𝗕𝗘𝗦𝗧 𝗣𝗟𝗔𝗧𝗘 𝗖𝗔𝗥𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗥𝗦 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟯 (Crye Precision JPC 2.0/AVS/SPC, Spiritus Systems, Ferro Concepts, Agilite)
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- In this video, we review the Crye Precision JPC 2.0, Crye Precision AVS, Crye Precision SPC, Spiritus Systems LV-119, Ferro Concepts FCPC V5, Agilite K19, and Velocity Systems SCARAB LT plate carriers. We also share comparison data on the Qore Performance IcePlate EXO® Ultralight Ventilated Plate Carrier.
Plate carriers are one of the most important kit decisions we can make when it comes to preparation for armed combat, but with so many plate carriers on the market today, how do you know which one is right for you and your application?
Until now, there has been almost no empirical data collection on plate carriers with most purchasing decisions driven by subjective opinions and hype trends rather than hard facts. Our INSIGHTS technical plate carrier review series aims to change that. Enjoy!
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Video Format Notes
These videos started as a way for us to answer frequently asked customer questions about how to integrate our IceAge Ecosystem of performance enhancing thermoregulation and hydration tools with leading plate carriers on the market. As we started answering more and increasingly detailed questions, customers started to ask us for our opinions on their plate carrier selections. In an effort to remove any bias we might have, our format attempts to be as empirical as possible We avoid sharing anything that is subjective, qualitative, conjecture, or opinion. Instead, we stick to facts and science to provide you with the information you need to be the greatest version of yourself.
Table of Contents
0:00 - Introduction
0:52 - A Word About IcePlate EXO
1:56 - All Testing Data Location
2:16 - Intro Sizzle
2:51 - IceAge EcoSystem Integration
4:21 - Weight
5:11 - Wet Weight
6:14 - Materials
7:05 - Thermoregulation & Hydration
7:20 - Thermal Transmittance
9:13 - Unique Features
10:18 - Attachment Mechanisms
10:53 - Variety
11:27 - Sizing Adjustability
11:50 - Plate Bags
12:25 - Country of Origin
13:37 - Price
13:56 - Outtro
Holy smokes as an Engineer I was not expecting this level of thoroughness from a Gun/Gear youtube channel. Super impressed with your guys content. Well done and thank you!
Wow, thank you! If you liked this one, you’ll love our 2024 video! #StayFrosty
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I'd love to see a review like this include ruck compatability and load bearing comfort. Keep up the great work guys.
Noted!
K19 is the most comfortable load caring plate carrier. Look at how large the shoulder padding is. Look at all the seatbelt rifle slings. Why? When you carry or wear these things all day. Size does matter in some things.
Agreed. You can only gather so much data larping on the range.
@@nathanielmilam75 very funny 😂 the AVS literally DESTROYS anything when it comes to load beating and comfort it is quite literally the whole point of the the design.
@@jamfd3s788 You speak like someone who's never worn an AVS and has only formed their opinion through operators online lmfao
Love my k19. Work in south Tx where it’s hot. The little extra weight is in the built in padding which some of the others have none. That little bit makes it a lot more comfortable when you’re wearing it for a long time.
Same. My K19s don't feel nearly as heavy as other plate carriers.
I’m looking to buy my first plate carrier. With my primary concerns being comfort/use in hot environments (I live in East Texas where it gets hot and humid) The new Aglite K Zero just released I may look into buying that because of your comment but I haven’t decided.
@@EricAssaf I'm in Southeast Texas. I have worn many different plate carriers in this area for up to 12 hours at a time. The way the K19 feels in the field is unmatched. In my previous carriers, I would always have shoulder and back soreness after five or six hours in one. Not with the K19. I imagine the K Zero will be even better!
Plus, it's super comfortable compared to the rest.
@@EricAssafI like the velocity systems scarab that’s my carrier set up and have 0 complaints except my cumberbund I’m trying to get an upgrade to tubes
I bought an agilite k-zero a few months back, super light super mobile, it’s a smaller system so it doesn’t give as much protection but it is so comfortable and the added mobility and speed I get with this system is very important to me, for me personally I expect to be using it when I’m evading and moving through the woods and trying to keep my load light while still having some protection. It also breathes very well.
"it’s a smaller system so it doesn’t give as much protection"
Unless I'm missing on something, non of the systems shown here had any less or more protection, these are all plate carriers, only the plate protects you. One could argue about the Velocity System, but that's about it.
I've run my scarab through years of abuse. Ntc rotations. Deployments. Schools. Tactical games. You name it. I've had it since 2018 and it's still holding up.
I haven't used many different carriers, but one I have owned and used for about 7 years now is the JPC 2.0. At this point I would take that over any hot new thing. It's simple and it has worked great. If the lv119 ever comes out in small though, I'd buy one of those. Spiritus systems is a great company.
That's looking like my most likely candidate. Does it come stock with ar mag tacos or did you have to buy separate? Any advice on options to get with it? Thanks man
I’d like to have seen load carriage as one of the parameters-not only how much it can hold, but how well it can hold it. Ruck compatibility, too.
This was a very high quality video. Amazing job!
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it👊🏻 #StayFrosty
I was issued a T3 Geronimo 2, I’ve really liked it so far. Might buy a JPC 1.0 for something a little lighter/cooler, but the G2 has been great.
I bought the LBT Modular Plate carrier on sale at Optics Planet a few months ago. It’s got to be the most comfortable plate carrier I’ve tried yet. Feels super durable and sits perfect with full Lvl. 4 plates.
That's because it's one of the best battle tested carriers made. Ever.
LBT - THE BEST
Awesome video and discussion!! I noticed on your "Materials" chart on your link that the 500D cordura row was accidentally left blank? Enjoyed reading all the info and watching this video!
Noted and fixed - thank you so much for the heads-up. We really appreciate it and sorry for the error!
HRT RAC is working for me so far. No issues. I would like to know how it stacks up for wet weight and thermal?
I have a Direct Action Splitfire MKII and I absolutely love it👍🏻
Defenitely looking to trade in my Defense Mechanisms MEPC for a Shaw Concepts ARC V2. Unfortunately it is not the greatest for comfort long wear. I hike with a ruck over it and the plates into my chest. Would be cool to see an ARC V2 in your evaluations.
If love to see some European brands in the mix. Particularly Direct Action and their Spitfire MKII. Thanks for the great video!
Im all about the AVS. Ive had so many others. You dont even feel the weight with the harness system. Its wild. Ive worn it for hours and hours and alot less pain than the sandwhich board carriers
The AVS is excellent for load-carriage. We have a plate carrier in the review queue right now that may be the successor to the AVS though...
@@QorePerformanceUSA such as?? Lol
If I haven’t already picked up a JPC 2.0, I would have gone with the AVS instead.
@@JMPC90 yea i like having the agilite too for quicker on and off but for everything else the AVS is wild. i am tall and kinda lean so over the shoulder carriers would mess with me a bit. the avs harness system is nuts. idk why more companies dont use it. my carrier is around 20lbs loaded and i dont feel it at all. it hugs around you and displaces the weight perfectly around your shoulders and torso. kinda wierd
An interesting review would be the LBT 6094 G3, especially in contrast to the classic LBT 6094 if you've got one laying around
would like to hear your thoughts on defence mechanisms MEPC, haley Thorax, Direct Action spitfire MK2, warrior assault systems LPC V2
Even though the LV119 didn't score the best at many categories. I don't think it did that bad at all. This makes me a happy spiritus owner.
The LV-119 didn’t win many categories, but it didn’t lose many either, making it a solid all-around performer.
Im looking into buying the LV-119 myself but how the hell do you order it? In all the pieces, and then put it together?
@@Kykyky603 yep. You gotta order everything piece by piece. I recommend looking at other shielded options like qore or AXL shoulder straps. AXL also has a cummerbund that’s apparently better than spiritus but I haven’t had any issues with the spiritus one
I have the LV-119 and it is definitely a great setup. I'm planning on getting an EXO just because why not? Always good to have multiple rigs. I wouldn't sell my Spiritus for an EXO though.
@@Kykyky603 Yep you purchase the front bag, rear bag and cummerbund separately so you can piece it together how you want.
I have an Otte Gear, and I don't mind it. More within my budget, still made in the USA, fastest and best shipping to Canada I have seen yet, and slick enough to be covert.
Great Video guys!
Thank you! #StayFrosty
My HRT RAC system has worked well for years. I love everything about it except their limited cumberbund options. I substituted mine for the Beez Combat Systems skeletal cut QR.
Where is the hrt made?
I use HRT RAC with AXL Equinox Cummerbund and love it. Compact, rugged, and QD
ID love to see you do a review of the LBT g3 And or the Regular 6094. I have ran the 6094 for almost 10 years now, and the last few years ive been using the G3 V2 and have been extremely impressed with the overall functions and capabilities . Ive ran some JPCs a few years back and of course i enjoyed them but i always go back to London Bridge Carriers. I liked the jpc for the low profile option and got the LBT low profile PC to wear under a split rig, and the Slick PC to run under clothing for scenarios where that was needed. Ive Always loved London bridges gear from the very first time i was issued some of their gear. Ive never had a single failure out of any product form them from the dozen PCs, Chest Rigs, Rucksacks, Day packs, and loadout bags. putting them through back to back to back deployments.. Their quality and customer service is aboce and beyond many companies.
Id love to see how their products would perform with your meticulous testing and reviewing. Hands down even though you guys test to show the benefits and negatives of plate carriers based around your field of products its the best testing anyones ever done i believe to date. you clearly show what really matters when wearing kit and hammer home the importance of weight savings and how easily a great carrier can become a nightmare when retaining. water and sweat> There are too many people who only think about the looking cool or whats the biggest hype at this point in time instead of the things that actually matter. I see alot of ppl getting the k19 and i even looked at it and thought about it cause it looks cool, and comfortable but after your overview i am glad i didnt fall for that trap lol.
I do have their mag panel though those pincer mag pouches are the beezzz kneezzz
I think the music can be toned down a bit between transitions. It goes from calm analysis to loud EDM a lot. Other than that, great review.
Great summary - thank you. Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the Shaw Concepts ARC Carrier v2.
Coming in 2023
What body armor vest covers do you recommend?
Good job on talking about ethical buying at the end keep up the great work.
Thanks and agreed! This is a hugely important topic that needs far greater transparency than many companies (most of them entry-level) are providing.
Do you believe everything the gov't tells you?
I couldn't agree less. The Israelis, even when outsourcing to Vietnam like most American companies do anyways, actually battle test their equipment unlike our military which goes with the cheapest bidder. This coming from someone issued the lowest bidded gear.
@@dakotaharless6092 I'm not trying to be that guy but I can guarantee you that we do test our gear and yes it goes to the lowest bider that meets the standard
@@ElMachoMuchoyeah, I'm sure we do. That's why the m17 fires when dropped onto tables for cleaning, because we definitely test our shit. Be real, it goes to whoever sells it to us for the cheapest price and tells us that it's good to go, we don't actually test shit until someone gets shot because they dropped their loaded gun onto a table.
Whats a good carrier for someone small? Ive ordered a few already that were advertised to fit my frame but they were too big.
I'm 5'5 and 120 even though i eat like a pig.
Jpc 2.0....if you work in hot climates it is really noticeable that the heat transmitting is significantly superb..
The testing data on Thermal Transmittance for the JPC definitely surprised us, especially compared to some of the others in the lineup:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/plate-carrier-reviews
Should review the first spear strandhogg v3. It’s what we’re issued for work. I like some stuff about it but not everything. Would be curious to see how it stacks up.
GREAT suggestion! We'll see what we can to schedule it for 2023. Stay tuned.
I have a FirstSpear AAC in mantee grey with some other aftermarket parts to make it as comfy and good as the V2 and V3 strandhögg. Would also love to see how it would stack up as against its competitors 😎👍
Interesting video. Well done.
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it👊🏻
Would have loved to see the shaw concepts Arc in the competition. Thanks for the video.
The ARC V2 is scheduled for 2023. Stay tuned and be sure to sub!
Did you guys test any of the HRT carriers?
You should try doing a review on canne's vest, the valkarin I believe is pretty versatile and reminds me of the LV119
I'd like to see how the Haley Strategic carrier stacks up. I love AVS but I think its price makes it a poor choice for people that have to buy thier own stuff and a lot of its advantages might not be worth it for civilian use either.
We considered including the Thorax in the 2022 video. It uses more traditional construction techniques and commonly available materials (nylon, foam, etc.) already used by others like Crye, Spiritus, Velocity and Ferro. Thorax is a fine PC to be sure with quality construction. It just isn't the most high-tech, isn't the lightest, isn't the cheapest, etc. It isn't #1 in the world at any one thing.
I love my Crye JPC and Ferro Concepts Slickster-I don’t feel like I’d be comfortable with anything else
In your experience, how's the spc compare to avs in load carriage? Which is more comfortable? Also do you have any experience with the crye cpc or whiskey two four plate carrier 24?
The CPC is effectively an outdated AVS. Some people have noted that it's slightly better at carrying extremely heavy loads, however the AVS gives you substantially more options and scalability. The CPC also tends to run a lot hotter than an AVS.
I'd be curious about the Lindnerhof MX244 Ultra Light Plate Carrier
Love my MOS Tactical SPAV-W plate carrier!
I run a ferro FCPC V5 and have no complaints
Even though it wasn't really the best at anything I'm quite excited for my SCARAB LT as i quite like the velocity systems products and their integration and features
You’ll love it. I have a scarab as well as a few esstac carriers and a crye jpc 2.0 and I find myself going to the velocity systems more than any others. It is super comfortable and I make nylon gear so I’ve done a tubes cummerbund conversion with a crye skeletal cummerbund. It’s a fantastic carrier
Lmao Good vid. I'm still wearing my condor plate carrier with crye skeletal cumberbund and issued plates. Might upgrade the front and back carrier of the PC later but if anything the shoulder straps would be next for improvement.
Works for me and was less than $200 with the upgrades mentioned. Though I did need to buy my own side plate carriers from a surplus store, so bump that price up to $250.
Are the thermal transmittance numbers accounting for these carriers being outfitted with ice vents as well?
The Thermal Transmittance numbers are for IcePlate Curve only. The Experimental Design is posted in the INSIGHTS article (after all the videos) with all of the testing results and has additional details (first link in the Show Notes). Our K19 video also has a slightly more details on Thermal Transmittance at 8:42 because that is the video where we introduced the test:
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Would you guys be willing to test out the Haley strategic thorax?
Well done. New sub
Glad you liked it and thanks for the sub!
How do you guys feel about the LBT 6094 G3??
Interesting review, but i'm curious why you left out Shellback tactical? Thanks
Me too
have y'all done a review of the Javelin Concept's A-Jac? with with Israeli Defense lvl 3+ plates?
It’s amazing how the prices have changed in just a year
I really like my Crye SPC but with multiple back injuries from the military, it is a bitch when it comes to comfort. I like the structured cummerbund as well but I would like to try out the tubes that a lot of people are starting to run without having to extensively modify the cummerbund. After watching your vid on adding icevents to the plates within the SPC, I think I'm going to try that before outright trying a different carrier.
Smart move!
If you want tubes on an SPC just get the axladvanced cummerbund, it's a game changer for the spc.
I like the crye spc, but I would like to see the high speed gear core plate carrie. Thank you.
Ive got nothing but good to say about my FCPC V5, i did upgrade to a cummerbund from javlin , though, runs much better now
I've ran a few carriers and I'm currently running an LV-119. I guess I'm a little biased and while it might not be "the best", I certainly think it ranks toward the top.
Just bought one of these. Excited to get it set up and start training with it.
I'd be super curious to see First Spear in that mix
I wanna know how the Crye Precision JPC 2.0 Maritime performed. I would think it should be on top as a wet shedding category.
I am also curious about the plate carrier of TYR Tactical. They are supplying to a number of LE&Military and have such a high price point that CRYE looks like a toy
Could you please review Templar's Gear CPC Plate Carrier with ROC Attachment (Crusader Plate Carrier) - its from eur and seems to be quite high quality
Well done video sir! While I don’t own one, I see many praising the HRT and AC1 carriers. That would be interesting to see
Thanks! We're glad you enjoyed it.
If they're praising the AC1 their opinion is not really worth anything
The AC1 is ok for civilian use, but definitely not the best... it does look pretty good though.
Defense Mechanisms MEPC would stack up in my opinion for quality, versatility, and price.
I own an avs and i love it. Ill take the comfortability over 20-30oz. Because you dont feel that weight the way it wraps on your body with the harness. Ill never go back to sandwich boards
Need to add Defense Mechanisms MPEC to the list.
Only have two carriers and thats the SPC, and a AC1 from TRex. I like both, and happy with both overall for the prices I got them for.
SPC seems like a carrier with maritime in mind compared to the JPC, but I do feel most would be better off with the JPC since the openess of the SPC can really cake up with muck and debris on a muddy day. And the 3 tier cummerbund gives you more options for attatching things compared to the two of the SPC. I like my SPC though, and only thing I hate about it is how much of a pain it is to readjust the cummerbund lol. Also I wish it was a 3 tier rather than 2 tier molle system personally. Also shoulder straps don't tighten down far enough for me, so I had to over bundle them making them cut into my shoulders more than by design intended it.
The AC1 I use solely for conceal carrying plates and a firearm underneath my work clothes everyday. Dont put any accessories beside maybe a spare mag, or cuffs. But usually only have it for iiia plates and my firearm + pepper spray as I can completely conceal them in the cummerbund via a remora 2 in 1 +clip holster when I wear my work coveralls. Does great for that purpose of just carrying plates and giving you some options if needed. Had to modify the sholder straps to make it sit at a angle rather than just 90degrees cutting into my traps. not of fan how they didn't design it with some kind of cant for shoulders.
Thinking of getting another carrier, for concealment like my AC1, but yet to find one I feel sparks the wallet just yet.
Arbor Arms CAS 2.0 or Assaulter PC, lots of option and unique FLEX elastic cummerbunds with Tube, Taktic buckle or elastic options
I personally run a k19 I don't have much issues with it I think the biggest thing is probably the heat but I live in Canada so having some extra warmth is a upside for me and also the k19 has come out in Mc tropic and arid and also woodland but good video I personally disagree but I see where your coming from
We don’t have an opinion on any of these PCs. All of the testing data is simply empirical fact. See disclosures in opening segment of video, but where the PCs fall in the rankings compared to other PCs is a direct result of the design.
LOF Defence's offerings, specifically the SCAR and CTAC, as well as Perroz Designs and Warrior Gear carriers. All made in Canada.
Ferro Concepts qualified because even though they are a Canadian company, their manufacturing is in the United States.
Love my AVS, especially with aftermarket parts from AXL
What about direct action's spitfire mk2?
Why does the ammo place at the front won’t it be dmg by a fire shots
What about direct action spitfire? is the most modular plate carrier in the market, it would be great to saw here in the video
i was actually surprised that the k19 wasnt the heaviest
We were also surprised by this because the K19 is so incredibly heavy in and of itself. As you can see from the data in the tables though, the margin is closer than one would think. With the AVS the weight is able to provide some load bearing benefit, unlike the K19 where the weight just means more heat retention and more bulk:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/plate-carrier-reviews
Ok where did you get the Gucci tape?? Thanks
I would like to see a video on the hrt plate carrier stacked against these.
How come there is no comparison in IR/thermal repellency for these carriers?
Coming in the 2023 series…
1 category that could be considered is durability... If the end user wasn't going to purchase another because investment vs. need what would offer him the best longevity. Theoretically the Carrier designed to carry the most weight/AVS.
I would have liked the K-Zero to have been included, but I'm assuming that given date of recording it wasn't available?
Please also do a test for the LBT 6094 GEN3v2
First spear AAC or Strandhögg are my favorites next will be the crye JPC
Is there a link or source as to the K19 being made in nam?
Yes, in our dedicated K19 video. See first link in show notes above: 𝘾𝙊𝙈𝙋𝙇𝙀𝙏𝙀 𝙋𝙇𝘼𝙏𝙀 𝘾𝘼𝙍𝙍𝙄𝙀𝙍 𝙏𝙀𝙎𝙏𝙄𝙉𝙂 𝘿𝘼𝙏𝘼.
From the list presented the best of 2022 is JPC 2.0. I wish you also included Haley Strategic THORAX
We considered including the Thorax in the 2022 video. It uses more traditional construction techniques and commonly available materials (nylon, foam, etc.) already used by others like Crye, Spiritus, Velocity and Ferro. Thorax is a fine PC to be sure with quality construction. It just isn't the most high-tech, isn't the lightest, isn't the cheapest, etc. It isn't #1 in the world at any one thing.
So no idea s as to which is the best overall? Just best in each category? No comparison of overall score or anything?
Click the link to the INSIGHTS blog article in the show notes above.
its very possible im a bit slow at the moment, but this video went through a lot of topics really fast, i think it would be a good idea to have a sort of "recap" at the end of the video so i dont have to go back through each section and take notes on which pcs placed where in each section
Agreed! That is why we created the INSIGHTS blog article write ups with all of the details and data tables already laid out:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/plate-carrier-reviews?_pos=1&_sid=aa5b3c4bc&_ss=r
We hope this helps, but please let us know if you have any additional questions. #StayFrosty
Finally, this is the video i was craving for. Am new to this type of gear and am very hesitant to pull the trigger on buying an Ar500 plate carrier but am looking at an excuse not to. The price is really good but I am not sure about materials and construction due to being made in vietnam
Glad we could help! Smart decision.
@Qoreperformance where would the Shaw concepts arc v2 stake in this video
Covered in our Best Plate Carriers of 2024 video:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/the-best-plate-carriers-of-2024?_pos=1&_psq=best-plate-carriers-2024&_ss=e&_v=1.0
will there come a video from the new agilite k zero
Possibly.
I don’t mind the weight of the carrier when I’m comfortable, I’ll pay to be just that bit more comfortable.
Could you look at the RTS Tactical OPSEC Advanced Quick Release Plate Carrier
If we get enough requests for it, absolutely! As noted above, we don’t actually select the carriers for our videos. Our audience/customers do. We hope this helps, but please let us know if you have any additional questions. #StayFrosty
Ferro🤘🏼id like to try an lv sometime for fun but slickster and fcpc are phenomenal
Can you do a review of the DFNDR QRC 2.0
is there a reason why the HRT LBAC didn't make it to the list?
id love to see javlin concepts jac tested
I have some of these, some that I think should've been on the list (my Firstspear AAC V2), between my T3 Trident Gear Tomahawk, Shellback Tactical Banshee Elite 2.0, Agilite K19, Firstspear AAC V2, and not one, but two Shaw Concepts ARC V2s, for price vs. performance, hands down my SC ARC V2s come out on top, with my Firstspear AAC V2 coming in a close 2nd (they are fairly similar, including their prominent usage of FS Tubes.)
Surprised FS strandhogg hasn’t been mentioned as frequently, as a competitor - USMS and other high end users are issued. Arguably It is substantially more than other PC on the market , making it a lessor choice of those mentioned in the video
Another viewer mentioned same. The Strandhogg (or similar) and the S&S PlateFrame may make appearances in the new year. Stay tuned.
I was looking at getting the K19 but now I’m rethinking that. Thanks for the info.
Happy to help! Transparency is the way.
My crye spc is showing up today. I wanted something more minimalistic for a carrier
What about lion heart alliance hot pursuit carrier?
How do y'all feel about the Trex arms plate carrier?
Haven’t tried it.
The back and forth between quiet talking and loud ass music kinda pissed me off because I kept having to go back and forth with my volume lol
Try the direct action gear’s spitfire or bearcat
I use AceLink Quadrelease 2.0 American made cheaper from the ones on the list pretty good plate carrier !
I’d really like to see your take on the Haley Thorax system.
See previous comments for our answer to this exact question.
Took a bit but I found it! Thank you for your response and unbiased reviews and opinions! We need more channels like yours.