Kids tend to emulate the parent who gives them the most positive reinforcement. Azula being so talented in combat, it makes sense that Ozai would praise her on a regular basis, so she started to become like the callous prideful scheming opportunist her father is at an early age. Meanwhile, we see Ursa encourage and bond with Zuko, so he acted protective toward Mai like his mother used to do for him. I also like how this episode shows how Ursa impacted his son to the point that years after he still thinks about those moments with her, even though his father's approval is what he seems to want the most. Edit: also, it's sad to think that Iroh lost his only son, only to come back home and learn he lost his father too.
Zuko Alone, not only one of the best episode of characterisation in cartoon history but one of the best in media history. The way they handle Zuko's character in this episode is AMAZING
13:15 his mom says that, and he takes it the wrong way, prideful in his family lineage and being heir to the throne, and he gets dusted for it. She really meant to remember who he is as a person, a kind-hearted, hard working son she loved.
I think this is still my favourite episode in this whole show. They told a whole movie's worth of story in 23 minutes. It's actually a loaf of bread that is thrown at the turtle duck. Ursa is Latin for "female bear". She is literally mommy bear.
Im glad u brought up how good Zuko is at firebending cause some people think hes weak but like you said, hes one of the strongest firebenders/benders around. Its just he’s surrounded by freaks like Azula, Iroh and the Gang. He beat Zhao twice who was an admiral. Guy is no joke
Zuko is naturally better than the average firebender, being that he came from the lineage of the royal family of a meritocratic nation based on firebending prowess. This is why he bested Zhao at his age, the royal family is, in a way, bred to be a cut above the rest. That said, he isn’t a prodigy in the same way Azula is; Zuko struggles where Azula just excels.
Azula also trained hard to achieve what she sees as perfection in order to surpass Zuko in everything, but because she is much more cold and is a psychopath, she dominated firebending more easily than Zuko.
What I love about Avatar is that it never lets you view each nation as a monolith, there are horrible people in every nation we visit and good people in the fire nation
I agree with you that Zuko's moment at the end was not a moment of insight and triumph but misinterpretation. mori1bund provided some contextual evidence against this interpretation so let me provide some contextual evidence to support this: Zuko's response to the Earth guard's question, "who are you?", is "... Fire Nation Prince, son of Firelord Ozai... heir to the throne". Is this the identity that Ursa really wanted Zuko define himself by? Ursa is never shown talking about status or the throne with Zuko but Zuko is still obsessed with these things and can't let them go, just like when he was when he was pouting on his ship saying, "my honor, my throne. I'm about to lose them all" before taking on the Blue Spirit persona in Book 1, and just like when he was on the streets saying, "we're royalty. These people should be giving us whatever we want!" when Iroh was begging for change. When Ursa tells him that he's "someone who keeps fighting even though it's hard", he demonstrates this on superficial level when he continues to fight the Earth guard but I think his answer to the Earth guard regarding his identity shows that he completely misses the true point about the values that Ursa tried to instill in him; Zuko is constantly struggling between right and wrong and being a force who helps the world and a force who harms the world and he needs to continue fighting (internally as well) against all the negative influences in his life to do the right thing. Zuko has done nothing to fight the influence of Fire Nation indoctrination and recognize that they are the bad guys but instead he doubles down on it when he declares proudly that he is the "son of Firelord Ozai... and heir to the throne", just like when he doubled down by stealing that family's ostrich-horse, and just like when he double-downs by splitting with Iroh when Iroh suggests that catching the Avatar will not solve all of Zuko's problems. The situation shows that while Zuko has made some superficial progress, he still refuses to internalize and accept that the Fire Nation is harming innocent people and thus refusing to fight in his internal struggle against the abusive influences in the Fire Nation. Note that the moment after Zuko firebends and is shown surrounded by fire isn't depicted in a triumphant positive way like Zuko has made some sort of huge internal progress. Instead, it's depicted in a menacing way with a scowl on Zuko's face while menacing Fire Nation music plays in the background and it shows the child looking upon him in horror and the screen lighting up with the sight of flames reflecting off his eyes. If you only saw this scene, you would think Zuko is the villain by the way he's depicted. Clearly, the creators/artists want viewers to recognize that this isn't a moment of character growth and triumph for Zuko even when externally he's helping these villagers. Indeed this is an important learning opportunity but Zuko at present, he still not ready to learn the lesson, he still has this experience to draw back on next time.
I actually disagree about Zuko being a prodigy but Azula's just better, he's just put in more effort than most fire benders we see, he's not naturally gifted at all.
I do think a lot of what child Azula says must be things she heard her father say and she's repeating them. I mean she's much too young to have actually come up with half of what she said (like saying her father would make a better king than Iroh, saying that Azulon is old and not "the powerful firelord he used to be", or even that thing about Iroh being a coward for leaving the battlefield after his son's death).
Purely from a writing standpoint this might be the best episode in the series. Learning about how Zuko's relationship with his family shaped who he is now is one of my favorite parts of the series.
I saw Lindsay's reaction to the turtle duck scene coming from light years away. 😂 But yeah, very heavy episode. I think Azula's twisted personality can simply be chalked up to her spending a _wee_ bit too much time with her daddy, but it's still pretty disturbing to know that she's been a cruel psychopath from such a young age....
sorry to bother on an unrelated video, but there's no recent JJK-related videos that I know you'd check the comments of; when's the JJK s2 review coming out? need my yapfest!! lol
Kinda. But childhood doesn't erases crimes and horrible deeds at all. It may attenuet them, but not reset them. She has responsabilities as a grown up person in positions of power. Not a victim there, but a perpetrator and murderer. She also had psycho tendencies not everything is her father's fault.
@@MrDUneven Korra's only a disappointment if you expect a copy of ATLA, which it's not mean to be, it's more subtle than big bad fire daddy want to burn the world, sure, not necessarily everyone's taste. Seeing how many reactors already enjoyed it, maybe you can stop that ridiculous Korra slander and let them make their own opinion?
Kids tend to emulate the parent who gives them the most positive reinforcement. Azula being so talented in combat, it makes sense that Ozai would praise her on a regular basis, so she started to become like the callous prideful scheming opportunist her father is at an early age.
Meanwhile, we see Ursa encourage and bond with Zuko, so he acted protective toward Mai like his mother used to do for him.
I also like how this episode shows how Ursa impacted his son to the point that years after he still thinks about those moments with her, even though his father's approval is what he seems to want the most.
Edit: also, it's sad to think that Iroh lost his only son, only to come back home and learn he lost his father too.
Zuko Alone, not only one of the best episode of characterisation in cartoon history but one of the best in media history. The way they handle Zuko's character in this episode is AMAZING
13:15 his mom says that, and he takes it the wrong way, prideful in his family lineage and being heir to the throne, and he gets dusted for it. She really meant to remember who he is as a person, a kind-hearted, hard working son she loved.
Or they just hate fire nation in general
I think this is still my favourite episode in this whole show. They told a whole movie's worth of story in 23 minutes. It's actually a loaf of bread that is thrown at the turtle duck. Ursa is Latin for "female bear". She is literally mommy bear.
Im glad u brought up how good Zuko is at firebending cause some people think hes weak but like you said, hes one of the strongest firebenders/benders around. Its just he’s surrounded by freaks like Azula, Iroh and the Gang. He beat Zhao twice who was an admiral. Guy is no joke
Spaghetti western film Zuko. Our favorite kind of Zuko
Zuko is naturally better than the average firebender, being that he came from the lineage of the royal family of a meritocratic nation based on firebending prowess. This is why he bested Zhao at his age, the royal family is, in a way, bred to be a cut above the rest. That said, he isn’t a prodigy in the same way Azula is; Zuko struggles where Azula just excels.
Zuko 100% is not a prodigy. He has had to work hard, Aulza was naturally good. She's a prodigy.
Azula also trained hard to achieve what she sees as perfection in order to surpass Zuko in everything, but because she is much more cold and is a psychopath, she dominated firebending more easily than Zuko.
What I love about Avatar is that it never lets you view each nation as a monolith, there are horrible people in every nation we visit and good people in the fire nation
When Ursa says "Remember who you are", i saw it as she saying him to stay true to himself , be a good person unlike Ozai.
9:19 "I loved watching you. *That's who you are, Zuko* -> someone who keeps fighting even though it's hard."
I agree with you that Zuko's moment at the end was not a moment of insight and triumph but misinterpretation. mori1bund provided some contextual evidence against this interpretation so let me provide some contextual evidence to support this:
Zuko's response to the Earth guard's question, "who are you?", is "... Fire Nation Prince, son of Firelord Ozai... heir to the throne". Is this the identity that Ursa really wanted Zuko define himself by? Ursa is never shown talking about status or the throne with Zuko but Zuko is still obsessed with these things and can't let them go, just like when he was when he was pouting on his ship saying, "my honor, my throne. I'm about to lose them all" before taking on the Blue Spirit persona in Book 1, and just like when he was on the streets saying, "we're royalty. These people should be giving us whatever we want!" when Iroh was begging for change.
When Ursa tells him that he's "someone who keeps fighting even though it's hard", he demonstrates this on superficial level when he continues to fight the Earth guard but I think his answer to the Earth guard regarding his identity shows that he completely misses the true point about the values that Ursa tried to instill in him; Zuko is constantly struggling between right and wrong and being a force who helps the world and a force who harms the world and he needs to continue fighting (internally as well) against all the negative influences in his life to do the right thing. Zuko has done nothing to fight the influence of Fire Nation indoctrination and recognize that they are the bad guys but instead he doubles down on it when he declares proudly that he is the "son of Firelord Ozai... and heir to the throne", just like when he doubled down by stealing that family's ostrich-horse, and just like when he double-downs by splitting with Iroh when Iroh suggests that catching the Avatar will not solve all of Zuko's problems. The situation shows that while Zuko has made some superficial progress, he still refuses to internalize and accept that the Fire Nation is harming innocent people and thus refusing to fight in his internal struggle against the abusive influences in the Fire Nation.
Note that the moment after Zuko firebends and is shown surrounded by fire isn't depicted in a triumphant positive way like Zuko has made some sort of huge internal progress. Instead, it's depicted in a menacing way with a scowl on Zuko's face while menacing Fire Nation music plays in the background and it shows the child looking upon him in horror and the screen lighting up with the sight of flames reflecting off his eyes. If you only saw this scene, you would think Zuko is the villain by the way he's depicted. Clearly, the creators/artists want viewers to recognize that this isn't a moment of character growth and triumph for Zuko even when externally he's helping these villagers. Indeed this is an important learning opportunity but Zuko at present, he still not ready to learn the lesson, he still has this experience to draw back on next time.
That blade said "Never give up without a fight" It was taken because that earth kingdom general surrendered as soon as they breeched the wall! lol
I actually disagree about Zuko being a prodigy but Azula's just better, he's just put in more effort than most fire benders we see, he's not naturally gifted at all.
Yeah, that's why also I think why his mom not take Zuko because he more privileges as a prince of fire nation rather then go with him.
He also had the benefit of learning from some of the best firebenders of his time.
I do think a lot of what child Azula says must be things she heard her father say and she's repeating them.
I mean she's much too young to have actually come up with half of what she said (like saying her father would make a better king than Iroh, saying that Azulon is old and not "the powerful firelord he used to be", or even that thing about Iroh being a coward for leaving the battlefield after his son's death).
Purely from a writing standpoint this might be the best episode in the series. Learning about how Zuko's relationship with his family shaped who he is now is one of my favorite parts of the series.
Zuko's the real main character of this show.
I saw Lindsay's reaction to the turtle duck scene coming from light years away. 😂
But yeah, very heavy episode. I think Azula's twisted personality can simply be chalked up to her spending a _wee_ bit too much time with her daddy, but it's still pretty disturbing to know that she's been a cruel psychopath from such a young age....
One of my favorite episodes in the show
It's not much better, but I'm pretty sure that was a loaf of bread not a rock.
I'm not a Patron, but I saw the title for the post regarding your cat. Hope all is good
sorry to bother on an unrelated video, but there's no recent JJK-related videos that I know you'd check the comments of; when's the JJK s2 review coming out? need my yapfest!! lol
Episodes like this make me hate the post-series media
Proper.
This episode feels like a western.
Did you guys notice we didnt see any amount of Team Avatar? It was just Zuko, alone.
yup 23:26
Azula is trying to emulate her father. She is also a victim.
Kinda. But childhood doesn't erases crimes and horrible deeds at all. It may attenuet them, but not reset them.
She has responsabilities as a grown up person in positions of power. Not a victim there, but a perpetrator and murderer. She also had psycho tendencies not everything is her father's fault.
idk why Lindsay hates Azula, she is literally top 3 Shonen Girls of all time
That is some HAIRcast or something?
Are we ever going to get a new ep of fruits basket
Will you watck Korra when you're done with ATLA?
Would be kinda cruel to ruin Lindsay's enjoyment of ATLA with the disappointment that is Korra.
@@MrDUneven Korra is amazing, I don’t know what you are on
I hope they watck it 😢
Hopefully not.
@@MrDUneven Korra's only a disappointment if you expect a copy of ATLA, which it's not mean to be, it's more subtle than big bad fire daddy want to burn the world, sure, not necessarily everyone's taste. Seeing how many reactors already enjoyed it, maybe you can stop that ridiculous Korra slander and let them make their own opinion?
4:13 I wish more people would stop eating animals and animal products. Throwing a rock is 10000x less harm than what happens in the industry
🤡🤡🤡 brb im gonna go eat some chicken
Azula always lies
7:39 i dont think that was a made in china joke my guy 💀
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