Heroes of Might and Magic 5 Towns Tier List (Updated)

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @dzoltjonn7672
    @dzoltjonn7672 6 месяцев назад +12

    Fortress at C tier and Dungeon on 1st place A tier is craazy

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  6 месяцев назад

      It always depends. Never been a fan of fortress though to begin with and they aren’t even good until late game. Dungeon is always difficult to place though. The lack of creature growth is insane.

    • @dzoltjonn7672
      @dzoltjonn7672 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@MutantBray Agree, early game of fortress is annoying but late game is really good with runes. Dungeon has literally no growth with no good units, maybe dragons, lizards and these bdsm girls. I think dungeon mostly depends on Hero and his spellbook

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  6 месяцев назад

      @@dzoltjonn7672 for sure. And I think dungeon units are actually good but the lack of growth is massive for them that they just can’t always compete. But ya tbh while I’m a defensive player at heart in most games I cannot stand fortress. They are good in one simple category and that’s town defense which inevitably is a huge part of winning the game so they are just “naturally” good.

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  6 месяцев назад

      Be sure to check out all my other tier lists too though man. Got all the creatures and I’m actually working on a duel series rn so that will be starting within the next few weeks so like and subscribe for more!!

    • @brandonsbeta5162
      @brandonsbeta5162 3 месяца назад

      I agree due to the heroes powerful magic potential. Also, underground has THE STRONGEST units almost across the board. It is annoying the growth is very little

  • @nickdoyle9984
    @nickdoyle9984 Год назад +14

    Great to see Homm5 content. There's not nearly enough out there. I'd agree, generally, with the list. I find Haven very hard to get going, and their opening creep is so reliant on the crossbowman, which makes it somewhat formulaic.

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Год назад

      I agree!! Don’t forget to like and subscribe and check out my other homm5 content and more to come!!

    • @FilmGamerHUN
      @FilmGamerHUN Год назад +1

      Could you do a similar to the 12 factioned Heroes 7.5 mod :) its has similar towns as in Heroes 5 Sylvan Academy Necro etc and eternal servitude also are there its the prequel of H7 as storywise and H6 is the prequel for H7@@MutantBray There are all of the towns from Heroes 3-5-6-7 we know here. And some new. Also there are 11 type of creature now in towns sometimes you can choose. 30 heroes per faction too! Many Heroes 3, 5 creatures spells and hero skills, wre returned in H7 (Rakhasas and Minotaurs may be 2 best tier 6 here! ) and even more in the 7.5 mod. (Thunderbird, Dragon fly)

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Год назад

      @@FilmGamerHUN yes I will be doing the towns and creatures for both 6 and 7 once the rest of the heroes 5 videos are up

  • @boosted2034
    @boosted2034 7 месяцев назад +3

    Been looking for a video like this to just get a 2nd opinion on the factions. Thank you

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  7 месяцев назад

      No problem!! Hope you enjoyed!! Don’t forget to like and subscribe and be sure to check out all my other homm5 content!! Did all the creatures as well, plus some heroes 6&7 content too

  • @zszs100
    @zszs100 Год назад +18

    Can't believe you didn't talk about the RUNES for Fortress, the thing that makes them actually op. Its not about 1v1 for each unit tiers, its about what they can do as a whole and the early to late game progression. Also you never mentioned the artifact forging for Academy, which makes them really strong late game. Imagine a +40% initiative, 4 speed, and 4 luck Lion with Buff's like Vampirism or Arcane shield/Teleport. :)

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Год назад +2

      I apologize if I didn’t mention either of those things although Ik about them and def needed to be talked about. The runes are def what carry fortress late game as well as their late game units and the extra castle defense. Other than those things lol fortress is pretty bad imo. Awful early/mid game unless you excel or are being allowed to stay in or near your castle which isn’t always an option or the best way to play each game.
      I thought that I did mention the artifact building but that may have been in a creature video with the lions (rakashas) as you said (which you should check out;). It def is a useful thing and can def give them an edge at any point in the game.
      Thank you for the comment and be sure to like and subscribe to check out all of my other homm5 content with heroes 6 and 7 coming as well!!

    • @georgedimulescu7303
      @georgedimulescu7303 8 месяцев назад

      Remember years ago alsmost one shoting my friends vampire lords stack with first implosion lucky hit. Free win..even if he went for skeleton s I would have almost one shot them. And that was on a large map not on 5.5 new version.5.5 has huge imbalances in my opinion even if many things are fixed. In the lategame academy with artefacts is a beast+ sorcery that's bufed /master of freeze on 2 targets (also buffed)...your big stack of skeletons or whatever you have won't move too much. Also heaven with economy and upgrading units it's strong in the lategame. They have best stats distribution on heroes for combat and with learning they will get alot more atack and defence than most towns. Fortress was op because of runes and I see now they are nerfed. Depends a lot on map size but with this new free buff to sorcery + master of freeze academy is a beast also on early game. I'd give academy S. You should try it out.

  • @erenche
    @erenche Год назад +5

    The nature castle is just my favorite of all time.. no army can stop ossir with a huge stack of archers, put good fighting skills on ossir combined with the perfect skill (evver hit with luck) and you can kill every army. Wood giants to protect the archers and 2. Level unicorn as the perfect 1o1 creature to face other oponents.

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Год назад

      Yes sylvan is definitely very strong. And as you said it has some great units to protect the backline carries such as the archers and Druid’s. Def one of my favorites as well

  • @etoenjoyer7367
    @etoenjoyer7367 Год назад +6

    HOMM CONTENT IN 2023 IS SO COOL TO SEE!!!

  • @miguelneri4426
    @miguelneri4426 11 месяцев назад +6

    Hey , i really dont know to what type of gameplay the tierlist is meant to be , but assuming its for online multiplayer, rmg with strong or very strong monsters with heroic dificulty (the most played format), it would be vastly diferent.
    First of all , inferno is the worst by far , their creeping is very weak , and they get outscalled by preety mush every faction (they are only good if u play Deleb as starting hero), D tier.
    Sylvan is good but never S,probably B , since the town build path is nasty requiring too mush wood and they requiring upgranding the hunters and sprits in order play the early its tough
    Haven(humans) are the same as elves but with ore , altough their creeping is easyer so probably A
    Dungeon is decent in maps with strong monsters, very bad in maps with very strong monsters, C tier
    Academy is S tier, having good easy early game clear , easy build paths , and being the faction with the most variety of gameplay, allowing for early game rushing with spells , good sinergy with war machines, but also being super strong late game due to unit artifacts
    Fortress has bad creeping early(really bad) but if played on big maps , they are the strongest, best value units in the game overal and runes are too broken, but since weak early , B tier
    Barbs are great but cant do shit vs dark magic , still , A tier

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  11 месяцев назад

      I truly appreciate the constructive comment. Although I would say most people would disagree with most of your entire comment, including me. Inferno def hate them, sylvan is def good, better than B for sure A at the worst. Haven I can see at A, dungeon is def hit or miss for sure but better than C. Academy is strong but def not S tier, A at best. As much as I hate fortress I have to put it higher than B because they are good. Stronghold (not barbs) are decent I’d say a solid A. I don’t think you said anything about necropolis. Check out my other heroes content as well!!

    • @miguelneri4426
      @miguelneri4426 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@MutantBray hey, thanks for the response, like i said , the feedback was for those map types, i could see sylvan at A , but the rest is preety set in stone for me.
      I didnt say anything about necro because i agree with u
      Keep up the great work, we should definitly play some time if u want(maybe u will change my mind) :))

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  11 месяцев назад

      @@miguelneri4426 I appreciate that! lol ya maybe one day. Lmk what u think about my other homm content!!

  • @dannydanny2789
    @dannydanny2789 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dungeon's deep hydras can clear neutral ranged unit dwellings with 0 casualties, and blood maidens can outrun most melee units, so you can clear the map with basically zero casualties overall and snowball the army even though the growth is not the best, and magic wise their heroes are juggernauts

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  8 месяцев назад

      I’ve definitely always enjoyed dungeon and its creatures but man that creature growth is just so impactful, it’s literally the worst in the game and that’s one of the most important parts of the game lol. Thank you for the comment though, be sure to check out all of my other heroes content and don’t forget to like and subscribe!!

  • @Rendorina
    @Rendorina Год назад +1

    Just recently got back into HM&M and really love to see that there's still people who are passionate about it! I personally just like Inferno, don't know why, but always liked it.

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Год назад +1

      Ever since I played it many years ago it’s been one of my favorite games of all time!!(specifically this one). I’ve never been a fan of inferno, I’ve always hated it lol. Don’t forget to like and subscribe and check out my other HOMM content in the description and many more to come!!

    • @Rendorina
      @Rendorina Год назад +1

      Yeah, will check out your other stuff for sure! My brother had a physical disc for the game I think so I got into it when I was young and just fell in love with the way it plays. Was so sad when I played 6 and 7...

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Год назад +1

      @@Rendorina same, had the disc and then eventually rebought it on steam so I would always have it now that pc discs are irrelevant. Yes unfortunately 6 and 7 were not even close to as good. I’m always thinking about giving them another try but man they just don’t compare.

    • @BS-bd5uq
      @BS-bd5uq Год назад +1

      @@MutantBray H5 is also my favorite in the series, and the biggest reason is its art style and general theme. It's the only game in the series which every faction has its dedicated battle & siege music which just make everything feel so great!

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Год назад

      @@BS-bd5uq yes heroes 5 def did SO many things right compared to the other games.

  • @IKuzmos
    @IKuzmos Год назад +5

    Fortress is the strongest faction easily, especially with runes. Magma dragon highest HP, highest armor in the game, Shieldguard and Black Bear can't have their armor lowered. Former is very tanky for a t1 while the latter can stunlock a unit, Rune Patriarch also tanky and has insane synergy with destructive magic - ignite and can attack more units. Thane literally deals twice its attack damage and the second half even spreads to adjacent units, also can do a strong ranged attack once. Spear throwers slow enemies making the battle longer, which is what dwarves thrive at, long battles. Berserker is also insane with a no retaliaton ability. Wtf do you mean its the weakest faction?
    And all of these are without runes, you can make 3/7 of the units run through the whole battlefield for one wood, make a unit a ghost for 1 crystal, give 100% more attack and def for 1 wood 1 sulphur. You can also resurrect once with the runes.
    Overall Fortress heroes need to level their defense, not their attack. Get light magic or destructive magic, enlightenment and defense skill. You'll either bleed the enemy dry with ignite from fireballs or use light magic and be un-fucking-destructible.
    Not to mention that in H5, Fortress is the only faction that can go into a battle with only Magma Dragons, spam Armageddon with ignite and win the game. Dungeon can no longer can do that with Black Dragons because of stupid irresistible magic, but dwarves can. This alone should make it S tier imo.
    And even if Fortress can be beaten, Haven would be its only contender. Upgrading 7 creatures per week? Dude, that means like 30 extra paladins or so after 2 months! Or priests for that matter. Also if a decent stack of crossbowmen gets to shoot at something within 3 tiles, it becomes the strongest unit in the game, ignores fcking armor. Priests have like 90 hp, do ranged attacks and have no meele penalty, also very strong for a T5.
    Necro is ok, but its units die too easily. So you either invest 100% into dark magic to quickly win fights or 100% into summoning magic to do longer fights. Skeletons are very weak, zombies are very slow, bone dragons are also very weak, their only redeeming quality is that they're undead. Necro is A tier at best, doesn't specialize in either attack or defense too well and it shows in greater scale battles.
    Elves can only work if you get a good early game, invest in light magic, and get a lot of attack on your character to get battles over quickly, because literally everyone except the treants are made of paper. Probably wouldn't beat fortress because in that scenario the hero just learns light magic, does mass deflect missile (unupgraded rune patriarch can do deflect missiles too!) and renders archers and druids useless.
    Dungeon is very-very strong, probably the only faction along Haven and Stronghold that can attest Fortress because of the hydras and irresistible magic (rune patriarchs resist magic). Assassin is the strongest t1 creature, blood furies make any non ranged unit trivial and if minotaurs coordinate with Grim raiders, they do 4 attacks, which is ridiculous. Probably the second strongest after Fortress. Very expensive units, but much better survivability than elves.
    Inferno has basically no faction passive and all 4/7 of their units are paper, only competent in a late game battle if they managed to get there without losing too much troops.

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Год назад

      Very good and constructive comment, I appreciate that. Overall I def can’t disagree with you on much of anything that you said. The “unfortunate” thing with making tier lists especially with something like a game like this is it isn’t always consistent. Due to a number of factors like maps, how many players as well as what town are those players playing, what stage of the game are you in (early, mid, late), main hero choice and plenty of others. And I’m sure (because it’s obvious you have a lot of time on this game) that if you made a tier list like I did, played a few times here and there for a few months to get back into it and then made another tier list that it might be different than your first. It is hard to factor in absolutely everything that goes into making each town viable or not and why or why they aren’t in each scenario. At the end of the day every town could be S or D tier, just depends. Be sure to check out all of my creature videos as well as heroes 6 and 7 as well. Don’t forget to like and subscribe!!

    • @crossmodulation9730
      @crossmodulation9730 4 месяца назад

      I agree Fortress probably being the strongest late game. This tier list is pretty subjective.

    • @crossmodulation9730
      @crossmodulation9730 4 месяца назад

      Great comment. In my opinion, Dwarves and Humans are the strongest. Dwarves in the late game because of the rooms, but Humans are all around the strongest. Good economy, good heroes, training hillbillies into paladins will win you many battles.

  • @oanceamariana6841
    @oanceamariana6841 2 месяца назад +4

    @MutantBray S tier is heaven if you know making a lot of peasents why you can turn peasant into cavalary in 4 peasenta per week if you wait and resist

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  2 месяца назад +1

      @@oanceamariana6841 haven is good, but for me they have just never had that umph factor to get them into S tier

    • @oanceamariana6841
      @oanceamariana6841 2 месяца назад +4

      @@MutantBray idk what mean umph but is very powerfull some dmg for heroes in max stat because you make basic defence now about heaven best hero is Elaine reason perk for the people why double taxe payer whitch allow you to make more armies how first farm and turn archers and later into paladin or priests priests efficientless what is more powerfull champions red archangel imperial Griffin if you save a lot Vikings red

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  2 месяца назад +2

      @@oanceamariana6841 ya know umph, kind of that X factor to make it into S tier or better than other things. But again haven is def good, A tier for sure, but i can understand the argument for it to be S tier.

  • @usmanmaliki4169
    @usmanmaliki4169 27 дней назад +1

    S tier : Sylvan, Dungeon. These godly duo late game.

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  27 дней назад

      @@usmanmaliki4169 nah, dungeon has the smallest creature growth and while I do like their creatures they def have a lot that simply aren’t very good

  • @diggintiger177
    @diggintiger177 Месяц назад +1

    golems better than bears???!!!!! Good one Sir !
    Academy is king in late game with those crazy artifacts. "Initiative+movement+luck" it's just priceless.
    Orc is the worst of them all imo, and that comes from someone who likes the rage thing.

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Месяц назад

      @@diggintiger177 academy creatures kind of suck tbh, compared to others for the most part. That’s why they need the artifacts to be any good.
      Yes I do rather enjoy stronghold and while they are decent they def have a lot of weaknesses compared to other towns

    • @diggintiger177
      @diggintiger177 Месяц назад +1

      @@MutantBray 3 shooters? one being the 2nd fastest of the game, the other allowing for big AOE and the third being a tier 7? Tier 6 attacking without retaliation? yeah sure they kinda "SUCK"

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Месяц назад

      @@diggintiger177 yes but it’s easy to get to those shooters because the only benefit to gargoyles and golem is really just their magic resistance. They aren’t awful units but that utility is def what carries them and djinns def aren’t very strong either. Which then only leaves tier 6 and while they aren’t bad again they are carried by needing artifacts or to have multiple units be next to each other to truly shine. Please feel free to watch my duel mode series I have going on and you will see that academy just does not compare to some other towns.

  • @sample3279
    @sample3279 9 месяцев назад +2

    Dang you guys still play this game? I'd love to hook up with you for a game or two

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  9 месяцев назад

      Haha yeah I always end up coming back to it from time to time. Def one of my favorites of all time if not number 1. Be sure to check out all of my other HOMM content and don’t forget to like and subscribe!! Maybe we can get together and play sometime.

  • @adamp6320
    @adamp6320 5 месяцев назад +2

    Your tier list is pretty garbage. Inferno? lol

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  5 месяцев назад

      Inferno is pretty trash. Prob not even a top 4 town but if it is then it’s the fourth one.
      Don’t worry though. One last update to my towns tier list and for all of my creatures tier lists as well so don’t forget to like and subscribe for what’s to come and to check out any of my other 500+ videos

    • @diggintiger177
      @diggintiger177 Месяц назад +1

      @@MutantBray and that's why you put them in A Tier ?Well that's some interesting reasoning...

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Месяц назад

      @@diggintiger177 well I def try and not make it too opinion based because otherwise they would be in the bottom tier lol

    • @diggintiger177
      @diggintiger177 Месяц назад +1

      @@MutantBray giving your opinion is the whole point of such video. we want to hear what YOU think and not what others do.
      In my opinion your ranking is in a bad spot because you mostly compare the general stats of the creatures instead of taking initiative and movement into account. inititative will make you win most battles.

    • @MutantBray
      @MutantBray  Месяц назад

      @@diggintiger177 fair enough