"Some roads you shouldn't go down. Because maps used to say there be dragons here, now they don't. But that don't mean the dragons aren't there..." - Lorne Malvo
@@waynejohnson1786 I agree. The tension and eerie nature of Malvo was something else in that scene. I mean, here you have an armed cop speaking with a skinny man with a goofy bowl cut, and he scares the armed policeman into letting him go with only a few sentences.
I think he's a demon or possibly the devil himself. The wolf comparison really doesn't hold up. Wolves aren't satiated by the pain and suffering of others around them. The Bible describes satan as a being who comes to "Kill, Steal, and Destroy". The entity in Fargo fits the biblical description of Lucifer perfectly. He even says "Thats the best apple pie I've had since the Garden of Eden". Malvo is from hell.
There is a discernible difference between cruelty;malice and total indifference. It’s like how having a ‘black heart’ means an evil one, well.. malvo just has no heart. It isn’t rotten- it was never there.
I was always faszinated about the fact that Malvo was helping lester multiple times without wanting anything in return or harming him, i think he had some kind of sympathy towards him.
@@konighartzderiv.4898 Lester was his polar opposite- ‘meek and mild mannered’ when they met. I think he took some joy in the idea being the bad influence Lester needed to set him on the path to becoming a sort of monster himself.
"Lester, is this what you want?" One of the coldest moments from any villain I've seen. Billy Bob Thornton did a superb job as Lorne Malvo and he's still the best antagonist of the series by a mile. I wonder how he would measure up in a fight against Vincent from Collateral?
I find the killing of the Fargo mafia bit over the top. He alone vs 20+? This felt like bad writing to me.. took away something from his overall great character. hanzee from season 2 is an amazing written character
@@dirkdiggler5581 To be fair they weren't expecting someone to just walk brazenly into their office with a submachine gun. They probably mostly got by on their fearsome reputation.
@@dirkdiggler5581hanzee's ending absolutely fucking annihilated every piece of phenomenal writing they made for almost all of his scenes. I like him a lot, but Milligan, Varga, and Malvo are just more thought provoking in my opinion
I never realized there were so many animalistic references with Lorne Malvo. It's fascinating to consider. As you touched on in the video, I recall coming across a theory that Lorne is actually a demon. There's even a scene where a Jewish man approaches him for staking out Gus's apartment, and he even refers to Lorne as a demon after their brief conversation. And I recall a comment (which I'm only paraphrasing, as it's been so long) pointing out how it's common in folklore that knowing a demon's true name is a way of defeating them, or at least getting their attention. And right before the "shades of green" riddle, Gus called Lorne out by name, which broke his facade immediately. Those details, and the way he barely flinched and just stared for a moment after being shot, was just so creepy and fascinating in a way that makes him seem like something other than human. (I forgot to mention the couple scenes where he just seems to disappear from a room too.)
@@Burialofagod oh no doubt he’s a police officer; he’s always in his police uniform and his patrole car. But the show communicates many times that he’s been relegated to the town dog catcher because of repeated incompetence or cowardice (like refusing to make a move to arrest Lorne or shooting Molly as he gave commands to halt). I think in the language of the show he’s little more than just a dog catcher by the time we catch up with him
I'd never noticed that one before, that's awesome. Here's one, what does Lorne primarily wear throughout the course of the series? What fabric? Wool. He's greets Lester and most every other character he meets as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
To me, the creepiest moment with the elevator massacre was the little eye twitch that you mentioned. What was creepy was that the facial gesture wasn’t a tic of frustration but instead seemed to be Lorne winking to Lester, like, “Hey, check this out.”
"Your problem is that you've spent your whole life thinking there are rules" All you need to know about the best villain in Fargo. His name is Even a play on the word "Malevolent"!
I think being "raised by wolves" is just a narrative metaphor. It isn't literally true, but a quick metaphorical approximation of his background. The great thing of any great villain is we have no idea where most of them came from, but we can imagine the basic details just by their actions.
Yeah I doubt the guy was meant to have actually been raised by animals. It's more the fact that he grew up only knowing backstabbers, rapists, drug addicts, killers and the like.(The "wolves" of society.)
@@legoshi4400 Yeah. I don't think Malvo _has_ a backstory, and he just likes talking like that. All of Fargo's main villains have some element of mystery about them, and are pure evil, but that Malvo is outright supernatural is made explicit in Malvo's case really early on, although it's easy to miss. He goes down into Lester's cellar before the second group of cops arrive, and he isn't there when they investigate the scene. So he vanished. He also manages to kill a ridiculous number of people in a criminal gang without getting a scratch. After that, he makes the Garden of Eden remark and we get the bloody wings imagery, but the Vile Eye also missed something else. He only drops the pastor act to Gus at the police station when Gus says his name. In demonology, if you say a demon's name, they have to respond.
"Of course nobody hangs the sad pictures am I right? A mom crying. A dad looking angry. A kid with a black eye." Just enough to make you wonder if it's a peak into his origins, or just more commentary on the human condition. Masterful.
It was an absolutely phenomenal performance. Love the way he could go from being sinister, to charming, to suave, and then become a helpless-looking nerd in the interrogation room before going straight back to being a scheming killer.
He’s probably worse than Chigur, Chigur does kill random people who aren’t his targets who may just be at wrong place wrong time , he just kills this epeople , Lorne on other hand torments and plays psychological games and actually ruins peoples lives for the devilish enjoyment
@@dennisrozman6362 That wasn't for his own enjoyment, it was because, from Chigur's point of view the attendant had committed an offense by prying into his life. There are ways to remain safe with Chigur, the manager of the trailer park ensures her safety by not showing weakness. With Malvo there is no way to make yourself safe, the very idea that you think you are safe would be plenty for Malvo to use as a reason to attack. Chigur is lawful-evil, Malvo is chaotic-evil.
Not really doesn’t the Chigur killing Brolin’s character’s wife show how much of a load of shit Chigur’s whole “I am just a servant of fate” is? He won and had no reason to go out and find that woman who had barely anything to do with anything. He enjoys killing people as Malvo Malvo is just honest about it.
@arturzinurov4781 he killed his wife because that's what he promised him during his phonecall to moss, he promised that if he didn't get the money, she would get punished, so he was still following his own rules
@@sebastiendiaz-corona7966 yeah what an honorable man of his word, dude there was no point the guy he had beef was dead. Idk if it’s because we see so much violence in media that it’s not even registering sometimes but dude imagine that Chiqur was a real person and you didn’t have a tv screen protecting you from him are you seriously going to tell me Chiqur is just a man of his word then? He is a maniac who loves killing people otherwise he wouldn’t have a bar to kill somebody to be “they ask me questions or they are in the vicinity of his target”.
"Some roads you shouldn't go down. Because maps used to say there be dragons here, now they don't. But that don't mean the dragons aren't there..." BEST villain in fargo!Billy throrton was amazing in the role! Loved his performance been waiting for this one!
The conversation Lorne has with Lou at his diner contradicts the feral child theory but does suggest he had an abusive upbringing. What he said to Stavros was likely just an allegory for how he felt about his place in the world.
Not necessarily! If you stuck around for my reading of Marcos Rodriguez Pentoja's story, he was raised by humans until he was seven, and then abandoned to the wilderness for eleven years to be raised amongst wolves. I'm theorizing here that Lorne had a similar upbringing to Marcos, so both the abuse and the feral upbringing could be true.
@@dirkdiggler5581 i prefer season 3 over season 2, VM Varga is just such an interesting character, season 2 didnt have any characters that compare in my opinion
I find it interesting you compared him to Chigurh from No Country For Old Men, because I consider the two of them very different characters. Forgive the following mini essay, but your videos always inspire my inner critic. In the McCarthy novel, Chigurh is a highly symbolic and almost phantom-like character motivated solely by a supernatural drive to act as the literal hand of Fate; less of a man and more of a natural disaster in the shape of a man, bringing the consequences of human beings’ actions to them. The Cohen Brothers made an ingenious creative decision in the movie adaptation, where such symbolism would inevitably be lost without the prose to explain his existence, and made him a real person who merely _believed_ he was the chosen agent of Fate, but was ultimately a mortal and delusional man. Albeit a hard boiled psychopath and a clinically insane one at that, completely detached from reality apart from where his all-consuming delusions of grandeur met the real world. Chigurh is associated with cars because he considers himself to be an emotionally vacant vehicle of death, as well. He feels nothing other than a singular, highly focused drive to enact what he crazily believes fate has in store for others, something which only he is aware of and for which he was put on earth to make real. By comparison, Lorne Malvo is much more present, visceral, and grounded. While Chigurh is relentless, unstoppable, and fatalistic, Malvo is much more…human. _Almost_ empathetic, at least by comparison to the ice cold vacuum that is Chigurh. Malvo is sadistic and playful and comprised of the same meat and bones everyone else is, and is well aware of this. He is undeniably different from everyone else mentally, but is vulnerable to the same emotional foibles us normal people are, but expressed in much more predatory ways. If there’s one emotion that I associate with Lorne Malvo, it’s glee. Something which Chigurh seems neurologically incapable of experiencing. Joy, lust, satisfaction, hunger, desire, the capacity and willingness to embody false warmth and get close to people in deeply personal ways, stick his fingers in their wounds and twist them just to see how they flinch. Chigurh is like a gun; he only has one purpose, which is to definitively end life, or use his potential power to change the course of things. And once his goal is met, he returns to being a cold, hard, yet dormant weapon. He aims carefully and seeks to do the job in a single shot. Lorne Malvo on the other hand, is like a knife. Something also very dangerous and lethal, but which is seen first as something familiar and banal, and a weapon second. Lorne Malvo lives inside your father’s old pocketknife sheath, or in the butcher’s block on your sunny kitchen counter. He’s not dangerous until he is, and when he is it’s both messy and intimate.
I'm so happy to see this one! Lorne Malvo is one of the best characters in recent memory - let alone one of the best villains. Billy Bob Thornton's portrayal is a masterclass. Can't wait to see your analysis! Edit: I think it's an interesting analysis/take. I'll admit I can't really get onboard with the idea that Malvo was literally raised by wolves. That seems really, really silly to me. I think he's simply a "hollow" man and an agent for death, destruction and chaos. Nobody leaves an interaction with him better for the experience. A truly fascinating and brilliantly written/acted character.
“A Man like that….he be not even a man” - Molly Solverson “He’s a really dangerous-looking fella and had these really scary eyes” - Gus Grimly “You have black eyes, you’re trouble” and “Se’īrīm” (Demon in Hebrew) - Ari Ziskind
It might feel obvious and i know it wouldnt be the next episode but after this awesome video i really would love to see you cover VM Varga next. He gave me the heeby jeebies to th same degree Malvo did for different reasons.
Malvo being able to easily slip into the role of a dentist so convincingly that he fools a professional like Burt makes me think he actually does have experience there. Being a dentist is a very good way to get away with instilling fear in and causing pain to people, though it probably didn't satiate Malvo's desires enough for him to continue pursuing dentistry.
Don't know if you remember vile but awhile back, I recommended you cover Lorne along with Pietre Carvel from utopia. I'm so glad you finally made a video on Lorne as he is my favorite antagonist of all time.
Some suggestions: - Analyzing Evil: Park Yeon-jin from The Glory - Analyzing Evil: Thor " The Swede" Gundersen from Hell on Wheels - Analyzing Evil: Frank from Once Upon a Time in the West
I’d LOVE to see ‘The Swede’ from Hell on Wheels! I wondered how his time in Andersonville prison could’ve and would’ve affected him. I thought it was a great, rich, textured, layered series and is one of my favorites! Brava! Love & Light from Miami Shores🦚 Stay safe mate✌🏼🌎
A video analysing the world of Blood Meridian would be interesting. I know you did a video on Judge Holden but the rest of the world contains so much evil that it would warrant its own episode.
On the topic of the Coen brothers, you should consider doing video on private detective Loren visser from blood simple! Might be the second scariest Coen brothers villain Love the vid as always :)
I think Catherine Trammell would be a nice addition to and overall amazing list, i would like to see too a take on Archibald Cunningham from Rob Roy and "And Then There Were None" characters Great video as usual
He's definitely a demon or the devil. He even makes reference to being in the "Garden of Eden" as he's finishing a slice of apple pie. He fits all the character traits of the Biblical satan.
Yess!!! Fargo is one of my favorite shows ever made, I'm so happy to see this, been waiting for a video about Malvo for a while. I hope you continue to cover the rest of the show.
Day two asking for Raphael Montero from Mask of Zorro. Stole an enemy’s child, put the hero in prison, accidentally killed hero’s wife, enslaved a population of people, attempted to burn slaves alive.
Lorne and the Judge would probably have a good chat due to them having similar outlets on life, and Anton would be wondering why the hell is he there in the first place
I can’t wait to see this with Harley Quinn. Love this channel! You are a complete whiz with your words, and I expand my vocabulary when I listen to you. Keep up the fantastic content!
the coen brothers truly have an affinity for crafting together mysterious, psychopathic, yet alluring antagonists. on that note, you should cover the rest of the notable antagonists from the fargo series, or not even so much antagonists but even the morally ambiguous characters in the following seasons.
4:55 it’s not that our ancestors needed to differentiate predators, but to differentiate prey. Because - we - are the predators. We are the conduit of destruction and chaos, I believe that was the message he was trying to inspire in Lester and Gus. There are no rules, no castes, but what you can take and defend.
I only recently found your channel and these videos are fantastic. Some of your subjects are familiar to me and even for the ones that aren't, they are still fascinating. So well explained with nice editing that really drives home your analysis.
Thank you for now covering Lorne Malvo, can not wait to see the other characters like Mike Milligan, the Gerhardt family, VM Varga, Roy Tillman, Lorraine Lyon, the Fadda brothers, Oraetta Mayflower, etc
I absolutely love what you do my man. I find hanzee from season 2 of fargo to be very fascinating as well, hopefully you analyze him. Keep up your great work, scholar of villainy
Been waiting for this one. The cautious/reckless Lorne. Hope Lester makes the list for his subdued unintended using others villainy. As well as the vampiric complex financial crime cooking offputting V M Varga from the third season.
I almost died in Reno Nevada when I was 13. I was visiting my great aunt during the summer and had borrowed a bike and took off on some bike trail. Ended up getting lost but found my way back to the highway leading back into Reno. I didn't tell my great aunt what actually happened but I was so dehydrated I kept throwing up anything I drank all night. Reno is no joke.
Great Video! Malvo was one of those perfect villains, I was genuinely scared for every character he interacted with. Hopefully we'll see a video for Lester soon as well. Watching him become a villain as the show progressed was pretty great
For whatever I didn't finish Fargo But this character left an impression on me in the few episodes i watched I remember the scene where the cop pulls him over
Lorne definitely strikes me as someone whose been betrayed or bullied before. That one scene where he is genuinely disappointed that Lester didn't help him says a lot. Anton Chigurh strikes me as an embittered force of nature who simply needs an objective to keep himself occupied. Lorne has this distinct bitterness to him whenever he's not on the prowl as if every second he's not pursuing an objective it's painful. I think someone Lorne deeply trusted or even loved someone or several people like his (hypothetical) family broke him, or perhaps he witnessed the trust between people dissolve like acid.
What do you get when you cross Anton Chigurh and Tyler Durden? You get Lorne Malvo While I like the wolf angle, I've always read it that Malvo was raised by awful people. I think along the lines of the very real monster Pedro Lopez and his upbringing of constant horror and abuse then being used to justify the disgusting crimes he committed. He sees people as pretending to be above animals and leans into that logic by being the apex predator wherever he goes. One of my favourite villains of all time. He can't be bargained with because he feeds on chaos and pain Would love more Fargo villains mate
Definitely one of the more evil characters you've covered! Also as a suggestion, could you cover Negan at some point from The Walking Dead (show and comic) ?
Lorne was, without a doubt, the most diabolical villain the series FARGO has ever featured. Excellent analysis! Would you do videos on the Marquise de Merteuil (Glenn Close) from Dangerous Liaisons and Sargeant Waters (Adolph Ceasar) from A Soldier's Story?
Lorne Malvo isn't a wolf. That's so funny lol. Lorne Malvo is the personification of evil and nihilistic YOLOs. His dialogue with Lou in the diner I think highlights this. Lou says he'd described what he had seen during the Sioux Falls Case as "animal", but then goes on to say "except animals only kill for food, this was... Sioux Falls". After Malvo eats the apple pie Lou has served him he thanks him and says he hasn't had a pie like that since the garden of Eden whilst also coincidentally avoiding the daughter he had noticed and established via a picture on the wall.
Nice, I was just thinking the other day "Vile Eye should drop a fargo video" a little after me and the missus finished season 5. Lorne lives for the chaos.
-Peyton Flanders: "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle" -Arthur Mitchell: "Dexter" -Henry Evans: "The Good Son" -Mickey & Mallory Knox: "Natural Born Killers"
I’ve been requesting the a characters since I started watching your channel 4 years ago. I knew you’d make this one eventually and I’m glad that day is today
"Either this is just a coincidence, or it's hinting at his origins"- OR ITS SYMBOLISM. Leaping to the conclusion he was raised in a forest by wolves is....an absurd overreach to say with such confidence good lord.
Great vid on Malvo. Season one of Fargo has to my favorite of the series because of Billy Bob Thornton. Could you sometime do one on the walking dead villains? Maybe Governor, Negan?
Hey - I wanted to suggest I thought you might want to try Apollyon from For Honor. It's a medievil fantasy setting and her life is fairly well documented. The lore isn't extensive or anything but I think it'd make due for a video.
I think hanzee Is better. The one thing I hold against Malvo is the Rambo scene where he solos the Cartell.. that’s just super bad writing and takes the tension and being immersed in the story. Totally over the top.
This was just a fantastic analysis. It blew me away. Malvo is my favorite Fargo TV character. When the guy in the white van sold him some stuff and asked Malvo if he could hang out with him and watch what he does. Malvo said something like “you wanna go around with me and watch me shit on people?” So Good. Then I stayed up all night watching more of your videos. I am definitely going to check out 10 Cloverfield Lane. And the Makima video. Just wow man. Great work. You even have Blood Meridian and Salieri on here!!! Count me in. I think a look at Miller’s Crossing would be really cool.
Please do these villains next when you get a chance: 1. Alice Morgan - Luther 2. Joe Goldberg - You 3. Sheriff Roy Tillman - Fargo season 5 4. Sephiroth - Final Fantasy VII 5. Catherine Trammel - Basic Instinct 6. Vecna - Stranger Things 7. Odin - God of War: Ragnorok 8. Oswell Spencer and The Umbrella Corporation - Resident Evil series 9. Edwin Epps - 12 Years a Slave 10. Magneto, Colonel William Stryker, and Apocalypse - X-Men series 11. Baron Zemo and Ultron - MCU 12. The Puppet Master - Ghost in the Shell (1995 version) 13. Andrea Greene - Swarm 14. Marty and Wendy Byrd - Ozark 15. Saruman and Gollum - The Lord of the Rings trilogy 16. Peter Baelish and Cersei Lannister - Game of Thrones 17. Simon Gruber - Die Hard with a Vengeance
I waited a long time for this video, so thanks for finally giving it. The secound season could get it own analysis and Varga from season 3 especially would deserve a take.
Hey Vile for July I have a suggestion of covering the world of Stray as that game was released during that month and it has really deep themes of oppression, corruption, and how the evils of the past can still affect the future.
"Some roads you shouldn't go down. Because maps used to say there be dragons here, now they don't. But that don't mean the dragons aren't there..." - Lorne Malvo
Yup, that was my FAVORITE line of his.
Literally that scene is amazing
One of the best scenes I’ve ever seen in a TV show, not even exaggerating.
@@waynejohnson1786 I agree. The tension and eerie nature of Malvo was something else in that scene. I mean, here you have an armed cop speaking with a skinny man with a goofy bowl cut, and he scares the armed policeman into letting him go with only a few sentences.
@@OneirielTo be fair the cop was kind of a coward at that point in the story.
"No, highly irregular is the time I found a human foot in a toaster oven. This is just odd."
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I always took the wolves as more metaphorical, like he was abandoned, hungry, then taken in by gangs, criminals, etc.
He saw the parallels in his own life, and crafted his entire personality on wolves.
I think he's a demon or possibly the devil himself. The wolf comparison really doesn't hold up. Wolves aren't satiated by the pain and suffering of others around them. The Bible describes satan as a being who comes to "Kill, Steal, and Destroy". The entity in Fargo fits the biblical description of Lucifer perfectly. He even says "Thats the best apple pie I've had since the Garden of Eden". Malvo is from hell.
yeah saying he was raised by wolves is actually wild lmao
@@mattb5858he’s not saying that, at all. try reading
@@rockharddock1711 try watching the video he says he theorizes he was actually raised by wolves lol
Malvo was a straight up malevolent, evil, mischievious demon. The emmissarry of the the devil himself. Billy Bob was great in that role.
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I was literally just thinking this
Reminds me of myself
There is a discernible difference between cruelty;malice and total indifference. It’s like how having a ‘black heart’ means an evil one, well.. malvo just has no heart. It isn’t rotten- it was never there.
“Lester, have you been a bad boy?”.
That's what she said
I heard it was a Hammering 🔨
Bow chicka bow wow!
I was always faszinated about the fact that Malvo was helping lester multiple times without wanting anything in return or harming him, i think he had some kind of sympathy towards him.
@@konighartzderiv.4898 Lester was his polar opposite- ‘meek and mild mannered’ when they met. I think he took some joy in the idea being the bad influence Lester needed to set him on the path to becoming a sort of monster himself.
"Lester, is this what you want?" One of the coldest moments from any villain I've seen. Billy Bob Thornton did a superb job as Lorne Malvo and he's still the best antagonist of the series by a mile.
I wonder how he would measure up in a fight against Vincent from Collateral?
If either got the jump on each-other it would be curtain's for the other.
"See you later, Lester. See you soon."
I find the killing of the Fargo mafia bit over the top. He alone vs 20+? This felt like bad writing to me.. took away something from his overall great character.
hanzee from season 2 is an amazing written character
@@dirkdiggler5581 To be fair they weren't expecting someone to just walk brazenly into their office with a submachine gun. They probably mostly got by on their fearsome reputation.
@@dirkdiggler5581hanzee's ending absolutely fucking annihilated every piece of phenomenal writing they made for almost all of his scenes. I like him a lot, but Milligan, Varga, and Malvo are just more thought provoking in my opinion
I never realized there were so many animalistic references with Lorne Malvo. It's fascinating to consider.
As you touched on in the video, I recall coming across a theory that Lorne is actually a demon. There's even a scene where a Jewish man approaches him for staking out Gus's apartment, and he even refers to Lorne as a demon after their brief conversation. And I recall a comment (which I'm only paraphrasing, as it's been so long) pointing out how it's common in folklore that knowing a demon's true name is a way of defeating them, or at least getting their attention. And right before the "shades of green" riddle, Gus called Lorne out by name, which broke his facade immediately. Those details, and the way he barely flinched and just stared for a moment after being shot, was just so creepy and fascinating in a way that makes him seem like something other than human.
(I forgot to mention the couple scenes where he just seems to disappear from a room too.)
And Gus, first a dog catcher and later a mailman, is hunting him throughout the show. The two occupations that are direct enemies with canines.
@@WanderingChin Bravo Vince
Wow. Fantastic observation
He was never a dog catcher, he would just sub for them from time to time.
He actually says this in the show.
He was a police officer
@@Burialofagod oh no doubt he’s a police officer; he’s always in his police uniform and his patrole car. But the show communicates many times that he’s been relegated to the town dog catcher because of repeated incompetence or cowardice (like refusing to make a move to arrest Lorne or shooting Molly as he gave commands to halt). I think in the language of the show he’s little more than just a dog catcher by the time we catch up with him
I'd never noticed that one before, that's awesome. Here's one, what does Lorne primarily wear throughout the course of the series? What fabric? Wool. He's greets Lester and most every other character he meets as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
To me, the creepiest moment with the elevator massacre was the little eye twitch that you mentioned. What was creepy was that the facial gesture wasn’t a tic of frustration but instead seemed to be Lorne winking to Lester, like, “Hey, check this out.”
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"Your problem is that you've spent your whole life thinking there are rules" All you need to know about the best villain in Fargo. His name is Even a play on the word "Malevolent"!
And his first name is fox
I think being "raised by wolves" is just a narrative metaphor. It isn't literally true, but a quick metaphorical approximation of his background. The great thing of any great villain is we have no idea where most of them came from, but we can imagine the basic details just by their actions.
Yeah I doubt the guy was meant to have actually been raised by animals. It's more the fact that he grew up only knowing backstabbers, rapists, drug addicts, killers and the like.(The "wolves" of society.)
In my mind that too could also be a lie, in my head he’s more like the devil rather than a man raised by wolfs.
@@SouthernRex-1994 I always thought he was ex-military.
@@legoshi4400 Yeah. I don't think Malvo _has_ a backstory, and he just likes talking like that. All of Fargo's main villains have some element of mystery about them, and are pure evil, but that Malvo is outright supernatural is made explicit in Malvo's case really early on, although it's easy to miss. He goes down into Lester's cellar before the second group of cops arrive, and he isn't there when they investigate the scene. So he vanished.
He also manages to kill a ridiculous number of people in a criminal gang without getting a scratch. After that, he makes the Garden of Eden remark and we get the bloody wings imagery, but the Vile Eye also missed something else. He only drops the pastor act to Gus at the police station when Gus says his name. In demonology, if you say a demon's name, they have to respond.
"Of course nobody hangs the sad pictures am I right? A mom crying. A dad looking angry. A kid with a black eye."
Just enough to make you wonder if it's a peak into his origins, or just more commentary on the human condition. Masterful.
The fact that the name “Lorne Malvo” is literally a play on the word “malevolent” makes his character even more interesting
It's called an anagram!
@@cleoh666it’s not an anagram.
It’s also a play on “Rated TV-(MA) for (L)anguage and (V)i(O)lence.”
@cleoh666 there's no "r" in malevolent therefore not an angram
Damn sure is ! Great show.
It was an absolutely phenomenal performance. Love the way he could go from being sinister, to charming, to suave, and then become a helpless-looking nerd in the interrogation room before going straight back to being a scheming killer.
He’s probably worse than Chigur, Chigur does kill random people who aren’t his targets who may just be at wrong place wrong time , he just kills this epeople , Lorne on other hand torments and plays psychological games and actually ruins peoples lives for the devilish enjoyment
What about the guy at the gas station?
@@dennisrozman6362 That wasn't for his own enjoyment, it was because, from Chigur's point of view the attendant had committed an offense by prying into his life. There are ways to remain safe with Chigur, the manager of the trailer park ensures her safety by not showing weakness. With Malvo there is no way to make yourself safe, the very idea that you think you are safe would be plenty for Malvo to use as a reason to attack. Chigur is lawful-evil, Malvo is chaotic-evil.
Not really doesn’t the Chigur killing Brolin’s character’s wife show how much of a load of shit Chigur’s whole “I am just a servant of fate” is? He won and had no reason to go out and find that woman who had barely anything to do with anything. He enjoys killing people as Malvo Malvo is just honest about it.
@arturzinurov4781 he killed his wife because that's what he promised him during his phonecall to moss, he promised that if he didn't get the money, she would get punished, so he was still following his own rules
@@sebastiendiaz-corona7966 yeah what an honorable man of his word, dude there was no point the guy he had beef was dead. Idk if it’s because we see so much violence in media that it’s not even registering sometimes but dude imagine that Chiqur was a real person and you didn’t have a tv screen protecting you from him are you seriously going to tell me Chiqur is just a man of his word then? He is a maniac who loves killing people otherwise he wouldn’t have a bar to kill somebody to be “they ask me questions or they are in the vicinity of his target”.
Finally I’ve loved this character for years
Nearly jumped outta my chair when I saw the thumbnail🤌
"Some roads you shouldn't go down. Because maps used to say there be dragons here, now they don't. But that don't mean the dragons aren't there..." BEST villain in fargo!Billy throrton was amazing in the role! Loved his performance been waiting for this one!
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Why the ai voice though
Everyone making the same comment… What a great community.
The conversation Lorne has with Lou at his diner contradicts the feral child theory but does suggest he had an abusive upbringing. What he said to Stavros was likely just an allegory for how he felt about his place in the world.
Not necessarily! If you stuck around for my reading of Marcos Rodriguez Pentoja's story, he was raised by humans until he was seven, and then abandoned to the wilderness for eleven years to be raised amongst wolves. I'm theorizing here that Lorne had a similar upbringing to Marcos, so both the abuse and the feral upbringing could be true.
Yes! Lorne Malvo is my favourite villain of all time. He’ causes havoc for the sake of chaos, he revels in all the mayhem he causes… With a grin
Fargo is such a series, all season have great characters and stories. I love how every season happens in a different time
Season 1 and 2 is so good I couldn’t finish s3 episode one.. It didn’t catch on somehow
@@dirkdiggler5581 Is not as good as the other 2 but I think is still better than a lot of other series
@@dirkdiggler5581 i prefer season 3 over season 2, VM Varga is just such an interesting character, season 2 didnt have any characters that compare in my opinion
@@angeloz5830 I love Nikki Swango
Yess!! I recently finished Fargo season 1 and this character sends chills in my spine. Great job Billy Bob Thornton.
I find it interesting you compared him to Chigurh from No Country For Old Men, because I consider the two of them very different characters. Forgive the following mini essay, but your videos always inspire my inner critic.
In the McCarthy novel, Chigurh is a highly symbolic and almost phantom-like character motivated solely by a supernatural drive to act as the literal hand of Fate; less of a man and more of a natural disaster in the shape of a man, bringing the consequences of human beings’ actions to them.
The Cohen Brothers made an ingenious creative decision in the movie adaptation, where such symbolism would inevitably be lost without the prose to explain his existence, and made him a real person who merely _believed_ he was the chosen agent of Fate, but was ultimately a mortal and delusional man. Albeit a hard boiled psychopath and a clinically insane one at that, completely detached from reality apart from where his all-consuming delusions of grandeur met the real world. Chigurh is associated with cars because he considers himself to be an emotionally vacant vehicle of death, as well. He feels nothing other than a singular, highly focused drive to enact what he crazily believes fate has in store for others, something which only he is aware of and for which he was put on earth to make real.
By comparison, Lorne Malvo is much more present, visceral, and grounded. While Chigurh is relentless, unstoppable, and fatalistic, Malvo is much more…human. _Almost_ empathetic, at least by comparison to the ice cold vacuum that is Chigurh. Malvo is sadistic and playful and comprised of the same meat and bones everyone else is, and is well aware of this. He is undeniably different from everyone else mentally, but is vulnerable to the same emotional foibles us normal people are, but expressed in much more predatory ways. If there’s one emotion that I associate with Lorne Malvo, it’s glee. Something which Chigurh seems neurologically incapable of experiencing. Joy, lust, satisfaction, hunger, desire, the capacity and willingness to embody false warmth and get close to people in deeply personal ways, stick his fingers in their wounds and twist them just to see how they flinch.
Chigurh is like a gun; he only has one purpose, which is to definitively end life, or use his potential power to change the course of things. And once his goal is met, he returns to being a cold, hard, yet dormant weapon. He aims carefully and seeks to do the job in a single shot.
Lorne Malvo on the other hand, is like a knife. Something also very dangerous and lethal, but which is seen first as something familiar and banal, and a weapon second. Lorne Malvo lives inside your father’s old pocketknife sheath, or in the butcher’s block on your sunny kitchen counter. He’s not dangerous until he is, and when he is it’s both messy and intimate.
Yesss, I 110% agree
damn, fantastic write-up
*He along with Gus Fring, are my all time favorite villains in any genre. They both are excellent puppet masters*
and Lalo Salaminco
"It's a red tide Lester, this life of ours."
I'm so happy to see this one! Lorne Malvo is one of the best characters in recent memory - let alone one of the best villains. Billy Bob Thornton's portrayal is a masterclass. Can't wait to see your analysis!
Edit: I think it's an interesting analysis/take. I'll admit I can't really get onboard with the idea that Malvo was literally raised by wolves. That seems really, really silly to me. I think he's simply a "hollow" man and an agent for death, destruction and chaos. Nobody leaves an interaction with him better for the experience. A truly fascinating and brilliantly written/acted character.
The bigger villain is his barber
his hairstyle is good wdym
Billy Bob chose the hairstyle himself
“A Man like that….he be not even a man”
- Molly Solverson
“He’s a really dangerous-looking fella and had these really scary eyes”
- Gus Grimly
“You have black eyes, you’re trouble” and “Se’īrīm” (Demon in Hebrew)
- Ari Ziskind
It might feel obvious and i know it wouldnt be the next episode but after this awesome video i really would love to see you cover VM Varga next. He gave me the heeby jeebies to th same degree Malvo did for different reasons.
Varga is the modern, civilized banality of evil.
Malvo is primal, animalistic, elemental evil.
@@omarnsimpson908 wonderful wording, totally agree.
Yeah, Varga would be a great video subject. He's downright creepy and a great demonstration of corporate evil.
Malvo being able to easily slip into the role of a dentist so convincingly that he fools a professional like Burt makes me think he actually does have experience there. Being a dentist is a very good way to get away with instilling fear in and causing pain to people, though it probably didn't satiate Malvo's desires enough for him to continue pursuing dentistry.
Analyzing Evil? More like, analyzing a crackpot theory about a villain literally somehow being raised by wolves for 2/3 the video
Unexpected Bob Odenkirk at 23:05 :O I did not remember him being in this show.
Also Fargo was so good oh my god
his character was so dopey and he played it incredibly well, i loved him!!!
1st season is incredible but further seasons are just hard for me to get into. 1st one feels like a genuine continuation to the coen brothers movie.
Don't know if you remember vile but awhile back, I recommended you cover Lorne along with Pietre Carvel from utopia. I'm so glad you finally made a video on Lorne as he is my favorite antagonist of all time.
Some suggestions:
- Analyzing Evil: Park Yeon-jin from The Glory
- Analyzing Evil: Thor " The Swede" Gundersen from Hell on Wheels
- Analyzing Evil: Frank from Once Upon a Time in the West
I’d LOVE to see ‘The Swede’ from Hell on Wheels! I wondered how his time in Andersonville prison could’ve and would’ve affected him.
I thought it was a great, rich, textured, layered series and is one of my favorites!
Brava!
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I've always wanted to see you cover him. He was the reason I got into Fargo and he impacted me long after I finished the show
A video analysing the world of Blood Meridian would be interesting. I know you did a video on Judge Holden but the rest of the world contains so much evil that it would warrant its own episode.
Great episode, fingers crossed for one on VM Varga!
Such a great character.. he literally gives me chills. Great to see your channel grow Vile! Keep up the good work!
Absolutely one of the most amazing channels on this platform. Cheers.
On the topic of the Coen brothers, you should consider doing video on private detective Loren visser from blood simple! Might be the second scariest Coen brothers villain
Love the vid as always :)
I think Catherine Trammell would be a nice addition to and overall amazing list, i would like to see too a take on Archibald Cunningham from Rob Roy and "And Then There Were None" characters
Great video as usual
Given all the supernatural stuff in the show, Lorne being raised by wolves isn’t all that unbelievable.
Yes it is, he even says its unbelievable himself. Saying that the jungle book is ridiculous
@@Burialofagod He said its ridiculous that a wolf would make friends with a bear and panther, not that the book itself is ridiculous
He's definitely a demon or the devil. He even makes reference to being in the "Garden of Eden" as he's finishing a slice of apple pie. He fits all the character traits of the Biblical satan.
Maps used to say, "There be dragons here." Now they don't. But that don't mean the dragons aren't there.
Yess!!! Fargo is one of my favorite shows ever made, I'm so happy to see this, been waiting for a video about Malvo for a while.
I hope you continue to cover the rest of the show.
My second favourite TV psychopath after Villanelle from Killing Eve.
Been waiting for this once for probably close to four years. Super psyched to give it a watch
Day two asking for Raphael Montero from Mask of Zorro. Stole an enemy’s child, put the hero in prison, accidentally killed hero’s wife, enslaved a population of people, attempted to burn slaves alive.
This character alone made the Fargo TV show it's own beast
I would pay money to see Lorne, the Judge and Anton Chigurh have a chat
Lorne and the Judge would probably have a good chat due to them having similar outlets on life, and Anton would be wondering why the hell is he there in the first place
Who's the judge?
@@fortelewisandrew2426 The villain of Blood Meridian by Cormac Mccarthy
I can’t wait to see this with Harley Quinn. Love this channel! You are a complete whiz with your words, and I expand my vocabulary when I listen to you. Keep up the fantastic content!
the coen brothers truly have an affinity for crafting together mysterious, psychopathic, yet alluring antagonists. on that note, you should cover the rest of the notable antagonists from the fargo series, or not even so much antagonists but even the morally ambiguous characters in the following seasons.
I'd like analyses of other main fargo villains too. hanzee dent, VM varga, etc. especially lester, because his character development is interesting
4:55 it’s not that our ancestors needed to differentiate predators, but to differentiate prey. Because - we - are the predators. We are the conduit of destruction and chaos, I believe that was the message he was trying to inspire in Lester and Gus. There are no rules, no castes, but what you can take and defend.
YES! Loved the first fargo video! Been waiting for another one!
2:10 - Starts here.
I only recently found your channel and these videos are fantastic. Some of your subjects are familiar to me and even for the ones that aren't, they are still fascinating. So well explained with nice editing that really drives home your analysis.
Thank you for now covering Lorne Malvo, can not wait to see the other characters like Mike Milligan, the Gerhardt family, VM Varga, Roy Tillman, Lorraine Lyon, the Fadda brothers, Oraetta Mayflower, etc
tbh i think the only other characters worth analysing is maybe mike and hanzee and of course Varga
Mike Milligan is not evil
I absolutely love what you do my man. I find hanzee from season 2 of fargo to be very fascinating as well, hopefully you analyze him. Keep up your great work, scholar of villainy
Been waiting for this one. The cautious/reckless Lorne.
Hope Lester makes the list for his subdued unintended using others villainy. As well as the vampiric complex financial crime cooking offputting V M Varga from the third season.
I almost died in Reno Nevada when I was 13. I was visiting my great aunt during the summer and had borrowed a bike and took off on some bike trail. Ended up getting lost but found my way back to the highway leading back into Reno. I didn't tell my great aunt what actually happened but I was so dehydrated I kept throwing up anything I drank all night. Reno is no joke.
Great Video! Malvo was one of those perfect villains, I was genuinely scared for every character he interacted with. Hopefully we'll see a video for Lester soon as well. Watching him become a villain as the show progressed was pretty great
For whatever I didn't finish Fargo
But this character left an impression on me in the few episodes i watched
I remember the scene where the cop pulls him over
Been waiting for this one for a long time, thank you.
That was a great one of Lorne Malvo, Billy Bob Thornton did a great job acting as always, Loved it.
Lorne definitely strikes me as someone whose been betrayed or bullied before. That one scene where he is genuinely disappointed that Lester didn't help him says a lot. Anton Chigurh strikes me as an embittered force of nature who simply needs an objective to keep himself occupied. Lorne has this distinct bitterness to him whenever he's not on the prowl as if every second he's not pursuing an objective it's painful. I think someone Lorne deeply trusted or even loved someone or several people like his (hypothetical) family broke him, or perhaps he witnessed the trust between people dissolve like acid.
He's a "STUDENT OF INSTITUTIONS" because the BEST institution for him is the WOLFPACK! 😂
What do you get when you cross Anton Chigurh and Tyler Durden? You get Lorne Malvo
While I like the wolf angle, I've always read it that Malvo was raised by awful people. I think along the lines of the very real monster Pedro Lopez and his upbringing of constant horror and abuse then being used to justify the disgusting crimes he committed. He sees people as pretending to be above animals and leans into that logic by being the apex predator wherever he goes. One of my favourite villains of all time. He can't be bargained with because he feeds on chaos and pain
Would love more Fargo villains mate
Definitely one of the more evil characters you've covered! Also as a suggestion, could you cover Negan at some point from The Walking Dead (show and comic) ?
Lorne was, without a doubt, the most diabolical villain the series FARGO has ever featured. Excellent analysis!
Would you do videos on the Marquise de Merteuil (Glenn Close) from Dangerous Liaisons and Sargeant Waters (Adolph Ceasar) from A Soldier's Story?
Another fantastic video. I’ve been waiting for Lorne Malvo since subscribing to this channel!
Lorne Malvo isn't a wolf. That's so funny lol. Lorne Malvo is the personification of evil and nihilistic YOLOs.
His dialogue with Lou in the diner I think highlights this. Lou says he'd described what he had seen during the Sioux Falls Case as "animal", but then goes on to say "except animals only kill for food, this was... Sioux Falls".
After Malvo eats the apple pie Lou has served him he thanks him and says he hasn't had a pie like that since the garden of Eden whilst also coincidentally avoiding the daughter he had noticed and established via a picture on the wall.
Cant wait for the next tier list with all these new characters
I have no joke been asking for this since your channel began. I am certain my requests have to be part of this being made I’m certain of it
Nice, I was just thinking the other day "Vile Eye should drop a fargo video" a little after me and the missus finished season 5.
Lorne lives for the chaos.
“Lester, are you sure this is what you really want?”
-Peyton Flanders: "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle"
-Arthur Mitchell: "Dexter"
-Henry Evans: "The Good Son"
-Mickey & Mallory Knox: "Natural Born Killers"
I second Arthur Mitchell. Lithgow was so good.
I’ve been requesting the a characters since I started watching your channel 4 years ago. I knew you’d make this one eventually and I’m glad that day is today
"Either this is just a coincidence, or it's hinting at his origins"- OR ITS SYMBOLISM.
Leaping to the conclusion he was raised in a forest by wolves is....an absurd overreach to say with such confidence good lord.
Been waiting for this one for a long time. Keep em coming VE.
"Sam Hess?"
"Who wants to know?"
".... 👀◀️▶️
Me. 😬"
Great vid on Malvo. Season one of Fargo has to my favorite of the series because of Billy Bob Thornton.
Could you sometime do one on the walking dead villains? Maybe Governor, Negan?
yes! This show is a gold mine for videos in this series, Varga from S3 or Munch from S5 especially, but Mike/Hanzee/Oreatta/Roy would also be great
I am consistently blown away by the quality of analysis in these videos. Keep up the good work!
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Lorne is my favorite villain of all time.
Loved Fargo S1! Lorne Malvo is so iconic!
Analysis Suggestion - Clay Morrow or Gemma Teller-Morrow from SOA 🙏
I’ve been waiting for this one, this is easily one of my favorite villains. The first season of Fargo was so good.
THANK YOU. i just watched this series like a week ago and i wanted so bad to see him here
Hey - I wanted to suggest I thought you might want to try Apollyon from For Honor. It's a medievil fantasy setting and her life is fairly well documented. The lore isn't extensive or anything but I think it'd make due for a video.
Finally!!! Been requesting this one for AGES!!!
At last… great video, hope you enjoy the rest of Fargo
Best Fargo villain!
I think hanzee Is better. The one thing I hold against Malvo is the Rambo scene where he solos the Cartell.. that’s just super bad writing and takes the tension and being immersed in the story. Totally over the top.
@dirkdiggler5581 Mt brother in christ the show is a satire. It's supposed to me like that
You should analyze martin walker from Spec ops: the line
Iconic performance in a series with many iconic performances 🤩🔥🔥🔥🔥
This was just a fantastic analysis. It blew me away. Malvo is my favorite Fargo TV character. When the guy in the white van sold him some stuff and asked Malvo if he could hang out with him and watch what he does. Malvo said something like “you wanna go around with me and watch me shit on people?” So Good. Then I stayed up all night watching more of your videos. I am definitely going to check out 10 Cloverfield Lane. And the Makima video. Just wow man. Great work. You even have Blood Meridian and Salieri on here!!! Count me in. I think a look at Miller’s Crossing would be really cool.
Please do these villains next when you get a chance:
1. Alice Morgan - Luther
2. Joe Goldberg - You
3. Sheriff Roy Tillman - Fargo season 5
4. Sephiroth - Final Fantasy VII
5. Catherine Trammel - Basic Instinct
6. Vecna - Stranger Things
7. Odin - God of War: Ragnorok
8. Oswell Spencer and The Umbrella Corporation - Resident Evil series
9. Edwin Epps - 12 Years a Slave
10. Magneto, Colonel William Stryker, and Apocalypse - X-Men series
11. Baron Zemo and Ultron - MCU
12. The Puppet Master - Ghost in the Shell (1995 version)
13. Andrea Greene - Swarm
14. Marty and Wendy Byrd - Ozark
15. Saruman and Gollum - The Lord of the Rings trilogy
16. Peter Baelish and Cersei Lannister - Game of Thrones
17. Simon Gruber - Die Hard with a Vengeance
@@Kaphriel1 I highly disagree with that 100%!
Amazing video, I cherish them so much. Makes me think for a second how it would be to be one of the many villains you covered...
I waited a long time for this video, so thanks for finally giving it. The secound season could get it own analysis and Varga from season 3 especially would deserve a take.
Hey Vile for July I have a suggestion of covering the world of Stray as that game was released during that month and it has really deep themes of oppression, corruption, and how the evils of the past can still affect the future.
Analyzing Evil: Jenny from Forrest Gump
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She's not evil just damaged.
Jenayyy
@@EmoBearRights were born evil taught rights and wrongs she's the capture of what every female goes through in life they see no evil they've done
Ooooo. Nice one. Man, I hated her.
saying he was actually raised by wolves is crazy 😂
I'd love to suggest Lorgar Aurelian or Erebus from the Warhammer 40k universe.
Great case studies. Adds a lot of quality to the content.