Pig vs Luck-Abusing SWF | Dead by Daylight
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2023
- This match features a group of survivors using the "Luck Offering" strat to its full extent. By combining multiple luck offerings with the perks "Up the Ante" and "Slippery Meat", their chances to unhook themselves are almost 100%. This video might teach you some tricks to play around this. However, on top of doing this, they also brought something else...
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Here's a quick rundown for people who are interested in these survivor's self unhook probability:
base probablity: 0.04
luck offering: 0.03 * 3 + 0.02 = 0.11
up the ante: 0.09 (if every survivor is alive) * 3 = 0.27
total self unhook probability PER ATTEMPT: 0.04 + 0.11 + 0.27 = 0.42
however, every survivor also has slippery meat, and hence they have 6 attempts instead of 3
each attempt p(x) = 0.42, where the success rate is a discrete value and independent from each trial, and hence should follow a geometric distribution, where the accumulated distribution would be P(x
Thanks, I appreciate the maths
Thx for doing the maths, crazy how it can go from 4% to 96% with a couple perks and offerings
Damn that's excellent! haha i am taking a probability course, I should tell my professor to use this question on exam.. oh wait, i should've just kept it to myself lol
i like your fancy maffs, magic man
Well you forgot that slippery also gives you +4% so it’s not 42% it’s actually 46%.
Also I’d say:
46 (%) ^6 (attempts) divided by 100 ^6. That’ll add up to 97.520509% of unhooking yourself in any of these 6 attempts. And btw if you’re swf brings 4 antes and 4 purple lucks (and obv 4 slipperys) you’re chances are 99.274369%.
Also if you’re interested if you’re doing this strat in a 2 man. Only in a TWO MAN. And both of you bring purple luck, slippery and antes you’re chances are 90.113252%. In only a TWO MAN. Also if the randoms in this two man need to unhook themselves (assuming they don’t have slippery bc they’re randoms) they still have a 62.6752%.
And lastly if you do it on you’re own and bring up the ante (the green luck offering that does the same as the purple but only for you and not the whole team) and slippery you’re chances are 73.7856%.
But then might as well bring deli.
I routinely get destroyed by a single deliverance in matches, I can't imagine the stress of 4 deliverances minus the broken status 😭
Plus the syringes, thats the real killer
Good momiji pfp
Plus you don't need to activate it
Plus you get a 5th perk
Imagine this, and they all also bring Deliverance and Deadhard on top of it. Literally immortal survivors.
There's something beautiful about Otz going full "serious mode" when it comes to a game
Yeah, I loved this game. Sadly, most of the time, Otz plays like the friendly killer of the neighbourhood who follows the imaginary rules of baby survivors. I hate when Otz does that.
@@everythinguwant1112 True those cringe rules have made people like otz actually feel bad for playing to win, its just sad tbh.
"I've given thee courtesy enough"
Wait can someone explain what this "baby survivor rules" otz follows that you're talking about?
@UnIxerse Don't be near the hook at all, even if someone is leading you to the hook during chase. No "tunneling" even if the rescuer hides so the only one you find from unhook is the one who was just hooked. Don't bring meta perks, don't play certain killers, get everyone on death hook etc
Imagine almost losing to a pig with 4 syringe medkits, 4 self unhook builds, having swf coms and still tbagging at the end. These people are the type of survivors that make killers play like assholes.
i agree with you. Considering all advantages they had, they almost lose and then Claudette doing a tbag is a cherry on the cake
Nitpick you didn't ask for, but it was actually 3 syringes and we can't verify whether they were on comms or not.
Still kinda yikes tho.
@@dumblenutz5561 yeah man the chances of being solo queue and finding teammates with the exact same 4 offerings + up the ante + slippery + syringes + coordinated effort are not that low🙄
I had this build ran against me as Sadako (not running meta or condemn playstyle) and got a 3k. They were a 4 man all t-bagging me, was toxic in endgame chat and left a -rep on my steam profile for being a "sweaty try hard killer who prevents survivors from having fun" despite me playing very "fair". The best part is that one was a TTV so I got to see there perspective and they were the pinnacle of entitled, just gotta love survivors some times right?
Don't forget survivor stacking for the advantage as well. Multiple claudettes with default skin.
Otz the kind of guy who after a crazed killer sledgehammers a hole in his house, responds with "you fool, you just made an infinite" and loops the killer in his house until the police arrive an hour later
No bloodlust in reallife, despair
This is the funniest comment I've seen in a while 😂😂😂
can't believe otz has basekit sprint burst and made for this, he needs a nerf
the most satisfying otz moments are when he realizes the situation, starts calculating his plan ahead of time, and then delivers his reasoning like an anime protagonist 😂
I especially love seeing this when he plays Trapper or Hag. LOL
Your videos made me comeback to dbd. I played 3 matches and all for 4 survivors escaped, after that I unistalled the game and cried. Thanks otz :)
Totally okay to warm up and slowly get back into things, you don't need to win a tournament on your first game after a break.
You should do kill your friends and enjoy the warm comfort of friends helpng you get back on your feet and no pressure to perform. And before you say it, I'll be your friend :D
this is me on a different level
you even got the patience to play 3 games, i woulda quit after the first one
@Nick Hey, me too!
Did they force you to watch them teabag at the exit gates? 😂 A right of passage for all killers
"I'm gonna use the Pig's stealth" was not something I expected from Otz after all his tierlists
The stealth is good if you use it at the right moments imo
Mainly at the start of the match or if many survivors are injured. When time is of the essence and gens are actively contested, don't bother.
@@dumblenutz5561 I also works well with indoor maps where you can catch people from a blind corner.
@@pepethefrog6809 Yeah it's a good idea to stealth before you check gens in general, especially on indoor maps.
Otz always impresses me with how lightning fast he is at identifying the oppositions strategy and in simular haste, comes up with effective counter measures. Loved this match!
I mean it should be obvious to any player after seeing 4 luck offerings
@@Daventry85 yeah I mean when you see 4 luck offerings you think to yourself “how could survivors use luck to their advantage? Oh I know self unhooking.”
@@struanmackirdy9594 Most people are bad at the game, thus most people have low standards for skill.
@@dumblenutz5561 I suppose so.I’ve spent too much time playing this game, maybe not as much as otz but damn I can’t get 1500 hours of my life back hahaha
He has probably seen it many, many times.
2 kills on a lobby this stacked is absolutely an accomplishment imo. i'm surprised the survivors didn't play better, considering.
The entitled t-bagging Claude only escaped because Otz mind gamed himself. If he hadn't tried to get ahead of her by going around the long way to the gate and just kept the chase straight forward she wouldn't have had enough for her Syringe to take effect. As Otz said, she didn't win by her skills but by her items.
I agree with you on everyone but Mika, as we didn't get to see her much that match and what we did see she was making risky plays to try and save a teammate. But everyone else we saw enough to see that they were sub-par at best and I can only assume that Otz's MMR on Pig is a bit on the low end for Otz.
@@vladspellbinder He didnt want to cut her off he only was checking if the other teammate was opening the exit gate
Also she used syringe. Until BHVR nerfs that busted ass addon, it will still give free escapes
@@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia People who remember the old syringes: 🫠
The first Claud who got chased kept dropping pallets early in the game. She kind of screwed her teammates. These weren’t very competitive players in my opinion
@@vladspellbinder that's not how mmr works, your lowest killer mmr is bound to your highest killer one (to an extent). it can't be lower than a certain amount, and will rise to match that, and with the softcap, the difference becomes meaningless.
Self-unhook luck build is possibly one of best builds that counter camping. You don't need a teammate to go for unhook and if u have DS or unbreakable it'd be a lot of time wasted for killers
I was just explaining this literally yesterday to my group of two friends. Think about this. Kobe build is better than deliverance in EVERY WAY when it works. If you replace deliverance with slippery meat, you still have 3 perks to play around. Also it doesn't require a save to work, so no getting chased first and wasting deliverance. Also with jar of salty pus*y lips it stacks luck to the point where with slippery meat you and your teammates will always Kobe. That's not even counting up the ante, which you don't even need it's just overkill. My one friend didn't want to waste a slot on slippery so he only has 3 chances everytime. Got out everytime hahaha.
Sorry for the long explanation
@@immortal_SO ...I think it's imbalanced. The win in this game is almost always time managment. While survivor is hooked it's already at least 2 people off gens, first one is hooked, second is unhooking. Maybe third one chased. Against such SWF there's no chance for a normal person to win a game, especially if they don't want to camp and tunnel. While in a normal game there are 1-2 people on gens most of the time in that case there are 2-3 people on gens most of the time. Combined with anti-tunnel perks and syringes or styptics it's simply impossible for killer to get more than 2k. Maybe if that's some sweaty killer they have chances for sure. But not someone trying to play casual killer.
@@lincorecybergnida it's not very common and I think most people who do it do it just for fun. It's imbalanced sure, but I genuinely think most times people are just trying a strat and having fun with a perk that's rarely used
I personally prefer sprintburst + Hope to make fat distance and it doesn't deactivate in endgame so I can make a break for it even if they have noed. This has worked for me even when I play solo
@@josephhiers9523 We do this kind of build to mess around tbh... it's fun. The goal was just to jump in the Killers face and slap dat ass. Not to mention we all died but like... we had fun, idk about the killer, I sure hope he didn't get lasting psychological damage from the ass slapping...
*actually I should say did, I don't play any more
"Yea yea no teabag, your item did that for you."
Love the quick jab at her 😂
I love your Pig games. They’re my fave.
I liked what Otz said at the end... "If you want to win that bad... go for it. We didn't do that bad tho." I'll try to be this chill next sweaty match I have.
Can I say that without a doubt this was one of the craziest match by Otz? It was so informative and showed how great of a player he is making strategies on the go and turning a potential big loss into a win
Indeed! He would have gotten a better result if he was more focused tho. Some missplays were made, but that's fine.
Makes me a bit frustrated that the tbagging claud got away cuz of said mistakes... oh well.
@@dumblenutz5561 Yeah, but sadly Claudette mains that tbag and do nothing all games are known to escape the trial while the ones that carried the team die in it, if anything it made her look very petty
The fact that you got a 2k AS PIG into 3 syringes and those builds is wild
Imagine if all killers could bring an add-on that in a single tap takes away a survivor’s health state, even in the middle of chase. I don’t understand how items like syringes exist in this game still
Cuz devs are survivor-sided
Or if there was an add-on that immediately forced one survivor to stage 2 on hook. That’s pretty much what BNP does.
Wild comments lol
Back in the days it would instantly pick up downed survivor to a full health without any timers. That's why it's called instaheal
@@norphron In most other games, I'd call that cheating.
If there is no booping in this video I QUIT!
Love your attitude towards losing! Makes me and probably other killer players not take a loss seriously at all, especially when survivors bring those kinds of things :)
You really think that was a loss? I have no idea how you got that from this match
@@davidtrueblood1863 This game was more of a draw and for sure not a loss considering the stuff they brought, but I was talking about Otz’s general attitude that can be seen in every clip. There were alot of moments in this video where he kept his cool really well and kept being positive
@@hmmm6798 Fair enough. I agree with Otz having a positive impact on my attitude going into DbD playing killer. It's what got me through the initial frustration when I first started playing and thought that winning = 4k. Now, thinking about it logically, Killer kinda cannot lose, even with 0k, if you were as much of an obstacle as possible to the survivors, you did your part and get bloodpoints for the efforts either way. Can't say the same for the side where you can die. That's basically a lose condition if ever DbD had one. And even then, they get rewarded BP for what they accomplished and can just queue another game.
It was not a loss, they bring their strongest items with abusing unhook build and lost 2 people to M1 killer
@@davidtrueblood1863 he only got two kills, all gens were completed, and the guy he was chasing got away. It’s pretty easy to imagine why killers would think that’s a loss
Imagine being P100, playing in a SWF, running ludicrous luck build, teabagging at gate, then realizing the killer outscored you and it wasn't even close.
I'd like to think they'd be embarrassed, but these people don't know shame.
And the killer was Pig
@@LinucNerd
Bet they can't do shit if they are against the nurse.
@@asain3586 To be fair, if you're playing against nurse, you may HAVE to use tactics like these nowadays
Well, that's survivor mains for you...They know they're safe because devs want to keep survivor as the power role. They think they're good just because they hold M1 to win and W in chases and still give enough time for teammates to complete gens.
@@BwanaLasPelotas okay dude let's chill here. No need to be a salty killer main. We're talking about people who behave like this P100 garbage can, no need to whine about how easy survivor is.
Now, respectfully to them, imagine if the entire team was good
This happened to me as legion. 4 swf, all brought the oak separating hooks with unbreakable and dead hards, and of course medkits. After eliminating one survivor, silent hill map carried since I had to camp at second stage hook in one of the corners against the other 2 survivors who could’ve escaped, but since they want to all get out I downed them after faking chase ten thousand time and let them bled out since I wasn’t risking an escape due to the lack of hooks. Also, I used my power like 3 times that whole match.
Otz is the kind of guy to know a guy who is that kind of guy
He’s not that guy, pal.
@@fart63 he is the kind of guy
@@fart63 he is the kind of
@@fart63 poot poot 💨
I hope otz starts banning comments like these
That t-bag at the end would have tilted me. Good on you man! If I saw that in the beginning I probably wouldnt have been nearly as calm.
Its crazy how things like this tilt ppl I find the head nods and tbags to be hilarious as surv and killer ppl just take this game way to serious lmfao
@@christiancastro7516 I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, it’s just that small things like that are like taking a piss on someone who just got beaten up.
It stings if the match has been rough and you’re not feeling well because of it.
Just don't go to the exit gates if you know you can't down them or they are already there. Yeah it will extend the match for 2 minutes because they will stay being toxic until the timer runs out, but just stay in a corner far away from doors and go afk, don't give those people the satisfaction to make you look at them being toxic while tbaging at the exit door
@@christiancastro7516 That's because you don't play as killer to know how it's like
@@BwanaLasPelotas Yeah, I do that, still just kinda of a “ough” feeling regardless, even if I laugh it off.
Otz's ability to not just play exceptionally well, but identify the survivors' strategy and counter-play accordingly is already amazing. But the fact he can articulate his thought process and choices mid-match, and educate on the do's and don'ts of the current match; all while livestreaming, absolute treasure to the DbD community!
That guy in the end teabagging acting as if skill was what got him out. A red add-on was the only thing that saved him.
I think she outplayed Otz at the end with that window fake. It bought her enough time to heal
Using up the ante, slippery meat, and one luck offering even just as a solo player is so good. It’s one of my favorite builds
BHVR “yes this is balanced”
We are aiming to balance the game for casual players to give them a better chance overall in matches, so we are removing the pig's undetectable status to prevent camping and tunnelling
@@spoooooooooooooooook "We have found that the Pig's kill rates had dropped dramatically. Therefore we are deleting the Pig"
Just as balanced as nurse
survivors getting a hatch escape after 3 syringes,4 ds,4 otr,4,dh,1prove thy,3 bts,map offering,key:
"EZ"
Yes 4 prove thyselves
That is definitely the only reason why all 4 survivors got an insta hatch escape in 2023, somehow.
bro i said 1 prove thy
@@alexandredasilvavilasboasrosas I think he's talking about the key. No idea why, considering most keys nowadays are used for aura reading the killer.
The survivors must’ve been real heated to not get a perfect 4 escape since they didn’t even ggs back lmao
"sWfs are not that strong."
But yeah, had a game with 3 lucks and a garden of joy map offering dropped on me. All with survivor running the same skin and med kits.
So, played mean. Camped, tunneled, and basically just used a dead zone the first survivor made to slug and get a 3k. Watched the bile in end game chat. Just kinda laughed. "Like, what did you expect me to do? You clearly don't want to 'play fair', so why should I?"
I really appreciate these kinds of videos bc I’m a baby killer and Otz’s advice that he gives throughout the game helps a lot when I get these kinds of teams. Thanks Otz! Keep doing god’s work
You're a _WHAT!?!?!?_
Takes a lot of guts to just admit you're a baby killer.
Keep yer chin up pal! You'l be a strong killer eventually if you keep playing and learning.
If i can go from a mediocre rank 20 pig main to a constantly iridescent killer who can play various characters, so can you. Just takes practice and experience.
Bit humble, you must be at least better to get these teams omd 😂
@@sensei_oogway1175 I wouldn’t say I’m a complete baby killer, I’ve been playing dbd on and off for a few years now but I rarely play killer so I’m pretty bad at it, but I know the game enough that I’m not completely horrible so sometimes (rarely, thank god) I get teams like this and it’s really frustrating.
@@dumblenutz5561 thanks! I main pig, ghostie and legion and I’m trying to get better at them but it can be frustrating sometimes so I appreciate the encouragement!
Otz is the kind of guy to play one of the weakest killers and still shred with them
you are hilarious got the whole squad laughing 😐
@@hongomybongo9684 yeah ikr
@@Solemiargoylelan333 I enjoyed your comment
@@kevinweltje4604 thank you sir
@@Solemiargoylelan333 I enjoyed your comment as well
Wow this game did not seem at all winnable without some broken meta build, great stuff BHVR
Pigs reverse bear traps need a bag like trapper to carry more or at the very least. Allow her to use the boxes that survivors use to remove them at, to grab another one from. Allowing her to only carry 5 or 4 at the start. And restock throughout the match.
Up to the amount of jigsaw boxes are left or unused
Super late but i second this
She would go from subpar to A tier easily. In the right hands Pig can be fairly strong but has some really bad weaknesses.. your "fix" would turn her into a powerhouse I think. Not that I disagree, when killers like Nurse and Blight exist, pig just lacks.
Hey Otz, that match was a thing of beauty! I applaud your quick thinking and correct analysis of the situation and I would consider this a sounding win given the odds (or Otz).
This is probably the best type of video other than long form explanations. I love seeing how you have to adjust play style on the fly to combat unusual and strong teams
I hate survivors who tbag. It's so obnoxious. I wish BHVR would add a feature where if you crouch in rapid succession like that (say 4-5 crouches within the span of 2 seconds) then you get blocked from the exit gate or something. Just to discourage BMing
Syringe must not only consume your medkit, but also have a cap of charges on your medkit, so you can't use your syringe if you dont have enough charges. It will make this more balanced since you'll have to manage your resources and dont just mindlessly press F to win.
The syringe is such a middle finger to your face. . .
I played as a pig and had a rough match just to be stunned at a jungle gym during end game by an injured steve who popped a syringe. Medkits are seriously overpowered in this game.
When I finally realized that about Syringes I mained survivor but now as a killer main and watching this strategy its has to be full cap at Brown medi's at least.. This game answered a lot of questions I had, not disappointed at all.. Kind of shook lmao
@@gianglai7346 What's insane is that they used to be even more OP when syringes were instant use.
Nothing better than an Otz upload first thing in the morning
the way I don't even try to play this game but am addicted to your gameplay! this was intense!
Big props to Otz for not immediately complaining about SWF with a strong strategy, he just assessed how to beat them.
did we watch the same video lol because it immediately opens with him complaining
@@FredCyber and? Swf teams with these builds and full med kits are extremely annoying
@@FredCyber Found the Claudette
@@regularkingdomrushplayer269 Just because it’s fair doesn’t mean that claiming Otz wasn’t complaining isn’t stupid. Otz clearly was, they aren’t debating whether that’s fair or not
@@CrazedKasaJizo yes they are talking about the fact that otz did complain. THEY. I'm talking about about these kinds of strategies are annoying
honestly pig is one of the only good ways to slow that team down besides mass slugging because her hats have no interaction with their perks
I love your content. I started watch your videos when I was new in this game. Now Im pretty good player and that happened cuz I watched ur gameplay! I still love watch your gameplay! Thanks Otz!!
Otz is the kind of guy to do a one build challenge
I didn’t even realize luck did anything still in this game. I only ever remember them affecting trappers traps ages ago and screwing him over
Self unhook is the ONLY thing luck does anymore. No increased chance of higher rarity chest items (that's on Plunderer's) no chance to have an add-on when opening a chest (Ace In The Hole..) It's a sad "statistic."
Imagine what these survivors could bring if they weren't each wasting 2 perk slots and their offerings on luck.
I'm not going to lie, how exactly does watching something like this want me to get into the game lol, it just looks horrendous to play against with anyone but the top killers. Mediocre players carried by perks and items.
dropping by again, I see this games survivor community strat hasn't changed much.. good content as always
Yey! Piggy!
I loved seeing the ambush timings n when you used stealth.
I'll be overjoyed if I could see more content on her from Otz.
Does scorpionz still play pig as much?
This is gonna be a great video, I can tell.
3 syringes, absolutely brutal, still great job Otz.
Otz is the type of guy to actively explain how to lose to someone as he destroys them and explains how to win
Wow... just wow! I knew you are a very strong DBD Killer, but that result on a Pig against these Perks and Items...
I am spechless! Congrats Otz, you are the Best!
Imagine playing this setup expecting the add ons and perks to carry you so you play sloppy. The killer still manages to kill half your team, you get saved by a syringe and you have the audacity to STILL tea bag The Pig of all people at the end lmao. I just cant lmao, and people are honestly confused as to why killers just end up tunneling like fuck outta here lol
My solution to the problem was to play fair regardless, and maybe even let some survivors escape.
If the higher ranks are largely filled by people who use meta perks, use exploits, and strategies like these, and you don't tunnel, camp, slug, use meta etc etc, you'll derank; thus being less likely to match up with these people going forward.
Since you sweat less, you'll meet players who sweat less.
Yeah, you won't be playing your hardest, and I am sure some people would consider this smurfing, but honestly, what does it matter?
The survs you'll go against won't have BS matches, you won't have BS matches.
As a bonus, if someone is toxic and you get the karma boner, you can start sweating in that match.
It would be cool if the pig would slide over a pallet in dash rush similar to Wesker
The icing on the cake was the teabagging at the end like you didn’t still get a 2k
7:12 I HAVE done this in solo queue. Had a Nea ask once for us all to burn Salty Lips but I didn't have any on that character so I burned a Statuette instead. Two Salty Lips, my Statuette and a Salt Pouch (better than nothing) were burned but only the Nea had the "luck build". I don't even remember how that game went and if she even got hooked or not.
11:57 I really do not see how Survivor Mains can get enough Bloodpoints to get anyone to Prestige one-hundred. Why do they enjoy suffering that much?
12:49 I hope that Claude gets to a better place in life.
Thanks for the video Otz!
I think her ability should break pallets instead of bouncing off. She would be so much better.
What other killer bounces off pallets using their power.
@@BotBehavior trapper
Otz is the kind of guy to recognise a SWF abusing an outdated mechanic and still apologise for playing tactically.
Not tactical...it's a grown ass man getting scared at the thought of losing and deciding to play like a shitty child not wanting to look bad in front of the kids who act as if he's some ultimate genius🤦🏾♂️😂 when really he just reads the information that's available to all of us..I promise you the build is designed to destroy campers/tunnelers! He knows that which is why he played this way..and still loss! Go watch any vid of these idiot creators using this build they hardly ever escape lol it's a meme and he knows it and he's trash for making it out to be some super abusive strat!! He carelessly opening his mouth with his platform ..welp it's fukk Otz from now on
2 things, first I main Pyramid Head.. Second this video answered my exact question of what a game would look like utilizing Luck like that.. Insane😳.. So hats off to you Otz, I am in no way prepared for a game like that because I'm not THAT good yet.. Wow😂
That fact that these guys almost lost to a pig that went easy on them by not committing to the full tunnel says a lot on how strong this build is, instead of how strong their skills are. Otz did an amazing job and still played fairly and kept his cool.
I don't think he went easy, he just prevented their build from working. Commiting to the full tunnel was probably gonna hurt him more than help, considering by the time one person was out the other three would be unharmed and probably almost done with the gens
as a gay men, it took me a second to realize what he meant with "bottom claudete" and "top claudete"
lmao thank god I’m not the only one
God, imagine teabagging at the gate after getting your cheesy 4-man SWF luck strat absolutely destroyed by one of the weakest killers in the game.
I would say they need to take some time for introspection but I know from experience that psychopaths can't self-reflect.
What’s even worse is actually getting mad at someone spamming crouch. If this is like your first online game then I understand but…
I got back into dbd recently, and seeing how the RCPD map changed like that is something else.
Damn otz, considering what u were up against you played insanely well!! Props to you
No problems here. But nerf eruption right?
Otz confirmed in this video that the pig needs to be nerfed since she has the OP power of stealth killer mindgames
Claudet teabag at end like "wow im looping u im a god" meanwhile syringe save her
I love it when two of three otz in existence upload in one day.
Who's the third ? 😂😂
@@Wolklaw otzdarva
@@mrunknown138 yeah, there's otzdarva, not otzdarva, what's the third ?
@@Wolklaw Otzdarva, Not Otzdarva, and Otz Clips
@@sumirejr1 ohhh, gotcha haha
Otz is the kind of guy to get tired of a meme after it has been a bit too used, that even thought it has had some pretty wonderfull iterations, has grown a bit tiring for some people, maybe even him.
Also the kind of guy to go like "ITS CRUSADING TIME" if you send him a pic of you littering his hometown.
you played this so clean. tough break. impressive though, really!
That end game screen just reminded me of a group of survivors I faced as wesker garden of joy with all bringing BNPs. Survivors as of late seem brutal with perk and item load outs. But at the same time when I play survivor, my god the insanely angry killer players who get so tilted over something like breaking a totem then go out of their way to then ruin the game for everyone. People in this game are a mess
Maining killer right now is less fun than sawing your balls off with chicken wire.
I love the otzdarva
That last claudette literally is the reason why this game is toxic....
The got clapped left and right even while abusing bs stuff and items
And still bragging at the exit gates
Cringe
i am VERY HEAVILY trying to convince myself the game is FUN. i fail most of the time. but your videos are indeed always fun to watch
This has to be one of the most well managed killer games I’ve seen in a while.
I don’t think I’d get two kills against a SWF with three health states, gen rush and unhook-free deliverance.
Losing 2 people when you're a 4 man this stacked against a D tier killer is soooooo pathetic LOL, can't believe she tbagged.
That's because it's very easy to win as survivor, so you know this kind of people never played as killed and they think they're good
@@BwanaLasPelotas it’s not easy to win as survivor bar very specific circumstances, quit whining. As a killer main, I 4k a good 75% of my games, and I’m nowhere near otz tier of good
Are 75% of your games 4 man swfs with syringe medkits and unhook builds?
@@albinocat Considering otz doesn't 4k 75% of matches, you're just a straight up liar with an ego or you're copy paste, eruption andy meta player. Lol
@@judas1213 i was replying to albinocat sorry for the confusion
"Killer is the strongest it's ever been"
Survivor is still stronger, and swfs wonder why no one wants to play against them
Perspective moment.
LMAO the claudette teabagging was just the icing on the cake.
Before I say anything I just wanna say I love your content and you really put a smile on my face and I hope you’ll have a great rest of the year
But anyway since the video is still really early I’ll try to use that opportunity to propose a build you could try out
Onryo : Ring drawing and Cabin sign
Brutal strength
Call of brime
Nowhere to hide
Lethal pursuer
I only used it in custom games against bots so I’m curious to see if it would do as well against real players or if it would fall flat
I did this once together with a 3-man SWF I joined in a random lobby. They told me to take Slippery Meat and Jar offering to increase the odds even more. We almost all escaped against a facecamping Bubba with Deadlock build, I unhooked myself during EGC and almost escaped but the path from the hook to open exit gate was too long, Bubba waited out Endurance and downed me. Everyone else escaped. I kind of hate that this is possible, solo survivors will almost never do this and SWF can do this reliably.
Runs a genuinely annoying build to just never be on hooks when they choose to unhook themselves and they teabag? Why?
Otz's ability to not get angry at dbd no matter what's happening to him absolutely flabbergasts me
Imagine going in with that setup, getting read like a book and actually countered, and still having the nerve to teabag. These people are sad lol
I was recently thinking of returning to dbd but seeing this stupid swf shit I am reminded how toxic this game and its survivor community is so I want to thank you for saving me from lots of anger. Thank you Otz, you've saved me!
While the bold is scummy, how is having a solid build of getting 4 people out toxic?
@@solariusyuuhi2328 I Suppose a nurse bringing best addons with optimal perks like Starstruck (if that's still a thing) tunneling someone out as soon as humanly possible isn't scummy either?
My friend either you are a survivor main who expects killers to follow the survivor bible and are somehow oblivious to the general entitlement of survivors, or you are pulling my tail. Yes technically it isn't against the rules to do your best to win in a swf, and nothing should stop you from using the most busted broken tactics. Problem is this game isn't intended to be an esport sweatfest and playing as optimally as possible with the endless supply of tools the devs give survivors while gimping killers (most of the time I know that the last meta shift was "killer favoured" but all it did was give some power back to a role that was powerless for over 2 years and the moment it happened the survivors couldn't take it) is just painful.
And the whole toxic thing I mean 3 syringes and they still tbag when they are getting carried almost exclusively by perks that don't involve player involvement. When you win because of tools that just give you a win con that has 0 counterplay in any way shape of form, if it's in the game and you are using it, doesn't make it "toxic" but the attitude sure is. And these "don't let the killer do anything other than bash his head at the wall" builds is what is hemorrhaging players from dbd I mean Nov and Dec lost them another 5k players.
Otz is the type of guy
Whenever I think about returning to the game I witness a build like this
There is one benefit to Pig vs these kinds of survivors (which I've experienced as a Pig main) - even if you can't hook them or they can unhook themselves, when you down them you can put a trap on them. So you've accomplished something a lot more helpful than just slugging even if you can't get hooks out of them. And you can camp for a bit in stealth if you need to - I've done that at the mouth of the basement with some success in desperate situations.
Survivors like this is why very few play killer, it’s not about how they play, but how they will abuse everything they can in the game to get a cheap win
With all due respect to Otz, I´ve been a fan since he started creating DbD content.
But why is it that when a survivor (or team) create a certain build it´s called abusing?
Killers use cancer builds all the time, and they get praised for using such builds, but when it´s the survivors role that uses a certain build, it´s abusing.
For example, the Boil over build was deemed toxic and abusing, meanwhile Insta Mori Onryo is considered a good tactic.
Or any slugging/gen kick build.
I´m sorry to anyone who gets offended by this, but I just had to say it. I have a lot of respect to Otz and all his opinions, but titles like this are just not the way.
I didn't know you can't reassure basement, I tried the other day and had no prompt haha. Thank you
Only you Otz can actually win this matchups, soo good
4:21 I like how the killer player is supposed to feel like reflexively guilty about how they're playing to counter the swf who used offerings and spammed med kits. The funny part is getting tunneled is one the most fun parts of playing survivor. Meanwhile killer has to chase 4 little health state factories. Hopefully we can make unbreakable, deliverance, bond, and kindred base kit soon, that should fix tunneling.
Before this video my SWF group were always like "I dOn'T wAnNa DoNaTe TwO oF mY pErKs To A MEEEEEME bUiLd" when I was telling them it was legitimately good.
Now I know they're gonna wanna do it now that lord Otz has decreed it effective and I don't know whether to be happy or sad.
Sad cause your friends are sheeple
So much in this match demonstrates why I love Pig!
I used to do this build to derank
I did up the ante, slippery meat, ds, and no mither and I try my best the entire game to catch the killer's attention. it trained me how to do chases too without a deadhard. didn't think those 2 perks will become meta a few months later
These survivors give me hope that there's a good way to beat campers
10895th !!!
The builds on their own aren't too problematic but to add the triple medkit w/ syringe too adds some really unfun situations for killers to try and deal with
That was a pretty great match! 👍. Good to see some pig love
“Luck-abusing”
My brother it’s literally luck