2020 KING-SONG KS-16X COMPLETE REVIEW - What King-Song does better than the rest! (and worse...)
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
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Awesome review! I’m a GotWay fan, but watching this made me want to ride the 16X 😱
My job here is done 😁 Awesome to see you here ;)
First one to ride a 16x backward up a 40° slope wins!
Alien Rides you would love the KS16X I promise 👍🏼 I have one of the second batch wheels cross my fingers I never had any problems with almost 700 hundred miles on it
Excellent review Adam. 👍
@@mr_wrongway which one is better for driving 50% city 50% offroad ? witch one would you choice? because a lot of people telling me that 16x is for offroad and nicola+ city. Thank you very much for your answer
I bought a 16x a little over a month ago. HOLY FLYING CARPETS BATMAN, if a Time machine existed to eliminate my 2nd marriage, next to I would buy one of these in 2016. What a blast. As a teenager (50yrold), tearing up the town on a bmx, this is So much better and I cannot wait to go back to the old neighborhood and tear it up! The price, well how much is a new motorcycle? Dirt bike? Off road bicycle? And don’t forget it goes anywhere with you. Back seat or in the work van is Where my lives when not in use. This is worth every single penny on the fun meter…Eyeing that Veteran as my next one already- Hoping it’s “Sailor Proof”! My new panels are sitting in the box ready for replacement. It took a shower of beatings while I learned. If I had Fell, head over heels - up to 4 in a row, 5-? Times, No way I would be at 100% performance like this little wheel, Duct tape and ride on!!!!!
I'm on the west coast of Canada on Van Is and you are and amazing rider and have inspired me to give the EUC a try. I look forward to more, you're the best. Thanks
My King Song 16X was delivered today. Just going over some of your videos for a refresher. Thanks for your work. ; )
Fantastic Review, thank you! It's seriously fun watching you have fun :D
As I hone in on the EUC for me this video was exceptionally helpful. Thanks so much.
This guy is really good at handling and mount/dismounting this wheel. Nice job.
Got mine, learnt riding in 1.5 hrs, and been on it since mid January as my 1st wheel. Now 1500km. I can confirm all in this video, except backwards riding.. lol. well some day... Best thing I ever did, get this wheel. as you said, you dont want to get off it. Its versatile mostly everywhere. I use it for everything in daily life too. Just sad the grocery shops are too close. I always look for the furthest away. haha. Superb video! thanks.
So, does it throw you off balance at all carrying grocery bags?
@@alvaro1121 IF its very windy and you have light groceries, like chips, and marshmallows, in the bags, yes!. Usually you have like 5-10 kg (20+ lb) in each bag, so the wind wont affect to much. If keep one bag in front and other back, it makes a line that wind do not affect you so much. Start, turn, and sudden stops affects more, so careful riding pays off. Keep away from hazards and its a win. Slow learn, and go from there. I have been riding in almost storm conditions, and its, well, a bit informative, but not so successful. Normal winds are ok. Those delivery guys out there on EUC's are the champs. They ride in any conditions ;-)
Amazing work very informative and great review. I really liked the comparison and the feelings you have with ks16x VS other unicycles from the same price category. Emphasis on practical experience with use.
You are the king that you were not afraid of 40 climbs. Keep doing what you're doing, you're doing great. How pedal/footplate settings you ride on 16x soft/medium/hard?
Just bought it online, now waiting 2 days 😀 thanks for the review !
Great video. Looks like a great wheel, and my local vendor actually has a sale on right now. Just wish it wasn't limited to 50kph!!
Awesome review! as always. This was my 2nd wheel, just 1 week after after learning with a KS14D. I think I fell in love with EUCs because of the amazing riding feel of 16X. But yes, the low top speed very quickly becomes a real limitation, furthermore, the App-indicated speed is inflated quite a bit (by about 5 km/h compared to GPS speed: I get the 50 km/h tilt back consistently at 44-45 km/h GPS, which sucks!). Ordered a couple of new GWs for that reason.
Which GW did you get. Ive been reading the 16x is more of a 25mph wheel and has cutout risks above 26
Andy Chen , I bought the MSP High-Speed version which I absolutely love, rides very similar to the 16 X, great maneuverability, same weight as 16X despite bigger wheel, and its crazy fast, lift spin cutoff is 61mph, (98 km/h), you can safely ride at 45 mph down to 50% battery, I already crashed it at 35 mph, but was wearing full gear so no injuries but could have been ugly without protection. The other wheel as a V3 monster which I also like, but today I would have gone for the veteran Sherman instead of the Monster.
Here is detail analyse About Firmwares and performance KS16X to date 13.5.2020. I'll simplify it for impatient good results will give you the firmware with which your KS16X came from production. Don't fix what's not broken. For curious riders, here is an analysis:
In the background, I bought a KS16X second batch made on August 10, 2019 with a motherboard 1.4 and firmware 1.05 pre-installed from the factory(and i aplicate bluetooth patch).
I also have a 1.5 motherboard made on March 7, 2020.
I want to share with you the results I have tested for many hours of measuring LOG file analysis and acceleration tests with various Firmware and pedal settings. I've been working on it for over a week.
Before I begin, I would like to thank Kingsong's amazing decision to allow the FW to be modified in specific cases for customer satisfaction. I really appreciate that, and Kingsong has risen to the top of the EUC segment. I really hope that the kingsong will not change and will remain at the forefront.
Now to the most important thing that escaped almost everyone's fingers. The firmware behaves fundamentally differently in connection with the 1.4 VS 1.5 motherboard with which the KS16X is equipped.
How do I know which control/mainboard I have a board?
Just open the case and look. Or it can be found out from the serial number, in it the date for me was 190810 (v1.4) and the new background board is 200307 (v1.5).
And the crucial date is September 9, 2019, when the motherboard v1.5 went into serial production. (this is date i found if somebody can confirm i be happy)
Or easy way is if you stock Firmware was 1.07 you have propably mainboard v1.5
I wanted to think of it with tables, graphs and scientifically, but there was so much that I would just write it here with a sentence.
Result For the KS16X with the v1.4 motherboard, the best firmware results are 1.05. FW 1.07 is also very good and usable, it is a matter of taste, but from a practical point of view 1.07 prevails with its benefits. If you want RAW power, take 1.05. If you prefer longer rides at higher speeds, take FW 1.07
Result For KS16X with motherboard v1.5 gives the best results firmware 1.07 or even FW based on it which is probably also 2.02 is also very good and usable but I have heard all too often caution overpower or 4 beeps even in situations and loads where other FW were silent even with the same Amperes and POWER checked according to the EUCWORLD LOG.
It makes no sense to install FW 1.05 on the motherboard v1.5, you will not get any measurable benefit even in the braking distance of acceleration by nothing. I'm sure it's a safe FW 1.05 even on v1.5 but it doesn't fit the hardware as well as 1.07.
supershort:
MB v1.4 best fw 1.05 because braking, offroad, aceleration, 0 to 40 RAW feel.
MB v1.4 FW 1.07 very adult FW for some riders i imagine can be beter with compare 1.05(not RAW is smooth feel)
MB v1.5 if you install 1.05 is definetly downgrade keep FW 1.07(and propably newer FW) for best results no discusion here is just tested fact.
Mainboard v1.4 vs v1.5 have diferent pedal hardnes/stiff v1.5 on same FW 1.07 is mutch harder compare to 1.4 same FW 1.07
After testing all Firmware on v1.4 as well as on v1.5 I personally kept v1.5 and FW 1.07
If I kept the mainboard 1.4 I would stay on fw 1.05 I was satisfied (and v1.5 + 1.07 is very close to v1.4 + FW1.05).
I changed the 1.4 motherboard because it showed me a temperature of minus 16 degrees Celsius at room temperature.
This may also be the reason why some riders had falls, perhaps because their motherboards did not report the temperature badly and then CUTOUT / OVERLEAN due to overheating.
KS and the people thought it was Firmware. Check the temperatures at rest! I tracked the values through the Eucworld app
lessons for all let's respect beeps and hardware revisions.
I wish you all many happy miles on the KS16X. And I hope I've already fixed the confusion over this topic. And urban legends can remain in books and not in our heads.
Wow! Thanks 👍
Thanks a lot for this!
Any new updates on this topic? Any new firmware today?
@@carlosvaquerofoto
Я недавно купил новую ревизию такого колеса с прошивкой 2.2
Man. This wheel looks sooo legit. Im THIS close >---< to buying a nice wheel to start jumping offroad and the climbing power of this thing looks like it'd be great.
As always, spectacular review! Thanks for pumping out so much high quality content.
Time a a new demo I guess. 😜
Perfect review ,nothing else to add:)
Great Video, it was a Deciding factor for me! Received my 16x in September and have been riding (practicing) every moment i can! i love the design, handle, and speed. there are wheels that go faster, but i just want to enjoy "Cruising "!
Thanks Again!
Would you still recommend
Are you still using it?
Wow....you climbed that backwards....I’m astonished . Good skills.
Tyłem pod górę .... szacun
Great review! I love my 16X.
Very comprehensive review! I've never even ridden an EUC and I still watched it all 😂
😁😁😁
I had finally decided that this is going to be my first wheel... but then I found out about V11 and S18 coming soon! Now I gotta wait a couple more months to see the test rides on them!
I'm the same as you but 4 months after you made your review, I thought this video of the Ks-16x was very good bit did you buy v11 and how did it go? That wheel catches my attention ...
Like to see what's it like to walk a pet/dog while on a euc. Maybe what type of work you could use as a euc. 2 people moving a long ladder while both are on euc's. The possibilities of pushing a wheel barrel up a hill. Anyways.....your good at reverse. My peddle broke due to the pressure in the middle of the peddle, from turning hard and scraping the outside edge of the peddle quite often. Inmotion peddles sold separately. Took pics. So I think the height plays a big part when using large peddles. You do not want to scrape the outside edge of your peddle when turning hard which causes pressure in the middle of that peddle to break from the inside hendge/axle that connected to your euc. $100+ peddles down the drain. After 1 year use of course. And it broke when I crossed this 2 foot wide concrete drain dip on the side of the road, in diagonal, and the peddle scraped the edge. Good thing I have my original peddles. Keep up the good work. Wrong Way!
This is the wheel I bought - was very interested in what you thought of it. As a novice rider I'm certainly very happy with it.
it's a great wheel!
Do you still have it?
Would love to see a game of EUC HORSE between you, Chooch and Kuji. Make it happen..lol.
wtf is wrong with me, i keep thinking the name is king kong and now i keep picturing king kong riding around an empty new york city with a giant unicycle LOLOLOLOLOL
Trololllol xD now i see it too, oh noooo! King Song bing bada bong king kong. Do a King Kong Song sung by a King Kong on King Kong's King Song unicycle!
Yeah they do need a better name.
@@mr_wrongway lol thats a good king kong tongue twister.
HI Love your Video I got my Ks 16 in June and just when I was learning how to ride it I fell off trying another Wheel the Ms I hurt my elbow because my elbow pads were too big. Now I feel better but forgot everything I had accomplished in the past. I need a tutor to put me back on track . I live in NY any one from NY to guide me back on track? As for now I'm watching tutorial videos to get me back on the road. Thanks amazing review.
yoyoyoyo wrong way. thank you for the awesome videos love your channel. the intro you do is one of the best on the whole internet. hey so in 2021 what is the best EUC for me to get for my first. keep in mind i want to make sure i get the best wheel the first time and not get one and wish it were better you know? thanks in advance bro!
Good review
Cheers
Hi Wrong Way, after buying a Inmotion V8, I sold my expensive Inokim OX Super because I rather prefer roding an EUC. The V8 is a super wheel but I want to upgrade. What I do like about inmotion is the quality, the headlight and it charges quick. Now I please want your advice. A ninebot Z10, a inmotion V10F, a Gotway Msuperx, Gotway Tesla V2 or this kingsong 16x.
The V8 is limited to 25km/u and by the app you can unlock it to 30 but to be honest, I never tried because I am afraid it would waren me and just switch off or no tilt back. I love the smooth tilt back of the V8 at 25km/u.
I want to go a bit faster and a Some extra range but important is the comfort. Mostly I am riding on the street and now and then a gravel road.
What is your opinion please.
Best regards of a huge fan.
Wim
4:56 I've had this wheel since it came out and I've never heard the voice say this
Oh wow, I’m convinced…
Thanks to you for the review and to your colleag for the tests…
Awesome wheel even in 2024…
(Considering it’s. Or overpriced)
🎩🎩
@Wrong Way! Nice video 👍 can you share where did you get backview mirror 😀
Hello, how are you, excellent video, you can see that you enjoy your wheels a lot, I have a question, I am a heavy user of 110 kg and I learned a 14 d which cut me off and shot me, well normal since it is a lot of weight for the wheel that is small and I was thinking between the Kingston 16X, 18 L and the 18 XL I think the difference between these two is only the battery, right? Could the fact that the XL's battery is larger prevent it from being low and I demand a little more from it to be more sure that it doesn't cut me off? Now I was looking at the kidston 18S but I'm not much off road, I'm more of a city. Is it worth making the investment for the Kingston 18S? Does this wheel require more maintenance and care? What can you say to me? Thanks in advance and a big hug.
Cześć
What do you do with the wheels after you have reviewed them?
And what price should I expect to pay for a mcm5 v2 or KS 16x
I'm in the market for my first wheel
One side of the pedal squeeks for my husband's KS16x also! So strange. He thought it was just him...
Pretty impressive wheel. 😗❤️
Thanks for all of the great reviews! I'm looking into getting my first EUC and was thinking about getting a used one so I'm not so worried about scratching it. I found one of these for about $1,000 and it looks like they're still selling it for $1845. Do you think it would be a bad idea to grad a used one at that price?
@6:00, Very brave of Adam near the water. I think if the wheel started sliding it would go into the water and be lost.
Great Job!
What is the best e unicycle right now? Maybe i will buy one
To go to the post office I prefer ks16s only 17.5kgs don't need to go at 40km/h for this use case. Thx for the review.
It's a matter of time that euc will be the primary Everest expedition gear.
How much amp does it draw while climing that steep and with the fast acceleration?
Hey ,we love you and your awesome vids 🤘🏽…was looking at a second hand 16X and was wondering if there was any way to unlock more speed and would you get one now or are there better options ….cherrs 🎉
I see this one in stores in my country, still good in 2021/22?
Great review, great music choice, love my 16x
So, Nikola + or 16x?! Which one would you choose?
What type of Tyre is on it? Does anyone know? Looks V different to mine. Thks.
Friend of mine traded for kingsongx16 recently. Scooter for EUC. Good deal
Great review and great performance Adam. Where is the 30 degrees hill at 6:40 ?
Pod mostem Grota chyba.
Hi! Sorry, what about tire pressure? Thank you!
👍test of the ks 18 xl please
How do you lift it off the ground? The trolley handle? Wouldn't it break over time?
Hi, it has speakers?.... Where is the sound test? 😇 And matching rgb's 🥰
Hi Adam! New fan from Italy here! 😊
Can I ask u if KS 16X it's still a good wheel?
I am planning to buy my first wheel and cannot decide between a Kingsong 16x, a 18XL and an Inmotion V11 (does it still have problem with bearings?). I d like to take the wheel for a veeeery long trip (the whole Italy?)...what would you recommend? Do you have other suggestions? (I m not a speed demon, going max 45 km/h and plan to do 60%road, 40% off road)
What did you end up getting ??
I don’t know if you got to try it but what are your thoughts on the ks18xl. Would you say that’d be a better option for someone looking for an all-rounder which allows them to cruise at45-50 km/h through the city. I heard there’s a 2200 w motor version of it now. Thanks
Definitely. Bigger wheel, more urban than 16x.
Very nice summary - spot on. Mine doesn't even have that many miles and there's tons of dirt inside the LED's. Oh, this wheel came out about 8-months ago, not a year. So you're still semi-current ;-)
Thanks for the comment Marty! Sad to hear abiut the dirt-thing, this has to be annoying... Gotta prepare my research better next time :)
Marty , my one is dirty too ,is it dangerous for inside electronics?
Great review, and btw you can turn off voice warnings to a normal beeps. Play with KS16X settings and you can change pedal stiffness.
I'm an EUC noob and I'm currently learning on a V8F and all is going well, though I have to admit, I wish I had held out for the 16X.
Yo también inicié con una V8F y estoy cerca a obtener una 16X :3
Does anyone else agree that these uni-wheels are generally safer than scooters because you have both hands free? Going too fast is the operators fault but sometimes riding my scooter feels like running with my hands in my pockets. Its hard to catch yourself once you start slipping lol. ( I call it uni-wheel cuz you aren't cycling anything anymore lol.)
Phenomenal review! I'm currently on my first wheel, Inmotion V8F, and in between KS16X and the KS S18. Obviously you can't know for sure until you ride the latter, but what are your thoughts on the different specializations between the two?
Just because of the pedal issues you experienced with the other one wheels(sorry I forgot what they’re really called) I would choose this over the others, also reducing the max power would solve a lot of the issues, or just disconnecting the speaker hahaha.
speakers in EUC are overrated. We can get music from other devices lol. you made a good call with this!
@@greenwave819 hey as long as you can gear that thing beep when youre holding on for dear life it doesnt matter
One wheel it's masacre in your hands,the best electric vehicle for You-I think👍🏁🧨
The only downside I found in this particular EUC (and 16XS - same shell) is the fender: too weak, even if you're careful.
You run over some gravel, it'll eventually get kinda "stuck" (being "kicked") between the wheel and the fender. Over time, it'll literally *cut* the fender off...
So guys, avoid going too fast over gravel while riding this EUC - and even at low speeds, after going over gravel, make sure to "shake" it a little bit, just to be sure, hehe...
You still get wobbly at high speeds?
About speed it doesnt seem totally correct, at lower batteries yes it will throttle speed but before that stage I have no problem reaching 50kph very quickly before the tiltback which isnt too threatening for me. And it wouldnt give me any overpower alarms so far at that speed. I ride with a friend with msx v2 in really fast speeds and after 53km of riding 16x would have 43% battery left and msx would have 24%. Strangely at high speeds 45~50kph this wheel feels even more stable than msx.
KS S18 review or RIOT!
Step 1: like the video
Step 2: watch :)
Thanks for this great review! It made me confident about buying this wheel.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard the warranty from myewheel lasts 2 years instead of just one. It might get more people interested if you specify it.
Wrong way był lepszy po polsku :?
@@dedmach_4451 lepiej mieć zasieg globalny czy tylko na nasz piekny kraj ?:D
Super cool!
WHERE IS THE BATTREY INDICATOR?
Can I buy them on alibaba ?
Nice jacket !
Hi Buddy and what about the feature of FW 1.0.8 to calibrate pedals in live from the app??with one finger you can move pedals up and down! Phenomenal
And by the way great review you caught all of pros and cons :)
I found it practical but actually I felt it worked like 50% of the time maybe...
@@mr_wrongway thats a shame :O Probably that is why its not with users only with representatives for test...;)
What the hell is pedal dipping anyway? Is there some reason or purpose to it? Is it some sort of unavoidable side-issue? Nobody has ever explained it - can you? Please?
Quick question - Can the Gotway Tesla make it up that 40* incline you tested on with the KS-16x and also the MSS?
I dont think so but i guess we will have to make a hill climb session one day
Would you say the Tesla has more climbing ability than the 84v MSX but less than the 100v?
I think tesla has worse climbing abilities but I'd have to put it to the test
Speaking just from practicality perspective, the 16X is better. In terms of torque, comfort on longer rides, performance (except pedal dipping) the msp is better
@@Rapha194 i chose mss :) msp with different 2300W motor :)
Now you need to find a 90 degree slope!
Is euc.a motor vehicle?
Can you share the brand and model of your knee pad? Thanks.
Leatt Dual Axis
🔥
hello what is the ideal tire pressure for the wheel 16X.
100 kg and I run 37 psi, think anything 35-40ish is okay.
how would you say the seated riding on it is vs msx ?
I did not ride either one seated...
Nobody shows the seats on these things don't the seats pull up or something I wish I knew
Sign the wheel before you send it back. It will be a collector's item.
After watching soo many videos, I am still no closer to a decision.
I think that the market still has to settle down towards a good all-rounder.
How much extra to have genuine carbon fiber panels, for instance?
And why use inferior fastenings? Surely the cost savings cannot be that great.
Instrumentation could have a horizantal detector and/or solid state gyroscope, so that the wheel knows the true angle of the pedals to the horizon.
The tilt-back could be controlled by a PID controller that can be programmed.
They could include super capacitor to absorb surges in current when braking or fast acceleration.
On to the 18" wheels.
Is there any way to silence the low battery guy?
I like be the transitions in this vid
On the KS16X did you have the pedals set to hard? I only ride on hard on my 16X. When I accelerate it stays flat. I’ve never had that issue with the medals moving around like that. I could also just be lighter than you.
Yeah, always hard :) it is like that during stfessing it really hard
Wrong Way! Yeah I’m an aggressive rider but I’m also lighter so that could be it for me. Still loved the video. Always great videos 🤙🏽
Maybe they need to put an option on the app for input of rider weight so the firmware could be adjusted to suit different riders
Maybe because I've not ridden a gotway but I ride this wheel at 50kph constantly...never feel any problems. Maybe I just don't notice how dangerous it might feel because I've not had a different experience.
So you leave no margin for user error.
therealestmc85 -- he didn’t say he rode 50 everywhere. On an empty road 50 is fine for short bursts.
Did you have a wobbling issue (left to right) with 16x?
Not really, no
Witaj Czy polecasz to koło dla początkującego? Oczarował mnie świat kółek i chce w to wejść :)
Zdecydowanie tak ☺️
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Awesome review!
16x dose 100% good first impression, Real balanced and seams fun to ride. but then you start using it you understand what it is not exactly like that. extra poor build in quality, and prob elms with cut off for 85-100kg riders are just always near you, Thanx for review. like.
over 3k on it, my weight is around 100kg ,i never had any dangerous issues ,i accelerate hard only within first 6Volts (down to 78v) ,i never ride faster than 45kmh , you must know your wheel and what is capable of and don't ride like an idiot:)
Marek Mazur - ignore that dude, he is a troll. No data, no stats, just general statements. I also never had problems with Kingsong ever.
@@bartholomewlyons 😀21 subscription no normal video on your channel and more then 3000 subscribers I have and 200+ videos about euc. And who is troll here.?
@@TheHagov dude, you can have a million subscribers, how does it affect you saying ridiculous things? where are your stats? what are you basing your claim on? There pink elephants on Mars, disprove it...
Good commuter wheel if you ride trains and walk?
Definetely
what kind of video stick do you use?
Insta360 nullet time selfie Stick
WROOOOOONG WAAY!
16x or v11
The most agile 16 "over 20 kg 🥇
Indeed!
Website you recommend is sold out of almost everything. Pretty annoying when ur ready to buy.
Para o Brasil como fazer para comprar?
Eletricz
Can i ask you whit what tire do you drive KS16X?
Chaoyang cs321 i think
6:10 that's is what I call great skills! Mate how did you learn to go backwards? How long did it take to learn it?
Worth buying second hand??
One is for sale near me for around £900..