very interesting, as someone who never really worried about all this when making videos, I would just fix what was blatantly obvious, but I think I need to up my game. Thanks.
Great content as usual! I’m already following u since the beginning and I remember the day I found you here I spent a lot of time viewing your videos in different color references and different setups…what a great job! I’ve learned a lot till now and I’m just starting to implement something…now I’m planing to buy a proper monitor to worker better on color. Congrats and tks for sharing this awesome knowledge! All the best for you 🙌
Thank you very much! If you can, look at the LG Ultrafine 5K. It has never let me down and you can get it for cheap since it‘s a few years old. You might want to calibrate it but it‘s a fantastic sub-1000€ display. And thank you for your kind words! It sure has been a ride… :D But this is just the beginning - as you‘ll see in next week‘s video. :)
Great video because so few color grading tutorials go into why to use one tool and not another. So many color grading tutorials are "do this, do this do this to get that" without explaining why specific tools should be chosen depending on the objective. You should definitely expand on that through each of the tools including Color Curves and Color Masks. Even when to use Color Temperature Slider vs Global Color Wheel Hue adjustment.
How do you like that Lift mouse? It's an absolute dream, is it not?! Great work, new sub. A little more information than I needed...BUT, the information is there if I really need to dive in deeper for better understanding. Thank you!
Honestly those sat color wheel adjustments are my absolute favorite tools to use and works well 90% of the shots. Very specific instances like this one clip you showed is where the luma vs sat curves is more precise. It’s extremely fast to dial in compared to adjusting curves. I would never recommend STOP using that tool altogether and just reference where it falls short and which tool to use instead. So my main complaint is your title which obviously gets more clicks. But this tool is very powerful and worth using most of the time.
Thank you! If it's not broken, then don't fix it. When adjusting saturation, I always want the most control. That, of course, comes at the cost of convenience. I'm making a case for control over convenience here, but if the tool gets done what you want to accomplish, everything is fine. I can see where you're coming from with the title, but you got it. Additionally, I presupposed one wants to have granular control. In that case, it's almost undoubtedly the wrong tool.
I think that you are spending most of the video explaining the limitations of the toolset in that software - Might suggest to switch to Davinci Resolve and then only the primary wheels work as your diagram is showing. In Resolve you have quite a few options - even on the regular wheels - LOG wheels have range points that can be changed - the HDR tool has zones that can be set in photometric stops with roll off/saturation and exposure. You can set them wherever you wish and add and name as many zones as your want. The primary wheels that you are using here are designed so that they blend as you change them to keep a smooth curve. That is how all traditional color wheels have always worked. But you are correct in showing the limitations, but the solution is to do color grading in a better software for color grading.
I see where you're coming from. However, the colour wheels in Final Cut Pro are similar to Lift/Gamma/Gain/Offset in resolve. In resolve, you face the same issue if you're using these wheels. You'd need to be aware of that to choose the log-wheels instead. And I wanted this video to be in the middle, at the point of realisation. :)
@@iamericlenz yes, that was my point - if the tools in FCPX have that limitation - there are tools in Resolve that will overcome those limitations. The actual way in the ranges overlap is by design in both. Any grade will blend smoother by the overlap and rolloff into the other step up or down in luminance. The pivot points are set logically into partmental positions. My point is that if that is not adequate that there are other tools to do the same thing and have that flexibility or choice. The more complexities that are added, the more ways there are to make it look worse as well. Lift, gamma, gain and offset will blend the use of each to a smoother result. So for actual genreal grading it is preferable. Lots of scalpels to then use in secondaries to do surgery on your footage.
Agreed. Though, I should mention that my mission is to teach colour in FCP. I learned everything in resolve but I’m not a colourist anymore. As a one-man-show, FCP is the better tool for me. That motivated me to start doing this. For everyone who wants to go beyond, Resolve is a fantastic tool. But I’d argue if you have a conceptual understanding of what you’re doing, you could get 80% there in FCP as well. Regarding hyper-targeted adjustments, I definitely as well. That’s why I added the words of caution in the end. :)
very interesting, as someone who never really worried about all this when making videos, I would just fix what was blatantly obvious, but I think I need to up my game. Thanks.
Haha, you're welcome! :)
great explanation...please make a video about hue/luma masking and tracking skin tones...using hue/sat curves
Great Idea! Any specific questions I should include?
This was such a well thought out and organized video! I will never use those handles on the color wheels again! Thanks :)
Glad it was helpful! And thank you very much! :)
Great content as usual!
I’m already following u since the beginning and I remember the day I found you here I spent a lot of time viewing your videos in different color references and different setups…what a great job!
I’ve learned a lot till now and I’m just starting to implement something…now I’m planing to buy a proper monitor to worker better on color.
Congrats and tks for sharing this awesome knowledge!
All the best for you 🙌
Thank you very much! If you can, look at the LG Ultrafine 5K. It has never let me down and you can get it for cheap since it‘s a few years old. You might want to calibrate it but it‘s a fantastic sub-1000€ display.
And thank you for your kind words! It sure has been a ride… :D But this is just the beginning - as you‘ll see in next week‘s video. :)
Great video because so few color grading tutorials go into why to use one tool and not another.
So many color grading tutorials are "do this, do this do this to get that" without explaining why specific tools should be chosen depending on the objective.
You should definitely expand on that through each of the tools including Color Curves and Color Masks. Even when to use Color Temperature Slider vs Global Color Wheel Hue adjustment.
Thank you!
Noted! This is a great idea. I'll do a video on that! :)
I had no idea about that. Great advice as always. Many thanks Eric👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you and you‘re welcome! :)
How do you like that Lift mouse? It's an absolute dream, is it not?!
Great work, new sub. A little more information than I needed...BUT, the information is there if I really need to dive in deeper for better understanding. Thank you!
Welcome aboard! :)
Yes, the Lift is fantastic. Though, I wouldn't buy a white one again. The stains are pretty significant.
@@iamericlenz yes they definitely are! I have a white one as well and I use it in my shop so it looks like 💩
Awesome explanation, Eric! 👊🏼
Dylan! Thank you so much! 😎
Thanks for educating us!
My pleasure! :)
Great video with understandable explanation! 👏
Thank you very much!
Great tutorial 👏👏👏
Thank you! Cheers!
Why do you delete those control points FCP added when you are sampling? You did it a few times, but I'm not sure why...
Either to set them myself or to smooth the slope of the curve. :)
Honestly those sat color wheel adjustments are my absolute favorite tools to use and works well 90% of the shots. Very specific instances like this one clip you showed is where the luma vs sat curves is more precise. It’s extremely fast to dial in compared to adjusting curves. I would never recommend STOP using that tool altogether and just reference where it falls short and which tool to use instead. So my main complaint is your title which obviously gets more clicks. But this tool is very powerful and worth using most of the time.
Thank you! If it's not broken, then don't fix it. When adjusting saturation, I always want the most control. That, of course, comes at the cost of convenience. I'm making a case for control over convenience here, but if the tool gets done what you want to accomplish, everything is fine.
I can see where you're coming from with the title, but you got it. Additionally, I presupposed one wants to have granular control. In that case, it's almost undoubtedly the wrong tool.
thank you
You're welcome :)
Thanks Awesome!🤯
Thank you! My pleasure! :D :)
Da sage ich doch DANKESCHÖN :-) / Thanks for Your valuable information!
Danke und gerne! :)
Whats with the eye appearing at 5:55?
Just a running gag on the channel. :D
I think that you are spending most of the video explaining the limitations of the toolset in that software - Might suggest to switch to Davinci Resolve and then only the primary wheels work as your diagram is showing. In Resolve you have quite a few options - even on the regular wheels - LOG wheels have range points that can be changed - the HDR tool has zones that can be set in photometric stops with roll off/saturation and exposure. You can set them wherever you wish and add and name as many zones as your want.
The primary wheels that you are using here are designed so that they blend as you change them to keep a smooth curve. That is how all traditional color wheels have always worked. But you are correct in showing the limitations, but the solution is to do color grading in a better software for color grading.
Going blind into a "better" software doesn't make you use it correctly. Its still valuable knowledge.
I see where you're coming from. However, the colour wheels in Final Cut Pro are similar to Lift/Gamma/Gain/Offset in resolve. In resolve, you face the same issue if you're using these wheels. You'd need to be aware of that to choose the log-wheels instead. And I wanted this video to be in the middle, at the point of realisation. :)
@@iamericlenz yes, that was my point - if the tools in FCPX have that limitation - there are tools in Resolve that will overcome those limitations. The actual way in the ranges overlap is by design in both. Any grade will blend smoother by the overlap and rolloff into the other step up or down in luminance. The pivot points are set logically into partmental positions. My point is that if that is not adequate that there are other tools to do the same thing and have that flexibility or choice. The more complexities that are added, the more ways there are to make it look worse as well.
Lift, gamma, gain and offset will blend the use of each to a smoother result. So for actual genreal grading it is preferable.
Lots of scalpels to then use in secondaries to do surgery on your footage.
Agreed. Though, I should mention that my mission is to teach colour in FCP. I learned everything in resolve but I’m not a colourist anymore. As a one-man-show, FCP is the better tool for me. That motivated me to start doing this. For everyone who wants to go beyond, Resolve is a fantastic tool. But I’d argue if you have a conceptual understanding of what you’re doing, you could get 80% there in FCP as well.
Regarding hyper-targeted adjustments, I definitely as well. That’s why I added the words of caution in the end. :)
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so nobody noticed the eye in the video around 5:55................
Yeah, I was surprised, too… :D