Nice ! I tried 3S with a XL5-HV in a 4-TEC with the brushed 12T Titan, What killed the motor was not the heat, but the output bushing was gone in 10 minutes 😆. Keep it lubricated well and it might last !
My first hobby grade was a 2wd Rustler back in 200O. Electronics were terrible 😆 I immediately upgraded all the electronics and modified the steering to where the turn radios was much better still not a great race truck but fun to bash around the yard though 😁 Budget case is always a good idea 👍🏻
This was my first hobby grade rc. Yes... the wing is that effective. Also, there's almost no weight in the front. That's another reason that it pushes so horribly in the corners. I never tried trimming my wing, I just took it off. I have a 5' ditch I jump off & mine flies better without the wing.
The brushed Traxxas Bandit. What a tank. My son won a A Main with one when he was still 4 years old. Was it fast? Faster than the the other Outlaw 2wd 10th scale rigs? Hell no. They could do 3 laps for every one of his. But they all broke by the second lap and he made 4 before the clock ran out! Almost every Traxxas vehicle has sadly left rear toe adjustment out of the tuning possibilities. 3s VXL Bandits doing close to 70 aren't as bomb proof, but if you keep the battery and motor limits sane, you could have a great low buck spec class. Cheap to get into and cheap to maintain? Perfect. If I were you? I'd allow for some suspension, wheel and tire, and body mods. 3s XL5s and stock motors only. Rx and servo mods ok. The motors are cheap enough that even if you miss on the gearing and burn one down? Your not out much. That will keep it a drivers race if you hold your racers to a spec motor/ESC and chassis. I'd rather fly RC planes than get back into Outlaw RC monster truck racing. Planes break less. I don't even want to race RC anymore, but a low buck, stock spec class is the only way I'd get back in. The Bandit would be great for that. Just keep a tight lid on allowed mods.
Great points. I’ve got bearings and rpm towers along with Exotech rear shafts. That’s pretty much it for mods for me. I do want to try some different motors for it. I may do a spec brushed motor. A cheap Trailmaster 12t by Holmes would be nice.
I was thinking 3S isn't gonna work, but you know what your doing, the motor will last I've been running a 3S XL-5 for a long time in our bandit and no issues....we actually love the bandits tons of fun and cheap....👍👍
So, regarding the motor surviving, the Titan 12T is just a 6v Johnson 550. We use these on 12lb and even some 30lb combat robots and run them on 4 or even 6S without issue. Granted, they're not getting constant current, we only run for 3 minutes, and it's with twice as short of a gear ratio (typically around 16:1). But that's still quite a bit of voltage for something that's supposed to be only rated for 6v.
I have several super modded brushed motors from 20 yrs ago that would shame today's BL motors!😁 Speed gems, & some worth $100's today (but not for sale).
Water brake in the motor , clear all excess grease out of the tranny , switch to ball bearings with light oil in them. Stock servo is good but switch the gears to metal ( theres a kit).
Bought a Bandit for my kids. Brushed and 8.4 Nimh. Works OK but a bit on the slow side. But that means less parts for me to buy :) The wing gives a lot of downforce and it flies much better without.
Draw straight line back of wing & 1/2 " down from top of wing . Now , do straight line around side panels of wing and cut all that excess off. Less drag Helped my street runs on a vxl
I have a vintage bandit that I converted to brushless gears didn't last long...ha but yeah less wing is needed...or maybe an ugly front wing? Interested to see how this develops. Happy rcing!!!
Your a great man Joe!!! Id love one day to shake your hand ✋ your doing what you can to make a fun place for everyone to come and injoy. I totally wish I had the means of doing this. Keep doing what your doing 👏 👌 ✨ 🙌
If you wanna do a budget class, make it a stock class. Not really a budget class if you can upgrade everything. Makes it where more money can win instead of driver and setup. Stock classes are great because people can buy a car and come run it. I run pro 4 and stock slash, both are a blast!
Keeping things box stock is very difficult, certain parts need to be better for durability. Brushed and 2S is limit enough especially on the loose fluffy sand track I have. It will be tonight to get 2S to clear it all with the drag of the sand.
the Typhoons are awesome no doubt but it's just a different experience. There's something about 2wd buggies that are a lot of fun in a different kind of way
@@ExocagedRC ESC fan Holmes hobby 12 turn trailmaster sport that thing would probably go for a while running 3s them proline paddles for the mini E-Revo would probably work pretty good on that I've been wanting it sent for mine bandit although I don't drive my bandit much but it is a fun little car
Are you going to require reverse lock out? Also if not you could program little drag brake with that be interesting. Also the Xl-5 esc has to be programmed for nimh and or lipo. Cool rig love all buggies. -I have front complete bulk head and rear with trans from rustler. I’ve always wanted that wider set up with the bandit chassis and body wing on my proline paddles be cool to run. Great video thank you.
Have these in 2 classes: Open & box stock. Box stock is out of the box, charge the battery, race it. (You will HAVE TO tech EVERY one. Ppl cheat🤷♂️). Open, can change tx/rx, motor, servo, but STOCK chassis (NO extra bearings). Again, u will HAVE TO tech. These have huge turnouts here in Va, TN, GA. Staying 2s in both classes.
Great video and details 👍. Do you know if I can change the body to another shell? Are most same scale shells made to be universal in fitment? I was thinking of an older truck style and saw custom shells and was wondering if they would fit if they are also the same scale.
If you want to have a budget class, you should keep a budget electronics and motor limit. If you leave it wide open it no longer is a budget class. Budget classes should be a driver class not a wallet class
Cool idea just wondering is it just going to be buggies only or are you going to allow short course trucks as well like the two wheel drive brushed slash in the mix I believe they're about the same price right now as well RTR
It's a completely under 2 box stock class but you can run a Tekno chassis, Schumacher belt drive, hobbywing motor, Proline paddles, RPM arms, JConcept body. Like I said box stock class. Hilarious I'm racing a $ 2000 Bandit out the box
The Price cap might be hard to square as some RTR 2wd Buggies, from Associated and Losi for example, can top $200-$250. But then again, you will likely see name brands you never heard of until you saw them.
i'd recommend changing into the VXL hubs so you get the bigger hubs(or atleast i had to on my old bandit) My old bandit was plenty fun on stock 2s, surprisingly so. Also its the XL5HV from trx4 thats 3s capable
Oh. And the XL5HV will release all the magic smoke, if you keep pushing it on 3s. Might survive for a while. But I'd, at the very least, put a fan on it.
"Any brushed motor and ESC" _Any_ brushed motor and ESC? In that case, let me dig up my old Trinity Speed Gems Kryptonite. Yeah, probably gonna want to limit that to any Mabuchi or Johnson 550.
Constructive feedback! You really need to build a proper track. Some real jumps and layout I like watching your channel. Your awesome. Now get an awesome track hahah
@@ExocagedRC I think just haven a track period is great. For those that need a place to play and stay out the drugs and alcohol seen, this track will do fine. It don't have to pro level to injoy. Kids and adults I'm shore will love this cheap, safe place for fun!! Keep up the great job man!!!!
@@mikellewis2346 if i had a track that was that long and even completely flat i would be in heaven. i have 1/3rd of a acre with a house in the middle of it. im not turning the largest 50X20 foot part of my lawn into a track. well maybe if it was the back yard but its the front.
Sell me the other xl5 hv so I can run 3s in my rustler, bandit I went brushless, 120 amp esc and a 5900kv 3650 rocket motor and I run it on 4s destroys tires
Completely open class with the exception of the servo and trans must be out of a $200> ready to run TraxBandit, Redpuss Piranha, Losi MFer or cuchi Kicker, any model Armaa 550. Also any RC on Banggoods
Are the gears in that thing plastic? If so they'll be the first to go once you put paddles on it. I checked on AMain too.. looks like Tamiya has a couple of 2wd buggies that may fit into that class. This will be fun to watch!
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Keep the class 2s. Gearing will be needed for sure, but I think it would be better for what you are trying to accomplish. I love budget racing.
True
I love the Bandit! I would love to see stock buggy classes running Bandits!
Cool! I love going back to basics and a spec or stock 2wd buggy class sounds like a blast and takes me back! 👍🏼🏁🇺🇸
Nice ! I tried 3S with a XL5-HV in a 4-TEC with the brushed 12T Titan, What killed the motor was not the heat, but the output bushing was gone in 10 minutes 😆. Keep it lubricated well and it might last !
My first hobby grade was a 2wd Rustler back in 200O. Electronics were terrible 😆 I immediately upgraded all the electronics and modified the steering to where the turn radios was much better still not a great race truck but fun to bash around the yard though 😁
Budget case is always a good idea 👍🏻
My first Traxxas was a 1/12 Fiero GTP from 1986. How do you think the electronics were in that one? 2000, you were spoiled! haha
This was my first hobby grade rc. Yes... the wing is that effective. Also, there's almost no weight in the front. That's another reason that it pushes so horribly in the corners.
I never tried trimming my wing, I just took it off. I have a 5' ditch I jump off & mine flies better without the wing.
The brushed Traxxas Bandit. What a tank. My son won a A Main with one when he was still 4 years old. Was it fast? Faster than the the other Outlaw 2wd 10th scale rigs? Hell no. They could do 3 laps for every one of his. But they all broke by the second lap and he made 4 before the clock ran out! Almost every Traxxas vehicle has sadly left rear toe adjustment out of the tuning possibilities. 3s VXL Bandits doing close to 70 aren't as bomb proof, but if you keep the battery and motor limits sane, you could have a great low buck spec class. Cheap to get into and cheap to maintain? Perfect. If I were you? I'd allow for some suspension, wheel and tire, and body mods. 3s XL5s and stock motors only. Rx and servo mods ok. The motors are cheap enough that even if you miss on the gearing and burn one down? Your not out much. That will keep it a drivers race if you hold your racers to a spec motor/ESC and chassis. I'd rather fly RC planes than get back into Outlaw RC monster truck racing. Planes break less. I don't even want to race RC anymore, but a low buck, stock spec class is the only way I'd get back in. The Bandit would be great for that. Just keep a tight lid on allowed mods.
Great points. I’ve got bearings and rpm towers along with Exotech rear shafts. That’s pretty much it for mods for me. I do want to try some different motors for it. I may do a spec brushed motor. A cheap Trailmaster 12t by Holmes would be nice.
I was thinking 3S isn't gonna work, but you know what your doing, the motor will last I've been running a 3S XL-5 for a long time in our bandit and no issues....we actually love the bandits tons of fun and cheap....👍👍
So, regarding the motor surviving, the Titan 12T is just a 6v Johnson 550. We use these on 12lb and even some 30lb combat robots and run them on 4 or even 6S without issue. Granted, they're not getting constant current, we only run for 3 minutes, and it's with twice as short of a gear ratio (typically around 16:1). But that's still quite a bit of voltage for something that's supposed to be only rated for 6v.
Bought for my kid for christmas and its so much fun. His is brushless I think.
It doesnt need to cost a lot to have a lot of fun. Great work here, 3s looks awesome for this little buggy
I love class racing!
Man I wish there was more down here!
Always had a soft spot for the bandits lol 😅
Ive always wanted a Bandit VXL, they just seem insane on 3s.
Mine is near 80mph with just a change of the pinion.😅
As for heat, that motor can handle 150°. I race them in a carpet oval and figure 8 slash class and it does just fine.
Once you get it tuned up it'll be great!
I have several super modded brushed motors from 20 yrs ago that would shame today's BL motors!😁 Speed gems, & some worth $100's today (but not for sale).
ALWAYS pays to keep your old gear if you can
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They're worthless nowadays, but sadly outdated. Eh, cd killed cassette, which killed 8 track (my hi school yrs).🤪
i have 4 putnam motors still in box from 4 cell 1/10 oval racing . todays brushed motors suck
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I remember flipping tower hobby catalog listing after speed gems for my 1/10 buggies and on road cars.
Water brake in the motor , clear all excess grease out of the tranny , switch to ball bearings with light oil in them. Stock servo is good but switch the gears to metal ( theres a kit).
This is interesting, I enjoyed watching that lapping - made the track look bigger than normal too! Looking forward to more installments. 👍
Bought a Bandit for my kids. Brushed and 8.4 Nimh. Works OK but a bit on the slow side. But that means less parts for me to buy :) The wing gives a lot of downforce and it flies much better without.
Amazon has a sealed rear diff for that transmission so you can tune it! It makes a huge difference
Hmm neat!
It's fun to just have something to play with that doesn't go 100 miles an hour. Yeah racing makes good brushed motors that only cost about 12 bucks
you might want to put stiffer springs in the rear to help front end push
Draw straight line back of wing & 1/2 " down from top of wing . Now , do straight line around side panels of wing and cut all that excess off. Less drag Helped my street runs on a vxl
Add a lip to your jumps for the smaller rigs? I little kicker might help get the distance.
Love this idea, keep it going!!
that doesnt make much sense. how is sending a car higher gonna make it go further given the same speeds?
I have a vintage bandit that I converted to brushless gears didn't last long...ha but yeah less wing is needed...or maybe an ugly front wing? Interested to see how this develops. Happy rcing!!!
GT5 is my personal favorite radio , Ive had cheap radios Ive had exspensive radioa but I stick with my Flysky.
It is a nice radio and cheap!
Add 1 of the widest spacers to each of the rear shocks. It likes to run stiff..
Your a great man Joe!!! Id love one day to shake your hand ✋ your doing what you can to make a fun place for everyone to come and injoy. I totally wish I had the means of doing this. Keep doing what your doing 👏 👌 ✨ 🙌
If you wanna do a budget class, make it a stock class. Not really a budget class if you can upgrade everything. Makes it where more money can win instead of driver and setup. Stock classes are great because people can buy a car and come run it. I run pro 4 and stock slash, both are a blast!
Keeping things box stock is very difficult, certain parts need to be better for durability. Brushed and 2S is limit enough especially on the loose fluffy sand track I have. It will be tonight to get 2S to clear it all with the drag of the sand.
2wd for the win 🤟. Love running my losi 22s and ruckus sct. Deff a dif driving style.
Probably more of a weight issue being the motor, transmission, esc, and everything heavy in the rear
Bandit wingless(sprint) class is where it’s at!
i feel like the brushed typhon class would be awesome!! their less then 200 and their 4 wheel drive
the Typhoons are awesome no doubt but it's just a different experience. There's something about 2wd buggies that are a lot of fun in a different kind of way
This seems cool . Hope you show racing videos. Thanks
6oz fishing weight up front will help a lot. Made my 2wd drive pede so much better handling and jumping.
If you had to you could use that jst connector on that ESC and put a fan on it to keep it from overheating
This is true. I may just do that.
@@ExocagedRC ESC fan Holmes hobby 12 turn trailmaster sport that thing would probably go for a while running 3s them proline paddles for the mini E-Revo would probably work pretty good on that I've been wanting it sent for mine bandit although I don't drive my bandit much but it is a fun little car
Awesome im going to grab a bandit now great video👊
Ooohhhh, she is beautiful 😍 Thank for this brushed serious 🙂👍👍👍🥳🤩
My first and favorite even car. My second favorite is the hoss
I think you should keep the class bone stock, Maybe some kids can't afford gyro and bearings and better servos. Then maybe a mod class.
Are you going to require reverse lock out? Also if not you could program little drag brake with that be interesting. Also the Xl-5 esc has to be programmed for nimh and or lipo. Cool rig love all buggies.
-I have front complete bulk head and rear with trans from rustler. I’ve always wanted that wider set up with the bandit chassis and body wing on my proline paddles be cool to run. Great video thank you.
If you go with 3s power, I would run a motor with more turns. I run an 18-turn 550 on my Bandit with 23/90 gearing.
I got a heart attack when I heard he was gonna run it on 3s and I kept yelling “NO DONT DONT!!”
look the sticker on the chassis and you will understand hou to switch to 3s .... you need ro hold the power buttom 10 second to make the switch
Have these in 2 classes: Open & box stock. Box stock is out of the box, charge the battery, race it. (You will HAVE TO tech EVERY one. Ppl cheat🤷♂️).
Open, can change tx/rx, motor, servo, but STOCK chassis (NO extra bearings). Again, u will HAVE TO tech.
These have huge turnouts here in Va, TN, GA. Staying 2s in both classes.
Power can make a crappy driver decent. Level field brings out the BEST drivers, especially in 2wd.
What rims are those on the 2.2 Panther tires? I think those are gonna look Awesome on the Bandit
I have the exact same one I got it for 90$ used in mint condition. I wanna see yours run 3s
I did 3S in this video
I’m in St Johns not too far from you. Would love to be part of a budget class.
Awesome man. Come on out. I open every sunday.
Put fans on motor and esc...I did on my tamiya hotshot
Yes you need to trim that wing about an 8th inches of time do you get more of a level flight
I like what your doing here. Very nice! Like button engaged.
Definitely would love to see more of this in my area 👍 I subd! I have a 2wd Slash I turned into a buggy.
I see a Bandit HD on the traxxas website today
Great video and details 👍.
Do you know if I can change the body to another shell? Are most same scale shells made to be universal in fitment?
I was thinking of an older truck style and saw custom shells and was wondering if they would fit if they are also the same scale.
I wish Traxxas would spot me 20 rustlers to start a weekly summer course
I’ve tried that with a few brands and no luck
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@@ExocagedRC someday bro
2'wd Traxxas is a gateway drug !
Just got an old losi 22b 2.0 with spektrum radio, body, losi 13.5 motor and esc for $140 shipped. Im just a basher (could race it too).
Habe meinen umgebaut auf robitronic brushles 3200 kv an 2s die Hölle.
I'm partial to the rustler myself. Nowhere to race near me tho so I just bash a granite these days.
If you want to have a budget class, you should keep a budget electronics and motor limit. If you leave it wide open it no longer is a budget class.
Budget classes should be a driver class not a wallet class
Cool idea just wondering is it just going to be buggies only or are you going to allow short course trucks as well like the two wheel drive brushed slash in the mix I believe they're about the same price right now as well RTR
I like the blue better!
It's a completely under 2 box stock class but you can run a Tekno chassis, Schumacher belt drive, hobbywing motor, Proline paddles, RPM arms, JConcept body. Like I said box stock class. Hilarious I'm racing a $ 2000 Bandit out the box
Are we ever gonna see the SCX6 with the new green cage? Nice job
JOE has already posted the video sir✌🏼
@@mikebird8290 I guess I have to be a member
@@Miguel.herrera.71it's in Joe's video list for all to see sir
Really love the track mate!
May have to stiffen the fronts a bit as well.
I’m new to the bandit so I’ll be just doing things to see what happens 😂
Bandits are fun i have a vxl one i dont race it just for fun.....
The Price cap might be hard to square as some RTR 2wd Buggies, from Associated and Losi for example, can top $200-$250. But then again, you will likely see name brands you never heard of until you saw them.
You could do 2 classes bone stock class and a pro mod class😎
i'd recommend changing into the VXL hubs so you get the bigger hubs(or atleast i had to on my old bandit)
My old bandit was plenty fun on stock 2s, surprisingly so.
Also its the XL5HV from trx4 thats 3s capable
I thought you couldn't run 3s with xl5. You need xl53s
You can't. Lol
You can get them for 169 out the door from amain.
Are you going to add those two wheel drive slash to the class stock brushed
Hi mate great video nice information love the car pal 👍👌😀
I wander how well a 21t Torquemaster 550 from Holmes Hobbies performs in one of those.
Nice! Maybe try a Mini-T class as well?
Ran associated minis for a while, castles system in those made them capable of 1/8 scale tracks. Capable but a glass cannon.
Use a 100c or 120c 2s battery. It will give you a lot more punch.
Was a super video.
Perfect my for rb10!!
Would the 2wd brushed slash be able to compete too? I have a couple of slashes brushed running 2s
I’d love to see some 2wd brushed slashes. They’d be awesome with paddles too
Oh. And the XL5HV will release all the magic smoke, if you keep pushing it on 3s.
Might survive for a while. But I'd, at the very least, put a fan on it.
I’ll give it time to see when it poofs and dies who knows.
Are you going to be able to change bodies
Is this anywhere near Savannah Georgia?
"Any brushed motor and ESC"
_Any_ brushed motor and ESC? In that case, let me dig up my old Trinity Speed Gems Kryptonite.
Yeah, probably gonna want to limit that to any Mabuchi or Johnson 550.
Perfekt Beginner Car...
Constructive feedback! You really need to build a proper track. Some real jumps and layout I like watching your channel. Your awesome. Now get an awesome track hahah
Buddy I simply can’t afford a proper track. Way too much money.
@@ExocagedRC I think just haven a track period is great. For those that need a place to play and stay out the drugs and alcohol seen, this track will do fine. It don't have to pro level to injoy. Kids and adults I'm shore will love this cheap, safe place for fun!! Keep up the great job man!!!!
@@mikellewis2346 if i had a track that was that long and even completely flat i would be in heaven. i have 1/3rd of a acre with a house in the middle of it. im not turning the largest 50X20 foot part of my lawn into a track. well maybe if it was the back yard but its the front.
So a used RC10 under $200.00 will be legal?
Mine wont run 3s on the stock xl5 esc
Yeah I found out they don’t work on 3S
Sell me the other xl5 hv so I can run 3s in my rustler, bandit I went brushless, 120 amp esc and a 5900kv 3650 rocket motor and I run it on 4s destroys tires
Completely open class with the exception of the servo and trans must be out of a $200> ready to run TraxBandit, Redpuss Piranha, Losi MFer or cuchi Kicker, any model Armaa 550. Also any RC on Banggoods
Are the gears in that thing plastic? If so they'll be the first to go once you put paddles on it. I checked on AMain too.. looks like Tamiya has a couple of 2wd buggies that may fit into that class. This will be fun to watch!
I'd suggest no gyro receivers, the gt5 has a non gyro receivers available. Make it all driver.
Umm.. did they not realize tyco used the bandit name in the 90s?
Traxxas, way over priced brushed motor Rc's. I build my own faster stronger and better for half the price.
At the point you’re at now you’d be better off running Associated RB10’s and keeping them box stock.
rb10 is much better but are more expensive.
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Creeping up over $200.00 fast.
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Sorry dude. You bought it just like every other RUclipsr and hopped on a bandwagon. Good job buddy.