Wow! Thanks for the tips man! This will help me a lot!!!!!!! And for suggestions, how about you make a how to beat chaos breaker with its new support, and a profile/combo videos of Harri? I would love to see that :)
I think you should cover Chaos next. Also another useful way to stop Overwhelm is to keep a standing rear guard behind the VG. That should limit Overwhelm's Dark Device as long as they don't have a Rosenberg or Bolg Wasp.
Does dominate have any problem with this? Because our only big problem is the counter blast thing but we have Torasada and Tengai for that. If any thing else goes wrong, is Dominate a good counter because we don't care that much about our RGs? Also love your videos keep it up!
So with overwhelm is assume it's better to let them have the crit and drive than letting them plus 2 or more, assuming that you can defend against overwhelm
Seeing this comes out makes me think..hmmm...maybe it’s time for an update on how to beat ztb and Laurd...or so would love see that would really help out new player when there locals are feel with meta deck.almost forgot great job with the editing
another tip is that you can keep a unit behind the V to stop overwhelm's dark device ability. they could rest it with the starter but if there is no more starter, they have to force rest it with alicides or bolg wasp which they dont play much of.
Eugene Ho not really tho most play those units at 3 to 4 copys for that very reason of ur opponent trying to stop ur dark device but good strat whem u find them without those cards u are correct there
A question about Gredora’s second ability. Don’t they just fulfill it as much as possible anyway? What I mean is that, even if you flip over your own card, won’t they still countercharge?
@Solemn Vanguard could you please do "how to beat Deletor Rush". Also, you should do some more gameplay on your channel I really enjoyed your video with Blasters and ZTB.
Another trick you forgot to mention about Overwhelms GB3, Its Dark Device on the vanguard, SO if you stand your starter or the unit behind your vanguard via effect or stand trigger or leave it standing she cant use her GB3 and all her units loose than 2k Boost cust Dark Device requires ALL units in the same columb as yours to be REST, key word "ALL" it was a fun little trick I learned while using stand triggers.
That's why Gredora decks play Bolg Wasp, but yes this is a good idea. You don't even need to rely on stand triggers, just throw a unit behind your VG and let it sit there all game.
Hey solemn, as a Nubatama player, I have been struggling against Aqua force players and their g guards.... You see, each time I 'Mukuro' or Mujinlord, The resist-giving g guard appears... Which then makes the rear guards practically untouchable. Please send help.
Do a how to beat Thavas deck please. I've practiced enough against Overlord and CBD that my ZTB deck can somewhat handle it but Thavas is an issue for me sometimes. Cant Hetero those busted columns :'(
hey solemn vanguard i am wondering how to beat an ichikishima deck he's running in a tsukuyomi deck one advantage miko nanase her skill to add power 1000 for ever hand is quite devastating and combine it with nazuna for that turn get power 2000 for every hand its null or die and my friend can get ichikishima on first stride that g guard bavarois can add up hand he stride with haruzuki get a hand the hand size its frightening combine it with nanase and nazuna combo it is goodbye, then if my nullifies has gone or not in hand he will stride with gb8 amaterasu and well good game, he uses this strategy every game drop nulls in ichiki turn and a game with gb8 i am currently has nubatama deck and overlord but without the purge(i will buy it in chinese new year for budget) and i am using ziegenburg as a finisher please reply, thank you
theo doric as a tsukuyomi player, if you can, rush the hell out of the early game. As much replenishment as ott has, the nastiest skills still require oracle, so guarding is not always affordable, and it keeps them from hitting the prepared stack. It also goes without saying, snipe nanase when you can, no problem for kagero. In fact, hitting rear guards in general forces use of resources that could otherwise be used for oracle abilities.
theo doric also, simply forcing them to make the first stride can make a huge difference. Tsukuyomi only works if they have the cost for aoul, and other likely first strides like ame no segume or maybe dragon destroyer deity are only good on hit.
A really fun combo to play against obtiranus is on thier turn rain breath call sylvia which then called from top deck onto field. Also u can rain breath into alain to counter charge 2 to deny 4k damage. Edit: musketeer deck
All of this seems like good advice. There are also a few awkward ways to get around Gredora, such as playing Deletors to at the very least nullify the damage theft ability, and you would also require them to re-ride in order to seal off a column. Moreover, unless there's some bizarre ruling I'm unaware, of, all of the new Messiah support allows that deck to call cards to the board even under Obtirandus and even to columns sealed by Gredora - Ideal Ego Messiah, Myga Messiah, and other similar grade 2 units (Photosphere is the name of the one in the link joker set, I believe, and I don't recall the name but there's one that allows you to place a card from your hand to the field as locked to draw a card in star gate) all bypass this call sealing due to wording, as they place a card on the field locked rather than calling a card, before locking it. Also, I feel that, if at all possible when facing down a likely Overwhelm turn (In other words, particularly when your opponent is going into their first stride), it's wise to have exactly two rested rear-guards on the field; this Megacolony deck plays 6-8 cards that can rest your units, but playing in this way requires that they actually have access to one of them at the time. When Overwhelm reads, "Counter-blast one, flip a card in the g-zone, draw two" then it's not quite so oppressive. At that point, it's a moderately improved Take-Mikazuchi and little more.
Shadowshyamin when they stride into obtirandus you will most likely have 3-4 turns of no calls. I play ahsha , and it also messes up my bloom but knowing he's in the gzone I rushed him and luckily filled my hand enough to guard the three turns of him striding it. Like solemn said it's about who plays their resources smarter.
Needed this.... But gredora is not the real issue now.... Victor is the oppressive force now. Insane OTK potential.... They destroy u on their first stride.... Especially if they go second.
Xavier Chrome how so? When Victor strides first their rgs mostly won't be locked and overlords mostly will have access to only denial and not defeat flare. However even denial becomes useless because of the new g1 unit which can give all rgs resist. So i think the support is great and perhaps a bit too much for Victor. I would love more support for kagero mainly Kouen as they crumble against resist.
Ben Paul Victor is good on first stride but mainly these days overlord and chaos by pass resist by removing all card from rgc to drop or lock from hand overlord and chaos on stride will lock from hand also bypass resist
We still need the skill from Zanki and if they Paralyze our vanguard, unless you have two grade 3s in your hand, you are toast. Plus the column thing will really hurt since Zanki asks you to Superior Call. And one more thing, COUNTER BLASTS. ALMOST EVERY NUBATAMA STRIDE, except Mukuro uses COUNTER BLASTS! Well not to hate but to remind. Good day mate.
Considering that the new Harri stride really likes its Magia units, I'm not sure Purple Trapezist still has room in the deck - some would argue it's been out of the deck for a while now too.
vinay vancheeswaran I didn't call a card to one of my front row RC although I still have a front row rg. I used Zoa and my opponent doesn't have any Pgs in his hand.
Because one of Gredora's skill prevents using column it really hurts BT that's strong point these days is being able to bounce own units and call them during attack hurting already under supported clan even more and making me hate that card even more. Also being able to take resources away is something that can really hurt decks that need those resources making Gredora nightmare to face and one card that's IMO too good for clan like Megacolony.
Never delayed my own upload so fast to watch a Solemn Vanguard video
what is your next video going to be about?
Lmao, thanks boo :*
My Worlds commentary experience haha
"How to beat Darkface"
Gredora: *pulls out a belt*
Please make How to Beat Deletors next, my lolcals are filled with them right now.
While I watch old videos Who do i catch in the comments? Keep up with with your good work
woot my favorite series is back!
Wow! Thanks for the tips man! This will help me a lot!!!!!!!
And for suggestions, how about you make a how to beat chaos breaker with its new support, and a profile/combo videos of Harri? I would love to see that :)
This helps a lot. Been trying to figure out how to beat Darkface/ Gredora for this years Premium regionals in toronto (2019)
Quality upload once again :D
And just in time (battling a megacolony player this evening) #SavedByTheOracle
I think you should cover Chaos next.
Also another useful way to stop Overwhelm is to keep a standing rear guard behind the VG. That should limit Overwhelm's Dark Device as long as they don't have a Rosenberg or Bolg Wasp.
How to beat thavas because I am having trouble with it
Do you have a video on how to beat delteters
New messiah doesn't shut down gredora but at least gives you a counter to have things placed locked which isn't a call so it gets around her
Can hold Paladin fill in the rear guards when I can’t?
Does dominate have any problem with this? Because our only big problem is the counter blast thing but we have Torasada and Tengai for that. If any thing else goes wrong, is Dominate a good counter because we don't care that much about our RGs?
Also love your videos keep it up!
can you do battle sister deck profile?
Can you make a video for deletor deck??
If my opponent uses Gredora's skill, may I use, for example, Gurguit to superior call?
So with overwhelm is assume it's better to let them have the crit and drive than letting them plus 2 or more, assuming that you can defend against overwhelm
Could you do one on chaos breaker also for deletors I really struggle agaisnt them and it would be greatly appreciated if you could
Staticsupersaiyan3 He would do one in the future I think but after the set is released for us Western players.
Seeing this comes out makes me think..hmmm...maybe it’s time for an update on how to beat ztb and Laurd...or so would love see that would really help out new player when there locals are feel with meta deck.almost forgot great job with the editing
another tip is that you can keep a unit behind the V to stop overwhelm's dark device ability. they could rest it with the starter but if there is no more starter, they have to force rest it with alicides or bolg wasp which they dont play much of.
Eugene Ho not really tho most play those units at 3 to 4 copys for that very reason of ur opponent trying to stop ur dark device but good strat whem u find them without those cards u are correct there
Nice Video :D and some decent tips :)
if you have no face up damage does gredora unflip an damage
A question about Gredora’s second ability.
Don’t they just fulfill it as much as possible anyway? What I mean is that, even if you flip over your own card, won’t they still countercharge?
Does gredora prevent superior calls?
Can you make, how to beat Chaos next post Star Gate
These video help people who need to get better with dark face as well, these are great
Cool :D
@Thatguyjamiee I agree, the videos should be called "how to play" and "how to beat".
Solemn Vanguard I’m really enjoying that your regularly uploading videos !! :)
Ben Abbas true these videos are great
Brillian Blister can shut down restanding Vanguards. Are there some Gredora users who run Blister in their decks in your meta?
How do you beat Chaos Breaker?
Please do how beat Overlord
How to beat blue asha please!!!
Which deck do u use sir?
Please could you do overlord
I play Gredora and you got how to beat it spot on.
Glad to hear! :)
Really love your channel. You and Different Fight are the only channels that I have clicked the bell for. You and DF make great content.
Thank you so much :D
do a how to bet overlord and chaos breaker
@Solemn Vanguard could you please do "how to beat Deletor Rush". Also, you should do some more gameplay on your channel I really enjoyed your video with Blasters and ZTB.
Thank you! Probably ;D
Another trick you forgot to mention about Overwhelms GB3, Its Dark Device on the vanguard, SO if you stand your starter or the unit behind your vanguard via effect or stand trigger or leave it standing she cant use her GB3 and all her units loose than 2k Boost cust Dark Device requires ALL units in the same columb as yours to be REST, key word "ALL" it was a fun little trick I learned while using stand triggers.
so lets say i get damage
and its a stand trigger
dark device is pointless?
As long as you stand a unit in the same columb as the unit that has that Dark Device yes.
That's why Gredora decks play Bolg Wasp, but yes this is a good idea. You don't even need to rely on stand triggers, just throw a unit behind your VG and let it sit there all game.
Can you do a "how to beat victor" please, another nice video btw :)
Hey solemn, as a Nubatama player, I have been struggling against Aqua force players and their g guards....
You see, each time I 'Mukuro' or Mujinlord, The resist-giving g guard appears... Which then makes the rear guards practically untouchable.
Please send help.
What I mean is... Please do a How to Beat Thavas or Valeos please.
Great video, but a how to beat chaos or deletor would be nice.
how to beat messiah plz
Yes thank you for this now i can beat thet 1 guy in my area that seems to just wreck with Gredora
Hope it helps :D
Can you make how to beat LJ? 3 of them if possible haha
Do a how to beat Thavas deck please. I've practiced enough against Overlord and CBD that my ZTB deck can somewhat handle it but Thavas is an issue for me sometimes. Cant Hetero those busted columns :'(
Daniel Victor It would be fun seeing solemn do a video for countering his favourite deck.
What if your using angel feathers against this deck ... What's a good counter against gredora ??
Etienne BOURDEAU I see now ... Now what if your using gavrial ... What does gavrial have that can help counter gredora??
hey solemn vanguard i am wondering how to beat an ichikishima deck he's running in a tsukuyomi deck one advantage miko nanase her skill to add power 1000 for ever hand is quite devastating and combine it with nazuna for that turn get power 2000 for every hand its null or die and my friend can get ichikishima on first stride that g guard bavarois can add up hand he stride with haruzuki get a hand the hand size its frightening combine it with nanase and nazuna combo it is goodbye, then if my nullifies has gone or not in hand he will stride with gb8 amaterasu and well good game, he uses this strategy every game drop nulls in ichiki turn and a game with gb8 i am currently has nubatama deck and overlord but without the purge(i will buy it in chinese new year for budget) and i am using ziegenburg as a finisher please reply, thank you
theo doric as a tsukuyomi player, if you can, rush the hell out of the early game. As much replenishment as ott has, the nastiest skills still require oracle, so guarding is not always affordable, and it keeps them from hitting the prepared stack. It also goes without saying, snipe nanase when you can, no problem for kagero. In fact, hitting rear guards in general forces use of resources that could otherwise be used for oracle abilities.
theo doric also, simply forcing them to make the first stride can make a huge difference. Tsukuyomi only works if they have the cost for aoul, and other likely first strides like ame no segume or maybe dragon destroyer deity are only good on hit.
How to beat Asha? 🤗
Can u do a how to beat deletors or overlord next please?
Probably ;)
Oh boy, playing Nightrose against Gredora sure is FUN !!!!!! Restanding Vanguard for nigthrose when ???
A really fun combo to play against obtiranus is on thier turn rain breath call sylvia which then called from top deck onto field. Also u can rain breath into alain to counter charge 2 to deny 4k damage.
Edit: musketeer deck
Abdul Tarabein you do know obtirandus says until the end of your opponents turn right? So not even during your opponents turn can you call cards.
It does work if you wait a turn. The skill only lasts until you end your turn, so when he strides Overwhelm you can already call units.
Can we see a "What does Nubatama need to be competitive?" video?
Could you still Superior call
Aoko 2000 Ideal Ego Messiah and Myga Messiah can somehow get around Gredora and Obtirandus.
How to beat chaos
With overlords taking 6/8 of the top 8, perhaps overlords needs to have a video of his own
Maxor369 i mean overlords have been a deck for so long.
mysticblaz e true but for must beginners who don't know the true fear of quint-drive
Maxor369 they have 5 drives now?when i last played zeigenburg just came out. i took a a few month break and nobody at my locals plays that deck.
He can go up to five, pop anything in a circle, deal a damage without triggering effects. He is best boi
Please make video about messiah
Andrew Averil i second this
I was told that gredora still can use the skill even if you don't have a damage for her to counter blast
Yes, she can CC for your opponent, but that's all. At least it doesn't actually affect you.
All of this seems like good advice. There are also a few awkward ways to get around Gredora, such as playing Deletors to at the very least nullify the damage theft ability, and you would also require them to re-ride in order to seal off a column. Moreover, unless there's some bizarre ruling I'm unaware, of, all of the new Messiah support allows that deck to call cards to the board even under Obtirandus and even to columns sealed by Gredora - Ideal Ego Messiah, Myga Messiah, and other similar grade 2 units (Photosphere is the name of the one in the link joker set, I believe, and I don't recall the name but there's one that allows you to place a card from your hand to the field as locked to draw a card in star gate) all bypass this call sealing due to wording, as they place a card on the field locked rather than calling a card, before locking it.
Also, I feel that, if at all possible when facing down a likely Overwhelm turn (In other words, particularly when your opponent is going into their first stride), it's wise to have exactly two rested rear-guards on the field; this Megacolony deck plays 6-8 cards that can rest your units, but playing in this way requires that they actually have access to one of them at the time. When Overwhelm reads, "Counter-blast one, flip a card in the g-zone, draw two" then it's not quite so oppressive. At that point, it's a moderately improved Take-Mikazuchi and little more.
please how to defeat nova grappler
NekoJustFlashed That video won't be needed until the extra booster.
NekoJustFlashed I just defeated Nova Victor deck using valeos
Do a how to beat overlord pls
Joseph Yeo i second this
You can't. According to Lord Solemn the meta is unbeatable.
How to beat Chaos Link Joker?
Atticus Rez u cant
I mean
NANI???
So magia is an auto loss against this??
Shadowshyamin when they stride into obtirandus you will most likely have 3-4 turns of no calls.
I play ahsha , and it also messes up my bloom but knowing he's in the gzone I rushed him and luckily filled my hand enough to guard the three turns of him striding it. Like solemn said it's about who plays their resources smarter.
Btw he most likely a 4 of in any megacolony gzone so be prepared for four straight turns of them striding it
Needed this.... But gredora is not the real issue now.... Victor is the oppressive force now. Insane OTK potential.... They destroy u on their first stride.... Especially if they go second.
Ben Paul victor will not match overlord or chaos nowadays even with the new support
Xavier Chrome how so? When Victor strides first their rgs mostly won't be locked and overlords mostly will have access to only denial and not defeat flare. However even denial becomes useless because of the new g1 unit which can give all rgs resist. So i think the support is great and perhaps a bit too much for Victor. I would love more support for kagero mainly Kouen as they crumble against resist.
Ben Paul Victor is good on first stride but mainly these days overlord and chaos by pass resist by removing all card from rgc to drop or lock from hand overlord and chaos on stride will lock from hand also bypass resist
CHAOS PLZ
messiah skills let me call units as locked cards so....
yo you forgot about that pesty grade 2 7k we have
its funny because nubatama fully negates this deck's usefulness
We still need the skill from Zanki and if they Paralyze our vanguard, unless you have two grade 3s in your hand, you are toast. Plus the column thing will really hurt since Zanki asks you to Superior Call. And one more thing, COUNTER BLASTS. ALMOST EVERY NUBATAMA STRIDE, except Mukuro uses COUNTER BLASTS! Well not to hate but to remind.
Good day mate.
On your next video can you please say "paging mr. Herman, mr.Herman you have a telephone call at the front desk"
Uhh... why?
Because your voice is beautiful 😂😂
wait eine minuten, what have i missed in my 3 month great. blasters win words in a control meta, dust, dust, dust , dust ,dust ,and dust.
isn't the easiest way to beat it is to wait until star gate or Gb14, and just overpower it with your sweet powercreep
LOL, that too
Just do every deck that's relevant tbh as a new player any is fine lol I'm hungry for knowledge
forgotten about Vulgar Blister
The new messiah support can also bypass gredora
fusion gamer Yup, Messiah is a really strong deck post the star gate booster since it can handle most clans well.
Welp good thing I got a messiah deck ready I still need to think of a way to beat gredora with cbd
Good advice thanks for the input
Considering that the new Harri stride really likes its Magia units, I'm not sure Purple Trapezist still has room in the deck - some would argue it's been out of the deck for a while now too.
Yup, if you don't run her, you can just enjoy playing with 1 column instead ;P
Or 0 cuz Magia sure loves Obtirandus ;D
How to beat chaos ??? They have the potential to literally lock a full field instantly..
I defeated Chaos with my Gredora deck. It's true lol.
Michael Tanujaya how man ??? XD
Play Ezel :)
vinay vancheeswaran I didn't call a card to one of my front row RC although I still have a front row rg. I used Zoa and my opponent doesn't have any Pgs in his hand.
Because one of Gredora's skill prevents using column it really hurts BT that's strong point these days is being able to bounce own units and call them during attack hurting already under supported clan even more and making me hate that card even more. Also being able to take resources away is something that can really hurt decks that need those resources making Gredora nightmare to face and one card that's IMO too good for clan like Megacolony.
I don’t need to nuke dark face I can lock it!
thanks you for letting us win then XD
She's still waifu doe.
I have to confess I have too much waifus.
first
Congrats!