Another thing to add as a plus about their rigid cummerbund, is the possibility to add their soft armor ...but for that, one must understand the sizing and how it relates to adding inner bulck
I had a 3AC a while ago. I had the same frustration with the rear mounting/ sizing. I wound up completely removing the rear mounting Velcro and using shock cord routed through the molle. That worked but the Tegris at the front was still frustrating and wound up going to a SPC cummerbund that I modded for tubes. 🤷🏼♂️
I agree that the 3AC could use some improvement, but to be entirely fair to it, it came out much earlier than a lot of the newer tegris structured cummerbunds like the equinox. Also it 'wears in' a little, the stretch becomes more noticeable and the front tabs do shape to the plate bags a little more once they spend some time under a flap with mags in it. Still couldve been done better in some regards, a closure like the Equinox's would be what would make me forgive all its other flaws
I feel so vindicated by you saying the 3AC is not good bc a ton of my friends love the FCPCv5. My first one had something break in it and it stopped being as elastic on the left side, and the second one I got the bund wouldn't fully retract and would get stuck pushing the front platebag off my body. Switched to the SPC and all these problems vanished.
How do I send you a carrier to review? It’s the Javlin Concepts A-Jac, which seems like a better version of the FCPC V5. I know you had one of their early prototypes of what looked like the B-Jac and their RCOS cummerbund at one point.
Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve never been able to understand the admin pouch on the top of pcs or on the back of placards. When plates are installed they are impossible for me to get anything out of them. When I run placards as a chest rig, they work great, but the rigidity of plates makes me feel like I’m a few cards short of a full deck trying to pull anything out of them. Edit: $115 for the cummerbund :-0
Interresting to hear another view on this. Quick question, how has the rubbery material on the "jpc" like shoulder attachments held up for you, or have you replaced the straps? How do you feel the quality is compared to a JPC? Stitching and material feel / durability I've not been wildly impressed with mine but I did buy it second hand through a QRF guy who used this as his own PPE, and did apparently only a years worth of training on it.
$266 doesn’t get you a cummerbund or shoulder pads (which are a necessity on these straps). You are correct though, I was over simplifying the pricing.
Hi, rewatched this video as this is 6+ months for me with this PC, and Im not dealin with the slop you mentioned prior. Would you try it If some one sent you a set?
@@EODFish I would say their plate carriers. They have the DCS (dynamic combat system), Recon, LPC (low profile carrier), and quad releasable carrier. Get which one you like. You can buy their products from EOD Gear (located in Tennessee).
no hate, but it looks like you never use the pc before giving a review. me personally I would like to use that cummberbund and compared it to the defense mechanisms discontinued 3 inch cummerbund because the one complaint I have with the defense mechanisms cummerbund is there is no support on it and ferro 3 inch does.
Yes, you should be able to. Haley Strategic, Crye, T3 gear… they all work on my rigs though I do not have the specific Ferro within EOD’s herein video.
$1300 full set up. Only thing I absolutely hate about it after this deployment is how the plate pockets secure. I fucking hate it. I had a rigger sew normal Velcro on the loop side all the way across. Other than that I think it's good. The 3AC system is one thing I actually like. 2:562:582:59
I’ve always liked that back panel, I think they really hit it out of the park.
Just cover the raw hook facing inward with a 1" or 2" wide strip of loop without adhesive backing to protect your shirt... easy, cheap, simple
Just wanted to say thank you.. You have the best content for plate carriers.
Well thank you!
The QD buckle cummerbund adapter kit for these is very nice. Once I installed that with the QD shoulder buckles I really like this carrier now.
Nice one as always, honesty mixed with knowledge.
You are too kind. I need to find time to catch up on other people’s work.
The free floating velcro portion inside plate bag opening allows the stretch material behind it to stretch more freely.
Another thing to add as a plus about their rigid cummerbund, is the possibility to add their soft armor ...but for that, one must understand the sizing and how it relates to adding inner bulck
I had a 3AC a while ago. I had the same frustration with the rear mounting/ sizing. I wound up completely removing the rear mounting Velcro and using shock cord routed through the molle. That worked but the Tegris at the front was still frustrating and wound up going to a SPC cummerbund that I modded for tubes. 🤷🏼♂️
This is the move if you have to have a structured v5.
Did you tried the Cobra buckle QD for the cummerbund? I'm not sure if it's a good idea to get em or not
What backers do you use with your ESAPI plates? I have a Medium FCPC v5 that Im trying to use for work soon.
I use Crye backers my man.
3AC the way it comes isnt that good but with the cobra buckles its not so bad I like it in that setup.
Yay finally first one
Would you rather have this or a scarab? In terms or durability?
I agree that the 3AC could use some improvement, but to be entirely fair to it, it came out much earlier than a lot of the newer tegris structured cummerbunds like the equinox. Also it 'wears in' a little, the stretch becomes more noticeable and the front tabs do shape to the plate bags a little more once they spend some time under a flap with mags in it. Still couldve been done better in some regards, a closure like the Equinox's would be what would make me forgive all its other flaws
Silly question, would the back panel work on the spc? Always kind of wondered that
I have heard they do. That video will happen this week.
I feel so vindicated by you saying the 3AC is not good bc a ton of my friends love the FCPCv5. My first one had something break in it and it stopped being as elastic on the left side, and the second one I got the bund wouldn't fully retract and would get stuck pushing the front platebag off my body. Switched to the SPC and all these problems vanished.
SPC is a work of art.
Just bought a “naked” slingster from them and totally forgot how to set it up 😂
I agree with you, I have the FCPC and the worst part is the Velcro that holds the plates in.
I really like my FCPC but somewhat regret not getting an SPC instead
Other way for me
How do I send you a carrier to review? It’s the Javlin Concepts A-Jac, which seems like a better version of the FCPC V5. I know you had one of their early prototypes of what looked like the B-Jac and their RCOS cummerbund at one point.
That would be amazing. Hitting me up on IG would be best.
Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve never been able to understand the admin pouch on the top of pcs or on the back of placards. When plates are installed they are impossible for me to get anything out of them. When I run placards as a chest rig, they work great, but the rigidity of plates makes me feel like I’m a few cards short of a full deck trying to pull anything out of them.
Edit: $115 for the cummerbund :-0
I haven’t had that problem but don’t ask much of the admin either.
Are you gonna do a review on the HSP Thorax?
Not unless I get free access to one. They did Paul dirty.
The only thing I want from the FCPC is the modular back panel + their hydration pack and backpack panel T.T
What kind of shelves do you have the heavy duty looking ones
Muscle rack I believe.
You need to check out the Direct Action Spitfire, I think you'll be impressed.
Switched my JPC and FCPC for the Spitfire mk2 and I'm never going back.
I’d love to check out more European gear but it’s a very pricy undertaking.
Interresting to hear another view on this.
Quick question, how has the rubbery material on the "jpc" like shoulder attachments held up for you, or have you replaced the straps?
How do you feel the quality is compared to a JPC? Stitching and material feel / durability
I've not been wildly impressed with mine but I did buy it second hand through a QRF guy who used this as his own PPE, and did apparently only a years worth of training on it.
You said it was as expensive as an AVS. But I'm seeing the FCPC go for around $266 and the AVS for $680. Is there something I'm missing?
$266 doesn’t get you a cummerbund or shoulder pads (which are a necessity on these straps). You are correct though, I was over simplifying the pricing.
@@EODFish Ok, thank you for clearing that up.
Would you add the AC3 buckle adapter to the cummerbund and see if that changes your thoughts on the front end problems at all?
Excellent video!
Probably not. Cobra buckles have too much slop for that use in my opinion.
Hi, rewatched this video as this is 6+ months for me with this PC, and Im not dealin with the slop you mentioned prior.
Would you try it If some one sent you a set?
I no longer own this so I’m afraid I can’t.
Is there a chance you can check out Warrior Assault Systems? I’d like to see you do a review and share your thoughts.
Which piece?
@@EODFish I would say their plate carriers. They have the DCS (dynamic combat system), Recon, LPC (low profile carrier), and quad releasable carrier. Get which one you like. You can buy their products from EOD Gear (located in Tennessee).
I got this 1week early now to see if the fish likes My new PC
ik its year later but now that there is the soft long side armor you brob would like the 3ac with it
or then try the hsp chicken strap cummerbund
The chicken strap sucks.
no hate, but it looks like you never use the pc before giving a review. me personally I would like to use that cummberbund and compared it to the defense mechanisms discontinued 3 inch cummerbund because the one complaint I have with the defense mechanisms cummerbund is there is no support on it and ferro 3 inch does.
No hate taken. I have had enough time in PCs at work that a few hours around the house tells me what need to know.
I don't like its cummerbund, it stretches out and gets stuck and is not snug to the body like JPC is
Is that possible to zip on other brands back panels to the fcpc?
Yes, you should be able to. Haley Strategic, Crye, T3 gear… they all work on my rigs though I do not have the specific Ferro within EOD’s herein video.
Check my last comment in the video.
First Spear's pricing makes this stuff poverty class.
will a LV119 cummerbund work with this?
Not without help
Will companies ever start completely covering up exposed tegris? Idk why but on this and the Axl belt it bugs me.
Check the WTFIdea video I just posted.
@@EODFish i just did and it looks awesome, especially at that price point
Where's the back panel review on these ?
Well I screwed the pooch there and sold the whole setup without giving them their own review.
@@EODFish all good, if I pull the trigger on them I'll send them your way
Use two cobra buckles
For the cummerbund? Hard pass.
@@EODFish for the shoulders
It’s not that expensive when compared to other quality brands.
It is expensive when compared to BS.
It really is though. Quick math it’s $430ish just to reach the baseline capabilities of the SPC at $240.
Didn’t know eodfish was a mainstream narrative type dude. Unfollowed for being another NPC when it comes to major events
What are you talking about?
@@EODFish literally just followed you on here and insta because of those comments 🤣
russian bot. 0/10 would not recommend.
$1300 full set up.
Only thing I absolutely hate about it after this deployment is how the plate pockets secure. I fucking hate it. I had a rigger sew normal Velcro on the loop side all the way across.
Other than that I think it's good. The 3AC system is one thing I actually like. 2:56 2:58 2:59