happy to say to Tom that it was suspicious, and then clam up and never talk about it anymore? Danny wanted that money!
Nock I always thought that it was a conspiracy theory, just people grasping at anything to excuse the suicide, but after hearing that she had a practice sheet, I admit now that I don’t think it’s certain it was a suicide ... the other thing is that every public statement that Kurt was suicidal came from Courtney, not a trustworthy source at all
Dave ghrol did a good thing to move on. If your singer makes a life changing desicion you can't dwell on it. Life goes on i got alot of respect for foos for that
I’m sorry but I do not understand your comment. Life changing decision? He shot himself in the head and died. It’s not like they could’ve resumed the band. You also heard in the interview he wrote the music that’s including the drum parts.
Joan Jett and Kenny LaGuna use to come to this restaurant i worked out years ago called Vitos in Long Beach NY. Joan was so nice. I see her in town a lot especially on the boardwalk.
It saddens me to see people "idolize" a musician like Kurt Cobain. He twice overdosed on heroin, and then shot himself in the head with a shotgun. Sadly, he should have been thinking of his daughter before he selfishly pulled that trigger. Yes, he wrote a few good songs, but there were many other good artists in the 90's besides him. You think Taylor Hawkins would have known better, eh ?
@curragh 42 Too late now. I've been a Nirvana fan since 1991 & at this point in time, I just accept some things that come out on Nirvana. If it let's me know more about Kurt's personality, I'm all for it. Can't change what's already gonna happen anyway, so no sense in arguing.
I don't know why people are making such a big deal of this. Of course Kurt wanted to be successful, but not in the way most people think. He he wanted to do great music and art and have recognition for it and be able to make a living, meeting great artists... well, basically just have his talent recognized. But he wasn't interested with everything that was involved with being famous. I mean, the public persona and everything.
He liked being famous. He’s goal was to be the biggest and best band in the world. Unfortunately that didn’t cure his depression. He was always looking for something.
"I was talking to Courtney about the book.." She said Kurt was just as ambitious as her?Kurt slogged his guts out,lived in poverty and toured for years to get where he was..Courtney destroyed everyone in her path on her way to fame and got knocked up to a rock star within weeks of meeting him. The only thing those two had in common were a kid and heroin.
21:00 Bingo...this is thing that gets misremembered by most people. Pearl Jam was actually a more commercially successful band than Nirvana before Cobain died. By the time 1993 rolled around In Utero actually was not a huge album when it came out(it debuted well but fell off the charts quick)... Pearl Jam's Vs which came out a few weeks later was a massive success so Pearl Jam had 2 mega albums in a row whereas Nirvana had 1. It wasn't until Cobain's suicide that Nirvana obtained this next level success and all of their albums picked up a lot of sales after he died. Prior to Kurt's death Nevermind sold 5 million albums and In Utero sold 1 million. Pearl Jam on the other hand sold 6 million copies of Ten and 5 million copies of Vs. I'm only bringing this up because this part of the history gets confused as everyone thinks Nirvana was the biggest band during the grunge wave because of the entire "knocked Michael Jackson off the charts" which is an amazing thing but it's a false narrative if you try and measure who was actually bigger band and I'm a bigger Nirvana fan than Pearl Jam. Facts should be accurate. Remember in the fall of 1993 it was Eddie Vedder on the cover of Time Magazine...thats how big Pearl Jam's Vs was at the time but when Kurt died 6 months later he became the clear voice the generation. content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19931025,00.html
Yes, I always mention this fact myself, thanks for bringing that up. People always think Nirvana was gigantenormous when Kurt died - they weren't. Actually, their popularity was coasting a bit with "In Utero", even if they were still, of course, successful. Nirvana hit big with "Nevermind" but didn't tour the US with it. In the meantime, Pearl Jam was everywhere and Nirvana kind of lost momentum (which is probably, to an extent, what they wanted, even if Kurt was also paranoid about being broke again). It's not surprising in that, in my opinion, "Ten" is a very typical album of 70s classic rock in a way done in 1991 - it could appeal to a lot of people. I think "Nevermind" was actually more extreme than "Ten". The Pumpkins' "Siamese Dream" , that came out around the same time as "In Utero" and "Vs" was also a big seller in the US than "In Utero" at the time. That said, it's a US perspective. I'm french and Nirvana was the biggest band of the bunch in France when Kurt was alive, hands down. Pearl Jam only got to play a club in Paris when they toured for "Ten" - Nirvana played a 7000 seats venue, and they played well attended venues for the In Utero tour as well. Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden all played clubs in Paris when Nirvana was around. Actually, Soundgarden were playing a 1500 capacity parisian club when they were told that Kurt was dead. These bands enjoyed much more success locally after Kurt's death (as a new generation of teens got into Nirvana and "grunge"/alternative music). Of course, Soundgarden had opened for Guns n' Roses in Paris in 92 - but as I was saying, they were just opening up and most people there didn't know them yet! So, Nirvana was the only band of its kind that was big in France at the time - and of course it only grew post April 1994.
Don't forget that Nirvana was freaked out by the level of fame they achieved, and were purposely putting out a record that was more abrasive and "challenging" in order to be true to themselves and what they were all about. With all the pressure to make a Nevermind II, they decided to record with Albini and release songs like "Tourettes" and "Scentless Apprentice." No disrespect to PJ btw. Happy they're still doing it.
Of course! "In Utero" was a conscious move...Even "Incesticide" was also a low-key release that kept the audience fed as there was no new album recorded by late 92, but also a statement of "this is what we were/are" with more extreme tracks like "Beeswax" or "Hairspray Queen". It didn't sell much but it was out there, and a great compilation period! No disrespect to PJ at all, I like them a lot!
@Mike S. "Two years after Nevermind had changed the rock-and-roll world, the ultimate establishment magazine, Time, was belatedly working on a cover story about the "new" wave of popular, punk-influenced rock and roll. Kurt didn't want to do an interview, and I vaguely remember encouraging him not to. The last thing I wanted was for him to feel he was being pushed into something mainstream he didn't like, and as a practical matter Time covers had been a mixed blessing to rock artists over the years. However, I later learned that Kurt had second thoughts about having blown it off." -from Danny Goldberg's book Serving the Servant: Remembering Kurt Cobain. Page 232, Chapter 13.
Courtney Love hired a guy named Richard Allen Wrench (stage name) to kill Kurt. Courtney had herself arrested to clear her name but after being released and finding out nobody found the body she hired a technician to install a security system in the place Kurt's body was. The same man killed El Duce, a guy who was offered $50,000 to kill Kurt but turned it down. Courtneys a murdering psychopath no talent junkie. The problem with the case was it was deemed a suicide by the police who first arrived and not by the proper homicide unit which disturbed the scene; so an investigtion will never be re-opened. He probably wouldve quit music and pursued art/painting in some way, who knows, but he loved his daughter and being a Dad, he didn't kill himself. Period.
I find it funny, not in a ha ha way, that his wife thinks there was foul play. She is actually recorded thinking this. Now I am thinking out loud. I wonder is Mr Goldberg had any idea what would befall Kurt.
hey was competitive with Eddie Vedder? you mean layne staley he even is quoted saying that layne was basicly on a nother never and there's a guy chris cornell
Who was quoted? Kurt? I never read anything said by him about Layne. I know he made a joke about shooting cocaine with them all night to Nardwuar but never about Layne himself.
@Ian Curtis Courtney is doing everything and I mean EVERYTHING she can to really nail in the suicide theory because a sequel to "Soaked In Bleach" is in the making.
@Ian Curtis you're right that Tom did say that there were things he was saving for when the case is reopened, but he also said at a different time, that there wasn't enough time to fit all the evidence into one movie, so they tried to just get out the most important information. There's so much more information though, you can tell by reading cobaincase.com that so much had been left out, but it's because there wasn't enough room. I think about the facts that were left out of the first movie, and really look forward to the second one!! I don't know if I'd commit to the case never being reopened, but I understand your thoughts on that because I've thought it too, and that might be the case sadly, but did you happen to take a look at the thousands upon thousands of people that left hate comments on Courtney's page after "SIB" came out?? She had to go in and block so many people, it took her weeks to do it!!! That and removing the comments. From what I saw at that time, we were a lot closer than what I'd thought we'd be!! Maybe this next movie will not only shed more light on more things surrounding the case, but as a result, get more public outcry for the case to reopen. The thing is to never give up!! Plus I think about the law of attraction and visualize the day she's locked up, and this new movie being the catalyst for that. It could happen!!
If seems like there’s a cover up that’s bigger than Courtney covering something up. It seems like the police are really working against it, even though I’m reality it should be taken seriously.
@@califtomNo he didn't. Take the time to do a little bit of research & digging, and you'll find that it isn't even a matter of opinion. If your mind can comprehend functioning for something like that
@@theyoyoyo7833 yes he did. cite the source for your research and "digging". you have an authentic note and a victim with a history of depression. Kurt very clearly ended his own life.
@@theyoyoyo7833 I agree its not a matter of opinion. Kurt unquestionably took his own life. That's what every shred of physical evidence in this case says.
Truly a most excellent interview! Just caught up with this. Regrettably missed the #Rizzoli signing in New York last Friday! hey everybody, don't forget, #RECORDSTOREDAY is this Saturday April 13th!!!
….after watching Get Back, Yoko was a very respectful person and didn’t hurt anything….I wish Kurt had seen Get Back, the perception of Yoko has changed.
He doesnt talk about his wife Rosemary Carroll? She was kurt and courtneys lawyer and had evidence he was murdered. She is also recorded on tape saying he was killed.
Caidema Official of course they’re not gonna mention that. He’s obviously still friends with her. They don’t care. As Steve Albini said “Everyone around Nirvana Inc., except for the band members themselves, are complete pieces of shit.”
Opportunist..... Kurt would've been irritated af! But I'm sure taking the angle of his work instead of his downfall will undoubtedly sell none the less.
Danny's book is a nice homage, one could argue it's unnecessary, but it compliments Kurt's legacy. By this point in time, 25 years later, you learn to accept these kinds of things.
@@dianarchy23 sure, like I said it's a good angle so it will sell, and if it had come from someone who was actually close to him at one point in time it would even mean something. Not from this idiot though, and I may be used to seeing ugly people capitalize on ugly things but I am and always will be one stubborn son of a bitch and I would never support such a venture.
@@yjjeeper1 You only know what you've read in other accounts. Why don't you read this one & then form an opinion? Danny doesn't shy away from bringing up points in time where he was looked at as being slimey. He has no hidden agenda, Kurt & Danny's relationship was obviously always based in business (welcome to the real world), but Kurt & Danny had a closer relationship than most manager/musicians go, according to Danny's book.
@@dianarchy23 while I will agree that one of the biggest sins in life is hiding yourself from knowledge or deliberate ignorance, I also agree that your opinions come from what you feed yourself intellectually so I see no benefit in getting a personal opinion from someone who has only a profit agenda and a business perspective to offer. He knows this, that's why he's pushing the so called personal relationship aspect, I'm sure he'll tell you they'd jerk each other off if it would sell 10,000 more copies. But by all means bro, fill your tank with whatever suits you, I'm just a random fan on yt but that's my two cents on this dip shit.
@@yjjeeper1 Alright, then, "bro". Your mind is closed & you think you're right about Danny being a vampire, so you might wanna exit this particular RUclips video as it seems to just be pissing you off.
SomeKinda DruidDude And don’t forget timing; both Nirvana and The Beatles had great music, but they also had excellent timing for when they first struck in the mainstream.
There was this rant from Courtney online telling of a funeral company that abused Kurt’s body. Apparently funeral home employees danced with his corpse and carved the word “fag” into his skin. Very disturbing. It was like a 1720 word rant from an obvious messed up Courtney. Did any of you hear of this?
Nirvanas music is so raw and powerful. I'll listen to Kurts music until the day i die. Most of this info I've known about for years so i don't see myself buying this book unless its at a discount. Still neat to hear new tid bits about the band.
All those Courtney haters are heavily misinformed fans or just mind-atrophied guys without critical thinking. Most probably patriarchy guys that blame woman for random shit or Ancient Aliens conspiracy fans. By 1994 Kurt was worn out, depressed, heavily addicted, damaged by the coma and pretty overwhelmed by his overall circumstances, so he killed himself and taked all his beautiful talent from us. Courtney and Kurt's inner circle are victims of a pretty sad situation and don't deserve any bashing.
Cortney is a horrible person. She’s wanted to hook up with a big rockstar that would boost her career. Shes an oportunistic predator. She would do anything for famę and money and would do everything necesary to destroy everyone she persuea as enemies. She was in the game for fame and mony not art. Feminists shouldn’t defend Cortney. Defending her is similar to defending OJ Simpson.
@@orestmakar8562 She's not, she had her own career, she was pretty ambitious as an artist, not a groupie. She actually didn't focus enough in her music between 91 to 94 because of the crazy big Nirvana success. No one knew how HUGE Nirvana was going to be when she and Kurt started their relationship. All that black widow shit it's based not on facts, but on rumours made by pretty unreliable people, like her father, an stupid acid head, 'El Duce' and other jealous unsucessful artists. I'm not even a CL fan personally. Here are the facts: she was an ambitious, competent artist, also, a junkie, a damaged person, and pretty toxic by the means of a relationship, as so was Kurt. We are no one to judge, they loved each other, they tried their bests, but things went out of control and Kurt just went lost. That's not Courtneys fault.
How has Goldberg not seen the video of Vig walking through nevermind or has seen the interview of Kurt himself saying Ghrol was better than John Bonham. What research was done? I think its awesome that he was who he was but to write a book and have critical, well known interviews missing yields a null product.
I don't understand how some people call recording Nevermind "selling out" - it was by far Cobain's best album, best songwriting, and the production is obviously sonically better. Catchier, yes - but compromised, no. Unless you call adopting a more radio-friendly sound an all-through-compromise.
he and this interview sounds, of if someone said to him : Do what you like - for Kurt, talk good about him, that's the vehicle, tell other stuff whatever, but either way do your actual job: make sure you help saving Courtney Love's reputation. Don't tell anyone that the official suicide version by evidence is wrong and don't tell anyone Kurt ordered his Attorney in March 94 to file the divorce of the marriage. Do your Job. Talk about Courtney and repair her image, That's what you are here for.
@@ColdShatters Jesus Christ are you with Universal Music Group or Gold Mountain Entertainment or something the guy was fuckin murdered its like the most obvious murder in rock history
@@kungpao-wp2sq I went to Aberdeen and everyone there says yeah it's common knowledge she had him killed. We all know it. The whole town the whole state. We all know over here. I was like interesting. She had a story kurt used to always have flies around him. He passed out on a friends yard all drunk. Younger cobain of course. But she said without a doubt. There is no theory in seattle. The truth is what it is and its fucked
Kurt did not kill himself. I didn't get why he had to go outta his way to say that in public until he revealed later that he's kinda friends with Courtney. At least biz relationships.
@@josephbowles4995 Someone paid by Courtney Love.. No doubt. This guy is nothing but another asshole on Courtney's payroll, who is exploiting and, of course, profiting from a murder victim.
Kurt really got to hanging out with a really bad crowd and that's how it all happened wished no one would have ever introduced heroin to kurt thanks to the assholes who did we lost a great guy with endless talent. Music industry would have been more advanced now than what it is if kurt were still here. Teen spirit was well advance for its time he was a music genius
@@michaellawrence5387 You're responses are terrible. I swear...it's like I know on which comment where there will be a stupid reply and it's always from you. Always.
Nirvana strategically using their fame to promote other artists that influenced them tells you so much about kurt and about Nirvana as a whole. Kurt - but all of them really - will always be respected by the underground for how strict their morality was when it came to how to approach being famous in the music industry. I believe that they never "sold out" and in utero is a perfect example of that.
Ahkmed TheClockKid they sold out. Every artist ends up selling out. Because name me one musician who doesn’t want to be famous and have money. Matter of fact name me one human who doesn’t want that.
Decland Girouard I definitely agree that, artistically, they didn’t sell out. But when they were in the room with the business men signing the contract, they def didn’t refuse.
Their music is still awesome either way.
@@borginburkes1819 Having talent is not selling out, writing an original catchy song is not an easy task
Mr Sea Turtle you’re 100% right. I guess “sold out” isn’t the correct term more so just jumped at the opportunity to gain fame. Which is something that no one would pass up. So it’s not like I’m blaming them or anything
But I still never suggested that nirvana having talent meant they sold out. I still respect these guys immensely
‘Selling Out’ is making the album they want and expect you to make. Nirvana ALWAYS HAD CONTROL OVER EVERYTHING. They didn’t sell out in the least, and if any of you were smart, you’d recall the band realized that Sub Pop wasn’t able to support them as artists. They needed to sign to DGC.
I saw Nirvana at the Club Soda in Kalamazoo Michigan in the fall of 1989. Fantastic show forever etched in my mind! After their set Kurt walked through the empty dance floor of that small club and I stopped him to say how much I loved the show. There were maybe 20 people there. We talked for a bit and I sang him one of my songs. Unbelievable!!
Holy shit. I'm from Battle Creek and went to the Club Soda in the early 2000s and they had a plaque of Nirvana's 89 show. You are incredibly fortunate.
Guns N' Roses are better
@Tyler Yeah Masculine Men, Nirvana completely sucked Masculinity right out of music to a point we haven't fully recovered from it today
@Tyler more like 50 guy.
@@markmullins132 Nirvana, Metallica and Megadeth >>>>>>> Guns N Roses
Jerry Springer was Nirvana’s manager?
handsomerube oh? I thought Nirvana was Jerry Springer ‘s manager. Guess you learn something new after you take a huge crap and it won’t flush!!!
😂
Holy shit he does,look like Jerry Springer
Fucking Hilarious! My mom's a bitch!!!!
Spot on jerry! Jerry!!
I just miss Kurt but I still listen to his music on a regular basis always have always will
The book should be called "Milk It"
Your terrible!!!! 😡
Why shouldn't he make money from his experiences? If he was there and we want to know some of the experiences he had with Cobain, why shouldn't I have to pay a few bucks to read about them? He did the work.
@@vickius Right on. This wasn't just Kurt's life. This was Danny Goldberg's life work. His legacy will be "the guy who managed Kurt Cobain. So why shouldn't he be able to capitalize on his life's work?
@@vickius I'm sure he's been doing ok money wise lol... The guy manged legendary bands...
This guy doesn't need to milk it. Hes fine with his bank.
People forget that Jane’s Addiction and the Pixies were the american alt rock standard bearers prior to Nirvana breaking
REM?
Angst, grunge, Nirvana. Janes Addiction, not so much. Nirvana was something else.
It's been pretty well documented that these bands paved the way for Nirvana
Faith No More was cited as an influence by Krist, influential more than Jane's Addiction.
Jane’s is still one of the best bands ever!!!
I liked how butch vig talked about nevermind. He put the tape on at his BBQ. everyone shut up and listened. when the tape was done, no one said anything, then "can you play it again?" and they again shut up and listened. they knew, as music lovers, what a great album it was.
"Something in the way....YEAH! Hmmmmm……"
Right on.
I think it was Billy Corgan who expirienced it that way and said that in some interview, not Butch Vig
@@andrepereira744I saw a vid recently where butch told this story.
Richard Shapiro I guess Corgan was there,because he said the same thing
He left us 26 years ago. I miss his music. Kurt Cobain, never forgotten ❤️❤️❤️
I believe it was Steve Albini who said that everyone associated with the band were complete pieces of shit when he recorded in utero in 1993. He said the Nirvana guys were awesome guys but everyone else around the band, the label, management, agents, etc were all corporate dog shit.
This guy look like mrs doubt fire
GENERAL DISARRAY'S BOSS 83 curb that bs
GENERAL DISARRAY'S BOSS 83 no as a Jew, I can attest to the fact that we look like transvestites.
@@johnhelmka1271 Chill
@@bluebotmemes5125 yeah, your right
Why do you think they decided to put Cobain's face on the cover of the book.
Kurt always told people not to read too much into his lyrics. He said his song lyrics never really had an in depth explanation. I found that extraordinary.
I think his talents as a lyricist are underrated. It was probably difficult for him to be truly objective about his own work; ie., sometimes great artists can’t comprehend their own greatness. I bet if he’d lived a long enough life to distance himself from his songs, he would’ve developed a greater appreciation of his lyric writing abilities.
@@satorified1612he knew exactly how good he was at writing. He faked for e eryone that he didn't so u wouldn't know how much he cared
@@MadMalikBand Agreed. I mean there's a reason he changed pop culture.....
"Krist is in the DNA code of Nirvana in every way' I love that!
Kurt said in the about a son documentary(I think) something about nirvana's followers calling them sellouts when they first signed. Screw worrying about being a "sell out." They did their own thing and made some of the most unique music you'll ever hear. And they signed record deals and got famous. Nobody on earth is going to turn down a record deal or a lot of money because somebody back home is gonna call them a "sell out"
Fugazi not sell out
It's pretty much inevitable that when an underground band gets successful they get dubbed sellouts.
Yea. Exactly. And if there is ANY good reason to sell out its to be an artist. Can’t fucking be an artist without selling art. It’s the one thing you HAVE to do.
People mean to say that they changed their sound to appease boring people. That’s so very often not true. Most bands that intend to please as many people as possible almost always tried to and probably just sucked at it in the beginning.
“Selling out” is barely ever a thing. It’s happened but it’s a very naive way of trying to communicate a feeling of losing intimacy with a band due to them being well known.
People really project their own shit onto everyone else. They really do.
All these vids remind me of a Buzz Osborne quote about Kurt : " He found himself surrounded by the worst people on earth."
and goldberg seems to be such a bad person to you?
@@thomaspuhringer1314 Not really. However, the proliferation people still making $ off the memory is unsettling.
@@Mraquanetchris i haven´t read the book but i will. have you? i have a feeling it´s a good book. look, i don´t know the guy, but he really seems pretty decent to me. i think he really cared about the band. fuck, it IS showbiz after all, he wants to make a few more bucks.. i understand, i get it - and i don´t blame him. and maybe some other bands/artists wish they had a guy like him as their manager.
Danny Goldberg was one of the worst people on earth that surrounded him. Buzz and Steve Albini have basically said as much.
4840 hB.t AO So their word is automatically gold? Sorry, I love the Melvins but they didn’t have half the talent Kurt did, and he didn’t need to sell out in order to put his vision and art across. They would have easily had to sell out. Kurt never did because his visions and talent put him in a spot to where he didn’t need to
The mention of Stevie Nicks' Bella Donna album made me remember how much I loved the duet she did with Tom Petty (R.i.P.) "Draggin' My Heart Around" which was featured on that album!! I never owned a copy of that album, but my exposure to that song was via the video for it which was on major rotation back in M-TV's first year when they only had a relative handful of videos to play per-day and was a regular feature over the years to come. That collaboration featured amongst the best male and female vocalists in the mainstream Rock genre at that time, and their combined performances on that song were complimentary to, and well-matched with, one another -- both for authentically delivering the tone of the subject matter in the lyrics and for the musical arrangement around their vocal performances.
My wife and I watch alot of true crime shows, and alot of people get put away for life with less evidence than there was with courtney being behind Kurt's death. Her handwriting practice sheet was in her backpack where she copied Kurt's writing over and over. They took all those letters she wrote and they matched every letter of the last lines of his "suicide" note
Where can I read about this? Or is it in a documentary I could watch?
Wow original 😂😂
Not too mention how much heroin was in his system. Nobody does that much heroin then suicides. They can't. Biggest red flag
@@TheChadPad prime video Soaked In Bleach
@@erickasimonewat thank you
Glad i was there for this sonic shift..ill never 4get it..you could actually FEEL something was happening..life changing...and RARE.
People shit on this guy for milking Nirvana but take a step back and realize if it wasn’t for this guy and others we wouldn’t have the records and the stories, so lighten up
They seem to think that Kurt was this was naive, innocent, mentally dysfunctional baby who didn't understand a single thing about the world and was confused by the most basic of concepts.
Kurt knew above anyone that Nirvana was a business and treated it exactly as that. He shopped around for the record company to make them the biggest in the world, made the right connections, played the game and was incredibly savvy. Goldberg made him as famous as he wanted, he made Goldberg money and he adored Goldberg like a father.
That's not to say his music wasn't sincere also but that this myth that he was some poor, confused, frightened little boy who didn't want any of it is ridiculous. He lost interest as his addiction worsened but he did everything he could to be famous.
@@Danathema beautifully said
The concert at the Coliseum... Nov 14, 1993 - my 13th birthday and also the occasion for which I received In Utero. #changedmylife
Mandy Prater .....wow my bdays nov 14th too and we have the same last name.🧐
@@toddprater14 whoa and hopefully you're also a nirvana fan I'm guessing? If you like them, check out my music on my channel :)
@kyfaydfsoab well if you do the math, technically no, depending on who you ask.
Rosemary Carroll , when will you tell the real history?
Yes!!!! I'd LOVE to hear her come clean!!!
"While all these things were very special, none were half as rewarding as having a baby with a person who is the supreme example of dignity, ethics and honesty. My wife challenges injustice and the reason her character has been so severely attacked is because she chooses not to function the way the white corporate man insists. His rules for women involve her being submissive, quiet, and non-challenging. When she doesn't follow his rules, the threatened man (who, incidentally, owns an army of devoted traitor women) gets scared.
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At this point I have a request for our fans. If any of you in any way hate homosexuals, people of different color, or women, please do this one favor for us -- leave us the fuck alone! Don't come to our shows and don't buy our records." -Cobain's liner notes to the 1992 compilation album, Incesticide.
@@joshuadramsey It is Cobain before 1993. 1994 is Other history my friend. You Know im Right.
@@joshuadramsey People say alot of stuff man... imagine being held to shit you said when you were 25...
exactly thank you .. poor women
Thanks for mentioning Bulgaria in the first place ☺️ Nirvana is very important here and Kurt is the most inspirational artist to me.
I have no problem believing that Kurt was just as ambitious as any other artist that makes it to that level of popularity, but I think he was for the right reasons which isn't something that can be said for most other celebrities imo. He had something to say and wanted as many people as possible to hear it whereas people like Courtney only pursued fame solely for the purpose of being famous. Why you pursue something is just as important as what you're pursuing.
FEAR also did SNL, first punk band ever.
New York's all right if you like saxophones !
Jay P. First punk band on SNL, bro...
Replacements also did SNL but they were probably not considered punk by that time - the Tim album. But they definitely started out punk
@@overground2007 The Mats are total legends. Love that band.
Thank you. You said it for me.
Ahhh yes, Danny "The Liar" Goldberg...perfect 👏 👏 👏
Why are the comments roasting this guy? I found this very interesting, he's giving insight on personal initimate moments and thoughts of Kurt that were never really saw or heard of.
Have you actually read them?
No I haven't
He says things about Kurt that don't chime with the fictional idea of Kurt they have in their head, of a weak-willed, frightened little rabbit who never ever wanted fame but was bulled into it by evil forces, a well-adjusted man destroyed by the evil of those around him.
Because everyone on the internet thinks they know everything.
Gotta love how people think they know a dead guy better from reading and watching interviews of him over people who actually been around him. Never change internet.
kwizzeh yeah and they all clearly know Michael Jackson’s sex life better than people who slept in the same bed as he did. People are remarkable in their profound genius.
I knew Kurt... and he was murdered. Courtney was afraid she would be left with nothing. She was right!
Jrrcor I believe in my heart she did
I don’t like to judge , there is one and only one that can do that ! Had baby , most likely to have more control over him.
She just seemed so unsupportive , wanted his fame , jealously, controlling!
No empathy towards his health !
I can go on , but my dog is farting on me at this moment and I’m about to get sick lol
Just like
Cortney makes me sick , when you see the need of attention she needed on videos and etc..
Omg Out Of here !
Miss him though , we at least have this guy that was a absolutely a prodigy !
Keep him close and closer to our hearts when listening to his amazing music ❣️
So sorry to you
Pretty much. 10/10 comment
He was his manager. Not really his close friend. Keep that in mind.
.....there's a interview where Iggy pop siad that "Kurt had to die because he made a lot of people money".....I can't seem to find it anymore but Iggy siad that
“Wasn’t on MTV Cribs” - was that a dumb joke? That show came out like a decade after Kurt died
But do you get what he was trying to say???
This radio jockey is a doorknob, not only for that. Seems like he just read about Nirvana the night before this.
Kris Frederick and he has a big forehead!
Gish came out in May of 91 not a year before but a lot of amazing albums came out in 91 and around the time nevermind came out but nevermind blew everything away
Thanks for the interview, glad we are still talking about Nirvana and Kurt, important stuff
Vanity Fair basically killed Kurt. It was the straw that broke the camel's back. People tend to forget that Danny Goldberg worked for Led Zeppelin and was already rich by the time Nirvana came along. I think Kurt gave it his best shot (as anyone would do) and accidentally overshot his goals. He didn't realize how mega big they were going to be and couldn't handle all the trappings that came with the level of success Nirvana achieved.
Yes, I agree. I was 24 at the time. Danny never advised Kurt that a journalist doesnt have to bring a video camera to a Kurt interview, a tape recorder was suffice. And that would of been a relief to Kurt not being "seen" in an interview that was not to be video taped.
He says as much and that one documentary was just his interviews they enjoyed anonymity on the level that they had before they became globally famous. You know you just couldn't go in a thrift store any more anything like that. Wish the people that enjoy that sort of thing it would be annoying to do what you did before and be recognized all the time. I'm going to go out on limb and say Elvis probably had a problem with that towards the end of his life. At some point you just want anonymity so you can just live a normal life. But for some reason modern entertainment just as a screwed up thing to people's brains and they become obsessed.
I grew up in the Seattle area. I saw Nirvana when they were playing battle of the bands at high schools. I'm a fan of Kurt's, of Nirvana, of all the "grunge" music that came out of my home town. Listening to Danny Goldberg compare Kurt and Courtney to John and Yoko makes me puke. Guys like Goldberg who swooped in to cash in on (and generate) the hype that swirled around Nirvana in 1991-1992 are nothing but corporate greed pigs of the highest order. The sad part was that everybody, even the most casual fan, much less those closest to Kurt, could see how TERRIBLE Courtney was, both as a human being in general, and as a "partner" for Kurt. Goldberg was at best an enabler of the disfunction that ultimately destroyed Kurt, all the while lining his pockets. While it is nice to laud Kurt's talent and artistic vision post mortum, and portray him as being "competitive", people like Danny Goldberg and Courtney Love seem to use such praises as a means to exculpate themselves from the tremendous harm they did to him at the time, and entirely avoid taking any responsibility for the truth, which is--> they were the very agents most directly responsible for his tragic, and preventable, suicide.
Heroin and depression was Kurt's downfall and if u want to hate on Courtney then u must hate on Kurt because he loved her and married her! Problem is he also married heroin and couldn't get out!
That's a load of absolute bs.
Cobain seeked out labels, recorded demos, signed a contract and recorded music with a producer- and then it was distributed and SOLD....lol
The "whole bohemian purity of the artist surrounded by corporate greed" is a naive and shallow perspective on how the world runs.
This guy has EVERY SINGLE right to cash in on his PERSONAL experience with such a huge band and eccentric personality.
@@nameeman5051 preach dude!
@@OhMeOhMy77 kurt was pussy struck. And when he realized it it was too late. Simple. They were together for almost three years. Within those years kurt started smoking regularly and all his shit he s made and built up is hers in only 3 three years with her he dies . She s said. If I dont have an impact on this world I'm gonna be close to someone who does.
Blaming others for someone's suicide is extremely distasteful. No one is to blame. Kurt Cobain had a plethora of problems and didn't deal with them accordingly... sadly. Not because he didn't want to, but because he couldn't. If he'd had a happy upbringing, for instance, he wouldn't have got involved with drugs... Courtney Love made the decision to improve her life for her daughter, but he was far gone into his depression and drug use. Fame was a bad ingredient into the mix. Not to mention his undiagnosed stomach problem that was so horrible. Many fans direct their hurt from his passing to his wife. As a wife myself I can tell you it's very hard to change my husband's mind once it's set. Finally, how would you feel reading your comment if you were his daughter!?
Ask him, why courtney showed to him, this practice sheet of letters. And why they not telling anything to rosemary ( his wife and kurt and courtney attorney).
Thinking the same... Why was Rosemary more than happy to say to Tom that it was suspicious, and then clam up and never talk about it anymore? Danny wanted that money!
Yeah right, here you can watch it: ruclips.net/video/j8hrXHS8-gA/видео.html @@gbollc
Nock I always thought that it was a conspiracy theory, just people grasping at anything to excuse the suicide, but after hearing that she had a practice sheet, I admit now that I don’t think it’s certain it was a suicide ... the other thing is that every public statement that Kurt was suicidal came from Courtney, not a trustworthy source at all
She was a serious prescription pill addict so I'm not surprised she'd try to fake handwriting in order to get them.
John Smith1999 it is a conspiracy. Cobain bought the gun and skipped rehab like a day later. Dig deeper
Hey Danny, if you were such a great manager, how come there wasn’t a single mention of your name in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame induction?!
He could have wrote a book about his experience managing all the bands listed. Hole, Sonic Youth, and Nirvana.
Dave ghrol did a good thing to move on. If your singer makes a life changing desicion you can't dwell on it. Life goes on i got alot of respect for foos for that
I’m sorry but I do not understand your comment. Life changing decision? He shot himself in the head and died. It’s not like they could’ve resumed the band. You also heard in the interview he wrote the music that’s including the drum parts.
Joan Jett and Kenny LaGuna use to come to this restaurant i worked out years ago called Vitos in Long Beach NY. Joan was so nice. I see her in town a lot especially on the boardwalk.
I once ate cheese in Italy.
Deacon Brodie - Formagio Parmeseana Reggiano was particularly good in Florence, Italy, Europe!
im here for nirvana. thanks for this Manager
Appreciate sharing the experiences!
I was around at nirvanas explosion. Kurts music lyrics were so understanding and down to earth. He changed music like internet changed the world
That was wonderful, thank you for sharing.
"I was talking to Courtney about the book" You're compromised.
She confided in a murderer. (I've heard rumors he was in on it or helped cover up for her)
Yep 😂
@Donovan Davis ugghh of course
AND a fan of Yoko Ono lol... gimme a break
Yep!
It saddens me to see people "idolize" a musician like Kurt Cobain. He twice overdosed on heroin, and then shot himself in the head with a shotgun. Sadly, he should have been thinking of his daughter before he selfishly pulled that trigger. Yes, he wrote a few good songs, but there were many other good artists in the 90's besides him. You think Taylor Hawkins would have known better, eh ?
Kurt would be freaked with all these books written about him .
Thanks for seeing that.
Kurt would appreciate someone recognizing his genius.
@curragh 42 Too late now. I've been a Nirvana fan since 1991 & at this point in time, I just accept some things that come out on Nirvana. If it let's me know more about Kurt's personality, I'm all for it. Can't change what's already gonna happen anyway, so no sense in arguing.
@curragh 42 agree
curragh 42 I love that you’re an authority on what a man who shot himself in the head would and wouldn’t want being said. Stfu
I don't know why people are making such a big deal of this. Of course Kurt wanted to be successful, but not in the way most people think. He he wanted to do great music and art and have recognition for it and be able to make a living, meeting great artists... well, basically just have his talent recognized. But he wasn't interested with everything that was involved with being famous. I mean, the public persona and everything.
Aurora Fiona
Great comment!
He liked being famous. He’s goal was to be the biggest and best band in the world. Unfortunately that didn’t cure his depression. He was always looking for something.
Glad you knew him personally
@@daniellesve5595 this doesn't require to know someone personnally
@@auroraborealis6398 yeah it does , 🤦♂️😂
The Clash weren't the only punk band that had done SNL by that point, I know Fear did SNL in the early 80s, there might have been more.
Jason Allen Lee Ving - madman lol I'm not even a huge punk fan. Just a fan of quality music... still, I know more than this imbecile interviewer.
"I was talking to Courtney about the book.." She said Kurt was just as ambitious as her?Kurt slogged his guts out,lived in poverty and toured for years to get where he was..Courtney destroyed everyone in her path on her way to fame and got knocked up to a rock star within weeks of meeting him. The only thing those two had in common were a kid and heroin.
They were both gay
You don't know Courtney's story.....
@@endezeichengrimm I know enough to know she's a malignant narcissist/sociopath.
layne staley was on another level i believe it was basicly i can do my thing but yeah that guy can really sing
I, my, and me are said over 100 times!!! I met, I heard, I knew that, no question I, I was, I thought, I think, I talked,.....
21:00 Bingo...this is thing that gets misremembered by most people. Pearl Jam was actually a more commercially successful band than Nirvana before Cobain died. By the time 1993 rolled around In Utero actually was not a huge album when it came out(it debuted well but fell off the charts quick)... Pearl Jam's Vs which came out a few weeks later was a massive success so Pearl Jam had 2 mega albums in a row whereas Nirvana had 1. It wasn't until Cobain's suicide that Nirvana obtained this next level success and all of their albums picked up a lot of sales after he died. Prior to Kurt's death Nevermind sold 5 million albums and In Utero sold 1 million. Pearl Jam on the other hand sold 6 million copies of Ten and 5 million copies of Vs. I'm only bringing this up because this part of the history gets confused as everyone thinks Nirvana was the biggest band during the grunge wave because of the entire "knocked Michael Jackson off the charts" which is an amazing thing but it's a false narrative if you try and measure who was actually bigger band and I'm a bigger Nirvana fan than Pearl Jam. Facts should be accurate. Remember in the fall of 1993 it was Eddie Vedder on the cover of Time Magazine...thats how big Pearl Jam's Vs was at the time but when Kurt died 6 months later he became the clear voice the generation. content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19931025,00.html
Yes, I always mention this fact myself, thanks for bringing that up. People always think Nirvana was gigantenormous when Kurt died - they weren't. Actually, their popularity was coasting a bit with "In Utero", even if they were still, of course, successful. Nirvana hit big with "Nevermind" but didn't tour the US with it. In the meantime, Pearl Jam was everywhere and Nirvana kind of lost momentum (which is probably, to an extent, what they wanted, even if Kurt was also paranoid about being broke again). It's not surprising in that, in my opinion, "Ten" is a very typical album of 70s classic rock in a way done in 1991 - it could appeal to a lot of people. I think "Nevermind" was actually more extreme than "Ten".
The Pumpkins' "Siamese Dream" , that came out around the same time as "In Utero" and "Vs" was also a big seller in the US than "In Utero" at the time.
That said, it's a US perspective. I'm french and Nirvana was the biggest band of the bunch in France when Kurt was alive, hands down. Pearl Jam only got to play a club in Paris when they toured for "Ten" - Nirvana played a 7000 seats venue, and they played well attended venues for the In Utero tour as well. Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden all played clubs in Paris when Nirvana was around. Actually, Soundgarden were playing a 1500 capacity parisian club when they were told that Kurt was dead. These bands enjoyed much more success locally after Kurt's death (as a new generation of teens got into Nirvana and "grunge"/alternative music). Of course, Soundgarden had opened for Guns n' Roses in Paris in 92 - but as I was saying, they were just opening up and most people there didn't know them yet! So, Nirvana was the only band of its kind that was big in France at the time - and of course it only grew post April 1994.
Don't forget that Nirvana was freaked out by the level of fame they achieved, and were purposely putting out a record that was more abrasive and "challenging" in order to be true to themselves and what they were all about. With all the pressure to make a Nevermind II, they decided to record with Albini and release songs like "Tourettes" and "Scentless Apprentice." No disrespect to PJ btw. Happy they're still doing it.
Of course! "In Utero" was a conscious move...Even "Incesticide" was also a low-key release that kept the audience fed as there was no new album recorded by late 92, but also a statement of "this is what we were/are" with more extreme tracks like "Beeswax" or "Hairspray Queen". It didn't sell much but it was out there, and a great compilation period!
No disrespect to PJ at all, I like them a lot!
I feel like that was the direction they wanted to go though. In 92, I believe Kurt said the new record was gonna lose a ton of fans.
@Mike S. "Two years after Nevermind had changed the rock-and-roll world, the ultimate establishment magazine, Time, was belatedly working on a cover story about the "new" wave of popular, punk-influenced rock and roll. Kurt didn't want to do an interview, and I vaguely remember encouraging him not to. The last thing I wanted was for him to feel he was being pushed into something mainstream he didn't like, and as a practical matter Time covers had been a mixed blessing to rock artists over the years. However, I later learned that Kurt had second thoughts about having blown it off."
-from Danny Goldberg's book Serving the Servant: Remembering Kurt Cobain. Page 232, Chapter 13.
I smoked weed all through high school with Kurt. He was my boy
True?
Area 51 Air Patrol U.S. Marine Corps lies
Sure, me too with Elvis, Einstein, Michael Jackson and the pope.
Good times
@@patrickaraujo7360 Yeah I remember seing you while visiting Elvis myself! What an era
;-)
So did i .... And im 33!! And live in the UK ... And never been abroad 🇬🇧
how has this guy not seen the making of nevermind doc...it's one of the best docs on the band you could watch if you're a fan
True. Way too short tho lol
Seriously. I thought the same exact thing, what a phony.
Great Interview but The Replacements played SNL also. So it just wasn't the clash representing punk.
And FEAR
And Elvis Costello
Fuck tth Clash
Courtney Love hired a guy named Richard Allen Wrench (stage name) to kill Kurt. Courtney had herself arrested to clear her name but after being released and finding out nobody found the body she hired a technician to install a security system in the place Kurt's body was. The same man killed El Duce, a guy who was offered $50,000 to kill Kurt but turned it down. Courtneys a murdering psychopath no talent junkie. The problem with the case was it was deemed a suicide by the police who first arrived and not by the proper homicide unit which disturbed the scene; so an investigtion will never be re-opened. He probably wouldve quit music and pursued art/painting in some way, who knows, but he loved his daughter and being a Dad, he didn't kill himself. Period.
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Agreed!
I find it funny, not in a ha ha way, that his wife thinks there was foul play. She is actually recorded thinking this. Now I am thinking out loud. I wonder is Mr Goldberg had any idea what would befall Kurt.
He was way before his time....Brilliant !
No such thing. He was right on time. Nobody can be ahead of their time.
Kurt was always the servant serving his fans...
SomeKinda DruidDude
Lovely comment!
RIP KURT LAYNE CHRIS WOOD crazy even to think
OGGOAT_ _ weiland?...
Just a matter of time untill Allen Wrench strikes again. Eddie Veder better watch out.
Captain Gene ... he’s taking Seattle scene. Weiland and Shannon were not from that scene at all
Hunter Johnson no... he’s talking the Seattle scene
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hey was competitive with Eddie Vedder? you mean layne staley he even is quoted saying that layne was basicly on a nother never and there's a guy chris cornell
Who was quoted? Kurt? I never read anything said by him about Layne. I know he made a joke about shooting cocaine with them all night to Nardwuar but never about Layne himself.
Kurt is so bold, brave and never afraid to express his blunt ideas which took his life.
Fear was the first punk band on SNL
What a genius Kurt was !!!
agree on that, ahead of his time
HAHA, As big as The Pixies - when you are a garage band a Radio Band is Big Time 😂
Is the guy asking questions John Kramer? (Jigsaw) just wondering
Either do your homework or get someone else to and use their questions.
0:55 did the dj just clear his throat? great radio mic technique
your wife has some incredible information regarding his death and I noticed that you forgot to mention that...
@Ian Curtis Jewish hubris. It's unlike anything.
@@enkiea8322 His shit has nothing with to do with him being Jewish. Shut the fuck up.
@Ian Curtis Courtney is doing everything and I mean EVERYTHING she can to really nail in the suicide theory because a sequel to "Soaked In Bleach" is in the making.
@Ian Curtis you're right that Tom did say that there were things he was saving for when the case is reopened, but he also said at a different time, that there wasn't enough time to fit all the evidence into one movie, so they tried to just get out the most important information. There's so much more information though, you can tell by reading cobaincase.com that so much had been left out, but it's because there wasn't enough room. I think about the facts that were left out of the first movie, and really look forward to the second one!! I don't know if I'd commit to the case never being reopened, but I understand your thoughts on that because I've thought it too, and that might be the case sadly, but did you happen to take a look at the thousands upon thousands of people that left hate comments on Courtney's page after "SIB" came out?? She had to go in and block so many people, it took her weeks to do it!!! That and removing the comments. From what I saw at that time, we were a lot closer than what I'd thought we'd be!! Maybe this next movie will not only shed more light on more things surrounding the case, but as a result, get more public outcry for the case to reopen. The thing is to never give up!! Plus I think about the law of attraction and visualize the day she's locked up, and this new movie being the catalyst for that. It could happen!!
If seems like there’s a cover up that’s bigger than Courtney covering something up. It seems like the police are really working against it, even though I’m reality it should be taken seriously.
Great interview
HE DID NOT KILL HIMSELF
yes he did
@@califtomNo he didn't. Take the time to do a little bit of research & digging, and you'll find that it isn't even a matter of opinion. If your mind can comprehend functioning for something like that
@@theyoyoyo7833 yes he did. cite the source for your research and "digging". you have an authentic note and a victim with a history of depression. Kurt very clearly ended his own life.
@@theyoyoyo7833 I agree its not a matter of opinion. Kurt unquestionably took his own life. That's what every shred of physical evidence in this case says.
Truly a most excellent interview! Just caught up with this. Regrettably missed the #Rizzoli signing in New York last Friday! hey everybody, don't forget, #RECORDSTOREDAY is this Saturday April 13th!!!
Fear did SNL!!! It’s the best performance ever
New York's alright
….after watching Get Back, Yoko was a very respectful person and didn’t hurt anything….I wish Kurt had seen Get Back, the perception of Yoko has changed.
He doesnt talk about his wife Rosemary Carroll? She was kurt and courtneys lawyer and had evidence he was murdered. She is also recorded on tape saying he was killed.
Caidema Official of course they’re not gonna mention that. He’s obviously still friends with her. They don’t care. As Steve Albini said “Everyone around Nirvana Inc., except for the band members themselves, are complete pieces of shit.”
Get help for your mental illness
@@colin72 its on tape you dope. You can actually hear her say it.
Crazy. Didn't realize he was married to Rosemary. All these cunts still making money off of Kurt.
The Replacements performed on SNL in 1986-- Goldberg said that the Clash was the only other "punk" band on SNL up to that point
That guy has a face made for radio......
😂😂
i have a 1993 Kurt Cobain New York Colosseum poster in my room. Rest In Peace
Opportunist..... Kurt would've been irritated af! But I'm sure taking the angle of his work instead of his downfall will undoubtedly sell none the less.
Danny's book is a nice homage, one could argue it's unnecessary, but it compliments Kurt's legacy. By this point in time, 25 years later, you learn to accept these kinds of things.
@@dianarchy23 sure, like I said it's a good angle so it will sell, and if it had come from someone who was actually close to him at one point in time it would even mean something. Not from this idiot though, and I may be used to seeing ugly people capitalize on ugly things but I am and always will be one stubborn son of a bitch and I would never support such a venture.
@@yjjeeper1 You only know what you've read in other accounts. Why don't you read this one & then form an opinion? Danny doesn't shy away from bringing up points in time where he was looked at as being slimey. He has no hidden agenda, Kurt & Danny's relationship was obviously always based in business (welcome to the real world), but Kurt & Danny had a closer relationship than most manager/musicians go, according to Danny's book.
@@dianarchy23 while I will agree that one of the biggest sins in life is hiding yourself from knowledge or deliberate ignorance, I also agree that your opinions come from what you feed yourself intellectually so I see no benefit in getting a personal opinion from someone who has only a profit agenda and a business perspective to offer. He knows this, that's why he's pushing the so called personal relationship aspect, I'm sure he'll tell you they'd jerk each other off if it would sell 10,000 more copies. But by all means bro, fill your tank with whatever suits you, I'm just a random fan on yt but that's my two cents on this dip shit.
@@yjjeeper1 Alright, then, "bro". Your mind is closed & you think you're right about Danny being a vampire, so you might wanna exit this particular RUclips video as it seems to just be pissing you off.
Its all about catchy music that is what makes any band stand out above the rest
SomeKinda DruidDude
And don’t forget timing; both Nirvana and The Beatles had great music, but they also had excellent timing for when they first struck in the mainstream.
Comparing Nirvana to Smashing Dumpkins and Green Day? Really?? A radio host doesn't know his 90's music chronologically??? Come on, now...
rocknrollboise yeah should of compared them to no doubt
@@JC-og8nf No doubt, LOL
I know right? That's fucking insulting. Everyone knows Pumpkins are way better. And I'll take early Green Day over Nirvana any day
@@rocknrollboise #LMFAO
@@aplaguedoctor406 #Pumpkinsuck #GreenDay will never be #Nirvana or even the #RAMONES.
Kurts music will never die ever
Jerry Springer?
Hes very very jewish looking lol
Best Buy has some very reasonably priced microphones that sort of look like that going on now.
There was this rant from Courtney online telling of a funeral company that abused Kurt’s body. Apparently funeral home employees danced with his corpse and carved the word “fag” into his skin. Very disturbing. It was like a 1720 word rant from an obvious messed up Courtney. Did any of you hear of this?
i did, when his mom found it was just sad to read
wow, really?
Nirvanas music is so raw and powerful. I'll listen to Kurts music until the day i die.
Most of this info I've known about for years so i don't see myself buying this book unless its at a discount. Still neat to hear new tid bits about the band.
All those Courtney haters are heavily misinformed fans or just mind-atrophied guys without critical thinking. Most probably patriarchy guys that blame woman for random shit or Ancient Aliens conspiracy fans. By 1994 Kurt was worn out, depressed, heavily addicted, damaged by the coma and pretty overwhelmed by his overall circumstances, so he killed himself and taked all his beautiful talent from us. Courtney and Kurt's inner circle are victims of a pretty sad situation and don't deserve any bashing.
LLLOOOLL
Cortney is a horrible person. She’s wanted to hook up with a big rockstar that would boost her career. Shes an oportunistic predator. She would do anything for famę and money and would do everything necesary to destroy everyone she persuea as enemies. She was in the game for fame and mony not art. Feminists shouldn’t defend Cortney. Defending her is similar to defending OJ Simpson.
@@orestmakar8562 She's not, she had her own career, she was pretty ambitious as an artist, not a groupie. She actually didn't focus enough in her music between 91 to 94 because of the crazy big Nirvana success. No one knew how HUGE Nirvana was going to be when she and Kurt started their relationship. All that black widow shit it's based not on facts, but on rumours made by pretty unreliable people, like her father, an stupid acid head, 'El Duce' and other jealous unsucessful artists. I'm not even a CL fan personally. Here are the facts: she was an ambitious, competent artist, also, a junkie, a damaged person, and pretty toxic by the means of a relationship, as so was Kurt. We are no one to judge, they loved each other, they tried their bests, but things went out of control and Kurt just went lost. That's not Courtneys fault.
@@Daniel-ec8fj They're all misogynistic, mindless sheep, who are the exact type of people Kurt Cobain hated. Ironic, isn't it?
The laughing hyenas on touch and go were the first to use bitch vig, and heard Kurt liked the sound so much
Danny had no interest in managing HOLE. Courtney MADE KURT tell him that if he didn't manage HOLE AS WELL Nirvana would find a new manager.
16:50 - what his granny said?
It's not too often someone gets the upper hand when dealing with the devil, but Danny sure did.
so did David Geffen,cody.
It would of been better for Kurt if Geffen gave Kurt attention like he did Laura Nyro.
How has Goldberg not seen the video of Vig walking through nevermind or has seen the interview of Kurt himself saying Ghrol was better than John Bonham. What research was done? I think its awesome that he was who he was but to write a book and have critical, well known interviews missing yields a null product.
@It's in the book Keep looking. Its most certainly out there grasshopper. Kurt actually anunciates his name properly(Bon-Ham) and everything.
@It's in the book ruclips.net/video/H2SXrDZFqmo/видео.html
Here you go, took me 3 minutes to find.
ruclips.net/video/KRK6c7uXvJE/видео.html
Here is the interview he was asked about but never seen or heard of??
Annd I was trolled. Prob by a 12 year old pisspot. Internet 1
Holy shit, before hitting "play", I thought "What the hell does Jerry Springer have to do with this?" 🤔
lol Anyway, good interview! 👍🏻
Karl E Paul it’s springers final thoughts
I don't understand how some people call recording Nevermind "selling out" - it was by far Cobain's best album, best songwriting, and the production is obviously sonically better. Catchier, yes - but compromised, no. Unless you call adopting a more radio-friendly sound an all-through-compromise.
Bleach was actually incredible. I got Bleach in 1989 and absolutely loved it. I was always a thrash metal fan, but Nirvana was excellent.
he and this interview sounds, of if someone said to him : Do what you like - for Kurt, talk good about him, that's the vehicle, tell other stuff whatever, but either way do your actual job: make sure you help saving Courtney Love's reputation. Don't tell anyone that the official suicide version by evidence is wrong and don't tell anyone Kurt ordered his Attorney in March 94 to file the divorce of the marriage. Do your Job. Talk about Courtney and repair her image, That's what you are here for.
NAILED IT
Bro, I’m sorry, Kurt killed himself and it’s sad.
@@ColdShatters Jesus Christ are you with Universal Music Group or Gold Mountain Entertainment or something the guy was fuckin murdered its like the most obvious murder in rock history
@@kungpao-wp2sq I went to Aberdeen and everyone there says yeah it's common knowledge she had him killed. We all know it. The whole town the whole state. We all know over here. I was like interesting. She had a story kurt used to always have flies around him. He passed out on a friends yard all drunk. Younger cobain of course. But she said without a doubt. There is no theory in seattle. The truth is what it is and its fucked
@@kungpao-wp2sq a lot of people here are. For sure. To continue the narrative
Kurt did not kill himself. I didn't get why he had to go outta his way to say that in public until he revealed later that he's kinda friends with Courtney. At least biz relationships.
He was murdered by who we may never know but he definitely was murdered
@@josephbowles4995 Someone paid by Courtney Love.. No doubt. This guy is nothing but another asshole on Courtney's payroll, who is exploiting and, of course, profiting from a murder victim.
he's rosemary carroll's husband
@@josephbowles4995 he was not murdered Kurt committed suicide. Deal with it
Yes he did kill himself.
"The first ten years after his death I had money, the last ten years or so I've been kinda strapped for cash so you know."
lmao
18:17 wrong
Kurt really got to hanging out with a really bad crowd and that's how it all happened wished no one would have ever introduced heroin to kurt thanks to the assholes who did we lost a great guy with endless talent. Music industry would have been more advanced now than what it is if kurt were still here. Teen spirit was well advance for its time he was a music genius
Everyone has to make their own decisions, someone can offer you heroin but you are a person of free will, you can always say no
Great interview.
Danny's wife said Courtney was practicing Kurts handwriting -who shut her up ?
Courtney
Mhmmm
Do you guys hear yourselves? Who bought the fucking gun?
@@michaellawrence5387 You're responses are terrible. I swear...it's like I know on which comment where there will be a stupid reply and it's always from you. Always.
@@michaellawrence5387 His friend Dylan bought it....
Very nice. Thanks for sharing.