I am 67 years old l go yo the gym three times a week and have done fir the past three years, l love leg days and with my personal trainer can leg press a maximum of 335 kg leg press full reps , l start off at 200 kg three sets of 10 , but due to Covid lockdown l am down to 250 kg but it’s increasing 👍🇬🇧 whatever age you are get to the gym
Leucine & citrulline before leucine after, enough taurine & creatine. What I have learned yesterday. I forgot. Don't drink more than essential. Deuterium will ravage your mitochondria. If it didn't already.
Very Interesting interview, I’m 55 years now and went all Keto around 8 months ago and started training 6 days a week and now I can tell myself that I am in the best shape of my life, weight as much as when I was 20 something but have more muscles. Also, my cognitive functions have increased greatly ; I remember things I read much, much better and lighter so I am the living proof that she is right . Best regards you all Franz
Me too brother (55) but I only started 3 months ago. Plus I was a glutten, type 2 diabetic. Diabetes is practically gone and though I can't see my 6 pack YET. I can feel them, which I wasn't able to do in the last two decades. I started Keto, not to lose weight but to fix my damaged insulin system. But I have lst ALL facial and neck fat, arm fat and leg fat. Plus I have lost about 20% visceral fat. In 3 MONTHS. What an added bonus.
@@truthorpropaganda9001 , Great to hear that man, keep doing it !! For me is a mindset, I want that my body works as best as long as possible, period. I'm an introvert so spend maybe 100 hours reading about nutrition, keto, vegan , Lyon etc and decided to go keto cause it works for me ( and love cheese way too much ) I also realised that the amount of protein is crucial not only for my muscle growth but for my health . A few years ago, you tell me to eat fat and I tell you your are crazy ha ha ha , now I eat bacon and dip my toast ( keto bread ) into the remaining fat .... I still can't believe that fat is the best energy source from all . It took me around 1 year to clearly show my 6 pack and I am working on my 8 th pack ... some day ha ha Take care Best regards Franz
@@franzjosefmueller-alban509 Yep also a cheese lover. And love nuts also. So a lifestyle that promotes parmesian, macadamia nuts and walnuts was a glorius find. And also like you brother, I found I have to eat at least 30-40 percent protein or I just dont feel right. I eat very few carbs. Practically zero except in the cheese, nuts and unsweetened cocoa. You know everybodys metabolism is different but one meal I find that makes me feel amazing is 3 free range eggs fried in grass fed butter and a can of asparagus with some more grass fed butter melted on it and cooked in the microwave. I actually just dump the eggs over the aspargus and eat it all together in a bowl. For me, this meal is super food as far as energy, and just how good i feel. Take care as well brother. Imagine how we would look if we would have had this knowledge in our 20's...lol.
@@truthorpropaganda9001 , yeah, each of us has to find what works best , I don’t believe in : one diet works for all type of argument. On work days I eat 3 times a day , weekends 2 with intermittent fasting on Sundays… best part ? I’m not hungry, that I found amazing!! About the age , totally on point but then again, I look terrific for an 55 year old so…. I just came back from my Sundays run ( 12 k ) and I am trying to beat the 1 hour mark . Best regards Franz
65 female here. Always worked out with weights until covid. Now back weight lifting running hills Never been on meds. No need for meds if you take care of yourself.
Great interview with Dr. Lyon. I like the analogy she made that people have become too domesticated and sedentary. Very important fact: it’s the amount of muscle we carry that determines longevity, not how slender.we are.
The amount of muscle that you have going into old age [helps] determine longevity. As mentioned in the other two comments, sarcopenia is a natural occurrence to some degree, so developing sufficient bone structure and muscle mass as a younger adult is important. Sufficient, optimal, and jacked are not synonyms.
The bottom line is that we were not designed to live sedentary lifestyles. We must keep our diets under control to stay lean with enough protein to maintain muscle as we age.
She's awesome. Been following her for a little over a year now. Learned tons. Her RUclips channel is worth checking out as she has segments with Dr layman in nearly every episode.
There were so many gems in this interview that I will be incorporating into my fitness regiment, and add it to the mentality. Loved the address of the truth that our current medical profession is oriented around problems, not prevention. Also the pushing of pharmaceuticals. I’m going to listen to this again.
Very excited about this! Exercise physiologists have been saying these things for decades. Her killer looks(elephant in the room) are beneficial for bringing it into mainstream, Old men with lab coats unfortunately is not conductive in today's social media environment.
I can honestly say after almost 5 years carnivore my brain is sharper, my memory is better and my rational thinking is not influenced by false fears and feelings. I saw a slide in my thinking and reasoning skills in my late 40s. I was having issues making life choices and had really fuzzy short term memory issues. Now at 65 and almost 5 years carnivore, I have people coming to me just to get input into their lives. I am being sought out just for advice. This floors me as even 5 years ago I would have considered myself barely smarter than a 5th grader. Carnivore healed my body and my mind. Carbohydrates were my problem. No more, I eat none. Is it for everyone? I believe so. But 95% of the people I tell about being strict carnivore think om crazy. Yet they refuse to enter into an honest debate, simply because their defense of eating carbohydrates is.... I cant live without them... But a cold hard fact of life is carbohydrates are NOT essential. And boys and girls, you cannot escape that FACT.
It’s def not for everybody I think when you blend more of a Weston a price approach we’re you get a mix of things and keep the gut healthy you’ve reached the pinnacle of health
@Dust storm - uh...maybe a bit misinformed, there, about the need for carbs, I think? Watch Dr. Lyon interview her mentor, Dr.. Donald Layman about carbs. I just watched it. The segment is called, 'The key to carbohydrates." You will need to be open to the possibility that you may be thinking about some of your new dietary beliefs in the wrong way. S o, I'd recommend you watch that interview with an open mind. I was a vegetarian for 6 years (animal lover... believing that animal protein is the same as plant protein - not fair to the animals, blah, blah). And then one day I came upon an interview of Dr. Lyon on Tom Bilyeu's podcast. I felt so insulted (& defensive!) that she was promoting eating animal protein, and lots of it! But then I realized...'Hey she's talking about me! (skinny fat) a term my own (Navy Seal) son had ascribed to me, and I think that the host in that interview, or maybe someone in the comments section probably used that term also 'skinny fat', I really sat up and took notice! So, instead of switching off the interview, I realized (because she is heavily credentialed and made so much sense, to me,, that... if I didn't change my diet, and immediately I was headed for a future of sarcopenia -at best - and, at worst, a whole host of medical problems. I felt like you, also. I was getting sick alot and often had brain fog. I've always heavily exercised, but my regimin had gradually fallen off. I just did not have the energy to keep that going consistently. Dr. Lyon mentioned in that interview that someone like me (I'm paraphrasing here) - but that someone not getting enough quality protein in their diet and feeling 'off' because of it - and then begin eating the amount of protein their body needed - would feel so much healthier as early as their first high protein meal. And I did! And I haven't looked back! But I also believe that micronutrients in the way of lots of vegetables - including all the 'colorful' veggies, as well as colorful fruits, Plus quality animal protein in good measure, AND resistence training - is the way to go. Your proclaiming that 'carbs are not essential to humans' - that's pretty over the top, IMO. Sounds like you may be a 'convert'(?) - from heavy carbs to now NO carbs, and that bc now you feel so great on the 'carnovire diet' (I have to assume that's how you are eating now, the carnivore diet?) - that the pendulum has swung way over in the opposite direction for you. If I had to guess, I'd say that yes, your overdoing the carbs & ignoring your protein needs heavily contributed to your past brain brain fog . But your diet was way out of balance then. So, now you've swung way over in the other direction with the belief that all carbs are 'bad' and are unessential for everyone. Dr. Lyon has never implied that carbs are 'unessential'. I follow her regularly and even took one of her online courses to educate myself about following a muscle-centric diet & lifestyle. And I feel great! Recall what she has to say here that not all scientists have integrity, and some are very agenda driven. The carnivore diet is one of those fairly new diet trends, and we don't have any data on long term effects, yet, for the Carnivore diet. Many people, like you, feel great on the Carnivore diet. But how many of them, like you, were unhealthy bc they were neglecting their protein needs and overdoing it on carbs? Anyway, good for you that you got off the carbs and increased your protein and as a result were able to shake the brain fog (I can def relate to how fantastic it feels to shake the brain fog!) I am grateful I wasn't so 'foggy' that I switched Dr. Lyon off when I first came across Her! But as far as swinging so far in the other direction and adopting the belief that all carbs are unessential - for everyone - I just do not agree. I think it's an unnecessary extreme. Did you hear Dr. Lyon say her Navy Seal husband's diet includes around 200g protein & 200g carbs daily? That's an extreme example- as he is constantly training as a Seal - but still...cutting ALL carbs from the diet is not necessary in order to enjoy the benefits of switching to a high protein way of eating. IMO, completely cutting out ALL carbs from one's diet -long term - could eventually reap the wrong kind of effects.
@Dust storm...WHOA!...just a bit defensive about your extreme diet beliefs, are ya? Hmm, thought I might be communicating with someone with a reasoning mind... Well, the doctor I was referencing ( Dr. Lyons mentor) Dr. Donald Layman, PhD - a renowned & well published scientist - leading scientific expert on the subject of protein. HIGHLY credentialed, HIGHLY respected in the scientific community. And YOUR credentials, btw, are? (I'll wait...)
@@barbarafairbanks4578 just because he believes the wrong things ... science... dont blame me. How do you respect ANYONE who says carbs are essential? Damn. What idiocy.
"Beliefs and facts are not the same thing." She points out why humans took 300,000 years to create science. And still we struggle. Thanks for pointing out the motivation of that one doctor. I have found his diet to be much better when I add much red meat along with resistance training.
Fantastic information, as a 75 year old former pro athlete, I continue to believe in the power of discomfort. Today and for the last 10 years I pedal a bike taxi in SanFrancisco on the Embarcadero. Pedaling 6 people up to Union square or china town delivers a level of burning discomfort few people ever experience, this helps me maintain surges of growth hormone, besides the randomness of events thrown at me throughout the day keeps my reflexes and therefore sensory mechanisms sharp resulting in more brain plasticity. On the off days more intra muscular coordination drills working large major muscle groups. Thanks for the info, as I’m now eating more animal proteins than I have in 20 years of a semi vegetarian lifestyle, with definite greater recovery strength gains and energy.
Wow, what an Excellent video. I've seen several interviews with Dr. Lyon and as a 45 year old male who has tried Every diet on the planet, including being vegan for 2 years (😦😦horrendous), and animal protein is where it's at. Also enjoy what she says about earning your carbohydrates on a meal to meal basis
I love this woman! I mean that in a logical and health sense. She's very attractive, but her mind is incredible. Her ability to understand our basic primal health is amazing.
I started training when I was 9 years old in 1976 I am totally on board with Dr. Lyon's directly collating health with muscle 💪 > bottom line start pumping again generation X
I have been hearing this stuff for maybe three or four months. Smatterings of it here and there, dribs and drabs, when I heard that it also affected COGNITION, it had my attention. I spend about 7 hours a week in the gym and am trying to literally increase my muscle mass, and I have done so. I have been increasing my lifts right along. Presumably this is regarding more strength Vs. More mass. I do know that you generally get some strength as a result as mass. Plus I do HIIT style training. I used to weigh over a hundred pounds more than now. I still want to lose about 45 more pounds. I am going to follow this stuff so when I tell people that you need to build muscle so you won’t “Lose your marbles” I know where to point them. Amazing concepts, I am blown away! Insufficient muscle leads to fatty deposits. Also she used a term that I have been using when in the context of age and physical conditioning: “Can I improve?”, I always can, and plan on making it one of my life’s goals.
This is great conversation n interview between both. He asks good questions. Dr Lyon is so knowledgeable in her field of medicine she has all the answers on the tips of her fingers and it all makes so much sense. Just looking at her physique says it all. Fit healthy n glowing.
Dr Lyon gives information like a boss..."survivability is directly related to muscle mass"... just can't enough of her teachings. She's true at heart and selfless. Not many doctors are willing to give these pearls of wisdom... for free!!! She's definitely my #1 health teacher. Kudos to this interviewer...he knows the right questions to ask. Keep it up sir.👍🇬🇾
The problem with the good drs assessment (imho) is that it is extremely difficult to train to build muscle when you body is wracked with inflammation. You have to get your inflammation under control or lowered drastically before effective training can be done. Get rid of seed oils from the diet to do this. High omega 6 fattyacids in the diet wreak havoc and inflammation throughout the body.
@sidfor911truth - 'inflammation' is a double edged sword- and you seem to be WAY over-generalizing, not to mention over-simplifying what it is - where it is- and its effects, imho.
@sidfor911truth - forgot to mention in my previous. comment that, IMHO, of course... - seems to me your solution(s) for ridding the inflammation 'wracked' body of this malady is also way oversimplified.
@@naomiklahn9065 but that is not a total solution. The Hadza tribal people in Africa are thin and fit and eat carbs whenever they find them, in fact, they LOVE honey and eat it hand over fist when they find it. What they don’t have in their traditional diet is seed oils. Plenty of meat (as often as they can get it) carbs but no seed oils.
@@barbarafairbanks4578 have you tried a carnivorish diet? I have for the past 6 months, no seed oils, meat/organ based diet with honey and fruit as desired, taking electrolytes, and inflammation is virtually disappeared from my experience.
Sensational conversation! Dr. Lyon you are fierce👊 Respect✅ Your knowledge and no nonsense message for better health is excellent. Thank you and God bless 🙏 ❤️xx
Okay, you guys have totally got me. I was apprehensive about the Interviewer and the guest but the authenticity and honesty in pursuit of the truth is admirable.
Great advise Dr. Lyon much appreciated. I enjoy watching you on youtube and always pick up some new insights that help me stay strong. I'm 59 and now in better shape than 30 years ago and I was in great shape 30 years ago. Hopefully I can say the same thing in 10 years from now.
@@Chris-kr7gg Okay, maybe you are in better shape, but August 2021 I did "Murph" RX in order as written with a 20 pound vest in 46:22. Last summer I did a Tree-Athlon, yes you read that right, it's a triathlon, but you do it with a 70 pound log. To make it more challenging I did Kalsu as a buy in, in which you start with 5 burpees and then you do Thrusters with 135 pounds on the bar, and on top of the minute you do another 5 burpees until you reach 100 thruster. It was followed by a 1.5K swim towing the log. At he bike transition area I did DT which is 5 RFT of 12 deadlifts, 9 hang power cleans and 6 push jerks, using 135 pound, then o to a 10K mountain bike ride with the 70 pound log strapped to the back pack. At the run transition area, I did a bear complex which consists of 1 power clean , 1 front squat, 1 push press, 1 back squat X 7 for 5 rounds using a 95 pound bar, then of to a 5.5K run on trails with a 70 pound log, and at the finish line there was a buy out of 33 deadlifts at 225 pounds. Hooyah Craig, you can come workout with me any time, I like people that are just a bit better than me, it inspires me to work harder. :)
This is brilliant. Everyone needs to watch this and take notes. Learn, Apply. Im 50, I train for strength snd conditioning. I love carbs, I dont feel full without them. And meat, yes we need to eat meat. "Its all emotional" OMG YES. WOW!! I was using plant based protein because I am dairy intolerant. But I have stopped using it. I eat 2 eggs every day, ocassionally I eat bacon. My bloods and cholesterol are good.
Another powerful substance from Dr Gabrielle lyon about muscle centric medicine. This is the third time I watched her on a different channel and I have learned so much about longevity and lifestyle. Please keep it coming Dr you have changed the perception about eating meat and protein and I was in total confusion before I found you on Impact theory . 👩🎓thanks a lot
Awesome Dr. Lyon, I have always suspected what you have taught here. I am studying nutrition and wellness, and intend to teach Sooo grateful to your knowledge.
This was a terrific interview ! You weren't afraid to ask questions when you didn't understand what Dr. Lyon said. Bravo to you for being secure enough in yourself to be able to do that !
I appreciated what she said about making things harder for yourself as you age. I have a video about that concept on my own channel. I hadn't heard my opinion shared by anyone else before today.
Honesty and integrity…❤️ Very informative and inspiring! This interview should be shared everywhere. Being a life long athlete and interested in splitting hairs regarding training, nutrition, rest and recovery, etc. My goldmine take away from this interview is the amount of protein to consume for my fast breaking meal. I consume enough protein daily, but will now (starting tomorrow) make sure to get that right! Great interview!! I will share now!
I've been on a pre-diabetic squashing routine. OMAD and some exercies but was neglecting resistance training. Loosing weight, feeling better and results in looks and performance is awesome. Now it's time to build quality muscle. I do endurance, rollerblading and biking. But not resistance much. Need to add that in. It does make sense that dimensia is a diabetic brain. Addage that not moving or stop your brain you get into a bad mental state. We all need to move more and exercise the brain too.
We've made food more complicated than it really is, in the US and increasingly more so, in other western countries... Don't eat crap. Eat until you're satisfied, not full/stuffed. Eat a balance of veggies, fruit, protein (eggs/meat/poultry), maybe add some starches like potatoes if you are regularly physically active, or maybe some rice. In a way, your average diet and serving size should be in line with your activity level...
The muscle volume and brain health research goes back to 1980s at least. We used to think in the '80s and 70s that the link could be attributed to oxygenation of the brain but we're finding out that there's a lot more to it than just that.
Actually being a strict vegetariain is by far the best way to go. Statistics show they live longer. My husband and I have been vegetarians for about 35 years, take no medications of any kind ever, and have not been sick for 35 years (no colds, flu , nothing). My husband works full time construction (all trades) and we are both 76 years old. There have been many world class body builders who are vegetarians also. My husband would probably win most body building contests in his weight class.
That is not True about world champion bodybuilders being Vegetarian! There have been a couple because the vast majority are and always will Meat consumers!
Protein focused intuitive eating is helping me. Eat when I'm hungry, stop when I've had enough. Build my meals around animal protein. Strength train, walk daily, yoga, and meditation to lower my stress.
Love the balanced approach of explaining hit splashed in with weight training. Skeletal muscle, strong heart, dynamic movements and power programs for endurance is good. As long as we keep the joints healthy and optimal as we age
This interview just points up how most people are so ignorant of the facts and rely instead on what the media tells them. I like what the fine doctor said about the emotional element in all of this. That statement explains it all. And the idea that man has always relied on plants for food is laughable.
In reference to gaining more and more muscle, for longevity there's a law of diminishing return, so look at bodybuilders most of them die at 40 and those that don't die usually have had heart issues and have had their hearts replaced. Arnold Schwarzenegger has now had three heart surgeries and this new heart he has seems to allow him to become as active as he used to be but he doesn't build muscle he's doing a lot of cardio with some resistance training but not for the purpose of building muscle. Whether you're carrying 300 lb of muscle or fat your heart can't tell the difference. Again, in reference to Blue zones we don't see hugely muscular people, we see good muscle tone, but nothing exaggerated or out of the ordinary. In fact most of these cultures seem to be physically active most of the day which if you ever dealt with an anabolic or highly muscular person, after 35 minutes they're exhausted.
Arnie and other professional body builders take steroids and have extremely unhealthy eating habits, stressing the vascular system & damaging the heart. I don’t think she is suggesting to become a professional body builder!
The reason we can't tell an exact muscle volume to body mass to brain function is because it's much more complex than that so we have extraneous variables that we can't control for at this point. For instance genetics, or disease, or trauma to the central nervous system which includes the brain, etc however in general we know that not necessarily the more muscle but also the less fat on your body results in clear thinking better memory, better decision-making, especially under stress, etc so just as important as having muscle it's also important to reduce the amount of fat but once you go under 8% fat, especially on my age there are other health considerations like fatigue so generally 8 to 10% fat would work for somebody like me but it may not work for somebody like you. Again, the complexity of the issue
I can’t imagine that a 5’5 male bodybuilder weighing in at 235 lbs is healthy. There must be diminishing returns in terms of muscle mass . Finding out that answer to how much muscle is ideal would change the paradigm!
My best guess would be for the bodybuilder to drop the androgens. I'm doubtful that much muscle can be built drug-free. Chronic steroid usage is inflammatory. Inflammation accelerates aging which massively increases the likelihood of disease.
Diet is 85% of what keeps you in shape over exercise. In fact, exercising too much can delay the benefits of IF and keto (or stop it) because you don’t give yourself enough time to recover. Couple times a week of an hour or so of good exercise is all you need with keto and IF to stay in the best shape of your life.
The reason I know this is true is that I didn't work out for about 2 months and now that I'm back I still look muscular and was about 80% as strong as I was in my first work out and about 90% my second. They were about less than a week apart. Before my first "work out" I did a warm up session to ease into it. So technically 3 work outs.
Great interview. I think diets are another kind of religion. I am a hiker so I have lots of leg muscles. I am glad it is a very good thing. Most women my age are losing their muscle mass and they are not doing anything about it. They blame it on their age.
As soon as I read ‘forget everything you know about muscles and protein’, I did….Now I don’t know why I’m here and what’s going on……………please help……am I in danger?…
Live a mostly raw whole food plant based lifestyle, including along with Gynura Procumbens and start a vegetable garden spending 1 hour daily gardening!
I'm with her on a lot of this stuff but right here in the middle at 33 minutes when he questioned her about the ethically-sourced meat thats been raised right grass-fed and all that sort of stuff and not eating animals have been fed basically corn wheat and soy and a lot of hormones that she said "no it doesn't matter the data doesn't support that"...I have to disagree with her and I've never actually looked at the data I'm just going on Common Sense here, I kind think she's really missing the boat on this one and she's just being super data-oriented and not actually thinking about the meat that you're eating is also what that animal ate as well...... even if the data actually doesn't support it for some crazy reason I'm just mentally better off knowing that an animal that was outside all the time eating grass what it was meant to eat and ethically slaughtered as well, not kept in a cage its whole life and fed corn wheat and soy and pumped full of hormones... I'll take a pass on that animal
Are you a farmer? How do you know how animals are raised? I was born and raised on a farm and have many relatives that still actively farm. Bone of them pumps their livestock full of artificial hormones or puts their animals on a soy diet. I think a lot of this information is created special interest groups with an agenda. Although, there is some industrial farming out there too and my family's farming community is not in favor of those kinds of operations.
@@rickpreisinger1887 I do raise chickens. I free range my birds. But I live in MN where it's essential to give my birds feed for several months of the year. Unfortunately feed is soy based. And if you pay attention to food labels soy is in basically EVERYTHING humans are eating or even in shampoos and lotions we are putting on out bodies. Soy is BIG Govn subsidized business with farming. One must as WHY??
@@BrassyBrunette I hear you. Here in my region Ontario Canada a lot of soy and corn is growing. I know they are good cash crops for farmers, but always makes me wonder where it all goes. I consume almost no food with a label on it or something that comes in a box. Reading labels is scary, I always wonder if it is really necessary to put so may chemicals into food. Have an amazing day my friend.
Well stated. You can make the data say exactly what you want it to say, money drives reach. So we talk about passive smoking I would go as far as to say passive eating. The composite of any meat will be based on what you feed the animal when it was alive so when you eat it there is no doubt in my mind you will be ingestion x percent of what the meat is made up of. So why are scientist talking about fish and mercury and plastics from our polluted seas, why are dentist using less or no mercury filling, why are scientist talking about pesticides, herbicides etc. I bet she eats grass fed meats. The cleaner the meat/plant source the better. it is for our bodies.
There is channel called Grey Steel that explains how lifting barbells can make you much healthier after 50 to hundred and they have members of their gymn who can prove this.
Be careful people. Too much of anything is bad. Be in moderation. Shit. My dad ate what she recommended and lifted weights till 49 and had a heart surgery. I say eat more wholesome foods. 1.5-2 g protein for a pound. And get it from clean source. Exercise regularly and do fasting 3x week. She is half correct. From my experience most MDs are dum when it comes to prevention. They know how to prescribe meds though. Fitness instructor probably knows moreb
Tashi:She earned her undergraduate degree in Human Nutrition from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign where she studied vitamin and mineral metabolism, chronic disease prevention and management and the physiological effects of diet composition.
@ W S - I think you meant -body composition there at tge end. Totally agree with you, though - if it weren't for my catching a Dr. Lyon interview on Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory and having the brains to not get all bent out of shape (I was, uh...hate to admit 'vegetarian'), and switching her off - who know WHAT shape I'd be in right now. I am grateful to her for her knowledge, her hard earned credentials and her work on SM to get the message OUT there!...I also appreciate myself for having the good sense to NOT switch her off, and to have the open-mindedness & flexible thinking to admit I was WRONG (staunch, died-in-the-wool vegan, vegaritarin - especially at MY age. ..just WRONG 😖)
@Buddha Dharma - I think your 'warning' here in this podcast comment section is misplaced. I would venture to say your father's heart issues probably began long LONG before following Dr. Lyon's protocol. Also, you are quoting that 1-1.5g per lb of body weight is somehow 'moderate'... with the inference that you are somehow correcting Dr. Lyon's recommendation, with that...??? That's higher than her recommendation - so how is yours 'moderate'? She, herself is recommending 1g per Lb of IDEAL body weight. Or maybe you mistyped, idk, but I think an edit is in order. Just sayin... First you warn us to 'be careful' here, that 'too much of anything' can be harmful (from my POV you seem to be implying that Dr. Lyons's protein recommendation is 'too much/too high') but at the end you say 1g-1.5g per lb is 'moderate' - whereas Dr. Lyon recommends more moderate than THAT - @ 1g per lb ideal body weight. So how is your recommendation more 'moderate' than hers? And using your father as an example of what can go wrong with this protocol (if I read your comments correctly, but that was my take away) - No. Dude! - completely, completely unfair, uncalled for, not to mention unscientific!...to use your father as an example here? - just wrong, IMO. Again, maybe I misinterpreted what you wrote (but I don't think so).
Wow, I thought one minute in and I would be moving on, the only thing I would disagree with is the carbs you mentioned should be at least half of what is mentioned. I'm subscribed
I'm wondering about the metabolic response of older individuals to protein and muscle building - what other factors could be impacting that degradation rather than just age ( a number). It can't be purely a number thing.
Great talk about muscle retention through age and protein, yet it is well known that athletes heal quicker after injury on plant based diets & excessive meat consumption is well known for causing major health issues.
That’s why soccer, rugby , tennis players are turning vegan as they heal quicker from injury and it prolongs their careers. Just look at who keeps winning Wimbledon.
Only eat grass-fed pastured meat. Don't eat the antibiotic laced beef that you get at the regular store. Know your farmer how they treat the animal and how they raise it and what they feed it.
Thank you Dr Lyon that conversation was extremely helpful i understood everything you said from this day forward i will use that so important information for the rest of my life. Thank yo Izreol Ramirez Denver co
Most what she said i believe but my husband at 65 passed away he was in great shape all is life but he was also beat up from that, and he passed away being almost nothing from 220 pounds of muscle 8 months befor and he kept trying to work out twice a week even when he couldn't
60 years old used to do a lot of working out a lot of walking had a very low BMI now I have about a 33 BMI would like to get back down healthwise to a lower BMI
I own a gym where most of outr cluents are power lifters. They are most definitely not under-muscled, but they ARE definitely Over-Fat. They all believe that they need lots of carbs in order to lift heavier and get stronger. My husband and I are strict carnivore eaters. I continue to break my own recirds and my husband is a state record holder in power lifting. His body fat % is 13%. Mine is 20%. And we are in our 60s.
Just a heads up for anyone with headphones. Around 58:45 you'll sh*t your pants if you're not ready. Great video though, thanks for the interview and for posting this.
@@sardalamit I was a second or two late with the warning. Go back a few seconds, put headphones on, turn the volume up really high, and then come back here with the "???"
The carnivore diet, which consists primarily of animal products with little to no plant-based foods, is a highly debated topic among health professionals. While some proponents claim various health benefits, it is important to consider the potential risks and limitations associated with such a restrictive dietary approach. Lack of essential nutrients: By excluding plant-based foods, a carnivore diet can potentially lead to deficiencies in essential nutrients such as fiber, certain vitamins (like vitamin C), minerals (like potassium), and phytochemicals found in fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. These nutrients play crucial roles in maintaining overall health and reducing the risk of chronic diseases. High saturated fat and cholesterol intake: A carnivore diet is typically high in saturated fats and cholesterol, which are primarily found in animal products. A diet high in saturated fat and cholesterol has been associated with an increased risk of heart disease and other cardiovascular issues. Limited fiber intake: Plant-based foods are the primary source of dietary fiber, which is important for maintaining digestive health, regulating blood sugar levels, and supporting heart health. A carnivore diet can lack adequate fiber intake, potentially leading to constipation and other digestive problems. Potential nutrient imbalances: Relying solely on animal products can disrupt the balance of macronutrients in the diet, particularly with regard to carbohydrates. This can potentially affect energy levels and overall metabolic health. Long-term sustainability: The sustainability of a carnivore diet is questionable due to its heavy reliance on animal products. From an environmental perspective, a plant-based or plant-forward diet is generally considered more sustainable and eco-friendly. Individual variations: It's important to acknowledge that individual responses to different dietary approaches can vary. Some individuals may report short-term improvements in certain health markers or conditions while following a carnivore diet. However, long-term effects and potential risks should be carefully considered. Meat does not build muscle that is fictitious. Who hired you Tyson foods?
At 33:00 Lyon mentions that _pea protein_ has an _enormous_ amount of estrogen activity. This is news to me. Did she mean to say _soy_ protein, or is there anyone who can confirm her claim?
That was a disappointing moment in the interview; pea protein has phytoestrogen (less than soy) but the role that phytoestrogen plays in humans is different than estrogen. There's a video on RUclips by Hbomberguy called Soy Boys that covers good research on the topic although his presentation style is a little bit annoying.
@@artiexus Peas appear to contain very low levels of phytoestrogens. Pretty sure peas have been cultivated for eating for a long time, unlike soy which was grown only to refresh the soil but considered poisonous. There is research that list the levels of phytoestrogens: _"Phytoestrogen content of fruits and vegetables commonly consumed in the UK based on LC-MS and 13C-labelled standards"_ As far as I know phytoestrogens are there to fend off insects and animals. Insects can't have too much of it, while mammals are able to handle it better due to more mass/evolution. I have a daily mix of pea and hemp-protein but I can't find anything to suggest I should stop with it. Maybe she really meant soy.
@@oscarl.3563 Wasn't considered poison by the ancient and healthy Asian cultures! Organic soybeans properly fermented and in moderation is not poisonous but considerably nutritious for a plant! It is a bean. I'd go with black soybeans though! No plant can or should ever substitute for meat though! They're never as absorbable as meat especially that from 100% grass-fed ruminates. Eggs are No 1 for protein
She has valid points on meat eating. Waiting to hear about fruits. I know a lot of fruitarians who are muscular. They had to totally detox first though. Still on fruit and they're still muscular. May not work for everyone though. Also valid points on too much estrogen in certain foods. But she is knowledgeable in some areas and pretty ignorant in others.
I researched her point about pea protein been loaded with estrogen, she is wrong, it is super healthy. It is always good to do your research rather than taking these RUclipsrs advice for gospel.
So we learn the body is a very capable machine that is made to work and work hard. If it doesnt, it brakes down and the control unit also declines. TRUTH.
If something doesn't feel good, don't do it. Just waffle around and try all the things and remove all the things. Protein and fats first, then carbs. That helped me a good bit to even out weight and feelings.
She is amazing I am 60yrs old work out every day weight 165 pounds take in 160 grams of protein a day eat grass fed beef my doctor said the beef will cause colon cancer I am extremely healthy He said I should eat plant base nutrients what should I do
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I am 67 years old l go yo the gym three times a week and have done fir the past three years, l love leg days and with my personal trainer can leg press a maximum of 335 kg leg press full reps , l start off at 200 kg three sets of 10 , but due to Covid lockdown l am down to 250 kg but it’s increasing 👍🇬🇧 whatever age you are get to the gym
i call bullsh1t
Leucine & citrulline before leucine after, enough taurine & creatine. What I have learned yesterday.
I forgot. Don't drink more than essential. Deuterium will ravage your mitochondria. If it didn't already.
Trt or anything?
@@Guts_Brando weight training increases T levels. FACT.
Very Interesting interview, I’m 55 years now and went all Keto around 8 months ago and started training 6 days a week and now I can tell myself that I am in the best shape of my life, weight as much as when I was 20 something but have more muscles. Also, my cognitive functions have increased greatly ; I remember things I read much, much better and lighter so I am the living proof that she is right .
Best regards you all
Franz
Me too brother (55) but I only started 3 months ago. Plus I was a glutten, type 2 diabetic. Diabetes is practically gone and though I can't see my 6 pack YET. I can feel them, which I wasn't able to do in the last two decades. I started Keto, not to lose weight but to fix my damaged insulin system. But I have lst ALL facial and neck fat, arm fat and leg fat. Plus I have lost about 20% visceral fat. In 3 MONTHS. What an added bonus.
@@truthorpropaganda9001 , Great to hear that man, keep doing it !!
For me is a mindset, I want that my body works as best as long as possible, period. I'm an introvert so spend maybe 100 hours reading about nutrition, keto, vegan , Lyon etc and decided to go keto cause it works for me ( and love cheese way too much ) I also realised that the amount of protein is crucial not only for my muscle growth but for my health .
A few years ago, you tell me to eat fat and I tell you your are crazy ha ha ha , now I eat bacon and dip my toast ( keto bread ) into the remaining fat .... I still can't believe that fat is the best energy source from all .
It took me around 1 year to clearly show my 6 pack and I am working on my 8 th pack ... some day ha ha
Take care
Best regards
Franz
@@franzjosefmueller-alban509 Yep also a cheese lover. And love nuts also. So a lifestyle that promotes parmesian, macadamia nuts and walnuts was a glorius find. And also like you brother, I found I have to eat at least 30-40 percent protein or I just dont feel right. I eat very few carbs. Practically zero except in the cheese, nuts and unsweetened cocoa. You know everybodys metabolism is different but one meal I find that makes me feel amazing is 3 free range eggs fried in grass fed butter and a can of asparagus with some more grass fed butter melted on it and cooked in the microwave. I actually just dump the eggs over the aspargus and eat it all together in a bowl. For me, this meal is super food as far as energy, and just how good i feel.
Take care as well brother. Imagine how we would look if we would have had this knowledge in our 20's...lol.
@@truthorpropaganda9001 , yeah, each of us has to find what works best , I don’t believe in : one diet works for all type of argument. On work days I eat 3 times a day , weekends 2 with intermittent fasting on Sundays… best part ? I’m not hungry, that I found amazing!!
About the age , totally on point but then again, I look terrific for an 55 year old so…. I just came back from my Sundays run ( 12 k ) and I am trying to beat the 1 hour mark .
Best regards
Franz
When you say Keto.... which version of Keto?
Really good knowledge . Another reason why I will never stop lifting and making protein a priority . Thanks a lot for this episode !
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@@amandaminnie1965 butt text?? I’ve done that before lol
what's your IG? Trying to see your progress
Lots of conflicting info/studies about protein and longevity/mortality.
65 female here. Always worked out with weights until covid. Now back weight lifting running hills
Never been on meds. No need for meds if you take care of yourself.
Great interview with Dr. Lyon. I like the analogy she made that people have become too domesticated and sedentary. Very important fact: it’s the amount of muscle we carry that determines longevity, not how slender.we are.
I can't recall Jeanne Calment or any centenarian looking jacked.
Not according to David Sinclair.
Better health yes. Longevity not necessarily.
The amount of muscle that you have going into old age [helps] determine longevity. As mentioned in the other two comments, sarcopenia is a natural occurrence to some degree, so developing sufficient bone structure and muscle mass as a younger adult is important. Sufficient, optimal, and jacked are not synonyms.
The bottom line is that we were not designed to live sedentary lifestyles. We must keep our diets under control to stay lean with enough protein to maintain muscle as we age.
I love her, she knows her stuff, I totally respect her .
HehHeh, Yes!
She's awesome. Been following her for a little over a year now. Learned tons.
Her RUclips channel is worth checking out as she has segments with Dr layman in nearly every episode.
There were so many gems in this interview that I will be incorporating into my fitness regiment, and add it to the mentality. Loved the address of the truth that our current medical profession is oriented around problems, not prevention. Also the pushing of pharmaceuticals.
I’m going to listen to this again.
Very excited about this! Exercise physiologists have been saying these things for decades. Her killer looks(elephant in the room) are beneficial for bringing it into mainstream, Old men with lab coats unfortunately is not conductive in today's social media environment.
Yes. Funny. The fact that she could have skated through life just using her looks makes us respect her a lot. She is an example for all of us.
She's not that hot, she is full of Botox.
@@Chris-kr7gg agreed. Give her a 4 out of 10
I can honestly say after almost 5 years carnivore my brain is sharper, my memory is better and my rational thinking is not influenced by false fears and feelings.
I saw a slide in my thinking and reasoning skills in my late 40s. I was having issues making life choices and had really fuzzy short term memory issues. Now at 65 and almost 5 years carnivore, I have people coming to me just to get input into their lives. I am being sought out just for advice. This floors me as even 5 years ago I would have considered myself barely smarter than a 5th grader. Carnivore healed my body and my mind.
Carbohydrates were my problem.
No more, I eat none.
Is it for everyone?
I believe so. But 95% of the people I tell about being strict carnivore think om crazy. Yet they refuse to enter into an honest debate, simply because their defense of eating carbohydrates is.... I cant live without them...
But a cold hard fact of life is carbohydrates are NOT essential.
And boys and girls, you cannot escape that FACT.
It’s def not for everybody I think when you blend more of a Weston a price approach we’re you get a mix of things and keep the gut healthy you’ve reached the pinnacle of health
@Dust storm - uh...maybe a bit misinformed, there, about the need for carbs, I think?
Watch Dr. Lyon interview her mentor, Dr.. Donald Layman about carbs. I just watched it. The segment is called, 'The key to carbohydrates."
You will need to be open to the possibility that you may be thinking about some of your new dietary beliefs in the wrong way. S o, I'd recommend you watch that interview with an open mind.
I was a vegetarian for 6 years (animal lover... believing that animal protein is the same as plant protein - not fair to the animals, blah, blah).
And then one day I came upon an interview of Dr. Lyon on Tom Bilyeu's podcast. I felt so insulted (& defensive!) that she was promoting eating animal protein, and lots of it!
But then I realized...'Hey she's talking about me! (skinny fat) a term my own (Navy Seal) son had ascribed to me, and I think that the host in that interview, or maybe someone in the comments section probably used that term also 'skinny fat', I really sat up and took notice! So, instead of switching off the interview, I realized (because she is heavily credentialed and made so much sense, to me,, that... if I didn't change my diet, and immediately I was headed for a future of sarcopenia -at best - and, at worst, a whole host of medical problems.
I felt like you, also. I was getting sick alot and often had brain fog. I've always heavily exercised, but my regimin had gradually fallen off. I just did not have the energy to keep that going consistently.
Dr. Lyon mentioned in that interview that someone like me (I'm paraphrasing here) - but that someone not getting enough quality protein in their diet and feeling 'off' because of it - and then begin eating the amount of protein their body needed - would feel so much healthier as early as their first high protein meal. And I did! And I haven't looked back!
But I also believe that micronutrients in the way of lots of vegetables - including all the 'colorful' veggies, as well as colorful fruits, Plus quality animal protein in good measure, AND resistence training - is the way to go.
Your proclaiming that 'carbs are not essential to humans' - that's pretty over the top, IMO.
Sounds like you may be a 'convert'(?) - from heavy carbs to now NO carbs, and that bc now you feel so great on the 'carnovire diet' (I have to assume that's how you are eating now, the carnivore diet?) - that the pendulum has swung way over in the opposite direction for you.
If I had to guess, I'd say that yes, your overdoing the carbs & ignoring your protein needs heavily contributed to your past brain brain fog .
But your diet was way out of balance then. So, now you've swung way over in the other direction with the belief that all carbs are 'bad' and are unessential for everyone.
Dr. Lyon has never implied that carbs are 'unessential'. I follow her regularly and even took one of her online courses to educate myself about following a muscle-centric diet & lifestyle. And I feel great!
Recall what she has to say here that not all scientists have integrity, and some are very agenda driven. The carnivore diet is one of those fairly new diet trends, and we don't have any data on long term effects, yet, for the Carnivore diet.
Many people, like you, feel great on the Carnivore diet. But how many of them, like you, were unhealthy bc they were neglecting their protein needs and overdoing it on carbs?
Anyway, good for you that you got off the carbs and increased your protein and as a result were able to shake the brain fog (I can def relate to how fantastic it feels to shake the brain fog!) I am grateful I wasn't so 'foggy' that I switched Dr. Lyon off when I first came across Her!
But as far as swinging so far in the other direction and adopting the belief that all carbs are unessential - for everyone - I just do not agree. I think it's an unnecessary extreme.
Did you hear Dr. Lyon say her Navy Seal husband's diet includes around 200g protein & 200g carbs daily? That's an extreme example- as he is constantly training as a Seal - but still...cutting ALL carbs from the diet is not necessary in order to enjoy the benefits of switching to a high protein way of eating.
IMO, completely cutting out ALL carbs from one's diet -long term - could eventually reap the wrong kind of effects.
@@barbarafairbanks4578 Any doctor who claims carbohydrates ate essential is too stupid to breathe.
Why would anyone listen to a word they say?
@Dust storm...WHOA!...just a bit defensive about your extreme diet beliefs, are ya? Hmm, thought I might be communicating with someone with a reasoning mind...
Well, the doctor I was referencing ( Dr. Lyons mentor) Dr. Donald Layman, PhD - a renowned & well published scientist - leading scientific expert on the subject of protein. HIGHLY credentialed, HIGHLY respected in the scientific community.
And YOUR credentials, btw, are? (I'll wait...)
@@barbarafairbanks4578 just because he believes the wrong things ... science... dont blame me.
How do you respect ANYONE who says carbs are essential?
Damn.
What idiocy.
"Beliefs and facts are not the same thing." She points out why humans took 300,000 years to create science. And still we struggle.
Thanks for pointing out the motivation of that one doctor. I have found his diet to be much better when I add much red meat along with resistance training.
Fantastic information, as a 75 year old former pro athlete, I continue to believe in the power of discomfort.
Today and for the last 10 years I pedal a bike taxi in SanFrancisco on the Embarcadero.
Pedaling 6 people up to Union square or china town delivers a level of burning discomfort few people ever experience, this helps me maintain surges of growth hormone, besides the randomness of events thrown at me throughout the day keeps my reflexes and therefore sensory mechanisms sharp resulting in more brain plasticity.
On the off days more intra muscular coordination drills working large major muscle groups.
Thanks for the info, as I’m now eating more animal proteins than I have in 20 years of a semi vegetarian lifestyle, with definite greater recovery strength gains and energy.
Wow, what an Excellent video. I've seen several interviews with Dr. Lyon and as a 45 year old male who has tried Every diet on the planet, including being vegan for 2 years (😦😦horrendous), and animal protein is where it's at. Also enjoy what she says about earning your carbohydrates on a meal to meal basis
I love this woman! I mean that in a logical and health sense. She's very attractive, but her mind is incredible. Her ability to understand our basic primal health is amazing.
she is full of shit...muscle mass has nothing to do with fighting illnesses...stop thinking with your dick
I started training when I was 9 years old in 1976 I am totally on board with Dr. Lyon's directly collating health with muscle 💪 > bottom line start pumping again generation X
I have been hearing this stuff for maybe three or four months. Smatterings of it here and there, dribs and drabs, when I heard that it also affected COGNITION, it had my attention. I spend about 7 hours a week in the gym and am trying to literally increase my muscle mass, and I have done so. I have been increasing my lifts right along. Presumably this is regarding more strength Vs. More mass. I do know that you generally get some strength as a result as mass. Plus I do HIIT style training. I used to weigh over a hundred pounds more than now. I still want to lose about 45 more pounds. I am going to follow this stuff so when I tell people that you need to build muscle so you won’t “Lose your marbles” I know where to point them. Amazing concepts, I am blown away! Insufficient muscle leads to fatty deposits. Also she used a term that I have been using when in the context of age and physical conditioning: “Can I improve?”, I always can, and plan on making it one of my life’s goals.
You should stop HIIT, it’s bad for the heart. Moderation is the key word.
@@tshaolin971 any studies to support that claim?
@@GrishaKrivchenia Listen to the pros ruclips.net/video/xQnPpkd4NY4/видео.html
@@GrishaKrivchenia you are right. Most studies point to it as one of the best things to do.
Dr. Lyons.... this is a life changing discussion. Thank you!
Awesome interview I found it so interesting really really loved it thanks my man
This is great conversation n interview between both. He asks good questions. Dr Lyon is so knowledgeable in her field of medicine she has all the answers on the tips of her fingers and it all makes so much sense. Just looking at her physique says it all. Fit healthy n glowing.
Dr Lyon gives information like a boss..."survivability is directly related to muscle mass"... just can't enough of her teachings. She's true at heart and selfless. Not many doctors are willing to give these pearls of wisdom... for free!!! She's definitely my #1 health teacher. Kudos to this interviewer...he knows the right questions to ask. Keep it up sir.👍🇬🇾
there are many, see all the papers freely available and there are so many on youtube as well.
Excellent interview full of interesting information! Thank you
As a geriatrics person, i wish u had addressed mTOR as a risk and contributor to ageing (David Sinclair, et al.) versus mTOR for muscle growth.
David Sinclair talks about it doesn't he?
The problem with the good drs assessment (imho) is that it is extremely difficult to train to build muscle when you body is wracked with inflammation. You have to get your inflammation under control or lowered drastically before effective training can be done. Get rid of seed oils from the diet to do this. High omega 6 fattyacids in the diet wreak havoc and inflammation throughout the body.
True, but she *does* advocate v.low-carb / zero-carb diet for that.
@sidfor911truth - 'inflammation' is a double edged sword- and you seem to be WAY over-generalizing, not to mention over-simplifying what it is - where it is- and its effects, imho.
@sidfor911truth - forgot to mention in my previous. comment that, IMHO, of course... - seems to me your solution(s) for ridding the inflammation 'wracked' body of this malady is also way oversimplified.
@@naomiklahn9065 but that is not a total solution. The Hadza tribal people in Africa are thin and fit and eat carbs whenever they find them, in fact, they LOVE honey and eat it hand over fist when they find it. What they don’t have in their traditional diet is seed oils. Plenty of meat (as often as they can get it) carbs but no seed oils.
@@barbarafairbanks4578 have you tried a carnivorish diet? I have for the past 6 months, no seed oils, meat/organ based diet with honey and fruit as desired, taking electrolytes, and inflammation is virtually disappeared from my experience.
Love this doctor. She demonstrates a wonderful mindset and a sharp mind.
Sensational conversation! Dr. Lyon you are fierce👊 Respect✅ Your knowledge and no nonsense message for better health is excellent. Thank you and God bless 🙏 ❤️xx
How is she fierce? Did she bite anyone? 😉🤣
Okay, you guys have totally got me. I was apprehensive about the Interviewer and the guest but the authenticity and honesty in pursuit of the truth is admirable.
Great advise Dr. Lyon much appreciated. I enjoy watching you on youtube and always pick up some new insights that help me stay strong. I'm 59 and now in better shape than 30 years ago and I was in great shape 30 years ago. Hopefully I can say the same thing in 10 years from now.
Gives me hope, love this comment. 36 but starting to see growth as I've changed my diet and really started pushing the weights in the gym again.
No way are you in better shape than at 29
@@Chris-kr7gg Okay, maybe you are in better shape, but August 2021 I did "Murph" RX in order as written with a 20 pound vest in 46:22. Last summer I did a Tree-Athlon, yes you read that right, it's a triathlon, but you do it with a 70 pound log. To make it more challenging I did Kalsu as a buy in, in which you start with 5 burpees and then you do Thrusters with 135 pounds on the bar, and on top of the minute you do another 5 burpees until you reach 100 thruster. It was followed by a 1.5K swim towing the log. At he bike transition area I did DT which is 5 RFT of 12 deadlifts, 9 hang power cleans and 6 push jerks, using 135 pound, then o to a 10K mountain bike ride with the 70 pound log strapped to the back pack. At the run transition area, I did a bear complex which consists of 1 power clean , 1 front squat, 1 push press, 1 back squat X 7 for 5 rounds using a 95 pound bar, then of to a 5.5K run on trails with a 70 pound log, and at the finish line there was a buy out of 33 deadlifts at 225 pounds. Hooyah Craig, you can come workout with me any time, I like people that are just a bit better than me, it inspires me to work harder. :)
@@rickpreisinger1887 you misinterpret what I wrote, I wrote you can't be fitter now then you were at 29.
@@rickpreisinger1887 also what's your staple for foods doing all that training
This is brilliant. Everyone needs to watch this and take notes. Learn, Apply. Im 50, I train for strength snd conditioning. I love carbs, I dont feel full without them. And meat, yes we need to eat meat. "Its all emotional" OMG YES. WOW!! I was using plant based protein because I am dairy intolerant. But I have stopped using it. I eat 2 eggs every day, ocassionally I eat bacon. My bloods and cholesterol are good.
Another powerful substance from Dr Gabrielle lyon about muscle centric medicine. This is the third time I watched her on a different channel and I have learned so much about longevity and lifestyle. Please keep it coming Dr you have changed the perception about eating meat and protein and I was in total confusion before I found you on Impact theory . 👩🎓thanks a lot
Yes, we need to stop short changing ourselves and keep working out!!!!! No excuse’s!!
Awesome Dr. Lyon, I have always suspected what you have taught here. I am studying nutrition and wellness, and intend to teach
Sooo grateful to your knowledge.
This was a terrific interview ! You weren't afraid to ask questions when you didn't understand what Dr. Lyon said. Bravo to you for being secure enough in yourself to be able to do that !
I love this woman’s perception on health . Smart and beautiful too💕
Great interview. Great questions and great answers. Very informative. Thanks for posting. I learned a lot.
I would love to post this podcast on every vegan, vegetarian and fruitarian forum so they can open their eyes before it’s too late!!
They don't care. It's a death cult.
I appreciated what she said about making things harder for yourself as you age. I have a video about that concept on my own channel. I hadn't heard my opinion shared by anyone else before today.
Dr. Gabrielle is amazing! She truly knows! Thank you ! ❤❤❤
Honesty and integrity…❤️ Very informative and inspiring! This interview should be shared everywhere. Being a life long athlete and interested in splitting hairs regarding training, nutrition, rest and recovery, etc. My goldmine take away from this interview is the amount of protein to consume for my fast breaking meal. I consume enough protein daily, but will now (starting tomorrow) make sure to get that right! Great interview!! I will share now!
I've been on a pre-diabetic squashing routine. OMAD and some exercies but was neglecting resistance training. Loosing weight, feeling better and results in looks and performance is awesome. Now it's time to build quality muscle. I do endurance, rollerblading and biking. But not resistance much. Need to add that in. It does make sense that dimensia is a diabetic brain. Addage that not moving or stop your brain you get into a bad mental state. We all need to move more and exercise the brain too.
Most gorgeous doctor ever
Thanks for sharing, very helpful as a former carbo-holic. I dabble in the carbs but much less. Now I know why it matters and how it matters.
We've made food more complicated than it really is, in the US and increasingly more so, in other western countries... Don't eat crap. Eat until you're satisfied, not full/stuffed. Eat a balance of veggies, fruit, protein (eggs/meat/poultry), maybe add some starches like potatoes if you are regularly physically active, or maybe some rice. In a way, your average diet and serving size should be in line with your activity level...
she is so right on, I've worked in geriatric population for 29 years!
The muscle volume and brain health research goes back to 1980s at least. We used to think in the '80s and 70s that the link could be attributed to oxygenation of the brain but we're finding out that there's a lot more to it than just that.
Telling it how it is: Just Wow Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, so enlightening thank you. xx
Actually being a strict vegetariain is by far the best way to go. Statistics show they live longer. My husband and I have been vegetarians for about 35 years, take no medications of any kind ever, and have not been sick for 35 years (no colds, flu , nothing). My husband works full time construction (all trades) and we are both 76 years old. There have been many world class body builders who are vegetarians also. My husband would probably win most body building contests in his weight class.
she was vegetarian for a long time,,,,,till she learned different,,,and cried when she ate her first chicken
That's just because you cut out sugar, mostly. It's about what you re.ived from your diet, not necessarily what you added in your diet..
That is not True about world champion bodybuilders being Vegetarian! There have been a couple because the vast majority are and always will Meat consumers!
Finally someone is talking about prevention versus treating a condition afterwards.
Amen brother!!
Reservoir of valuable information . Very uplifting.
Protein focused intuitive eating is helping me. Eat when I'm hungry, stop when I've had enough. Build my meals around animal protein. Strength train, walk daily, yoga, and meditation to lower my stress.
Love the balanced approach of explaining hit splashed in with weight training. Skeletal muscle, strong heart, dynamic movements and power programs for endurance is good. As long as we keep the joints healthy and optimal as we age
I love Dr Gabriel Lyons with the knowledge she gives out, I would love to go to her to get help as I have started Keto
Lovely knowledge and wisdom Dr. Lion has👍🔥she brings heat to the table packed of facts. Health is wealth
This interview just points up how most people are so ignorant of the facts and rely instead on what the media tells them. I like what the fine doctor said about the emotional element in all of this. That statement explains it all. And the idea that man has always relied on plants for food is laughable.
In reference to gaining more and more muscle, for longevity there's a law of diminishing return, so look at bodybuilders most of them die at 40 and those that don't die usually have had heart issues and have had their hearts replaced. Arnold Schwarzenegger has now had three heart surgeries and this new heart he has seems to allow him to become as active as he used to be but he doesn't build muscle he's doing a lot of cardio with some resistance training but not for the purpose of building muscle. Whether you're carrying 300 lb of muscle or fat your heart can't tell the difference. Again, in reference to Blue zones we don't see hugely muscular people, we see good muscle tone, but nothing exaggerated or out of the ordinary. In fact most of these cultures seem to be physically active most of the day which if you ever dealt with an anabolic or highly muscular person, after 35 minutes they're exhausted.
Arnie and other professional body builders take steroids and have extremely unhealthy eating habits, stressing the vascular system & damaging the heart. I don’t think she is suggesting to become a professional body builder!
@@richardcook2970 thanks. Cool. Glad she wasn't suggesting to become body builders or exercise to an extreme
Right on!
The reason we can't tell an exact muscle volume to body mass to brain function is because it's much more complex than that so we have extraneous variables that we can't control for at this point. For instance genetics, or disease, or trauma to the central nervous system which includes the brain, etc however in general we know that not necessarily the more muscle but also the less fat on your body results in clear thinking better memory, better decision-making, especially under stress, etc so just as important as having muscle it's also important to reduce the amount of fat but once you go under 8% fat, especially on my age there are other health considerations like fatigue so generally 8 to 10% fat would work for somebody like me but it may not work for somebody like you. Again, the complexity of the issue
I can’t imagine that a 5’5 male bodybuilder weighing in at 235 lbs is healthy. There must be diminishing returns in terms of muscle mass . Finding out that answer to how much muscle is ideal would change the paradigm!
My best guess would be for the bodybuilder to drop the androgens. I'm doubtful that much muscle can be built drug-free. Chronic steroid usage is inflammatory. Inflammation accelerates aging which massively increases the likelihood of disease.
Thank you
Diet is 85% of what keeps you in shape over exercise. In fact, exercising too much can delay the benefits of IF and keto (or stop it) because you don’t give yourself enough time to recover. Couple times a week of an hour or so of good exercise is all you need with keto and IF to stay in the best shape of your life.
The reason I know this is true is that I didn't work out for about 2 months and now that I'm back I still look muscular and was about 80% as strong as I was in my first work out and about 90% my second. They were about less than a week apart. Before my first "work out" I did a warm up session to ease into it. So technically 3 work outs.
34:20 "Not all scientists are trustworthy." That is true about any profession, but perhaps more difficult to discern in highly specialized situations.
Great interview. I think diets are another kind of religion. I am a hiker so I have lots of leg muscles. I am glad it is a very good thing. Most women my age are losing their muscle mass and they are not doing anything about it. They blame it on their age.
My optimal muscle mass is when I feel, look and perform with vigor daily.
Amazing interview ! Thanks to you both.
This Dr is amazing listen people everything she's saying you should be doing living your life this way....
As soon as I read ‘forget everything you know about muscles and protein’, I did….Now I don’t know why I’m here and what’s going on……………please help……am I in danger?…
Live a mostly raw whole food plant based lifestyle, including along with Gynura Procumbens and start a vegetable garden spending 1 hour daily gardening!
If Dad is 75 then Doctor Lyon is probably fiftyish. You're looking good Doc! I guess I should pay attention more.
Can there be a show on a step by step way to build muscle for absolute beginners please ?
Where do we start ? As far as exercise
Totally focused on certain chest muscles
What a valuable information! Thank you! 🤗
I'm with her on a lot of this stuff but right here in the middle at 33 minutes when he questioned her about the ethically-sourced meat thats been raised right grass-fed and all that sort of stuff and not eating animals have been fed basically corn wheat and soy and a lot of hormones that she said "no it doesn't matter the data doesn't support that"...I have to disagree with her and I've never actually looked at the data I'm just going on Common Sense here, I kind think she's really missing the boat on this one and she's just being super data-oriented and not actually thinking about the meat that you're eating is also what that animal ate as well...... even if the data actually doesn't support it for some crazy reason I'm just mentally better off knowing that an animal that was outside all the time eating grass what it was meant to eat and ethically slaughtered as well, not kept in a cage its whole life and fed corn wheat and soy and pumped full of hormones... I'll take a pass on that animal
Are you a farmer? How do you know how animals are raised? I was born and raised on a farm and have many relatives that still actively farm. Bone of them pumps their livestock full of artificial hormones or puts their animals on a soy diet. I think a lot of this information is created special interest groups with an agenda. Although, there is some industrial farming out there too and my family's farming community is not in favor of those kinds of operations.
How you feel doesn’t affect science, lol
@@rickpreisinger1887 I do raise chickens. I free range my birds. But I live in MN where it's essential to give my birds feed for several months of the year. Unfortunately feed is soy based. And if you pay attention to food labels soy is in basically EVERYTHING humans are eating or even in shampoos and lotions we are putting on out bodies. Soy is BIG Govn subsidized business with farming. One must as WHY??
@@BrassyBrunette I hear you. Here in my region Ontario Canada a lot of soy and corn is growing. I know they are good cash crops for farmers, but always makes me wonder where it all goes. I consume almost no food with a label on it or something that comes in a box. Reading labels is scary, I always wonder if it is really necessary to put so may chemicals into food. Have an amazing day my friend.
Well stated. You can make the data say exactly what you want it to say, money drives reach. So we talk about passive smoking I would go as far as to say passive eating. The composite of any meat will be based on what you feed the animal when it was alive so when you eat it there is no doubt in my mind you will be ingestion x percent of what the meat is made up of. So why are scientist talking about fish and mercury and plastics from our polluted seas, why are dentist using less or no mercury filling, why are scientist talking about pesticides, herbicides etc. I bet she eats grass fed meats. The cleaner the meat/plant source the better. it is for our bodies.
There is channel called Grey Steel that explains how lifting barbells can make you much healthier after 50 to hundred and they have members of their gymn who can prove this.
Be careful people. Too much of anything is bad. Be in moderation. Shit. My dad ate what she recommended and lifted weights till 49 and had a heart surgery. I say eat more wholesome foods. 1.5-2 g protein for a pound. And get it from clean source. Exercise regularly and do fasting 3x week. She is half correct. From my experience most MDs are dum when it comes to prevention. They know how to prescribe meds though. Fitness instructor probably knows moreb
Are dum? You misspelled dumb.
Tashi:She earned her undergraduate degree in Human Nutrition from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign where she studied vitamin and mineral metabolism, chronic disease prevention and management and the physiological effects of diet composition.
@ W S - I think you meant -body composition there at tge end. Totally agree with you, though - if it weren't for my catching a Dr. Lyon interview on Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory and having the brains to not get all bent out of shape (I was, uh...hate to admit 'vegetarian'), and switching her off - who know WHAT shape I'd be in right now. I am grateful to her for her knowledge, her hard earned credentials and her work on SM to get the message OUT there!...I also appreciate myself for having the good sense to NOT switch her off, and to have the open-mindedness & flexible thinking to admit I was WRONG (staunch, died-in-the-wool vegan, vegaritarin - especially at MY age. ..just WRONG 😖)
@Buddha Dharma - I think your 'warning' here in this podcast comment section is misplaced.
I would venture to say your father's heart issues probably began long LONG before following Dr. Lyon's protocol.
Also, you are quoting that 1-1.5g per lb of body weight is somehow 'moderate'... with the inference that you are somehow correcting Dr. Lyon's recommendation, with that...???
That's higher than her recommendation - so how is yours 'moderate'?
She, herself is recommending 1g per Lb of IDEAL body weight. Or maybe you mistyped, idk, but I think an edit is in order. Just sayin...
First you warn us to 'be careful' here, that 'too much of anything' can be harmful (from my POV you seem to be implying that Dr. Lyons's protein recommendation is 'too much/too high') but at the end you say 1g-1.5g per lb is 'moderate' - whereas Dr. Lyon recommends more moderate than THAT - @ 1g per lb ideal body weight. So how is your recommendation more 'moderate' than hers?
And using your father as an example of what can go wrong with this protocol (if I read your comments correctly, but that was my take away) -
No. Dude! - completely, completely unfair, uncalled for, not to mention unscientific!...to use your father as an example here? - just wrong, IMO.
Again, maybe I misinterpreted what you wrote (but I don't think so).
Hello how are you Buddha Dharma? Good views.
Very very educational, thanks I never thought I'd be getting into this but fascinating and surprisingly close to my interests.
Wow, I thought one minute in and I would be moving on, the only thing I would disagree with is the carbs you mentioned should be at least half of what is mentioned. I'm subscribed
I'm wondering about the metabolic response of older individuals to protein and muscle building - what other factors could be impacting that degradation rather than just age ( a number). It can't be purely a number thing.
There are many experts in this field that suggest reducing protein intake as you approach you late fifties.
THANK YOU BOTH
34:41 3grams per lb bodyweight. That would be 450 grams of protein for a 150 pound person.
I think she meant 0.3 grams.
Great talk about muscle retention through age and protein, yet it is well known that athletes heal quicker after injury on plant based diets & excessive meat consumption is well known for causing major health issues.
Completely wrong
That’s why soccer, rugby , tennis players are turning vegan as they heal quicker from injury and it prolongs their careers. Just look at who keeps winning Wimbledon.
Only eat grass-fed pastured meat. Don't eat the antibiotic laced beef that you get at the regular store. Know your farmer how they treat the animal and how they raise it and what they feed it.
I agree,that's what I do.
I love this lady she's so knowledgeable.
Thank you Dr Lyon that conversation was extremely helpful i understood everything you said from this day forward i will use that so important information for the rest of my life. Thank yo Izreol Ramirez Denver co
Most what she said i believe but my husband at 65 passed away he was in great shape all is life but he was also beat up from that, and he passed away being almost nothing from 220 pounds of muscle 8 months befor and he kept trying to work out twice a week even when he couldn't
60 years old used to do a lot of working out a lot of walking had a very low BMI now I have about a 33 BMI would like to get back down healthwise to a lower BMI
Does body composition come right even with low thyroid hormones. Weight training 5 days a week. Started 6 weeks ago. Love it
I own a gym where most of outr cluents are power lifters. They are most definitely not under-muscled, but they ARE definitely Over-Fat. They all believe that they need lots of carbs in order to lift heavier and get stronger. My husband and I are strict carnivore eaters. I continue to break my own recirds and my husband is a state record holder in power lifting. His body fat % is 13%. Mine is 20%. And we are in our 60s.
Very valuable information guys thanks 🙏
Just a heads up for anyone with headphones. Around 58:45 you'll sh*t your pants if you're not ready.
Great video though, thanks for the interview and for posting this.
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@@sardalamit I was a second or two late with the warning. Go back a few seconds, put headphones on, turn the volume up really high, and then come back here with the "???"
58:38 actually
She lost me at 8:20 when she says “my husband…”. Just kidding, she’s terrific.
The carnivore diet, which consists primarily of animal products with little to no plant-based foods, is a highly debated topic among health professionals. While some proponents claim various health benefits, it is important to consider the potential risks and limitations associated with such a restrictive dietary approach.
Lack of essential nutrients: By excluding plant-based foods, a carnivore diet can potentially lead to deficiencies in essential nutrients such as fiber, certain vitamins (like vitamin C), minerals (like potassium), and phytochemicals found in fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. These nutrients play crucial roles in maintaining overall health and reducing the risk of chronic diseases.
High saturated fat and cholesterol intake: A carnivore diet is typically high in saturated fats and cholesterol, which are primarily found in animal products. A diet high in saturated fat and cholesterol has been associated with an increased risk of heart disease and other cardiovascular issues.
Limited fiber intake: Plant-based foods are the primary source of dietary fiber, which is important for maintaining digestive health, regulating blood sugar levels, and supporting heart health. A carnivore diet can lack adequate fiber intake, potentially leading to constipation and other digestive problems.
Potential nutrient imbalances: Relying solely on animal products can disrupt the balance of macronutrients in the diet, particularly with regard to carbohydrates. This can potentially affect energy levels and overall metabolic health.
Long-term sustainability: The sustainability of a carnivore diet is questionable due to its heavy reliance on animal products. From an environmental perspective, a plant-based or plant-forward diet is generally considered more sustainable and eco-friendly.
Individual variations: It's important to acknowledge that individual responses to different dietary approaches can vary. Some individuals may report short-term improvements in certain health markers or conditions while following a carnivore diet. However, long-term effects and potential risks should be carefully considered.
Meat does not build muscle that is fictitious. Who hired you Tyson foods?
At 33:00 Lyon mentions that _pea protein_ has an _enormous_ amount of estrogen activity. This is news to me. Did she mean to say _soy_ protein, or is there anyone who can confirm her claim?
That was a disappointing moment in the interview; pea protein has phytoestrogen (less than soy) but the role that phytoestrogen plays in humans is different than estrogen. There's a video on RUclips by Hbomberguy called Soy Boys that covers good research on the topic although his presentation style is a little bit annoying.
@@artiexus Peas appear to contain very low levels of phytoestrogens. Pretty sure peas have been cultivated for eating for a long time, unlike soy which was grown only to refresh the soil but considered poisonous.
There is research that list the levels of phytoestrogens: _"Phytoestrogen content of fruits and vegetables commonly consumed in the UK based on LC-MS and 13C-labelled standards"_
As far as I know phytoestrogens are there to fend off insects and animals. Insects can't have too much of it, while mammals are able to handle it better due to more mass/evolution.
I have a daily mix of pea and hemp-protein but I can't find anything to suggest I should stop with it. Maybe she really meant soy.
@@oscarl.3563 Wasn't considered poison by the ancient and healthy Asian cultures! Organic soybeans properly fermented and in moderation is not poisonous but considerably nutritious for a plant! It is a bean. I'd go with black soybeans though! No plant can or should ever substitute for meat though! They're never as absorbable as meat especially that from 100% grass-fed ruminates. Eggs are No 1 for protein
Great podcast, great information, really learnt a lot, this was excellent, thankyou !!!
The only training is heavy and intense at 80% capacity controlling the movement no more 4 to 5 exercises no more 12 sets split in 4 to 5 days
Thanks so much for sharing
She has valid points on meat eating. Waiting to hear about fruits. I know a lot of fruitarians who are muscular. They had to totally detox first though. Still on fruit and they're still muscular. May not work for everyone though. Also valid points on too much estrogen in certain foods. But she is knowledgeable in some areas and pretty ignorant in others.
There are zero valid points unless it is for survival
I researched her point about pea protein been loaded with estrogen, she is wrong, it is super healthy. It is always good to do your research rather than taking these RUclipsrs advice for gospel.
@@richardcook2970 excellent
So we learn the body is a very capable machine that is made to work and work hard. If it doesnt, it brakes down and the control unit also declines. TRUTH.
If something doesn't feel good, don't do it. Just waffle around and try all the things and remove all the things. Protein and fats first, then carbs. That helped me a good bit to even out weight and feelings.
Dr Paul Saladino stated the same thing. The number one approach is Medication management for everything's but using nutrition to cure.
I did enjoy this new interesting point of view. I think it is right point of view.
She is amazing I am 60yrs old work out every day weight 165 pounds take in 160 grams of protein a day eat grass fed beef my doctor said the beef will cause colon cancer I am extremely healthy He said I should eat plant base nutrients what should I do
Don’t listen to him.
Find a new doctor.
I’m with these fellers