@4:09 listen very carefully what she says, Now let me tell you a Fact, when during the Ram-Janm-Bhoomi Case, court asked her officially if she academically knows the language Sanskrit or Not, her official answer was "NO"... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You see, this is often the fundamental issue with the right-wing half-read rabid religious/ultra-nationalist fanatics like you - it boils down to trumpeting victory by pointing at apparently 'many loopholes' in genuine historians' arguments that obviously do not toe in line with the imagined pseudohistorical devotional history the saffron chimpanzees subscribe to, and yeah ! add a bunch of laughing emojis onto a lecture in order to demean academic skepticism. One does not need to know Arabic or Sanskrit to judge and study a historical period. By not 'knowing sanskrit' does not mean she had never had access to sanskrit texts because today is the age of digital lexicons, multiple online sources at one's fingertips and access to thousands of books, in this way, one does not need to know Sanskrit in order to examine those texts because a PhD scholar has other ways to go in depth into these arcane texts and sometimes far better than a traditionalist. I know whence come this argument 'she does not know sanskrit language therefore she is not credible', apart from a deep psychological trauma which is held in a Hindutva fanatic's head, these imbecile tropes are spread by likes of Ravi Dixit, and Sanjay Dixit of Jaipur Dialogue (I often listen to them when I cannot find my comic book). Secondly, the Ram-Janam Bhoomi has not even an iota of historical basis other than an emotional commitment to a mythology which is now no more an innocent mythology but a political tool to subvert facts with fiction. I know it butt-hurts come of you, and this is creepy true. You can simply brush her under carpet by saying 'I cannot trust these leftist marxist historians' - a group than often invokes colonial remnants in the modern India, or the last resistance towers against the Mission Saffronization of History. The bad news is - the truth shall prevail.
@@salmanhyder1655 Kashi Mathura Baaqi hai... Barbarians destroyed our Civilizational monuments to "Subvert" people's mind... It's time to take over the civilisation WE belong to... It's not some petty emotion, it's Dharma... I invite you to Either be a part of it or be a Spectator... Thank You.
@@salmanhyder1655 I have read Romila Thapar enough to make a judgement about her writings. Her writings are reasonably credible for the most part but her conclusions clearly show her biases. I can give you not one, not ten, but hundreds of loopholes in her writings. She IS a leftist marxist historian but that doesn't make me dislike her. I genuinely admire Bipan Chandra, Ranajit Guha and also the "non-Marxist" Ramchandra Guha but unfortunately, I cannot admire a person who says that King Yudhistr got inspired from Ashoka. From your name, it's evident that you are a Muslim and obviously, your grievances over the Ram Janmabhoomi case has not been redressed. I would like to extend my sympathy towards yourself but it's high time you get over it. Everything about Ram Janmabhoomi is *true* and is proven by the archeological findings. Just swallow the bitter pill or... you can cope while reading the facts: www.sci.gov.in/pdf/JUD_2.pdf
I am more accurate than historical texts ?? Many mentally derailed ( with due respect to them) have symptoms df being better than others. They need professional support to overcome this challenge.
do you study all languages of the world to take up history writing? so many Indians have written history of Asia? do they know Chinese, Japanese etc? if no, how do they write histories of china, Japan , Korea? can you enlighten?
1)“Signatory is reflected to Greek period”- to this I would just say that it is common sense, try sending a ring of your son in law to you daughter in law. 2)”Ramayana and Mahabharata are stories which are an amalgamation” if they are mere stories then find their actual dates. What about the Ram Setu bridge, for your knowledge the mountain that Hanuman uprooted to bring the Sanjeevani, their predecessors do not praise, pray or like Hanuman, if you are a historian try visit the place. There is also a cave in Pithoragarh Uttarakhand called Patal Bhuvneshwar, The cave, it is believed, is connected by an underground route to Mount Kailash. It is believed that the Pandavas and their wife Draupadi, the heroes of the Mahabharata, proceeded towards their last journey in the Himalayas after meditating here, in front of Lord Shiva. There are infact many places in Uttarakhand which are a proof of these scripts. Some places were found because of these sacred scripts. I don’t even envy you because you are so full of yourself. Relax you are already old, try not to get a heart attack while debating okay.
For Indology to be meaningful internationally, it has to be evidential and critical. I find Thapar to be very rigorous and stimulating. I want to learn more from her. I am Taiwanese and interested in India.
Please don't ever try to do that. You can learn about india from other authentic sources. This lady is a self proclaimed historian. In reality, she is a leftist peddling propaganda against india , hindus and their culture. She should be thrown behind the bars actually. Fake historian...
Romila Thapar is a Jihadi historian who has distorted everything to criticize and malign Hindus and provide cover to Jihadis. She became prominent as all the resources of the government under Nehru Gandhi mafia went to support and promote her -- she was family and fellow Jihadi.
Thapar was not asked to assess the authenticity of the Ramayan or the existence of God or whether Hindu's should have faith - NO ! She was asked if there was a Temple under the Babri Masjid that was demolished ? Did the hindu community consider this site sacred and worship there ? Simple Historical questions ! What was the evidence ! No one whats her opinions on Hinduism as a faith or religion ! Not her bloody business what people believe in !!!
@@kusali11 one thing better the left should keep in mind the India cultural identity comes from Indian subcontinent religion wether it is Hindu, Buddhism, Jainism or sikhsim.... sorry to say but the western religion like Islam and Christianity has brutal history on India
@@SumitKumar-tr5ww no disrespect intended but you need to provide counter arguments to the arguments she's making here, about dating texts. I think that's the best way we can all learn something.
@@SumitKumar-tr5ww The western religions certainly had a brutal past in India, this fact should not be forgotten, you are 100% correct. However we can't say we've been particularly kind to each other either prior to the western and near eastern invaders. The past should be known, but those people who are Indian and have converted are no less Indian. In this modern age without unity, we won't progress.
To BOLO chhote moshi.accurate KEYA HAI. KAVYA YA HISTORY. known to me character is not history.kavyik history history HAI.khadan ! Akash ganga kahtee HAI. Moshi age bado?
@4:09 listen very carefully what she says, Now let me tell you a Fact, when during the Ram-Janm-Bhoomi Case, court asked her officially if she academically knows the language Sanskrit or Not, her official answer was "NO"... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You see, this is often the fundamental issue with the right-wing half-read rabid religious/ultra-nationalist fanatics like you - it boils down to trumpeting victory by pointing at apparently 'many loopholes' in genuine historians' arguments that obviously do not toe in line with the imagined pseudohistorical devotional history the saffron chimpanzees subscribe to, and yeah ! add a bunch of laughing emojis onto a lecture in order to demean academic skepticism. One does not need to know Arabic or Sanskrit to judge and study a historical period. By not 'knowing sanskrit' does not mean she had never had access to sanskrit texts because today is the age of digital lexicons, multiple online sources at one's fingertips and access to thousands of books, in this way, one does not need to know Sanskrit in order to examine those texts because a PhD scholar has other ways to go in depth into these arcane texts and sometimes far better than a traditionalist. I know whence come this argument 'she does not know sanskrit language therefore she is not credible', apart from a deep psychological trauma which is held in a Hindutva fanatic's head, these imbecile tropes are spread by likes of Ravi Dixit, and Sanjay Dixit of Jaipur Dialogue (I often listen to them when I cannot find my comic book). Secondly, the Ram-Janam Bhoomi has not even an iota of historical basis other than an emotional commitment to a mythology which is now no more an innocent mythology but a political tool to subvert facts with fiction. I know it butt-hurts come of you, and this is creepy true. You can simply brush her under carpet by saying 'I cannot trust these leftist marxist historians' - a group than often invokes colonial remnants in the modern India, or the last resistance towers against the Mission Saffronization of History. The bad news is - the truth shall prevail.
@@salmanhyder1655 Kashi Mathura Baaqi hai... Barbarians destroyed our Civilizational monuments to "Subvert" people's mind... It's time to take over the civilisation WE belong to... It's not some petty emotion, it's Dharma... I invite you to Either be a part of it or be a Spectator... Thank You.
@@salmanhyder1655 And it's people like you who feed gibberish yourself and feed others as well.
British long gone but chamchas remains.
@@randomguy1601 Don't argue brother, they are blind and following a blind.
@@salmanhyder1655 I have read Romila Thapar enough to make a judgement about her writings. Her writings are reasonably credible for the most part but her conclusions clearly show her biases. I can give you not one, not ten, but hundreds of loopholes in her writings. She IS a leftist marxist historian but that doesn't make me dislike her. I genuinely admire Bipan Chandra, Ranajit Guha and also the "non-Marxist" Ramchandra Guha but unfortunately, I cannot admire a person who says that King Yudhistr got inspired from Ashoka.
From your name, it's evident that you are a Muslim and obviously, your grievances over the Ram Janmabhoomi case has not been redressed. I would like to extend my sympathy towards yourself but it's high time you get over it. Everything about Ram Janmabhoomi is *true* and is proven by the archeological findings. Just swallow the bitter pill or... you can cope while reading the facts: www.sci.gov.in/pdf/JUD_2.pdf
I am more accurate than historical texts ?? Many mentally derailed ( with due respect to them) have symptoms df being better than others. They need professional support to overcome this challenge.
do you study all languages of the world to take up history writing? so many Indians have written history of Asia? do they know Chinese, Japanese etc? if no, how do they write histories of china, Japan , Korea? can you enlighten?
1)“Signatory is reflected to Greek period”- to this I would just say that it is common sense, try sending a ring of your son in law to you daughter in law.
2)”Ramayana and Mahabharata are stories which are an amalgamation” if they are mere stories then find their actual dates. What about the Ram Setu bridge, for your knowledge the mountain that Hanuman uprooted to bring the Sanjeevani, their predecessors do not praise, pray or like Hanuman, if you are a historian try visit the place. There is also a cave in Pithoragarh Uttarakhand called Patal Bhuvneshwar,
The cave, it is believed, is connected by an underground route to Mount Kailash. It is believed that the Pandavas and their wife Draupadi, the heroes of the Mahabharata, proceeded towards their last journey in the Himalayas after meditating here, in front of Lord Shiva.
There are infact many places in Uttarakhand which are a proof of these scripts. Some places were found because of these sacred scripts.
I don’t even envy you because you are so full of yourself. Relax you are already old, try not to get a heart attack while debating okay.
For Indology to be meaningful internationally, it has to be evidential and critical. I find Thapar to be very rigorous and stimulating. I want to learn more from her. I am Taiwanese and interested in India.
Please don't ever try to do that. You can learn about india from other authentic sources. This lady is a self proclaimed historian. In reality, she is a leftist peddling propaganda against india , hindus and their culture. She should be thrown behind the bars actually. Fake historian...
Please don't learn a thing from this lady
Don't learn from this historian. She's JK Rowling of India.
@@liliesandtulips2000 Which historians have you read and would recommend to us?
@@krishanu-d1k Which historians have you read and would recommend to us?
Romila Thapar is a Jihadi historian who has distorted everything to criticize and malign Hindus and provide cover to Jihadis. She became prominent as all the resources of the government under Nehru Gandhi mafia went to support and promote her -- she was family and fellow Jihadi.
If she is a Jihadi, then, for sure, you're a braindead Hindu Atangwadi.
Which historians have you read and would recommend to us?
@@AmanKumar-de1kc Ofcoure he did not reply
@@AmanKumar-de1kcgo and read specific writers of different aspect...
these historians are just a garbage
@@AmanKumar-de1kcif u r genuine curious then u can start with Sitaram goel,
Thapar was not asked to assess the authenticity of the Ramayan or the existence of God or whether Hindu's should have faith - NO !
She was asked if there was a Temple under the Babri Masjid that was demolished ?
Did the hindu community consider this site sacred and worship there ? Simple Historical questions !
What was the evidence !
No one whats her opinions on Hinduism as a faith or religion ! Not her bloody business what people believe in !!!
She is out of her mind..... She think her bokas theaury is right.
please tell why she is wrong? I am open minded.
@@kusali11she is trying to express something which is out of the history....
@@kusali11 one thing better the left should keep in mind the India cultural identity comes from Indian subcontinent religion wether it is Hindu, Buddhism, Jainism or sikhsim.... sorry to say but the western religion like Islam and Christianity has brutal history on India
@@SumitKumar-tr5ww no disrespect intended but you need to provide counter arguments to the arguments she's making here, about dating texts. I think that's the best way we can all learn something.
@@SumitKumar-tr5ww The western religions certainly had a brutal past in India, this fact should not be forgotten, you are 100% correct. However we can't say we've been particularly kind to each other either prior to the western and near eastern invaders. The past should be known, but those people who are Indian and have converted are no less Indian. In this modern age without unity, we won't progress.
To BOLO chhote moshi.accurate KEYA HAI. KAVYA YA HISTORY. known to me character is not history.kavyik history history HAI.khadan ! Akash ganga kahtee HAI.
Moshi age bado?
Linguistic. I am not your child ,Mam ma said,but you are my moshi.
Respect
Lol, a story teller is so called a historian. How funny 🤣
Expert of ancient India who doesn't even understand Sanskrit and Archaeology.. Marxist queen😂😂😂