Why there is no Arab superstate

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    Going by modern metrics, an #Arab superstate would boast a population of 436 million and a GDP of 2.7 trillion USD, ranking 3rd and 7th respectively worldwide. So, why is there no Arab #superstate?
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  • @CaspianReport
    @CaspianReport  Год назад +163

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    • @Netbase2000
      @Netbase2000 Год назад +8

      Music list pls (Song in the beginning minute)

    • @Zeyede_Siyum
      @Zeyede_Siyum Год назад +2

      Make a new video about the root of Ethiopian civil war( ethnic federalism and 1987 constitution)

    • @Netbase2000
      @Netbase2000 Год назад +4

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    • @mint8648
      @mint8648 Год назад

      @@shehzadahmad3945 it depends on the region. egypt had it the worse under the ottomans, mamluk oppression remained in place. syria was relatively prosperous in part due to levantine trade with western europe. iraq stagnated under ottoman rule until the mamluk dynasty came to power, when the area experienced an economic revival. ottomans didn't do much with the hejaz other than ceremonial claims.

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j Год назад

      @@shehzadahmad3945 but then they helped the Europeans carve up the Middle East

  • @harishsrinivasan5249
    @harishsrinivasan5249 Год назад +3863

    "Few political forces are as potent as a sense of lost glory". that sentence deserves an award.

    • @mah6183
      @mah6183 Год назад +211

      Quote worthy, for sure. I’ve felt for a while that the grandchildren of the defeated are among the most dangerous. They heard their grandparent’s stories of lost causes. They feel aggrieved and seek glory, not realizing that it come with a cost.

    • @kilpatrickkirksimmons5016
      @kilpatrickkirksimmons5016 Год назад +137

      Shirvan has at least one poetic banger in every vid.

    • @westrim
      @westrim Год назад

      You don't even have to lose it. By so many metrics, America was doing great in 2016. Improvements could be made, inequalities could be rebalanced, but the causes were known and addressable. Yet along came some huckster proclaiming "Make America Great Again" while pitching policies that would do the opposite, and he got tens of millions to buy in.

    • @phoenix5054
      @phoenix5054 Год назад +39

      Very MAGA feel to me... and it has catapulted a man into the presidency of the most powerful nation.

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai Год назад +14

      @Nisr Masry88 𓅓𓁺𓄿𓁼𓃭𓎦𓏭 𓂝 How about a Pan-Islamic Union?

  • @pjacobsen1000
    @pjacobsen1000 Год назад +3780

    Perhaps the biggest obstacle to unity is what we also see in Europe and Latin America: Who should gain power from a union and who should relinquish power? Everybody wants the first, no one wants the second.

    • @viniciusdomenighi6439
      @viniciusdomenighi6439 Год назад +223

      Brazil is an example of a State that represents the union of several others of the same culture. The USA too. The former Spanish colonies did not have a monarchical force that united them, or a common cause like the USA. In the case of Brazil, it was the separation from Portugal declared by the Brazilian government itself which guaranteed its union to this day.

    • @tooeasyy5287
      @tooeasyy5287 Год назад +97

      we usually figured out who would run shit by who won the war and had the largest military

    • @theodoroseidler7072
      @theodoroseidler7072 Год назад +106

      I see no resemblance to Latin America. Latin America was never one big empire with the same language nor was is ever a single unity stemming from a religion or center of power. South Americas location is far from the main population centers in the world and was never a particularly strategic trade location.
      Brazil has its unique history apart from the rest of Latin America, speaks Portuguese, and is coincidentally christian. It would be expected to have extremely strong ties to the US and Europe, but as there is a strong overlap in the agricultural sector with the US and Europe heavily subsidizes agriculture, Brazil has developed this trade dependency with China, Russia and to a lesser extent, the middle east. Customers on the "other side of the world" literally.
      The large majority of the Spanish speaking countries have the same language and religion, yes, but are ethnically, culturally, geopolitically and economically diverse. In varying degrees, they have the same difficulties to have strong ties with the US and Europe and are also obligated to do a large chunk of their trade with asia.
      Most countries get along with each other very well as there is really very little competition with each other, as like the Arab world, do most of their trading with partners outside of the continent, and mainly in commodities.
      No nation in South America is particularly expansionistic. And most do not seem to have a need to be and borders seem to be very stable as they are.
      MERCOSUL started out with aspirations similar to that of the EU. But I believe its progress has been extremely limited due to the failure of all the countries in the region to embrace free trade, reform the state, drop socialist/populist concepts that disguise systems full of privileges for a few at the expense of the many and the poor. It will only move forward when there is a reward mechanism to propel it forward and that is economic growth.
      This would require a legal system that actually works, eliminate privileges and corruption, reducing taxes, reducing the size o the state, reducing social benefits, massive investments in infrastructure to overcome the regions difficult geography, mass reindustrialization, mass education, massive investment in research, development of hight tech industries in all sectors etc...
      Frankly, stuff for decades which I will not be around to see. If anything I see many countries going in reverse. Even some that are supposedly more developed than others.

    • @StayFreshMyFriends
      @StayFreshMyFriends Год назад +62

      @@basilmagnanimous7011 which is why the current right wing authoritarian threat in the US is so serious and needs to be stopped

    • @Ray-fk4vh
      @Ray-fk4vh Год назад +8

      @@basilmagnanimous7011 tell that to Russia & China

  • @waelamri-qe6cd
    @waelamri-qe6cd Год назад +114

    as an Arab the question is something discussed widely and these are my points:
    1.Centers of Power: the center of the culture, humanity and Financial and Political are Different, Egypt and Saudi arabia each claim it, each with a wildly different Way of rule.
    2. Political differences: the 22 countries each has a wildly different way of rule, from absolute Monarchies to Army centralised governments, affect the ability of creating a union without injustices.
    3. Sectarianism: Arab world is Made up of Sunnis, Shiates and Christians, in which non are able to concede some power.
    4. Colonial Rule and its effects:
    while it could be a cliche to just Blame Colonisation, but its affects in regard of splitting the countries without minding Demographical differences and the Cultural influence they applied to the people they controlled made it worse, either it is by language, cultural or the geopolitical connections they had.
    And lastly as a Yemeni and an arab I feel sad that we are drifting away from each other although our similarities and brotherhood are far greater than our issues and differences

    • @detective_solar
      @detective_solar 6 месяцев назад +1

      🫡

    • @portalsevil
      @portalsevil 6 месяцев назад +1

      what about nations not wanting anything to do with other nations? it's logical

    • @waelamri-qe6cd
      @waelamri-qe6cd 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@portalsevil Yeah but deep down it isnt as ultimate as it is. Logically yes, but the shared traditions, customs, language and religion makes a logical standpoint on whether there should be a united arab state.

    • @detective_solar
      @detective_solar 6 месяцев назад +1

      Like my friend said, and an example of this would be Russia, as it has so many ethnic Mongolians that are living in Siberia, they don't want anything to do with Russia, but there isn't any problems in their life. (OK, excuse me, That was a bad example)@@portalsevil

    • @FATHOLLYWOODB123
      @FATHOLLYWOODB123 6 месяцев назад +5

      I find colonialism an interesting aspect in causing the conflicts In the world. For example the British split India based on religion, and it didn't solve the conflict and some might say it made it worse, there is still disagreement and violence between the Hindus and Muslims even though they have their own countries in India and Pakistan, another example is Ireland, where Northern Ireland had a democratic vote to remain in the UK, which seems like the fairest way to handle the situation, yet there is still conflict and violence after, split along ethnic lines. So it seems like the fairest way for an empire to deal with a situation it has still doesn't solve the conflict. Another example is Sudan, where Sudan is majority Muslim and Arab, but South Sudan was majority African and Christian. If you ask me we need to consider redrawing many of the worlds borders because people just cant seem to get along.

  • @teacupanimates
    @teacupanimates Год назад +137

    As an arab (Egyptian) , i love an actually in depth explanation of this situation bringing the info to the foreigners.

    • @silkycod
      @silkycod Год назад +3

      I know - this motivated me to start creating my own content on Arab/Muslim geopolitics.

    • @wolfthequarrelsome504
      @wolfthequarrelsome504 Год назад +3

      You're a foreigner to us in the west and always will be.

    • @ricardotolbert1797
      @ricardotolbert1797 Год назад +6

      Also I can’t call the countries in Africa the Arab world. Unfortunately for the natives that been there…you’re occupying the land in North Africa.

    • @hymm0
      @hymm0 Год назад +22

      @@wolfthequarrelsome504 everyone is a foreigner in other people's country, nothing worth getting offensive for

    • @norastifler
      @norastifler Год назад +14

      @@ricardotolbert1797 hahahahahaha 😂 sure thing .

  • @Mr_M_History
    @Mr_M_History Год назад +3471

    Finally something more nuanced on the Arabic divide apart from just "religion"

    • @najabs123
      @najabs123 Год назад +165

      Thank you!! The religion excuse is such a lazy argument and completely bareft of historical and political context

    • @najabs123
      @najabs123 Год назад +11

      @UC1XN96HkLlcoy5HwrXxI7eg no there are significant numbers of shias in some of the gulf states and I believe Yemen and Oman as well

    • @Mercury-Wells
      @Mercury-Wells Год назад +30

      😄 saw the title and was just about to smugly pronounce "because they've been at it since Muhammed eightysixed it" but maybe I should watch the vid instead...

    • @Mercury-Wells
      @Mercury-Wells Год назад +11

      @@najabs123 completely?

    • @fabwalk8133
      @fabwalk8133 Год назад +113

      religion plays a big ass role in the anti-state sentiment. people still reject the values on which modern states are based. secularism is the obvious example.

  • @nocturnenugget
    @nocturnenugget Год назад +1077

    "Arabs, have become states, without a nation"
    Yeah, as an Arab, yeah, that hit hard

    • @Mohtellawi
      @Mohtellawi Год назад +33

      True, it hits deep.

    • @kevinyonan2147
      @kevinyonan2147 Год назад +76

      that doesn't make sense though, no two Arabs are the same. Maghrebi and Egyptian Arabs aren't the same blood, heritage, or history as Iraqi/Kuwaiti Arabs.

    • @Mohtellawi
      @Mohtellawi Год назад +204

      @@kevinyonan2147
      They are the same
      I am Palestinian, I was born at Jordan, and I've been living at Algeria for the past 6 years.
      The similarities amongst Arabs are far more than the differences, we speak the same language, we share the same history, we have the same religion, we have the same troubles and we hold very similar traditions.

    • @kevinyonan2147
      @kevinyonan2147 Год назад +70

      @@Mohtellawi that's not true actually. Palestinian Arabs and Jordanian Arabs are similar but you're still not similar to Maghrebi, Misreen, or Iraqi Arabs.

    • @hkmyk
      @hkmyk Год назад +60

      ​@@kevinyonan2147 the differences and simalrities amongs arab throughout the Arab worls are comparable to the differences and simalrities among differen regions in tthe same contry!
      I found it wierd to consider me (northeren Yemeni Arab) different than other Arab in Moroco, but similler to another Arab from south Yemen!
      these division are totally arbitrary!

  • @thedudeabides3138
    @thedudeabides3138 Год назад +52

    I’m so grateful to have come across this amazing channel in the last year and I feel like it informs me without bias, thank you for all the work you do.

    • @anton.069
      @anton.069 Год назад +2

      "without bias", lol

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 Год назад +61

    Interesting. The final quote, "A nation without a state and states without a nation" makes a lot of sense. I think there will have to be a secular state based out of Egypt and an Islamist state based out of Arabia or Iran. The victor of Arabia-Iran is going to be important.

  • @CliffCardi
    @CliffCardi Год назад +332

    Sykes: “How should we divide up the Ottoman Empire…….Straight line?”
    Picot: “Straight line.”

    • @anon2427
      @anon2427 Год назад +2

      @@aqeel-3771 you’re either lying for the meme, completely misinformed, or delusional

    • @sugargay7168
      @sugargay7168 Год назад +26

      @@anon2427 or he was making a joke

    • @rave.201
      @rave.201 Год назад +8

      oversimplified references

    • @Nygaard2
      @Nygaard2 Год назад +1

      Imagine if they had done this at the Peace of Westphalia...

    • @CliffCardi
      @CliffCardi Год назад +3

      @@Nygaard2 imagine if they did that after the 7 years war.

  • @slappy8941
    @slappy8941 Год назад +1275

    The ability to build a great nation and rise to superpower status requires more than just population, territory, or resources; it requires vision, unity, determination, and a belief in the possibility of something better.

    • @JMAssainatorz
      @JMAssainatorz Год назад +95

      It requires a shared identity, reliability to facilitate trust and a shared vission.

    • @ultraali453
      @ultraali453 Год назад

      Unfortunately, our easy-going Muslim people generally scoff at such thinking. and because of the corruption in our governments and lack of vision, the idealists and visionaries go and join sectarian groups instead. Lack of quality education is the primary issue.

    • @slappy8941
      @slappy8941 Год назад +39

      @@JMAssainatorzYes, shared identity is important, But ultimately we can only identify with so many people on certain scales. I think it's more important to have unifying beliefs.

    • @nirvanic3610
      @nirvanic3610 Год назад +14

      And islam will prevail, God willed it.

    • @CHMichael
      @CHMichael Год назад +5

      Tolerance

  • @infoscholar5221
    @infoscholar5221 Год назад +9

    Succinct analysis set to haunting music and well-chosen video bytes. Top-notch channel. I have a Master's in Poli-Sci, and I admire the depth of information that is so effectively condensed into "Why Do I Care?" segments. Great stuff.

  • @deepdemairy2846
    @deepdemairy2846 Год назад +61

    This dream is still present in the hearts of the Arab peoples, one day it will come true, either smoothly or by force

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 6 месяцев назад +4

      No lmao, what are you saying? The Arab oil states would never want to merge. Moroccans and Algeria's together? We would also import eachother's problems: all those minorities and religious sects. Nah, thanks.

    • @moharshad6882
      @moharshad6882 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@houseplant1016true, right now it would be impossible, but it will happen in the future

    • @TestBot4231
      @TestBot4231 17 дней назад

      The rich Arab states despise the poor ones. They don't want to mix with you and take on your problems. That is what you are to them PROBLEMS.
      They are happy with thier quality of life, will not risk losing what they have.

    • @souheilmoudarres6488
      @souheilmoudarres6488 9 дней назад

      @@houseplant1016you didn’t read? He said smoothly or by force. The truth is that unity is the only way for our survival whether you see it or not, and we are running out of time to debate comfortably as we get picked off by the rest of the world one by one.

  • @Phrenotopia
    @Phrenotopia Год назад +891

    The Arab world as '"States without a nation" is the kind of beautifully powerful summary we're used to from this channel. Bravo!

    • @jasminekaram880
      @jasminekaram880 Год назад +70

      I disagree with that, Egyptians have a nation as do Moroccan and these deeper roots than the Arab invasion.
      Pan-Arabist is a flawed construct.

    • @ahmadfrhan5265
      @ahmadfrhan5265 Год назад +2

      The UN is highly western based and most of world countries from Asia to Africa to eastern Europe to south America refuse LGBTQ refuse feminism refuses the banking system refuses the modern slavery ( salve wage ) refuses western subjective vales ,but yet they push it on all of us. using utilitarianism then the west shouldn't be pushing their values on the majority and the majority can take down the west. that's why in political science there's a famous quote " the liberal global order is neither liberal nor global " ( meaning only western based and other countries don't anticipate on it or they will be sanctioned and fought by the west ). also, this is by definition slavery because they tell us what to do and if we refuse, they punish us , starve us or kill us and we have to follow them when they are the minority. so utilitarianism doesn't work and they are enslaving us.
      what am trying to say is this system is belt on hypocrisy and when Objective moral people start to realize than they will take action and subjectisim will have no answer when the objective moral people start action and they can't say it's " good or bad ".
      even if objective moral people did wrong the subjective people can't prove it's wrong since it's all subjective.
      even so atheist can't prove what's good or bad in all topics other than morality. for example, an atheist says to someone you are Bac-kward and that someone says is being Back- ward good or bad ? here they can't really answer. they can't prove being whatever is good or bad. and so on and so on.
      what am literally saying now will change the world perception and the moral people will take action. it's inevitable.
      one thing else if they don't have the concept of good or bad of any subject other than morality that means it has no value ( worthless ).
      for example, asking an atheist is science good or bad ? if he/she did reply with good and bad they can't prove it therefore, it's subjective and has no value at all since they don't have the concept of Good and bad.
      therefore, all their " facts" ( which are hypothesis not facts ) are worthless if it has no value ( good and bad ).
      they can't detect which is fact and not if they don't hold on any value and even if they did they can't prove it since it's subjective.
      We live in a world that ran by subjective people who can't prove their value or the value of anything and can't prove even their subjectivsim and it's value! Yet they have the audacity to tell us what's good or bad and what's valuable and not and what's true and not.
      also brain is nothing but an organ according to their world view which means they cannot base anything on it and it's all chemical reactions which delude itself on having meaning when there's non which means all their claims as their existence worthless meaningless and untrue. which means they argue for nothing.....

    • @ahmadfrhan5265
      @ahmadfrhan5265 Год назад +1

      add also, that all countries are consumers to the west ( the producer ) and that is why the west is always rich because they refuse other countries to produce their own products or their own weapons because with that money comes then influence comes and they refuse that and that's why they attack and sanction too. unfortunately , we are the playground of superpowers. the west even without Islam rising is digging their own grave since they barely have any children. with Islam they will be annihilated by our raising alone and they will fall easily. if they use nukes , then they will have to live like rats in grounds for the rest of their existence ( that if earth survived ). they will not use it because they stand for nothing therefore, they will not go to that ever.

    • @ricaard6959
      @ricaard6959 Год назад

      What does that mean? If you don't mind me asking.

    • @Dmytro_Kuts
      @Dmytro_Kuts Год назад +1

      @@ahmadfrhan5265 same in post soviet brother. Just eastern european aerospace engineer student who tries to understand why eastern europe is not good and how to make it better

  • @richbattaglia5350
    @richbattaglia5350 Год назад +424

    “Pride is not the opposite of shame, but the source of it. True humility is the only antidote to shame.”
    -General Iroh
    This would not be a bad place to start.

    • @dmeads5663
      @dmeads5663 Год назад +24

      Funny thing is that pride is the one thing God hates most in the Bible.

    • @dylangtech
      @dylangtech Год назад +16

      @@dmeads5663 Most beloved character in cartoons. The character depth and worldbuilding in that show was insane

    • @sieda666
      @sieda666 Год назад

      Easier said than done for sure. Right now even more historically stable states are having trouble with "pride" in a romanticized idyllic past destabilizing them in the face of the rapid changes over the course of the 21st.

    • @Newbmann
      @Newbmann Год назад +15

      Funny finding a avatar refrence here.
      But somehow also logical in context.

    • @emmanuelrufai6471
      @emmanuelrufai6471 Год назад +1

      @@dylangtech lol what do you know 😆

  • @JFLehr
    @JFLehr 8 месяцев назад +7

    As someone who recently found this channel, I just want to say that the great critical thinking & consideration shown in every video is such a refreshing change of pace compared to the tik-tok style of content so prevalent these days. Also narration + visuals are amazing... Anyways, just leaving a comment to help beat the algorithm lol

  • @katzensindweich3505
    @katzensindweich3505 Год назад

    Nice one. Ty CR. Production value is off the charts!

  • @johnsMITHhhhhh88
    @johnsMITHhhhhh88 Год назад +439

    A superstate can only have one leader, and expecting the rest to just give up power will never happen

    • @azahel542
      @azahel542 Год назад +89

      Exactly, it's like a hydra with many heads, each wanting to be the leader and biting the others.

    • @co2_os
      @co2_os Год назад +25

      Yeah it's seems like the only why to unite is through a great war, which nobody wants, I hope.

    • @Sir_Godz
      @Sir_Godz Год назад

      especially if the base system of governance is a dictatorship and a policy of religious dogma.

    • @michaelpettersson4919
      @michaelpettersson4919 Год назад

      This is why the European Union has become more and more authoritarian lately.

    • @ahmadfrhan5265
      @ahmadfrhan5265 Год назад +1

      The UN is highly western based and most of world countries from Asia to Africa to eastern Europe to south America refuse LGBTQ refuse feminism refuses the banking system refuses the modern slavery ( salve wage ) refuses western subjective vales ,but yet they push it on all of us. using utilitarianism then the west shouldn't be pushing their values on the majority and the majority can take down the west. that's why in political science there's a famous quote " the liberal global order is neither liberal nor global " ( meaning only western based and other countries don't anticipate on it or they will be sanctioned and fought by the west ). also, this is by definition slavery because they tell us what to do and if we refuse, they punish us , starve us or kill us and we have to follow them when they are the minority. so utilitarianism doesn't work and they are enslaving us.
      what am trying to say is this system is belt on hypocrisy and when Objective moral people start to realize than they will take action and subjectisim will have no answer when the objective moral people start action and they can't say it's " good or bad ".
      even if objective moral people did wrong the subjective people can't prove it's wrong since it's all subjective.
      even so atheist can't prove what's good or bad in all topics other than morality. for example, an atheist says to someone you are Bac-kward and that someone says is being Back- ward good or bad ? here they can't really answer. they can't prove being whatever is good or bad. and so on and so on.
      what am literally saying now will change the world perception and the moral people will take action. it's inevitable.
      one thing else if they don't have the concept of good or bad of any subject other than morality that means it has no value ( worthless ).
      for example, asking an atheist is science good or bad ? if he/she did reply with good and bad they can't prove it therefore, it's subjective and has no value at all since they don't have the concept of Good and bad.
      therefore, all their " facts" ( which are hypothesis not facts ) are worthless if it has no value ( good and bad ).
      they can't detect which is fact and not if they don't hold on any value and even if they did they can't prove it since it's subjective.
      We live in a world that ran by subjective people who can't prove their value or the value of anything and can't prove even their subjectivsim and it's value! Yet they have the audacity to tell us what's good or bad and what's valuable and not and what's true and not.
      also brain is nothing but an organ according to their world view which means they cannot base anything on it and it's all chemical reactions which delude itself on having meaning when there's non which means all their claims as their existence worthless meaningless and untrue. which means they argue for nothing.....

  • @RedSoxFanatic4Life
    @RedSoxFanatic4Life Год назад +188

    The question preventing the formation of an Arab superstate is this: who would be its leader? It’s difficult to get the leader of any nation to voluntarily give up their power to another, especially when those leaders believe that ruling is their God-given right.

    • @djcoopes7569
      @djcoopes7569 Год назад +11

      a council of equal nations with an alphabetically rotating chair. Each nation of the Arabian-Persian Union would send a diplomat in, similar to the current UN ambassador system. each year (or every X years) the next nation in line's ambassador to the APU would be the chairman of the Union

    • @selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982
      @selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982 Год назад

      who is the leader of the world or UN?

    • @djcoopes7569
      @djcoopes7569 Год назад +10

      @@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982 the UNSC

    • @bobbyben6134
      @bobbyben6134 Год назад +12

      Sometimes people mixed up Islamic expansion & Arab state. Completely different

    • @itsame2271
      @itsame2271 Год назад

      Shukri Al-Quwatli already gave up his democratic presidency for the greater good. He was a good man, but Nasser didn’t appreciate the sacrifices Syria made for the unity and he made a shit hole out of Syria.

  • @Danger-Tater
    @Danger-Tater Год назад +35

    It's good to see a non heavily propagated version of this story since I was born and raised in jordan and this story was told to me in a very biased way with a lot of details missing like how Egypt and syria were together, this was never taught to us in school so keep up the good work!

    • @moinmoin2720
      @moinmoin2720 Год назад +1

      Hey just out of curiosity could you tell me/us more about how it was taught to you and maybe your own personal opinion?

    • @Danger-Tater
      @Danger-Tater Год назад +6

      @@moinmoin2720 pretty sure it was in 12th grade when they stopped teaching about Europian, our history in the middle ages and random civilizations and began teaching us about our own recent history and if i remember correctly the united arab republic was mentioned but in like half a page's worth and nothing was about how jordan and iraq tried to to the same with their alliance as a response and how the iraq coup was made by loyalists to the Egyptians just to name a few details that were hidden by our school books and my personal opinion:
      I just want to leave this failed, paranoid society in any way possible, a society that thinks everything happening is about them like how every action taken by America is to undermine the arabian world, they are undermining them selves no one cares enough or has the resources to do that.

  • @NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
    @NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek 7 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant Insights and Analysis!!!

  • @archipiratta
    @archipiratta Год назад +566

    I would love to see a similarly nuanced take on sub-Saharan Africa which is often viewed as a monolith but contains many fascinating undercurrents

    • @JcLazy1
      @JcLazy1 Год назад +15

      Honestly. I used to complain about that but it's where the money is. Muslims and those other groups pay these RUclipsrs to make these videos. So if we want more on sub Saharan African videos we gotta put money up which we don't.

    • @brianbelobrajdic6160
      @brianbelobrajdic6160 Год назад +1

      L

    • @rnnfds7042
      @rnnfds7042 Год назад +35

      @@JcLazy1 I don't think this Caspian report is corrupt, almost all of their videos take a very moderate stance, for a good example look at the video on the Armenia Azerbaijan war. I don't think anyone is directly paying for this video.

    • @Kenionatus
      @Kenionatus Год назад +25

      @@JcLazy1 I agree superficially with you. There most likely is less money in a video about Sub Saharan Africa compared to one on Pan Arabism, but not because of people literally paying them to argue for certain points. There is just less of an audience for it. Less audience means less add watch time, less sponsorship money and less patreons gained.

    • @JcLazy1
      @JcLazy1 Год назад +12

      @@Kenionatus I am stating what you Said from the first half. Not the second. I am not stating anybody is paying money to push an agenda or way of thinking. If it came of cross like that. I didnt mean to offend Muslims or any group. I am just saying certain demographics of kings and general, caspain and etc, don't want to watch sub Sahara Africa. I can't fault them. I fault sub Sahara for not supporting financially in some sort of making their own channel or this channel.

  • @hikodzu
    @hikodzu Год назад +116

    "hey let's unite"
    "Yes"
    "Yes"
    "Yea"
    "Ok then, who's the leader?"
    "Me ofc"
    "Mee!"
    "Me obvs"
    Basically bcs of this

    • @RazorsharpLT
      @RazorsharpLT Год назад

      Yeah, these idiots can't just do a fucking federation like the EU
      They're a lot more similar in everything than the different European countries, yet they are more disjointed lmao

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa Год назад +3

      It's same old, that's the reason eu worked out because at least on the surface it appears to have common leadership. Besides, leadership in mena region has a tendency to censor everyone which makes interchanged of solutions impossible.

    • @wokeaf1337
      @wokeaf1337 Год назад +8

      EU does rotate the leadership every 6 months or so, that is how they resolved that issue.

    • @mandranmagelan9430
      @mandranmagelan9430 Год назад

      lol

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 Год назад

      Lmao

  • @AJ-et3vf
    @AJ-et3vf Год назад

    Awesome video! Thank you!

  • @HeLlBoYY12
    @HeLlBoYY12 7 месяцев назад

    Fantastic video, thank you❤

  • @BlackR65
    @BlackR65 Год назад +994

    Shirvan overestimates the role of geography, but doesn't mention the mentality and diversity of political systems in the Arab world.
    Egyptians will not let Syrians rule over them and Saudi Monarchs will not let Moroccan Monarchs over their country. You have monarchies, dictatorships and some kind of sectarian democracies in this countries, where it is simply impossible to gather everybody under one banner. Whether ther is Israel or some desert between them plays a lesser role.

    • @alejandrogarcia7385
      @alejandrogarcia7385 Год назад

      Arabs hasn't had unity after Gamal Abdul Nasser death

    • @ranjithvurs1086
      @ranjithvurs1086 Год назад +35

      I don't think so...
      Geography plays major role not mindset

    • @georgepapapostolou5992
      @georgepapapostolou5992 Год назад +153

      @@ranjithvurs1086 Geography is the founding father of mindset.

    • @BlackR65
      @BlackR65 Год назад +39

      @@ranjithvurs1086 Then tell me why does Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Bahrain have a monarchy, but Egypt, Syria, and Iraq not? How is the political system influenced through geography?

    • @alejandrogarcia7385
      @alejandrogarcia7385 Год назад +21

      @@ranjithvurs1086 Nasser was able to unify state so differents like Syria and Yemen. Plus, his leadership wasn't doubted in the Arab world. After his death, nobody has been able to do the same

  • @Ptoly
    @Ptoly 6 месяцев назад

    Very well done and truthful video!

  • @elasticoGomez
    @elasticoGomez Год назад +2

    This channel is one of the best content creators on the internet. No question

  • @MBBurchette
    @MBBurchette Год назад +163

    Imagine Muqtada al-Sadr, Abdel al-Sisi, Bashir Assad, Mahmoud Abbas, and MBS debating each other in a parliament…I can’t do it.
    The subsequent civil war would be epic.

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa Год назад +35

      LOL, it could be a business thou: insted of a parliament it would be a boxing ring and insted of civil war it would be a show. It would make a lot of money.

    • @justgivemethetruth
      @justgivemethetruth Год назад +1

      LOL, right on!

    • @oualidbdf
      @oualidbdf Год назад +1

      @Nisr Masry88 𓅓𓁺𓄿𓁼𓃭𓎦𓏭 𓂝 imagine lne currency and free travel throughout the Arab world.. I hope..

    • @Sawil24
      @Sawil24 Год назад

      @@puraLusa who you taking in the ring? 🤣👀

  • @francisnwanze8272
    @francisnwanze8272 Год назад +88

    " Arabs have become a state without a nation" is really a good way to describe the current state of affairs in the Arab world today 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @Lottoboi100
    @Lottoboi100 Год назад

    This video is very informative thank you

  • @albashir7140
    @albashir7140 5 месяцев назад

    That was a brilliant n well researched report ❤ thank you

  • @Mixcoatl
    @Mixcoatl Год назад +123

    7:56 - Correction: it was the United States and Egypt that forced the UK, France, and Israel to withdraw, not just Egypt on its own.

    • @danielhunter6059
      @danielhunter6059 Год назад +15

      Yea from what I’ve seen Israel had secured the Sinai peninsula and Gaza at the end of that war

    • @zaraletoustre4556
      @zaraletoustre4556 Год назад +31

      We can also add the USSR which clearly expressed its opposition to the Franco-Anglo-Israeli maneuvers.

    • @baranzenovich
      @baranzenovich Год назад +26

      Egypt couldn't force anything against the other three, only the US intervention forced them to retreat

    • @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
      @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns Год назад +8

      @@zaraletoustre4556 yes, I was about to say. If there was no Soviet pressure, there would be no US pressure (Nasser had not yet aligned with the Soviet Union). Hence, Britain, France and Israel would still rule over the Suez if there were no pressure from the Soviet Union.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 Год назад +24

      Yeah, that was a standout error. The day the US and the Soviets taught Britain and France they were second rate powers.

  • @Fightme1v1
    @Fightme1v1 Год назад +126

    "Few political forces are as potent as a sense of lost glory." Brexit summarised.

    • @anthonyowens6446
      @anthonyowens6446 Год назад

      No it isn’t, if Merkels population replacement hasn’t happened the UK would still be in the EU

    • @richbattaglia5350
      @richbattaglia5350 Год назад

      Who wants to be bent over like one of EU’s bitches?

    • @shaunstakiw2722
      @shaunstakiw2722 Год назад +4

      Lost glory is a staple of fascist rhetoric.

    • @knightf8648
      @knightf8648 Год назад

      @@shaunstakiw2722 well... Looking beyond rhetoric, it's very effective one. Chinese are now fucking up with US led world order and civilised world can't do anything. May i know which part of world you are from?

  • @Jojobreez
    @Jojobreez Год назад

    Beautiful presentation!!

  • @MooseBme
    @MooseBme Год назад

    !Wow, well said and done, thanks

  • @MrAndyshanahan
    @MrAndyshanahan Год назад +65

    Nicely condensed and connected. You hit all the necessary points - and left out the not quite so necessary deftly. Great work as usual, thank you.

    • @eavocado5890pppj
      @eavocado5890pppj Год назад +2

      I was just very disappointed he did not mention the GCC

  • @anonymityismyname
    @anonymityismyname Год назад +181

    I love how much I learn about things I never knew watching CR's videos. I'd like to think I follow politics and history a lot but I always learn new things or new perspectives I never knew existed. 10/10 again sir!

    • @Zara-T_780
      @Zara-T_780 Год назад +4

      Keep up your search for knowledge. Caspian report makes decent videos but he is prone to bias, omission of information and in some cases blatant mistakes.
      He’s a decent source with interesting videos but not the geopolitical messiah many in the comments section make him out to be

    • @bevanml
      @bevanml Год назад +3

      @@Zara-T_780 those who decry bias in someone are usually incredibly biased themselves.

    • @dekaaizer2550
      @dekaaizer2550 Год назад

      @@Zara-T_780 can you give me one example of a yt channel that is more neutral that CR?

    • @Zara-T_780
      @Zara-T_780 Год назад

      Perun is a good one that deals with certain geopolitics.
      Academy of ideas is one of the best channels on this platform. Not geopolitics related though

    • @Zara-T_780
      @Zara-T_780 Год назад

      @@dekaaizer2550 shirvans biases became very obvious on his Armenia/Azerbaijan video.

  • @bassam481991
    @bassam481991 Год назад

    Very accurate. Thank you

  • @parasf2984
    @parasf2984 11 месяцев назад

    Beautifully explained

  • @destroyersaiyan
    @destroyersaiyan Год назад +34

    "Geography is no friend to Arad world"
    Laughs in Oil money

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa Год назад +7

      Oil money can actually be a curse. Saudi is very dependant on oil price and the refining corporation. Other country it's just necessary to find oil to start having "insurgent problems", a great example is mozbique cause oil exporters end up messing with these to control and monopolize the biz. Way better to have a geography based on industry and ideas and trade. That's what made the past empires in the region - they were big traders and industrial: they wanted peace to sell their items in a competing market.

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa Год назад

      @4K 40FPS we don't know as economics thruout the world is oil dependant. But probably more criative as one needs to find a source of income.

    • @Mlmylji
      @Mlmylji Год назад

      @@puraLusa Saudi is actually aiming to not be dependent on oil (I think the plan is called 2030) so let's hope that works

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa Год назад

      @@Mlmylji the 2030 plan is not working as intended. Having a diplomatic scandals and being a totalitarian regime are incompatible with the vision presented.

  • @Handle0108
    @Handle0108 Год назад +798

    Internal trade is needed first, after that the economies of different Arab regions will have to be slowly lifted to be of a somewhat comparable level once again. Then Union should be proposed and started like the EU where each country is independent but strongly integrated with the rest. Finally, a federation should be started which unites the different countries into one states but with autonomy.
    This is a long process and will be difficult but in the end it will be very much worth it.

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa Год назад +66

      Yes u r right but here lies the problem: they don't want to loose power and economics is power.

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 Год назад +31

      The problem is that with a Union like the EU other already fragiele Arab states like Algeria or Egypt would be in more danger because of countries like Lebanon or Tunisia or Yemen....

    • @MrBASShunt3r
      @MrBASShunt3r Год назад

      I like your idea but it unrealistic unfortunately.
      Arabs hate each other as much as they hate the western world.

    • @Dani-zh5lx
      @Dani-zh5lx Год назад +8

      read about the GCC they are already doing that but was not mentioned in the video.

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 Год назад +46

      @@Dani-zh5lx The GCC is nothing like the EU, it is just an organisation to counter Iranian influence.

  • @DiabeticDawg
    @DiabeticDawg Год назад

    Great overview

  • @BD-vc2oz
    @BD-vc2oz Год назад

    Very useful video

  • @JunaidKhan-pq8ji
    @JunaidKhan-pq8ji Год назад +71

    Always a good Monday when I see a Caspian Report by our host, Shivran. Top content.

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw Год назад +1

      He thinks Africa is Arab. How is this top content

    • @JunaidKhan-pq8ji
      @JunaidKhan-pq8ji Год назад +2

      @@John-pk9rw North Africa*

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw Год назад +1

      @@JunaidKhan-pq8ji North Africa is in Africa. Hence why it’s called North AFRICA. Not North Arabia.

    • @sicksaga007
      @sicksaga007 Год назад +4

      @@John-pk9rw Your comment sounds so stupid. Arab countries are those which speak Arabic language. And a good number of those countries are situated in Africa.

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw Год назад +2

      @@sicksaga007 1) Senegal, Congo, Cote d’ivoir, Cameroon etc speak French. Are those countries French? Try again 2) I’m from Morocco and I can’t speak Arabic. Try again.

  • @ruidadgmailcanada8508
    @ruidadgmailcanada8508 Год назад +70

    I learned about and appreciate this region much more in your 16 minute video than in hours of History classes.

    • @hyperceptional
      @hyperceptional Год назад

      Seriously, actually 100% seriously. Yes.

    • @silkycod
      @silkycod Год назад

      100% - It was this video in particular that motivated me to start my content on the geopolitics on the Arab world.

  • @nikolacekic6317
    @nikolacekic6317 Год назад

    Amazing content

  • @sidbarrack7938
    @sidbarrack7938 Год назад

    I love that for the music you chose a version of « ghariba nass » which translates to « people are weird »

  • @joaquimb.369
    @joaquimb.369 Год назад +60

    The quality of your videos is OUTRAGEOUS!
    Great work as always, and the writing is getting ever better. A good follow up would be a video on the challenges for Latin America (or just south america) integration and the "IIRSA" plan. In fact, I would love to see more of LA on the channel. Cheers!

  • @saturn724
    @saturn724 Год назад +499

    I agree with some of the points, however the idea that it's a geographical problem is a bit strange. Past Muslim empires governed all those regions together no problem, that's before the existence of modern transport/communication. Also imo, it's not so much about a Muslim failure as much as it's about Western success, success in strategically dividing the region and establishing Israel. The middle east has been potent in spawning Muslim empires for almost 1300 years straight. The 20th-21st century is the first time it has failed to do so since ~700 AD. This is partly thanks to the industrial revolution which pushed the West light years ahead of the Muslim world. With such huge power gap, implementing insurance policies against potential future rivalry becomes easy.

    • @mozlemboi4690
      @mozlemboi4690 Год назад

      Honestly, he did a pretty good job going over the Arab failures, but I feel as though after a while an Arab superstate stopped really be arab and started really being more of an Islamic superstate. The point though is that after WW1 western influence has divided and continues to divide us today. Isreal, American puppets, American intervention, Russian puppets, French influence in Africa. I mean there's literally a handbook for the CIA on how to keep the Arab world divided. Though I've got a good deal of hope for Turkey they've been doing a good job of keeping up sharia and staving off secularism.

    • @osamadamarany5994
      @osamadamarany5994 Год назад +21

      That would sum up my reply, because the first half of the video has many misleading and false statements that only say that the presenter just doesn't know.

    • @davebrayfb
      @davebrayfb Год назад

      Yes, there is a very simple reason why an Arab Super-state does not exist. The US & Israel do not want one. Just like they don't want a Palestinian state united between the West Bank & Gaza. Divide, conqueror & rule.

    • @mariacheebandidos7183
      @mariacheebandidos7183 Год назад +68

      one of the biggest barrier to growth and development, is the tendency to readily blame others for your shortcomings and incompetences.
      if you are not being held down by physical force, then you have yourself to blame for being down.

    • @saturn724
      @saturn724 Год назад +60

      @@mariacheebandidos7183 I realize that this is true in some cases, and it may be true to some extent here as well, but there's only so much that can be done when the power gap is this huge. Even in the early days of Islam's establishment, it could have not grown nearly as much if the Roman or Persian empires weren't already dwindling.
      The Iranian revolution in 1979 was one potential movement that could have pushed the region out of Western control, but it wasn't successful because, again, there's a huge power gap.
      China managed to become a rival because the West dropped their guard on them, there wasn't nearly as much worry or expectation that they could reach this stage. If the West knew where China could be things would have been done differently. The Hong Kong, Uyghur and Taiwan propaganda all came out very recently, too little too late.

  • @johnsonsmith3421
    @johnsonsmith3421 Год назад

    Wonderful video

  • @melhoniy1
    @melhoniy1 Год назад

    Great job

  • @codycarter6389
    @codycarter6389 Год назад +74

    There is a famous Arab saying that goes "Arabs agreed to never agree"

    • @vikingsailorboy
      @vikingsailorboy Год назад +12

      Yes, very uncompromising people (in everything)

    • @canaanite23
      @canaanite23 Год назад +2

      How is that said ? If you could write it in Latin letters. I know one Arab friends told that is some like "Arab Jarab", which I think means like Arabs is a fight/mass/violence

    • @darknessLordCC
      @darknessLordCC Год назад

      @@canaanite23 No it doesn’t mean that. Jarab in Arabic means scabies; a very contiguous skin disease. That saying is believed to be originated from the Turks when they were ruling over massive lands of the Arabic world because they see themselves of higher level than the arabs as to say don’t deal with the arabs as you don’t deal with a person infected with scabies.
      “Arabs agreed to never agree” is just a satirical saying by the common people of the Arab world, although we know sometimes satire has some deep truth within it. In Arabic it is “Ettafag ala’arb a’ala alla yattafigo”. (a’a refers to the Arabic letter ع as in the name Ali).

    • @canaanite23
      @canaanite23 Год назад

      @@darknessLordCC
      Ohh wow thank you so much for clearing that one out for me. So It's actually a racial slur. And for the saying, I might be able to surprise my friend 😜

    • @Ibaaz33
      @Ibaaz33 Год назад

      @@jubasniper254ck3 اتفقوا العرب على ان لا يتفقوا.

  • @alexradnitz5395
    @alexradnitz5395 Год назад +10

    Thank you for your great work in bringing context to the world.

  • @Bolognabeef
    @Bolognabeef Год назад +5

    9:40 Sinai wasn't owned by Egypt at that time, but by Israel, who defeated the entire Arab league alone

  • @zuesadam7143
    @zuesadam7143 Год назад

    Very good video

  • @pieterjan29
    @pieterjan29 Год назад +80

    "Why there is no Arab superstate"
    Because the same problem happens over and over again for over a milenia.
    WHO'S GONNA RULE IT.

    • @mooripo
      @mooripo Год назад +1

      Federation

    • @efraim6960
      @efraim6960 Год назад +6

      me

    • @al3ndlib
      @al3ndlib Год назад +9

      Not only that, but why would I as a Saudi citizen would want to spread the wealth of my country with punch of poor Arab countries who never shared their wealth in the past with the Arabian peninsula. Rest assured that if any of those oil fields were outside the gulf no one would care enough to even consider us as an equal Arab let alone be part of their superstate.

    • @coolperson4582
      @coolperson4582 Год назад

      @@mrbilter83 not just arabs, no one wants to share their wealth

    • @ewoudalliet1734
      @ewoudalliet1734 Год назад +8

      @@al3ndlib
      "Rest assured that if any of those oil fields were outside the gulf no one would care enough to even consider us as an equal Arab let alone be part of their superstate."
      Saudi-Arabia and other Arabian states barely received any Syrian refugees.
      Countries like Lebanon took in so many refugees that nearly a quarter of their population is a Syrian refugee.
      Unstable countries like Iraq even took in refugees. As did Jordania and Egypt.
      Distant non-Arab countries in Europe took in a bunch of them too. So did Turkey, which took in a whopping >3 million.
      I get where you're coming from, but let's be honest: Saudi-Arabia is beyond selfish. It also rarely contributes to humanitarian aid, whilst even poorer countries do.
      Meanwhile, they still have a king that owns how many cars, how many palaces, how many...? And the migrants they do allow are treated as slaves. The money they have besides that is invested in propaganda (on social media), skyscrapers and other architectural stunts, hiring art etc. to draw Western tourists, as they need a source of income and the oil is pretty much gone; or in the Cold War they're fighting with Iran/Shia factions.
      "who never shared their wealth in the past with the Arabian peninsula."
      Are you sure? Because when a muslim (and most Arabs are muslims) goes to Mecca for his mandatory pilgrimage. Do you think he comes empty-handed? That's just one example.

  • @jcronin3155
    @jcronin3155 Год назад +5

    Thank you. A timely video on an interesting subject away from other media driven subjects.

  • @bylobat6822
    @bylobat6822 Год назад +5

    As an arab seeing this try and fail each time is so painful

  • @mahanyazdani2757
    @mahanyazdani2757 Год назад

    Just found your channel. It's the only worthy and useful and well made political program i know of, and watch, and thank you for that.

  • @davidmizak4642
    @davidmizak4642 Год назад +15

    This is really interesting material. I appreciate the effort you put into providing it. Many thanks!

    • @eavocado5890pppj
      @eavocado5890pppj Год назад

      I was just disappointed he did not mention the GCC

  • @cnlbenmc
    @cnlbenmc Год назад +60

    One of the Big ones I heard of was nobody could agree on who would run such a conglomeration and internal bickering quickly set in.

    • @cjclark1208
      @cjclark1208 Год назад +1

      That will always be the case, it is human nature.

    • @nassimabed
      @nassimabed Год назад +2

      one Palestinian islamist refers to Arab kings and presidents as the "security guards" appointed by the colonial west to maintain the divisions.

    • @tayduatrinhcoi
      @tayduatrinhcoi Год назад +2

      Exactly what the Ottomans found out.

    • @micha2909
      @micha2909 Год назад

      That's why India, Brazil, the US and the EU are democracies so people can choose who to run them.

    • @nassimabed
      @nassimabed Год назад

      @@micha2909 except that in the US, there is no correlation at all between voters' opinion and what is actually legislated as law. There's published research on this. The power of lobbying groups has rendered democracy in the US a farce and no more than a popularity contest with no implications on the legislative.

  • @TheJo201
    @TheJo201 7 месяцев назад +2

    The illusion of Unity. They Don’t Trust each other.

  • @chedlybenazizi6991
    @chedlybenazizi6991 7 месяцев назад +5

    I think the problem with dealing with this topic is that generally it doesn't take into consideration the cultural difference between arabs. First of all, all arabs don't speak the same "language". Generally middle easterners don't understand northern african arabic and the latter only understand the former due to their cultural influence (namely movies and tv series). And that begs the question of what other differences there are in the arab world and can they be clustered. I believe there are 3 major clusters. The Maghreb, Egypt and the Levant and finally Arabia. When you study the arab history generally you are told about what happens in Egypt and the Levant, where the capitals of major arab caliphates were and later under the firm rule of the Ottomans. The Maghreb had an kingdom independent from the caliphs in the middles since the middle ages and ottoman rule in Algeria and Tunisia was very different than that in the middle east. They even had semi-independant states that roughly constitute the moder state of Tunisia and Algeria. And then there is european influence that happened differently. Being under the colonial rule of different powers meant that the infrastructures of the modern states that came after the decolonisation made it difficult for the arabs to unite even if they wanted to. So I think if we look at the subject from a perspective where the arabs are divided from the beginning, it's easier to grasp why they couldn't unite. And maybe they are not one big homogenous nation after all. (I'm an arab btw)

    • @halnineooo136
      @halnineooo136 Месяц назад

      Indeed the "Arab" world is not as homogeneous as foreigners may think. The "Arab" qualifier is misleading in that it can be understood in different ways. Certainly Arabs are not ethnically homogeneous. Cultures anterior to the spread of the Arab language didn't completely dissolve in a single Arab culture. You can find noticeable differences between Tunisia (I assume you're Tunisian) where the eastern Arabic culture permeated the society deeper, and Algeria or Morocco where native Berber identity is still lively and influent.
      Considering the cultures predating the Arab conquest, I'd draw similar clusters as the ones you described.
      Arabian cluster including Middle and southern Iraq, Gulf states Saudi Kingdom;
      Levant cluster including northern Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Israel/Palestine, Jordan;
      Nilotic cluster including Egypt, north Sudan, Djibouti, Somalia, Yemen, Comoros islands ;
      Maghreb including the five Maghreb states although there could be a distinct sub cluster for Tunisia and to a lesser extent Libya as a deeper arabised closer to the mashreq sub entity.

  • @alanf8609
    @alanf8609 Год назад +150

    I would love for Caspian Report to do a similar video on Latin America. The Spanish speaking world has so much in common but are very nationalistic as well. Not mention the gap with Brazil & the rest of LATAM.

    • @JuanPreciado87
      @JuanPreciado87 Год назад +11

      Hopefully, I'm Spanish and I would like an latin union, maybe with Portugal and Spain too.
      I always feel quite more similar to latinamericans than the rest of Europe. We only are similar to Italian people, anything else.
      I hope that our politics think about this.

    • @Argentvs
      @Argentvs Год назад +7

      It can be a economic union with a limited common policy and international front. But Latin America is not as homogeneous as people think. Little in common has a Uruguayan with a Colombian or a Cuban with a Peruvian or a Mexican with an Argentine.
      At most you can see the southern cone going into a economical political union like the EU with Brazil and Argentina as it's core.

    • @sociedadnortena9514
      @sociedadnortena9514 Год назад +6

      @@Argentvs Thats BS All of us share Religion, Language, Genes which are fundamental our different cuisines, accents, are secondary.

    • @Argentvs
      @Argentvs Год назад +15

      @@sociedadnortena9514 no. For religion I am atheist, Argentina and Uruguay have less than 20% of practicing devotes, nominally catholic but no Ody goes to church nor gives a shit about it. We are more atheist and agnostics than believers.
      Language, you don't speak as me.
      The BS is the latinamerican union we are nothing alike. I have in common to a Mexican the same a Yank has with with a South African. Same colonial origin does not unite you. We weren't never even part of the same administration.
      Nope nope and nope, language means nothing, I am not going to unity with people 8000 km away just because they barely use similar gramatical rules and words that doesn't even sound the same.

    • @scratchy996
      @scratchy996 Год назад +4

      ​@@Argentvs " economic union with a limited common policy" - that's harder to do than one thinks.
      The EU started that way, then they realized that more common policy is needed, if they want everyone to play by the same rules and have the same rights, because there is always one that finds a way to exploit the system, or is afraid to lose influence (*cough, UK).
      In the end you end up with a bloated and messy bureaucracy.
      It's actually amazing that the EU is still going strong, but serious bureaucratic reconsideration is needed. The EU only survived and prospered because of serious funding from the major economies, who have enough economic power to get throw tough times like the 2008 crisis, the Greek (6th at that time) bankruptcy and the 2020 pandemic.
      Latin America doesn't have such strong economies to act like the backbone of a Union, and support it in times of crisis. Even if there were some, would they be prepared and willing to give up some of their wealth and influence, to help poorer countries ? Would they want a Union in the first place, if they were already rich ?
      An economic trade union in Latin America would be great, but they have to keep if focused and limited to only that.

  • @narayandejesus218
    @narayandejesus218 Год назад +16

    This is such an important question to ask and the answers given herein are enlightening. Many thanks for this video!

    • @nenmaster5218
      @nenmaster5218 Год назад

      America is literally known to Sabotage Third Qorld Countrys
      so they cant become a Superstate.

    • @silkycod
      @silkycod Год назад

      I exactly agree! This video motivated me to make my own content on the Muslim/Arab world.

  • @finlaybates1542
    @finlaybates1542 Год назад

    unbiased educational truly everybody should see this video

  • @ryanreedgibson
    @ryanreedgibson Год назад +2

    Great video essay. I have learned so much from Caspian Report. I have a feeling we are not done paying for the illegal war with Iraq.

  • @truesimplicity
    @truesimplicity Год назад +17

    Wonderful unbiased presentation, truly informative for the uninitiated...

    • @eavocado5890pppj
      @eavocado5890pppj Год назад

      I was just disappointed he did not mention the GCC, he seems to ignore the Arabian peninsula

    • @tvc6886
      @tvc6886 Год назад

      @@eavocado5890pppj GCC is a dumpfire and the arabian peninsula is only good for Oil and nothing else. Saudi is of cultural importance but the rest are just oil and gas taps

  • @patrickcummins79
    @patrickcummins79 Год назад +6

    I 💖💕 u CaspianReport and I 💕💖 ur team. I'm going through a rough time, mentally. Intellectual, geopolitical stuff, like the topics you make videos on, Honestly helps my overall mental health. Thank you.

    • @arailway8809
      @arailway8809 Год назад

      James, I have a friend that went through PTSD.
      He would build a small fire from time to time and talk
      to Grandfather Fire. It helped him.

  • @danishshahzad6399
    @danishshahzad6399 6 месяцев назад

    well explained

  • @Ibn_jala
    @Ibn_jala Год назад +3

    آمل في يوم من الأيام أن نتوحد على خير، بناء أمة، أنهكتها الفرقة والحروب.. هو حلم كل مسلم عربي

    • @user-gs5pi3rf2g
      @user-gs5pi3rf2g Год назад

      لا فرق بين عربي وأعجمي إلا بالتقوى

    • @Ibn_jala
      @Ibn_jala Год назад

      @@user-gs5pi3rf2g هذا صحيح.. لا أحد يختلف معه

  • @teb_hp
    @teb_hp Год назад +48

    This is so similar to Hispanic America, I'm costa rican and even though there's almost no difference between us and Colombia, México, Panama, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Argentina, etc. we are still divided into 20 nations and can't even agree to create a single market or something like the EU, I hope arabs can unite and take your position in the world because you deserve better.

    • @carlodefalco7930
      @carlodefalco7930 Год назад +1

      That might not be so good ?
      Islam will come to dominate it and then it will once again want to dominate the world . That would be disaster for the world

    • @phylicia595
      @phylicia595 Год назад +2

      There is a huge different
      Hispanics have talent to build decent middle income economies
      Arabs can't do this at all
      The only decent Arab countries are the Gulf from oil not talent

    • @zuesadam7143
      @zuesadam7143 Год назад

      @@phylicia595 yes that's if you're looking at a perspective of someone whose entire mindset/ opinions have been brainwashed by the Tv

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@phylicia595Arabs can't do that? Egypt, Morocco, Algeria are pretty decent. Lebanon was very rich, until the economic crisis. It had a huge banking sector. Syria and Iraq were also very rich until the war and the revolution. Jordania is a beautiful example, it's even landlocked and still doing pretty good.

    • @phylicia595
      @phylicia595 6 месяцев назад

      @@houseplant1016 north african lands are dumps compared to Argentina and even Mexico. Despite Mexicans getting a bad rep in Latin lands. They're still better

  • @ethanomcbride
    @ethanomcbride Год назад +16

    “thought it is easy to attribute [insert historical or current event] to culture or personality, these are usually mere manifestations of geopolitical landscapes”
    I should save this and have it framed in my classroom.

    • @SeriousTopics
      @SeriousTopics Год назад

      The Arab Nationalism is almost dead, The Arabs reject it and if there will be an Arab Superstate it will be more Democratic with Muslim Identity.
      If it’s based on Democracy it will be like Turkey, Stable and thriving.
      With 450 million citizens 60 of them under age 30 and more than 60% of World Natural Resources and the Most strategic location in the world, It could easily become a superpower in an afternoon.

  • @mythyx8381
    @mythyx8381 6 месяцев назад

    thank you host shirvan

  • @MJ46.91
    @MJ46.91 Год назад +2

    this is great content, and it's so sad that th earab population can't find its way to it on the internet, would you agree if i add arabic subtitles to share it to my arabic community and networks? thank you for the effor and the research

    • @silkycod
      @silkycod Год назад +2

      Yeah it's a shame that more Arabic speaking people are not watching this content. It motivated me to create my own similar geopolitical videos on the Arab/Muslim world.

  • @TheNixonclone
    @TheNixonclone Год назад +6

    The more I see your new introduction, the more obsessed I am with it.

  • @Ex-expat
    @Ex-expat Год назад +4

    Excellent overview describing the cultural differences and the geopolitics. Thanks!

    • @eavocado5890pppj
      @eavocado5890pppj Год назад

      I was just disappointed he did not mention the GCC

  • @user-yj3ou1vq6s
    @user-yj3ou1vq6s Год назад +5

    As a person with Arab Jewish ancestry I felt that some claims may have been glossed over a bit too neatly in this one. I love the informational content and nuance of your videos, but two things struck me in this one.
    One of my parents (and most of my family on that side) had to flee their homes in the Arab world and many still hold vivid internalized trauma about existing in a society that made their ancestors citizens without rights if they ever would not be able to pay that “special tax” you mentioned. It would render you an individual without rights, with no legal repercussions for crimes committed against you (a fact that only changed with the establishment of the French colonial rule in North Africa in my family’s case.) Despite this, my family still has a strong cultural identity tied to the region, and a vastly positive collective memory about it. Just goes to show that every story is nuanced and the good and the bad go hand in hand. In the end, however, most opted to flee to Europe in the second half of the 20th century, also under the impression of systematic harassment and, in parts, physical violence and death threats.
    This leads me to the second aspect that struck me. Your video heavily implies that Israel’s growth was fueled by European immigrants. While true in the early years, immigration from Arabic countries gained importance quickly and accounts for the majority of Israel’s population nowadays (around 50-60% of the population), a fact somewhat obscured by the narration and the chosen visuals.
    I acknowledge these are minor things in the larger context of this video, but potentially damaging ones. Hence my desire to share my though. On the whole, however, thank yo for another nuanced and informative video!

    • @myriam8947
      @myriam8947 Год назад +1

      Everyone paid taht special tax,everwhere on earth people paid taxes to their rulers ,thé reason why it got agressive by thé end days of thé ottoman empire was aggressive it was cause they needed those autonomous communities to bé loyal and submissive ,most or the population in North Africa weren't content with it especially in algeria where it fell easily to thé french because of this ,the late ottoman rule wasn't the prettiest but defenitily for a good reason ,your ancestors choice to side with thé french like u claim wasn't solely because of this ,they were obviously despised by européens but it was for économic reasons and to escape la grande famine wouldn't put this anywhere near what their fate would've been had they lived e in Europe during the centuries u speak of ,they would've been long an extinct species !

    • @barittos5585
      @barittos5585 Год назад

      @@myriam8947 ف وقت دخول ايطاليا لي ليبيا الأمراء العثمانيين كانو يخافو من القتال الشعب الليبي كان بأمس الحاجة لهم
      نفس الشيء للجزائر مع فرنسا

    • @mca7918
      @mca7918 Год назад

      Arabs welcomed you to Jerusalem while your ancestors were being wiped off by Europeans lol

    • @user-bs3ph4wd9l
      @user-bs3ph4wd9l 6 месяцев назад

      Muslim pay zakat which are more than your “special taxes” and you are Jewish a being meant to lie.
      The rest of your words are lies and fabrication I’m not wasting my time on them.

  • @samwisegamgee6532
    @samwisegamgee6532 Год назад +9

    For me, one major reason why arabs are "states without a nation" is precisely the fact that arabian world never was a nation. The arabian empires existed as political powers at a time when the idea of a nation didn't existed.
    You need a pre existing feeling of cultural unity in people to build a nation. Even during the times of arabian or ottoman empires, each local ethnic group kept their own culture.
    You can see that in the difference between the European Union and the United States, 2 entitiies with similar size and population.
    The United States were build by the european colonists who had formed one separate culture. These colonist conquered the continent and almost entirely destroyed the native american nations. And they managed to build a united country and being a unique nation.
    In Europe, differente cultures and countries have existed for centuries. And for that reason, European Union was build as a commercial and partially political union. But there is no european nation. And it is the same for the old empires inside europe : when the idea of nations rised in the 19th century, nationalism were build at a lower level than the empire one.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 Год назад +1

      America didn't really have 1 culture though, many of the founding fathers/revolutionary leaders were british but some were from other colonies like Alexander Hamilton, some were Quakers, some were scottish or scotch Irish, some like the man who helped found the american cavalry regiments were polish, and there were tons of germanic people from across central europe. Later waves of Irish also came and settled too. The US had quite a few religious groups when it was first founded with Quakers, shakers, puritans, baptists, and tons of other protestants not to mention many Catholics. When america started to expand they gained tons of french and spanish colonists, and although excluded politically they also gained tons of natives and mexicans as their border expanded westward. That's also.without bringing up the distinct african american cultures (plural). There has also always been a sizable cultural divide of the north vs south that was much more obvious in the past. Waves of immigration also brought many cultures from across europe from russian jews to italian Catholics, plus immigrants from places like China and latin america. Part of the reason for english not being 100% the official language is since during the early days of america there were tons of French, spanish, and german speakers in the US and many in the US didnt speak much english (notably the amish and mennonites even today speak their own version of german and there are still tons of spanish speaking mexicans in the southwest and still some french cajuns).
      Part of the reason the founding fathers venerated the Roman's so much was their civic nationalism: They bound together different cultures into a single empire. The founding fathers basically _manufactured_ american culture so they could create a melting pot which is why there are so many native american, french Canadian, and Germanic based stories in american culture. They created a "media blitz" style propaganda drive after the revolution to try and assert things like coffee drinking rather than tea to assert their new culture over the existing British culture.

    • @user-bs3ph4wd9l
      @user-bs3ph4wd9l 6 месяцев назад

      Just shut it!
      Arabs were nations and the most ancient ones them and Africans.
      The thing preventing them is plain and simple: Europe and Jews.

  • @Jondiceful
    @Jondiceful Год назад +34

    Very insightful. Thank you! This is without a doubt one of the most complex and turbulent regions on Earth. There are so many angles to study that I suspect one lifetime would not be sufficient time to learn it all. But it's also an area where the history of the region both constrains their future and inspires grand imaginations of what could be. This corner of the world has never been short of surprises. I expect that you will have plenty of opportunities to revist the region in the years ahead. I am looking forward to those videos.

    • @fowlerfreak7420
      @fowlerfreak7420 Год назад +3

      you can "revisit the region" now just go to paris or london.

    • @silkycod
      @silkycod Год назад

      Exactly my thinking - that's why I decided to create geopolitical videos on the region myself!

  • @saadalameri
    @saadalameri Год назад +370

    Shared language and religion aren’t enough to create a country. There’s a huge variety in customs, traditions, history and dialects between these countries. A more reasonable unions would be regional based (Arabia, The Levant, the Maghreb) and all of them being federations
    You also failed to mention two examples of unification attempts, The UAE, and Yemen, whereas the UAE was a success, Yemen’s unification is on its death bed.

    • @bulldogface8259
      @bulldogface8259 Год назад +6

      Also the rafidah would not expect the followers of Sunnah or the as leaders

    • @ssa3101
      @ssa3101 Год назад

      @@bulldogface8259 will we accept a ahle-tashaiyo as our leader?

    • @syedasifhussain2074
      @syedasifhussain2074 Год назад +46

      Then how come India is a country they have many cultures, languages & many different religions & India has been divided for centuries

    • @ssa3101
      @ssa3101 Год назад +1

      @@syedasifhussain2074 because india was a british project. It was united by force by the british. And then left as such to pressure the eastern flank of the islamic world. But by Allah's grace Pakistan was the counter project created by the divine decree, as a result india is to this day struggling to contain a country one-fourths its own size.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 Год назад +57

      @@syedasifhussain2074 Britain and decent geography

  • @alaedine1642
    @alaedine1642 5 месяцев назад +1

    we have a famous saying "arabs agreed to not agree"

  • @silkycod
    @silkycod Год назад +1

    This video motivated me to start a geopolitical channel focused on the Arab/Muslim world ❤

  • @Old.Man.Of.The.Mountain
    @Old.Man.Of.The.Mountain Год назад +120

    Would love to see a video on Sri Lanka's current problems.

    • @el-jp3xp
      @el-jp3xp Год назад +5

      Watch indias declining democracy

    • @adurpandya2742
      @adurpandya2742 Год назад +1

      Sri Lanka has no hope for the next 15 years. It needs to go back to subsistence agriculture.

    • @yami6499
      @yami6499 Год назад +14

      @@el-jp3xp LOL....Current indian gov came after winning elections in which 900 million ppl voted.....thats literally the pinnacle of democracy...u dnt like it doesnt mean it's something else..most Indian ppl like the gov..thats literally meaning of democracy.

    • @HimanshuKumar-tw4fl
      @HimanshuKumar-tw4fl Год назад +2

      @@yami6499 Pff, Speak for yourself dude. Don't speak on behalf of us other Indians. Many of us are not happy with the current government.

    • @yami6499
      @yami6499 Год назад +7

      @@HimanshuKumar-tw4fl 'many' are not happy..but most are satisfied..it's simple as that.thats the whole point of democracy and the votes reflect it.
      And in all honesty, lives of pretty much everyone I know has improved by good margin in recent yrs.

  • @soloc83
    @soloc83 Год назад +16

    Great video! One quick note though: During the Fertile Crescent Union phase (just after WWII), it would have been worthwhile to highlight the role of the SSNP and the concept of a Greater Syrian state that was actually opposed to Pan-Arabism!

    • @arsh99119
      @arsh99119 Год назад

      thearshblog.blogspot.com/2022/09/russia-to-held-referendum-in-north.html

  • @vvucn
    @vvucn Год назад +1

    "إننا مجدٌ وعز إننا ... عائدون امتي لا تأسي"

  • @MahiyanKhanAbir
    @MahiyanKhanAbir 4 месяца назад +1

    Moral of the history: "Arabs are great at making unions. "

  • @theabyssofthoughts
    @theabyssofthoughts Год назад +5

    Detailed,nuanced and yet concise. Keep it up mate!

  • @xXVignettaXx
    @xXVignettaXx Год назад +4

    I have been waiting soo long for a more in-depth look on this topic. You never fail to impress

  • @andresisrael5817
    @andresisrael5817 Год назад

    I don't know enough to parse out the bias, but it seems to me this video is well made.

  • @NathanDayspring-re4ok
    @NathanDayspring-re4ok 6 месяцев назад +2

    Where the crescent goes failure is predestined..

    • @mashinajoe
      @mashinajoe 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes 😂

    • @History_Teller1250
      @History_Teller1250 6 месяцев назад +1

      No. That's only your delusional perspective...

    • @History_Teller1250
      @History_Teller1250 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@mashinajoeNo. That's only your delusional perspective...

  • @inchrg5112
    @inchrg5112 Год назад +109

    Somalia and Djibouti are not Arab nations, but they are politically more aligned with arab countries.

    • @AliTSaddam
      @AliTSaddam Год назад +12

      You aren't arab but you are Muslims.. and we are proud to have you with us

    • @bonafidemonafide7810
      @bonafidemonafide7810 Год назад +12

      Northern Somalia (Somaliland)‚ Djibouti‚ and even half of Eritrea has a lot of Arabic(Origin) tribes and Arab cultural imprint even before Islam as many migrations came from Yemen and Southern Arabia.
      The same happened between Yemen/Oman (Hadhramut) and the Comoros Islands

    • @ammarhaziq919
      @ammarhaziq919 Год назад +1

      They are semitic people and using semitic languages like arabs or assyrians or jews, Ethiopia should be included in arab world but they were not politically aligned with most of middle east.

    • @circles3381
      @circles3381 Год назад +9

      @@AliTSaddam the video says Arab world. What do we share in this world? I. E if you're not Arab, then this world does not belong to you. Change the title if you want us with you.. Otherwise,, we aint Arabs.. We have our own land, culture and language. Capish.

    • @herewegoo2677
      @herewegoo2677 Год назад +4

      We're Arabs we have been culturally and religiously integrated with the Arab world a lot of somali tribes come from Arab backgrounds for example the daroods who originate from Oman and partially Yemen. We're proud Arabs.

  • @liveforever9888
    @liveforever9888 Год назад +34

    Some Slavs were also united and it didnt work out in the end ( Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Soviet Union). I guess for the same reasons the arabs have.

    • @user-cx9nc4pj8w
      @user-cx9nc4pj8w Год назад +23

      The Soviet Union wasn't a slavic union though, it was Russian Imperialism justified by socialism, whereas yugoslavia was a unification movement. Czechoslovakia also isn't the best example as it's split wasn't really necessary and it could still reunite.

    • @Maus_Indahaus
      @Maus_Indahaus Год назад +9

      Meanwhile India and Indonesia have dozens of different ethnicities that coexist without falling part, not relying on nationalism to form a nation. It just shows how flawed and outdated the concept of a nation state is, and will especially become so in the future.

    • @emre05x
      @emre05x Год назад +16

      @@Maus_Indahaus I wouldn't say that's true for today's India anymore, the population is so divided due to the ruling party that it's literally a time bomb. They are going the opposite way of Gandhi.

    • @liveforever9888
      @liveforever9888 Год назад +2

      @@user-cx9nc4pj8w Sure, the soviet union was more of a forced marriage, but regardless the Russians, Ukranians and Belarussians were all under one government. It is true that most people in Czechoslovakia wanted the country to stay intact, but it was going to split up sooner or later anyway (there were some economic and cultural differences between the Czechs and Slovaks that have been going on for decades, and the idea of Czechoslovakism failed to solve that) , Slovaks always believed they were recieving the short end of the stick in the country’s affairs. A reunification is really unlikely (im slovak). The two countries are simply brothers that went their own seperate ways.
      I also heard of this intermarium plan propossed by Poland to create a large eastern european nation composed mostly of Slavs. That also has failed to materialize.

    • @Maus_Indahaus
      @Maus_Indahaus Год назад

      @@emre05x Well, if a nuclear power goes into a horrible civil war, while also having a nuclear power enemy neighbor, we're all f***ed

  • @Boodyzina
    @Boodyzina 11 месяцев назад

    You murdered those names 😅

  • @IntelTwelve
    @IntelTwelve 6 месяцев назад +1

    7:15 - I don't know where you came up with this name: Fertile Crescent Union. This was known as "Greater Syria" or "Bilad ash Sham".

  • @napolien1310
    @napolien1310 Год назад +143

    From my understanding as an Arab from Saudi Arabia, it is impossible to have one superstate, I do believe the people will wish for it but the leaders and governments will not allow that, but there is a better alternative, we have the Arabs league and for me I wish for it to have the same function as the EU to allow free trades between us allow Arabs to move from one country to the other I mean it will do wonders, Egypt right now is overcrowded with people with no jobs, they can simply travel to the gulf states and work there with no restrictions, we can exchange ideas to better yourself and strengthen our identity as one people, but I guess I can only dream of something like that.

    • @Shatterfury1871
      @Shatterfury1871 Год назад +29

      The EU is a confederation on it's way to becoming a federation.
      We have an elected European Parlament, a EU Government - the European Commission.
      As for an Arab speaking free trade area, that has no economic basis.
      The Magreb nations have far more powerful links with the EU than they have with the rest of the Arab speaking states.

    • @akon360
      @akon360 Год назад +24

      The problem is the “ideas” Egypt would bring would directly correlate to overthrowing the monarchy. And it would have validity too since Egyptians are both arabs and Muslim; the population would atleast here them out. So It’s better for Saudi’s to bring in non arabs especially non Muslim ones too .I.e Indians.

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa Год назад +5

      For that u would need a certain level of common legislation for comerce and civil rights which u don't agree between urself with very different levels of islamic jurisprudence.
      It can't work if no one is willing to compromise.

    • @scottdoesntmatter4409
      @scottdoesntmatter4409 Год назад

      That could never happen. Islam is too intolerant, even of itself.

    • @TajamalGhumman
      @TajamalGhumman Год назад

      @@Shatterfury1871 Arabs have not fought two world wars like Europeans and they have no inherent racist problem in their religion and majority of Arabs want Union, if Europeans can make EU the Arabs and Muslims at large can definitely unite because there is no other way of coming out of humiliation and slavery of colonial powers. The only Problem is that dominant world powers and corrupt elites classes of Arab world don't let it happen for their vested interests. But it is inevitable, sooner the better.

  • @AFAndersen
    @AFAndersen Год назад +31

    03:20 - Funny how he says "jagged borders", while highlighting the most straight country borders in the world...

    • @oualidbdf
      @oualidbdf Год назад +1

      U can't draw a line and create countries

  • @returo7297
    @returo7297 6 месяцев назад +1

    in a letter sent to Egyptian ruler Al-Muqawqis in the sixth year of hijri, the prophet invited him to Islam and said if he becomes a Muslim, Allah will double his reward.

  • @RealEyesRealiseRealLies
    @RealEyesRealiseRealLies Год назад

    I am at 3:29 i soon as i saw my country somalia and also djibouti i was like oh no one of those vids