For anybody wondering about the horn, I assume that a repeated blowing of shorts was supposed to replace a badly timed 19b because of the very frequent crossings. On another note, a brake handle that pulls instead of pushes in quite a rare occurrence
None self lap brake. Goes from lap, to service, and then back to lap. Interesting how they use a whole brake console for throttle and brake. What essentially would be the independent which is reversed in placement (left side) is the throttle. And yeah just taps on the horn for the crossings. The horns are very loud cab car side in the cab.
Under the Train Horn Rule (49 CFR Part 222), locomotive engineers must begin to sound train horns at least 15 seconds, and no more than 20 seconds, in advance of all public grade crossings. Train horns must be sounded in a standardized pattern of 2 long, 1 short and 1 long blasts. The pattern must be repeated or prolonged until the lead locomotive or lead cab car occupies the grade crossing. The rule does not stipulate the durations of long and short blasts. This is from the FRA website.
He must use the horn at those specific points if its found he doesn't can be serious issues I was a loco engineering in training but didn't follow through its noooooooooo joke serious business
I wonder why the older LIRR/MNRR trains have a push button horn in the cabs, while the newer LIRR/MNRR trains built after the year 2000 have an old-fashioned pull lever horn?
@@aydenamaya7951 When is the front car opened for passenger seating? Only during peak hours? I know in Boston on the MBTA Commuter Rail, they close off the rear car (the car at the rear of the train that contains the driver cab at the end), except on peak hour trains. At the same time, they often close off all cars, except the ADA car adjacent to the locomotive.
All Lirr crews that operate C3s are kinda like that. The thing is, the C3s don’t really have a way to control the air going into the horn. If the train is going 80 mph, the horn would sound at full blast, if it was going 15mph, the horn would still sound at full blast.
So it looks like the C3 has a railfan window that someone could view out of even when the cab door is closed. So why no railfan window view videos? Or am I missing something? I've never been on those trains.
a long time ago i used to ride the train from Ronkonkoma to Jamaica and back for school... i love trains and sometime the engineer would leave the cab door open and i would watch him... one time when i got to Ronkonkoma i was approached by the UC on the train asking me what i was doing and why i was watching the engineer so much.... that was fun... lol
What an absolute embarrassment to blow a horn like that, if obviously they’re failing FRA rules by not actually using the horn as it should be. Pathetic.
Good to see PTC in there!
It is. Apparently it is not working correctly though. :/
For anybody wondering about the horn, I assume that a repeated blowing of shorts was supposed to replace a badly timed 19b because of the very frequent crossings.
On another note, a brake handle that pulls instead of pushes in quite a rare occurrence
What’s a 19B? A different crossing sequence from 14L?
None self lap brake. Goes from lap, to service, and then back to lap. Interesting how they use a whole brake console for throttle and brake. What essentially would be the independent which is reversed in placement (left side) is the throttle. And yeah just taps on the horn for the crossings. The horns are very loud cab car side in the cab.
I wonder why the engineer just pressing the horn repeatedly. But this was very cool! I don't think I have seen a video of a C3 cab car in operation.
It,is because of grade crossings that still exists on Long Island.
Under the Train Horn Rule (49 CFR Part 222), locomotive engineers must begin to sound train horns at least 15 seconds, and no more than 20 seconds, in advance of all public grade crossings. Train horns must be sounded in a standardized pattern of 2 long, 1 short and 1 long blasts. The pattern must be repeated or prolonged until the lead locomotive or lead cab car occupies the grade crossing. The rule does not stipulate the durations of long and short blasts. This is from the FRA website.
He must use the horn at those specific points if its found he doesn't can be serious issues I was a loco engineering in training but didn't follow through its noooooooooo joke serious business
town ordinances can silence whistling though...
yea why is the enginner pressing the horn its weird.
I wonder why the older LIRR/MNRR trains have a push button horn in the cabs, while the newer LIRR/MNRR trains built after the year 2000 have an old-fashioned pull lever horn?
yea
Several years ago I was on a double decker and tried to go into the front car but it was closed off to passengers. The railroad employees got pissed.
You have to be with the right people
@@aydenamaya7951 When is the front car opened for passenger seating? Only during peak hours? I know in Boston on the MBTA Commuter Rail, they close off the rear car (the car at the rear of the train that contains the driver cab at the end), except on peak hour trains. At the same time, they often close off all cars, except the ADA car adjacent to the locomotive.
Light on the horn definitely not a potato masher engineer
Haha definitely
All Lirr crews that operate C3s are kinda like that. The thing is, the C3s don’t really have a way to control the air going into the horn. If the train is going 80 mph, the horn would sound at full blast, if it was going 15mph, the horn would still sound at full blast.
yeah chill on the horn you don't need to press it so hard.
A little confused why he was blowing shorts as you are supposed to blow 2 long, 1 short, and 1 long blast
Woah epic I subbed
Ooh nice!! Were you getting off at Bay Shore?
No I was going to stop videoing at the stop and continue videoing when we started moving and edit them all together but my cam died
Are the horns of every train are buttons? I thought I would see maybe a string that pulls to sound the horn or something
Only this and the M3’s the DM/DE30AC’s use to have buttons but it was switched to levers
@@aj_lirr8756 and the M7 M8 M9 P32 and Shoreliners?
@@jackslc01 P32 has a button everything else has a lever
@@aj_lirr8756 that’s nice to know I see the engineer has a fun time using the button
@@jackslc01 it’s easier with the lever as you can control how much air is going into the horn
So it looks like the C3 has a railfan window that someone could view out of even when the cab door is closed. So why no railfan window view videos? Or am I missing something? I've never been on those trains.
Well the Railfan Window was never really used. The door was either open or closed. There’s not explanation really.
Usually the entire car is closed off to customers
@@LIPDProductionsInc I thought so. Thanks.
@Percy The Green Engine Wish railfans would take advantage of this and record videos from that view point.
Is this similar to the epic brake system on njt? Where is the power handle?
a long time ago i used to ride the train from Ronkonkoma to Jamaica and back for school... i love trains and sometime the engineer would leave the cab door open and i would watch him... one time when i got to Ronkonkoma i was approached by the UC on the train asking me what i was doing and why i was watching the engineer so much.... that was fun... lol
All short blasts?
the horn is known to be pretty loud in the cab. so he was giving it short blasts instead of 2 longs a short and a long
I like the video
nice
thanks!
@@aj_lirr8756 np
Nice!
What an absolute embarrassment to blow a horn like that, if obviously they’re failing FRA rules by not actually using the horn as it should be. Pathetic.
towns can silence them if so desired though 💡
@@trainrover nah
I like mta lirr